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Posted at 7:41 AM ET, 04/20/2007

Morning Mix: Alec Baldwin Lashes Out at 11-Year-Old Daughter

By Liz Kelly

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being. I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone." -- Alec Baldwin on his 11-year-old daughter's voicemail | Audio (Warning: Not safe for work)

"I am praying for my father. We have never had a good relationship. It's sad that all the men that have been in my life do not know how to accept a real woman's love. I am concentrating on my work and my life right now." -- Britney Spears responds to her father's criticism of her recent decisions

Headlines: List of sexiest entertainers includes Justin Timberlake, Jessica Alba, David Beckham... Sanjaya Malakar to attend White House Correspondents Dinner... Sharon Osbourne replacing Brandy on "America's Got Talent"... David Arquette shaves movie promo into his hair... Jessica Alba is new face of Revlon... Corey Haim and Corey Feldman launch advice column... Jury selected for Phil Spector trial.

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By Liz Kelly  | April 20, 2007; 7:41 AM ET
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Comments

Not too impressed with Baldwin's language, but he does have a valid point:

Kim Basinger and her lawyer(s) really have no respect for the law and have violated the court order (again). According to the last paragraph of the WP article, Basinger seems to making it a habit of ignoring the court:

"Basinger was charged with contempt of court in October for violating terms of a 2004 custody agreement. A motion by her lawyers to dismiss the charges was denied Wednesday in Los Angeles Superior Court. The next hearing on visitation issues is scheduled for May 4."

Making the judge angry at you is not a good move, Kim.

Posted by: SoMD | April 20, 2007 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Liz - that Russian billionaire is paying more than you think: it's not a million *dollars*, it's a million *POUNDS*.

This morning, 1,000,000 GBP = 2,007,800 USD.

Posted by: byoolin | April 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Always thought Alec Baldwin was an *ssh*l*. "I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass" is part of the reason she dumped him though, and it will NEVER be the right thing to say to a child.

Posted by: soso | April 20, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Byoolin -- thanks. I meant to change that $ symbol to £!

Posted by: Liz | April 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

My sympathy is with Baldwin. Maybe not the best language, but, as the mother of two teens, I completely sympathize with being frustrated with rude and disrespectful behavior. As to Ms. Basinger -- pfft! She seems to make a full time career out of acting like a witch. Releasing this tape was just unnecessary and hateful. What was to be accomplished? Embarassing Baldwin, yes. But at the cost of a clear defiance of the court order? Lock her up! (BTW -- Are we sure that*s him? The audio really doesn't sound like him.)

Posted by: Jayne | April 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone."

You know, you leave that message on voicemail, and you can be sure it's going to be used to humiliate you at least once more.

Posted by: BF | April 20, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Calling your little girl a rude, thoughtless little pig. Yikes. I thought my dad was harsh...

Posted by: wow | April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Lovely, Alec. Yeah, Kim should not have released the tape. But, did you see the horrid things HE said about her doing it? Calling the mother of your child names when the judge is considering cutting off all your contact with your child is never a good mood. Face it, the kid is the grown up one in this mess.

Corey Haim and Corey Feldman launching an advice column? For whom, Paris and Lindsay on how to tank your careers before they really get going?

Posted by: ep | April 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

First, Kim Basinger or is it Basinger, had no right to release that tape. It should have been a private family matter and says more about her charactor than Alec Baldwin's. Second, since when is David Beckham an "entertainer"? I thought he was an athlete.

Posted by: dym | April 20, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin is f*@#king nut who should lose visitation rights. He has damaged his relationship with his daughter. If I was his child there no way in hell I would call him or see him.

Note: The Britany Spears quote will be Ireland Baldwin stated when she enters rehab.

Posted by: Lisa1 | April 20, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I love Alec Baldwin. He can do no wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Basinger releasing this makes me sympathies with Baldwin. I can't stand Baldwin, I wont watch anything he is in (he's one of the actors I love to hate for no other reason than just because) but he should be able to spend time with his daughter unimpeded and from everything I have every read or heard about this, Basinger has done everything she can to keep them apart. I NEVER thought I would feel sorry for Baldwin, but I do!

Posted by: M | April 20, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I was never a fan of Kim Basinger. Her character and role in "Cool World" is probably the closest of who she really is, and her career.

What's the context behind this? Why is Baldwin calling his daughter a "thoughtless little pig?" Did I miss something and is he the father of Lindsey Lohan?

"You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone" makes it sound like far more has happened than the WP relates, and that Baldwin's outburst is simply the last act in a long ordeal.

Posted by: Ken | April 20, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

" Virgie Arthur has son with her stepbrother" and I'm my own Grandpa.

Posted by: Big East | April 20, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

What was the purpose of broadcasting this personal and private message with the rest of the world? Obviously, this thoughtless little pig (and her mother) wants Daddy to look really bad to the rest of the world. Most parents have called their own kids much worse. Get off Alex's back and leave him alone.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Baldwin that Bassinger released it to the media; she will be as guilty as he is for messing up that poor little girl, most assuredly destined to be a future topic of Celebritology and subject of eleven-point plan that Liz will have to put together for Ireland's own good.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Funny thing about being a celebrity, famous and rich. You live your life in front of everyone and whether you like it or not you become a role model. It never ceases to amaze me why the Britney's, Baldwin's, Basingers of this world don't get this. If you don't want to be openly critisized for how you live your life, don't become a celebrity.

Posted by: Sharon | April 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Sad that at the center of the phone message was an 11-year-old child. As much as I love this column, I don't think it was necessary for the Celebritologists to take advantage of a smear campaign of Alec Baldwin when it involves a kid.

Posted by: JB | April 20, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

The moral to this story is when Alec Baldwin calls, answer the phone. But seriously this is kind of a pot and kettle situation. He's saying she doesn't have the brains and decency to pick up but he's leaving a nasty message for a child. Hearing your dad say something like that about you at any age has got to do some emotional damage. Then having it broadcast to the world.

Brit praying for her dad? Shouldn't that be the other way around?

The Coreys are launching an advice column. Come again.

Posted by: petal | April 20, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that so far the majority of celebritology fans are siding with Baldwin. I am too! I love him and Basinger's craziness has been documented for many years. I feel bad for AB for having to go through all of this.

Posted by: KG | April 20, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

His anger is misdirected at the kid when it should be at the mother. Not acceptable to tell your 11 year old kid that she is a bad human being. Hardcore but smart to release the tape-what judge would allow him unsupervised liberal visitation with that tape floating around in the public? You can't threaten your kid like that and expect for it to remain private.He's lucky if they don't get a restraining order.

Posted by: 11 year old seeking phone lesson from Naomi Campbell | April 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

$4,000 on underwear?!?!?!?!?!

I guess I should feel more sheepish about buying cheap boxers at Old Navy...

Posted by: Thin Man | April 20, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Think maybe he thought the mom would pick up the message?

Posted by: I wonder | April 20, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin is obviously a jerk with an out of control temper. The way he treats his child is contemptible, and there are no excuses for the way he lashed out at her. He should be ashamed and embarrassed.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being. I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child"

An adult temper tantrum is not the best way to show that one has "the brains or the decency as a human being" either.

Posted by: M | April 20, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

i absolutely can't stand alec baldwin (except in 30 rock where he's brilliant with jack mcbrayer.) he was wrong, wrong, wrong to speak to his daughter like that. but (and you knew there'd be a 'but'...) i blame basinger for making it public and in the process further harming their daughter. it might take years to undo the damage from his rant and her mom releasing the tape, even if she deserved it (and as the mom of three grown children, sometimes they deserve it though one should never say it.)
the whole thing is so sad in light of what happened this week. you never know when it's too late to take something back or to make amends. sorry to be debbie downer but that's how it is. terribly, terribly sad. and don't you know alec baldwin is horrified that what he said has been made public. i never thought i'd feel sorry for him but i do.

Posted by: methinks | April 20, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

he should be horrified that he said it, not just that he got caught. No dog in this fight, I don't care for either AB or KB

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I have no sympathies for Alec Baldwin or Kim Basinger. Custody of Ireland Baldwin should go to third party because Alec and Kim are incapable of being civil towards each other and putting the child's interest ahead of theirs. Kim Basinger was wrong for release the tape to make her anger-crazed ex-husband look bad and Alec Baldwin can't control his anger.

The only person who needs sympathy is the family court judge who has to decide the custody hearing.

Posted by: NYC | April 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

they're both nuts. tmz said that ireland "was ok with" releasing the tape, so she's obviously being seriously manipulated by her mom. it's a shame she's being put in the middle of their p***ing contest.

Posted by: b | April 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

First questions for the Coreys- Why should anyone care what you have to say?

Posted by: seenEnuf | April 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin, who politics I detest, I so great on 30 Rock. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: John | April 20, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin is a documented hot head with an over inflated ego. He has been documented numerous times throwing fits and yelling at people. How do you think he acts with his kid and previously with Kim Bassinger when no one is/was around?

I do not know much about Kim. You all say she is crazy, but I've never seen a clip of her screaming and yelling at police officers or other people. Can you give some examples of her craziness? I do feel sorry for the little girl.

Posted by: Irish girl | April 20, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

By the way, why does Heather Mills go to England to visit her daughter? Shouldn't she pack up little Bea for the duration and take her to California to watch mummy perform? Does Bea get to stay with her daddy while mum's in Cali? Or with her horrid nanny? Just wondering..

Posted by: methinks | April 20, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

From Wiki:

"Basinger suffers from agoraphobia, which is a form of an anxiety disorder, the abnormal fear of expecting or experiencing a difficult or embarrassing situation from which the sufferer cannot find an escape."

Posted by: Encyclopedia Jones | April 20, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty pathetic how some of you are defending Alec Baldwin's treatment of his own daughter. All the excuses and rationalizations you're making on his behalf. Geez, I feel sorry for your kids.

Posted by: Fred | April 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Wiki isn't always the most accurate of sources so I generally don't take their info @ face value.

As Jayne said, are we even sure it's him? It sounds like a bad impression of Alec Baldwin.

Posted by: Bored @ work | April 20, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

An adult who would talk to anyone, let alone a child, like that doesn't deserve visitation with the family dog, never mind his adolescent daughter. There is NEVER any excuse to be that abusive to someone powerless to respond. It is possible to condemn a person's behavior without abusing said person.

Poor Ireland. If I were her fairy godmother, she'd be in a home where the adults actually acted like adults rather than like spoiled rotten children. At the very least, the judge should assign her an attorney ad litem to look after *her* interests, rather than her parents'.

