First?!

nice shots.

First?! Double post, what's going on here?

This is only a test to see if my comments continue to disappear then reappear.

Very nicely done ladies.

These pics really highlight the human element of a campaign. If it really were just about "the issues" then none of this silliness would be necessary. The candidates would simply distribute soberly-written position papers to all prospective voters who would peruse them at their leisure in the privacy of their own homes. Perhaps with a nice cup of Earl Gray tea.

And maybe there is a legitimate argument for such an approach. But most people don't want it that way. They want to see the candidates in action. Get a sense of the cut of their jib. You know, kick a few tires and slam a few doors.

Is this fully rational? Certainly not. But it is very human. And, occasionally, entertainingly photogenic.

The pictures are good. Every one looks a little fraggle(is that a word?).

Ivansmom, tell Ivansdad, happy birthday and I hope there are many more.

Slyness, in small towns, sometimes the law is anything but the law. And lets not forget, it plays out according to the person being held to that scrutiny.

"Amanda Nooter." hee hee. That is so wrong.

frosti... are you there? I'm wondering if you think this looks worth getting. It's a little pricey, especially when you figure in the shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-LB-ALL-NATURAL-MINNESOTA-WILD-RICE-RAW-FOOD-LIVING_W0QQitemZ160194761181QQihZ006QQcategoryZ40963QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Just got back from another community board meeting on our decision to spray for gypsy moths this coming spring and the cost to do so. And as with any community,some want it and some don't. But as we are members of the board and make recomondations to our community to protect our trees. there are always those who want to make more of the situation. Makes me wish sometimes I wasn't on the board.

Sorry for the Rant, back to your regular programming.

Oh and GO SKINS!!!!!

Regarding all the debates about the importance of caucuses, state's number in the voting dates, etc., maybe we're going about this all wrong.

I think we should be running the pre-election like *America's Next Top Model.* You just drop one a week, you get to know the others better as time goes on. They go through challenges, and somebody is always asking how much improvement they're showing, where did they start from, what have they done. Not to mention, Tyra certainly is an innovative, warm and decisive manager.

A month or two ago either *The New Yorker* or *The Atlantic Monthly* had an article about Obama. I'll see if I can track it down. I remember it stating that he felt he didn't have enough experience to run, then had a discussion with another Senator who pointed out there may never be another chance.

Like everyone else, I draw my inferences from my own experience. In my field, no matter how much you want to do a job, sometimes you just don't have the education or experience and nobody is doing anybody any favors by pretending everyone's equal in their ability to do the job right now, or even potentially. You don't want a plumber, either, who may be close but not quite there. I also work with 2 people who could do any job in our department with half their brains tied behind their backs. It might take them a few weeks to ramp up, but they have the ability.

This is just a long-winded way of saying that while I understand we need a change, we also need competence and an ability to do the job. I don't think Obama's got the experience yet. Hillary's got it. Edwards has almost got it, but he's also the guy who is extremely life-competent, who can extrapolate and get it done. Which is why I just sent him some money.

Also did I mention the meeting was going to be 15 mins long and ended up being an hour long.

I missed an hour of the pregame hype!!!

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama

This is it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama

Apparently I'm not fully prepared myself. Got the message the comment wasn't posted, checked to see it wasn't, reposted and there they both were!

Ugh... I hate Chris Collingsworth. Such a whiner. Oh well...

Go Washington Football Franchise!!

mostly... we're counting on you to provide some extra Washington mojo there in Seattle!

dbG-it happened to me too.

TBG-I think that is a bit high when you consider it isn't fragile and doesn't need any special packaging. However, it is from our very own res and thus the finest you will find in all the US and Canada. The pictures show a very nice long grain and the right color. You could consider the premium price your contribution toward smiting the agri-business lobby. Or you could contact me on back channels and I'll hook you up.

Excellent photos, ladies, you are both doing a great job!

This yellow dog Democrat is going to watch and listen and make up her mind when necessary. I enjoy what everybody has to say.

Cassandra, you are certainly right about what goes on in small towns, and even large ones, when the cultural values aren't what they should be. But my guess is that even in NC that fire chief would have gone to prison if those allegations had been proven.

Those are great pictures. I think we know what Paris got for Christmas. My boss brought in her Nikon D80 with a 70-300mm f2.8 lens to work the other day. She's still learning how to use it, but it sure is huge.

