Wait, let's back up, CVH is being critical on Iraq? Well who the hell is surprised here?

Remember, CVH did meet with the lady who was later prosecuted for spying on behalf of Iraq!!

I think people need to look at Daniel Zubari. He's a very centered Republican running for US Congress and is the sole challenger against CVH. His website is http://www.ChooseDan.com

I am a sensible Democrat and all that CVH has
done for the past 4 years is complain, whine, and spout political crap. I saw Zubari's website and it looks like he actually cares about the area. I wish that CVH did. I voted for him twice. I wont again

I'd be interested to find out more about Vollmer. Although I think CVH has done a good job on the whole, new faces aren't a bad thing.

Looking at Daniel Zubari's website, he looks like a pretty sensible candidate. My only issue with voting Republican is that in the end, you aren't voting for the candidate, you're voting for the party. I'd be afraid like all other Republican representatives, he would fall in lock-step with his party as they all have done. Heaven forbid a Republican disagree with party leadership or they're stripped of all benefits. I'm sorry, until that party undergoes some major changes I don't think I could give my vote in good conscious.

Dan Zubairi: Pro-Bush, Pro-War Republican Gadfly Candidate.

'Nuff Said.

I know Dan Zubairi from a time when he used to call himself by a different name: "Farhan". It certaiuly wasn't Dan.

Wierd that he changed it. What gives??
Seems pretty shady to me.... like he is trying to hide something.

The one thing he can't hide is that he is a far right-wing Republican.

"Heaven forbid a Republican disagree with party leadership or they're stripped of all benefits. I'm sorry, until that party undergoes some major changes I don't think I could give my vote in good conscious. "

And Democrats don't punish those who deviate from the lefist line? Move out of your glass house if you insist on throwing stones. The Republican organizers of the February House petition drive to bring a gay marriage referendum to the floor had to pledge that the identity of the signatories be kept confidential, such was the trepidation of at least one of the handful of moderate Democrats who signed it thay they would face retribution from the Democrat leadership. I recall that one of them, Joan Cadden, was denied new office space as punishment for her signature.

I'm still unconvinced. The Republicans work like a well oiled machine where dissent within the ranks is squashed. Did you see how quickly two Republican members of the ethics committee were removed when they dare side against Tom DeLay? Republicans don't always vote together because they all agree. The "big tent" party is made up of many differnt groups with different opinions, some which are in direct conflict. It's a moot point, come Novemeber the trash will be taken to the curb.

I'm not against Van Hollen but what has he done with his time in Congress?

Even as a very liberal democrat, I've never been one to simply vote the party line.

But the way things have gone over the past several years in this country, Van Hollen can count on my vote for two reasons:

1) Someone challenging him from the extreme left is like the Republicans putting up a far-right wingnut for the general election for the 8th district against him - neither stange a good chance of winning the general election. Say what anyone will about Maryland, it's simply not the liberal bastion some of us wish it were; and,

2) I see it as absolutely imperative that the Democrats take control of one of the chambers of Congress, and voting for a Republican - no matter how moderate and sensible he may be - will not achieve this goal if there is to be a return to real congressional oversight of an Administration running roughshod over the other branches of the government.

Dan Z is a right-wing Republican? Oh what a dumb line. Sounds like someone has a bone to pick with Dan.

He ran for state delegate on local issues, not on 'far right wing' Bush stuff.

I love the haters on these forums though. Same tired lines, "right-wing, rovian, bigot," blah blah blah. How about you guys get off your rears and do something productive for once? I'm serious--let's have a bipartisan volunteer event.

Bryan, please state what "Dan" Zubairi's position on the war is.

Congressman is FEDERAL position. So his position on NATIONAL issues such as the war is very relevant.

Your silence, and "Dan" Zubairi's silence about this issue is correctly recognized as being pro-war. Otherwise let him deny it on his website.

I live in the MD 8th, and Van Hollen is safe.

Vollmer is simply a left-wing gadfly candidate who has run several times to make points and will get some protest votes, but not enough to be competitive. As for Zubairi, all I can say is that if voters here didn't re-elect Connie Morella--a popular liberal Republican--then what reason is there to think they'd elect a conservative newcomer?

Van Hollen has actually been working hard and tending to voters' interests on education, federal employee issues, and bringing home federal money, among other things. Even when he's not on the winning side he votes his district's wishes. He'd probably have more accomplishments if the Repugs ever let the other side get its agenda to the floor instead of monkeying with the rules to prevent that.

RE: Chris Van Hollon:
Deborah Vollmer must be some kinda nut. Chris votes AGAINST to the war but he would be putting our troops in danger if didn't vote to support them financially once they were there.

Vollmer is just the kind of leftist that we Democrats don't need in Montgomery County or anywhere in Maryland. Too bad she didn't stay on the left coast. I am no admirer of CVH but anyone to the left of CVH will give the seat to the Republicans. That is a fact...when will certain loud and ranting lefties, Vietnam ear throwbacks, in the Montgomery County Democratic Party wake up, look at the calendar and see it 2006!

For what it's worth, at last Saturday's Green Democrats/Democracy for America Forum, Vollmer was there, but I don't believe anyone from the Van Hollen Campaign was there.

From where I stand as a leftist, I think that it's silly to be tearing her down on this blog; just what's the point? To make her feel bad for not having shlepped with the power brokers and monied interests for a measly $10K contribution? C'mon! She arguably has more honor than Van Hollen does. She isn't delusional, she just wants to present a choice for people who are as upset as she is. Anyone who is upset with her for doing this must be narrow-minded and crass.

Just my opinion.

Give me a break. Chris Van Hollen is one of the hardest working and most thoughtful members of Congress -- in either party. He puts together more substantive bills on a wider range of issues than several committee chairs and ranking members.

I voted for Shriver in '02 and have never looked back. We are lucky to have a guy of this caliber representing us. I have to believe that most posters here represent the irrational fringe of both parties. With so few local forums for citizen debate, that's unfortunate.

I'm hoping Dan Zubairi supports our troops. I can't figure out why you hate him so much and can't even sign your name to your posts.

Bryan... running scared, eh?
Dodging the question?

What is his position on the war? And why is there no public record of it on his website or elsewhere? This is the simplest of questions. Its embarassing for "Dan" and his surrogrates that this question is being so assiduosly avoided.

