Rev. Jeremiah Wright Mostly Quiet at Panel, Talks to The Post

Marcia Davis

The chapel of the Howard University School of Divinity was filled with religious leaders from across the country today as they discussed the implications of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's controversial comments in the context of the black church experience. Though Wright spoke for more than hour at the National Press Club yesterday, he remained quiet and in the pews today.


The Rev. Jeremiah Wright sits quietly, his head down, at a theological conference at Howard University this afternoon. It was a striking contrast to his news conference at the National Press Club yesterday. (Hamil R. Harris)

On Monday night he also was silent at the District's Shiloh Baptist Church, where the Rev. Wallace Charles Smith and other leaders prayed and laid hands on the minister.

But in a brief interview with The Washington Post this afternoon, Wright said it is ironic

that the media packed the National Press Club.

"You heard what I said yesterday morning. I said last year we were trying to get people to come and nobody came. I just wish that the media would focus on more of what they are saying (people in the conference) because they are trying to make this about me and Barack."

During the conference Barbara Reyonds moderated a panel that was entitled "The Prophetic Witness in the African American Religious Experience," where Alton B. Pollard III, dean of the Howard divinity school, and other religious leaders talked about the implications of Wrights's comments. Most of the speakers said the minister has a "prophetic role," and should not be silent, not even during a president election.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama called a news conference in North Carolina this afternoon to underscore that Wright does not speak for him or his campaign, and said he was outraged by the minister's words.

By Marcia Davis |  April 29, 2008; 5:05 PM ET  | Category:  2008 Presidential Race
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On the TV program THE VIEW, Obama declared that Reverend Wright accepted that his views on America were inappropriate and mischaracterized. Then weeks later Wright goes on a national Hate America Press Tour? Watching this video one can only conclude Obama simply lied. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv-WYqYVaX8


Posted by: Kay Lani Ray Rafko | April 29, 2008 6:53 PM

MEDIA PEOPLE, what is wrong with you folks ????

Pastor Wright is not a candidate in the presidential elections, so why do you all insist on featuring him. Come on, it's time to move on !

Posted by: Michelle | April 29, 2008 7:05 PM

It's Obama's supporters and the media (who are generally Obama supporters) who have been harassing Wright since mid-March.

"Wright retired from his weekly preaching duties in March. Almost simultaneously, the controversy began. Since then his life has been threatened, as has his church. The media barrage was so intense that some reporters apparently called a hospice in an attempt to speak to a dying Trinity member. "

Obama's fanatical, cult-like followers (and Obama) caused this problem.

Wright is who he is. It's not his job to be something else, take public harassment and degradation, and eat sh--, to benefit a political campaign.

Posted by: Annette Keller | April 29, 2008 7:08 PM

Pbama follows want to move on. But if it was any one except OBama they would have moved them out. For Left wing loonies that would have hung a white man from the highest tree in a heartbeat they think if its one of their own everyone should overlook that their Candidate has a 20 history with a American hating racist bigot..and his friends include Terrorist, Killers and Crooks and Americans are suppose to trust his and the Cult follows judgment!

Posted by: Jeff | April 29, 2008 7:17 PM

I can't tell you how tired I am of people calling Obama supporters fanatical.

Nobody I know who is an Obama supporter is anywhere near what could be considered a fanatic. I am an Obama supporter, but far from rabid -- I supported Bill Richardson until he dropped out of the race.

This is a clear trend of ad hominem attacks on Obama's supporters. Such attacks are never worth the words it takes to proclaim them.

For those of you who believe that Obama supporters are fanatical, please try to get over your idea of what it means to be an Obama supporter. The vast majority of us have arrived at our support of Obama through rational means, and via no small measure of disgust with the way the Clinton campaign has been run. I think that, after the past week, we can lump the majority of the mainstream media in with them as well. What was, for a while, a substantive campaign filled with debates over issues has since become a Mel Brooks style farce. Only this is in fact a tragic story, in that our entire political system and the future of this country hang in the balance.

The media love a horse race, and they'll try to keep it going as long as they can.

Posted by: Gonzeaux | April 29, 2008 7:20 PM

I hate to say it,but I no longer support Barak Obama.He turned on his pastor to satisfy the media, and people who would never vote for him anyway. Be a man,refuse to answer the daily questions about Rev. Wright, and talk about your plans for the country. By denouncing his pastor to please Tim Russert, Obama turned on a man that was there for him and his family 20 years before Chris Mathews ever heard of him. I wonder who among those I mentioned ,would have helped him pay his
bills in 1990?

Posted by: nativson | April 29, 2008 7:39 PM

How many who denounce Rev. Wright even listened to his whole sermon. How many white people even know a little of what goes on in a black church every Sunday. What if all we knew about Thomas Jefferson was that he owned slaves? Wright's snippets that are run over and over oon TV are taken out of context and he's judged on that. Won't some of Obamas helpers come to his defense and help us understand both Obamas' problem and point of view and Wrights job as a minister of his church. It ,might help help us all to come together. I'm 85, white and and I guess untypicle as are my fellow retirement commmunity members.

Posted by: Mary Ingram | April 29, 2008 7:40 PM

Kay Lani Ray Rafko is dead wrong. Hillary Clinton is the candidate who lies, and that gets her in trouble.
Barack Obama is the one who can't help telling the truth, and that has gotten him in trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM

Rev Wright "prophetic role" is to destroy Obama out of his desparate desire to be fame. He is an ubelievable destroyer and he does not speak for African church or black church. I wish Obama distance and disown this ego-centric person sooner. Obama will forever live to regret his association with a pastor is is selfish and self-center and does not care a bit about anything. Shame! Shame!! I'm more than sad to see this happening to Obama.