Posted by: Kate | April 20, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Yikes- Alec! Even though that nut-job,ex-wife of his is obviously vindictive and manipulative, he should refrain from the abusive verbal assault on his daughter. I feel badly for the daugher but hope somehow she won't become like the trainwreck that is Britney Spears who thinks it is her family's fault for her problems.

Posted by: plamar1031 | April 20, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Parents no longer teach courtesy, manners, self respect, tolerance, patience, or self-sacrifice. As a baby boomer, it horrifies me to see things like Alex Balwin's comments, The Virginia Tech massacre, and the hate and violence that seems to abound these days. I was once told that "IF you do not love yourself, how can others love you?" You shouldn't be a doormat for others to walk all over, but neither should you hurt others. What goes around comes around is an old, but very true saying.

Posted by: From another time & place | April 20, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

You're actually blaming the things wrong in the world on non-Boomers? Really? Boomers are off the hook? Not running this country into the worst deficit in years with a daily body count in the hundreds? Not inciting world hatred through overconsumption and the imposition of American values as if there were universal values? Not responsible for global warming on a massive scale? Not raising the kids that you're blaming for not raising their children right?

Huh.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Baldwin obviously has a temper, but it would be worse if he didn't care. It's hard for a non-custodial parent to maintain a relationship with a child. Baldwin is trying. I hope he follows up on his threat to fly cross-country for a day to remind his daughter of his existence. Ms. Basinger owes it to her daughter and her daughter's father to do what's necessary at her end to have the girl by the phone when she's supposed to be.

Posted by: Richard | April 20, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin is a sanctamonious, liberal piece of fecal matter. I hope that he loses visitation rights- loses his job- and dies penniless and alone.

Posted by: jpc | April 20, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"sanctimonious"

Posted by: jpc | April 20, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

i have to clarify an earlier statement i made re: alec baldwin's comments. naturally he should be horrified he made the comments, not just that he was exposed. but as a parent who has raised three children to adulthood, there are loads of things i would love to take back. i never said anything quite so vicious as his comments toward ireland, but does that really matter? i still needed to apologize, ask my child's forgiveness and then demonstrate that i was truly sorry, and try to behave like the adult i supposedly was.
the fact is, children push parent's buttons. apparently ex's do too. alec baldwin made a terrible, terrible mistake which, giving him the benefit of the doubt, he probably regretted as soon as he said it. it's a shame his ex wife decided to make it public b/c it surely doesn't help the situation.

Posted by: methinks | April 20, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

For all you people know, the phone message is out of context. The beginning may have been omitted. THe end may have been omitted. Sure seems like it considering it doesn't make sense as it is. "with this phone" ?? Or was it perhaps something like "with this phone game your mother is playing?"

Posted by: Arby | April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

It's actually NONE of our business. But I side with Alec.

Posted by: Marni | April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

$4000 is outrageous, but heck, at least Posh WEARS underwear.

It never ceases to amaze me how men find Paris Hilton in any way appealing, let alone kissable. Ewwww.

The Virgie Arthur/stepbrother thing is even grosser than Paris Hilton, and that's sayin' something!

Posted by: Ick Factor | April 20, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

This is a guy that threatened to assault a sitting Congressman (We should just go and stone Henry Hyde to death!), and you libs thought that was great because he was defending your Lecher in Chief at the time.
Now, some of you more sensible ones should see that the man is dangerous and needs to be treated psychologically.

Posted by: MB | April 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It is incomprehensible that there are people on this forum actually defending Mr. Baldwin's behavior.
Regardless of how messy this divorce and custody battle is, his behavior is simply inexcusable.

This abusive verbal attack speaks to Mr. Baldiwn's character - this vicious and hateful rant directed at his 11 year old daughter because she failed to pick up the phone (perhaps through no fault of her own) reflects a shocking level of malignant narcissism.
This man should not be around children - ever - period.

Posted by: Dave | April 20, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

My God!! What an unbelievable monster! Someone should take that vile child abusing creep aside and beat the sh*t out of him! Anyone who suffered abuse as a child would recognize that threatening tone and bullying manner.

Baldwin should have a restraining order placed on him. I feel so sorry for that little girl.

Posted by: Joe | April 20, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Alec Baldwin blew his top. But as a parent I have to say I know how he feels. Yes, he needs to apologize for using those horrible words and berating his child. But he doesn't need to beat himself up forever about it. He made a big mistake. I can't help feel sorry for his daughter and for him. Parenting is tough, and I can only imagine the diffficulty of raising a child on two coasts, with two parents who obviously despise one another, and under a court order besides. He didn't put his daughter's feelings first, and I hope he will learn from this public humiliation and put her first next time. Twelve is a very delicate age for a girl. (I encourage Mr. Baldwin to read a copy of "Reviving Ophelia".) And speaking of public humiliation, how dare his ex leak the voice mail message. This is a private, family matter. All families may face similar situations, but not in public. I hope they are all getting counseling or therapy. The poor daughter is really going to need it.

Posted by: Susan Z | April 20, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Poor Ireland. I wouldn't want to talk to him either.

I wouldn't want my self esteem smashed to bits and have to perform like a trained circus pig to keep him from raging and tearing me down. I wonder if he kicks animals behind closed doors.

It will be interesting to find out who supplied that recording. It could have been from someone other than Kim Basinger, like a court employee, a paralegal, DCF worker or whoever.

Posted by: NoIdea | April 20, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Alec telling it like it is !! Baldwin is trying to hold his daughter accountable for her actions - it doesn't matter that she is 11. In fact, lessons need to be learned at that formative age. I know plenty of "tweens" that don't have the decency or brains of a human being. Maybe if someone sat them down and gave them an earful, like good ole Alec did, they wouldn't act they way they do. I got newfound respect for the guy.

Posted by: Chris | April 20, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Baldwin is right. He is a human being and obviously was pushed to the limit.
He made it clear that he has done all he could as far as he is allowed to do by the law and Bassinger.
Bassinger should teach Ireland to show some respect for her dad.
All you self-righteous pompous people who condemn him should first feel his pain, and go through what he is going through and STILL then, God gives you NO right to judge this father of a rude kid.
I think he presented his case well and for being human, the "perfect" ones are now condemning him. Give me a break!

Posted by: A parent of accomplished well behaved children | April 20, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I think Baldwin has the right to be upset, I have made my parents say many things they probably regret but at the time I deserved it.

It sounds like a guy who is trying hard to do the right thing but is being denied the opportunity.

Posted by: Jack | April 20, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

i believe any parent has the right to rebuke his kid...but for everything there is a limit, bounderies.calling her daughter little pig was a little too much and by all meanings painfull.i have a 13 daughter of my own and i would never treat her in such way

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Re: the Alex Baldwin tape

If this isn't an example of truly horrendous parenting by a man with narcissistic personality disorder, I don't know what is.

Keep that man away from that little girl and boycott his movies.

Posted by: LKI | April 20, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

What amazes me about the Alec's rant is that he doesn't know how old his daughter is "I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old" How much can he really care about the kid?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey! No Friday list?

Posted by: So bored | April 20, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

>>God gives you NO right to judge this father of a rude kid.<<

Who are *you* to tell us God's opinion - when you claim to speak for Him you are putting yourself on His level - which is both foolish and arrogant.

As to your characterization of this 11 year old child as 'rude'- her 'offense' was that she did not pick up a telephone.

Listen again to Mr. Baldwin's vicious attack on his daughter. Don't just read the transcript - to understand the level of malevolence and viciousness you must hear the tape.

Listen. Understand that this is an 11 year old child. And then look into your heart, honestly, and see whether you can still defend Mr. Baldwin with a clear conscience.

Posted by: Dave | April 20, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Do you guys really believe that's Alec Baldwin? You can't say "I know it's true because I heard it on the internet." Wake up.

Posted by: Shari | April 20, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I have been a big fan of his for a long time, til today..Kim, you did good..she let the world know the true character of this man..anyone who would talk to their child like that, does not deserve to see or speak to that child at all..Kim, good luck in protecting your little girl from this arrogant cold monster..

Posted by: Thrashqueen | April 20, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

What human being would want this tape played in public. I'm shocked. The whole world in not like "Leave it to Beaver." You mean, every father isn't Ward Cleaver? This type of conduct goes on in tens of millions of homes throughout the USA. We are peering into a snippet of a family relationship and drawing conclusions. Maybe the kid is flunking in school and having all other kinds of problems

I can sympathize with the man. I see a father making a serious effort at parenting, albeit rough. He has a 12 year kid (no toddler) who is not following through on committments and acting disrespectfully.

There are no threats of violence. The use of "Pig" which has had all the pseudopsychologists panting today, clearly refers to the child's selfishness and lack of consideration.


Posted by: Steve Jones | April 20, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Alec Baldwin supposed to leave the United States after Bush was elected? How is that coming along?

Posted by: Just Wondering | April 20, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

i'm sorry but somone who is going through a ruf divorse and then has his only daughter turned againts him by the B+tch kinda has a right to be frustrated. And as for his daughter this is just a wake up call. how many dads leave their daughters without a word left to wonder if they even love her. he's pissed because he's tring hard to get a hold of her and not leave her without a fauther and she refuses to acnolage him by answering the phone. When he gets pissed with her about it and says he's going to fix this so he can be in contact her. This has to be hard for him as well i mean if you child told you they didn't want anything to do with you you would be pritty upset too.

Posted by: potter | April 20, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Verbal abuse on a child is child abuse no matter what the circumstances. I would do whatever it takes to protect my child.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

No one, except Alec, knows the context of this. I agree its not right to say something like that, but ye who've done no wrong...

I just hope this doesn't result in the standard media circus when someone in the spotlight does something stupid.

Further, he obviously wouldn't be upset if he didn't care for her, and I'm quite sure there is little that could be done that is more damaging to him than having his mistakes broadcast around the globe.

Personally, I hope this leads to a funny sketch on SNL and that is the end of it. Luckily, he can probably keep his job on 30 rock because, well, at least his daughter isn't black or something.

Posted by: Steve | April 20, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

You can still be stern with your child without the name calling. She's still a kid for heavens sake.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I am a father of 4 kids and, have to say, have been in similar situations - only not broadcast to the world. Kids can a times be irreverent and, at times, need to be confronted. There's alot to this story left unseen and I empathize with Alec. His words were intended to be harsh as he is a father who cares for his daughter yet is struggling to direct her behavior at a distance. Posting this phone call to the world was a cheap shot by Kim. What a wacko.

Posted by: Dad of four | April 20, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

to Baldwin's daughter:

I am sorry your father is a bottom feeder. Just know that there is life after and ignore him as best you can. I am sure you are smart enough to get why your mom ditched him.
Don't take his insults personally, he hates himself and is dealing with it like a little kid.

Peace out chicky.