I support our troops too. But I oppose the war. Simple.

Now will you and Farhan..er.. "Dan" continue to avoid the substance of these questions and take issue with the messenger instead?

Wow... if this is the kind of candidate "Dan" is (if that is his REAL name?!), I would hate to think what kind of spineless Congressman he would make.

While CVH may be pretty good on most measures by which we would judge him, DAV (Deborah A. Vollmer) takes the positions I take on the war (set a date, bring 'em home now) and on healthcare (the system is beyond broken) needing more than the effete reforms that only put off real improvements that would address the crises. Every other major industrial country on the planet has a state-operated universal healthcare plan of some sort; we should, too. DAV favors a single-payer type, so do I. It would work here because it does elsewhere. It would save our country money, because it does elsewhere.

"Every other major industrial country on the planet has a state-operated universal healthcare plan of some sort; we should, too. DAV favors a single-payer type, so do I. It would work here because it does elsewhere. It would save our country money, because it does elsewhere."

I think I see how socialist healthcare might save money. By the time paitents have waited the months and months it takes to get to the front of the line for simple but life-saving surgery, they're dead. How could that not save money?

I imagine residents of the world's other major industrial countries would lobby rather hard against us socializing medicine. Where would they fly to when they need immediate life-saving care their governments can't provide?

So Brandon, what is your suggestion? Leave things in the privatized mess they are now? We need a socialized healthcare system to serve the masses, not just those that can afford it. I think there is a place for privatization in the healthcare system in the form of elective surgery and other cosmetic procedures, which may I add there is a huge market for. Patients won't have to wait forever if physicians are fairly compensated within the system. Doing everything on the cheap (classic Republican style may I add) does not make for good government. If we do things right, it could be a major success.

Zubairi a Bush hack?

"We must enact legislation to deal with the Global Climate Change issues which have been impacting our environment for years. By enacting simple life adjustments, we can provide significant benefits to our environment"

Doesnt sound like bush hack to me. Sounds like someone who cares about the environment and not about stupid politics.
And even if he is a bush hack and he wants to put in stuff to help us out why is that bad?

I supported Howard Dean in 2004 and Im supporting Zubairi.

sincerly,
sean

Im sorry to see that you have launched a personal jihad against mr Daniel 'Farhan' Zubairi. Its Osama Bin Laden sympathizers like yourself that drive violence against America and those who stand for building unity among all people. You simply wish to divide America with your pro-terror and cowardly positions

I think none of the candidates mentioned are right for the job. I suggest Jeff Stein (www.jeffsteinforcongress.com). What we need is a return to Constitutional principles which made this country great. After communicating directly with Dan Zubairi, I have come to the conclusion that Dan is not of the same mold as the Founding Fathers. We talk about issues, forgetting history, this is harmful. We need candidates like Jeff Stein who remember history, and learn from it. The truth is many politicians seem to base their current ideas on nothing but the latest new fads, and this is obviously not good.

What issues does Jeff Stein care about? From looking at his website he has nothing at all, but he does have quotes of history. Does he want us to go back to living in 1800's? Daniel Zubairi clearly lays out how he wants to help his district

Of course Zubairi is not from the same mold as the guys who made this country way back then. His parents are immigrants. How can he be. That is some really racial stuff on part of SmarterGaithersburg. SAME MOLD??? You are going to make it a race thing now? Thats really pathetic. This is why im voting for Van Hollen. Screw you all!

K. So now we got Van Useless, Zubairi, and Stein. One is worthless, the other is better, and the third is the UFO guy who always runs.

Maybe we should all just stay home

What this all about immigration to. I look at the websites and nobody wanna talk about it. I fight to come to here and you do not wanna be with all of this.

I met Dan Zubari. He is very Republican. Some may like that, some may not. I would not call him centrist.

I'm not running scared, I'm just not answering something irrelevant. Sure he supports our troops--I answered that a ways back. Your choice not to read and post anonymously is not my fault. Introspection before criticism my friend.

CVH has done nothing for Montgomery County that I can tell except tell me why im not liberal enough for him. Whatever, he won't get my vote.

This other guy running againt Dan Zubairi on the GOP side (is he even running or just putting his name on the ballot). You say he remembers history like he was there. That's rich. What is he, all of 26 years old.

Let me tell you something I remember. I remember my grand father telling stories about his daddy having crosses burned in his yard. I remember my granpa telling me about burning churches and firebombs in houses. Is this what remembering history is about. What about SLAVERY. Im a BLACK AMERICAN. Our founding fathers say AFRO AMERICAN? IM BLACK. AND IM AMERICAN. you found fathers fanatics say this because you dont was us to be ALL AMERICAN. Tell me MR STEIN, would you have been a slave runner? Since you want to bring america back to that time!!!!

Wow! That is all that comes to mind after reading the last post. I just realized that is the issue behind the Stein campaign. Preserve America, Return to Slavery,etc. Im a Catholic, and I know for sure the Klan did not like us.

Regarding our founding fathers and racism.

Are we remembering (or do we even know) that the Constitution of the United Stated was adopted on the absolute condition of abolishing the slave trade. (Not slavery itself, yet!, but with ending the terrible practice of transporting human beings like animals.) From there came a strong conservative north that eventually overwhelmed the slave holding south. On the basis of liberty and justice for all, the United States has [almost] abolished slavery world-wide.

To put this in simpler terms. The constitution states that "separate but equal" is a fair practice. The supreme court ruled that racial segregation is unconstitutional because the practice of separate did not result in "equal" - which was the goal!!!

One should be proud to be black. One should be proud to be white. One should be proud to be whatever it is that your heritage brings to humanity. We are different, but equal. Love yourself, be an upstanding citizen, and know that if you believe in freedom, liberty, and prosperity, you have a place in the United States of America.

God Bless

Regarding the heavy-handed race, baiting remarks (see above and by the way, we spell American with a capitol A, it's a proper place name, and it shows respect for our nation)
Must we really sink to this level? Jeff Stein is, I'm fairly certain, a Jewish -American. Like the African-Americans, the Jews have suffered terribly simply for being what they are and refusing to be anything else. Why don't we try to keep the level of discourse on this thing, up to a decent standard and agree not to resort to this type of hate-bait again?

