Well Obama it seems is to good to be true as this NAFTA Canada thing is making people feel like they have been swooned by a very good car salesman, so our vote goes to Hillary at the last minute, as McCain is four more years of subtraction economics for the working people and addition economics for all the Sheiks and CEO's who line their pockets while cleaning out the American people. We pick Hillary's walk over Barak's talk. The republicans seem to be doing the big oil Sword dance, again crying boogieman while they clean out the cash register and run off to Bermuda with treasure.
The Media is more focused on conflict than content so this whole thing is a mess.

Of course Hilary should continue. We women never stop in the middle of a battle.. You go girl.

The Clintons need to stop with the negativity. I am starting to understand why the Republicans express such visceral dislike of the Clintons. HRC has done everything she can to paint Obama as an anti-semitic, non-Israel supporting, plagiarizing Muslim who can give a good speech but not much else. Its time to turn the page on the Clintons and move ahead with some new leadership.

Hillary doesn't care about anything but herself. She doesn't care if she doesn't have ANY chance of winning, she'll keep going. She doesn't care if she destroys the party and puts John McCain in the White House, she'll keep going. Her over inflated ego won't allow anything else.
The mean spirited politics of personal destruction is a trademark of the Clinton's. So the more she loses the more chance there is she'll destroy any chance Obama has of winning the general election.
Get rid of this hag NOW!

Hillary has done all the heavy lifting for all these years. Why when it's a woman is hard work not rewarded over . . . charisma and "popularity"?

GO HILLARY!

Barack Obama is an empty suit. Someone picked him out of a lineup, knowing that David Axelrod could create a marketable brand and product around him. That's exactly what's happened, beginning with that Orwellian video on YouTube that essentially asked, "Aren't you tired of listening to your mother?"

I was looking forward to helping elect a Democrat, but I'll vote for Nader first. And the Republicans will savage Obama. He's not electable, and the Democrats would be crazy to run him.

You go ole gal. Go with a sense of privilege that the Democratic Party is yours to bring to ruin in the Fall. Go Old Gal. In the name of god GO!

We love you Hillary!!!

Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States!

Hillary "I'm just getting warmed up" Clinton.
Isn't it a little late to be doing warm-ups?

I think Hillary is just getting warmed-over.

Yes, Yes, Yes. If we want a democrat in the White House in 2008, then Yes, Yes, Yes. The republicans are crossing over voting for Obama because they know McCain can beat him in the fall. But Hillary will kick his butt. I think the ticket should be Hillary/Obama

When Hillary talks, Republicans listen.
She certainly has every right to run, but for the sake of the general election, she should cap the negativity. It will be remembered if she wins the nomination. Her words will be remembered if she loses it and Obama wins.
She cares much more about herself than the Dems or the country.

I used to like Hillary and Bill, but once they went negative with tactics out of Rove's playbook, it was all over in my mind. I just am sick and tired of the fear mongering, race baiting, and character assasination. Let's turn the page and at least try something different.

Hillary Clinton is John McCain's one and only chance of becoming President. Bottom lone is, nominate Clinton and put McCain in the White House. The ABC (anyone but Clinton) vote will be overwhelming. People will come out of the woodwork to vote AGAINST Clinton.
Let's not allow 4 more years of neo-con rule. Let's not allow Hillary to destroy both our party and our nation by putting McCain in office.
Send the queen of mean a clear message today.

There are compelling reasons for Hillary to step aside (particularly if she loses Texas or Ohio) and for Obama to wrap this thing up today from the perspective of the future of the Democratic party.

Chuck Todd of MSNBC provides a masterful analysis of why McCain would be at a severe disadvantage if the Democrats are not drawn into a bloody internecine fight, but can focus their attention on him starting March 5:

"If McCain ends up as the 44th president, multiple books will be written about his amazing primary comeback. Should he fail to win the presidency, his remarkable comeback will simply be an interesting footnote in American politics.

For now, McCain's has an incredible challenge in front of him - he has to build a national campaign. And the last thing he needs is a presumptive Democratic opponent on March 5.

But if Obama comes roaring out of Tuesday's contests as the de facto nominee, it's going to be a tough few months for the GOP.

The good news is that the conventions will provide an opportunity for McCain to re-set the campaign. But between now and the conventions, Obama could do some serious damage. He could erode some GOP advantages in red states, which the RNC had no thoughts of defending just a few short months ago.

And if a McCain vs. Obama race becomes semi-official on March 5, McCain could be facing a financial onslaught that will make Clinton vs. Dole in the summer of 1996 seem like a fair fight..."

Among the states in play (many unavailable to Hillary) if Obama wins in Texas today):

*North Carolina (a large African-American turnout coupled with a university "Research Triangle" that could get Obama to 51 percent);

*Montana (the war is very unpopular there);

*Colorado (the state's been on the verge of turning blue for some time);

*Virginia (an historic black turnout could give him the state);

*Nevada (probably out of reach, but it's a cheap state);

And maybe even a few others - West Virginia, Tennessee and Louisiana?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23449606/page/2/

In addition, there would be time for Obama to shore up support in FL and Michigan and if he ran with Webb, strengthened his weakness among the white working class.

Don't be fooled, Limbaugh is right to give marching orders to his dittoheads in TX to vote for Hillary. He's doing very well by the noxious status-quo and a shift of our national conversation to getting things done and less lethal partisanship, will undercut his ratings and influence.

I'm crossing my fingers that Texas (or Ohio or both) fall the right way today). I think Jon Stewart had it wrong last night on the Daily Show that the longer the race goes on between Obama and Clinton, the stronger the victor will become, a so-called trial by combat. (Is this erroneous analysis a product of Stewart's politeness to a guest?) Todd's analysis above shows that Democrats will be losing an opportunity on a large number of fronts, if this contest is allowed to bleed on. How do you spell Pyrrhic victory, for the eventual victor of an unduly prolonged contest?

the nafta thing is a sham.

viceroy harper is playing you..........

Even if she doesn't have major wins, why should she drop out? Why is it that in the past 20 years we've been so anxious to have the nomination race all over with before the convention? Then the conventions are boring, and bad television. Support good television, and support the only candidate with substance: Vote Hillary!

I think Hillary should stay in the case that Obama gets cold feet. Oh that won't happen - it might. Let's say we have a run on the dollar between now and November, we see gasoline prices rise rapidly to over 6 dollars a gallon - he would have to be crazy not to have second thoughts. He walks in the door and says we have to raise taxes and the republicans do everything in their power to block him and the nation's economy slowly gets the life drained out of it. Think he'll want to be President then. Then the posturing will begin - what a mess the next President will be facing.

Sen. Clinton's negative turn is disgusting. She went from being "honored" to tarring Obama in the space of a cup of coffee. She is without integrity. I'm a lifelong Dem who will vote for McCain if she wins. I've had enough of her dishonest and divisiveness.

GO HILLARY!
I love you and support you...For all you people who hate her ask yourself flat out WHY. she has always been a strong positive figure... is that the problem.. you hate her cause shes strong.. or just because its fashionable.
If hillary loses the Primary I will still writer her in and the democratic party will lose my vote...
Keep going Hillary!

Go Hillary! Finally the tables are turned on Obama and no amount of posturing by Obama, his camp and his followers will change the fact that he has serious questions to address.

1. double talk on Nafta
2. dereliction of duty on his job as chair of the Foreign Relations Committee
3. failure to fight for the nuclear waste legislature in a form that will actually have an impact
4. fanning the race card and failure to step up to set the record straight on the Clintons

To name a few...

No recent comparisons of Obama to JFK - that will truly be distorting historical facts.

JFK was
1. war hero (commander in WWII)
2. Pulitzer Prize winner
3. served as Massachusetts representative to Congress (6 yrs)
4. served as US senator (8 yrs)

Obama
1. did not serve his country
2. did not win a Pulitzer Prize
3. Illinois state senator (7 yrs)
4. US senator (3 yrs)

Obama is no JFK.