Posted by: John Adams | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM

Obama did not turn on his pastor. Wright was a complete embarrasment yesterday and made all his good works like helping the poor a tiny footnote in his career. He acted like a child and ungentlemently, often repremanding the host asking the questions. Obama had no choice but to distance himself from this displicable behavior and most of the black commentators agreed.

Posted by: lisa | April 29, 2008 8:06 PM

Its clear someone got to Wright and told him to shut up.

Remember who his bodyguards were yesterday?

Those guys don't fool around and don't bluff.

Wright's probably changing his underwear seven times a day.

There are powerful people trying to get Obama into office.

They are the last people most Americans would want to have easy access to the Oval office.

Don't forget what happened to Malcom X.

Do you really want the people behind him to be in charge of your country?

Thats what this election is really about.

That's why its so serious.

Posted by: Its clear someone got to Wright and told him to shut up | April 29, 2008 8:14 PM

The best piece I've read about the split between Obama and Wright is in today's New York Times, by Bob Herbert. I think he's correct when he says Wright probably feels as if Obama threw him under the bus for political purposes. Now Wright's returning the favor, but ostensibly for religious purposes.

I also thought it was funny how Obama said he couldn't imagine ever having the same relationship with Wright after all this. I suspect Wright's been feeling that way for a while. Making those comments just made it official that Wright himself wants no ties to Obama anymore.

In other words, Obama's been dissed and dismissed, as far as Wright's concerned.

Payback's a b#$ch, isn't it....

Posted by: democrat4ever | April 29, 2008 8:15 PM

Through all of this alleged "controversy" regarding Reverend Wright, I am baffled a bit. I didn't think a whole lot of it one way or the other - I think that a lot of preachers make outlandish allegations from the pulpit (the one from my parent's psycho church comes to mind, and he is as white a man as they come, yet he yells, rants, raves, and proclaims that every natural disaster or mutated disease known to man is somehow "god's" wrath on man for some perceived infraction of arbitrary rules).

But yesterday, when I heard Wright extolling the virtues of Minister Farrakhan and defending himself by proclaiming that an attack on HIM is really another example of an attack on black people via their religious traditions, that was it. I thought, "You know, this man really is hurting a man he allegedly prayed for his god to help a little over a year ago, and now his very words are undermining Obama's attempt to do great things for his country - all of his country."

I'm not an Obama supporter. In fact, my son and I have argued over his minuscule experience and extreme liberal record, short as it is. I have issues with his stand on issues, not with the color of his skin. I have respect for him distancing himself (finally!) from this religious whack-job that apparently is more interested in underscoring differences and gouging old scars back into open wounds.

People are afraid - for some odd reason - to speak out against what "men of god" have to say. My question to Mr. Wright is this. Particularly regarding all the good works your supporters have touted in defense of you - what would Jesus do? Would Jesus accept the gift of a multi-million dollar home, or would he insist that the money be used in the ministry to help the poor and needy? Didn't St Paul say "For by grace are ye saved through faith - not of WORKS lest any man should boast..."? When you and your supporters defend your hate speech by reciting all of your works, isn't that boasting and using WORKS to justify wrong doing? How do your words show the love of Jesus for whom you CLAIM to have been running for a very long time?

Mind you - I am not a Christian. I am not a Muslim or a Buddhist, or a Jew. I'm not a Catholic or a Hindu or a Wiccan. I've studied religious writings my whole life trying to understand how people can ignore the message and use it instead as justification for hate and war and racism and xenophobia and intolerance. I cannot find much reasonable or rational about it, unless of course, people take the content of the messages to heart and abide by "love thy neighbor as thyself" (and if you study religions, you know that there are similar concepts in ALL of them -whether it's Karma right down to the Wiccan belief that whatever you put out there comes back to you threefold).

I don't want to be forced to choose my President based on the "correct" religious dogma. Basically, I think they're all wrong. I want to know how he or she will fix what is broken in this country, improve our standing with allies and enemies alike (how many people have traveled abroad in the last seven years and gotten the hairy eyeball because you're an American? I have... it's not a good feeling). I want to know how people are going to afford medications and health care and groceries and mortgages. I want to know HOW they plan to turn things around and HOW they are going to facilitate BIPARTISAN EFFORT to fix our problems - because let's be realistic here - the President doesn't do the job alone. I want to know if we're ever going to cinch up the belt and commit to alternative energies that will erase or dependence on exhaustible natural resources that have the nasty byproduct of destroying the environment.

So Senator Obama, BRAVO for doing the right thing where the reverend was concerned. You want my vote in November? Start focusing on telling me HOW you plan to change the world we know, not more about your DESIRE to do it. Hope isn't gonna sell me on anything. Actions speak louder than words, and I need to know the plan here. I need assurances and guarantees that in the process of all this change, that our nation's most precious treasures (our liberties and the legacy left to us by the founding fathers) will not be decimated further in the process. Start sending that message to the voters, and we will say "Jeremiah who? Hillary who? John who?"

It's up to you.

