We are so lucky the rubber-stamping Repugs can't slip in on greased rails more party hacks like Scalia and Roberts and their ilk. Just like the GSA and DOJ, these moral-less thieves and criminals were trying to get their weed-like tentacles into every branch of government, including the SCOTUS. Unfortunately, because of the just as culpable and guilty slime repug congress, we're stuck with these buffoons for a long long time.

Those smart justices may or may not know that burning petroleum products makes CO2 whether they ordain otherwise or not. True, it is far past time for citizens of the U.S.A. to stop buying gas hog SUVs and large pickup trucks to drive one or two people to a nearby big box store. This, not because of CO2 emissions, but because we are entirely too dependent on foreign oil sources.

It is turns out that human contribution to global warming is trivial (I'm of that mind) and in the meantime we wreck our economy over CO2 emissions, then our children and grandchildren will pay the price.

Time for Scalia to go on another hunting trip with his good buddy Cheney.

THANKS FOR THE ADVICE

CH, You are one of the few who is of that mind. The overwhelming body of evidence points to our effects on global temperature, and the overwhelming number of climatologists belive that. And the few who dispute the findings have more often than not been found to be funded or backed by the petroleum industry or their "think tanks". The simple fact that the world population has grown in one generation (1946-2006) by a factor that previously took 10,000 GENERATIONS to acheive points to a very serious problem. Extrapolate that to the next generation and we are in a world of hurt. The problem is, for those of you who want to *put your hand in the wound* so to speak, before you believe, by the time you have your undeniable truth, it will most certainly be too late. There will be no ecomony to ruin.

Try watching the British Documentary on the Global Warming Farce. Humans assume to big a role here. The sun, in all its fury and sometimes lack thereof produces climate change, has for billions of years and will continue to do so even as the human race becomes extinct. There is less carbon dioxide in the air now that 2000 years ago. Samples from the ice age clearly articulate that CO2 emissions have little to do with climate change. The UN paper was not written by the scientists, in fact, many names on the list reject the UN report. It's summary was written by the politicians. Examine the other side of this debate for a little while. Find out the facts. One good volcano equals a whole lot of cars and smoke stacks. Have the EPA run out and regulate Volcanos, now there is a task that we all can sign up to.

WJD,
Regarding that British documentary, some background:

The basic claim is simple - climate change is not being driven by anthropogenic CO2 emissions. The evidence isn't there or the evidence that is there contradicts the hypothesis. Climate change is occurring but it is natural and driven by solar and cloud activity. Global warming is a swindle engineered by climate scientists seeking to sell science by creating extreme stories and who benefit from larger research budgets. Its all a 'lie' and a 'conspiracy'.

The film thus attacks the global warming orthodoxy. The arguments are familiar - the film apparently took 10 years to make so, in fact, many of the arguments have been addressed and thoroughly refuted. The film ignores all evidence and views supporting the global warming hypothesis and the extensive literature setting out these refutations.

From Henry Clark. And about the film's director? Go read this:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/2948/

Real good source, there. Great track record. Much better than 95% of the worlds climatologists. Do some research before posting up crap.

There is No Consensus; Why Not Seek Facts Instead of Preaching??

There are myriad sources and thousands of scientists and other experts who will tell you -- man's contribution to global warming; and, the idea that warming is and will happen to an extent that will cause harm -- are far from foregone conclusions. Why act rashly in an extremely expensive manner based on this?? Why not take the time to analyze what's best for America and the world? Is hamstringing our economy really worth it? Could the money and resources be better spent.

What's so disturbing is that among the masses there is a RELIGIOUS FAITH in the creed of manmade destruction through global warming. Any dissent is treated as heresy. As a society, let's not replace outdated religious dogmas with an equally fact-less witch hunt. Most people in the Center to Left of this country are absolutely LOATHE to folks who seek to IMPOSE their religious beliefs on others. This is no different. Global warming is just a "Secular Sin" that replaces religious sin for people with that void in their lives. If YOU are worried about Global Warming and your impact on the planet's well being, then YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR WAYS FIRST, lead by example, see if it convinces others, and let people LIVE THEIR OWN LIVES HOW THEY CHOOSE.