Given that this is the first REAL chance for an African-American to be in the "white" house, it is truly disgusting to see how hillary tries to demonize Obama. There is nothing democratic about hillary - she should have run for the republicans instead. Weather she wins or not, the clintons have defaced the name of their family. Although as a single white female I have been supporter of clintons in the past, but after I have seen what she has been doing and saying, this racist pig's site makes me through up. There are many qualified women to run for president of United States, she is NOT one of them.

A month ago I could have supported either candidate, as most of their policy proposals differed only sightly.

Yet, over just the last couple of weeks, the Clinton campaign has been seen backed into a corner by a highly popular candidate. This is an element that they obviously hadn't planned on in their strategy, and Ms Clinton and her campaign have begun acting out under the pressure, becoming petty and disputatious.

By not only staying in the race, but actively seeking to discredit and denigrate Obama at every turn, they are doing infinitely more damage to the party and to its success, than if they simply read the writing on the wall and graciously conceded defeat.

Enough. Step down.

I hope that people will stop allowing this country to be the nation of soundbite voters.
I beg Americans to analyze situations. If you have watched the debates, BOTH, Yes BOTH Hillary and Barack stated that they would NOT end NAFTA. Hillary said that she would use the threat of ending it in order to renegotiate it with Mexico. Obama agreed for the most part.

So if someone from Obama's campaign did go off and meet with someone from Canada to reassure them that NAFTA was not coming to an immediate halt, he has not deviated from any pledge. This is in direct correlation with what BOTH candidates stated. They want to re-work NAFTA.

Let's cut all the candidates some slack. None of them are perfect, and we can not over analyze EVERY SINGLE WORD. This country is so fickle. Build up and tear down. It is no wonder the country is in the disarray we are in. We can not be loyal to a candidate and yet we expect them to bend to our every mood and whim. It is impossible to please every one. A candidate can only do their best to work for change and improvements for the nation and to do that they must be 1) POSITIVE, not just about their own abilities but about the energy they put out to others. 2) UPLIFT US a leader who can not move the people, can not inspire us to get off our tush, can not get us to call our congressional members and tell them how to vote will not be able to affect change no matter what they claim they WANT TO DO. 3) THEY MUST DO THERE BEST NOT TO TEAR DOWN. Tearing down others to lift yourself up affects not just the one you step on but the moral of the whole nation. It brings bad feelings, negativity, and sadness to the nation. 4)EXPERIENCE yes experience, BUT experience is much more than political in nature...life experience is important. I value Obama' experience as much as Hillary's. Tecnically, he actually has MORE REAL TIME WORKING EXPERIENCE than Hillary. She has been a first lady, but that is not a job. She wasn't hired for that. She wasn't graded or supervised so we don't really KNOW what she did and she hasn't been on point or concrete about her acheivements. She speaks in generalities which some people in the soundbite daze accept. Some people say that Obama hasn't accomplised anything because they see someone on TV not be able to tell the reporter what he has done. Well, I say, go to his site and READ IT FOR YOURSELF. He has acheived and accomplised and you can see he has worked and accomplished bi-partisan deals. The same goes for his plans. If you only read his overview, well, then you may think that he's not concrete, but hit the PDF and read the ACTUAL PLAN which is pages.

This country needs to STOP with accepting the one liner; the clip chosen by whatever editor at whatever tv station they watch. This is turning over your decision making to someone else because YOU didn't take the time to INFORM yourself.

I hope that everyone looks at the candidates beyond the votes of their US Senate careers. Look at their world experience. I find it valuable that Obama is a world citizen and has lived outside the country. This experience opens one up to knowing first hand that things actually are different in other parts of the world, the American world view is not the only view, and that cultures other than are own can and should be accepted. Its good to have felt what it is like to be the outsider, to be the vistor. That is an experience that is just as important as having listened to your husband discuss what went on in his UN meetings. Fighting for voters rights (Obama) as an attorney is just as important an experience as having defended criminals (Clinton). Both are learning essential to our legal system and both are important. Is one better than the other. No. They are different.

I just want a leader who can move me and interest me and make me care about the country like I did when I was young. I want someone who tries their best to stay focused on being upbeat and not downing anyone personally-not demeaning their character for a vote and then calling them a friend. I want a leader that I actually want to listen too. I think I found that in Obama.

If Hillary wins and that phone rings late at night, Bill will pick it up.

ngray2 | March 4, 2008 09:28 AM : Can you name anything else Obama has done?

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith...

DWayne | March 4, 2008 09:28 AM : Are you ready for McCain then? Obama does not stand a chance of winning the general election in November against McCain or heck even if the republicans nominated their most conservative, Obama would lose. But I am very interested to know exactly what you think Obama has ever done to be qualified for President?

"Obama with no experience..."

He's a 2-term Senator, as is Hillary. She likes to count her time as 1st lady in Ark. & the White House as "experience," but I fail to see how being the President's wife qualifies her for anything.

So, the easy shot...

If you think Hillary is somehow more experienced than Obama,

You might just be an idiot.

Clinton should just give up, everyone likes Obama a lot better!

ngray2 | March 4, 2008 09:28 AM : Can you name anything else Obama has done?

......

Yep..

Obama and (R) Talent introduced and helped pass a credit for gas stations to install e85 ethanol pumps.

Obama introduced CAFE which increaded fuel economy standards which the NYT called "real as opposed to hypothetical results."

Obama worked to promote civil rights and fairness in the criminal justice system throughout his career. As a community organizer, Obama helped 150,000 African Americans register to vote. A

As a civil rights lawyer, Obama litigated employment discrimination, housing discrimination, and voting rights cases.

As a State Senator, Obama passed one of the country's first racial profiling laws and helped reform a broken death penalty system.

AS a U.S. Senator, Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.

"# Housing: In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.

# Predatory Lending: In the Illinois State Senate, Obama called attention to predatory lending issues. Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbying the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.

# American Jobs: Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military."

" Record of Advocacy: Obama has been a leader on educational issues throughout his career. In the Illinois State Senate, Obama was a leader on early childhood education, helping create the state's Early Learning Council. In the U.S. Senate, Obama has been a leader in working to make college more affordable. His very first bill sought to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,100. As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation to achieve that goal in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act. Obama has also introduced legislation to create Teacher Residency Programs and to increase federal support for summer learning opportunities."

# Federal Ethics Reform: Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law. The Washington Post wrote in an editorial, "The final package is the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet."
# Google for Government: Americans have the right to know how their tax dollars are spent, but that information has been hidden from public view for too long. That's why Barack Obama and Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) passed a law to create a Google-like search engine to allow regular people to approximately track federal grants, contracts, earmarks, and loans online. The Chicago Sun-Times wrote, "It would enable the public to see where federal money goes and how it is spent. It's a brilliant idea."
# Illinois Reform: In 1998, Obama joined forces with former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) to pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned most gifts from lobbyists. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.
# A High Standard: Unlike other candidates Obama's campaign refuses to accept contributions from Washington lobbyists and political action committees."

" * Health Insurance: In 2003, Barack Obama sponsored and passed legislation that expanded health care coverage to 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults. In the U.S. Senate, Obama cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.

* Women's Health: Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services."

Those are some of them. But HERE is my point. Length of time at a particular trade is not an indicator of success or a predictor of it. If you look at some of the most successful companies in the Real World, Microsoft, Apple, etc. These are companies that were started by men when they were fresh, young, and full of ambition and ideas and ideals. Nothing fresh and new and earth shattering comes to my mind as coming out of anyone in recent memory from anyone who was firmly entrenched in their CEOships. If you believe that you have done it all and know it all, What do you need to prove to the people? I want a leader who is fresh, has new ideas, and wants to work to prove himself to the people. I want someone who doesn't feel that they are entitled to the office. Now, what has Hillary done?

"Obama with no experience..."

What are you kidding.??

Obama had a full year as a Junior Senator before he started running for the White House. In that time he voted to continue funding the war in Iraq annd promised to bomb Pakistan just in case Osama is hiding their.

Obama supported Bushes education policies which funnels our school tax dollars to religious schools.

Obama is experienced ! Just not to my liking.

If anyone thinks that obama said he was going to bomb pakistan just in case bin laden was there, OR
That Hillary didn't vote to fund the war AND she voted to start it

then YOU DEFINITELY ARE AN idiot.