Posted by: skeptic | April 29, 2008 8:44 PM

In Philadelphia Obama thought that he could talk his way out of the Wright issue, and boy did folks (and of course the media) swoon over his eloquence. Then, Obama thought that he could ignore the whole Wright thing except for a few "he doesn't speak for me" kinds of comments, which didn't seem to help Obama in PA. Now, Obama tries to "distance himself" further from Wright with some weak comments about being "outraged." Are the vast majority of people buying all of Obama's political hype -- NOPE!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

Do you really want the people behind him to be in charge of your country? Posted by: Its clear someone got to Wright and told him to shut up.

I've been reading the posts and blogs of the various articles. I am appalled at the overt racism on parade. Most of the sentiments I see only add credence to the fears of Rev. Wright. Note: The world is watching this and they are watching us. What hypocrites they must think we are. We, always on our high horse telling other nations and societies how to live their lives, and look at us. A nation of hypocrites!

Posted by: tydicea | April 29, 2008 9:04 PM

Native son,

I say amen to your comment. I've been an ardent supporter of Obama but I am sooo disappointed in him today. America deserves Hill & Bill or McCain. I really don't care anymore. Why waste my vote on either of them? Let's face it, nothing Obama can say will satisfy his critics. They're using the old "Divide and Conquer" tactic to bring Obama down and then trying to put the blame on Wright. All Wright has done is tell the truth. White folks cannot stand the truth, but you need to know it will make you free.

Posted by: native daughter | April 29, 2008 9:12 PM

If the press stop giving Rev.Wright a national plaform, he will go away. I am a 67yr.old Black woman, born and raised in Phila. PA same as Wright, same era. For all of his BLACKNESS, he is a CRAB.

Posted by: Charlotte in Decatur,GA | April 29, 2008 9:14 PM

Jeremiah Wright is Judas. If he is so full of hate that he is willing to spew is idiotic conspiracy theories, that is his business but what he is doing right now is trying to tear down Obama. If he is successful, what will Wright's legacy be "I helped destroy the candidacy of the first serious black Presidential candidate."? Why? So blacks will continue to see themselves only as victims and look to hatemongers such as himself? That would be a sad sorry legacy indeed.

Some claim Obama "through Wright under the bus." Give me a break, is Obama supposed to agree with an idiotic conspiracy theory that AIDS was created by the US Government? THere isn't a shread of evidence to back this up. I actually agree with some of Wright's comments but on the whole he is a selfish revolting backstabber. Shame on him!

Posted by: RealChoices | April 29, 2008 9:25 PM

I've just had it up to here with the ridiculous sideshow of Jeremiah Wright. I thought his comments were a non-issue vis-a-vis Obama's candidacy when they first came out, but the Republicans and Hillary have bludgeoned Barack with them anyway. Now Wright himself has taken the same misguided opportunity to bludgeon Obama with his outrageously self-serving (not to mention often inaccurate) statements.

To have the irrelevant Wright launched into the center of what is probably the most important election of my lifetime spins me into a rage, and I resent Wright's efforts to make himself of consequence in this election as much as I resented it when Hillary and the Republican extremists were attempting to doing so.

I'm just plain old fed up with this garbage. Go America. What a way to turn off vast swaths of American voters just at the moment in which they had become energized and willing to commit themselves to a new American politics. God forbid Americans decide to retake responsibility for their own government.

Pfft.

Posted by: tired of it | April 29, 2008 9:26 PM

In my book, the Reverend Wright said all the right thing during his obviously scripted presentation at the National Press Club. I listened to the whole tape and agreed full-heartedly with his historical account.
Unfortunately, he should have stuck to his text and not answered questions. That's the part when he completely unraveled and lost me and, I bet, many of those who agreed with his historical accounts at the Press Club and elsewhere.'
For Senator Obama it is next to impossible to completely divorce himself from Wright after nearly 20 years as a member of Wright's church.

Posted by: B.N. | April 29, 2008 9:33 PM

perhaps this is a plot between rev wright and obama in order to calm the waters. if it is not, then obama is a shameful, miserable individual, just like hilly clinton. mccain will have my vote; at least he sticks to his beliefs, however wrong they might be; just like W.

Posted by: FRANK RIVAS | April 29, 2008 9:36 PM

Watching Obama and his former Pastor hurl barbed words at each other ending a 20year close affiliation is wild TV drama. Even more worrisome is the fact that ex-pastor Wright came to make his speech at the Press meeting with strong bodyguards from Louis Farrakhan, and comments are made about the fate of "Malcolm X" (assasination), indicating potential violence. Obama has said he'll bring change--is this the type of new societal change we can expect? This cannot be, and I am concerned that the American people are being asked to understand too much about this new exotic candidate.

Posted by: Zaney8 | April 29, 2008 9:43 PM

44 dead soldiers in Iraq this month and all we are talking about is Wright. Well done American media, well done.