Midwesterner,
I drive a Prius. And sorry, in this case, the way you live your life affects me. Driving your Escalade to the 7-11 around the corner for a gallon of milk affects me. And I expect our elected government to act to protect its people. How about basing the price of a gallon of gas on the MPG of the car being fueled? If gas guzzlers had to pay 5.00 to 3.00 for a Honda accord, I'll be you'd see a RAPID improvement in auto technology. As Bill Gates said *If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.*. But the petro industry has its tentacles so deep into our government they do not have to change.

The good-cop-bad-cop ploy by the control freaks in government miss the point. The Supreme Court and the Bush administration only appear to be on different sides. This is illusion. The Supreme Court decision to justify more regulation by overinflated bureaucracy will cost taxpayers more than it will deliver in practical results.

The private automobile is a dying concept, but removing one form of transportation without providing another only exacerbates the problem. Those who can least afford these extra costs will be squeezed out of transportation.

Supporting good public transportation will also reduce global warming over the coming years, give people alternatives to the highly subsidized automotive industry, and reduce dependence on foreign oil.

A more significant contributer to global warming will be the heavily promoted ethanol industry, which represents a net-loss in energy. This is a much more sinister assault on the environment, but the yes-men and women in government and bureaucracy are so busy funding it, they don't want to see the hypocrisy.

Katharine C. Otto, MD
President, Psychiatrists for Sanity
kcottomd@yahoo.com

K Otto,
Very good points. However, the absence of a good public transportation policy, alternate energy technologies (which will be fought by the petro industry) and the like necessitate our governments involvement via regulation. There will be no voluntary change by the global corporations unless they are forced. There will be no investment of the 10 billion in profit Exxon made in the 4th qtr into public transportation. Now if that profit were taxed at 50%, and the money provided to states to create/develop/improve public transportation systems, then we may see some progress. But don't count on the "good intentions" of business to help the situation.

For those who are talking about the British documentary... Even if people who are alarmed by Global Warming were to look onto the other side and read those facts...what is the point of claiming it is not possible? Isnt it better to just help a cause even if it could be a problem then just sit on it?
Would you throw trash on the street on purpose? There is no reason to deny it at this point.

Mr Cohen wrote: "In other words, the Chief Justice wrote, the injuries that could be caused by global warming are so immense, and the means to redress those injuries could be so wide-spread, that any single plaintiff, or group of plaintiffs, can't satisfy the gateway test of standing."

This is such an incredible misrepresentation of Chief Justice Roberts' well-reasoned standing dissent as to cast doubt on Mr. Cohen's intelligence.

Democrats and Republicans share the blame equally.
I feel that we have just opened the door to more problems. I agree that the EPA should be setting the standard nationally; what else would the Environmental Protection agency do? Environment and Protection could be defined as protecting the environment and regulating all things that affect it. We need one clean air requirement. Allowing states to set their own standards will just add on to confusion and cause energy prices to increase as more layers are being added. Let's take the cleanest standard and go with it nationally. We need one clean air standard. Different requirements for each state will just add costs to the consumer in the end. If anyone thinks that the tax paying consumer will not pay for 50+ environmental standards that could potentially affect everything from distribution to manufacturing then they are dead wrong.

To Charles, don't worry about CO2 ruining our economy. I'm sure there is money to be made in cutting emissions.

Besides the Federal deficit is already on its way to ruining the economy and if that doesn't get it something else will (war, pestilence, plague, flood etc).

Who knows, if we hadn't addressed other issues global warming would be moot point.

why try and cure disease or provide clean drinking water? It is just too expensive and the benefits are really there (except to the greedy sciences who get the money to work on these things)

All citizens of the states bringing the suit should stop driving their cars or replace the officials bringing the suit. The environmentalists are ignorant control freaks. They shut down the nuclear power industry and are now going after the automobile industry. The idea that CO2 is a pollutant is insane.

EDF,
Yeah, and how about asbestos causing lung cancer!? Those leftist crazy b*stards just want to ruin this country!

JL You are one of the typically uninformed. Only one special type of asbestos has been proved to cause lung cancer and only if the person was also a smoker.

JL, don't forget that the nuclear power industry has done nothing but improve the life of millions of Americans! I mean, come on, the way that beautiful green glow lights up the night sky so we don't have to look at those horrid stars and think about how very small we are . . .

PLUS, we can use all that nuclear waste to help hasten the coming of Armageddon. Which, as you may or may not know, is the ultimate goal of our civilization. What else could the goal be in a culture based on texts that clearly state a beginning, middle, and end to humanity?

