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New Spot: "Troops Support Ron Paul"

Republican Ron Paul is out with a new TV ad, set to run in New Hampshire through Tuesday's primary, stressing his military credentials.

Patriotic music booms. Soldiers salute. The announcer begins: "A proud military veteran who served our nation. Ron Paul salutes and supports our troops who protect and defend our freedom." A flag waves. The announcer continues, "But who do the troops support? Ron Paul. The record shows they're standing up for him." The ad concludes: "Ron Paul is their choice for commander-in-chief."

His campaign spokesman Jesse Benton said Paul "has long been a praised as staunch advocate for veterans' issues." Still, he "wants to bring the troops home from Iraq" because he would rather America "never again sends out brave soldiers to war unless doing so is necessary for our defense," according to Benton. Whether his anti-war message will appeal to New Hampshire veterans is hard to say.

-- Sarah Lovenheim

By Washington Post editors |  January 4, 2008; 5:12 PM ET Ron Paul
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I haven't yet met a member of the US military who believes the invasion of Iraq was justified. 5 years after this invasion, an effort to bring home 150,000 troops and the tens of thousands of paid contractors costing the US taxpayer billions of dollars each month, is an appropriate way forward. Ron Paul definitely has it right on the Iraq issue, and none of the other candidates do.

Posted by: GV Ranch | January 5, 2008 10:49 AM

I am ex- Navy vet and it is refreshing to finally have a leader represent what our Department of Defense (Defense emphasized) is supposed to do.

It is disturbing to see that by a few strokes of a pen we have now become the Nation of Offense- not the USA I know and love and served.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2008 10:54 AM

most of the other candidates, i think, are into the war thing so they can direct lucrative defense contracts to their supporters. unfortunately, this is the way it has been for a long time. those that yell the loudest for war are the closest to the rear lines.

ron paul is the only candidate whose views have remained perfectly consistent in opposing a war that is not declared.

Posted by: boyd venable | January 5, 2008 10:55 AM

That Ad was great!

That Ad needs to be broadcast in ALL of the states. If the American people learned that our military supports Ron Paul, then that would cause them to take a second look to see what all the fuss is about.

Go Ron Paul!

Posted by: david from texas | January 5, 2008 10:59 AM

Ron Paul is a decent, honest person, and I'm not surprised to hear that other veterans and those currently serving feel the same way. I think Ron Paul will keep America safe and strong, and he has my vote.

Posted by: Rob | January 5, 2008 11:06 AM

Good ad. I'm retired military and what we're asking our men and women to do these days is disgraceful. We need to change our foreign policy to end perpetual war.

Posted by: michael kelly | January 5, 2008 11:20 AM

One more way to support Ron Paul is to muster our troops to encourage advertising dollars AWAY from FOX ("Faux") News:

Read "FOX News Sunday: 'We Distort - You Deride':"
http://www.nolanchart.com/article872.html

Posted by: creator | January 5, 2008 11:24 AM

I'm an Army vet and can't stand this pre-emptive war based on false claims by our "leader", the merger of corporations and government, spying on citizens, fear mongering, turning the definition of patriotic words inside ou........hey, I think my grandfather fought some european guys that were doing this stuff in the late '30's.

Posted by: Un-spun | January 5, 2008 11:34 AM

"Whether his anti-war message will appeal to New Hampshire veterans is hard to say."

ahh the seed uncertainty is planted by the MSM yet again - for the Iraq war and the soldier's view, why don't you try polling our soliders - since polling seems to be "the measure of everything"? Oh yeah the polls in Iowa show Ghouliani in the mid teens write up to the week before the vote and then he suddenly drops to single digits (trying to manufacture votes possibly but wanting to be in line with results in the end)?

As an army veteran of three years I can say all of the soldiers I know think Iraq should be ended in an orderly withdrawal of our troops. They all see it for the industrial complex war that I believe it is. McCain's comments are not reflective of anyone I know (including the 70% of America against the war - according to polls of course). I don;t think they are reflective of reality either. Just today I saw an Iraqi soldier shot two of our troops.....

But of course better for the Washed-up Post to marginalize Dr. Paul with "hard to say". You forgot "long shot". The MSMs are being exposed and are becoming more meaningless by the day. It is very easy to talk to people I meet and demonstrably show how the MSM is packaging certain candidates, ignoring the Iraq war (2007 = most US Casualties), and the latest Brittany news (to keep us distracted). Now Faux News decides it will cut Ron Paul even though he beat Ghouliani and leads Thompson in NH. The NH Republican party writes a strong letter to Fox asking for inclusion. The (soft) facist regime decides who will be invited stating "space restrictions" - like we are all stupid or something.... We know the real answer is (this equation press + corp + govt + Fed Reserve = our "representative govt").

Faux news made the 10s of thousands of Ron Paul supporter's job of exposing the MSM that much easier - even Gretta Van Susteren (sp?) of Faux stated Ron Paul should be invited to the debate on 1/6/08.

Want to learn about the Washed Up Post, NY Times and all the MSMS? Take the time for yourself and your kids to watch a film. go to Google, click on the video tab for search and put in "Manufacturing Consent". I thought it started off a little slow but wow what an eye opener! I hope you take the time for our economy, our men and women in Iraq and our future generations...also the answers to the economy and what is going on if you go to sites like shadowstats(dot)com.
Here's to America - the scent of rEVOLution is in the air.......

This article author should be ashamed of themselves as the transparency is so obvious....

Posted by: sacman41 | January 5, 2008 11:37 AM

Ron Paul is obviously the best choice for President.Unfortunately the powers that be won't allow it.He stands against their beliefs.

He fights for our Constitution,while others are trying to slowly do away with it.

He believes in hard money,not money that can be printed up so easily.

He believes in a smaller government,this is a great idea in itself,making it more localized.

I also like his viewpoint on abolishing the Income Tax.This could be done by reducing the size of government.

I wish him the best of luck,but unless he has the techs of the electronic voting machines behind him he doesn't have a chance.

Posted by: Travis from Ohio | January 5, 2008 11:39 AM

Thank goodness this video is running. I hope it gets on every major network and the link is sent to every email out there. I am an Air Force Sgt and i support Ron Paul. I have shared his veiws with my military friends and i would say a large majority of them like him. Some of them may not have heard of him before, but after learning more about him they want to support them (thanks to BIG media ignoring him). And i have had some who gave me a whole hearted "thanks" because i helped them "find" him.

Posted by: Dallyman | January 5, 2008 11:42 AM

Ron Paul has it right!!! wake up America. what is so weird about wanting America for Americans and defending our country, not gov't contractors profits. seriously. All Ron Paul wants is to make goverment less corrupt and out of us, "We The People"'s lives.

Posted by: helpAmerica | January 5, 2008 11:44 AM

U.S. soldiers hate the Iraq war, because they're among the few Americans who see first-hand the extreme corruption by U.S. officials in Iraq, the wasteful spending, and the futility of the war.

For a great satire on the war on terror, as well as the president and the mainstream media, see this YouTube music video from the international award-winning zombie musical feature film, "Song of the Dead." It' stars horror movie veteran Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) as the president of the U.S. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits from DVD sales to the Ron Paul campaign. Go to:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw

Posted by: mketcher | January 5, 2008 11:49 AM

Ron Paul or the just around the corner police state. Your choice.
Google video: Alex Jones 9/11 Road to Tyranny

Posted by: O'Brien | January 5, 2008 11:50 AM

Bring our troops home now or stay for 50-100 years as proposed by McCain? Hrmmm, tough choice. Think I'll go with Ron Paul.

Posted by: robert clark | January 5, 2008 11:55 AM

I served a few years in the Navy in my 20s and I have been against this war in Iraq for years. If Ron Paul is elected I would actually consider going back into the Navy as an officer.

Let's get our military back in the business of defending this country, not using it as a profiteering tool.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2008 11:57 AM

42 presidents had the wisdom to not start war with nations that had not attacked us.

42

Can we please elect someone who will reinstate the Department of Defense?

Posted by: Darren D. | January 5, 2008 12:08 PM

Take it upon yourselves. Get out there and let everybody know about Dr. Paul.

It's our responsibility as citizens of this country to do what is right.

Let us spread the message, because no one else will.

Posted by: Rick | January 5, 2008 12:11 PM

This Youtube video is one of the best, and there are hundreds with the same message from our troops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suk-t46soz8

Ron Paul has been right all along. Our troops, and the American citizens deserve better. We need to bring our troops home now, and Ron Paul is the only one that will do that if elected. Huckabee, McCain, and Giuliani are all puppets and are being stuffed down our throats in order to keep big government, and profit making corporations wealthy, and unfortunately, this is being done by using our soldiers and the American taxpayers.

America please wake up!