Posted by: Willy | April 29, 2008 9:51 PM

This election will determine the fate of the country financially. Neither of the guys looks like they would have any idea how to fix the flagging economy with huge debt. Aside from the overzealous antiwar Moveon.org and the blacks, Obama was mainly pushed by the young voters who wanted someone of their kind, i.e., inexperienced. Would you hire an inexperienced CEO to fix a company going bankrupt if you hope to have a chance to fix it? When the roof of your house leaks, would you hire a college grads who never done such work to fix it? No! But that's exactly what electing Obama really is. They successfully destroyed HRC using personal attack tactics similar to GOPs even though they have much less substance than HRC on issues and policy and vision to fix the country. Voters have been misled by these smokes. Every politician by nature is flawed because of the competitive nature of trying to pander to supporters. What voter should really focus on is whether the person has overall integrity to serve for the interest of the country,and whether has the competence, skill, experience. Even Kennedy had mistress. When you hiring a CEO, you are not hiring a nun or priest. But the sensational media would have nothing to hold the audience's attention if they don't talk about personal attacks of each side. But it's the voter who will pay the ultimate price when your salary stagnates, housing price slump, dollar value depreciates, price of everything including gas, food, tuition, tax, soaring, social security bankrupting, government huge deficit, individuals huge debts, all because we thought one guy is more likable than the other one, one guy has better faith than the other one. But the guy we picked turned out to be an inexperienced idiot controlled by the VP like a puppet. We better not make the same mistake, but guess it's too late now.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 10:09 PM

Obama was part of a hate mongering church for 20 years. He could not change that church.

In fact if you listen to Obama's wife and her hate towards America, the church actually changed them.

How is Obama change anything when he has not changed anything for 46 years, including his own church?

Posted by: Seed of Change | April 29, 2008 10:13 PM

read Mr. Robinson's latest editorial castigating Rev. Wright - and I must say that as a Black American woman - I've lost all manner of Respect for Mr. Robinson - not only does he come off as an Uncle Tom with little integrity, he comes off as someone who attempts to deny the voice of black America - and even participate in the lynching and caricatering of Rev. Wright as a minstrel.

I thought Rev. Wright's speech was brilliant and it made me proud.

Additionally - I don't see how any aspect of it was buffoonish or spectacle -like - this is only the talk of white racists who attempt to deny black America a voice and caricature us as minstrels and buffoons.

Rev. Wright merely spoke the truth.

White pundits and White conservative pastors vehemently attack black America all of the time - and I never See Mr. Robinson attack these white people as he's attacked Mr. Wright. These racist whites attacked Reve. Wright - almost lynched him - and Mr. Robinson like his white racist friends, expect Mr. Wright to take it like a "boy" - and to remain silent and seen and not heard - and continue to be ridiculed. Rev. Wright is a man - he has the right to defend his dignity.

The fact of the matter - is Obama - is showing that he does not have as much integrity as I would have liked. Although I will still support him as president - I believe that he feels as if he can take black America for granted - and must work harder to win the votes of racist White Pennsyvlanians, Ohioans, and other voters who in the end will never vote for him.

Look - Mr. Obama did not even show up to Commemorate King's assassination - he was not outraged at Sean Bell's killing, but stated that we are a nation of laws and that these laws must be respected - this is like saying that slavery must be respected in the 1800 because it was the law of the land.

Obama is stating that he will not shake up white supremacy - but in fact support it in order to become elected. Mr. Robinson is saying that Obama shoudl become elected at all costs - to black Americans losing their dignity and being stepped on.

Mr. Obama is wrong when he says that most Americans are not racist and want to move on. Many white Pennsyvlanians and Ohioans are racist and have a problem.

That Obama would ridicule and even denigrate Rev. Wright - for giving an alternative voice rather than pandering to white racists - is actually quite disgusting.

I also found Bob Herbert's and Eugene Robinson's editorial at the NY times on this issue disgusting. I've lost respect for both Eugene Robinson and Bob Herbert - you guys surely do not speak for black America - and you don't know if Obama would represent your interests - given the extent to which he's tried to pander to the likes of white blue collar voters.

Posted by: Thinker | April 29, 2008 10:25 PM

democrat4ever:

So, you are suggesting that Wright's allegedly hurt ego justifies his trashing Obama, a Presidential candidate and potential leader of the free world?

Of course that ignores Wright's failure to acknowledge any progress in race relations in the past 30 years, or his unsupported accusations regarding HIV/AIDS.

Posted by: michael4 | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM

Whatever Annette Keller meant by her statement, she was brilliant when she said that Wright is who he is - I'm actually appalled that Obama would expect Wright to eat Sh--t just so he could win the presidency and I count myself as an Obama supporter - but certainly no longer an enthusiastic supporter.

Obama would rather support the emasculation of a black man and truth teller, for the sake of pandering to racist whites who in the end will never vote for him. This is almost unforegivable.

So what does Obama want - for Wright to be a mere "boy" and just accept getting lynched, derided and ridiculed for speaking the truth and being far less racist and evil than the Bill O Reilly's , Rush Limbauhs, etc. etc. - Come on now?

Black Men can't even speak up and defend themselves and their manhood - lest it outrages Obama?
Then Obama latches onto the racist stereotype of blacks as minstrels and buffoons- even as blacks tell about all of the suffering they've experienced - whites and Obama dismiss it as mere buffoonery?

I'm very offended that Obama feels he has to work harder for the vote of a white blue collar racist in Ohio than my black American vote - and that he can disrespect the black American community in the process of doing so.

Posted by: Thnker | April 29, 2008 10:35 PM

It comes down to, do you want to lose valiantly, or do you want to win? It doesn't matter that much of what Wright said is true; many commentators have noted that. The vast majority does not want to hear that truth _from someone seeking to be President_. Period. The vast majority sure doesn't want anything associated with Louis Farrakhan near the Presidency. The vast majority would like to kill all Muslims, guilty of anything or not, and failing that, would like to forget that Muslims exist.