Obama has NEVER been the front runner in this campaign!
he leads her , before this primary, with less that 100 delegates, but she LEADS him in Super delegates! Additionally, this does not include Florida or Michigan!

She will WIN Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Wyoming and many other states, including Puerto Rico that have not yet voted. And she will WIN the nomination!

A lot has come out about Obama AFTER the other primaries and caucuses were held. had the news media been forthcoming in the beginning, starting January 1st, he would NEVER have gotten this far! Hillary is not only the most qualified candidate, she is for ALL Americans, regardless of race, age, gender, or religion! Yes, she will WIN the nomination and rightfully so!

People are FINALLY starting to take a SLIGHTLY more serious look at Obama. Why should she drop out now when it's so close and people might finally be starting to leave fantasyland??

I will vote for Mccain if HRC wins the nomination

I believe the longer Sen. Clinton runs, the more the American public are afforded the opportunity to see why SHE SHOULDN'T BE PRESIDENT.

Her overzeal to win, at any cost and in any way, reminds many Americans of that feisty, headstrong First Lady who went on national television and blamed 'A vast right wing conspiracy' for her husband's infidelity. It reminds us of Whitewater and missing papers, and her 35 years of fighting the media, her political party, her husband, her husband's mistresses, and on and on.

So yes, Sen. Clinton should remain in the race, if for no other reason than to remind us of WHY SHE SHOULDN'T BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.

Linda

Jeff-for-progress | March 4, 2008 09:39 AM : Just so you know Jeff and don't feel bad as most Obama supporters are just as delusional as you appear to be.

Virginia....contest is over and Obama won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

Nevada...contest is over and Hillary won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

Colorado....contest over and Obama won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

North Carolina ....May 6 2008....108 deligates and 19 super deligates

Montana......contest June 3, 2008 ...21 deligates 8 superdeligates

Tennessee....contest over and Hillary won. Those deligates already in the count in both camps.

Louisania....contest over and Obama won...deligates counted in both camps.

West Virginia......May 13, 2008

I assume that you are one of the kids Obama seeks to confuse since kids are the easiest to confuse. If Hillary quit this race tomorrow McCain wins the general election without question. Rush Limbaugh has always been very conservative and against McCain. Rush's main concern is to insure that McCain does not win and he knows that if Obama is the other choice McCain will win by double digits. There are many other very conservative radio hosts and others that have said they would vote Clinton over McCain because she is no more liberal than McCain is. Those on the extreme conservative side would like to vote Hillary and blame democrats for 4 years of liberal actions in the hope of getting a much more conservative republican in 2012. They could not run someone against a sitting republican President...so they want Hillary but none of them have said they would vote for Obama in November because they will not. In fact Ann Coulter was asked that last night and said " I am not saying that I would vote Obama" But she still says she is voting Hillary. Now this is unusual but considering that Ann is a very conservative republican and McCain is known as the most liberal republican, this is a lucky draw for Hillary. Ann may just want a woman since she can't get a different Republican nominated at this point. The Clinton haters on the republican side are torn between voting for McCain who they see as very liberal or voting for Hillary Clinton and many republican women will do just that (vote Hillary in November) although they won't tell their husbands. The conservative group will most likely set up an independent candidate.

Know this Jeff....republicans (other than the extreme conservatives like Rush) have been voting for Obama in Primaries to date and caucases. They have no intention of voting Obama in November but they know that Obama will be the easiest to beat. Hillary has treated Obama with kid gloves untill yesterday. She did not want to hurt his chances of being VP but now that we see him lying about NAFTA and dealing with Resko (Obama will be called to testify for the defense in Resko's criminal trial)along with the obvious things, like no experience...he has done nothing, I do not even see him as VP. If Hillary chooses Obama for VP then I will still vote for her but if Obama is the nominee then I and the overwhelming majority will vote McCain.

If young people wanted to get involved in elections you should have done your homework first....Try voting at the local level and then follow your candidate if elected to see if that was what you thought you were voting for.

For those that think Hillary is "fear mongering" or negative....hold onto your hats because if Obama is nominated you will see "fearfull" and "negative ads" and then perhaps you will learn something. By the time November comes Obama will not even be able to win his senate seat again. WAKE UP!

VOTE HILLARY OR GET STUCK WITH McCAIN

I will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination.

American women, especially ones who are typically under-educated and under-valued, must have a pretty empty life in general. Everyone of these die-hard Hillary supporters are women, cheering on one of them. Hillary is almost their surrogate in this regard. This old-girl power stuff. To them it is totally immaterial whether this girl has what it takes to be a president, a good one. Feminism at its lowest, if you ask me..

Just call her Hillary Huckabee. Perhaps in November we can have a vote between these two losers.

Sally | March 4, 2008 09:48 AM : I am embarrassed for you dear. Hillary has done nothing negative. She has defended herself against a black man who refuses to allow his middle name to be used, who will be called to testify for Resko in a criminal trial, who has done nothing but give entertaining and even motivational speaches while failing to ever cross the isle in his 3 years as US senator, failed to have a signle meeting on the committee he chairs connected to NATO, voted present 168 times (that means he was confused as to which way to vote or was waiting for someone to pay him for his vote), and turned this race into a race war by not stepping up the first day President Clinton said, "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too". Obama instead of allowing the press to distort the comment and meaning should have stood up and said President Clinton is correct and given all he and Hillary have done for blacks in this country his comments should not be distorted but I Barack Obama will fight on and hope that I can win more states. Had he stood up to say that then I would at least have had some respect for him but he did not because he wanted this to be a race war under cover.

Don't continue to be stupid..VOTE HILLARY!!

Geno said: "Just call her Hillary Huckabee. Perhaps in November we can have a vote between these two losers."

What a ridiculous comment. You're comparing someone within 1-2% of delegates and neck-in-neck races with someone who is so far behind he's staying in it to claim second place ahead of Romney as a BEST case scenario.

Stupid.

Sally | March 4, 2008 09:48 AM : Hillary is by far the most qualified candidate since AL Gore. You seem to think that we the people should vote Obama because he is the first black man to get this far?????How about vote for Hillary because she is not only the first woman to get this far but also has 35 years of real EXPERIENCE working for democrats and can actually beat McCain.

So many comments about Hillary taking negative campaign tactics from Carl Rove's playbook!! That's nonsense!! The Clintons WROTE Carl Rove's playbook. Should Hillary stay in the race even if she doesn't win Texas or Ohio? As a rockribbed Republican? Absolutely!! Her staying in the race with her smear tactics is just as good to McCain as millions in campaign contributions. Borrowing a phrase from other commenters to Hillary, "you go girl".

RazorX | March 4, 2008 10:17 AM : Hillary is the only First Lady that could count her first lady experience because she was given work like the universal health care plans to work on and women's rights in China and the list goes on and on. No other first lady could have started the work Hillary did on health care.....she wasn't baking cookies dear.

Jodi, Your argument over the states in play and the favorable prognosis for Obama if he can put it away soon is with Chuck Todd the chief election specialist at MSNBC. Don't get carried away with your partisanship for Hillary and not see the big picture.

I'll vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination, but folks need to be clear headed about all this. BTW, I have a Ph.D. in political science.

ngray2 : Do some more reading and you will find that Obama's name was added to the state senate bills you have given him credit for. Most ILL state senators will not vote for him because he was given credit for their work in an effort to get him into the US senate race. Health care insurance included as someone elses work Obama is trying to take credit for....kind of like lifting speach lines.

I wish people would stop saying that Hillary has 35 yrs of experience. Are we really going to count eight years in the White House as first lady? Maybe the Republicans should run Barbara Bush. Get real folks.

The Clintons will do anyting to win- even if their actions aid a Republican victory in November. I've been watching in amazement while Hillary and John McCain relentlessly attack Senator Obama. If I did not know better, I'd have to conclude that Hillary is campaigning like she is McCain's Vice President.

You see, it is all about the narcissistic Clintons. Not about the party, not about the country, but about THEM.

ngray2 - I think you're dead-on!!!

Alfonso said: "Are we really going to count eight years in the White House as first lady? Maybe the Republicans should run Barbara Bush. Get real folks."

