Democrats Struggle With Ethics Bill

Democratic leaders in the House are still struggling to find support within their party for an ethics bill they promised to pass when they took over Congress.

Just hours after House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said yesterday morning that a bill to reform the ethics process would be on the House floor today, Democratic leaders decided to delay the measure yet again because they still couldn't rally enough Democratic support to push it through.

Hoyer said last night that the bill would not come up today, punting the issue until at least next week. That move came a week after Democrats canceled a scheduled vote on the measure following an internal revolt against it, and after the measure's author, Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.), had made changes that the leadership had hoped would be enough to bring members on board.

The bill would create a new Office of Congressional Ethics to screen potential complaints against members and forward ones deserving further scrutiny to the existing Committee on Standards of Official Conduct for its consideration. The new office would be run by a bipartisan board of six non-members who would be jointly appointed by the Speaker and the Minority Leader.

But while Democrats tweaked the bill's language -- specifically adding a requirement that the ethics office could only begin to review a matter if at least one Democrat and one Republican agreed on it -- a large number of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are still opposed to the very idea of creating a new outside office at all.

Republicans have complained that creating the office would just add an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy to the process, and that the real problem is the existing ethics committee, which regularly gets bogged down in partisan gridlock, moves slowly and operates almost entirely in secret. And many Democrats worry that the new office will be unaccountable and possibly tarnish members' reputations through its actions.

Having worked for weeks to rally support, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) now faces a choice. She can further tweak the bill and bring the weight of her office to bear on members in hopes of pushing it through, likely on a narrow, mostly party-line vote. Or she can admit defeat, jettison the proposal for a new idea and start from scratch, possibly working off of the alternative proposals that have been floated. We should know by next week which path she will take.

By Ben Pershing |  March 6, 2008; 1:17 PM ET Ethics and Rules
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The Democrats need to change their leadership. The Pelosi-Hoyer era should have been over before it even started.

Posted by: Blain45 | March 6, 2008 4:13 PM

i think the republicans' idea seems better (reforming what you've got). if the process is already to slow, this proposal will augment that. the fact that the SOC isn't really an open process is ridiculous.

Posted by: ms. kluff | March 6, 2008 5:12 PM

That is all we need is another committee to waste time investigating some member. They din't do their job now, so what is going to change when they get another one.? Nothing but gridlock, justt like they have now.What they need to do is find the most honarable and honest people they can find[which would be hard to do] and appoint them as the comittee.Two from each party, and rotate chairmans every qyarter.

Posted by: elmerck | March 6, 2008 9:16 PM

Hillary's 3 a.m. scare ad suggests that Barack Obama is not ready to lead in a crisis.

Hillary also suggests that maybe Obama could be her running mate, which means, if they are successful, he would be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

So what is it, Hillary?

Is Obama ready to be president and you are just distorting his record in order to win the top slot?

And, if you really don't believe he is ready "on day one" to be president and you are nonetheless dangling the vice presidency as a sweetner and an excuse for stealing this nomination, then you are not a serious national security candidate.

So what is it, Hillary, are you so unpatriotic so as to put the country at risk?

Or do you not believe your own claims about Obama's alleged unpreparedness and are thus a liar?

The Straight Talk Express has left the station ... and Barack Obama is at the wheel.

Obama/Webb, '08

[Because hope and national security go hand in hand.]

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | March 6, 2008 10:50 PM

just becuase a large number of members are unethical is no reason to jettison ethics reforms. we citizens should demand congressional ethics reform with complaints by citizens rather than back scratching bipartisan do nothingism

Posted by: djw3505 | March 8, 2008 1:04 AM

A "democracy" will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the "most benefits" from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage


In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.

Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare.

Follow:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the 'governmental dependency' phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can
say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Posted by: BLUEFLORIDA | March 10, 2008 12:45 PM

BLUEFLORIDA,

What does your posting have to do with Pershing's article? Or, for that matter, the price of onions in Madagascar? (Just a minor quibble . . .) Oh, you just want to rant! I get it . . .

Do square miles of land vote? Apparently you believe we should disenfranchise those poor, benighted people who happen to live in the God-forsaken, welfare-leech-infested, high-murder-rate, next-thing-to-Sodom-and-Gomorrah urban counties. City people are, apparently in your view, both too stupid and morally suspect to have their votes counted. Gee, and to think that I believed Gore's winning the popular vote (which he did, for the record) but not the presidency didn't quite _feel_ right!!

Wow! What an enlightened view of democracy you have!!! I should feel great: I live in a rural county in a rural state (really, I do), so my vote should count for more than, let's say, my daughter's vote (she lives in a major city--really, she does). I feel so much better now that you've shed light on the subject! Thanks for sending us the "one-person-one-vote idea is a crock" memo.

Posted by: jfbdma | March 10, 2008 10:24 PM

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