A radical is not going to win. A moderate might. Hillary is out to win at any cost. She'd throw BILL under the bus if it would get her the nomination. And in this case, I don't believe that Obama agrees with the things Wright said, and certainly not with the statement that Wright makes when he praises Farrakhan and surrounds himself with FOI.

I really feel for Obama. Lots and lots of people are profiting from the status quo, on both sides of the color line. Wright is one of them, Clinton is another (scared blacks = reliable Dem voters), and these people will fight to keep their comfy lifestyles.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM

If you look at Obama's background I could understand the pastor's comments. "Once a Moslem, always a Moslem" (my comment)and Barack was brought up in the Moslem religion. I Think Obama is trying to open the door to an Islam invasion. Keep in mind, (The religion you believe in cannot be changes except by an act of GOD!) and it doesn't appear to be so in Obama's case.

Remember the words of Islam, "We will destroy you from within" Kill all infidels!

Posted by: Jim Jones (JJ) | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM

One undefined term among many in this debate is the "prophetic voice." Wright talks about the p.v. of the "black church." But since churches don't speak, he must mean black ministers. Which ones? ALL of them? How do they know if they have this voice? Does it come with the job? And, more important, what does it REALLY mean?

To a minister like Wright, it seems to mean one who is empowered by God, as were the prophets, to speak to/aginst the moral order--and not suffer the consequences when one is off base. "Don't blame me! I'm accountable only to God. I'm above politics." No. This doesn't WASH with white phoneys like the late Falwell. And it won't wash with Wright.

Posted by: David | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM

I still think that all of the hoopla surrounding the Rev. Wright is out of context for this obviously very learned man. At his age of senority, he has decided to let it all hang out. There is no need to mince words. There is an opening in the American dialogue for an honest look at race relations and prejudice in this country. I also admire Barack for his very thoughtful words today. It is tough on everyone involved.
As a white man about the same age as Rev. Wright, I was amazed that I could understand the points that he was making. He was attributed to admiring Louis F. I just heard him making a few observations about the man. I did not sense that he was expressing admiration for the man. In my estimation, the only part of his talk yesterday that kind of went out of bounds was implying that Barack must do and say some things because he is in the political environment, which suggested that Barack is less than truthful. Barack should have taken some offense at this. It is ashame that all of the talking heads did not understand the various literary uses that Rev. Wright applied in his talk yesterday. He was a master of these literary devices. However, Rev. Wright has shown us again that the average American is a bit slow to understand the things that require some insight and higher level thinking. I reflect on the "Jaywalking" episodes on the "Tonight Show." It is amazing that average Americans can indeed be so dumb. It is time to give Rev. Wright his due and move on. He has provided a lot of material for ministers and laypeople alike to discuss for years to come. I think that when we look back on this episode, a different view will prevail. I am glad to read in an earlier post that one African-American lady was proud to hear what Rev. Wright said. I heard way too many Blacks castigating him last night on the various news channels. Shakespeare wrote "To thine ownself be true." Rev. Wright was doing this.
Yesterday someone wrote that Barack in his inexperience would be just another Bush. I strongly disagree on one very obvious point -- Barack can give a speech. Bush will never be able to deliver a decent speech. I offer Bush's press conference in the Rose Garden today as a prime example of a English mangling, idiotic, and silly attempt to talk to the American people about very important issues.

Posted by: Earl C., Virginia Beach | April 29, 2008 10:48 PM

Thinker:

Obama is running for President of all Americans, nut just blacks. If we are indeed racists (all of us), isn't that the very thing we are supposed to be working on? Living only in the past doesn't help.

Wright said a lot of things, much of which was reasonably true enough, yet he went way too far with unsubstantiated accusations, smart alecky reactions, and disrespect of Obama. He left open to interpretation too many questions that could easily have been answered in a positive manner, e.g. "politician" - is that "just" a politician, a liar, or what? I wouldn't have left is open for the likes of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill Orally...

Also, poor timing. Obama has more to worry about right now than his "friend's" perhaps unjustified hurt feelings. Wright had an opportunity to be more understanding, but obviously chose not to.

There comes a time when enough IS enough.

Posted by: michael4 | April 29, 2008 10:57 PM

In a previous statment about Barack Hussein Obama, to add the comments
in a cerimony the 'National Anthym' was being performed and he refused to
salute the flag being raised. Also in some national statments called our
' Constitution Of United States ' "Just words." Also he and Rice (Speaker of the house)
holding a swearing in of the presidency, using the Koran bibles. (I have photographs)
if you would like to see them email: [aisvnazron@cfl.rr.com]
This man does not believe in a free and liberal country where all men are
created equal. So you folks who believe Obama Hussein Obama is good, ?
Think again.
He will ruin our country !!!

Posted by: Jim Jones (JJ) | April 29, 2008 11:04 PM

Jim Jones (JJ):

Both an idiot and a liar.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:07 PM

Kay Lani Ray Rafko is dead wrong. Hillary Clinton is the candidate who lies, and that gets her in trouble.
Barack Obama is the one who can't help telling the truth, and that has gotten him in trouble.

Posted by: | April 29, 2008 8:02 PM
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What I wanna know is - has Obama ever spoken the truth. I mean with Hillary you might try to count the lies. With Obama it is just easier to look for anything truthful. This low life hypocrite has lied on EVERY single issue:

Obama said he was for a single payer health system, but now opposes plans that cover every American.