Yes, I agree that calling Farhan Zubairi what he is ...a right wing Republican...is both fair and accurate. On his website, he boasts about being an Ehrlich appointee. I can live with the guy being a right wing loon....what trouble's me, is his whacko view on the issues "Public transportation is Ineffective" (No need for a capitol I, by the way) Farhan Zubairi writes.
No it isn't. Public transportation is an extremely effective, popular, and cost efficient mode of transportation. This is especially true in the Washington area. Our Metro system
is envy of the United States, it's clean, relatively inexpensive to use and it works.
I'm not surprised that Farhan Zubairi doesn't know this. Born in Potomac with a silver spoon in his mouth, I somehow suspect he's never actually ridden on the Metro.

the metro being the envy of the us. with its 4 dollar a day parking and 6 dollar a day round trip. 10 dollars is cheap and effective?

What are you smoking bobby?

I find it quite interesting the comments regarding the institution of slavery that you claim Jeff Stein is for. I have met him in person, and I know that he would never advocate anything like that. As someone noted above, the Constitution was compromise which eventually brought a gradual end to slavery. To say that Jeff would want a return to these sorts of things is ridiculous. In addition, considering his own family's heritage, I don't think he would be interested in helping in the persecution or harm of anyone, especially based on their origin or heritage. Rather, Jeff takes what was good in the founders, and suggests we remain true to what has produced the most free nation in the world. As soon as we leave the founding principles (that there is a creator from whom our inalienable rights come from, and that the purpose of government is to secure and protect these rights), we open ourselves to new and greater tyranny than the American Colonies ever faced.

Lastly, let me answer the guy who said that he met Zubairi and that Zubairi is right-wing. Zubairi is pseudoconservative. He does not advocate anything that is truly conservative. I have communicated with Zubairi myself (as I think I mentioned previously), and know that Zubairi is anything but conservative. You just have to ask the right questions, and you'll uncover the truth. Might that answer why he is running on local issues for a Federal office? Where in the Constitution is that suggested?

"Dan Zubairi is a Bush Hack" seems to have some sort of personal vendetta against Dan because he changed his first name in high school (keeping his original name as his middle name). I knew him in high school...he changed his name to assimilate better. Big deal. Plenty of people, from Cary Grant to Rodney Dangerfield, have done that. What has he done to you? You can disagree with his politics (I certainly do) but he seems like an otherwise decent person who has done nothing to warrant these ridiculous personal attacks.

Hey SmarterGaithersburg, where in the Constitution is anything about how to run a campaign mentioned? You can run on local issues, national issues, extraterrestrial issues, whatever. The voters will decide what's relevant. My sneaking suspicion is that it won't be you. Uh, I mean Jeff Stein.

Those who know their US Constitution will know that the Federal government has no authority in certain areas; as such there is no point running for Federal office on issues concerning what is out of the Congress. Trouble is people are ignorant, and politicians get away with it. Think: pork projects, and runaway government expansion.

Well if a politican can not help their local district why have them? They need to represent their district, but being a congressman doesn't just mean voting. You have to try to better your community in any way you can. If you are against Daniel Zubairi for that, well you may need some help

Anyone looking for someone other than Van Hollen to be elected might as well wait until 2008 because nothing is happening this cycle in the 8th district.

Dan Zubairi has been given MINIMAL support with a wink and a nod from MD GOP, but he has been a disaster as a candidate. I hear he has thrown temper tantrums during several public events that would make toddlers blush. That he has done nothing as a candidate and has surrounded himself with kids in leiu of a campaign staff. What professional campaign staff he did have resigned after he didn't pay them. I shudder to think what he would do as a congressman not that it will ever happen for him in the 8th.

Zubairi, attacking Stien on him being Orthodox Jewish is asine considering his muslim heritage. Islam has alot of issues regarding its own conservative aspect.

MINIMAL support? John McCain is minimal support? Tantrums? Looks like some terminated campaign staff are upset they fell off the boat.

I am fairly new to politics on the inside, campaigns etc, but I find it terrible that this is the discussion that it breeds.

I am an Orthodox Jew. The kind that wears a long black coat and my children have the sideburns that we are known to have. That said, my mother is a Registered Critical Care Nurse in New Jersey, my mother-in-law has a master's in biology AND genetics, and my sister-in-law scored a 1600 on her SAT's. Far from being oppressed and eating separately, these women are leaders in their families and communities. I do not understand why we, Jews, despite all of the contributions that we have made in the fields of math, science, art, and civil rights are still looked at through German, circa 1937, glasses.

Jeff Stein is a friend of mine and great American. His wife is a successful accountant and great person.

If I may ask, please keep the discussion germane to politics and not attack one another with bias and hateful prejudice.

We, Americans, are but one nation under God.

I have heard many comments on this blog and have decided to look at it myself. I am personally disgusted at the attacks that have taken place here. I am on friendly terms with my opponent Jeff Stein and am horrified about the things said here. As the child of immigrants i find it terrible the racial and religions bias taking place on this blog. I personally ask that everyone just stop this.

We need to unite as a nation and must be tolerant of the beautiful differences in culture, religion, and customs we all bring to the table here in the United States.

Best Regards,

-dan zubairi

Well said, Dan. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the ISSUES, not the politics-as-usual attacks.

Chris Van Hollen is all about keeping his nice cozy seat in Congress. He could care less about the voters and he obviously could care less about our troops. And I suspect he could care less about the taxpayers too!

I'm voting for Dan - every vote Dan gets sends a message to Chris Van Hollen and others like him that he had better start paying attention to the voters and not his big special interest group buddies.

"...every vote Dan gets sends a message to Chris Van Hollen and others like him that he had better start paying attention to the voters and not his big special interest group buddies."

Kevin McManus, what on earth is that supposed to mean? Is it just because you happen to be best buddies with Zubairi and your website is hosted by Zubairi that you should make such a statement?

In my opinion, Zubairi is his own special interest's group, and a very dangerous one at that. His platform is a carte blanche to expand the Federal government!

For those of you who didn't notice, I found a page reminding us of Zubiari's total failure in his last bid for election... http://epistolary.org/495.html

Are you an idiot SmarterGaitherburg
(aka Justin Preuinger)

This is part of mr zubairi's website

"I am a lifelong resident of Montgomery County, Maryland and have spent the past several years as a small business owner and a grassroots activist and leader across the United States. I have a strong belief in limited government, low taxes, and programs which build on the future of our great country"

LIMITED GOVERNMENT MAN! READ IT!!!!
LOW TAXES = LESS GOVERNMENT.