While we're at it, let's just salt the earth.

EDF, Keep making up "facts", they're very enjoyable to read! "Only if he is a smoker"? Wow, so every scientific study that states that smoking is an aggravating factor is wrong. Only ONE type?!!:

Identification

Asbestos is generally made up of fiber bundles which easily separate into long, thin fibers. Positive identification of a specific fiber type requires microscopic analysis and examination. All asbestos fibers are hazardous to human health.
Common Asbestos Types

The three most common types of fibers are:

* Chrysotile (white asbestos): A white curly fiber, chrysotile accounts for 90% of asbestos in products and is a member of the serpentine group. It is a magnesium silicate.
* Amosite: Brown or gray, straight amosite fibers belong in the amphibole group, and contain iron and magnesium.
* Crocidolite (Riebeckite): A member of the amphibole group, crocidolite takes the form of blue, straight fibers. It is a sodium iron magnesium silicate.

Uninformed? Hey Pot, this is the kettle! Typical global warming denier. Just keep making up facts, throw them against the wall and hope the sh*t sticks.

test

"They shut down the nuclear power industry and are now going after the automobile industry."

The nuclear power industry was shut down because it's economically inefficient for one thing. Without HEAVY government subsidies, there's no profit to be made with nukes. Govt subsidies require public support, and when weighed against the risks of a single accident, the public says no.

"This is such an incredible misrepresentation of Chief Justice Roberts' well-reasoned standing dissent as to cast doubt on Mr. Cohen's intelligence."

I've said it before and I'll say it again- when you try to throw out a case based on standing, it's because you know darn well the side you want to win can't win on the merits of the case. It's Robert's calling card on too many issues.

Charles Hendrix wrote:

>It is turns out that human contribution to
>global warming is trivial (I'm of that mind) >and in the meantime we wreck our economy
>over CO2 emissions, then our children and
>grandchildren will pay the price.

You may be entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts. The science of global warming is as settled as the Bohr atom so quit pretending there remains doubt to allow your stated view. There isn't any such doubt.

Proceeding to your second lie, the idea that responding to this threat will "wreck the economy." There is no evidence of this and there is substantial evidence to the contrary. In many ways our effect on the environment reflects inefficiency and reducing that effect means increasing our efficiency, and that usually falls under the category of "good things."

You Busheviks need to learn some basic science. But that would mean learning some logic and then you'd probably implode.

I so sick of you so-called "conservatives" spewing forth the mindless, anti-scientic garbage you hear on talk radio every day. GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT A RELIGION. BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IS A RELIGIOUS IMPERATIVE! Apparently, you have never read the words of religious leaders like the Patriarch of Constantinople who make it clear that disrupting the order of our planet is a sin.

Of course, all scientists will never agree on everthing, but conservatives-of all people-should realize our policy should be built around what is true all or most of the time. And MOST sceintists are telling us global warming is real and man-made, not to mention the real world experiences of people like myself who live in northern areas and have seen winter disappear the past 20 years. But apparently you girly-man conservatives are too weak to actually go outside in the winter. If you did, the realities of global warming would be self-evident.

Oh, by the way, I'm not some liberal. I'm probably more conservative than most anti-intellectual modern conservatives. I've just taken the time read Kirk, Burke, and Weaver and other conservatives thinkers. What? You Rush and Hannity zombies never heard of them. Well, pick up a book and learn. True conservatism is not at odds with environmental protection! Not that it matters to you entertainment conservatives that make up the modern movement.

Scientists work by discussing and arguing points of theory and testing hypotheses. There are some scientists who debate the exact nature and reason for global warming. But the vast majority consensus of environmental scientists is that global warming is here, it is observable, it is fitting well with projections of models and it is caused almost exclusively by greenhouse gases emitted by our industries, our transportation and our farming practices. Believe me, getting a bunch of scientists to agree on something because of a "conspiracy" is absolutely counter to the way scientists work and think. They are by nature questioners and skeptics. To have the consensus we have now from environmental scientists should be good enough for us to take action to avoid destroying human life.

Dissenting Supreme Court Justices Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia (hereafter, collectively, by the RATS acronym) need a breath of fresh air. But I think that RATS will not willingly abandon Bush's sinking ship of state.

"But apparently you girly-man conservatives are too weak to actually go outside in the winter."