He promised to repeal the Patriot Act, but then voted to extend it.

He promised to normalize relations with Cuba, but flip-flopped when he started running for president.

He rails against NAFTA in Ohio while his top economic advisor assures the Canadians his rhetoric is just "political positioning."

He promises to opt in to public financing if the GOP nominee does, but then breaks that pledge in real time.

He promises to withdraw from Iraq within 16 months, and now his top foreign policy adviser says that he's not relying on the plan.

At first he knew of no controversial remarks from his pastor. Then he knew it. Then he knew some but not others.

At first the "union" that brought him into this world was caused by the bridge crossing/civil rights movement in Selma which, by the way, actually happened 5 years afterwards. Long after he was born.

He flattered Kennedys by crediting them for funding his father's arrival to US when the Kennedys had nothing to do with it.

Don't even get me going over the questionnaires he has filled indicating positions he has completely contradicted during this campaign cycle.

Obama claims he doesn't take money from lobbyists. Semantics. Because about HALF of his donations come from big donors and "bundlers" who in terms of influence on campaign and favors they expect in return are not much different from lobbyists. His bundlers include partners from 18 top law firms, 21 Wall Street executives and power brokers from Fortune 500 companies. Use of bundlers was perfected by George W. Bush who established a hierarchy of "Rangers" and "Pioneers" to monitor their progress.

Obama didn't think he was experienced enough to run for President in 2004. "I am a believer in knowing what you are doing when you apply for a job. And I think that If I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket I would essentially have to start now before having served a day in the senate. Now there's some people who might be comfortable doing that but I am not one of those people."

He said he doesn't accept money from Oil lobbyists. Semantics. Obama has taken at least $263,000 from oil company executives, family members and employees since entering the presidential race last year, including $46,000 last month. At least $140,000 has come in chunks of between $1,000 and $2,300, the maximum permitted under federal law.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:11 PM

Today I saw the future President of the United States. He was honest, fortright, thoughtful and compelling in his press conference today in denoucning Rev. Wright. Sen. Obama has finally shown me the mettle he is made of.

Posted by: tim | April 29, 2008 11:13 PM

I wonder if all this was worth it to Senator Obama and wright. I feel sorry for them. They are on a national stage and they're pitiful. I don't understand how this man can be president. We're all holding our breath for the next shoe to drop!

Posted by: kt | April 29, 2008 11:18 PM

I will be voting for Hillary. What has Obama done for black America. At least we have a record of what the Clintons have done for black america. They will try to help all people who have been forgotten for the last seven years. The first rule in instructing people to be radical is to play on their plight, to exaggerate their predicament in order to have them become very disatisfied, unhappy and angry enough to fight whoever they feel are causing the problem. This is what Wright and Obama has done in order to make themselves powerful.

Posted by: Hillarybill | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM

O-baaaa-ma,
O-ba-ma, you'll see,
he floats like a butterfly,
and stings like a bee!

Obama is still the champ!
Barack is baaaaak!

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | April 29, 2008 11:22 PM

One thing is certain: Barack Obama has no integrity. A man without principle is undeserving of support.

Posted by: Andrew Austin | April 29, 2008 11:33 PM

A radical is not going to win. A moderate might. Hillary is out to win at any cost. She'd throw BILL under the bus if it would get her the nomination.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 10:40 PM

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Clinton stayed by her husband because she understands no one is perfect - that people are flawed. You should measure people based on what is good in them rather than what is bad. That is also the reason why Clinton supporters would never abandon Hillary. Yes, she is not perfect. But we remember how ferociously she fought to get us Universal Healthcare. Yes, she failed. Yes, she could have done things differently. But we understand that sometimes people fail - it is quite normal. Infact in life one learns as much from failures as success. That she fought for us means a lot to us. We remember the $100 million dollars worth of garbage dumped on her by the Insurance industry. We saw the steel in this woman as they tried to break her but couldn't. The candidate and her supporters understand something that Obamaf@cks just cannot: loyalty. Not blind loyalty. Rather, loyalty that is due to the best presidency of the last 50 years. A presidency that had many more good things in it than bad. A loyalty that is due to the first lady who put her heart and soul into getting us Universal Healthcare, whose heart was always in that perfect place.

That sort of sentiment - those values are not something superficial Obama reptiles and insects cannot comprehend. The Obama filth is of the sort that fires a soldier when he returns from the battlefield because he is too tarnished by enemy fire. Obama scums are the sort of pseudo intellect who bluster and spit on a soldier for having failed to capture an enemy outpost. Ignoring how fearlessly the soldier charged into enemy fire, they b!tch and moan about the flaws in the soldier's technique.

I would spit on these low lives except I respect my spit too much.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 11:34 PM

To Micheal4 - I don't think the Pastor is living in the past - he's speaking the truth - and I think he spoke the truth eloquently and mildly. Black Americans and our culture are subjected to demeaning attacks from the media and white conservatives on almost a daily basis -if We respond as Rev. Wrigth did - we are the one's labelled as racists - rather than the real racists themselves.

I don't really care for Obama - that much any more - whether he wins or not.

I do count myself as an Obama supporter - however, I don't think the dignity of the black American race should be sacrificed just so Obama can win.

Obama is comprising principles and moral integrity with regard to stands on racism in order to attempt to win the presidency.