Is this a joke?!?! HRC wasn't arranging flowers and baking cookies while in the White House, Alfonso.

Funny that you bring up narcissism... you don't see that in Obama?? Look again.

Jeff-for-progress : No dear my argument is with you the person claiming :
This is Your delusion, you said the following which I copied and pasted below:

"Among the states in play (many unavailable to Hillary) if Obama wins in Texas today):

*North Carolina (a large African-American turnout coupled with a university "Research Triangle" that could get Obama to 51 percent);

*Montana (the war is very unpopular there);

*Colorado (the state's been on the verge of turning blue for some time);

*Virginia (an historic black turnout could give him the state);

*Nevada (probably out of reach, but it's a cheap state);

And maybe even a few others - West Virginia, Tennessee and Louisiana "

AND I RESPONDED QITH THE FOLLOWING FACTS:

Virginia....contest is over and Obama won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

Nevada...contest is over and Hillary won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

Colorado....contest over and Obama won. Those deligates are already counted in both camps.

North Carolina ....May 6 2008....108 deligates and 19 super deligates

Montana......contest June 3, 2008 ...21 deligates 8 superdeligates

Tennessee....contest over and Hillary won. Those deligates already in the count in both camps.

Louisania....contest over and Obama won...deligates counted in both camps.

West Virginia......May 13, 2008

I am a chemist and see things in black and white......either Hillary gets elected or McCain. I as a life time democrat will never vote Obama unless Hillary picks him as VP and I hope she does not.......she could pick many others and even black men that have experience worth talking about.

I think Obama is pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. I'm not falling for it. I'm not inspired by him. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon. If he becomes the next president--it won't be because I voted for him. If Hillary is not the democratic nominee--I'm not voting.

Dear Huh?!?
No one said that she was baking cookies and arranging flowers. But you can be sure she wasn't in the situation room. She wasn't negotiating the federal budget with Congressional leaders. The only thing we do know is that she was given an assignment to create and implement universal health care and she failed miserably.

Alfonse: "No one said that she was baking cookies and arranging flowers. But you can be sure she wasn't in the situation room. She wasn't negotiating the federal budget with Congressional leaders. The only thing we do know is that she was given an assignment to create and implement universal health care and she failed miserably."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Obama was in the situation room or negotiating the federal budget either. Maybe he was working a few hours for Rezko at the time.

So you don't count HRC's diplomatic efforts like in China or Kosovo? You think 8 years of meeting world leaders and being that close to the presidency counts for nothing? I will grant that it is a difficult thing to put on a resume, but deep down, do you not feel there is anything valuable in that "experience"? Especially for someone who has a mind for politics, etc. herself?

I think it is ludicrous to compare this to Barbara Bush or any other first lady this country has ever had. Don't you, if you really think about it and step outside the Obama rally?

Like I suspect many voters in states that have yet to vote I don't think any candidates should drop out until after all scheduled primaries have been conducted. Whether the results in any of those state will affect the final outcome, those voters should still have the opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choosing.

Todd is talking about the general election in November. That was what I was talking about, the future, not the past. If you have an argument why Hillary is more likely to carry states listed like Colorado or Virginia make it. No need to be insulting.

Why would Hillary throw in the towel now? She has proved she is a fighter, she doesn't give up no matter what the media and these stuffed shirts have said about her. I am extremely proud of her and want her to stay and fight another day. Everyone in this country should after all have the chance to vote and voice their opinion. She can be the best President this country has EVER had. I will vote Republican if she does not win the nomination. Obama all rhetoric and now we are discovering , the bark is being peeled off and he is being exposed for the LIAR he is.

thisworld | March 4, 2008 11:24 you sais "American women, especially ones who are typically under-educated and under-valued, must have a pretty empty life in general. Everyone of these die-hard Hillary supporters are women, cheering on one of them."

Dear Child, In this race for President a black man named Obama has been getting 80 to 90% of the black vote in most states. The least educated race in this country is the blacks and it may be our fault as a society but none the less the blacks are the most uneducated in this country and they are voting for Obama on the bases of skin color only. There are also very educated and brilliant black people...they are the 10-20% of the black race voting for Hillary.

I'm in RI Today and I can't believe how much dislike there is for Obama her. I havn't seen this in any other state in N.E. Women were especially excited about voting for Hillary. One women holding a sign near the Poll was chanting we can't have Omarosa Obama in the White House. Then there were the little white men in there warm up suit and gold chains ranting that we need someone to fight for the avg guy.( they were Clinton supporters) I think she will have a big night in RI tonight. Who would have guessed?

Jeff-for-progress : General election prediction is simple if Obama is nominated......dems lose because Obama with support from Oprah, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry....still lost CA to Hillary and dems can not win the general election without CA. Obama might get some Hispanics to vote for him in the primaries to come but will never get the hispanic vote in the general election....that will go to the liberal republican McCain if the option of Hillary is not there. McCain won the republican CA primary with support from CA Governor Arnold.....that is a liberal republican Gov. endorsing the liberal republican candidate. Not even MA will vote for Obama over McCain...again despite the Kennedy, Kerry and Gov. Patrick endorsing Obama....MA voted Hillary and this is a state that elected Gov. Patrick (a black man) although Kennedy, Kerry and Patrick are not likely to be re-elected after pledging their super deligate votes to Obama despite the fact that this state voted overwhelmingly for Hillary.

I think Obama is in BIG trouble against McCain. People are finally taking a harder look (or a look at all!!!), and some are not happy with what they're seeing.

Maybe he IS like every politician. Maybe "Together We Can" worked for Duvall Patrick in MA, but the same campaign manager's "Yes We Can" FORMULA might fall short for Obama.

You cannot sustain a pep rally for another NINE MONTHS!!

Patrick found it was harder to govern than to run around repeating A SLOGAN. Wow - surprising, isn't it?!?

Obama? Oh Bummer!

Yes we know Hillary is a fighter...she will fight and leave destruction and hatred in the wake...that has been her and the Clinton's history and God forbid, if she is elected in Novemeber we can expect another 4 years and maybe 8 years of partinsanship, divisions, disarray and scandals .... God please save America, and give us a young president who can bring new fresh ideas and thoughts, to change the direction of our beloved country. Europe has done that and they are all the more better for it.

Jodi,
The voters of Massachusetts will keep sending Ted Kennedy to the Senate as long as he wants to go. Kerry may be a little vulnerable, but currently there is no one waiting in the wings who could knock him out. Governor Patrick, on the other hand, is in real danger of being a one-term wonder. He is currently waging war over a casino with our beloved Mashpee Wampanoags of Pilgrim/Thanksgiving fame, and we're about to pay more taxes on our electric, phone, and cable bills because of his clever new plan. His governance of Massachusetts help Hillary win here. Let's help Hillary stay in the race as long as she wants to, OK?

I really can't understand those are arguing that Clinton should continue. Even if she wins both Ohio and Texas, she simply can not win the nomination in 2008, and she must be aware of that.

Unless Clinton can win 57 percent of the remaining popular vote, i.e. a 14-point lead (including Ohio and Texas), they will arrive at the convention with Obama leading in popular vote, pledged delegates, and contests won.

Why would the super delegates take the nomination away from the first viable black candidate, when he clearly won more popular votes, more pledged delegates, and more contests (unless they want to see another convention like 1968)?

I have to believe that she is now planning for 2012 or 2016 rather than 2008.

She would certainly have a better shot in 2012 against McCain than against Obama. Running against Obama as a sitting Democrat, when he had beaten her before, would be almost impossible. But if Obama loses the general election against McCain, she can easily get an "I-told-you-so" Democratic nomination in 2012. In that case, she may think it to her advantage to stay in the race and wound Obama as much as possible, as long as she can do it without alienating too many voters.

It saddens me, but I really believe she cares only for her power and place in history, and would be willing to subvert the Democratic race for 2008 if it helps her chances in the future.

Clinton is more qualified than Obama, but either one will be better than George W. Bush III, aka John McCain.

