I like the idea of Adam & Peter going off to save the world.
I can not STAND the Elle character. (I think it's because I don't like the actress)
Question: Why was the bad guy in LA unable to punch D.L. (his hand went right through him) but D.L.'s body was killed by a bullet?

Because DL has to know what's coming. It seems (well, seemed) to be an on-command, voluntary power rather than an instinctive one. i.e. He took the bullet for Nikki/Jessica but stuck his hand into Linderman's head to do him in.

Oh, yeah, this was definitely the best show of the season! Very satisfying to finally have some answers and makes me look forward to the next episode. I get Adam now and am excited to see how his character develops, unlike Maya and her bro who I wish would just go away now (and take Molly and Elle with you, please!).

The show seems back on track now. I hope they can keep the momentum going 'cause the shrinking fan base isn't going to stick around much longer if there continues to be lame subplots derailing the action.

Keep hope alive!

Presumably, Peter and Claire also are immortal, since they have the same regenerative power as Adam.

But do you really think Adam wants to "save the world?" Even though John Maynard dismisses the 16th-century Japan story line, I (a) enjoyed it, and (b) think it's setting up Adam as a true nemesis (as opposed to Sylar who is simply a sociopath with powers). I'll bet that Adam has been carrying his grudge against Hiro for centuries, waiting for the chance to get his revenge - and Peter, who knows nothing of Adam's past, is being used yet again.

My thoughts exactly about Adam! A much stronger concept for a "bad guy" than Sylar's typical sociopathic serial killer that could've come from any police procedural show. And I agree that he's simply using Peter and setting up a much bigger game against Hiro and the others. He's the mastermind behind everything that's going to occur this season, including the killing of the older Heroes. I don't buy that he's been incommunicato for 30 years with no outside influence. Caged maybe, but not without his influences on outside actions. Remember, Linderman was one of his disciples, so there must be others. A touch of Lord Voldemort anyone? And yes, can we just kill off the Whiney Twins? Jesus, the relationship between these two is creepier than Angelina Jolie and her brother-kissing episodes! At least we didn't have to see another episode of My Two Stupid Dads last night. I'm seriously thinking of dropping this show due to it's dragging plotlines and consistently stupid and naive characters. These people are heroes? Wouldn't trust them to save my cat from a tree! At least Micah grasps the sense of wonder and exploration that this show seriously needs to drag it up from the mope-fest it's become.

I'm not sure what to believe about Adam. Bob said that Adam could control the weather, you know. And if Adam's the one killing off the older Heroes, then how did he get to Mama Petrelli?

Incidentally, I read an interview with Tim Kring that was done right at the beginning of the writers' strike where he admitted that the writing staff really did get way off track and that they've heard the complaints. He's got goals of trimming some of the storylines and making the show more taut (presumably when the strike ends, although if there isn't writing being done now, I'd be surprised).

Yeah, but if you give up on this show, what the hello are you going to watch, "Two and a Half Men?" Bleech. And because of the writer's strike, the Dec. 3 show was written to also fill in as the season finale, so the show may be going away for quite awhile soon anyway.

j, thanks for the clarification re: dl.

also, i agree with the possibility that adam is using peter to get to hiro, and maybe even all the heroes. at this point, though, i just like those two characters. do you think they have the same powers but maybe adam (despite saving nathan) is willing to go to the dark side (saving nathan gets him peter), whereas peter is more trusting and naive?

"And if Adam's the one killing off the older Heroes, then how did he get to Mama Petrelli?"

It was probably Maury Parkman who got to Mama Petrelli. I'm not sure what to make of Adam if he's really been locked up for 30 years by the dark side of the Company. I'm not sure what to make of the Haitian either - just when you think he's a robot, he goes and does something of his own accord.

Ali Larter is nice to look at, but Nikki/Jessica/Gina isn't adding much this season. DL's death was really a roundabout story line to revisit Nikki's insecurity with her powers.

I watch this show because my husband got hooked last season and now we watch it together. However, every time Kristen Bell comes on screen, I want to retch. Could she be any more annoying?!

Also, Sylar is annoying too. Maya should just cry a lot already so he dies in that damn Nissan Rogue they keep promoting all show long.

"... that damn Nissan Rogue they keep promoting all show long."

Don't buy the Rogue. It's easily stolen and driven by psychopaths and manslaughterists (manslaughterers?). Instead, get the Versa. Time-traveling swordsmen drive this one.

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