Obama seems to want to pander to blue collar whites from Ohio and Pennsylvania - many of whom are racist - and seems to sacrifice many ideals that are important to black Americans

If this is what Obama has to do to become president is it really worth it?

I mean - I feel as if we've moved backwards several decades - as the conservative rights has wanted us to do.

It's almost a ccrime for a black man - to stand up and resist being denigrated and treated like a boy.

Both Obama and many white conservatives - many of whom are racist - expected Rev. Wright to just take the lies, the denigrations, etc. - and remain silent - rather than stand up like a man

When Rev. Wright stood up like a man - then the racist commentators tried to emasculate him and paint him as a buffoon - and Obama even agreed with his "spectacle" comment.

As if a black American addressing the truth and racist ills is mere buffoonery even admist the racist onslaught of the white conservative commentators.

White commentators and their religious white pastors insult black Americans on a daily basis - Even Mike Huckabee supported supporters of the Confederate flag -and where is the outcry? There is none of it.

Rev. Wright spoke the truth - and he was very eloquent about how many white Americans attempt to caricature ALL black Americans and render black America invisible. I disagree with the Uncle Tom Eugene Robinson - not only was this an attack on the BLACK Church - this is an Attack on Black America.

Posted by: Thinker | April 29, 2008 11:36 PM

I wonder if all this was worth it to Senator Obama and wright.

Posted by: kt | April 29, 2008 11:18 PM

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Oh, Wright was very much worth it to Obama - believe you me. Obama rode Wright to get legitimacy in the black community. To get where he is. He is now coolly dumping Wright like one gets rid of some crack wh0re when a classy lady (presidency) comes into sight.

Posted by: Obama uses and dumps wright like toilet paper. | April 29, 2008 11:38 PM

...What has Obama done for black America. At least we have a record of what the Clintons have done for black america. ...

Posted by: Hillarybill | April 29, 2008 11:20 PM
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And what exactly is it that the Clintons ACTUALLY did for black America? Not cronys, the "warp and woof" of black America.

Don't believe the hype.

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 11:39 PM

Thinker:

I agree that Rev Wright should be able to say what he feels he must; in dignity and with honor. At the same time, if what he says causes offense then he is obliged to accept responsibility for what he said. True, those who were offended probably did not listen with an open mind/heart, but that is not something that can always be counted on. I hope this exchange results in progress on race relations and discussion in this country. It has been buried, but it still smolders. You're right about at least some of the votes in Pa and Ohio, race based no doubt. Sad, though. In the same way many votes for Mr. Obama are race based, that's sad too. He is a genuinely good candidate, and he has real shortcomings and strengths; who doesn't. We need to move on, all of us. On all sides of the divide. But, without perceived truth being exchanged (Rev Wright commentary), it will be hard to get over this issue. We need to listen and understand one another first. Then, hopefully, we can move on together.

Posted by: jmw | April 29, 2008 11:40 PM

to bring this all to an end - all we see is character assassination of someone who can be a great leader except for one thing- HE IS BLACK. And for that matter, no WHITE PERSON Man or woman, wants their white house to be run and lived in by Blacks - but tell u something, if race is all that people can rely on for competence and electability, then it is time a black leads and a white follows. It is high time that the orders are reversed for these 2 human species created by one God. U know what the difference will be? The whites will be treated with respect and humility unlike how they behaved when blacks were slaves.

Posted by: trups | April 29, 2008 11:48 PM

Obama should have seen this coming and distanced himself and his family from Wright long before now.

Wright is a shameful embarrassment to Obama and all blacks. He has done untold damage to all Americans, and he should be ashamed of himself. His past is no excuse for his actions. He needs to get over it.

Many of us who lived through segregation and participated in the civil rights demonstrations suffered great indignities. But we have moved on. Wright has not. What a disgrace he is!

Shame Shame Shame!!!!!

Posted by: allforchange | April 29, 2008 11:48 PM

Clinton stayed by her husband because she understands no one is perfect - that people are flawed. You should measure people based on what is good in them rather than what is bad. That is also the reason why Clinton supporters would never abandon Hillary. Yes, she is not perfect. But we remember how ferociously she fought to get us Universal Healthcare. Yes, she failed. Yes, she could have done things differently. But we understand that sometimes people fail - it is quite normal. Infact in life one learns as much from failures as success. That she fought for us means a lot to us. We remember the $100 million dollars worth of garbage dumped on her by the Insurance industry. We saw the steel in this woman as they tried to break her but couldn't. The candidate and her supporters understand something that Obamaf@cks just cannot: loyalty. Not blind loyalty. Rather, loyalty that is due to the best presidency of the last 50 years. A presidency that had many more good things in it than bad. A loyalty that is due to the first lady who put her heart and soul into getting us Universal Healthcare, whose heart was always in that perfect place.
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Typical Clinton follower (and I DO mean FOLLOWER). Best presidency since 1958? Let's see, JFK saved us from Nuclear War. LBJ passed Civil and Voting Rights. Reagan ended the Cold War. What'd Bill do that measures up to that?

I won't argue that the Clintons are flawed. But I doubt that's why Hillary stayed with Bill. Probably more like, she'd already stepped out with Webb Hubbell and had his baby to boot (seriously, LOOK at the pictures), so she knew she hadn't done right by Bill. Plus, she leaves Bill, she never sniffs the WH.