I was glad I read Charles Peters's article on Obama's experience.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html

O boy. I got a pair of hi tech rabbit ears and I can get NBC, CBS, and PBS.
Now I can participate in the football guff.
I'm for the Seahawks. I like their hats.

Just wondering here... why the conversation on experience, when present folks make that conversation, what's the word I'm looking for... redundant? I feel a breeze, and it is in an unlikely place.

Just be honest, folks. Stop with the "experience" bit. You're bigger than that. As to prior experience, where do you get that for the Presidency? At some point one is winging it anyway, right?

Cassandra... no one here is using "experience" for a euphemism for anything else. It's true Obama has little experience at a national level. He hasn't even served one term as Senator.

But I don't think that means he wouldn't be a good president. I think he'd make a great president. Because I believe he's smart, inquisitive and intuitive. And would work for the good of the nation, not just the good of his rich cronies.

You're right.. look where "experience" has gotten us. That's why we pretty much think any of the top Democratic candidates would make a great president.

Jumper-thanks for the link. Obama's state legislature record reaffirms my position that if you want to see if someone can really personally make sure they can accomplish something on a smaller scale where he/she can't just print more money or shift the expenses of every decision to a new generation.

Well that made no sense at all.

If you want to see if someone can really personally make A DIFFERENCE make sure they can accomplish something on a smaller scale...

obama's lack of experience at the national level is a concern. if mccain were to pull off a nomination, it would stand out.

against romney or huckabee, the issue of legislative experience versus executive experience, which has historically favored executive (former governors), might be more of a factor. it's very easy to pick apart and criticize a legislative voting record.

that's the issue - not to be able to claim either strong national or previous executive experience against a republican who would have one or the other.

that said, i like obama the best of the democratic candidates.

from the Boston Globe (Hi Sneaks !)

CONCORD, N.H. - They were called Reagan Democrats and then "values voters." They were the police and firefighters President Bush credited with his 2004 reelection. And in this week's Iowa caucuses, they were the dominant constituency in the Republican Party.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/05/lower_earning_voters_reshaping_gop_base/

This relates to Joel's piece on 2008/1968 because it was the Johnson/McCarthy/Bobby Kennedy debacle that drove all the 'Joe Six Packs' out of the Democratic party IMO.

Hello boss and boodlers. DSLmodem died and am waiting for new one toot sweet from the nerd detail. Boodling from Sbucks on my XO laptop. Small fingers are a advantage, but I need to buy extra strong peepers to see the keyboard and screen.

Off to read scores of emailand then pick up CPBoy....this XO thingie might be a social-justice crackberry....peeps keep asking me about this as I type....lots of smiles and my coll quotient is very high. I'll try to push A-bloginthis sunny moment.

cool quotient, really.

Hi Maggie...been thinking of dear Phi.

CP, So have I, so have I.

Yesterday I got a condolence letter from two of the vets who knew Phinn best. To quote a bit,

"He was a wonderful dog and will be deeply missed. Take comfort in the wonderful life you gave him in the strength you had to let him go. We hope the memories of him help to ease your pain during this difficult time."

It made me cry.

Cassandra, sorry to worry you. I never, ever voted for the shrub, and I feel his lack of experience has helped get us where we are today, in sad shape. It's why I see it as an important factor now.

Honestly, most people have a favorite candidate, chosen from their heart, minds or experience. Where do you get enough experience to be President? From doing the long, hard work at lower levels. I see a difference between winging it and winging it on the basis of what you already know how to do.

The discussion about whether Obama or any other candidate has enough experience seems to me to be based on the assumption that the president personally does just about everything that happens in government. That ain't true, although presidents try to foster that image -- so many announcements come from the podium with "The White House" on it and also on the background, announcements that in most cases could just as effectively be made by the secretary of agriculture or whoever is responsible for that aspect of policy. When I was a kid during the Eisenhower administration, there would be items on the news saying that the department of such-and-such announced some new policy; now those usually say the white house announced it. The media is (are?) complicit in this.

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Off-topic, of course.

Frostdottir and her compadres who place high value on saving the manatees, singing Christmas carols at nursing homes, tutoring younger children and all manner of personal volunteerism see more value in Obama's experience as a community organizer than any of the other candidates' government experience.

Have one eye on the debate-Ron Paul is looking like less of a crackpot when he goes after Romney and his "world wide jihadism" catch phrase.

LTL: //The discussion about whether Obama or any other candidate has enough experience seems to me to be based on the assumption that the president personally does just about everything that happens in government.//

No, I don't think of the president as America's political Martha Stewart. :-)

What Mudge said.