I am a former United States Air Force member, and I know McCain is not representing our troops, and I am also highly offended when McCain says the surge is working, IT'S NOT!!! We have Iraqi soldiers that our very own Army has trained killing our own troops right now, 2 of our soldiers just killed by them today, and these were not accidental. My God America, please come to your senses, vote for our Republic, for our Liberty and Freedom, vote for RON PAUL.

http://ronpaul2008.com

Posted by: Tess | January 5, 2008 12:12 PM

This is definitely one of the best ads his campaign has put out. He needs to put out another ad quoting John McCain as saying Ron Paul is the most honest man in Washington.

Posted by: Timur Rozenfeld | January 5, 2008 12:22 PM

Ron, To help save Social security, medicare, pension plans and jobs. Have you consider having a manditory RMD (required Min. distribution of 2% of all qualified monies IRA's Profit sharing plans) when any individual recieves Social security or Medicare. They would have to take a distribution emmdiately. Example if a person has a $100,000 in a IRA and they are 65 and recieving Social security and medicare. They would have to take out $2,000 now. If that person had $2,000,000.00 that person would have to take out $40,000. This would create the largest spending wave in history which would create job's, generate taxable revenue to help support Social security, medicare, and pensions plans. Most importantly it will get the thosands of people who abosoluty do not need these benefits out of line. If there is over 10 trillion plus in Qualified plans, 2% rmd would create min of 1/2 a trillion in sending and save over 1/2 trillion in benefits to people who will jump out of line to avoid taking out money until 70 1/2. People will have the choice if they want to pay income tax or not. If the average return of 4 1/2% on a fix account. With a 2% rmd, 2 1/2 is still left for infation. Just a thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 5, 2008 12:24 PM

Sorry for the incorrect link from my previous post, please view this, it will either confirm your stance on Iraq, or open your eyes to what are troops really want and what our country needs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

This is what our troops really think of Iraq if you really want to know.

Posted by: tess | January 5, 2008 12:29 PM

As an veteran of the war, its refreshing to see a presidential candidate that actually isnt a puppet to the world agenda.

This war is not justified and it was a mistake going in there...

Posted by: Omar | January 5, 2008 12:33 PM

Look, I'm in the National Guard and currently in college. I'm on my way to earning a degree so I can become an officer. Let me tel you, the life of my fellow soldiers is not worth that of 100 Iraqis. Not even close. People talk about war like it's about statistics. It's not! Think about how you would feel if your buddy, father, mother, brother, sister, son or daughter were to be killed there. Would you be so willing to go send your other son or daughter?

Posted by: Andrew | January 5, 2008 12:34 PM

Despite the extraordinary national support, record setting fund raising and the historic turnout in Iowa, Dr. Paul has been EXCLUDED from the FOX NEWS debate on Sunday January 6th!!!

Everyday people support Ron Paul. Our solders support Ron Paul. Corporate American DOES NOT support Ron Paul. Big media does not support him.

DO NOT LET THE CORPORATE POLITICAL MACHINE DECIDE WHO WE CHOOSE TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY!!

Posted by: Chet | January 5, 2008 12:40 PM

Whether his anti-war message will appeal to New Hampshire veterans is hard to say."

- thanks for that insightful comment Sarah! the fact is, unless you are pro-war, there is appeal to an anti-war message, am i wrong?

Posted by: dan | January 5, 2008 1:13 PM

here is how you report the news regarding a new commercial or radio spot. sarah, take notes. . .
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS12688+05-Jan-2008+BW20080105

Posted by: dan | January 5, 2008 1:15 PM

Obama keeps talking about change. But what changes are he talking about? Where does he stand on issues? Nobody really knows because he just like to talk big like "We are one nation, one people, bla, bla...". Nothing specific. Everything in general. Obama is just a very good orator. But where's the substance? I still do not know what is he trying to change, and how he is going to do it.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who has very strong and clear stand in many issues and who is very consistent all these years. And Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who talks about our broken financial system, about the falling USD. All the other candidates have not said a word on this!

Vote for Ron Paul. He is a good man.

Posted by: freedom_lover | January 5, 2008 1:38 PM

The fact that all those of you who can see Ron Paul's point that the war is illegal and a war crime have not arrested your commaders all the way up to the president completely shocks me.

It tells me that you do not clearly understand as a member of the U.S. military your responsiblilty to protect the constitution of the United States from enemies foriegn and domestic.

I beg you to look around you to find the courage in your fellow soldiers to act as the restorers of our constitutional rights, to arrest president Bush, V.P. Cheney and the joint chiefs and their comrades in subverting the meaning of United States Constitution to that of toilet paper. I beg you act now!

Yours in Fidelity

Lloyd Hart

Posted by: Lloyd Hart | January 5, 2008 1:58 PM

Unfortunatly, if you've noticed, most Americans talk a good game about supporting vets and blah blah, but when it comes down to really being decent to them, its just rhetoric talk. 1500 homeless, on the street Iraq vets right now... suicides off the the scale. This government has got to get "right" or move over and get the hell out of the way. We the People are the only ones that can make a difference. No one man, even Ron Paul can put things right by themselves, we have to help. God I love this country and what it used to be and stand for.

Posted by: whitehorse | January 5, 2008 2:04 PM

The Paulnuts are again spamming everything.

Posted by: Fun4Sly | January 5, 2008 2:27 PM

"Hard to say" for who? Who, What, Where, When, Why... and now what effect the journalist thinks the 5W's have or a disclaimer by the journalist who isn't good enough with words to say.

The person who pointed out they don't know what Obama wants to change or how; He said he wants to solve every problem by thinking positive. That's what I read in his 'message'.

I heard a pundit yesterday say "Obama just keeps getting his message out." Reporter: "What's his Message?" Pundit: "His message is hope, and he needs to keep saying it in a positive way. He's delivering his message with real hope."

Ok, so it's hope? I 'hope' something will change?

lol I 'hope' no one holds their breath.

Go Ron Paul!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Posted by: Rhys | January 5, 2008 2:30 PM

Posted by: rp2008 | January 5, 2008 2:44 PM

"Long Shot"...attempt to marginalize Dr Paul.

We DO have a peaceful rEVOLution going and the enforcement arm of the american people's enemy is the MSM!! without the MSM comming across as "credible" and the "authoritative" source of facts, they wouldn't be able to turn our american brothers and sisters on each other. This is how the elite globalist keeps us divided and therefore weaker. The fact is that united for the constitution WE STAND.

Neutralize the MSM.

Contribute and vote Ron Paul!

Posted by: Trans-Mutant | January 5, 2008 2:45 PM

"The Paulnuts are again spamming everything."

Maybe that's because there alot of us.

Posted by: Craig | January 5, 2008 2:47 PM

Please watch this message from a soldier, I think it says it all.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Posted by: Carol | January 5, 2008 3:07 PM

I am a Daughter of a VIETNAM VETERAN! I can't think of anything more distasteful than the scorn put upon a Vietnam Veteran, Ron Paul.(i.e. banning him from the Faux News Debates and the media..don't even get me started)

I strongly support Ron Paul as do many other Daughters of Vietnam Veterans.

Support the troops, the constitution, and America--VOTE FOR RON PAUL!

I got friends over in Iraq and I want them HOME NOW!

Support Independent News ONLINE!
(I turned my TV off A LONG TIME AGO!)

www.dovv.net

Posted by: Daughter of Vietnam Vet | January 5, 2008 3:10 PM

hey, Fun4Sly, what makes us nuts? Loving our country and hating fake lying politicians who sell us, regular Americans, out so they can attain their selfish goals, whatever they may be. Well, heck... yeah, I'm nuts then... nuts for honesty, truth, intelligence, and the guts to stand by something that is right for America. Go Paul!

Posted by: pablo | January 5, 2008 3:12 PM

What amazes me is that now we have a policy of preemptive war that permeates this government when at one time we not only condemned other nations for the same actions, but fought against such nations with our blood and sweat.

Was Hitler justified in invading the Sudetenland to "liberate" Germanic peoples of that region, or was he justified in invading Poland because of a preceived threat from communists?

Are we so self-righteous that we believe that it is our right alone to invade or establish military bases around the world wihtout any consequences or stick our hand into a den of vipers without being biten? If we have the right, does all other nations also have the same right?

If Russia decided to once again establish bases on Cuba, do we now have the right to protest or attack since we have bases in Central Asian countries that border Russia?

What has happened to common-sense, what has happened to real American leadership in the world, leadership by example, leadership based on what is right, what is good?

Have we become such a base and common nation like the other nations of the world, even the nations we once condemned in the past for similar actions?

Posted by: Republicae | January 5, 2008 3:20 PM

Canadians LOVE Ron Paul! We get a lot of the same TV here in Canada and anyone that I know that discusses politics, Ron Paul is always at the tip of their tongue. A lot of Canadians are not big NAFTA fans either. I only wish I could donate to his campaign. Go Ron Paul!