Obama needs to become a preacher because he's great at the holy roller speeches.I love it when people make reference to the fact that he has stardust in his eyes "the clouds will part, we will all be nice and thoughtful, we will all get along perfectly, life will be good, we will all be happy" rap. Hey, it's a wonderful thought, but it's not real. We live in a dangerous time, especially thanks to Bush, and we must take hard realistic steps to bring our country from the brink of despair. Hillary WILL make that happen. And hey, what IF she has an incredible advisor (Bill). Why the sexist comments about that? Do you think Michelle isn't going to be "advising" her husband??? Someone who hasn't been a pround American until her husband's campaign starts to show promise? A couple that attend a church that puts down America as a "racist country?" Give me a break folks. WAKE UP and get REAL - get behind Hillary and be part of the folks that bring this country back to the esteemed place it should be in the eyes of the US constituents and the world!

A respectively diverse group of individuals that I work with and who have been following the candidates, both Democratic and Republican, have independently come up with basically the same thought. If Obama wins the Democratic Nomination, we will be highly likely to vote for John McCain, but if Hillary wins the Democratic Nomination, then Hillary will have our vote. The basic reason everyone stated for this thought process was namely "Experience", plain and simple.

Both demos are dangerous to our nation. Both would embolden our enemies, cripple our energy companies,open the flood gates to more trespassers, and increase the handouts to to the undeserving. Osama would vote for Obama and Chavez would vote for Clinton. Real American's know better and will vote for a man of duty, honor, country.

In all my 74 yrs I have never seen any election campaign being so biased so against Sen. Hillary Clinton. Why all the personal attacks,why not say something about Obamas' lack of judgment in being involved with Rezko and his billionaire friend Auchi? Or is it that the BBC tell lies too? Sen. Hillary complained about unfair coverage and she is absolutely right. I pray you do not put Sen. Obama in the Whitehouse as President.

Hill and Bill can sling with the best...I thought she and he were different...but the quest for power is over powering...

It is not about Hiliary Clinton winning or
not. It all about who is the candidate
that can bring peace and prosperity to the
people of america. though I find
that most democrats sided Obama without
exactly knowing why they did it. Anyway,
i have a question - is Barrack Hussein
Obama a muslim?

"Why would the super delegates take the nomination away from the first viable black candidate...?"

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HIM BEING "THE FIRST VIABLE BLACK CANDIDATE" SHOULD HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?!!?!?

So Clinton supposedly played the race card, but Obama supporters run around saying things like this, UNCHALLENGED by anyone.

This has to stop.

We should be electing a President, not a SLOGAN with the "right" appearance.

Crazy!

In trying to decide who to support consider that Hillary started with huge advantages, including: (1) name recognition (2) avalanche of endorsements (3) huge early leads (4) overwhelming advantage in donations, and (5) the best advisors and strategists money can buy.

Yet she is losing by so much that it will take a miracle for her to be nominated. Why?

Who cares?? The fact that she could not win with all these advantages speaks for itself about who the nominee should be.

Come on Hillary fans, soon enough you'll get over her loss and rally-round the anti-Republican candidate.

Our greatest president in history, Honest Abe, came to the presidency with just one term as a Representative. But he brought his life experience with him and it served him better than many years of living the gutters of policits. Obama will bring his own life experiences to bear on the presidency. He's one of us; not from a family of privelege (unlike the multimillionaire Ms. H _Rodham_ C), broken family, and got where he is on his own merits. We need folks like that in DC. We don't need Bill Clinton's protege in the whitehouse, we need a fresh no-baggage start on things.

No he is not a muslim. He has belonged to the Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years. Check out his website.

John | March 4, 2008 01:14 PM: You said " Why would the super delegates take the nomination away from the first viable black candidate, when he clearly won more popular votes, more pledged delegates, and more contests"

BECAUSE it is the job of the superdeligate and in fact the only reason for their existance, to insure that another party (republicans) or group can not stop us from nominating a democratic candidate that can win by crossing party lines to vote in the democratic primary for the sole purpose of putting in a democratic candidate that can not win the general election. That is a part of what happened here in that many many many of the usual republican voters voted in democratic primaries and caucases for no other reason than to get the weaker democrat nominated for easy defeat in November....that would be Obama! Yes the job of the superdeligate is to protect the party from having an unelectable candidate in November. Besides that all superdeligates can vote the way they choose for the good of the party and therefore should ALL be voting for Hillary or accept defeat in November.

of course she should continue.

visit http://wwww.hillaryisourchoice.com

to find those who believe in her and the reasons we do.

also if you go to CNN they have a game to count the delegates until the end and it si very revealing...either one can win.

let every vote count and let the Good Old boys leave her alone.

see commentary
www.hillaryisourchoice.com

samantha'smom: I also am a life long resident of Massachusettes and will campaign long and hard fotr nayone running against Kennedy, Kerry and Patrick on their next runs. If there is not a candidate running then you might have me as the next senator from MA.

The Republicans are THIRSTING, DYING for Hillary to be the nominee. It would unify and energize a party that seemed all but licked three months ago...Hating Hillary is the one thing they can all agree on.

And many Democrats would join them, especially after the negative turn in the Clinton campaign. I spent most of the 90's defending them...now I've come to wonder if maybe my conservative friends were closer to the mark than I ever imagined possible. I just don't want to go back there.

If Senator Clinton ultimately secures the nomination, which seems unlikely, it could be the ultimate Pyrrhic victory. But if she loses with honor and a modicum of grace, she could be a voice -- and a force -- for twenty more years.

Max from NYC is a repulican trying to get you to vote for the weakest candidate Obama. This is simply because the race is about to eat Obama for dinner tonight and this guy Max is still hoping the dems will be dumb enough to nominate the weakest candidate, the empty suit, Obama. Max knows that Hillary will defeat McCain and he knows that Obama has not endured any negative or fear type ads to date, at least nothing compared to what the republicans will do. Hillary has been very nice and tried not to harm Obama in case he was her VP....the republicans will distroy Obama before August.

Looks like slick Will has all the Clinton cronies writing in favor of the cackler!

If she wins I vote for the senile war monger.....

W: you were voting McCain anyway. And if Obama wins the nomination I will also be voting McCain.

They should all quit. We should start again. There is still plenty of time before November.

Neighbours,
it is dissapointing to see that some of you
are making reference to the NAFTA issue with Mr. OBAMA. The CBC and CTV (Canadian TV stations)reported yesterday and today that Mr.Obama did not get involved in the meeting and the alledged comments were notes taken by a Canadian representative.
'The Canadian Embassy and our Consulate General, regularly contact those involved in all of the Presidential campaigns and, periodically report on these contacts to inteested officials. In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago there was not intention to convey, in any way that Senator OBAMA and his campaign team were taken a different position in public for views expressed in private, including about NAFTA.
We deeply reget any interference that may have been drawn to that effect'.

So the Canadian Consulate reinforces Mr. Obama's claim.
Also suggests that this type of confidential meetings with the other candidates might have occurred ( it would be great to hear from Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. McCain.

This is the type of mud politics that is reinforcing the fact that we have to move on with a new generation of politicisns. To support the Clinton's and/or Mr. McCain, is looking at the future through the rear view mirror.

These folks are taking the cue from the media that Clinton has a shot at the nomination. The media continuously underreports the virtually impossible delegate math she has to overcome to be win in pledged delegates. (I'll excuse them. They have ad revenue to be made off a longer primary season.) Clinton only has a shot in the context of the old fart superdelegates rushing to her aid against the will of the actual voters. She will be painted as an illegitimate candidate a la George Bush 2000 if this comes to pass. Not a pretty scene. Even the Clintons can read the writing on the wall when it doesn't say what they want it to say.

The post is just dying for HRC to get out of the race. The fact is Post HRC is very in this race. She has won all the major States incuding Florida and Michigan which haven't even been counted. Obama has been given a free ride by the Media particularly the Washington Post. Now it has come to light that Obama was saying to Canada that he really didn't mean what he said about NAFTA to the voters of America and Ohio. WashingPost why don't you tell us how a left wing platform is going to unify congress and the conservatives in the Repubican party. Why don't you tell us that Obama has been given a free ride

Anyone who wants this campaign to continue is not following it. Senator Clinton has already said that she and John McCain are the only two candidates with the experience to be President. What will she say over the next 6, 8 0r 10 weeks? The Clintons may eventually win this campaign but at the price of losing in November. Democrats are spending 10 of millions of dollars, slamming each other (well, the Clintons are doing most of the slamming) while the Republicans sit on the sidelines and giggle. It'd be funny if this election were not so important to the US and world. The Clintons epitomize the narcissism of my generation and it saddens me that it has lead to this - ego trumping loyalty to party and country.