What RD said.

I'm saying it again. In italics.

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You know... it's nice to see candidates from both parties who don't just appear to be puppets like GWB and Reagan were. I always felt like they were just being propped up by a group of men who really ran the show. It's almost like you could see them back there.. "Sit here." "Say this." "Shake that woman's hand." "Order grits with your breakfast."

Remember that funny bit on SNL during the Reagan years that comically portrayed Reagan as the guy who was really in charge? It was actually FUNNY to think of him in charge. (When you think about it, it wasn't funny at all.)

Why did America vote for another guy who was clearly like that? Why could only half of America see it? That's what I really want to know. I'm still pondering this, seven years later.

Maybe we just need a decent president again for me to get over it.

I meant to warn Scotty... the last time we bought a new TV to watch the Redskins in the playoffs, the outcome was pretty much the same. And that was nearly 20 years ago.

Hi Maggie, that letter from your vet was very sweet. Good article you linked to also. I have been running around all day, hair appointment, errands, chores so just catching up with everything. Joel, love the pictures. How very fortunate your two photographers are to be on this trip with you. Love the commentary from Manchester. As I've mentioned here before, we get all the political TV ads for NH here as a lot of the lower part of the state gets our Boston stations. We have overused our mute button.

I'm really torn on this 'experience' thing. Governors have made it to the White House almost exclusively in the past 30 years. I don't see how being a governor (which is not a terribly hard job in my opinion) prepares you to be president. The lack of a legislative record that people can attack is what makes governors more appealing. Obama mentioned something in his book, 'The Audacity of Hope' regarding the difficulty of voting on some bills, the damned if you do, damned it you don't scenario. When you have two choices and you like some of one and some of the other but neither one is truly right, what do you choose? And how do you explain it in a ten second sound bite?

I like Richardson's experience, I like Edward's passion, I like Obama's deep thinking. At least on the Democratic side, we have some good choices, glad I'm not a Republican.

Sorry about the Redskins you guys, I was rooting for them.

I'm with you, Mudge. *sob* *sniff* At least it wasn't a shutout. We have salvaged some pride, perhaps. But, geeeeezzzzzzzz man!

A thousand apologies.

I was in sock class for most of the game.

Oh, was there a football game on? I thought it was all over till Superbowl MMVIII.

sock class?

"sock class?"

I think it's a kind of Navy ship.

mostlylurking is taking boxing lessons?!?!?

Hmmmm, maybe this has something to do with knitting instead.

Sorry about the team loss, guys. I'd say it was a pretty good season, overall. Better than the local franchise here, by a long shot.

Sorry, Mudge, RD, TBG, et al (that's a lawyer term). I was in the room for the last quarter and thought of you.

We had Ivansdad's ceremonial dinner and cake tonight, a day late, but had to bow to the football gods. Fortunately he has no strong preferences for any of tonight's teams. Me, I find football highly amusing but I do like to watch them run run run down the field evading all those other guys. This has been a good night for me.

Well, at least I know my family in Washington State is happy with the outcome. I take solace in that. Of course, I don't have to live in the same house with them.

Great Kit photos. While I've never been one of the crowd who'd vote for the candidate I'd rather have a beer with, I do like to see that human side. One advantage of the ridiculously grueling campaign season is being able to see how candidates hold up under extreme stress and fatigue. That is when our natural tendencies (idiocy, anger, kindness, cluelessness) are exacerbated. While they're not comparable, at least we might extrapolate from campaign stress to guess how otherwise untried candidates might react to, say, a terrorist attack (My Pet Goat, anyone?).

Ivansmom - you used exacerbate and extrapolate in the same paragraph. And you did so correctly. You are a goddess.

Ha ha - yes, I was learning how to knit socks. I've tried learning from books, but it's just too technical and daunting. Had a fun day - bought more yarn and needles. If my gauge turns out to be wrong, some lucky boodler might be a surprise sock recipient!

I'm truly sorry about the football thing. Now I have to listen to more hype.

No, sadly enough the Skins made the playoffs by a wild card slot.

Which in itself is a miracle that couldn't possibly last against any decent team.

Gibbs' head is going to be on a pole rather soon, I would say.

Mudge Sorry about your Redskins. I got to see the last minute of the game.

We finally got power back after a lovely Pacifc Storm that according to offical records left 2.14 inches of rain in my town. According to previously empty flower pots left 6 inches in my back yard from Thursday 2 pm until noon today.