Posted by: Canadian Ron Paul Revolutionary | January 5, 2008 3:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Watch this video. This is truth from the heart from one young concerned soldier.

God bless our troops --
bring them home now...

Great article and great RP commercial.

Go Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Collin 28 | January 5, 2008 3:50 PM

Twelve years as an Army Ranger. I support Paul because I took an oath to protect and defend the greatest document ever conceived by the mind of Man: The Constitution of the United States of America.

It is the sworn Duty of every service man to do the same. To do other wise is treason.

Posted by: Russell | January 5, 2008 4:02 PM

Ron Paul is the answer to this country's problems. I ask why our current President pocket vetoed the FY2008 National Defense Appropriations Bill which would authorize funding for needed equipment to protect the troops deployed to the Middle East and our wonderful Congress hasn't returned in emergency session to resolve the problem. We need a Commander and Chief who will use our military only in case of eminent danger to our country and our people. We are not the police force of the world. During all the B.S. going on with the Iowa Caucus and now New Hampshire primaries, how does the major news medias not think the pocket veto of a 666 billion dollar bill is not important enough to let the public become aware?

Posted by: Bob | January 5, 2008 4:17 PM

All you have to do is follow the money to know why we are at war in Iraq. Huge amounts of Debt=trillions to International Banker, Billions to Corporate Giants in Contracts, then billions more to rebuild the country, all the while it is making our US dollar about worthless.

Posted by: Ell | January 5, 2008 4:22 PM

As a US Marine Veteran - I fully support Ron Paul. Soo much so that he is the only person I have ever donated money too.

Semper Fi !

Posted by: Wes | January 5, 2008 4:25 PM

I was never in Iraq. But I served as a doctor in the US military overseas for three years, in Iceland. While there, we all did pretty much nothing in support of American defense. We just hung out serving each others needs at great expense to the taxpayer. There was no defense purpose. But there was lots of money wasted. The base has now been closed because someone finally saw the light. I think Dr. Paul sees the light faster than most in America. America's greatest enemy is the inane spread of collectivism/socialism in our own country, sponsored by our own citizens (Democrats and Republicans alike) who seem to ignore that socialism always fails, everywhere, in the biggest experiments in Human history (Stalin and Mao). America was built on the individual spirit, not on the whining collectivist masses. Ron Paul supports my desire for the government to get out of my way.

Posted by: John Hunt | January 5, 2008 4:28 PM

Lets not forget RP wants to do away with farming subsidies. Whats most shocking to me is Ron Paul reveived 10% of the vote in Iowa "FARMING COMMUNITY". This is truly amazing and a true victory for Dr. Paul. I am a Ron Paul supporter and I have had many doubts on how far he can go in the election, not anymore. Once some of the others drop out of the race Ron will receive more airtime and this is VERY GOOD NEWS. He coverts apathy into passion!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 5, 2008 4:34 PM

Wake Up America! Go Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Arley | January 5, 2008 4:43 PM

I believe the 2008 election is a war of competing ideologies: socialism vs. individual human liberty.

Dr. Paul is the lone advocate of individualism.

I believe some of us folks intuitively understand the risk we are facing with collectivism...and that is why passions run strong. I wrote a concise essay which may be of interest: http://toone.typepad.com/tooneguitars/2008/01/freedom.html

Posted by: Rick Toone | January 5, 2008 5:09 PM

Yes! Finally a true American, whom hasn't forgotten the cinstitution! That is the document that seperates the U.S.A. from everywhere else. We are still holding on to our rights: the right to bear arms, the right to freedom of speach, the right to congragate..All of the other candidates have forgotten if they ever knew...WE THE PEOPLE are America. THANKS RON PAUL!

Posted by: Annie | January 5, 2008 5:09 PM

Its a sad thing when we have come to the point that the Republican party that is hosting the primary has no say in who gets a say in the primary...everyone shouyld think very hard about this and being a moderate Republican I believe Ron Paul to be in the right and I will vote for him

Posted by: Greg Georgas | January 5, 2008 5:16 PM

It's really good to hear so much rational thinking from so many people.

Please do write Fox news and let them know that they will not decide our future president.

We the people will.

Posted by: Omar | January 5, 2008 5:19 PM

Ron Paul supports the troops? Really? Then why does he score an F when it comes to his voting record on issues that concern veterans and troops health care, body armor, pay and other benefits? The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America scores him as having one of the worst voting records in Congress when it comes to 'really' supporting the troops.
http://www.iava.org/temp-f-team
Scroll down to the very bottom and he is in the right column.
Ron Paul is a fraud and is a typical politician that will tell you what you want to hear in order to get elected.

Posted by: Dana | January 5, 2008 5:25 PM

Fox news is a Communist propaganda machine like they have in the Soviet Union. This is why they ban Ron Paul.

Posted by: Jay | January 5, 2008 5:28 PM

Posted by: Lars | January 5, 2008 5:42 PM

Dana....Why does he vote NO on any bill? First, are those bills for support of either Vets or troops embedded in other bills? Most of the time, a piece of legislation is made up of hundreds or more bills, some good, some bad however, Dr. Paul votes on the principle that if the piece of legislation is un-Constitutional then he is not voting for it even if it includes some good bills mixed in with the bad.

If you look at the bills that Dr. Paul has actually introduced, not only to help Vets, but the troops and police, then you may realize that he is a huge supporter of those three groups, but not at the price of selling out the principles that made this nation great to begin with. That's huge part of the problem in this country now, it has been compromised to the point that the law of the land has been effectively neutralized.

If you really want to find out what Dr. Paul stands for and what he has supported and said about various issues then I would strongly suggest you go to The Ron Paul Library. For issues on Vets go to:

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/search/search.php?q=Veterans

Posted by: Republicae | January 5, 2008 6:02 PM

We have over 700 military bases in over 130 countries. The pentagon uses more oil than 180 countries. We spend over $1 trillion per year abroad on our military. Is this what we want to be as a country...an empire?

Posted by: Rand Thinker | January 5, 2008 6:16 PM

Please PLEASE don't use "MSM" ANYMORE!!!!!
Journalists that work for huge conglomerations that are out only to direct public perception, crush dissent,a nd sell product, with NO regard for the American people, are NOT MAINSTREAM.
"COM" CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA
DOES NOT REPRESENT THE LITTLE GUY!!!
COM
COM
COM


NONE OF THESE NETWORKS ARE "MSM"!!!


BOYCOTT COM!!!!

Posted by: A Mom in America | January 5, 2008 6:20 PM

The only time our troops say they support the war is when big-shot politicians like John McCain show up for Photo-Op meals with all the Generals in tow. Of course they'll tell you they support the war IN THAT CONTEXT John! But I'll bet they call home aftrward, tell their families they were at some phony set-up with a stuffy politician, and wanted to say what they REALLY thought, but didn't feel like getting court-martialled that day!!!


xtrabiggg
+++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: xtrabiggg | January 5, 2008 6:39 PM

LARs....I read that strange website you posted and here are a few thoughts for you to consider about the 10 reasons given not to vote for Ron Paul:

"1. Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities."

Actually, Ron Paul believes that anytime we base our rights on anything other than being an American Citizen that the majority will always only allow a minority a portion of contingent freedom and delegated rights instead of a person's birthright as an individual. Ron Paul is a proponent of individual rights as opposed to a delineated classification based on a particular group, class, race, gender or anything else. Such classifications, groups, race, gender criteria will never provide for an equal application of the law, only when every single person demands of the government their rights based on the sole fact that they are a person then the government will continue to divide our society into various classifications because that way the majority can allow just enough rights to pacify those within those groups, classifications, races, genders, etc. The government loves such divisions, so does the majority because it allows "them" to retain power over minorities and until we all become unified as individuals then we will continue to be a divided and conquered people with an allowance of contingent freedom, but no real liberty.
To read more about the evils of Majoritarianism go to:

http://1776solution.blogspot.com/2007/07/state-desires-divisions.html

"2. Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights."

Indeed, Dr. Paul's view is that the federal government should not decide either way, whether for or against, but that the decision should be left up to the individuals within the several States to make that decision. However, he also takes a view that since the law recognizes that if a murder takes place involving a pregnant woman, the killer is charged with a double homicide, not just the death of the pregnant woman. He also states that as a physician, he can be sued if his actions lead to the death of the fetus. These are contradictions in the application of the law. Not only that, but the fetus itself is a DNA Specific Individual, it doesn't have the identical genes of the mother alone, or the father alone, but is an actual individual with a totally separate genetic makeup. Since DNA determines the identity of an individual that is totally separate from the mother. Dr. Paul believes that the fetus is an individual who, like its mother, deserves the same rights guaranteed by the Constitution for any individual. Now, the issue is, as we all know, very complicated and extremely emotional, however we must come to grips with some fundamental questions about what it means to be an individual in this country. Some say that life begins at birth and therefore abortion is solely a woman's choice however, if we honestly view all the issues then questions should arise.