For heavens sake Hillary has not put Obama down anymore then anyother candidate in History.. Why is every one making such a big deal out of all the put downs. If it were two white men fighting for the postion no one would blink an eye .It would be politics as usual. If Obama wins I will vote Republican .. He will not win. Together she as President he as Vice President the Democrats would be a shoe in.
He will be ready in 8 years.

No recent comparisons of Obama to JFK - that will truly be distorting historical facts.

JFK was
1. war hero (commander in WWII)
2. Pulitzer Prize winner
3. served as Massachusetts representative to Congress (6 yrs)
4. served as US senator (8 yrs)

Obama
1. did not serve his country
2. did not win a Pulitzer Prize
3. Illinois state senator (7 yrs)
4. US senator (3 yrs)

Obama is no JFK.

Posted by: alee21 | March 4, 2008 09:46 AM
----------------------------
No kidding.

Obama did not have a war in which to fight when he was 18-25 (1979-86).

Obama did not have a rich, politically conncted father to fund and garner support for his camaigns. He's done pretty well considering where he started in life.

Obama has written two books. While there was no Pulitzer, they were best-sellers. And Kennedy's Pulitzer was the subject of some controversy -- e.g. whether Kennedy, rather than Sorensen, even wrote Profiles in Courage. In any event, Sorensen is an Obama supporter and advisor.

The only thing that will get the Republicans out to vote and open their checkbooks is the prospect of the Clintons as Senator McCain's opponents.
I want to have "our long national nightmare' of the last 6 years over.

Senator Obama will win easily over Senator McCain, which is why the Rupublican strategists are so unhappy that Senator Clinton won't be the Democratic nominee.

Hopefully people will see obama for what he really is, a person who double talks, contradicts himself, has a wife who is now proud of her country because obama appears to be winning this campaign, and seems to be telling the voters one thing and then going behind their backs and doing underhanded things, like talking to canada. YOU STAY IN THE RACE HILLARY. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN GET THIS COUNTRY RIGHT ON TRACK AND WE WOMEN NEVER QUIT. WE FIGHT!!!!!

Go Hillary! The game is almost over now and despite the Obama double talk....Hillary won TX, RI and OH......It is over now and Obama should step down as neither of them can get the required 2025 deligates while both are running but in the end Obama will not be the nominee and I realize that he is spending the money of dilusional people but he is now hurting the party by staying in the race. If he had dropped out after super Tuesday perhaps he could have been offered the VP but now too much has come out for Hillary to take on the baggage of Obama....Resko, NAFTA double talk, no real record of achievement, a wife only now proud of America because blacks are voting for her husband ect, ect

It was very funny to watch the TV pundants stumble over themselves last night.

@jodi:

It appears that YOU are the one who is delusional. Get real. Brush up on what's going on here and get back to us when you get a grip.

@jodi: Here, this is more accurate: switch Obama and Hillary:

Go Obama! The game is almost over now and despite the Clinton double talk....Hillary won TX, RI and OH......It is over now and Clinton should step down as neither of them can get the required 2025 deligates while both are running but in the end Clinton will not be the nominee and I realize that she is spending the money of dilusional people but she is now hurting the party by staying in the race. If she had dropped out after super Tuesday perhaps she could have been offered the VP but now too much has come out for Obama to take on the baggage of the Clintons....Whitewater, NAFTA double talk, no real record of achievement, a husband who can't keep his trousers zipped ect, ect

I really get a great chuckle out of reading the rants of the Obama groupies. Like the Obama groupie post of | March 5, 2008 09:47 AM ....Did Obama teach you how to copy in one of his speaches or is coping just a monkey see monkey do behavior?

Obama is a con man and that is very clear now. His senior advisor did tell Canada not to worry about his NAFTA double speak. The press and Canada are now playing it down so as not to hurt the democratic party any more. Obama did print false flyers against Hillary in an attempt to mislead Ohio and Texas. Nothing Hillary has done is an out right lie like his flyers were. If he can't win honestly then he belongs in the republican race.

But whether you like Obama or not folks the job of the super deligate is to be sure the electable democratic candidate is nominated. To throw all super deligates to Obama will insure the election of McCain.....If it had been a short nomination process then Hillary could have taken Obma as VP, prior to his double speak on NAFTA and assuming he could control the mouth of his wife. At this point they would have to do polls to find out if Obama is her VP would the ticket win against McCain? Obama is a very easy target for the republicans and I'm sure from watching Michelle Obama last night that she can't hadle it. Michelle thinks the latest Clinton ads in TX were negative or fear mongering and they were nothing. Reguardless of what McCain himself does, the republican machine and side kicks like Rush Limbough will distroy Obama so badly that he won't even get re-elected to his senate seat. Obama is possible but all other possible VP candidates for Hillary have to be considered before offering it to Obama. Perhaps Gov. Richardson is a better pick or John Edwards or better yet, any one of the black senators that have stood up for Hillary and not buckled to the pressure to vote along race lines. Edwards still has 26 deligates which he can give to Hillary if she needs them. But the real bottom line is that Hillary has won all the states that matter in a gerneral election for a democrat. Obama has won many states which will be carried by the GOP in the general election. NO DEMOCRAT FOR PRESIDENT CAN WIN WITHOUT CALIFORNIA AND OBAMA WILL NEVER WIN CA AGAINST McCAIN. Hispanics like McCain, though they seem to like Hillary better, and they as a race will not vote for Obama. If he could win in the general election a number of the republican states to equal the deligate count of CA it might have worked but he can not win those states in a general election. Don't forget that even McCain is not conservative enough for them and Obama is the most liberal senator. He would not get much more than the black vote and that would not be enough to win. Remember that many/most of the states that Obama has won were caucases not primaries. A Caucase is when a few people decide the vote. Just look at Texas where both Hillary and Obama received near a million and a half votes each while the caucases as packed as they were had less than 150 thousand poeple voting. So about 3 million people voted in the primary for the distribution of 121 deligates and the 67 deligates held for the caucases will be distributed by the votes of less than 150 thousand. Winning a caucas is not an indicator of that candidate winning the majority vote for the state. No matter how you do the math, Obama can not win the general election. Most of his "plan" for ecconomy and health care are altered copies of Hillary's plans. So if you want a democrat in the White House then start asking Obama to step down and make this easy..he would at least then still have his senate seat.

Let's see, Obama refrains from attacking Hillary on her long list of scandals dating back to the 1990's (the cattle futures trading, Rose law firm billing, destruction of records, and Whitewater), and I'm to understand that Obama is unfair because he says Hillary was a supporter of NAFTA in 2004. BTW, she agrees that she was a NAFTA supporter, but now wants to make changes to NAFTA, when she responded to questions by Tim Russert at the MSNBC debate. And it's unfair that Obama says his healthcare plan is better because he won't force people who don't want to be covered and she says hers is better because everyone will be covered but is ambiqious how that occurs. Stop with the venom if you are true democrats and not some fox news hater or republican, injecting yourself to stir up hatred among fellow democrats. If the goal is elect a Republican, then I do understand your point. Be careful my fellow democrats who want Hillary to keep up the mudslinging. If Obama doesn't insist on the Clintons' disclosure of her witheld tax return, the source of the 5 million dollar loan to her campaign, and the names and amounts from contributers to the Clinton library, the Republicans will. You don't think these fat cat contributors expect a return on their investment. I can hear the Republicans now, "when these secret contributors call, that will be a true red phone moment". Enough!

The ugliness that is posted here is horrifying. Shouldn't we all be able to get along?

Hillary has resorted to the tactic of mudslinging. It's downright ugly, and if I was a fan of Obama before, I'm only more so now.