Posted by: Cranky_Old_Batt | April 20, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

The only person who matters in any of this is the child and she is being abused by selfish, immature and not too bright parents. The effects of this behavior on their child's future are not predictable, but it is unlikely that they will be good. Remember when you were eleven?

Posted by: Paul W. Rackowe | April 20, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with the words used in the voicemail but it sounds like his daughter is a brat. Perhaps he just became fed up with her selfishness and rudeness.

My guess is that it is her mother who is actually the bottom feeder Cranky_Old_Batt. Perhaps if she had a better mother, she wouldn't be so disrespectful toward her father.

Posted by: Taylormade | April 20, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

It's Alec Baldwin who made the call. Harold Levin who runs TMZ was on CNN this morning talking about the how he got the tape and the response from Mr. Baldwin publicist. TMZ is more credible than most blogs because it is owned by Time/Warner and Harold Levin is a Lawyer. TMZ reports on celebrity legal issues
(divorce decrees, custody hearings and the ever popular DUI police statement)
They even had of copy of Britany and K-Fed's original nuptial agreement on their website.

It the tape was not credible TMZ would not be standing behind it.

Posted by: TMZ Rocks | April 20, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

i cant believe that anyone would sympathize with alec baldwin in this case. if i were this childs mother i would see that he was in fact threatening this young girl in his message and would certainly have given a copy of the message to my lawyers, if this is how it happened. no loving father has a right to speak to his child in this manner. its abusive and horrible. and i note 'you're 12 years old, or 11 years old,' does he not know his childs age? he sounds like a great dad

Posted by: kelly jones | April 20, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Shame on kim Basinger for releasing this to the media. Granted,Alec Baldwin was WRONG for what he did,but this should be a private and family matter. Now the whole world knows. We the public don't need to know these things about their family.

Posted by: rosie | April 20, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I am very surprised people are defending him. He yells and screams, calls her names, and threatens her. Everyone gets angry, but no one ever has a right to just lash out like that. The inescapable fact here is that she is a CHILD and he is an ADULT, or should be. They had a very hateful and messy divorce, surely that would upset any kid, especially if, since kids aren't stupid, she blames one parent over another. So let's say she's angry with her father and doesn't to take his phone call - even repeatedly, this was not the way for him or any rational human to handle it. Why was she obligated to pick up? Why was she rude not to? I'd say he got the right to call her in the court order, not the right to talk to her against her will. If Kim is poisoning her against him, he needs to take that to court, there are avenues to address that, which surely, with all his litigation experience, he knows. Kids are more affected in these divorce proceedings than people know. Like I said, he wasn't just yelling - it went above and beyond.

Posted by: Wow | April 20, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

i would still do alec anytime anywhere...

Posted by: kitty | April 20, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Balwin being a parent I know kids can drive you nuts and make you a little insane. Add and insane ex and bad custody deal for the Father you get raving mad Baldwin. People who say they have never spoken to their kids in a terrible way at one point or another I just don't believe.Baldwin did what all of us have done scream at our kids.

Posted by: vitagal | April 20, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin is brilliant on 30 Rock - I couldn't care less how he treats his daughter. People expect celebrities to be "nice" - what difference does it make? Clean up your own backyard, people!

Posted by: criminy | April 20, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

the scariest thing to me is that there are people who think this sort of verbal abuse is acceptable and that all parents act like this.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the voice mail showed up on the Internet pretty much proves his point, I think ...

Being talked at is one thing, I think the message is that she has played him too many times -- in fine "spolied brat in Hollywood" style.

It is sad that Baldwin-Basinger did not make as a couple and the the mother moved the child so far away.

I can easily say that no matter what my parents, siblings, even close friends had done to me ... family is family and I would not have done this to him -- to humiliate him even more. Her values are questionable and she clearly needs some straightening out.

He might sound angry and use a few > nothing she is not exposed to in movies and television and at school.

Baldwin could have dished out a lot more than this. He showed a lot of restrain IF he was truly so angry ...

Posted by: Victoria | April 20, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

OK, it IS pretty funny that he doesn't seem to know how old his daughter is...

Posted by: criminy | April 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I am responding to your report on the Alec Baldwin "story". The News Media has caused additional pain to this family affair. Like Paparazzi you have involved yourself in the private matter of a family suffering through a "messy" divorce. By releasing this "vicious attack" on his daughter by Baldwin you have intensified the 'feelings' of shame and shock by the child. Now the entire country has heard what you have aired and what should be a family matter. I am not condoning Baldwin's behavior. However, most parents have "lost their temper" on their child and acted severely. But this is life and a child has an opportunity to see that life, at times, is not so sweet and safe. And...a parent has an opportunity to admit their awful behavior and ask for forgiveness. This is NOT the media's business nor any viewers business. This is a family matter that the news media and specifically your network, is exploiting and causing greater pain. Your choice to display this piece disgusts me!

Posted by: craig | April 20, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it was Ireland who leak the tape.

My parents went thru a bitter divorce. My Dad never let go of the anger and it effected our relationship. He was so wrap up in his feelings about how my mom wrong him that he did not seem to notice the actions and words to me had hurt me. He did not seem to want to listen (and in his mind it was always my mom's fault, years after the divorce).

This could be a cry for help from Ireland. Alex should start acting like an adult and take responsiblity for his actions than acting like a kid and blaming his wife for everything wrong in his relationship with his daughter.

Posted by: Pat | April 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

When I heard this story and actually listened to what he said to his little girl, it trasported me back to my own childhood. My father used these same words to describe me and my brother often in our house. He was also an angry, controlling man who was often physically violent. Baldwin's threat to "come out there to let her know exactly how he feels" sent a shiver down my spine. I don't think he meant he was going to have a chat with her, more like he was going to beat the crap out of her. Kim's lucky she got out when she could, the guy is a sociopathic a-hole, without a doubt.

Posted by: Lainie | April 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

If my wingnut ex-spouse was leaving threatening voicemail messages for our children, and then trying to portray himself in the media as some kind of "victim", I would be sure that that tape got out there so people could hear for themselves what a pathetic loser he is. Go pick on someone your own size, Alec, you moonbat liberal.

Also, how do we know that it wasn't his daughter who leaked the tape?

Posted by: jpc | April 20, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

This megalomaniacal jackass who holds himself up as some sort of god who should be adored and emulated deserves just what he's getting. All the tv entertainment shows, the glossies...that's all glitz for money...there's no substance to it. The real person is always hidden from view, and some fairy tale image portrayed. Like the women in girlie magazines, it's all been airbrushed....now you've seen and heard the real Alec Baldwin. Too bad they can't throw him in jail (yes, in another country where he really, really wants to be, but can't make the money from his deluded fans). You defenders of the tabloid images are laughable...and Alec laughs all the way to the bank.

Posted by: JL | April 20, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

people who don't think all parents (and i really do mean ALL parents) don't lose their cool and yell at their kids don't have kids themselves. i know some of the most laid back, politically liberal, hippie type parents in the world and even they have yelled at their kids, even cursed at them, when they were little (11, or 12 years old). people who say they've never yelled at their kids are lying, and that's that. i'm not talking about name calling, i don't condone that for a moment, but my children are all grown and gone and each of them has called from college to thank their dad and i for raising them the way we did. especially when they've visited the homes of friends where there was a significant lack of discipline and respect toward parents. we yelled at them (okay, i yelled, not their dad) but they 'survived' and even thrived.

Posted by: methinks | April 20, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The tape of Mr. Baldwin frightened me. What I find more frightening are the apologists in this comment section attempting to defend him!

I can only believe it's the same one or two nitwits posting multiple times.

There is no excuse for the hateful tirade I just listened to. That man is despicable.

Posted by: Donnie | April 20, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

It's truly sad that some people could defend Alec. You either don't have kids or don't deserve them. Someone should slap the c*** out of that thug. Somehow he's gotten the idea the world revolves around him. His total responsibility at this point should be to raise his daughter to be the best she can be. It appears that's way down on the list of his priorities. If I ever call my child a pig - somebody shoot me.

Posted by: David | April 20, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

... it trasported me back to my own childhood. My father used these same words to describe me and my brother often in our house. He was also an angry, controlling man who was often physically violent. ...

I think that you are reading some of your own "issues" into this. When I listened to it, I laughed the whole time -- the little lady definitely knos how to push his buttons.

So, you father didn't let you spend $4000.00 on underwear. I have to wonder where was her mother when that was happening???

Posted by: Victoria | April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

That message is horrible and AB doesn't seem to care considering the statement he released. I hope the judge hands Alex his butt on a platter since he's left it flapping in the breeze like that.

I totally would have released the tape had I been in Kim's shoes. It sounds like she's been fighting a long time to protect her daughter from things just like that message.

Posted by: IBelieveInFairies | April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Something is wrong with Alec Baldwin. He is neurotic and narcissistic. I hope he loses visitation rights and trips and falls on his face- busting some teeth out. He is true evil . .

Posted by: Chris | April 20, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh please you can clearly hear the fustration from Alec I am not even a fan of his to be honest but I started to read a little about him and Kim and it sounds like he is completly fustrated and would like to speak to his daughter. Everyone is so quick to form a opinion and not listen to what is rigth in front of you. Hell yes I would of used a better choice of words for a 12 year old but as a parent we all know we are not perfect or we would be trillionaires when we wrote the perfect parenting book. So Alec, she will grow up one day and be more able to make her own decisions and not try to please the psycho mother she has to live with I know it has to be a hard situation but you only set yourself up and mom looks like a red apple with poison only the adults can see. It will get better for you.

Posted by: ROBIN RUSHEY | April 20, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD, there are people defending Alec because his ex is pain. Excuse me? Since when do two wrongs make a right? Just because Kim is being manipulative and vindicative does NOT make it okay for Alec to yell at his kid like he did. The kid is 11. She probably just forgot he said he was going ot call at a certain time. She should be held accountable and taught to be responsible. But, verbally abusing your child is not the way to do it. You can reprimand a child's behavior without abusing the child. It is possible.

Posted by: ep | April 20, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I vote for taking the child away from both Alex and Kim as it sounds like neither one are worth much as far as a parent. I'd love to have a daughter again as mine died of cancer 11 years ago and I'd NEVER call her names or treat her the way it sounds their daughter is being treated. Maybe parenting classes are in line for mommy and daddy dearest!!!!!!

Posted by: mnhazelnut | April 20, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Once again I've made an ass out of myself..." ~AB

I couldn't agree more, Alec. A huge ass. Once again.