James Gleisen, where did you find that quote from Zubairi? Regardless of its accuracy, closer examination of what his policies are reveals that there is nothing of the sort. For example, what does the Federal government have with regulating teacher benefits in Maryland in a limited Federal government? What I'm saying is that Zubairi might have a chance at passing for reasonable (with some luck) at the state level, but he hasn't addressed anything specifically at the Federal level. On real Federal issues, he's a mystery candidate.

I'm not an idiot. I'm a constitutionalist. Have you ever read the Constitution? Have you ever read what the the founders believed? Or do you believe in "fad politics"? In reality, many things we currently attribute to the Federal government are really rights belonging to the States, which the Federal government has no right in interfering with.

I have now located the quote on Zubairi's site. I still think it contradicts Zubairi's more detailed position.

I have read the constitution. Was this not the same document which barred women and blacks from voting by our founding fathers? As our country progressed, our leaders had the insight to change it as our society became more progressive. Just like our leaders would like to modify it to maintain that marriage is between an man and a women.

Where exactly in the Constitution does it bar blacks or women from voting Mr. Gleisen? The Constitution only delegates power between different branches of government and protects basic natural rights. It is silent on voting requirements leaving that to states. Blacks did in fact vote in many states.

If you are referring to the 3/5 clause, that only counted slaves in the population for representation purposes. Free blacks counted fully (See Federalist 54 by James Madison). This clause was actually an anti-slavery clause insisted on by the north. The southern population was not fully counted for House seats and gradually got overpowered in the House by the free states.

Well said Amit! Anyone who believes our constitution is racist or similarly discriminatory does not understand what America is all about. If you'd like to read a website from someone who is a great leader and understands American principles, please check out Jeff Stein's website at www.jeffsteinforcongress.com. He's getting a lot of support from all over the country.

Keywords: Jeff Stein for Congress

I think you guys should check out Dan Zubairi for US Congress. He is officially supported by Governor Robert Ehrlich, US Senator John McCain, and many other local and national political leaders. He is very far ahead in every poll taken for the GOP Primary Nomination.

I called into Ehrlich and Steele and they both denied that they have endorsed Zubairi and I invite anyone whose reading this to do the same. Check out Gus Alzona at www.alzona.com. At least he's honest and his platform goes beyond being a suck-up and a party hack.

Hmm. So if Ehrlich does not support Zubairi why is his running mate doing a fundraiser for him? If McCain is not behind Zubairi, why did McCain give Zubairi $1000?

Did you see the quote in support of Zubairi on his website from Governor Ehrlich?

Alzona has a long history of causing trouble within the GOP. I served on the County GOP with him a while back and he is nothing but trouble.

There are three running for this seat. Make a choice between the two, just not Alzona. If you want Ehrlich and Steele's numbers to go down, and for Ehrlich to lose, vote Alzona. If you want Ehrlich to win, vote one of the other two running.

I agree. Dont vote for Alzona. He's a nutbag.

I'm jewish and I remember he did some Nazi thing a while back because he wanted to get his message across. He did this WHILE he was a member of the Anti Hate League for Montgomery County. This guy runs around dressed in world war two gear and pickets against the Governor. The only reason he is even running for office is because he wants his seat back on the county GOP. He will lose both the primary and his chance to be on the GOP

There is something strange with this supposed Zubairi endorsement. I called the Ehrlich campaign and they said there was no endorsement yet Zubairi makes it appear that way. Other than this, Zubairi doesn't seem to offer much in terms of voter appeal anyway. I know Gus and think he's calmed down a bit and would do better. He is bright and capable. The other guy Stein has the most amazing political website I've ever seen, but I've never met him. I'm leaning toward Gus but am anxious to hear from Mr. Stein. Knowing Dan, I don't think he offers much to the ticket.

Hey "Jack", or whoever you really are, there was no one named "Jack" who ever served on the Montgomery County Republican Central Committee. So, your personal attacks on Alzona have no credibility here.

Also, if you were to do a LexisNexis of all the press articles regarding Augustus Alzona over the years you would read the fact that he stood up against his colleagues' bigotry towards a Hispanic woman who wanted to join the committee back in 1999. Alzona then resigned his post as Party Treasurer as a protest against their actions.

Alzona basically outed the closet racists in the local GOP and they later falsely labeled him a "troublemaker" as a result. The MD state Party finally stepped in and eventually appointed the victim, Maria Pena Faustino, to an even higher level (statewide) position than the local one she originally applied for. Presidential candidate George W. Bush gets a historically higher percentage of the Hispanic vote and goes on to win the 2000 elections. End of story.

P.S. I know I've oversimplified here, but, this is not the place for dissertations.

I dont think any Republican offers anything for the ticket. Chris Van Hollen is the only one who has anything to offer for the district. All of you Republicans are going to lost. Stop making yourselfs out to be better than you are. You are are worthless. Every last one of you. You started an unjust war. You tanked the economy. You deforested wetlands. You destroyed education. Need I go on.

We all know Chris Van Hollen is going to win. There is nothing any one of you Republicans running in the 8th have anything to offer. NOTHING!

lets look at 2004

Van Hollen 75%

Chuck Floyd 25%

ALL YOU GOP PREPARE TO WEEP!

Vote green

I agree. Van Hollen is unstoppable.

Stop with your whole vanity you republicans.

I would not say that Van Hollen has this race locked up. Dan Zubairi is very wealthy and powerful and has many connections. He is one of the rising stars in the national party and may even find himself in the White House one day. His intelligence is superior to Van Hollen's and his approach to the issues of the day is much more thoughtful. I find him to be really inspirational. I read and reread his opinions with great pleasure and appreciate his special perspective. If more Republicans were like Zubairi all the problems of the nation would be solved. Keep up the good work Dan and don't give up the fight.

Before you guys try to crucify Alzona (again?), take a look at the actual Mel Brooks like PARODY flier that just reminded folks of the historical relationship between the original Nazis and gun control. It's still available for download at the Maryland Tyranny Response Team website.

I read this site many times and my conclusion is that there are just 2-3 people posting back and forth. I am an english teacher and have seen the same style of writing over and over. It is very clear here that only a 2-3 people have posted most of this bulletin board.

Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment of the GOP

Though shall not speak ill of a fellow Republican. We must stand together as a party despite our political differences.

We are all working for the same cause as Republicans so let us stand united. Unlike those evil dems who will keep losing.

GO EHRLICH

GO STEELE

GO WHOEVER WINS SEPT 12th PRIMARIES

"If more Republicans were like Zubairi all the problems of the nation would be solved. Keep up the good work Dan and don't give up the fight."

Yes, Zubairi is wealthy and knows people, but beyond that? He can't even give us a reasoned policy in his platform, or even make his platform agree with his mission statement. He's not bringing us anywhere! I just happen to have a view of America that is in direct agreement with the principles of the Founding Fathers, and base my political thought on the same truths they saw as self-evident. If Zubairi or Bush want to disagree with the Founding Fathers, then fine. You and I, the patriotic Americans that we be, will understand the truth! We will choose Jeff Stein, and the liberating truths of his platform!

And "endorsements"?!?!?!? Will Zubairi please substantiate his claims?

By the way, I have never posted on this site under any other name. Zubairi and his friends may have, but I've been honest about this.

Long live the our great constitutional republic!!!

www.ChooseDan.com

Kristen Cox, Ehrlich's choice for LG is hosting a Fundraiser for Zubairi.

Senator John McCain has donated $1000 to Zubairi for Congress

The fact that Ehrlich's people are doing a fundraiser is evident enough on who the Governor supports. The fact that John McCain gave Zubairi a large donation shows who he supports.

I dont see any other republican candidate having any backing from main street republicans or anyone else besides SmarterGaithersburg. Its about putting republicans in place who can win or come close. Its about having republicans win who post primary can afford to put in large amounts of their own money to compete with Van Hollen's 1.3 million dollars on hand.

I simply dont see anyone buy Zubairi being able to front the needed funds post primary and raise them through his party and PAC connections.

Dan Zubairi is the only one who can financially make this race competitive against Chris Van Hollen and afford to
devote the time required to make this election competitive. Elections are expensive and Mr Zubairi is THE FRONTRUNNER and he has polled to win the primary (significantly) in every pre-primary poll taken to date.

Remember this. REPUBLICANS WHO CAN WIN. While certain candidates may have a different message or approach, its not going to be competitive in the liberal 8th district.

Hmm... If you count out Zubiari's parents' money, I understand Jeff Stein has raised more. By the end of this week, Jeff Stein will be the front-runner, especially after his event on Thursday! The Zubairi campaign's credibility is sort of bogus, considering their platform and their trouble in substantiating claims of endorsement. My understanding is the governor has only endorsed two candidates, neither of which is Zubiari. The leadership of the GOP is not exactly excited about Zubairi.

And no--I'm not the only supporter of Jeff Stein. I just happen to visit this page the most frequently. Jeff Stein's base is growing daily, and Stein's message is reaching people of all party affiliations, unlike Zubairi's.

Actually, there are legal limits at to how much one's parents can assist in an election. Its $4200. Not very much. The FEC regulates this pretty toughly.

Zubairi is a successful self made businessman who did not rely on his parents to fund any portion of his company.

Its pretty clear that SmarterGaitherburg simply wishes to smear other Republicans here and cannot really make any real claims against the others in the 8th primary. I suggest checking out the other two websites.

www.alzona.com
www.choosedan.com

I do not see the word endorsement on any of Zubairi's pages. SmarterGaithersburg needs to form his arguments with logic rather than emotion and dishonest rhetoric.

We understand who you support and its your constitutional right. But its also pretty sleazy to openly make false claims about individuals you dont even seem to know.
In one week voters will make their decision.

Gus Alzona is the man!

VOTE GUS ALZONA. Stein is crazy. He plagerized his entire website. Its just stuff he took from our Founding Fathers. Gus is a REAL REPUBLICAN. GUS ALZONA for US Congress. Remember to vote Sept 12th.

Zubairi cannot have things both ways. He cannot say that he has been endorsed and then say the word endorsement has not been used. Do you realize I've spoken to the guy and he indicated that he believes that the Gov and Lt. Gov want him elected? If that doesn't mean he thinks he's been endorsed, then I don't know what it is. Enough playing with words.

Stein plagiarized from the founding fathers? Good greif! Give me a break, not only is that material in the public domain, but he also clearly gives the author. Plagiarism only occurs when you claim another's work as your own. He quotes them to show that he agrees with what they wrote.

Why is Stein crazy? If you want to do ad hominem attacks that are baseless, then please be aware that there is much more material available for such regarding the other two candidates. I, the gentleman I that I am, will not use those sorts of arguments against them, as I believe in debating ideas with true logic. If I have a problem with a candidate, please be aware that there is a reason for it, I don't just dream these things up. By the way, I have met Zubairi, Stein, and Alzona in person and have had conversations with all of them. I want to tell you that "crazy" is the last word I'd use to describe Stein. It's like using "wilted" to describe an immaculate fresh rose. It's just totally out of place.

"Poll Watcher", you wouldn't happen to be D. Zubairi or K. McManus, would you?

Hey Poll Watcher, aka Dan Zubari! Where's that party support now? Looks like you're about to be pasted by a guy noone ever heard of. No matter - it doesn't make much difference against the safest seat in Congress. What a joke of a campaign and what a joke of a candidate.

Might I inquire who posted under my name? I do hope that this was an accident; although seeing how Jeff Stein signs have been stolen, dropped down, or otherwise vandalized I wonder.

Nevertheless, I wish to challenge the post - stated in my name - that endorses Van Hollen as a good candidate. I, who have posted on 5/24, 6/16, and 8/24 do not support the posting of "2 cents" stated on 8/28. Going forward, that posting should be referred to as "nonsense". :)

Please, everyone, try to keep perspective here. Dan has been an active member with Republican politics for some time now and Chris Van Hollen is a bright individual who managed to beat Connie Morella a couple elections back. The limitations of each candidate lie in that Dan is not YET ready to serve in public office and Chris Van Hollen cares more about being a Senator than he does his next door neighbor. Is that to say that Jeff Stein, a political novice, is the best candidate? No. So, all things being equal, let's look at our candidates by first name:

MARYLAND'S 8th DISTRICT
Chris - pros: experienced, good looking, and a bright young man. cons: his focus has become politically ego-centric and his failure to recognize the dangers of taking a soft hand with international terrorism endangers thousands of Americans.