"3. Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class."

In reality, Dr. Paul's policies would finally give the working class and the poor a level playing field instead of one that is currently biased toward the "haves" and the "connected". Do you know that thanks to the inflationary polices of the Federal Reserve that those working for minimum wages actually have the purchasing power of $0.87 per hour? If a hard workingman or woman making $10.00 per hour today it actually only has the purchasing power of $1.78 in 1970. What has happened to the power of the people's money? It has been stolen, siphoned away by the very ones who throw the people a bone by passing such laws as the minimum wage which does little to actually help people when inflation automatically eats the value away before the people get their little government provided raise.
Now, concerning OSHA, let me tell you first hand just how corrupt that agency is...OSHA would call ahead to the companies we worked in so the company could get everything in order before their inspections. OSHA is a joke, as are most of the other government agencies including the EPA, which are in the back pockets of huge corporations and usually only slap them with minor fines. If space permitted I would go into the rest of those pieces of legislation under this anti-Paul reasoning.

"4. Ron Paul's tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes."

Now, whoever wrote the anti-Paul piece definitely didn't read the bill that Dr. Paul sponsored, for it they had they would read this:
"Repeals the alternative minimum tax for individuals. Excludes from the gross income of individuals: (1) alimony and separate maintenance payments; (2) scholarships and fellowship grants; (3) supplemental security income provided under the Social Security Act; (4) disability payments; (5) railroad retirement benefits; (6) Federal civil service retirement benefits; (7) interest received on State and municipal bonds; and (8) employee fringe benefits."
Now, I am not sure who thinks that would be unfair to lower wage earners, but it appears that it would exclude several types of income from the current tax system, like disability payments, supplemental income under Social Security. That would benefit the some of the lowest sectors of our society. Now to understand this particular bill, Dr. Paul proposed it because his ultimate goal is to completely do away with the income tax and the IRS; his goal is not to tax anyone, but to reign in the monster of government spending abuses and the fiat monetary system that demands such taxation.

"5. Ron Paul's policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment."

Once again, someone either hasn't read or just doesn't understand what Dr. Paul is proposing. Go to:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/29/grist_qa/
You can get an idea about how Dr. Paul feels about the environment in this statement: Imagine that everyone living in one suburb, rather than using regular trash service, were taking their household trash to the next town over and simply tossing it in the yards of those living in the nearby town. Is there any question that legal mechanisms are in place to remedy this action? In principle, your concerns are no different, except that, for a good number of years, legislatures and courts have failed to enforce the property rights of those being dumped on with respect to certain forms of pollution. This form of government failure has persisted since the industrial revolution when, in the name of so-called progress, certain forms of pollution were legally tolerated or ignored to benefit some popular regional employer or politically popular entity.
When all forms of physical trespass, be that smoke, particulate matter, etc., are legally recognized for what they are -- a physical trespass upon the property and rights of another -- concerns about difficulty in suing the offending party will be largely diminished. When any such cases are known to be slam-dunk wins for the person whose property is being polluted, those doing the polluting will no longer persist in doing so. Against a backdrop of property rights actually enforced, contingency and class-action cases are additional legal mechanisms that resolve this concern."

"6. A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations."

Now that statement is one of the most ridiculous statements made. Already, Ron Paul meetup groups are spreading around the world; Ron Paul gets more favorable comments from foreign nations and individuals than any other candidate. Concerning the United Nations, well, it has done little to either ensure peace, keep the peace, or anything else.

"7. Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens."

Once again: WRONG! Dr. Paul states that the federal government has no business in this issue and in terms of bills that appear to the contrary, most of the time it involves federal funding outside of Constitutional mandate.

"8. Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns."

Actually, Ron Paul has a very healthy obsession with the Constitution. As far as guns go, he doesn't shoot, but he believes it is the right of every American to keep and bear arms.

"9. Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system."

Sad is right, and if you look back through the history of this country you will see a very definite time-line of the degradation of our educational system in this country. It began when the federal government "experts" took away local authority over the educational process, Dr. Paul wants to get the federal government out and restore local administration and authority.

"10. Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state."

To the contrary, Dr. Paul wants to put even more separation between the two by actually enforcing the Constitution. The First Amendment not only says that Congress shall not establish, but shall not restrict the free exercise thereof. Dr. Paul doesn't want any federal intrusion, infringement or establishment...just let people believe, express and practice their beliefs or their not

Posted by: Republicae | January 5, 2008 7:12 PM

We all need let our support of Ron Paul be known. The media wants him out but last I checked this was supposed to be an election by the people for the people.

Posted by: Gina | January 5, 2008 7:23 PM

It is obvious that Paul or Kucinich can't get the support and exposure they deserve. Strange as it may seem, I believe our best ticket for the USA is Paul for President and Kucinich for Veep. Is it too late to register and run as Independents? Let's take our constitution and our country back! Peace...

Posted by: Thunderbyrd | January 5, 2008 7:26 PM

I want to add one more comment.

I am excited to find a community of like-minded people...supporters of Dr. Paul. It is a pleasure to meet all of you, and to read your intelligent comments.

I am once again proud to be American.

If our fellow citizens are incapable of understanding the nature of this conflict, or reject the underlying principles of our movement, and Dr. Paul is not elected...Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: Rick Toone | January 5, 2008 7:38 PM

Ron Paul is the only *republican* candidate who has it right on the war issue. The democrats have Kucinich and Bill Richardson who both propose an immediate, complete withdraw from Iraq. Kucinich's plan also sets aside funds for reparations to Iraq.

Posted by: adam | January 5, 2008 7:40 PM

Hoo boy! The comments on this thread are only slightly less idiotic than the ad itself. Attention: Paul-bots. No one is buying. You're talking to yourselves. As always.

Ron Paul: wrong on just about everything.

Posted by: Laura J | January 5, 2008 7:56 PM

I'll vote for Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich, but i'll never vote for another Republocrat, which is what the "top tier" of both fake parties are.

Among people who get their news on the Web, not fed to them by the TV or one establishment newspaper, Kucinich and Paul are way ahead of the corporate-approved candidates

Posted by: Erik Larson | January 5, 2008 8:04 PM

The ad is great. I support Ron Paul.

Posted by: dfw | January 5, 2008 8:10 PM

The ad is great. I support Ron Paul.

Posted by: dfw | January 5, 2008 8:10 PM

Everyone seems to like Ron Paul for all the genuine reasons. Then WHY THE HELL DONT PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM !! Are we so dumb to let such a genuine, honest and intelligent person lose the election ?

Posted by: Ashley | January 5, 2008 8:12 PM

I'll vote for Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich, but i'll never vote for another Republocrat, which is what the "top tier" of both fake parties are.

Among people who get their news on the Web, not fed to them by the TV or one establishment newspaper, Kucinich and Paul are way ahead of the corporate-approved candidates

Posted by: Erik Larson | January 5, 2008 8:34 PM

I'm a Korean War ("Police Action") vet.. what a stupid and bloody war... run by the UN.. anyhow, our troops are still there! -- a half-century after it ended! Why still there? To protect Japan? Crazy. Ron Paul... please vote for him, he will really "support our troops" by bringing them home. Incidentally,we did not "win" the Korean war, nor did we "win" in Vietnam, nor will we "win" in Iraq... How about letting the tax and lobby-fed neocons fight in the next war they plan for the rest of us? Over the top with Bill Kristol, Norman Podhoretz and the rest of the AIPAC brigade!

Posted by: L.Step | January 5, 2008 8:59 PM

What makes people think that soldiers want to go to war, like maybe its enjoyable to kill people and dodge bullets, its like what we all live for.

Posted by: Roger Harkness | January 5, 2008 9:00 PM

Sorry, the US dollar is not falling. It is plummeting. And only Ron Paul is concerned about it. The only change that Obama is talking about is changing the way politics is played in Washington. Obama and the rest of the candidates can only talk big. Ron Paul has been studying the US financial system for decades. US needs real change - an overhaul of its financial system. Ron Paul himself has clarified he isn't advocating a return to the Gold standard. He only wants to put an end to the reckless printing of money and reckless fractional banking.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 5, 2008 9:09 PM

Ron Paul is 90% right about foreign policy, and wrong about almost everything else. He should not be president.

Posted by: me | January 5, 2008 9:40 PM

No offense to Obama but I wouldn't put him in charge of a convenient store. Just because someone talks good and looks good, does not mean they ARE good.

And for ME above you said: "Ron Paul is 90% right about foreign policy, and wrong about almost everything else. He should not be president"

And what is everything else?? All puff and no cigar for another idiot. Wake up man.