Posted by: jpc | April 20, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Not taking sides here, BUT from personal experience
Its painfully obvious, with the release of personal family business to the media machine of Hollywood, that Kim is using her child as a pawn in an attempt to sever whatever bond or ties that child has with her father Alec. You dont have to experience a Hollywood divorce to see this kind of post-divorce fallout, it happens every day all across America. Unfortunatley, this one was made public, the poor child can thank her own Mother for the humiliation she experienced at school today. The ones who suffer long term with this type of manipulative, vindictive, and selfish behavior are the children. Alec comes from what appears to be a loving home with a good solid relationship with his own Mother, not a "woman hater" or "deadbeat dad" at all. It is obvious that he is frustrated with the situation, it is documented that he is doing everything he can legally to stay in that childs life with NO help or cooperation from Kim.
Classic case of a child being manipulated by a irresponsible, narcissistic and paranoid Parent. One can only imagine the climate of fear, hatred and paranoia a child in that situation must live in. The child is 11/12 and only doing what an 11/12 yr old is expected to do. She lives with her Mother/Primary Gaurdian, she wants to please her Mother. Her Mother expects her to avoid the Father (because of her own feelings toward him) and/or make it as unpleasant and difficult as possible when the father DOES finally get to see the child. The audio sounded like a man finally putting his foot down with a child who needed to know that their actions were unacceptable. He sounded like what my own Dad, would have said when I was out of line. The "pig" reference was to her behavior, like being "bratty". MANY Parants have said things they regret in times of frustration, NO ONE can point fingers at that. Too many fathers go through this same thing and eventually stop trying to be a part of the lives of their children.
There should be TWO adults involved here, and if Kim has been getting away with this for all these years, it doesnt even look like the Judge is acting like an adult. How in his right mind can he consider her leaking this tape to the public,
"responsible parenting"? It should be a wake up call to him that this father is being denied access to his child and that whatever court order is in place is being violated. Shame on the Judge for not putting this childs welfare and needs first.

Posted by: Mom/Co-parent of 2 | April 20, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I think that you are reading some of your own "issues" into this. When I listened to it, I laughed the whole time -- the little lady definitely knos how to push his buttons.

Maybe, but we all have our "issues", don't we? The fact that your reaction was "I laughed the whole time" shows you've got some issues of your own.
Coming from a verbally and physically abusive home myself, I know there is a difference with "yelling at your kids" and the type of name calling that Baldwin was doing. I have a 14 year old daughter, and a 12 year old son, believe me, I've yelled at my kids before, and my daughter has probably been just as big of a pain as Ireland, but there was a vicious quality to his tone and the words he chose, I don't believe that "all parents yell like that" I'm glad the tape got released, and at the very least, I hope it hurts his career.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Typical Alec. Did any one notice that he had to look for a phone? What no cell, come on, even my cell has a reminder feature. As far as his rampage it's all about Alec. How many time does he say "ME" it's me me me. I thought he promised to move to France anyway. I wish he would and take all of his America haters with him. It just proves people like him just are full of hate and just try and hide it with their occasional charity work that they plaster all over the world to see. Real charity needs no mention. Horrible man, husband and father. Kim shouldn't have released the tape but it's a good eye opener for those of you that take your advice from celebs that have lost touch with the real world but yet still want to change the world as they know it.

Posted by: $1 | April 20, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I have disliked Baldwin for several years and would not make an effort to see anything he is in. His language to his daughter was ridiculous....

However, Basinger also seems weird, and releasing the tape seems out of line

Posted by: cambel | April 20, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I am astonished that people would be accepting of anyone talking to an 11 year old girl like that - much less her own father. He was completely unhinged and if he can fly off the handle like that and go on and on in a rage while talking to voice mail (while she is not even present to roll her eyes or back talk, as kids sometimes do)... I can only imagine how much more unglued he might have become had he been receiving any negative feedback. I am a biological mom and foster mom. I have raised over 20 very difficult children and let me tell you - had I ever been verbally abusive and inappropriate like that - I would have lost my license. It would have been justified. I don't care how much a child pushes you... this response is too over the top for any reasonable, caring, parent to ever give a pass on. Recently everyone is talking about how calling women ho's is so incredibly damaging.... I would say the same of Alec's tirade against his (11 year old for goodness sake !). He should only have supervised visits with his child. I would never trust him alone with her.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

To the genius who posted the below. First off smart one, US Baby bloomes and their parents before them set the standard for discipline. However the state government and school officials have decided that they knew how to raise children better than we do. Thus spanking has been eliminated to discourage bad behavior from infancy up. Corporal punishment worked within reason. Spanking doesn't turn people into serial killers, abusers or any of that bull they used to remove the rights of the parent to raise their children.

It did however curb children from getting into mischief and being disrespectful to their elders. We Baby boomers are respectful people because of the love and equal parts of discipline we have gotten in our lives. We never took guns to school to kill, we respected our teachers and parents and all others who were our elders. Today kids are lost and off balance. They suffer from too much exposure to violence and not enough discipline. Parents no longer have any say. Kids today don't know or have any repercussions for bad behavior. So who and what is going to make them behave and be a stand up human being? Are you still with me bright one? Lets continue.....

Another thing you said tweaked me. First off lets go back to civics 101. The political leaders of this country be they young or old has nothing to do either with being a baby boomer or not. It has to do with poor finacial judgement and the fact that darn near all politicians are crooks and have lost touch with real American struggles. They waste money as they don't have to work for it. When is the last time something got cheaper in the way Washington does business? Or for the way America functions? Waste always goes up. The next generation will do the same ( yours). So get used to it. Its a part of life.

War is something else you touched on. Well... it has been happening for thousand of centuries and it isn't going to stop. I fought in one and would do it again if called upon. Stop your whining and show a little more respect the next time you decide to spout off. Maybe your point will be taken seriously with more kindness and understanding.


You're actually blaming the things wrong in the world on non-Boomers? Really? Boomers are off the hook? Not running this country into the worst deficit in years with a daily body count in the hundreds? Not inciting world hatred through overconsumption and the imposition of American values as if there were universal values? Not responsible for global warming on a massive scale? Not raising the kids that you're blaming for not raising their children right?

Huh.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding me? Does he honestly thing badgering a 12 year old girl is going to get anywhere? Maybe the kid is tired of being stuck in the middle of that mess and doesn't want to answer her phone. That child has grown up in the divorce mess for what, 7 years now? How does he expect her to act, with all the hatred flying around in that relationship (or what is left of it). Grow up Alec... tantrums are for rude thoughtless little pigs.

Posted by: Amy | April 20, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

YOU GO ALEX!I DON'T CONDONE YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS, HOWEVER, AS ONE PERSON STATED USING THE WORD "PIG' ONLY SHOWS...YES HOW SELFISH/DISRESPECTFUL HIS DAUGHTER IS BEING. I HAVE 2 DAUGHTERS 12 AND 17. AND YES I HAVE LOST MY COOL BEFORE, BUT SOMETIMES KIDS TRY YOU AT THE WRONG TIMES. THIS SHOULDN'T BE IN THE EYES OF USA. THIS IS A PERSONAL FAMILY MATTER. WHEN WE TREAT OUR CHILDREN LIKE FRIENDS INSTEAD OF HAVING A PARENT/CHILD RELATIONSHIPS,THEN WE WONDER WHY THEY GROW UP ACTING LIKE WE ARE BUDDY BUDDIES INSTEAD OF MOM AND DAUGHTER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS AT THE END OF THE DAY. ALLEC WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH HIS DECISIONS AND ACTIONS AND WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE JUDGING HIM. LETS LEAVE THAT TO THE HIRE POWER. WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS AND CONCERNS FOR THIS ENTIRE SITUATION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM,OR REALLY ANY OF OUR BUSINESS. JUST MORE DRAMA TO TALK ABOUT. THIS WILL ALL BLOW OVER IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE MEDIA. HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED WEEKEND AMERICA!

Posted by: MY OPINION | April 20, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like that whole family is spoiled rotten.
But, we don't know if the dad apologized to the kid. We *do* know that the mom, in the cold light of day, released the tape.
I'm guessing that's why so many of us Celebritologists are siding with the dad.
But it sure doesn't look like there's a good side to be on.

Posted by: Why do we allow celebs to inflict themselves on us? | April 20, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger had better stop all of this nonsense. They are no doubt raising a daughter who is going to have numerous problems in her life. Ms. Basinger did not say the hateful words, but she is just as much to blame. Something similar happened in our family years ago and their child was scarred for life. Their daughter tried suicide at the age of 15 and later was successful at the age of 46. Children need both parents and these parents need to support each other whether they are divorced or not. I hope and pray they will all get counseling. If these parents do not change their hurtful ways toward each other, their lives, as well, as their daughter's life is going to be miserable. Good grief that is no way to live!!!

Posted by: S. Stark | April 20, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey, MY OPINION --
Why are you shouting at us?

Posted by: What the heck did I do? | April 20, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

MY OPINION, please stop yelling.

Posted by: methinks | April 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

as much fun as watching all of you cast judgment on each of Baldwin, Basinger and even their daughter, I would hope to remind you that it is not your place.
if you are mad at Alec, stop going to his movies.
if you are mad at Kim, stop going to her movies.
if you are mad at Ireland, well.. wait and see.. maybe she'll make movies you can then not go to.

I'd recommend you spend your free-time reflecting on the last time you did something petty/vindictive (Kim) or you lost your temper (Alec) and how you can do better in the future rather than simply preaching about Kim and Alec.

Posted by: a | April 20, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Alec sounded like a very frustrated concerned father of a daughter that is out of control. Any father that would jump on a plane to go see his daughter to "straighten her out" is a fantastic father in my book. Most people only wish they had a father that cared enough to jump on a plane for them. Shame on you, Kim, for releasing that tape.

Posted by: Sheila T | April 20, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hello fellow divorced dads who have had their kids poisoned against them. Baldwins rant was that of a very stressed out father trying to be granted his just visitation rights that his former wife has ignored an is contempt of court. How many of you have been so frustrated trying to contact your errant teenager or younger and forced to deal with a message service. Anger intensifies and I bet he would not have spoken to her personally that way if she had been able to or simply answered the phone. This ought be none of our business anyway.

Posted by: og oggilby | April 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

How can the kid NOT be out of control with parents like that? They don't seem to be the best models of self restraint, respect and courtesy. Exactly how is an 11 year old supposed to know or learn those traits if her world centers around parents like this?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

[It's pretty pathetic how some of you are defending Alec Baldwin's treatment of his own daughter. All the excuses and rationalizations you're making on his behalf. Geez, I feel sorry for your kids.]
Same here. My parents yelled at me plenty but they never, never said things like that. If the man has a problem with his ex the proper place to express that is with the EX, not the 11 year old. For all of you who think it's okay because Ireland was rude [and where is your proof of that] I'm sure you were perfect little angels at 11. Geez, people who think it's okay to talk to anyone the way Baldwin talked to his 11 year old CHILD are the reason the world is effed and apparently you not only think that your thinking someone is rude gives you the right to be a complete and total ass in response you are willing to go to the mat to defend someone when in fact NONE OF US HERE KNOWS WHAT WENT ON BETWEEN BALDWIN AND BASINGER. WE WEREN'T THERE AND WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE SITUATION BUT WE DO KNOW WHAT BALDWIN SAID BECAUSE HE ADMITTED IT WAS HIM. And yes I'm yelling on purpose.