Dan - pros: he works very hard to motivate teenage and young Republicans to be active in politics; he has money to spend on a small-scale campaign; his job is conducive to campaigning. cons: Dan lacks self-discipline thereby making him a significant political liability; he also tends to play the part of larger-than-life and people aren't responsive to that. In time, Dan will make for a good leader and I look forward to when I can fully support him.

Deborah - pros: she's exercising her right to express her opinions. cons: she's exercising her right to express her opinions.

Gus - pros: he's been around for a while and is a pleasant enough fellow. cons: does not appear to have the organization or funding to run a campaign on the federal level; his platform tends to be geared more towards being anti-liberal than for something. I like Gus and hope that he continues to stay involved.

Jeff - pros: he's got a solid campaign platform and a highly motivated core of talented volunteers; he is well spoken and has not been tainted by years of political experience; for what it's worth, having a direct connection to Montgomery County's Jewish population with strong ties to both the Catholic and Christian communities is definitely a plus. cons: Jeff's campaign was slow on the go in raising money and getting mobilized. He will need the support of key political players in Montgomery County if he is going to challenge Chris' record and make the case for why he is more qualified. Jeff Stein will need to create a highly motivated team of people able to convey the values of U.S. principles to John Q. In today's age of bullet points and instant gratification, Jeff's ideological platform will be fighting uphill all the way to November. I think he has the temperament to get to the top but Chris will have to further help Jeff through making more political mistakes, repeatedly undermining our country, and moving closer to the radical left. (I am encouraged to know that Chris Van Hollen has been seduced by political ambition, portrays the UN as better than the US, and hopes to one-day lead the movement towards socialist government. - OK, so this last sentence was gratuitous; but time will tell if I am right.)

Take care everyone and please remember that at the end of the day, we're really all trying to do what's best for the people of the United States of America.

So, God Bless us all, and be well.

2 cents

I honestly disagree with 2 Cents. He is clearly a political insider or political consultant personally familiar with each and every candidate in Montgomery County. I personally we need to look at a public opinion of what each representative can do to help Montgomery County.

The rundown by 2 Cents, a former campaign Manager for a Montgomery County Councilman, a Republican Congressional Candidate, and several smaller elections, does not really give true perspective into what each candidate offers to the district.

At the end of the day its about who can bring politics back to the people. This is my personal assessment as a layman

Van Hollen -
VERY Popular. Plays both sides well. Not going anywhere for a while

Deborah Vollmner-
Someone who really cares about her cause and is all around one of the nicest people I have met

Gus Alzona -
All around nice guy. Would do great running and serving for the county council. He is very passionate, caring, and concerned. Unfunded. Cannot afford to run a campaign

Jeff Stien -
Newcomer to politics. Uncorrupted by DC. Idealistic. But idealism does not fly. People care about what you can do for them in this selfish town. He has shown great thought and insight with the issues on his internet page and would be a great political analyst. I think he's not yet ready for large scale politics and he would be better served in the state legislature, as many of his issues are those regarding state rights.

Dan Zuberi -
A Republican's Republican. All around nice guy. Closely tied to the RNC, the local GOPs. He has been organizing grassroots for a long time around here. Comes from a rich family, went to prep school, and he can afford to run. His issues are interesting but as a Republican he simply cannot win in his district.

The primary election approaches in a very short amount of time. Let us stop this redundant and repetitive BS until after the election. Nobody is saying anything new here. Same people posting, same comments.

I'll give you something to talk about.

Van Hollen does not like Israel

I am sick and tired of all the same people posting on the blogs. Its clear that each and every poster either works for a campaign or is a friend of a candidate, or even the candidate themselves.

I urge the general public to ignore the self loathing posters on this blog who none of should be running for office if they behave in this manner.

I did not realize that a common phrase was somoeones name. I apologize for offering my 2 cents.

I still condend Van Hollen will win. There is no stopping him. He has done a great job for Prince George's and Montgomery and will continue to do a good job. What is nonsense is the other 2 cents who posts here. Who clearly works for a candidate.

VAN HOLLEN FOREVER

Hmm... Would you rather have an idealistic candidate with a less than amazing budget, or would you prefer a candidate who has been bought by big business and the New World Order folks? Zubairi thinks he can purchase the GOP's support, but my vote is worth more than that.

Guys, the choice is clear, Vote Jeff Stein to keep America free!

Unlike Zubairi, Jeff Stein can win the Jewish vote which is dissatisfied with the poor performance of Van Hollen, and will allow him to have a serious chance in November. If you're a Republican who wants a campaign that can succeed, not because of the candidate's ego but because of the message of the campaign, vote Jeff Stein.

As far as the statement regarding the involvement of the posters here, I think that being in the know is helpful for getting out the facts, and as a result shouldn't be necessarily looked down upon. I will say: I was not, am not, and will not be paid by any campaign in this election for my opinions or even what I write on here. I have a genuine concern for America, and to sit on the sidelines while America goes down the drain would be immoral! Please do not think otherwise, as I am not a lobbyist, an anti-American globalist taxpayer-defrauding corporatist, or even a political consultant trying to help a client.

Am I "self-loathing"? You mean I hate my efforts to help our Republic? Seriously I don't understand why anyone would say such a thing. Would you please explain how I am hurting you by bringing up the truth and refuting lies?

Van Hollen an anti-semite? Come on SmarterGaithersburg. Chris is one of the strongest and staunchest allies of Israel. You guys are just spinning this to make him look really bad. There is no doubt that Chris is a friend of Israel and a great friend to the Jewish community in Montgomery County. No other congressional representative has done more for us than Chris. He will always have our vote

It's pretty clear now that MD state GOP Chairman John Kane and his local county chair Tom Reinheimer have endorsed Daniel Farhan Zubairi for Congress. Both of them hosted Zubairi's recent fundraiser and both Alzona and Stein are NOT even listed as Republican candidates on the state Party website. I guess Kane and Reinheimer want to make sure that the Party has the local Pakistani Muslim equivalent (Zubairi) of Dick Chaney's boy, Ahmed Chalabi, to represent the GOP in Maryland this year.