Posted by: Mark | January 5, 2008 10:35 PM

Absolutely, Fox should include Ron Paul in the debate. What the heck were they thinking? Give the viewers a chance to hear Crazy Ron hold forth. Without exception, every person I know who thought they supported RonPaul based on stuff they'd read or heard about him realized the first time they actually listened to him speak just how truly loony he is.

So ... PLEASE! FoxNews! Help expose him to daylight!

Posted by: Lynn | January 5, 2008 10:46 PM

Double speak appears in many guises, some subtle, some hidden and some clear. If our current foriegn policy is described as Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace then we need to change the Department of Defence name back to the original so it's real mission is clear, "Department of War". Let's not kid ourselves any longer, it's a war of words and most of them are lies.

This U.S. Army veteran will vote for Dr. Paul.

Posted by: William A. Wellman | January 5, 2008 11:21 PM

The Bush(Cheney)camp needs this year's war budget as well as the temporary security from our military in order to secure their new oil fields...after that the money from the oil fields will support the private army they have built up to the size of our military (on our tax money), so they won't need our guys anymore...and they can come home. If we could get Kucinich's House Resolution 799 (which replaced House Resolution 333 that sat without debate in committee for 6 months) at least brought up for debate by the Judiciary committee we might be able to save this year's toll in lives, taxes and maybe even Fox propaganda.

Posted by: GatorVol | January 5, 2008 11:33 PM

That's funny Lynn. I've had exactly the opposite experience. Most of the people I've encouraged to seek out Ron Paul interviews & writings come back to me and either are on board, or are saying "well, I agree with almost everything he says, but I don't think he can win." Same old, same old.

Sad how nearly everyone complains about the government, but when opportunities come along to shake up the system for the better, for most their years of "Rah Rah for my Party" programming still takes over. The American political mindset is in chains of "I can't vote my mind because I'm just a small vote, and if I don't follow the rest of the herd, the BAD guy will win!"

Small minds are the enemy of logic & reason.

Posted by: James Moore | January 5, 2008 11:36 PM

I am a U.S. Navy Veteran and served in the Iraqi Freedom Campaign and I will support Ron Paul. We went to defend rights and liberties that have turned into platitudes and when we attempt to invoke those rights promulgated under positive law, we find that they do not obtain. This country is under a Tyranny much broader than this administration and it needs to end now.

Posted by: Daniel Thomas | January 5, 2008 11:41 PM

I am a former US Army Officer. I served under clinton and was disgusted with him and his use of the military. I served under bush and after serving a year in Afghanistan resigned my commission as I felt our war in Iraq was unjustified.

I would serve gain under Ron Paul. I know that under his leadership my talents would be used to defend our freedoms and not for some personal vendettas, big business, or political chest thumping.

Dr. Paul is the choice of the free and the brave!

Posted by: Marr | January 6, 2008 12:08 AM

Duh, Washington Post, troops support Ron Paul. As for Veterans, my father, who is one, supports him. So there's one answer for you. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: Wendy | January 6, 2008 12:10 AM

Ron Paul speaks the truth and has principled integrity. I watched the debate tonight and he is a clear voice of reason. He understands foreign policy. He understands economic policy. He is consistent. I trust him. He makes sense. Let's get our country back. Let's bring the troops home. Let's have sound money. Dr. Paul has won my respect and my vote.

Posted by: Elizabeth in Mountain View | January 6, 2008 12:14 AM

Jesse Benton, I was impressed by candidate Ron Paul tonight and I desperately want to get the other side of the half-truth, or, the half-lie, about saving land for Veterans, Senator Feinstein/Congressman Waxman's pork legislation, exposed before the elections. I hope that you can help us. Please do not believe that all is well for American Military Veteran patients throught the VA, especially at Vision 22 in West Los Angeles, California. I may well be the 2nd most hated man by the wealthy Brentwood activists who want to take over much of the VA, WLA, CA, facilities. Per their website, first, for a 16 acre public access park and, second, for what former Mayor Riordan refers to as the "North Campus" where they plan to put "Central Park West". We have openly challenged this "Land Grab" by this well-connected group because that property was specifically donated as a rehabilitation community for American Military Veteran patients. We saw the "smoke & mirrors" ushered by the "blue" team that told people that they were saving the land from commercialization but facilitated an unknown, no bid, rent free give away of 16 acres for a public access park onto land that is desperately needed for a comprehensive Veteran Service Plan. Please contact us for more information, this is bigger than it seems, how we treat our American Military Veterans, the most diverse minority group in the U.S., speaks volumes for how we treat ourselves as a nation.

Posted by: Francisco Juarez | January 6, 2008 12:18 AM

Excellent article. I'm a left-leaning Hispanic civil libertarian who disagrees partially with Ron Paul on immigration. However, I wholeheartedly support him as the only candidate in either major party who will bring an end to U.S. imperialism right away. Obama-speak won't do it. Hillary will continue playing Napoleon. The only change Obama is interested in is taking more change out of our pockets for big business that is controlling the Democratic Party. Look at how much Microsoft supports both parties. Ron Paul has always OPPOSED domestic spying, the Patriot Act, the Iraq conquest, the 100 U.S. foreign military bases, the racist War on Drugs, the heartless ban on medical marijuana and the big bankers' hidden tax on low and middle class Americans through inflation and the devaluation of the American dollar. The Ron Paul Revolution is the real deal. Liberals and conservatives continue to unite behind Ron Paul.

Posted by: Abe | January 6, 2008 12:38 AM

I would like to see my brother come home from Iraq. He'll soon be on his 4th deployment. I believe in what Doctor Paul is saying.

Posted by: Charles | January 6, 2008 12:54 AM

As a former service man, son of a man who won two Bronze Stars and three Purple Hearts in WWII, and a relative of George S. Patton, Francis Marion and 13 members of the Revolutionary Army, I am proud that my family has served in every war that this country has fought. I am ashamed to have been duped into serving during Viet Nam where 58,000 of my fellow soldiers were killed for profit while our own bankers financed Russia's efforts to supply 80% of North Viet Nam's weapons.

Wiser now, and no longer allowing this country's war profiteers to take advantage of my patriotism, I am the first member of my family since before the Revolution to tell his son not to go to war so, you won't see him in Iraq. He is big, strong, fearless, and would make a good soldier. You're going to have to deserve him to get him.

Posted by: Web Smith | January 6, 2008 12:54 AM

Plus if Paul is elected we can smoke all the pot we want.

Posted by: **** **** | January 6, 2008 1:43 AM

Yeah, the Consitution isn't right for everyone. If you don't like it, work to change it or leave the Republic.

Without the rule of law, of which the Constitution is the foundation, we have either anarchy or tyranny.

Hey all you commies and fascist, which would you like?

Posted by: Ross | January 6, 2008 1:50 AM

Sarah, thanks for reporting on Ron Paul's new ad stressing his support from members of the U.S. military. You wondered "whether his anti-war message will appeal to New Hampshire veterans." Right there is a great follow-up assignment for yourself: do NH veterans support or oppose the current Iraq war?

Posted by: Jacquie | January 6, 2008 1:54 AM

Thank you Washington Post for this article on non- interventionist Ron Paul and his overwhelming active and retired military support. The following I submitted to the Union Leader in NH a couple of weeks ago and I would like to share it with you as well:

"Sen. McCain's personal courage during military service can not be questioned, but his opinions regarding the Iraq war and the common American ground troops should be! I would ask McCain to re-read E. Remarque's classic 1924 work "All Quiet on the Western Front" and focus on the character of the bellicose schoolmaster "Kantorek" who shames young men to throw themselves into the bottomless meat grinder of trench warfare in WWI. Paul (the protagonist) - with resentment stresses "There were thousands of Kantoreks, all of whom were convinced that they were acting for the best-in a way that cost them nothing".

Ron Paul is correct in his assessment of American foreign policy and the Iraq debacle and Sen. McCain should have listened to him years ago and helped to avoid this mess that has destroyed so many and currently dominates us all".

Posted by: Thomas A. O'Brien | January 6, 2008 2:35 AM

As a former Army -82nd Airborne Paratrooper - vet, 1961-1964 I took an oath to live and die for the Constitution of the United States. I have never recinded that oath! Dr. Paul has taken that same oath and still lives by it, as have millions of other vets and currently serving military persons. McCain, Hunter, and other neo-cons took that same oath, but they deride Dr. Paul when he says we should be bound by that oath and that Constitution. May they all burn in hell for breaking their oath, and may Dr. Paul win the 2008 Presidential election.

Posted by: japattison | January 6, 2008 2:39 AM

its heartening to hear from the veterans.
they should be heard first.
many can no longer be heard having given "the last full measure of devotion".
next time you are talking with folks about the USA ask if any present are veterans and suggest to others that they be heard first.