Nine lovely Pacific Gas and Electric Trucks showed up on my street in the back of a canyon and in the coarse of 2 hours got our power lines re-strung. All the neighbors lined the streets to watch the high wire act...

To catch up on the events of the past 2 days - you all were my first choice.

Wow, a Paris that is competent - the photos were wonderful ....

Why, thank you, RD. Fulsome praise is always welcome. "Exacerbate" and "extrapolate" are two of our favorite words here in IvanWorld. They also work well as New Year slogans, e.g.: Exacerbate in 2008! This is more likely, I fear, than "Extrapolate in 2008!", which requires a level of concentration and analysis unlikely in a Presidential campaign year. My favorite, but one I've had trouble selling to my colleagues: Defenestrate in 2008!

You forgot Excruciate in 2008!

...probably any of the "Pro-torture" Republican candidates' slogans.

Wilbrod... I don't think we'll see Gibbs' head on a pole anytime soon. He's back to God status in this city. He took his beaten-down team from the depths of despair all the way to the playoffs in five weeks.

This is today's dead-tree front page story...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010404205.html

I don't think anyone's opinion of him has changed this evening. I think whether he stays or goes will be his choice alone. I personally hope he stays. There's always something special about a Joe Gibbs team.

Speaking of torture...

bc and Scottynuke think Al Michaels will be catching a bit of flak for saying some Steelers would rather have been waterboarded than watch the game tape of their regular-season loss to Jacksonville on a continuous loop in the Pittsburgh training complex.

Not that watching the tape has helped the Steelers that much anyway. :-)

But Mike Tomlin DEFININTELY has impactful headset hair.

And yes, we both cursed in high-def as the 'Skins crumbled like Joe Biden's bid for the Dem nomination.

And yes, we were holding each other, weeping, as the game ended, singing "Hail to the Redskins."

Ivansmom, who would you defenestrate? Surely not Ivansdad or the Boy. Republican candidates for president?

The headline writer is certainly in tune with football hyperbole.

I almost dreaded reading the article, expecting to read "clash of titans" and "agony of defeat" and "the many roads a man must walk", maybe "take his broken wings and learn to fly" in there somewhere, but Mike Wise stayed sober and straightforward, much to my relief.

Memo to Joel: don't let anybody else write your kit headlines. Just don't.

bcNuke? Nukebc? What manner of strange changeling beast is this? Not the beast with two backs (not that in the present case there's anything wrong with that) surely. [Don't call me Shirley.] Hath this creature the haunches of a minotaur and the head of a NASCAR driver? The head and ears of a fuzzy lagomorph and the body of a PAO? Part dragon and part Yoda? For certain, I warrant this creature hath some wonderous properties.

Slyness, I certainly wouldn't defenestrate close family members. However, some days provide a remarkable lineup of other possibilities. A piece of art in my office has a figure saying something like, "I like people until they give me reason not to. Some days they just drop like flies." It is a Brian Andreas work -- fun stuff. Tonight I think I'll say Hibernate in 2008. Vaya con queso. Fondue.

dbG,
That Obama story may have been New Yorker, some while ago. Obama certainly considered waiting for another election cycle.

France was a jungle and used to be wedged between Africa and South America?

Interesting, most models show France as having been attached to Newfoundland, but an earlier model shows that San francisco was next to Amazonia which Baltica (proto-Europe) would have been attached southeast of.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080104/sc_livescience/franceusedtobeajungle

I look forward to the "Tectonic Plate Jigsaw" game. It should be a bestseller among jigsaw puzzle fiends.

Iguana comment on this one too:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/04/cold-snap-causes-iguanas-drop-trees/?news-breaking

DbG, yes! Some are smart and can learn fast. But even they can fail on some skills. The best thing is to know what your weak points are.

Today I met my Waterloo when it comes to being handy.

http://wilbrodog.blogspot.com/2008/01/hope-yall-are-full-and-happy-from.html

It turns out real live dogs can't cook as well as cartoon rats, I guess.

As it turns out, Nukebc/bcNuke is a two-headed monster with one head of an HDTV and the other a pot of venison chili, Mudge. [and please - the *other* head is a Formula One pilote con considerable brio (wish I had italics here), not no daggone NASCAR taxicab driver]

Joel, Paris, and Amanda - the new Kit and pics are wonderful.

Please keep up the good work, all of you...

bc

Morning, friends. I've had the nap, and now I'm up, and it's still night. I can't get right.

Girls, those pictures are really good. And the kits today just keep coming. Good work, JA.