Posted by: Pat Heaney | April 3, 2007 03:44 PM

Pat, please stop perpetuating these gender-based insults. They make you appear stupider than you probably are.

Those who trivialize the human contribution to global warming should remember "the straw that broke the camel's back."

No worries, our so-called conservative American patriots will imprison dissenting Americans before they would allow anything to harm big oil's profits. There's probably a clause in the Patriot Act to allow it.

One can't reason with the unreasonable. That's the great head-bashing conundrum. Fools make up their own facts and don't really know the difference from hard science, because, well, they are fools. In a perfect world these fools wouldn't make it into the upper echelons of government; but no one promised perfection. "Animal Farm" is a good metaphorical summation of the human plight.

"Animal Farm" is also an apt reference in the Orwellian world of the present administration.

Pat, please stop perpetuating these gender-based insults. They make you appear stupider than you probably are.

Posted by: little pebble | April 3, 2007 03:55 PM

I'm sorry you are so sensitive and lack a sense of humor. If I sound stupid-so be it, but I sure as heck will not conform my langauge to current "sensibilities."

Doesn't ultimate Republican insider and Bush buddy Jack Abramoff make a great pig?

There are many pigs at the trough of this administration, including the former chairman of Halliburton, protected by the thin veil of a blind trust. It has been called the most corrupt of any administration in American history. Harding and Teapot Dome may pale in comparison when the truth is told.

Most of the comments above miss the point. The case was not about the global warming agument, it was about the meaning of the act passed by Congress and signed into law. The majority held the law actually means what it says, that the EPA is required to carry out the provisions of the law. The minority held the EPA may ignore the law.

Global warming is not an agrument, it is a thing decided by an overwhelming majority of qualified scientists. The RATS minority chose to interject arguments that the global nature of warming does not create standing, and to otherwise obfuscate the responsibility of the EPA.

You Busheviks need to learn some basic science. But that would mean learning some logic and then you'd probably implode. Posted by: Chris Fox | April 3, 2007 03:26 PM Because their heads are empty or because their hearts are so cold ? Suppose it doesn't matter.

Two points.

1. To say the science is squishy is to fundamentally misrepresent the nature of experimental design and the theories which arise therefrom. To prove Global Warming is to assume the null hypothesis, Global Cooling or Global Same-old Same-old are true. When the data shows the null hypothesis to be false then there you have it! Or, as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, (Sherlock Holmes) put it *...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.*. The EPA is plumb out of impossibilities.

2. As far as the impending economic destruction of life as we know it: Lighten up. Regulations have never been required to "follow" the science. A drunk driving conviction does not hinge on wine or Wild Turkey and the considerable difference in alcohol content. For another example, the sentance you'll get for crack (Cocaine Free Base + Salt) or blow (Cocaine HCl) has no basis in Chemistry. Legislatures have to be obeyed, scientific or not.

I'm sorry you are so sensitive and lack a sense of humor. If I sound stupid-so be it, but I sure as heck will not conform my langauge to current "sensibilities."

Posted by: Pat Heaney | April 3, 2007 04:23 PM

"girly-man" is only funny when Arnold Schwarzenegger says it.

Def: sensibilities: capacity for intellectual and aesthetic distinctions, feelings, tastes, etc.: a man of refined sensibilities.

No, I guess you wouldn't understand.

Global Warming and some observations about searching out FACTS!

W.J.D., Tom, Midwesterner, et al, If you MUST rely on a 'British Documentary'[?] about the 'Great Global Warming Swindle video on 'youtube.com', I suggest that you scroll down the video titles a bit further and you will find that video being exposed as a fake 'expose'. If you want factual data from reputable scientists then use Google to search out textual scientific papers, presented at scientific meetings and presented for publication, then you will find facts about Global Warming and the looming world-wide disasters , the probable famine, drought, and inundations of low-lying lands currently occupied by humans; billions of humans. This is the "Doomsday" scenario facing us, all of us, unless we make our governments act to reduce CO2 pollution being pumped into our atmosphere 24x7. Global warming is no longer a debatable issue; the Oil Industry Oligarchy can no longer pay fraudulent 'scientists' to produce papers casting doubt on the real scientists or their finding - look that us in Google also.