So he can get the Jewish vote. But will that win him the election. In 2002, when Van Hollen won a hotly contested primary the one person of Jewish Faith, came in last

Chris Van Hollen
Mark Shriver
Ira Shapiro

For Jeff to win, he first has to beat Van Hollen and Vollmer in the Primary. Ira could not do this, how can Jeff?

The Republican Party is full of racists. They will never support a non-white candidate. Zubairi has been treated horribly this week after all the work he's done for the party over the years. I can't believe that the establishment has sold him out at the last minute. What were Cox, Reinheimer, and all those whitebread candidates doing at the white guy's event when their supposed to be backing the minority candidate. The answer: their just paying lipservice to the minority community. Their actions speak louder. I for one am not proud to be a Republican of color today and am rethinking my party affiliation. This white guy may win the nomination but it is only because he's white and privileged.

Reinheimer will do whatever he can to get ahead in the GOP. He's a fat scoundrel who is only interested in himself and the financial rewards that have come to him while being the monkey for the GOP machine.

Cox did what she had to do. She spent maybe 7 minutes at that event on behalf of Moshe Starkman. I think Starkman could have had a better showing. Seven people simply does not show support

Zubairi clearly misrepresented that he had the endorsement of the party, since some of those alleged endorsements are showing up at other people's events. There were a lot of Republicans at that event last night, including about a dozen candidates. Check out this analysis of the candidates. http://crankycon.typepad.com/cranky/2006/09/jeff_stein_for_.html

The same party people who showed up at Stein's event apparently attended Zubairi's event too. Check out both websites.

He would vote for Van Hollen!

Like everyone else in Montgomery County.

Who cares about this lame gop election. The house and senate will be taken this year. The Whitehouse will be taken in 2008.

There is only one SmarterGaithersburg. Will the fake please not write in my name, which I invented? Although I agree with this following statement, I did not in any way write this:

"Zubairi clearly misrepresented that he had the endorsement of the party, since some of those alleged endorsements are showing up at other people's events. There were a lot of Republicans at that event last night, including about a dozen candidates. Check out this analysis of the candidates. http://crankycon.typepad.com/cranky/2006/09/jeff_stein_for_.html

Posted by: SmarterGaithersburg | September 8, 2006 07:06 PM "

Notice the pictures on both websites...

There are 11 other people than Zubairi in his pictures.

On Stein's site, we find that there are at least 35+ pictured in addition to Jeff Stein (maybe you can count more?). Having been there I know there were quite a few others.

So, if a few candidates visited both, what does that say? Just that they refuse to endorse one over the other. John Kane said he endorses all candidates in the primary. I think this is the opinion of a good many others, but you'll also notice many didn't go to Zubairi's, but rather to Jeff Stein's. What I'm trying to say is that Zubairi is making it look like he's their sole preferred candidate, when it's far from the truth. His inner circle of friends and his youthful teenage fans like him, but beyond that?

Racist??? Have you ever read Zubairi's website or met him for more than 3mins? It's not his race, it's his platform and his goals that don't make sense! It's not just because you have darker skin that you deserve votes! In fact I personally like Corrogan Vaughn's Senate campaign. I believe that all people are created in God's image, and disenfranchising some on account of race would be wrong. Promoting people on that basis would be wrong as well.

www.mdgop.org
Maryland Republican Party

Click Candidates

Click House

Go to the 8th

SmarterGaithersburg:

Were you at both events? I was. And I am sicking of seeing you bash Republicans here. I also heard from an fellow RJC member that you said that Hitler's 2nd in Charge was one of your favorite people. Shame on you. In the GOP we have a thing called Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment. You should read it. I will be voting for another candidate on election day and it will not be Zubairi or your guy. I am voting for a REAL REPUBLICAN!

Methinks "50 cent" be a Democrat mole or even and an RNC mole, pretending to be someone he's not and trying to stir things up. Using different fake handles to diss Alzona, Stein AND Zubairi he hopes to get their campaigns to turn on each other.

I see one of John Kane's girlie boys had just posted the link to the state party website that implies an endorsement of Zubairi. Fact of the matter is Kane and his fat toad Reinheimer really don't give a hoot about Zubairi. They just want Zubairi's family and friends money in order to help Ehrlich and other top of the ticket candidates.

I have worked with Alzona and Zubairi for a long time. And they have both been long time GOP activists. Alzona has done a great job organizing the Filipinos and Zubairi has been an advocate and run many GOP organizations since he was in high school. I know for a fact Zubairi does not give money to anyone in Maryland. He gives his time. As does Alzona and many others. The other guy running is a newcomer and has never done anything to build the party. I will not give my name, but will say I have been around the GOP for a very long time.

The only ones who will work for the entire ticket are Augustus or Daniel. Plain and simple.

"I also heard from an fellow RJC member that you said that Hitler's 2nd in Charge was one of your favorite people."

I don't know who you think I am, because I never held such a position. I have always held that the Nazi's were a depraved lot who committed crimes to furthur their agenda. Do you realize that my grandmother lost her first husband to WW II? Do you realize that my other grandmother was stuck in northern France during the war and still has bad memories?

As far as donating money? Zubairi clearly told me he donated money, and he even told me how much. I am not sure what you mean here, but I guess we really can't trust Zubairi to tell the truth, which is what I've believed all along. Whatever the case, he is clearly trying to manipulate the GOP for his own gain.

"Were you at both events? I was. And I am sicking of seeing you bash Republicans here."

Who are you anyway, and why do you think I'm so wrong? Bashing Republicans? You mean I should praise them all, even those who have clear flaws? No, I have a moral obligation to tell the truth! I will not let people like you silence me to promote your own agenda. The people have a right to know. That 11th command is always invoked by Zubairi to protect himself from the light of truth. He clearly knows that anyone can see through his platform, and wants to embarrass those who dare disagree as being "disloyal" to the party! Besides, if you knew what I knew, you would agree with me.

This is a crazy blog. I have had a lot of fun reading this. I am an independent but this whole message board is some of the funniest stuff I have ever had the benefit of reading in my life.

Does anyone remember when Karl Rove had the pollsters do a push poll down in South Carolina where he said WOULD YOU VOTE FOR MCCAIN OVER BUSH IF YOU KNEW HE HAD A BLACK BASTARD DAUGHTER

This does not come close to that level of intensity but it really has been a whole boat load of fun reading this over the past several months.