She touts her experience, and as one blogger so graciously pointed out, she and Obama have been in the Senate the same amount of time. Her experience as First Lady at the state or national level does not qualify her to run the country, no matter what she might think or how she spins it. I can pick out china and paint with the best of them, and I can read a mean story to little kids, but you don't see me running for President.

He seems to be the one running a campaign based on his merits, his principals and without bad behavior. You don't have to agree with him about his merit or on his principals, but he has behaved far more civilly than she.

Obama has made some mistakes and taken some missteps, sure. Who hasn't in their life? And at least he has admitted his mistakes and done so in terms that left no uncertainty as to what he meant when he was doing so. At least he didn't have to admit to not reading pertinent documents before voting for a war that is costing billions in dollars and countless lives.

So his wife said she hasn't been proud of the US in her adult life. Who cares? He didn't say it. And I gotta admit, I haven't been altogether proud of this place for a large portion of my adult life either. I don't think her statement is a prediction of her ability as a succuessful First Lady. If a person can't speak honestly, what is left in this world?

Obama is far less polarizing than Hillary. The venom that is spewed by those that dislike her is far more deadly than that of Obama haters. That should say something. And to me it spells more accomplished on the Hill with fewer special interest groups and lobbyists involved.

You can question his electibility, but I don't think McCain is a win all proposition. I think he's an old man with old ideas and old promises of more of the same we have suffered through in the last 8 years. People want their kids to have a good education and access to affordable helath care. They want their kids to come home from Iraq. And they want those kids to finally receive the benefits they were promised as a veteran. And even though I have health care and my kids go to a good school, I want all Americans to have all of those things too - even if it means I have to help pay for it.

McCain, with his promises of another 100 years if necessary is not the man to deliver. And while, as a woman, I would love to see the US have a female leader someday, I just don't want it to be Hillary.

Let's hope that from here that the campaign is based on merits and policy differences, rather than negative attacks. But I doubt it. It appears that the only gain Hillary has been able to make in the last 14 primaries has been through the latter. I expect it to continue, unforunately.

I feel it's time for Obama to take the gloves off.

I would like to point out that when Bill Clinton was elected he was the governor of one of the smallest states in the country and had relatively no expereince on a national level. The experience that Hillary claims to have is as the First Lady - now if she advised her husband on policy matters that information should be public. But we all know how eager she is to disclose any information at all. I can't believe people actually would vote for her to be president! I say she has already had her chance. No more Clintons..no more Bushes...Obama inspires and offers hope - he will surround himself with intelligent people to help him lead the country. I would much rather have him than either Clinton or McCain.

If the phone rings at 3:00 am - it's because Bill forgot his key!

For those of you still claiming Texas, 8% of the vote Hillary received was from republicans???? This 8% makes up the 3% that she beat Obama by in the primaries...do the Math.

That means that approximately 100,000 votes came from people who HATE her and know that McCain will MOP THE FLOOR W/HER IN THE FALL.

Now who is deluting themselves. She CAN'T win and the fact that she is willing to break up the party so she feels better speaks volumes to her LACK of character.

I keep saying, she would make a good veep, but still has a lot to learn from the junior senator from Illinois.

NAFTA comment implicated Clinton's campaign, not Obama's

Posted CNN.com: 02:20 PM ET 5/6/2008

Clinton campaign denies Canadian report on NAFTA comments

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/06/clinton-campaign-denies-canadian-report-on-nafta-comments/

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton's campaign is denying a Canadian report Thursday that suggests her campaign called representatives of that nation's government to re-assure them that despite campaign rhetoric, they would not seek changes to NAFTA - an allegation they used against Barack Obama's campaign in the days leading up to Tuesday's critical primary votes.

"Unlike the Obama campaign, we can and do flatly deny this report and urge the Canadian government to reveal the name of anyone they think they heard from," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement.

Shortly before the Ohio primary, the Canadian network CTV broadcast a report that Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee had told officials with the Canadian consulate in Chicago that the campaign would not look to alter the trade agreement, even though the Illinois senator had pledged to do so.

That report became a lightning rod on the campaign trail in Ohio, where NAFTA is deeply unpopular.

The Canadian government has said it is investigating the source of the leak. The Canadian Press reported Thursday that the comment that sparked the original story may have come from Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff, Ian Brodie - and that hisremark had implicated Clinton's campaign, not Obama's. The Thursday story also said CTV's Washington bureau had initially decided to report on Clinton. The New York senator was mentioned in the final report, but it focused on Obama's aide.

The Canadian Press said government officials did not deny the conversation took place, but that Brodie denied discussing either candidate.

Earlier this week, the Obama campaign admitted Goolsbee and consulate officials had spoken, but not under the direction of the campaign, and said that a leaked Canadian government memo implying otherwise had mischaracterized the substance of the discussion.

On Monday, the Canadian Embassy in Washington issued a statement on the controversy that "there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA."

-CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

NAFTA comment implicated Clinton's campaign, not Obama's

Posted CNN.com: 02:20 PM ET 5/6/2008

Clinton campaign denies Canadian report on NAFTA comments

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/06/clinton-campaign-denies-canadian-report-on-nafta-comments/

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton's campaign is denying a Canadian report Thursday that suggests her campaign called representatives of that nation's government to re-assure them that despite campaign rhetoric, they would not seek changes to NAFTA - an allegation they used against Barack Obama's campaign in the days leading up to Tuesday's critical primary votes.

"Unlike the Obama campaign, we can and do flatly deny this report and urge the Canadian government to reveal the name of anyone they think they heard from," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement.

Shortly before the Ohio primary, the Canadian network CTV broadcast a report that Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee had told officials with the Canadian consulate in Chicago that the campaign would not look to alter the trade agreement, even though the Illinois senator had pledged to do so.

That report became a lightning rod on the campaign trail in Ohio, where NAFTA is deeply unpopular.

The Canadian government has said it is investigating the source of the leak. The Canadian Press reported Thursday that the comment that sparked the original story may have come from Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff, Ian Brodie - and that hisremark had implicated Clinton's campaign, not Obama's. The Thursday story also said CTV's Washington bureau had initially decided to report on Clinton. The New York senator was mentioned in the final report, but it focused on Obama's aide.

The Canadian Press said government officials did not deny the conversation took place, but that Brodie denied discussing either candidate.

Earlier this week, the Obama campaign admitted Goolsbee and consulate officials had spoken, but not under the direction of the campaign, and said that a leaked Canadian government memo implying otherwise had mischaracterized the substance of the discussion.

On Monday, the Canadian Embassy in Washington issued a statement on the controversy that "there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA."

-CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

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Many ask the question of how will Hillary get past all of the Clintongates in the general election? Both her & Bill have a long history of deception & corruption in the Whitehouse. Unlike Senator Obama, the republicans will not have to be nice about pointing out these truths.

What the heck was she doing at 25 that counts as experience; she's 60! And please don't tell me she was an intern or I'll puke.

Come on people, how can we claim to be a democracy when the same people continue to run the country! And as for the economic boom we experienced during the "Clinton" years that was going to happen anyway, we were coming off a recession at the time from the first Bush and now the Clintons are trying to cash in again! Don't be stupid folks, the only thing Bill did for the economy was sign NAFTA, a jacked up treaty he didn't even write. Sounds like the Clintons don't like reading long lengthy important documents. If Hillary had read the NIE report we might be in a different state of affairs right now. We need fresh eyes on things! Please go against the fear! Last time I checked Americans were not cowards!

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I think the coming days will kill Obama finally. Fact is no democrat can win the national election without the big dem states! Sorry but it is simple truth. And the fact that Obama does not want to have "do overs" in Florida and Mich is very telling!
Sorry but if Obama is the candicate I will vote for Nader.
Obama's people keep saying that Clinton voters will vote for him if he is the nominee...well I can tell you I know 3 who won't in my family.
His supporters have turned me off to him as a candidate.
We already know eveything about Hillary....and the Bill stuff is so over done! But we are onlt seeing the tip of the iceberg with Obama...from Nafta lies to claims of gay sex with limo drivers to his wife being anti-American ( see the new New Yorker 3-10-08 where she calls Americans sloths!) he doesn't stand a chance in the national election.

NOBAMA 2008!!