Posted by: maggot | January 6, 2008 3:06 AM

the question posed by the reporter re: do soldiers support ron paul" will not be answered by asking nor by this forum.
it is interesting that no major news corp to my knowledge has attempted an ubaised confidential poll of soldiers in iraq.
anyone aware of any? where can such info be found? why hasn't the washington post done this?

Posted by: maggot | January 6, 2008 3:17 AM

Blessed are the troops, past, present, and future, for upholding their sacred oath to defending the Constitution of the United States of America!

Our national "defense" has turned into our national "offense". Our brave troops are obligated to fight foreign battles that were authorized not by the People throught their representatives in Congress, but by the United Nations. Meanwhile we have troops overseas defending Germany, Korea, Afghanistan, and Iraq (to name a few), and our own borders are left completely wide open!

Our Founding Fathers would be ashamed with what our country has become. Check out Ron Paul on Google and YouTube and decide for yourself. Please consider the ideas that he expresses and has expressed for 30 years. The future of American depends on it.

Posted by: Dr. Kibble | January 6, 2008 3:23 AM

http://www.issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm
If you want to really see what Paul stands for, check out this link. He is anti environment (actually, he is for the right to be free from federal regulation preventing pollution). He is anti abortion, but claims he wouldn't work to prohibit it. That's a dodge. He would put it to the states, most of which would outlaw it. He is against embryonic stem cell research, despite the promise it holds.

He is for the disastrous "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which has caused us to lose more military translators than any other policy (gays face execution in many middle east nations, come to the US for the freedom to live, join the military to protect their freedom of their adopted nation, then are kicked out for who they love).

He would dismantle the Dept of Education, leaving the states to fund them. He wants creationism lite, "Intelligent Design" to be taught in school. Pushes failed abstinence education programs. For school vouchers, a giveaway to private schools. I would not be at all surprised if he would eliminate government funding for scientific research of all kinds.

He is opposed to alternative energy processes, and his voting record is solidly against energy independence.

He is against the conspiracy theory driven concept of a Mexico to Canada superhighway, as though trucks, trains and cargo ships are currently unable to move goods between the two nations now.

He has consistently been for reduced ethics in campaigns, including unrestrained spending, soft money use, independent PACs, etc.

I could go on and on. I agree with Paul on ending the Iraq war, but that's about the limit of it. The vast majority of his positions are the same as the furthest right wing of the republican party. Greed is good, everything is for sale, get yours and screw the little guy.

The pro constitution stance is a smokescreen, too. He only supports the parts of the constitution that he likes. Not the 14th or 16th amendment, a fair portion of the 1st article, and birthright citizenship.

Oh, and does the RP library have his racist and pro militia movement newsletters? Somehow I bet they are conveniently absent. And the part about a ghostwriter is jsut a cop out. If you don't make sure the ghost writer is saying exactly what you would say, you are too stupid to let out of the house, let alone be president.

Posted by: Robster | January 6, 2008 3:55 AM

Why is the FOX afraid of Ron Paul?

The SLY FOX is hiding from Ron Paul.

Thankfully, the GOP has withdrawn sponsorship from the sly FOX debate, stating that "The Fox debate is excluding Texas Congressman Ron Paul even though he polls higher in New Hampshire and has raised significantly more money, and is campaigning more in New Hampshire than Fred Thompson who is invited."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/politics/primarysource/2008/01/nh_gop_drops_sp.html

Posted by: Nevsky | January 6, 2008 6:44 AM

My husband and I will vote for Dr.Paul on principle. It's high time an integritous man ran for our highest office. Even if he does not win the White House it's time to collectively stand up and tell the powers that be that the American people have had enough. We have awoken from our post 9/11 slumber and disapprove of what's transpired while we were sleeping off our National Nightmare. I sincerely hope the good doctor wins but, in lieu of that, our votes will no doubt encourage candidates of conviction in the future. Support Our Troops....Vote Ron Paul 08

Posted by: Susan | January 6, 2008 8:27 AM

To: Robster | January 6, 2008 03:55 AM

I hate to break it to you Robster but the Constitution is not a smoke screen and Ron Paul has true principles, unlike the other candidates that will tell you what you may want to hear just to get your vote. Ron Paul would like to have a much smaller Federal government for sure, and allow the states to actually govern again without the Federal government having to hold their hands. The items you stated in your post are not true, Robster you have been brainwashed like most of America by the media and our very own government. Go back and do some real research on Ron Paul's voting record in Congress, his outstanding medical practice, and his military service before you spout half truths and lies. Ron Paul has integrity and the other Republicans are afraid of him, because he does not sugar coat things, and he is one of the few that still believes in Liberty and Freedom. One thing I like best about Ron Paul is that he does not sound or look like a slick used car salesman or actor unlike Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Mr.911, and Thompson do. When it comes to the economy he is the only one running that truly understands what it is going to take for our country to recover and has real solutions.

Ron Paul will keep his promises when he becomes President, no doubt about that, he is very consistent. A summation of all the candidates at the New Hampshire debate last night was made by the commentator (Gibson) and when he got to Ron Paul, his response was that Ron Paul has always been consistent, in other words he uses the Constitution when making any Congressional decisions or law, now that is fact. Washington has not changed Ron Paul, he is trying to change Washington, and by using our very own Constitution to do it. Most Americans do want that, business as usual in Washington is something we cannot afford any longer.

I am a veteran of the United States Air Force and Ron Paul has my vote & support. Oh, and Robster this article is about the support for Ron Paul from the military and his Ad, why don't you comment on that?
http://ronpaul2008.com

Posted by: Tess | January 6, 2008 8:40 AM

Ron Paul has it right. Use our military for defense of our country. Only go to war with the approval of Congress.

Let's get our country back to the Constitution. We don't need a Welfare State.

As a former USAF Officer, I am supporting Ron Paul. He is the only candidate who is willing to speak to the REAL issues this country is facing. Bringing the troops home is a great start. And, not just from Iraq. Bring 'em home from all over the world.

I couldn't agree with a previous comment more:

It is time for the US to reinstate the Department of "Defense"

Posted by: Steve in Georgetown, TX | January 6, 2008 9:03 AM

I think Ron Paul wiped the floor with the other candidates in the debate last night. He is the first candidate I have been excited about and donated to in my 15 yrs of voting. The bias against him in the media is so glaringingly obvious it's sickening. All candidates should be given equal time and then let the voters decide. Go Ron Paul!!

Posted by: Kristy | January 6, 2008 10:00 AM

Great article. The feedback is so encouraging. Please continue to keep us informed!

Posted by: Janet Holmes | January 6, 2008 10:13 AM

*Hispanics for RON PAUL*
Ron Paul understands that you need to
legitimize Immigration to make
hispanic immigrants legitimate.

Without this next step, we will always
be singled out as illegal.

Posted by: Hispanic | January 6, 2008 11:05 AM

Dr. Ron Paul represents a true threat to the people and corporations that own the main stream media. He represents the common man. This fact is obvious if you look at how his funds are raised. He hasn't filled his coffers with money from special interest groups and large corporations, but rather by over a hundred thousand individuals with an average donation of about 90 bucks. He has been unfairly represented by most of the media.

Posted by: Tom | January 6, 2008 11:51 AM

Only one candidate recognizes that this Country cannot sustain the largest debt in history and continue to maintain a network of bases and allies across the world and that candidate is Ron Psul Think of future generations and support him, he has the courage and wisdom to change our foreign policy. We are not immune from the economic forces that brought down all previous world powers.

Posted by: Doug Ward | January 6, 2008 12:00 PM

I support Ron Paul because I believe he has the right message on the war in Iraq and I believe he has the right economic message. I have been less a proponent of his personal freedom message because in this country I have always considered us free however he makes very compelling arqument that we are loosing our personal freedom. I will think more on that subject. It could be my third reason for Ron Paul to be elected President of the United States

Posted by: Bob Madden | January 6, 2008 12:10 PM

Ron Paul did great in the ABC/Facebook debate. In our chatroom we get a lot of vets who got tired of policing the world. I am sure many folks share their views on:

  • monetary policy

  • bringing the troops home

  • health care

  • individual freedoms
  • http:RonPaulChat.50webs.com

    Posted by: Marcy | January 6, 2008 12:19 PM

    Imagine how much larger of a military we would have if people knew they would be joining to fight only for the defense of their country not to police the world and not wars based on mercantilism.

    Posted by: MIke | January 6, 2008 2:00 PM

    Tess, you are entitled to your opinions, but not your facts. http://www.issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm sets forth his history in no uncertain terms. But please, feel free to donate to the Ron Paul retirement fund. He'll be enjoying every 90 dollar average donation to it.