As for "experience", there really isn't any for President of the United States, just a bunch of other stuff we use to say such and such a one can do a really good job. And I don't believe it's very difficult to see why we have what we have. Denial is not an island. There are a lot of factors that play out in the race. And as much as many of you hate to hear this, race is one of them. It looks like me, and if it looks like me, it will act like me. And that may be so "no" the case. Listen, and I did not make this a fact, had nothing to do with it. Everything in this country is impacted by race. It even follows us to the grave.

My mind isn't made up yet. It is going to be, has the makings of an interesting race.

It has warmed up some here. Not really hot, but better than the last two days. Will try to attend church this morning. I do hope they've warmed up the place a bit. We were sitting in there yesterday with gloves and coats on.

I wonder how much religion will be a factor in the race?

Morning, Mudge(sorry about the game), Slyness, Scotty, and all.*waving*

Slyness, what happened to our team this year?

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Just want to tell you a little story(true)before I leave.

Yesterday I took the g-girl to the park. She loves the park. When we got there, three children and their mom are there. The g-girl runs to the swing and enjoys that for a brief two minutes. She sees the kids at the other playstation so she runs over there. She wants to play with the kids. She tries to help the little one, but her big sister is there. I tell the g-girl let her do it. The g-girl follows these kids all around the playground and wherever they go, when the g-girl arrives, they move to another place. Finally, I tell the g-girl, if they don't want to play, just play by yourself. I told her you can't make them play with you. This is the saddest conversation I can have because this is a four year-old with no guile, just wants to play. We hang around for a little while, and I say, lets get ice cream. The highlight of the day.

Now why is this important. These kids at the park were white. Their mom seem friendly enough, but they just did not want to play with the g-girl, and it was obvious to me. I don't know why, and will not try to say why, but it prompted me to have a conversation with the g-girl, a conversation that I really did not want to have. How do you explain to a four-year old some people will not like you simply because of who you are? You don't, not yet. You change to something else.

Open your eyes, folks. It is not a perfect world yet. We still have a long way to go. What was suppose to be a fun event, for me, it was an occasion for tears. Happily, the g-girl moved on to ice cream. Tears, sadness, joy, gladness, all wrapped up in one.

dr, your orchid sounds like the one I have on my porch. It's got a new bud. I hope it won't dry up like it did last month. I was all excited and 2 days later it just withered. I don't think it's because I gave it too much water. I water it every one or two days and I sprinkle water on its leaves everyday unless it rains everyday for a week. It's got very nice leaves and air-roots. I am still waiting for the flower.

Cassandra, I agree. It will be an interesting race, exactly because so many issues will be worked out at a different level.

Not for the first time-- I know Jesse Jackson's run for president before, but he never got far.
He spoke at a high-school assembly when I was young (still in elementary school but we were attending because it was JESSE JACKSON), around 1983, perhaps.

The interpreters had difficulty keeping up with his rapid pace of speech and his rhyming and perhaps a lack of clarity.

He was giving an anti-drug speech and said something about being hooked on painkillers after a surgery, which is when he started rhyming and getting nearly nonsensical in translation (I backtranslated in English in my head and noticed the rhymes too).

I left wondering how Jesse Jackson kicked his painkiller addiction and why would he confess this to young children, and whether the interpreting had been right after all. It seemed surreal all around.

This is one case where cultural diferences can hurt a minority candidate considerably. You say his speechmaking is wonderful. I'm sure he must be, he was a preacher.

I think at that point Jesse Jackson had not learned how to speak to EVERYBODY regardless of race yet, and to know how his rhyming and other speech quirks would be taken by people who had never heard him deliver a speech before.

The other possibility is that Jesse Jackson assumed that this DC high school was predominantly black and would respond well to rhyming, even if they were deaf.

In fact, because we were deaf, we kind of felt like he wasn't thinking about who he was talking to at all, when he started talking for the rhyme instead of clarity and sense. And I think that's what bothered the most. Ah well, that was so long ago, it was around 23 years ago.

About the same time too, we had a woman vice-presidental candidate-- Geraldine Ferraro. I remember that. There won't be many "firsts" in this electional process, but hopefully they will be more important firsts.

Cassandra, I'm sorry. That doesn't happen in all places, you will be happy to know. You did good not to say it was racism, because then she will hear it on TV too much and get confused about what it means.

She will learn on her own eventually that some people are just snooty and prejudiced, or easily scared by new faces. Then you can have the racism talk eventually because she has experience to base it on.