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On the NAFTA/OBAMA deal it was the Associated Press who dug in and got the Memo from the Canadians,NOT Hillary...Wake up People...Also,Obama CHOSE to take his name off of the Michigan Ballot...Florida Obama kept his name on there by his own choosing also,The VOTES SHOULD STAND...

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I think that people need to face facts that is becoming increasingly obvious that the Clinton's both have something to hide. It's not that she is only hedging on her taxes (first she said she would never release them unless she was a nominee, then she might release them sooner, now she 'claims' she will release them by April 15, 2008. Now Bill's advisors are not releasing his papers and it goes way beyond just releasing those he pardoned. This is a HUGE red flag! I used to be a huge Clinton supporter but it's not beneficial to continue with the secrecy, whine and target your opponent and then in the same breathe you say you might want him as your VP? Get real! Obama is the front runner! Even IF you gave the rest of the states to Clinton she STILL would not have enough delegates. Is this really worth it? No! She has run a very poor campaign from the beginning and it makes me question how she would run the White House. And, 35 years of experience? Please! That would put her back in college. So, for me, as usual, there is no honesty or real class or integrity with the Clintons. And, the Republican party would have a field day with it!

If Hillary loses the nomination I will vote for McCain.All My family and Friends feel this way because we see the unfair way in which Hillary is portrayed in the Media. Who can you blame for that? Blame the MEDIA. But you can bet the Media and the Democrats will blame Hillary and have already started to blame her.

Every single national news station and paper is a Hillary Hater and I am sick of it!

Not once have a heard/read one nice,positive word pertaining to Hillary or her campaign. No matter what happens in the daily news the media ties it to Hillary's campaign or Bill Clinton's past in one sentence.

1. Ex: Elliot Spitzer, who was caught using prostitutes was a Super Delegate for Hillary Clinton and Hillary was in same situation as the wife standing by her husband. Hillary has nothing to do with this man's behavior but the media try's to dredge up the past and put a negative face on Hillary. The Media doesn't want change and doesn't want to move forward.
2. The 3:00 AM Ad. In my opinion, Hillary was just trying to say I am better qualified to be in the White House, because I am strong and I can make the right decisions for my country in case of an emergency. The Media and Obama are saying she is throwing in the kitchen sink and slip & slide politics. They are so ignorant. The ad certainly put fear into them but the fear and reality is that the Media realized they are responsible for Obama popularity and the Media realized that Obama really can't tackle the hard questions/issues and the Media will have to deal with the fall out once they put Obama in the White House. Obama can't defend him self or the country. Wise up People.
3. Now the media is over reacting and trying to read more into what Geraldine Ferraro said. Just take the words for what they were and stop trying to over analyze it. Omama is playing the race card, so who is throwing in the kithcen sink?

He is just a smooth talker but he hasn't fooled me.

Hussein Obama has fooled and used the young voters because he knows they aren't smart enough to even name their current President or Vice President and they have no interest politics.
What can Hussein Obama do for them? Nothing!

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.......that is his name; a name in which he carefully chose to omit. This man has no character. He is ashamed of his own name. If he can't own up to his own name he can't be taken seriously. He is just a city slicker.

I will not vote for him and I will change my vote. The media treats him with kid gloves. I haven't seen one negative story about him. I think he has the media in his back pocket and who knows who else he's hiding back there.....Nafta/Canada........

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'Raw Politics': Horton hears a Suburblican
By Tom Foreman
CNN Washington Bureau

"Raw Politics" on "Anderson Cooper 360" delivers the latest political news with a wry sense of a humor and without spin.

Can Sen. John McCain win over former Democrats disillusioned with the party?

(CNN) -- In the great book of Republican lore, the story lives on, read in reverent tones to tiny Red Staters even in their youngest years:
On the eighth day, Ronald Reagan reached into the suburbs, the burgeoning fields of new homes filled with families yearning for hope, and he picked up an average working-class Democrat.

Cradling him gently in his mighty hand, and speaking in soothing tones, Reagan said to the trembling voter, "I have terrible news. Your party has lost its way. Democratic leaders are no longer the defenders of middle-class jobs, values and security. They are pandering to special interests. Don't you want someone to be your president again?"

The voter cried "Yes!" and in that moment, the Suburblican was born.

Suburblicans: Former Democrats who believed their party had abandoned them, and who came to be Republican voters. They put Reagan into office twice. They helped elect George Bush. And now, Sen. John McCain must see if he can summon the mighty Suburblicans to work their magic once again.

In many ways, McCain may be the right man for the job. His moderate and much ballyhooed maverick ways appeal to many of these voters. His positions do not force them too far to the right, where they would have to cozy up to the hard-core conservatives. Yet his steely resolve and record of service project a certain stability that Suburblicans enjoy.

He faces real challenges. The war, which McCain supports, is disliked by a great many Americans. Yes, there has been much progress in the past eight months. Yes, public opinion is swinging back toward at least neutral. But it's still a sore point.
The economy is staggering, and McCain himself has said economic theory is not his strong suit.

The current president (a Republican, in case you haven't heard) is about as popular as outgoing New York Gov. Elliot Spitzer is, well, I guess, in his own home. That won't help.
There also is this: Remember, sometimes Suburblicans can undergo a remarkable metamorphosis. While holding onto virtually all their beliefs, expectations and principles, they can magically change into Suburblicrats. Sen. Barack Obama knows it's true. He has been doing well drawing those same moderate, independent and cross-over voters who McCain wants.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is firmly bolted to her Democratic base, so you might want to count her out of the Suburblican sweepstakes, and truth be told, her chances of cleaning up with that crowd do not look good.
But if we could predict with certainty where the Suburblicans will land, we could call this election tomorrow. Because the simple truth is, in a race this tight, these swing voters -- maybe more than the bases -- will decide who wins.

The defining characteristic of the Suburblicans right now is that they are migrating; great swarms of them are darkening the skies of the election, unwilling to make it clear which candidate they will ultimately favor.

But when the Suburblicans finally perch, and shake off their molting feathers, we shall see what emerges: New Suburblicans? New Suburblicrats? Or some fantastic new political animal no one has yet imagined."

Thanks to CNN to have Foreman and Cooper report such an insightful political analysis!!!

It's not only insightful but also enjoyable to read. Many of us will echo with Foreman.
Personally, I think Hillary is not qualified for presidency. I feel most confident with McCain, but will support Obama as my president. But Obama should never join in with Hillary either way, or he will betray his own belief.

Hillary should concede gracefully and try again in 2012, but she won't quit as she is a soldier, not a commander-in-chief. Unfortunately, the voters have to tell her when to quit. If Hillary were the president, all of us will be her commander-in-chiefs. She doesn't predict anything and she takes only one day at a time. Why do we need to hire a commander-in-chief like her?

I learned in economics that sometimes it's cheaper to go out of business than to fight on. I believe that this is the case with Clinton. She cannot win. She can only delay the inevitable, while consuming more capital and creating a more costly failure. In spite of her "vast" experience, she obviously has not mastered economics.

Therefore, instead of thinking and behaving like a good leader,administrator and stake holder, with a grasp of reality and circumspection, she behaves like a genetically programmed parasite. She is driven to survive at her host's expense (the Democratic Party). All the while, not realizing that due to her own actions that, ultimately, she too will succumb.

NOT UNLESS SHE DISCLOSES THE CURRENT FRAUD TRIAL SHE AND BILL ARE INVOLVD IN!!!

THE CLINTON'S FRAUD CASE HAS UPCOMING HEARING DATE TO SET A TRIAL DATE 3 DAYS AFTER THE PENN PRIMARY. THEY HAVE NOT DISCLOSED THIS. OF COURSE THEY WANT EVERYONE TO CHILL OUT! THERE WILL BE A HEARING ON APRIL 25, (2 DAYS AFTER THE PENN PRIMARY) TO SET A TRIAL DATE. She has not disclosed this. Gov Rendell has will be called as a witness by the Plaintiff.

DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go to www.lasuperiorcourt.org (Los Angeles Superior Court) and look in the CIVIL Column, then Click on CASE SUMMARIES then enter these numbers in the box BC304174. It is an active case and has been since January. Sen. Clinton he has not disclosed it.