Special thanks to all those people who have made me laugh during this primary. I will be watching the paper on Wed morning.

My favored candidate in all of this is the Wigman. Would be funny as heck if he won this thing over Governor Steele.

And the real important race will be the Omally and Ehrlich race in November. Anyone wanna take bets that its much dirtier then the ones in Virginia last year?

It's not crazy to believe in Dan Zubairi. He is inspiring and he can win! This guy has a really bright future and will shake things up when he goes to Washington. I will proudly cast my vote for a winner this Tuesday, Dan Zubairi. Everyone else will too. Zubairi is the only person in the party who can beat Van Hollen and he has our gratitude for running. That nazi running against him should be ignored.

Sean, who are you calling a nazi? me?

Step away from the counter, NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU!

I want my Muligawayny Soup! Dont make me bust a cap.

"He is inspiring and he can win!"

That's not very deep, guys. I put my vote for someone who believes in ideals and principles that have stood the test of time, rather than the latest machinations of Dan Zubairi. That's why I've chosen Jeff Stein. Unless you have something to gain from voting Zubairi (earmarks, government contracts, [halliburton anyone?{probably some other corporation, but you get the point}], or other such corruptions) I wouldn't advise you to give him your support. His convictions are based in man-made conventions that can be changed when convenient, whether for personal benefit or party loyalty. If you want to elect someone who will be swayed by every wind of doctrine that comes around, then Zubairi is your man. However, if you love your country, and recognize that we learn history for a reason, then vote Jeff Stein!

"This is a crazy blog. I have had a lot of fun reading this. I am an independent but this whole message board is some of the funniest stuff I have ever had the benefit of reading in my life."

Good! Considering some of the rubbish I've seen on here, I'd probably have to say that some of this is seriously crazy! LOL!!!

"My favored candidate in all of this is the Wigman. Would be funny as heck if he won this thing over Governor Steele."

He's just wierd! I sent him an email telling him that his campaign was so unserious and it looked like a joke. He replied, seeming to miss my point entirely! If you haven't visited the wigman's website, and you want to see some stuff that just doesn't make sense, head on over... LOL!!!

HOW HOPE ZUBAIRI WINS TOMORROW SO THAT HE CAN GET PULPED BY VAN HOLLEN!!! CONSIDERING HIS STRONG SHOWING IN HIS LAST HOUSE OF DELAGATES RACE HE SHOULD BE THE CANDIDATE!!! THE ONLY BETTER CANDIDATE THAN ZUBAIRI WOULD BE CHUCK FLLOYD BACK FOR SOME MORE PUNISHMENT!

HOW I HOPE ZUBAIRI WINS TOMORROW SO THAT HE CAN GET PULPED BY VAN HOLLEN!!! CONSIDERING HIS STRONG SHOWING IN HIS LAST HOUSE OF DELAGATES RACE HE SHOULD BE THE CANDIDATE!!! THE ONLY BETTER CANDIDATE THAN ZUBAIRI WOULD BE CHUCK FLLOYD BACK FOR SOME MORE PUNISHMENT!

Evidently my blog was brought into this by Smarter Gaithersburg, and I appreciate the link. I have no ties to any of the candidates, but after a very close look at the Republican nominees it was a pretty easy call to fo with Jeff Stein. It's probably too late to make too much of a difference, but I don't think I could support either of the other two candidates if they pulled it out. VH will probably win either way, but I'd rather be able to vote for a guy like Stein who actually has a backbone and who hasn't cast his lot with the paleocon isolationists (Alzona), and is not a moderate afraid to take a susbtantive stand on anything (Zubairi).

I didn't actually post the link. I believe someone else wrote in my name and did so.

Anyhow, greetings to all the candidates in the Primary Election!!!

I would like to congratulate Jeff Stein on being the apparent winner. I would also like to thank Zubairi and Alzona for their participation and input in this race. Although we've disagreed on various issues, I think that now that we're past the Primary we can finally calm down a bit. I'd like to extend my best wishes to all the candidates, including those who were not the winner. My hope is that you will all find a good use for your abilities that God has given you. I have heard that some of the stuff I have written has been offensive to certain candidates, and wherever I went beyond what I should have said, I apologize. I hope that you will not be hurt by anything I have written, and always be ready for healthy debate.

Damn. We were all ready to go against Zubairi. He was at least somewhat of a challenge.

Now JEFF STEIN! BRING IT ON BABY!!!!!
YOU READY FOR YOUR 10% ??????????????

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WINNING STEIN!!!! WE ARE GOING TO SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

While Zuberi would have been more of a challenge then Klein, both would have faced serious defeats against Van Hollen. Zuberi may have faired better to some degree because he is more moderate but both him and Klein would have seriously lost.

Time will tell the story...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HEY ZUBAIRI! AT LEAST YOU GOT A BETTER PERCENTAGE THAN YOUR HOUSE OF DELAGATES RACE!

SO MUCH FOR YOUR POLITICAL CAREER!

DEMS WILL BE RUNNING THIS AREA FOR AWHILE MORE!

2 cents (aka John W T)

Where have you been. Everyone wonders where you went after Chuck Floyd fired you.

I'm not sure who all the people who go by the name "2 cents" are, but I think there are somewhere around 2-5 of them on here. Maybe some of you should come up with something more unique so that we know who is writing?

There someone goes using my name again. I am going to go get laid to celebrate Jeff Stein's crushing of Zubairi and Alzona

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Swyve the GOP

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"There someone goes using my name again. I am going to go get laid to celebrate Jeff Stein's crushing of Zubairi and Alzona

Posted by: SmarterGaithersburg | September 14, 2006 05:16 PM"

I do not approve of the language in this message, and I did not write it.

And by the way, I dont get 'laid'

Maybe if Zubair paid the professional staff he hired before they quit he would have gone further....

Michigan guy is Lexi Vandenburg of PA.

I remember that guy lexi. he was fired because he was allegedly abusive to the other kids. screamed and yelled. flipped out all the time. never got anything done. he wasnt even part of the campaign. some outside consultant.

I would ask that PA Guy and TAR and anyone else refrain from attempting to smear reputations. It's immature and rude. And before you make accusations, make sure you have your facts straight.

Tim -
Dont you work for that firm which has never won an election?

No accusations have been made Tim. You seem to be the one making accusations. Your firm was asked to resign. It was not the candidates decision.