Posted by: What a bunch of idiots. | April 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, I did not laugh at your post ...

Yes, I did not take him seriously -- because he VERBALIZED his frustration over the telephone 2000 miles away.

It was ridiculous ... and laughable -- if I were her and heard "real" or "threatening' anger from my father, I would have deleted the message without listening to it -- especially not with the presence of mind to tape in and put it on the Internet. There is a lot of calcualtion in the publicity.

If a frustrated dad were standing in front of me, I would sympathize with his situation. By the time he actually gets there, I doubt that the the initial reaction will still have the same punch.

Please don't get defensive over nothing ... it did not seem so threatening to me.

Whether it is the mother or daughter, they are pulling a prank on him to embarass him, that's all.

"Maybe, but we all have our "issues", don't we? The fact that your reaction was "I laughed the whole time" shows you've got some issues of your own."

Posted by: Victoria | April 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Listening to the call Ireland Baldwin received from her father just gave me chills. I'll bet she is absolutely terrified of the prospect of being alone with her father...I sure would be and I'm an adult. Can't blame Kim for doing whatever she felt necessary to protect her daughter. I just hope that it has been effective enough to keep him from being alone with that child. I am afraid for her myself!!

Posted by: RoseAgain | April 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

You are so right! At the risk of bring up my own "issues", I remember being in 11th grade, I had finger marks on my neck from my father, my well meaning friend told my counselor. I was called down to the office, mortified, I told her that Yes, my dad did it, but I was "fine". She let me go about my business without a second thought. No visit to the house, no follow up, nothing. I was glad at the time, but that would NEVER happen nowadays. And that's GOOD. We should never become tolerant of parental behavior like baldwin showed. I've seen many interesting posts on here today, I'm glad there are so many intelligent people who also think Baldwin is wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

having watched my husband's ex wife alienate him from his two children by pulling the same sort of stuff. "i can't make the children call you" & "i can't make the children answer your phone calls"
there are thousands of divorced dads who would love to be close to their children but aren't because of bitter angry ex-wives who have primary care and make darn sure that daddy doesn't have a chance to maintain any contact with their children.
1. was that the entire phone call or only part of it?
2. what was the context of the call? had she been dodging his calls or had mommy made sure that ireland wasn't around when she was supposed to be?
3. who released the tape?
4. where was mommy?

Posted by: quark | April 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

You make a good point that we don't know the whole story, he could've been pushed to his limit, BUT it sounds like he lost his mind on that voice mail, and I bet you dollars to donuts its not the first time he's done it. Kim did accuse him of hitting HER when they were married. Many abusers start off verbally. The bottom line is NO MATTER WHAT Kim or Ireland did to p him off, he was out of line.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I think we should all stay away with women with names like KIM. First we had eminiem with his wife KIM now poor Alex Baldwin with Kim Basinger or Basinger what ever she is. She should not send out this tape

Posted by: Alvin | April 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes Alvin, that would solve the problem....yikes.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Emergency vasectomy is in order!!!! What a vicious vile creature.

Posted by: tupac_goldstein | April 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I guess Baldwin has become the character he played in "GlenGerry Glen Ross".
That people defend this behavior is just a sad example of the mindless "Celebrity Worship" we see on all too often on the Internet today.
And I am not taking sides in this.If Basinger did indeed leak the phone message to the press it's reprehensible behavior.Two wrongs do not make a right..something a lot of poster where don't seem to understand.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Where are the feminists? What, no comment? Why aren't they outraged that he called his female child a "pig?" If it was a conservative who spoke to their child in that manner, they would have demanded crucifiction by now. But, alas, he is a liberal and it's okay for *them* to treat women like crap. This makes it very obvious why Kim left him. Abuse!

Posted by: Beth | April 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea why A.B has to apologize to anybody it is his business not the public to get involved. We as parents lose our patience with our kids especially at that age and teens and say things that we really don't mean. And as far as his exwife she had no right to allow this to be put on air what is she doing to her child? I am sure she is brain washing her child into not calling her dad.

Posted by: kat | April 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry this was released but I can understand his frustration. Kim has been doing this sort of stuff for years. We still love Alec.

Posted by: JRoman | April 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Until any of you are in a sitaution where the other parent uses children to manipulate the parent, I would just be quiet. I cannot stand Kim Basinger at this point, and I am the custodial parent of 6. I would never interfere with my kids relationship with their father, but he interferes with our relationship. It's wrong, and Kim, should be the one to lose custody and rights not him. Obviously we don't know the whole story. To be honest, Kim sounds like the sick mother. I have a thirteen year old who is a rude little twit herself, I am sorry I don't know what parents today are thinking about their kids, most aren't thinking anything about them but how to get them out of their hair. Cut him some slack, if the girl is being nasty to her daddy, she deserves a good lashing out. Kim is the one that needs a good whipping, what she has done here is wrong. She doesn't look better, now she looks like a nut!

Posted by: Melissa | April 20, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

A loving parent, even in a fit of anger, does not try to degrade their child by calling them stupid, a pig and other epithets. I really feel sorry for this child, she is caught between a rock and a hard place. The parents need to grow up and stop throwing verbal and legal brickbats at each other, and using the child as a pawn in the process. Baldwin has some serious anger management issues, and really, really needs help. The ex might too. This kid is going to be completely estranged from him in a few years by her own choice if he doesn't get his act together. He needs to stop casting blame for his actions on others and work on a relationship with his child.

Posted by: sk | April 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

you bunch of supid libs. standing up for this guy??? Obama just talked about "verbal violence" i think this is it!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

This is verbal abuse, plain and simple. No parent should use this language to a child, regardless of the circumstances.

A child hearing this from her parent is wounded - and those wounds don't heal. I hope Ireland has a good therapist, paid for by her father.

There is simply no excuse for any parent, famous or not, to take out his venom on his child by name calling and belittling.

Posted by: Dianna | April 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

If you all bother to click on the link with the audio, you will hear the entire message.

This situation has been going on for 5 years or more. I gather that it got so bad that there was a court-brokered/ordered situation as of 2004 such that he calls at a particular time on particular days, and that the kid has her own phone. Daughter had her phone turned off, "missing" the appointment -- evidently, in context, she's done this on a number of occasions. Side note: Little kids are not in a position to ignore a court order or decide they do not want to do the visitation (or, in this case, engage in the phone visitation). Mother can be held in contempt if they do not make the kid participate.

Guess he just snapped, 'cause the entire message is must worse than the snippet posted above. :)

Sounds exactly like Alec Baldwin would in a voice mail -- not sure who thinks it's someone impersonating him (and besides, he'd have denied he left such a message if that were true).

Posted by: Fallen | April 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

i wouldn't say i'm standing up for him. i'm saying that i have seen parental alienation in action up-close & personal and it isn't pretty. is this what is going on here? i don't know i'd rather get more facts before i make a judgement. gee, what a concept, getting the facts. that is something i guess you rush listeners aren't really aquainted with now are you?

Posted by: quark | April 20, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Baldwin's spokesman said in a statement that "in the best interest of the child" the actor would "do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing - keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order".

The statement said Basinger and her lawyer leaked the tape in violation of a court order, and that Baldwin regretted the choice of language used.

"Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years," it added.

Baldwin and Basinger, the star of LA Confidential, split in 2001 but have been locked in bitter legal wrangling related to Ireland's custody and visitation rights.

Basinger was charged with contempt of court last year for violating a 2004 custody arrangment.

A Los Angeles court rejected a bid by Basinger's lawyers to have the charges dismissed this week.

Posted by: Documented history of contempt | April 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

These comments are another example of how no action is severe, malignant or evil enough to ever cause a liberal to rebuke a fellow liberal! The irony is you know that these same brain wasted defenders of Baldwin rail against traditional child dicipline.

Another typical practice of the left; blame someone else for your actions! Apparently it's Alec's estranged wife that made him behave so violently towards his child. Can there be a more pathetic excuse? lol

Posted by: Sad | April 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

ever been around a teen? they can really test you - let alone going thru an ugly public divorce - Alec Baldwin is one of my favorite actors - I'll bet his daughter loves him very much but she's a teen in the midst of a gnarly divorce - leave them alone. but watch 30 rock..he's so good.

Posted by: mem | April 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

As far as I'm concerned, both parents here are being abusive toward their daughter. He is verbally abusing his daughter by his inexcusable language. He needs to learn better ways to deal with his anger, and he and his daughter need to go to counseling asap to repair their relationship.

Kim Bassinger is equally abusive. Not only is she undermining the courts by not complying with the custody agreement, she is being manipulative by deciding to go public and exploit her own daughter in the media for her own personal gain. Passive Aggressive people can do just as much or even more damage than a verbal abusive person. I couldn't believe the quote where Ireland gave her ok to go public with the voicemail. 11/12 year olds aren't mature enough to make those decisions. A mother who hates her ex so much that she is willing to poison her child against him has some serious parenting issues themselves.

The only victim here is Ireland. Obviously their parents hatred and anger toward each other trumps any love that they feel for their daughter. I suggest that the court revisit this custody arrangement all together.

Posted by: Tup | April 20, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for another insight into the private lives of the tortured people we choose to worship as celebrities.
Take the rest of the day off.

Posted by: aussiebones | April 20, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Still not sure why people think she's the rude one here. Parents in divorces with child custody get really hateful and spiteful and end up with a file so big it has to be held in a box and $100K in legal fees. The child becomes a prize for the most "virtuous" parent. There's no excuse for what Alec said and did. No matter what Ireland did, he's the adult, and she's the child - the end. Also - to the person with the brilliant legal analysis - the kid isn't a party to the divorce and isn't technically bound by the orders. The parent with physical custody has to produce the child, but the child doesn't haev to act lovey-dovey to the parent. He had the right to call - he doesn't have the right for her to want to talk to him. Also - people say Kim is in violation of the court order, as if that excuses him. She's wrong, he's wrong, and in addition, he's certainly in violation of a court order by bad-mouthing her on the tape, and again in the press with the "pathological" comment. It's standard for those orders to contain provisions forbidding the badmouthing of the other parent in the earshot of the child...Mostly it makes me mad that people are calling Ireland a rude brat - would you want to talk to him?! Just like Alec, we should also not be slandering an 11 (or 12) year old.