I am deaf and I have had the same reactions all my life from people who do not want to be bothered with disabled people.

I never learned there was a word for it until a few years ago, and honestly I do not care. I know what I see, and I don't need -isms for it. I know some people will warm up with time, others never will.

I remember Wilbrodog once approached an black lab offleash that was avoiding him, the dog clearly was not friendly, but he was trying so hard to make friends, I finally told him to get away from that dog.

He did not listen and tried to stick his head in the dog's face (rude I know), and that lab snapped at him. He looked so grieved, like he'd cry. I had never seen him react this way to snaps from other dogs.
Maybe it was because he tried so hard to be friends, followed after that dog, trying to invite play.

That dog later chased him off with savage growls when we happened on the communal play area. But Wilbrodog figured out a solution the third time we saw that dog and kind of "won" that round without getting in a fight at all.

Wilbrod, thank you.

I have always felt that in the question of race, the offended party and the offending party both suffer. The offending party suffering is not as sharp as the offended party, but there is an impact. It does not allow our shared humanity to dwell, to roam, to discover. It makes us like beast, not humans. And the nation on a whole suffers because look at all the productivity we lose. We seem to think we must sacrifice victims to this hate. Just think of the people we don't get, the art we miss, the change for the future we so reject. And we foster this hate and rejection on our offspring. We teach them this is what we have to do. We lie. They, too, must keep up the fight. That unspoken factor that we so quietly step around. That elephant in the room. And the most damaging effect, although already as far as one can get, we distance ourselves away from our Creator.

Help me, and help us all, oh Lord, to be mindful of you.

Actually, TBG, I got the HDTV to watch ANOTHER team... *wink wink* Seriously, it was time to surrender to the march of technology. A great post-Xmas deal sure didn't hurt, either.

None of that made last night any less painful, however. *SIGH* I'm not particularly enamoured of Mr. S. Moss today, I tellya...

David Garrard, however, is a different story. Talk about carrying a team on your back!

And venison chili is REALLY good, BTW.

Cassandra, you're doing good work with the g-girl. She'll run into "you're not one of us" groups no matter where she goes, and you're giving her the skills to deal with them no matter what kind of group they might be. *HUGS*

*ready-for-another-6-hour-football-marathon Grover waves*

:-)

Cassandra, please don't forget the possibility that some children just are not as good as others at including children they are not familiar with. I have watched with my own kids who are very outgoing, there have been other children who simply do not wish to allow my girls to join in.

Morning boodle! Woke up to a very rare occurrence; thought it was Monday and realized only after rising to feed the Frostcats that it is Sunday. Yessss.

Thank you Mostly for posting your comment about the Charlie Rose show. I saw Friday's show last night and it was worth staying awake for the full hour to see the grad student who is making the Obama documentary. She's right, if he goes no farther he's still made history. Didn't David Brooks sound like an Obama fan?

For those who don't already have a rooting interest in the Tampa-NY game today I've been asked to suggest Tampa. At least I think that's what all the squealing and jumping up and down was about. Frostdottir will not be at the game in Tampa, one of the few Buc's home games she has missed this year. She is usually on the pirate ship tossing beads but foolishly planned a weekend in Georgia before the playoff schedule was firm. Just 4:33 to game time.

Morning All
S'Nuke, I'm a great fan of Stirling Moss and I can't imagine why you're displeased with him.

My favourite practitioner of the "Call and Response" speaking style is Chris Rock.

Will do, Frosti! Go Bucs!

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Cassandra, I'm sorry about your grand-daughter. But it may not be so much about race. Growing up, my dad was a fed employee and we moved a lot. Mostly to small towns, where if you "weren't from around here," they circled the wagons. Whatever friends I did make "weren't from around here" either. It seems to be a natural reflex in the South.

Aww, Scottynuke, you're making me blush with that favorable comment about my venison chili, buddy (yeah, I thought it was good too). That and the fact that we watched on HD slighly reduced the sting of the Washington NFL Franchise's loss yesterday evening.

Cassandra, I believe our fear of The Other is a fact of animal nature, human and otherwise. As intelligent beings, we try to overcome our animal natures, but it's difficult and slow to move, to evolve beyond them.

Still, we can see signs of that movment in the Iowa Dem primary resutls, don't we?

I'm sorry about the g-girl's experience, but I suspect that if she'd been able to play near those other girls for awhile, they'd have started interacting and playing together. But fear is a tough thing to move beyond, whether you're four or 44 or more.

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