    Posted by: Robster | January 6, 2008 2:23 PM

    I'm a retired Army/Nat'l Guard vet, son, brother nephew and father to veterans, and I support Ron Paul. He is correct in asserting that the Iraq war is neither just nor prudent. Bin Laden, our enemy, is in Afghanistan or Pakistan, and the 9/11 bombers came mostly from Saudi Arabia and were here as illegal aliens, most of them with drivers licenses and registered to vote. Greenspan was correct - this war is about oil.
    And while it shouldn't have to be an issue, only Ron Paul and Sen. McCain are against torture. It's pathetic that we should even have to debate whether water torture is torture, but that's more the reason for electing Ron Paul.

    Posted by: Lloyd A. Conway | January 6, 2008 2:34 PM

    There are only THREE presidential candidates from either party who served in the military. THREE!

    Duncan Hunter - zero chance, zero support

    John McCain - It's "okay with him" if we stay in Iraq for ***100 YEARS***

    Ron Paul - #1 in donations from the military.

    When it comes to national DEFENSE, not global empire building, the choice is clear. Ron Paul.

    Posted by: Ian | January 6, 2008 2:39 PM

    First I'd like to give you guys at the Post.com pseudo-props. You give Ron Paul a lot of exposure, however most times it's never visible from the front page so you'd have to actually search for him, which most wouldn't do....anyways.

    As active duty military I see waste/fraud/abuse every day and think a DRASTICALLY smaller government is exactly what we need. Also, my Marine friends tell me Iraq is a lost cause and we should just come home.

    Finally as a USNA grad, I'm still not voting for McCain. I applaud his valor in Vietnam. But I also realize that coming from the elite McCain family, he was handed everything he got in life, both before and after Vietnam. And he's just as crooked as any other Senator in DC.

    Posted by: LT Mike | January 6, 2008 2:48 PM

    The media in every country is dominated by vested interests that have an influence on political process. This is fact in every country. Therefore citizens should always be aware and critical of any bias found in the media. Ron Paul probably will simplify American policy. It might make American progress more successful, and make American regeneration possible, before it is too late, and things get to the stage that existed in the Soviet Union in the collapse. Something needs to be done urgently. Does any candidate have suggestions on how to make the economy work again ?

    Posted by: Deco | January 6, 2008 3:14 PM

    My son is in the Army. I do not want the US government sending my son out UNLESS it's to actually defend the US.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate saying that he will ONLY send out troops for the DEFENSE of US.

    I hadn't realized until the debates last night that the US was on the offensive. Good God - where is my America?

    Posted by: Donna Matrix | January 6, 2008 4:19 PM

    I am in the US Coast Guard and I believe Ron Paul is the best candidate for the job. The other candidates are phonies and bullies. If you support our troops, then support Ron Paul.

    Posted by: joseph | January 6, 2008 4:46 PM

    As a long time lefty, (reading Chomsky, having social work as a career) and planted in the Bay Area for the last ten years, I am here to tell ya that I will be voting Republican for Ron Paul this election.

    Posted by: Brian | January 6, 2008 6:01 PM

    Air Force veteran here. This message to the "family value" voters across the country: a vote for a humble foreign policy, as Bush ran in 2000 and Paul is running on now, is a vote FOR the family. The ops tempo strain on military personnel and their families is very real and very destructive towards families.

    Posted by: Clete Seyle | January 6, 2008 6:22 PM

    I watched the 2008 presidential debates on ABC Jan. 5. Ron Paul peaked my interest. He is in complete alignment with my thinking. We need a man in the White House with his views.

    Posted by: Alex Komjati | January 6, 2008 6:42 PM

    I love Ron Paul because he is right and honest at all times!

    Posted by: Tomas Estrada-Palma | January 6, 2008 7:41 PM

    I am Independent...But after the ABC Debate...I will VOTE RON PAUL!
    This guy has it right!

    Posted by: Robert Godlove | January 6, 2008 8:20 PM

    Posted by: Robert Godlove | January 6, 2008 8:21 PM

    I will support Ron Paul. None of the marxist democrat lie/hate mongers have a clue (and it's doubtful that they ever will) and the remainder of the republicans are just more of the same neo-con architects of disaster who have labored so long and hard to bring us to the brink of collapse.

    Posted by: Don | January 6, 2008 8:37 PM

    I AM TIRED OF FOX NOT ONLY TWISTING NEWS IN PROPAGANDA, BUT NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO LIMIT ACCESS TO THE BASIC INFORMATION OF ALL OF OUR CANDIDATES.

    THEY DO THIS FOR THEIR OWN CONCERNS, NOT THAT OF THE VIEWERS.

    BOYCOTT AND DESTROY FOX NEWS... THE ANTI- AMERICAN NEWS CHANNEL!

    AND GO RON PAUL!

    Posted by: NM | January 6, 2008 9:13 PM

    I am a hispanic woman I am voting for Ron Paul!

    Posted by: Maria | January 6, 2008 9:46 PM

    Thanks to all the currently serving members of our armed forces and veterans who took the time to post their views publicly for those of us who are distinctly civilian to read. It's a perspective I can't see from my comfortable chair in a research department. You inspired me to make my first political donation ever. Go Dr. Paul.

    Posted by: ndk | January 6, 2008 10:06 PM

    As of yesterday FOX will NEVER be watched in my house ever again. I hope the rest of America follows suit, I would like to see FOX go broke just like the little people in the world. That would make the loudest statement ever made in America, it would also show that the people still run the government not the government running the people!!! America needs to wake up and help put an end to this ever hungry government we have. Kick these greedy worthless lifelong Senators and Congressmen out of office so they will have to work like the rest of us. Then maybe just maybe they will see lies that are trying to sell us. We need to take care of America and ONLY America until we get her to the Democracy she once was, and get our rights back. Like Thomas Jefferson said;
    When the people fear the government, there is TYRANNY,
    When the government fear the people, there is FREEDOM!!!!!!!!
    We need our freedom back and get back free eneterprise, and sink this socialism and send their government back where it came from, Big Bankers.

    Posted by: Vic Bailey, Auburn Ga. | January 6, 2008 10:11 PM

    I have been following up on Ron Paul . Doing all kind of searches.

    Just want to say to everyone out there..
    No matter if you are Democrat or Republician or Independent.

    Think a lot of times before you decide who to vote. Things have changed a lot in the last 5 years.

    Just remember you dont have to vote for a Democrat just because you have been doing so over the years.

    God Bless Ron Paul.

    Posted by: SK | January 6, 2008 10:54 PM

    Air Force vet here. Dr. Paul has my support, and my donation. I am also looking to volunteer in his campaign locally. The need is critical. The time is now! Come to the defense of our country! Rally 'round the Texan! Join the Ron Paul Revolution. Live free or die!

    Posted by: Gene in Jersey | January 7, 2008 1:48 AM

    Please, boycott FOX and their advertisers. No self-respecting voter should allow this kind of media manipulation. I dont care if Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter were arguing for communism! Let the voter decide, not the media. I'm upset that ABC decided to not let Kucinich and Hunter participate. They have a right to express their views. The media these days can not be trusted for accuracy and fairness.

    Posted by: Cameron | January 7, 2008 2:44 AM

    John Stossel of ABC News interviewed Dr. Paul in a series of excellent segments about the major issues. The clips have not been aired on television...but are available on the web: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3970423&page=1

    Best information I've seen yet.

    Posted by: Rick Toone | January 7, 2008 2:52 AM

    As a former submariner, I offer another veteran voice for Dr. Paul. He has the personal character, courage and intelligence we need in a Commander in Chief.
    -Joe Allen formerly MM3(nuclear) U.S.S.Ohio

    Posted by: Joe Allen | January 7, 2008 3:38 AM

    This man is a genius. He could certainly prevent World War 3 if elected.

    Posted by: Young Soldier | January 7, 2008 4:55 AM

    I'm active duty and I support Ron Paul for president. We veterans and active duty people are working for the Department of DEFENSE, not the Department of OFFENSE. American Imperialism, as it has grown over the last seven years is alarming. Not only have we been spead thin militarily, but we've begun to lose out civil liberties here at home - all whole suposedly spreading freedom to Iraq and Afganistan. It just makes me sick. I support Ron Paul because he'd reverse this dangerous course the current administration has taken us on...

    Posted by: Paul G. | January 7, 2008 7:53 AM

    Fun4fly: Hey, we are standing up for our rights, our country and our constitution. I don't call that spamming. I call that being patriotic.
    What are you doing? Why don't you try to stand up for America too.
    You have no respect. I'll spell it r-e-s-p-e-c-t.

    Posted by: RoinCT | January 7, 2008 9:23 AM

    Boycott Fox News and its advertisers. Don't buy any products aired on Fox News. Put them out of business.! The people have the power! Fox has interferred with our election process and Murdock should be arrested. We've been cheated-again! Enough is enough.

    Posted by: RoinCT | January 7, 2008 11:10 AM

    If I were too vote for any Republican it would be Ron Paul, he is the only one who has any commonsence and isn't swayed by big oil and greedy military equipment manufacturers wanting war to sell their wares.If we vote any other Republican in office , it will be four more years of the same old same old...