Posted by: Ireland | April 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Imagine a world in which children aren't berated, insulted, and cursed at, and such behavior isn't defended and justified. It can be a reality... if Liberals somehow... evaporate.

Posted by: rightyright | April 20, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Alec is probably just frustrated because he is a closet gay and stuck in a relationship he doesn't know how to get out of. Typical of most Hollywood stars who can't handle the real world.

Posted by: Frackers | April 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Now we see why Basinger filed for divorce. Baldwin always has and always will be a JERK...bullying his 11 year-old daughter won't get him more points. Too bad, he's a pretty good actor too.

Posted by: Canteen Boy | April 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Whew! What a group of opinions! I was verbally, physically & emotionally abused by a very "spoiled brat" mother when I was Ireland's age ...whatever that is...and the rest of my mother's life. I always envied people who had great relationships with their mothers, and I still do. When I "succeeded" educationally & professionally, (though she had told me all my life what a loser I was and would never make anything of myself) she berated me for not feeling sorry for my siblings, because I now had a better job, more money, etc. than they did....nevermind that they partied all weekend while I was at home studying for years. I realized I could never please her and stopped trying. We were civil, but I lost feelings for her, although I still loved the person that I wished my mother was, like a fairy tale, though I wondered if she loved me. I never forgave her, but when she became old and couldn't care for herself it fell to me to take care of her. Belligerant to the end, she whined about everything when I visited her in the nursing home, things she knew I couldn't fix, to make me feel guilty, and she was never happy. I finally saw this old, wrinkled, miserable woman for what she was...self-absorbed, and I actually began to feel sorry for her and what she was, and was finally able to forgive her to the point that I was at least tolerant and patronizing to her. Sad to say that I was unable to shed a tear at her funeral....she was 83 and I was 55. When you treat your child like she treated me the child never really gets over it. Ireland will hate her father...not for what her mother has said about him, but what he has said about himself to her.

Posted by: JL | April 20, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

People shouldn't say or do things if they arent willing to accept the consequences. How can people feel sorry for a man who was blasted for verbally abusing his daughter? This man has issues. Granted, his ex may be using their children against him (which is wrong all in itself) but he should NEVER speak to his 11 or 12 year old daughter that way. What kind of an example is he setting? Seriously.

Posted by: Down with Verbal Abuse | April 20, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

his is a tyical liberal hypocrite
thinks only his rights are important
thinks only free speech appiles to him and the rest of the lefwing hollywood fools

Posted by: Ricker | April 20, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I use to feel sorry for Kim because I always thought Alec had the propensity for emotionally abusing her. She played the victim role perfectly. But lately, and certainly with this incident, I feel Alec made a horrible mistake, but a human one. Most parents have scolded their children in shear frustration and the kids NEED to be chastised for their selfish ways. I bet part of Alec's court order is to only call only at certain times during the day, and as he said, he goes out of his way to keep up with his end of the order only to have her be rude and not take his call. The court order goes both ways, Kim!! You should encourage the relationship between your daughter and her father regardless of how you feel about him.

Posted by: Rita | April 20, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, will the spineless ones please crawl back under their rocks? I've heard worse than that during some of my parent's more florid tirades.

Baldwin's diggin' his own grave. You jackholes can spite him all you want, but when that kid remembers that message, old Alec's gonna feel like he's been shot.

So, do us a favor, take your hands off your hips and stop pretending like you all wear white gloves and go to church regularly. The number of you here who do both is likely slim to nil.

Parents pop off, they say some really vile crap, but we do get over it, and sometimes, we even learn to forgive it.

Posted by: James Buchanan | April 20, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

You can't blame her for not wanting to listen to his raving on the phone. He obviously bullies everyone and he doesn't even care how it sounds. The "stone him to death" remark was a very public statement. He doesn't hear his words the same way decent people hear them. He was going to run for some political office. OH NO!

Posted by: Paula | April 20, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

It appears that some of the Alec defenders need a lesson in basic logic:

Ireland = 11 --> Child
Alec = 49 --> Adult

What's so difficult to understand? Berating an 11 year-old by insulting her, demeaning her, and threatening her is only excusable if you yourself are a 12 year old. He's a nutjob and should lose his visitation rights.

Allow me to be first to sign the petition to ask him to leave the country already.

Posted by: Basic Logic | April 20, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

When I heard the message today in his own voice I was frightened of him to my core. That poor innocent child needs a body guard from her own father. That was disturbing on many levels. I wouldn't want to be married to or divorced from a man capable of that much anger.
I'm wondering what he would have done to her in person...
it sounded to me like he was about to further abuse her, with his words, feelings, or his body. That much anger blasted into a young girl could cause as much damage as a gunshot between the eyes. Sounds like this guy needs alot of help. There's no excuse, because he has enough resources to get the help he needs. As far as the leak, well, Child Abuse tagged as "private conversation" is still Child Abuse and needs to be reported and exposed at any cost without fear. One cannot facilitate compromise with Abuse especially when directed at a child. Frustration is not an excuse. There is no excuse for Child Abuse.

Posted by: korina knudson | April 20, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

PUT HIS COMMENTS IN PERSPECTIVE. YES, HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO HIS CHILD. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR AND I AM SURE ALEC IS FEELING VERY BAD AND EMBARRASSED ABOUT HIS BEHAVIOR (EVEN BEFORE THIS WAS RELEASED). WE DO NOT KNOW WHY HE FELT PUSHED TO THE LIMIT AND ANGER CONTROL IS SOMETHING THAT HE NEEDS TO WORK ON IN HIS LIFE AND I AM SURE HE KNOWS THIS.

HOWEVER, KIM BASINGER HAS BEEN TRYING TO KEEP THIS DAUGHTER FROM HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FATHER FROM DAY ONE. ELEVEN YEARS, COME ON. THIS FATHER CONTINUES TO FIGHT FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS DAUGHTER. YOU KNOW WHO WILL PAY IN THE LONG RUN....THE LITTLE GIRL. WHAT YOU DISH OUT, YOU GET BACK TWO FOLDS AND THE MOTHER WILL SEW HER OWN MESS. THAT LITTLE GIRL IS GOING TO MOST LIKELY HAVE A MESSED UP RELATIONSHIP WITH MEN, BECAUSE HER MOTHER HAS DONE NOTHING TO PORTRAY THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH TWO PARENTS. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STAY MARRIED AND BE UNHAPPY, BUT YOU OWED THAT LITTLE GIRL TWO PARENTS.

Posted by: Janice | April 20, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Baldwin should go to jail for child abuse. Why didn't he leave the country when he said he would, oh wait he does not understand the concept of keeping your word. Perhaps now he has shown his true colors his fan base will deminish and I won't be subjected to hearing what his ignorant a$@ has to say. GO AWAY ALEC

Posted by: JM | April 20, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

The only posts in support of Alec seem to be from people who don't know how to spell the words pretty, or acknowledge. How about this, if you don't know the difference between their, there, and they're, don't post your thoughts (they're not educated enough for anyone to waste (not waist) their time reading.

As for Alec, I finally know what Kim was referring to when she gave an interview back in the early 90s suggesting that it was for the mental health and safety of her daughter that she left Alec. Alec said he was going to make it impossible for Kim to go and he's done it. What's worse, from the sound of that tape I'd say he's come very close to being liable for criminal threat (against his own daughter)!

There are five elements to criminal threat: 1. the accused willfully threatened to commit the crime that will result in death or great bodily injury; and 2. the accused made the threat with the specific intent that it be taken as a threat; and 3. the threat is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey a gravity of purpose and the immediate prospect of execution; and 4. the threat actually caused sustained fear in the victim; and 5. the sustained fear was reasonable.

I hope Kim's attorneys use this tape to make sure she walks away with full custody. Alec doesn't deserve to have contact with his daughter and she's old enough to decide whether or not she wants to answer her phone.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I have been dealing with children for years. Given that, and hearing the frustration in Alec Baldwin's voice, and the fact that this is a private matter that for some reason Kim Basinger chose to make public (possibly due to a contempt of court charge), I truly have to wonder what judge decided that this unstable mother should have major control over the emotional well-being over a child. I have heard rants of frustration like Mr. Baldwin expressed, in what he felt to be a personal conversation, before, and in very public places. He is no different than any other Father (or Mother)who sees their child manipulated by an emotionally ill and distructive parent that has physical custody. Truth be known, if there were such thing as emotional abuse.....this is one child that is the victim of that. A definate change in custody should have been considered a long time ago. Mr. Baldwin sounds passionate in his want of a relationship with his daughter. On the other hand, a Mother who allows personal statements made in the heat of the moment does more damage to the child than good. Ms. Basinger should loose custody just under these pretenses. Stardom has nothing to do with parenthood. Michael Jackson should not have his children (no matter how great of an artist I think he is) and as actors, I have enjoyed Kim Basinger and Alec Baldwin in movies they have been in. Do these feelings factor in to their personal lives and interaction with their children? No. Michael Jackson AND Kim Basinger should loose custody, no matter what kind of sympathy they attempt to draw from respective publicity stunts, utilizing their children as their safety zone.

Posted by: Susan | April 21, 2007 2:06 AM | Report abuse

I listened to this tape - it sounds like this kid is giving him 'times' that she can be reached - only to not be available! His downfall is the 'little pig' business...otherwise, I feel like he was communicating very clearly that he is her father and her actions are devastating...he obviously is trying to hold on his child - and he sounds desperate......KB is an absolute b*tch for releasing this tape.

Posted by: kl | April 21, 2007 2:22 AM | Report abuse

This is why the internet is ridiculous. People take a personal story and then judge either the mother or the father for something which is a personal matter with them. Alec Baldwin is a human being who makes mistakes. I am not saying he was right or wrong, I am just saying we all make mistakes in life. I am sure he loves his child as all parents love their child. It is easy to hear something like that and judge it and be shocked. My point? People make mistakes and it is not up to us to judge them for it. Alec Baldwin seems like a nice person who lost his cool. It happens. Instead of judging him, why not pray and hope that he heals the relationship he has with his daughter so they can be happy with each other.

Posted by: Victor Leon | April 21, 2007 5:36 AM | Report abuse

To byoolin who posted at 8:45 yesterday morning...you disgust me. I listened to the audio clip and started reading what people had to say about it and immediately felt more disgusted than I already had. How dare you say that he had a good point? He has the problem with Kim Bassinger and has NO RIGHT to speak to his daughter that way. Why does it matter what Kim is doing? It doesn't. You're either a man with no respect for women or a woman with a major daddy complex who has fallen in line with men who treat her like dirt and then you make excuses for them.