Give some rational thought to what 'MIGHT' has caused the geometric increases in CO2 within the last 50 even 100 years. Consider the example used by the post above that ridicules the effects of automobile pollution. Stop and think for a moment sir, take a shot at the math and try calculating how many autos in America x people + avg cars per family, usage and fuel efficiency [[HINT efficiency is an inverse of pollution]given the number of gas guzzling SUVs. [HINT - LA was smog free until mid-20th century]
Once you get that UGLY factoid generalize that number to the rest of the industrialized world considering that American is in the last place for automobile fuel efficiency but offset that by the nations without any pollution control at all such as India, China, most of Africa, etc. Is it possible that the unburned hydrocarbons spewing out of every automobile tailpipe 'MIGHT' be a major factor in the equation?

I'm not preaching, nor am I Global Warming prophet parading around Times Square in robes and sandal with a sign saying the 'End is Near' but I believe that rational people everywhere across the world devote thought and then action to limit the manmade and discharged 'Greenhouse gases' that are the causative factors. I want my grandchildren and their children to live in a world similar, but cleaner than the one we live in right now and will continue my efforts to change my lifestyle and try to get others to do likewise. I don't have the time or patience to deal with dupes and fools that blindly accept the words of Oil Industry paid charlatans casting doubts or nay saying about Global Warming; factual scientific data is available on the Internet - factual data on scientists and their credentials is also there and if there are 1000 scientists presenting papers on evidence and 10 that are casting doubts on both the evidence and the scientists - Which are you going to believe? If you pick the 10 - WHY?

"The minority held the EPA may ignore the law."

Actually, the minority held 'yeah, this is a huge problem and yeah, the EPA is probably supposed to do something about it, but we believe nobody is allowed to bring suit to enforce the law, so the law itself is basically meaningless no matter what Congress' intent was.'

CO2 is now a pollutant. Great. All believers can help the global warming problem by holding their breath.

Starting now.

factoid # 1 There are almost as many cars as there are people in the u.s.a.Each car emits 5 tons of co2 a year (average).An inconvenient truth,no doubt.

volcano, man-made co2, whatever. at the end of the day, nature is not a free trash dump. never has been, never will. we americans these days cry and moan too much, and use regulation and government as scapegoats. big 3 balk at eco-friendly cars, so the japanese go and make a business out of hybrids and gas-sipping cars, cementing their status as economic and manufacturing powerhouses.

this generation of Americans who so disdain science and favor controversy, name-calling etc., basically yapping about how we can't do this because of that, just consider that we are pretty worthless compared to generations of past that we're shouldering on. the people who won wwii, went to moon, treated science and art with the respect and support that it deserves, giving us the united states of america that we got today, and actually spent time to sit down and read a newspaper vs. yelling mouthpieces on tv.

we're relying on the hard work, science, and policies that our grandparents laid for us and have pretty much come to a standstill since. hawks should stop making excuses for why we can't do something constructive (vs. 100% rah-rah flag-waving support for the destructive) and begin to take responsbility for the crud we put out for nature to dispose as though it should be obligated to pick up after our cr*p w/o consequences. full of naivete and dogmatic bs. as the old saying goes, there ain't no free lunches, and it's about time we stop pretending otherwise.

"I'm a Uniter, Not a Divider."

- Gov. George W. Bush, 2/29/00

Global warming, just like everything else in this country (e.g., war, healthcare, gay marriage) has become split, seemingly irrevocably, along partisan lines.

Why can't people take a short break from being liberals and conservatives, inhale a deep breath of fresh air (to use a pun), and think about what's best for this country and the future of its people?

Today, we fight along partisan lines because we don't have the guts or will to use good sense and logic. We refuse to admit failure in our leaders because it would mean admitting failure in ourselves (we elected them, right?).

Please, fellow Americans, get over yourselves. I know that I'm trying...

It's not what's best for this country and its people, it's what's best for this planet and our specie.

In truth, on second thought, the planet may be better off without our specie.

Shiloh, I was making a broader point.

And yes, it is about this country and its people. While I'd love for the world to be one big happy place, I'll settle for the American Government looking out after the interests of - and listening to - the American people. And if we can come together to set the "right" example globally for issues such as global warming, so much the better.

BTW, "specie" means coined money. So if your advocating the abolision of pennies, I wholeheartedly agree. A waste of pocket space, zinc, and copper.

hay,
Isn't this REAL debate, the comments from Post readers, refreshing. This spirit of future solving dialogue sounds good to me. I even hear going green will create jobs and divert the bullets from flying in foreign oil fields. What a loss to our national pride--of fighting for something. We can save lives and not die for oil. Good.