    Posted by: Independent voter | January 7, 2008 1:43 PM

    I am from Pakistan and I am surprized that US is same as Paksitan. 'They' filter the leaders with the help of media (Fox), just like what happened in Pakistan. Bhutto was US backed and Musharaf is US backed so if something goes wrong who 'll be blamed for? US obviously.
    I love Ron Paul for being blunt and being respectful and honest to the whole world and telling the trust and not just going with the flow.
    I was listenting to the last presidential debates on abc news and EVERONE, all the suckers supported Bush and his strategies and invading other countries based on false intellegence.
    I think if we want the peace in the world and want to be powerful as well, we need to stick to our constitution and Ron Paul is the defender/master of constitution.
    Please come out and join Ron Paul revolution or you will have a situation like Pakistan. ( It started to happen already by the way; Fox 'blocking' Ron Paul, can't believe that. )
    Peace out, VOTE Dr. Ron Paul.

    Posted by: awarraic | January 7, 2008 2:56 PM

    Another vet here in favor of Dr. Ron Paul. He is the best candidate for a strong national defense.

    Posted by: Don | January 7, 2008 4:24 PM

    Here's more support from a veteran.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyXO41MhMc
    Ron Paul 2008 or Nothing!

    Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | January 8, 2008 10:11 AM

    Is Iraq a lost cause or was there ever a cause? Nope.

    Your rights are beeing taken away to defend your rights... hmm.

    I do love what America is suppose to stand for.. but honestly, your government is really starting to freak me out. You are travelling down a road that was once travelled before... overseas... by a dude named Hitler. Come on! The people allowed it to happen there, don't let it happen to you.

    Please listen to your war vets and vote for Ron Paul.

    Posted by: A Canadian | January 8, 2008 10:37 AM

    GATA says that the Fed (and perhaps other central banks) have been leasing gold at say 1% to a bullion trading firm like say a Goldman Sachs, who then sells the gold for dollars. The dollar proceeds are then reinvested in say U.S. Treasuries at 4% or 5%, thus earning a 3% or 4% spread. To ensure these favored companies reap a windfall profits from this activity, GATA believes central banks are doing all they can to push the market price of gold down. In that way, when it is time for Goldman Sachs to repay gold to the central bank, it will earn a still larger profit because now it can purchase the gold at a prce that is lower than what it received when it sold it for dollars. Of course, this activity, if is taking place, hurts some of the poorest countries around the world, such as those that depend greatly on income derived from gold mining. If the Fed were involved in this activity, would it surprise you? Isn't this Crony Capitalism?

    There have been some indication that the British decision to sell 1/2 of their gold was timed to ensure that the gold price would keep falling so that Goldman could continue to buy gold at lower and lower prices. There are rumors of an enormous gold short position in the markets amounting to three or four year's worth of production. If firms like Goldman were forced to cover their positions at higher prices, they could lose enormous amounts of money. But this is getting off the topic a bit.

    Posted by: GATA/Ron PAul | January 8, 2008 11:51 AM

    Dear Sir:

    It is beyond me why the GOP Moguls do not whole heartily support Ron Paul. He epitomizes Republicanism more than any person since Ronald Reagan and I think he his more Reaganesque than Reaga

    Posted by: Dell Richards | January 8, 2008 2:17 PM

    I wish to add that I too am a Vet and I too remember "protect the Constitution from enemies both foriegn and domestic". I will vote non independant and go Republican for the first time since the first Reagan election for pres.

    Dr. Paul is the only one for me too or I vote indy for the rest of time. We have to unite and stand up for our Constition that both parties are destroying or we want be able to use it to end the big lie that has so many confused. The big lie that they know what is best for the rest of the planet even over the scientist.

    Dr. Paul has the record and the backing of every free man who has considered the reality of how "big brother" is using the media to brainwash/flush the truth right out of our minds. The dumbing down of America has been going on steadily and successfully. The Dept of Education is diverting funds to the executives of that Dept and away from the classroom by their very existance.

    The logic is so obvious Nimoy should do Mr. Spock for us in an ad for Dr. Paul:

    "It's just logical Ron, look to the money trail and follow wherever the facts lead. The facts we can all see for ourselves like wasted lives in Iraq and Halliburton getting rich while Ben Laden is still roaming free somewhere else".

    We are being fleeced like a golden ram by Cheney's and Bush's family and friends alike. Dr. Ron Paul is our ONLY CHANCE today to end the reign of terror the New World Order elites wish to continue. (Google: 'the Georgia Guidestones')We cannot fail to make the change before they invite or cause to happen a Chinese/Russian assualt on our land as they will not give up power willingly. They would rather we perish before that happens.

    VOTE RON PAUL!

    Posted by: justoneguy | January 8, 2008 2:48 PM

    GO DR. PAUL! GO DR. PAUL!
    If you don't get elected
    America is DOOMED!
    GO DR. PAUL! GO DR. PAUL!

    Posted by: WISH WE WERE FREE AGAIN | January 9, 2008 12:36 AM

    I really love how people comment on how our soliders feel when most have not served.

    I am in the military and no matter if I agree or don't agree with the war we need an organized movement of our troops out of Iraq. We made a promise to the people there and took this movement on and we need to make good on our promise or all our soliders worked and died for will be in vain.

    Posted by: Allyson | January 10, 2008 1:34 PM

    I really do support Dr. Paul's idea of the freedom to carry a handgun. Think about what happened at Virginia Tech! I 20 college students all had guns pointed at the loony,he would have a slim chance of killing anyone. It's an American's authority to carry a gun anywhere,even too a college where it's not allowed. It's not like you're going to point a gun at the professor! GO RON PAUL!!! End the war! Give American's their gun and money back!

    Posted by: Sierra | January 10, 2008 4:05 PM

    I really do support Dr. Paul's idea of the freedom to carry a handgun. Think about what happened at Virginia Tech! If 20 college students all had guns pointed at the loony,he would have a slim chance of killing anyone. It's an American's authority to carry a gun anywhere,even too a college where it's not allowed. It's not like you're going to point a gun at the professor! GO RON PAUL!!! End the war! Give American's their gun and money back!

    Posted by: Sierra | January 10, 2008 4:07 PM

    Ron Paul is the ONLY politician that actually addresses the REAL issues.

    He is not a fake or a liar or pretending to be something he isn't.

    He doesn't "float balloons" to see how people feel about an issue before he supports it.

    He doesn't say one thing in front of one group of people and something else in front of another.

    How much sense does it make to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars to blow up a country and then spend hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild it while our own country is falling apart?

    How much sense does it take to give the Fed (A privately held institution) the right to print OUR money and then LEND it to us????

    Google an "inflation Calculator and see how much the American dollar is REALLY worth.

    The Income tax IS unconstitutional and Ron
    Paul wants to do away with it. All we do with that is pay the interest on the Federal Debt anyway... No Fed, no debt..

    He is the ONLY politician I have ever believed, and thats a real shame because the politicians are supposed to be working for US the American people NOT big business. If we don't do something soon we will lose our country.

    We used to be respected, but now if the people aren't hating us because we are "terrorizing" their country. (look up terrorism in the dictionary) They are laughing at us because, Choose your choice....

    1. Our President
    2. Our Vice President
    3. Our Economy
    4. The way we are running our country like
    Romans did (We all know what happened to
    them)
    5. The way we help China with our free
    trade policy while we go down the tubes.
    6. Our soon to be, "National ID Card.
    7. The way the President and his pals walk
    all over the Constitution like it's a
    piece of trash.

    I love my country, it's the government
    that scares me.

    Posted by: Bob Shaw | January 11, 2008 11:43 PM

    It is time to take our country back. F the bankers and stand up a support the constitution. Once America is gone, it will be the end of the free world. The others candidate support globalism and tyranny.

    WE THE PEOPLE, F THE BANKER, take that too the bank.

    Posted by: Bank | January 14, 2008 5:01 AM

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    Posted by: AJ | January 15, 2008 1:35 AM

    The difference between Ron Paul and Kennedy is that we now understand that the rOTHSCHILD, rOCKEFFELAS ARE THE ONES running the show, the rabbit is out of the hat. Ban the Fed, and the industrial war machine, lets procecute every Rothschild and Rockefella for crimes aainst humanity! Lets WE THE PEOPLE!

    Posted by: WE | January 19, 2008 2:54 PM

    I am not an American I am not very smart I know nothing about politics but what this man says makes sense to me the US can do the best in the world by leading by example we are now in the 21st century lets just all work together stop all theses stupid wars.If the battle the just then people will come to you

    Posted by: John Dickerson | February 2, 2008 8:50 PM

    Troops vote Ron Paul!

    Slogan ideas for rally anyone:

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