For those of you who side with Alec on this one you need help. I feel horrible for Ireland, nobody should ever talk to their own children like it. I grew up in a house where we had 4 teenagers in the house at the same time and my single mother NEVER spoke to us that was, as frustrated as I'm sure she was. There is no excuse for the behavior and I'm glad this tape got out....I hope he loses all rights to his daughter.

P.S. rest assured I will no longer watch 30 Rock

Posted by: Crista | April 21, 2007 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Alec baldwin is a controlling, abusive narcissist. I know this because he has the same personality as my ex husband who was diagnosed as such by the forensic in an equally ugly (but not publicized) custody battle. The judge called him a "misanthropist" (woman hater)but gave him every other weekend with the kids and the law guardian told me that they can always go for therapy when they get older. Because these "Fathers rights" organizations made no room for exceptions in the cases of abusive fathers, the children are forced to suffer.

Posted by: stellablue | April 21, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin sounds like a man, much like my ex-husband, who has trouble controlling his temper/behavior and has gone far too long without being held accountable. I agree with the other bloggers who have said that it is NEVER acceptable to speak to and threaten any child in the manner that Baldwin did. I don't care how frustrated you are or that you blame the mother for your relationship failure with your child. I hope he loses visitation rights or at the very least is required to have supervised visitation. As for Kim Bassinger leaking the tape, as long as she accepts the consequences of that behavior as well, you go girl!

Posted by: heyitsamy | April 21, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Why should this ranting lunatic have the right to "seal" a tape where he threatens to "straighten her a## out"? Sure, parents can have angry moments with children, but this a good example of his behavior with both women and children, and I am seeing Baldwin's "charm" in a new way. He is abusive verbally, and threatening to show up solely to abuse her.
I wouldn't be surprised if the supportive comments here are by
paid posters.

Posted by: SecretTapes | April 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Gosh - how can anyone listen to that vm and not understand that to Alec it's all about him. Even his apology (did he really think it was one??) was about his feelings, his frustrations and what parenting skills is he talking about?? He's so obviously use to everyone bowing and saying Yes, Sir, Mr. Baldwin. I mean how stupid can one man be. His daughter does not want to see him so to resolve the issue he calls her names and threatens her. Bassinger no doubt also fits the Hollywood elitist but maybe she has good reasons for not allowing the father to see his daughter. All Baldwin had to do was say I'm sorry - I was wrong but I doubt he's ever been able to do that in his life. He has a pattern of being out of line with his temper. His wife does not. Don't give him a pass just because you like his character and don't get confused with the character and the real person.

Posted by: Mary | April 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

What a can of worms, Liz!!

Posted by: Barb | April 21, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey Alec: I am a 55 y/o twice divorced man who once was in your position with the Ugly Divorce and Psycho Queen of an Ex wife. My daughter was 9 and my son was 12 when this happened, both now are Thankfully, Employed and College Graduates. It was ugly between my ex and myself. You are a world wide popular actor. Many great rolls as I admire your work, to me anyway. You my friend are in the Greatest Roll, a Once in a Lifetime Opportunity. The Roll of a DAD! Man WTF are you NOT Thinking? See your children do not have to suck up to you as many of your Industry leaches do. The Only
Award we get as a DAD. Is that our children grow up to be successful in all they do. Especially girls Alec. Would you want your daughter to be with a man who talked down to her, like someone we know did? Fk No! I'm sure. You and your brothers will do a dance on his head.
There are NO Do Overs in this Roll as DAD.
Man, what the "Big They" say, Don't Believe the Hype. I'm sure plenty of people around you to blow smoke up your's all the time. What is between adults, no matter how your ex pushes your buttons. Get a hold of that then the buttons quit getting pushed. Remember: Anger unspoken is Never Regretted. Alec Regain Your Self Respect.
Let Them Talk. BTW my 25 y/o daughter lives with me for over nine years. P.S. YOU and Your Ex Mrs. Save your Energy for All Things Good to All Good People. Try anyway. sincerely PJF

Posted by: Peter J Frady | April 21, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

If he hates his daughter, as he obviously does, why not just let her go? And if he thinks he can berate her so viciously and make it up to her later, he's completely deluded. The man is utterly unsuited to be a parent. I'm amazed that so many people think this is "understandable" behavior. All of us have yelled at our kids, but to insult her and threaten her with violent harm -- he wasn't talking about a spanking -- is unforgiveable, and he can rest assured she never will.

Posted by: John Doze | April 22, 2007 4:04 AM | Report abuse

He is a classic narcissistic sociopath who needs to control those who he deems to be weak and powerless. In his mind when Ireland neglected to answer the phone, it was a direct challenge to his power to control her. He is incapable of "letting her go," because then in his sick mind his ex-wife would "win." It is no wonder his ex wants to impede his contact with Ireland, she is probably all too familiar with his controlling abusive ways.

Posted by: rrp | April 22, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Given his behavior, his rants, and his total lack of self control, I APPLAUDE Kim for keeping her child from him!!!!! It is apparent that he should be kept from his child for her safety, her sanity and to allow for as normal an upbringing as possible given her biological "cards dealt".

This man has SERIOUS issues.

The REALLY sad thing is the fool doesn't even know how old his only child is???!!?!?!

It gives ALL new meaning to the phrase "ANY man can be a Father...but it takes someone special to be a Daddy"!!!!!!!

Posted by: Debe | April 22, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the people who are defending Alec Baldwin!! Is that how you treat your children? No matter how bad the ex is, it doesnt excuse abuse like that. I heard the videotape and in the end he sounds like he's threatening violence against her. Seriously people! You think that's normal? Thank god kim Basinger released the tape. It's the best way to protect herself and her child.

Posted by: anon | April 22, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

... I wonder why she does not pick up the phone?!

Posted by: Shawn Marie | April 22, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

He is wondering why his daughter doesn't answer the phone? Is he serious? He is taking out his rage on his eleven or twelve year old daughter,(which by the way he doesn't even know her age) What is wrong with this picture? Alec don't blame your insecurities on your child and the reason she is scared of you is because of your ex? No it's because of you. You have obviously acted in to many horror films. If I were your ex I would see to it you never talked to your daughter again.

Posted by: Diane Pogue | April 23, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

what a victim with a capital V!

Posted by: the hoxton dog | April 23, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Who are we to judge Alec? Each of us wants to jump on some band wagon and condem a person for what he or she has said. (I compell each of you to imagine if it were you who was being kept away from your child and a court order was REQUIRED just to speak to your child on the phone.) I've heard plenty of parents "lose thier cool" for the dumbest reasons e.g. spilt milk. If the responses I've read in this blog stand true across the board...there are very few people in today's world who are suitable parents let alone custodians. What I see is a vendictive soon-to-be-ex-wife who is using a child to obtain her own objective. This plan is effective in accomplishing only a few things: 1)destroying the childhood of an innocent child. 2) Hurting a parent who loves thier child. 3) Ensuring the child and (in this case) the Father share thier love for each other in the very near future. Children are not as stupid as the person who uses them as a pawn. They know what is happening and, at a young age, are powerless to express thier pain. Not to fear...one day they will express thier childhood pains and regrets. I pray Kim can handle the reprocutions that are sure to come. Everyone in this country should read up on PARENTAL ALIENATION SYNDROME (P.A.S.) it is destroying our society. Parent's like Kim need serious help and are directly responsible for the actions of the child, both now and when the child is an adult and requires psyco-therapy for what they were forced in to. Parent's like Alec need to relax, be a good parent (father), tell your daughter how much you love her...she will remember. Focus on you and your daughter, don't put her in the middle of a divorce. Show your daughter the highest amount of integrity, don't lower yourself to Kim's level. Your daughter needs one good parent...do right by your child, act, speak and think positive. BE THE BETTER PARENT>

Posted by: J. McNeill | April 23, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Been there, done that! I've lost my temper with my child on several occasions--once when she was a "pre-teen", and today she and I are the best of friends. Children are quite resilient, and yes at times they can drive you batty. The fact that this became public is more outrageous than Baldwin's ranting on the phone. We all do things we regret, and he will definitely regret this one. I think Kim owes her daughter an apology for airing what was obviously a bad "call" on the part of the father (no pun intended). But, let's face it: this family needs help, not criticism. Remember what the Good Lord said: "He who is without sin cast the first stone."

Posted by: G Kairus | April 23, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

YOU HYPOCRITICAL MORONS WITH THE DOUBLE STANDARDS.

YOU BLAME THE WOMAN FOR THE MAN'S LUNATIC RAGING BEHAVIOR?? Of course.
1. You do not KNOW that she "leaked" it - in fact the first day before AB admitted it was him - people like you claimed it wasn't!
2. If some maniac threatened you and your child - who have not been protected from him the past - are you actually pretending that when the lunatic hand feeds you the perfect evidence of what you have seen many times before - you are going to try to HIDE it to cover up for him????
3. very simple - HE moved away from the child and the child's home/city - I know with SOOOO many of you who don't give a D about children (and women's) welfare and safety that is no big deal - but some of us actual will not make execuses because he is a white rich celebrity (liberal) male that some people actually find attractive. He b-tches that KB is keeping his daughter from him - but he moved 3,000 miles away from his daugther's home - I know the child planned that too, it's HER fault - "the rude little. . ." that he moved away from her !

Future Ted Bundy? I say that because the word SOCIOPATH has come to mind - about AB for YEARS.

Oh I know - any enemy of my enemy is my friend??
You all (the AB execusers/apologists) would embrace Hitler if he were here and would join your (President) Bush bashing party.

Posted by: AB - RE: A-HOLE | April 23, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I believe the media and all it's commentators are confused. Did not Kim Basinger exploit her 11 year old daughter by releasing this "message"? Isn't this classified as "family business" and not NBC's? Steve Capus speaks with forked tongue. Strange how all the judgement is going against Alec Baldwin.

Raising my 2 daughters alone after divorce, I'm here to tell you my girls would have been thrilled to hear from their father. No phone calls, no birthday cards, no address, no nothing.

Ireland is old enough to turn on her phone, answer her father's call at their pre-planned time, and definitely be respectful. This is, unless her mother is involved in her poor behavior. I believe the Judge needs to look at both sides of this issue. Frankly, I believe Ireland needs to be taught some manners and to show her devoted father some respect. She should consider herself very lucky to have him. Her mother should be relieved of her parental duties. She gets no blue ribbon for parenting.