JL,
We mistakenly think government should force Exxon et al. to pay for public transportation. However, taxpayers pay government over and over for the same services, but only get nominal caricatures, because government is funnelling taxpayer money into cushy government contracts for the megacorporations, including Exxon. That's why Exxon, et al. are able to generate such huge profits. Taxpayers need to force GOVERNMENT, not the private industries, to shift funding to public transportation. When you consider how much taxpayer money goes to subsidize the automotive industry, you will realize shifting funding sends a signal that government works for the people, and not the other way around.

Katharine Otto

Global warming (climate change) is real.
Human causality of it is NOT.
The EPA has resisted getting involved in regulating CO2 emissions because carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a vital component of our atmosphere. Just think where all life would be without the stuff!
Meanwhile, the debate does still rage on regarding true causality of climate change. It is still to be settled if the chicken or the egg came first. It is not nearly so easily discerned as horse-first or cart-first.

Another tragic consequence of our carbon footprint as reported by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FOA) of the United Nations...
===
3 April 2007, Rome - World cereal production in 2007 is forecast to increase 4.3 percent to a record 2 082 million tonnes, according to the April issue of FAO's Crop Prospects and Food Situation report.

The bulk of the increase is expected in maize, with a bumper crop already being gathered in South America, and a sharp increase in plantings expected in the United States, according to the report. A significant rise in wheat output is also foreseen, with a recovery in some major exporting countries after weather problems last year.

FAO forecasts coarse grains production to rise 5.6 percent to 1 033 million tonnes, and wheat to increase 4.8 percent to about 626 million tonnes. Global rice production in 2007 could rise marginally to 423 million tonnes in milled terms, about 3 million tonnes more than in 2006, FAO says.
===

C02 - Nature's airborne fertilizer

The balance of the evidence is that global warming is a) real and b) largely human caused. Based on that it seems sensible to make changes to reduce greenhouse gas emissions as quickly as possible. This may or may not have significant net economic costs, and if it does, that is the price we pay for avoiding the much greater costs of dramatic climate change.

But nothing in the future is absolutely certain. If I am wrong, our children and grandchildren will live in a world where the GDP is a couple of per cent lower than it could have been.

If climate change deniers are wrong and we do nothing, our children and grandchildren will live in a world that is immeasurably poorer, economically, socially and ethicly. (Why ethicly? Because the damage and loss of life will be overwhelmingly among the poorest in the world - those who will have done least to cause the problem.)

It really doesn't seem like all that tough a choice.

Take care, eh?

It appears to me that the dissenters in this decision are basically saying that "the problem is so huge we should not hold our regulatory agencies accountable." What claptrap! The safest and sanest course is to reduce emissions and behave as though we have some responsibility to the world and future generations. Throwing millions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere as we are now doing is stupid. The technology to change this exists and if we apply it will actually benefit business in the long run. The people who espouse the dissenting view are in the service of big business and take a very short view. We should not let them determine our future; those so-called conservatives are not our friends.

No, the dissenters (preferrably called defiers) claim that humans haven't caused climate change, so trying to reverse it or its effects is pointless. Lets adapt to the change just the way our ancestors have done for countless generations.
Polluting the planet is stupid. Lets clean it up. Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, so don't bother with that.
If you condemn all the means by which carbon dioxide has been pumped into the atmosphere, then you are essentially claiming that every advance realized by the industrial and technology revolutions has been a mistake.
I don't buy that.

It ain't black and white. Too much water in the wrong place is a pollutant, too much oxygen in the wrong place is dangerous and explosive. Too much carbon dioxide is not good for the temperature of the planet. We may not be the sole source but that doesn't mean we have to keep pumping large amounts and contributing to problem. No one is claiming that EVERY advance realized by the the tech/industry revolution is a MISTAKE! Framing it that way is absurd. Refusing to put your mouth over the tail pipe of a truck doesn't mean you think truck exhaust is good for you! Of course humans CAN affect the environment. Of course there are other forces too. Just because sewers and drains get clogged with leaves and overflow in heavy rains is not an argument for not having sewers and drains! This is not a Left/Right partisan issue. The Corporations/Business world wants you to think so as a distraction. Lets all smarten up, eh!

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