Posted by: Annie | April 23, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Annie - God help everyone who has to deal with you! Lucky to have him? If you actually believe this, you are so sick that I can cry for your children.
If your POOR daughters learned about acceptable behavior from you. . . the are apt to become victims at the hands of domestic violence - oh wait, if what you wrote reflects your real "feeling" that probably already have been victimized - BY YOU. So SAD!

Posted by: to annie | April 23, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I have been a big fan of Alec Baldwin for a long time and still am. I feel his pain. I remember screaming and cursing at my son, whom I love dearly, when he was in his teens and I had reached a boiling point at his actions. After the incident, I told him that if I didn't care, I wouldn't have bothered. He understood my anger. He respected me for jumping down his throat. And to this day, we have a close father-son relationship that is also a strong friendship. Releasing the audio of Alec's statement was irresponsible, vicious and downright moronic. And it's caused my indifferent opinion of Ms. Basinger to plummet to a deep low. Stay strong, Alec. We love ya. And I honestly believe that your daughter does, too.

Posted by: Dave Fey | April 23, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

So you are finding comfort in your despicable behavior by finding a soul-mate in Alec Baldwin - and apparently you also find comfort in what must be your misogynist attitude toward women - your POOR son!

Posted by: DAVE FEY | April 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

No matter what Kim Basinger did or how mad he is at her, there is no excuse for what Alec did to his young child. Child abuse is not just physical, what Alec did is emotional child abuse plain and simple and there is no justification for it.

And his reaction, that he should have used different words is weak and self serving. Child abuse is child abuse, and he should be viewed as what he is, an emotional child abuser. I don't defend Kim, but the argument over his abuse being made public, is at least we now know what he is, and steps can be taken to protect an impresionable young girl from his type of abuse.

Posted by: CharlesFromTexas | April 23, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Amen Charles from Texas.

Posted by: scott | April 24, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

1st I don't understand why Alec talks about"getting to a phone" to call at a specific time. Is there some reason as to why he does not have a cell phone???

2nd: yes, his language stinks, but this appears to have been an ongoing problem and he finally lost it. It is very rude in the cell phone age to not answer a pre-planned call. An 11 year old should understand this.

3rd: Yes, the voice is Baldwin's. Proof is that he admitted to it and apologized.

Posted by: Geoff | April 25, 2007 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. Maybe Alec should move back to the area where his daughter lives (and has always lived) and then he can get a regular job (if he doesn't have enough money saved to live on) just like millions of divorced Americans with kids!

He & Kim have been divorced for years, since Ireland was very young. He should have stayed in her life until the problems were ironed out, or at least until he had solidified a good relationship with his daughter. Then it wouldn't matter what mama says about papa, she'd know for herself what kind of man he is.

I am so sick of hearing Hollywoodies whine, whine, whine! Oh boo-hoo! You live far away from your child and you can't build a good relationship with her ... because of her MOTHER? Oh puh-lease!

This is what happens when money and fame are more important than your kids!

It took years for me and my ex to iron out our problems ... and lemme tell you it was nasty for a while ... but he was always here, always available to our daughter. They spent a lot of time together (not court appointed phone calls or once every two month visits). He was HERE for her.

And, as is usually the case, time passed and me and the ex have a decent relationship (not great, but decent) and he and our daughter have an AWESOME relationship.

Because he was HERE. Consistently. Any parent knows that you have to be there to make it work. A phone call or an email just doesn't cut it.

And, whoever released that tape to the public is an *$%#!! It's been apparent for years that Alec has a bad temper, a big mouth, and says things before he thinks ... AND it's been known for years that Kim is agoraphobic and has bizarre fear issues. That tape definitely should have been presented to a judge, but ONLY a judge! For crying out loud, doesn't the person who released the tape realize that the only person who'll be hurt is Ireland? Kids can be very cruel at her age, and I can't imagine the teasing she's getting from some mean kids at school!

Hey Alec and Kim, take Judge Judy's advice: You're supposed to love your kids more than you hate each other!!!

Posted by: CC | April 25, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

HOW can anyone defend what Alec Balwdwin said to his daughter. As the father of a 12 year old girl,some of this feedback make me hope to God these people never have children. Unfortantly if they do it will probably be up to society to try to help them in the future.

Posted by: dave | April 25, 2007 4:13 AM | Report abuse

C'mon, this wasn't the first time Baldwin was heard verbally abusing his kid. On one occasion, several airport employees reportedly witnessed him screaming at Ireland in the airport because he didn't like the way she packed her bag. Her face was red and streaming with tears and he was yelling, "Why did you pack your bag like this? I'll f***ing kill you if you do this again."

And it's supposed to be "in the best interest of the child" to spend more time with this jerk who can't help making it all about HIM? He doesn't need any help alienating his daughter . . . or anyone else for that matter.

Here's a thought: how do you suppose the conversation would have gone if she HAD picked up the phone???

Posted by: Christie | April 25, 2007 4:14 AM | Report abuse

Been plenty mad at my daughter, but never called her a PIG! How the hell can anyone defend that?

Posted by: jim | April 25, 2007 4:20 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Christie

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2007 4:24 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe some people are defending Alec Baldwin. Obviuosly they are both bad parents but when is it ever acceptable to say those horrible things to a child. She is the victim and she was made that way by her father and mother. I wish people had to go through extensive training to have a child. The world would be a much better place and probably a lot less populated!

Posted by: Mz Jonz | April 25, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I think more children should be spoken to like that if they have it coming.

Posted by: Jimmy L. | April 25, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I find it hard to believe after all that this child has been through that this is still an issue. I find it even harder to believe that a father would talk to his own daughter this way on a message and call her a thoughtless pig and threaten her in this way. I imagine she was scared to death. I know I would not have been around on the 20th to great his plane. I would have gone directly to my attorney. He needs to think about what his actions are doing to his daughter and forget all about his ex and hurting her. It isn't about that anymore....

Posted by: Barbara | April 25, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

No adult human- being that is
rasing a child into this World
should damage emotionaly the child the way Alex Bldwin has done to a 11 year old daughter.
If he wants to straighten some-one out come and see me, Mr
baldwin you are an arrogant
movie pig.Rember only their kind can produce their kind.
Now I must apologize to Irland.

Posted by: Alvin | April 26, 2007 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Alec literally threatened his daughter so I don't blame Kim for releasing the tape. What's with all you F.A.G.s (Film Actor Guild members) standing up for Alec? The guy's obviously a loon. If this is not proof enough, there is no hope for you.

Posted by: Smart Alec | April 26, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I still don't really understand the rant that Alec left on that machine. I to, went through hell trying to see my daughter for 12 years before she was finally old enough to think for her self. I never once flipped out on my daughter or blamed her. Because of the crap my ex put me through I had a hard time seeing my daughter. I wasn't going to allienate her by calling her names and blaming her. I did rant at the ex but never at my daughter. That being said I can understand what Alec is gong through. My own daughter did not treat me well at times, but I understood that it was her mothers manipulation that was the reason. My wife has suggested the possiblility that this tape is misrepresented through some type of splicing technology. Now that, I could beleive.

Posted by: Terry | April 26, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Why make a big deal about nothing? This kid is rich and has very little to worry about. You know she will get the best of everything ... from the clothes she wears, to the car she will drive, to the education she will get. It will be first class all the way. Don't have to feel sorry for her she will survive. In other places in this world bombs are exploding overhead and girls have to sell their body just to survive. So what's the big deal if you are called a "nappy headed ho" or "thoughtless little pig".

Posted by: LuckyYouLiveInTheUSA | April 27, 2007 5:29 AM | Report abuse

Why make a big deal about nothing? This kid is rich and has very little to worry about. You know she will get the best of everything ... from the clothes she wears, to the car she will drive, to the education she will get. It will be first class all the way. Don't have to feel sorry for her she will survive. In other places in this world bombs are exploding overhead and girls have to sell their body just to survive. So what's the big deal if you are called a "nappy headed ho" or "thoughtless little pig".

Posted by: LuckyYouLiveInTheUSA | April 27, 2007 5:31 AM | Report abuse

obviously, many of these writers have not experienced the manipulation that an insecure parent will go to, to maintain control of their child and retaliate against the child's other parent. Behind the scene comments made, phone ringers turned off (unbeknownst to the child), its all part of the insecurity of the controlling parent. The victim, is the child. The intent behind the act is meant to cause pain for the parent seeking to communicate with their child.
Divorce always hurts the children.
Alex responded just exactly as his ex desired to further her purposes to alienate his child.
Looking forward to reading Mr. Baldwins book. Alienation is a crime against a child.

Posted by: G K | April 27, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I was married to a man who talked to his children very much like Mr. Baldwin. My children (grown) no longer have any relationship with him. He has never seen his grandson. Of course, it's all my fault that he was a mean, belitting parent. There was no way in the world I could get along with him, and I feel sorry for Kim Basinger and sympathize that she has had to deal with this moron for so long.

Posted by: Seejay | April 27, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

As the mother of 2 very precious daughters, my ex and I were very careful to not allow our divorce to affect them as little as possible. We continued to be parents and act accordingly in their best interest. After all this was the man I chose to give me these 2 girls. Had I done everything to keep him from his daughters as Kim Basinger is doing, I would have at some point in time paid very dearly. Ireland will someday retailate against her mother for her selfishness in keeping her from her dad. To Kim...grow up and stop the selfishness or you WILL regret it......

Posted by: E Good | April 27, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Kim Basinger comes off as rude, arrogant, and self-absorbed. Alec has done nothing to not be allowed visitation rights. When you do not allow your child to see their father, you are wrong. Unless the father is abusing the child, there is no harm in letting her see him. I'm sure their relationship would be much better if they were allowed to be together, face to face.

Shame on you, Kim! I bet you didn't think this would backfire. I've lost a lot of respect for her.

As for Alec, he's frustrated. It's wrong not to let a father see their child. What did he ever do?

If she can prove abuse, then fine I understand. If not, then let the guy see his kid! It takes time and spending time together to heal wounds. They need to see eachother and spend time before any of their issues will ever be fixed. It's not right for a kid not to see their father.

Posted by: Mommy of 2 | April 29, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

We all get angry at times, I have blown up much worse than Alec at family and coworkers when they deserved it. People who condem Alec schould grow up and get over it. Tim for everybody to grow up

Posted by: mark cross | April 29, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

WOW where do all you perfect parents come from, stepford, and as far as spelling and grammer go they have nothing to do with a valid point or opinion it only reflects on the inequlity of delivering education to all you smug and arrogant people can not ever know the torture of being kept from a child you love and have loved ever so dearly only because it is the nature of women to be scornful and vindictive. It is the family court system that women are allowed to abuse that is responsible for the mental abuse of so many men and children in this contry. bobbcatt58@verizon.net I live with this torture every day.

Posted by: pissedoffbastards.com | May 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

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