And Hillary didn't fight ferociously for health care, she fought ferociously to do it her way. That's why, 16 years later, we're still waiting for it. We'd have had it if she wasn't determined to piss off moderate Dems and moderate Repubs. And there was something to it, since the nation voted Dems out of power for the first time in 40 years as a consequence.

As for loyalty, how much loyalty did the Clintons show Lani Guinier? Jocelyn Elders? Jeremiah Wright? Hmm?

The CLinton supporters remind me daily why I support Obama. Because to support Clinton, that have to forget virtually everything. They have to make up this alternate reality. I live in the real world, where Hillary had Webb Hubbell's baby, is currently cavorting with Huma Abedin (which means the marriage is a lie foisted on all of us to further her ambitions), will say and do ANYTHING to win (lie about NAFTA, lie about sniper fire, promote race hatred -- just read these posts about 'the blacks' -- and send her black surrogates out with scurrilous lies about Obama so she doesn't get hit with the racist tag).

Posted by: gbooksdc | April 29, 2008 11:49 PM

As for Wright speaking the truth - that's no justification for what he's done to Obama. His actions and words are inexcusable. He has railroaded Obama in a way that is absolutely shocking.

How dare he! He should be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: allforchange | April 29, 2008 11:52 PM

Maybe now Obama must give a speech on religion. Now a speech on judgement, how he misjudged (boneheaded!) Rezko and then 20 years later he screwed up again. And this will please the left wing loonies.

Posted by: rudy | April 29, 2008 11:55 PM

The worst thing is that Wright has single handedly sabotoged the very goal of the civil rights movement. Equaility. The right and the freedom to participate in our society as equals. Obama's exercise of his right to run for the Presidency is symbolic of the very reason people gave their lives in the 60's.

That Wright would unhinge everything Obama has done is unforgivable. I support Hillary, but I am a 60+ black who is pround of what Obama has accomplished. He has been stellar.

Wright has been,and remains, disgraceful. Audacity? Wright speaks for the black church? Never! Wright speaks for himself.

Posted by: allforchange | April 30, 2008 12:00 AM

several observations arise from watching this soap opera:
-if you preach hate, you draw hate.
-if you throw your pastor under the bus, after 20 years, a wedding, baptisms and endowments, you are as Judas to Christ
-BHO supporters, after this sorry display of cowardice and prevarication, may indeed be termed rabid if they continue to support BHO. Wake up, kids.

Posted by: watching a travesty | April 30, 2008 12:10 AM

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several observations arise from watching this soap opera:
-if you preach hate, you draw hate.
-if you throw your pastor under the bus, after 20 years, a wedding, baptisms and endowments, you are as Judas to Christ
-BHO supporters, after this sorry display of cowardice and prevarication, may indeed be termed rabid if they continue to support BHO. Wake up, kids."

Hey, James Carville, nice to see you here! Seriously, are you nuts really comparing someone to Judus? Now you're comparing Rev. Wright to Christ? Your vision is truly astonishing.

This isn't Obama throwing someone under a bus, it's Obama trying to get out of the way of a bus driven by someone with a mental disease (egomania if nothing else).

And yes, those who support Obama based on real issues (like war, etc...) must be 'rabid'. If only we could concentrate on important issues like flag pins and 'who loves america more'! Get a life. Read a book.

Posted by: epthorn | April 30, 2008 12:15 AM

We cannot fault Reverend Wright for outing Obama. Obama has continualy hurt people who have adored, loved and supported him.

Its just too deep with him and Reverend Wright. I do believe Reverend Wright thinks God has a given him a message. and who knows? Maybe God has.

I do not believe at all the racist comments, but that has been Reverend Wright all his life, its his beliefs. I am so confused with my own thoughts lately and beliefs. My only prayer is for a strong America.

But to have his mninistry ruined by Barack Obama, by throwing Reverend under the bus, he just stepped on the wrong person's toes. And it must have been "dozens" time, as Wright says.

I am nervous for all who are involved and I pray that God will protect them all. Never have I witnessed anything of this magnitude.

God Bless America!

Posted by: Grandma Dee | April 30, 2008 12:59 AM

Why are you people discussing this rediculous issue. Is there a single bit of evidence in anything Senator Obama has done his entire life that would suggest he agrees with anything this man has to say. No, there isn't. Anyone stupid enough to reject Obama for this reason should do us all a favor and not vote. There are serious issues facing this country that need to be dealt with. If you feel senator Mccain would do a better job then vote for him. But please do not pick a President because you dont like Obamas pastor. I think the last 8 years have shown us what happens when we choose a president for trivial reasons.

Also, the post suggesting the extremists such as Fericon will control the White House if Obama is elected is just plain ugly. Poorly veiled racism. Keep that garbage to yourself.

Finally, do you really expect Obama to defend this narcisistic joker. I would have thrown this guy under the bus long ago. he is a highly educated man and he darn well knows the US government did not invent AIDS to harm the african american population. He says such things to stir fear and rage. For what purpose. to forment more violence. Senator Obamas approach of reconciliation seems much more constructive. It benifits us all. It also seems to me that Dr King would agree with Senator Obama and not reverend Wright.

Posted by: Mike | April 30, 2008 1:16 AM

"It's Obama's supporters and the media (who are generally Obama supporters) who have been harassing Wright since mid-March."

If you'd pull your head back out of the place where you have inserted it, Annette Keller, you would perhaps remember that it wasn't the Obama campaign who ran the clips of Wright's sermons over and over and over. It was Fox News, followed by the rest of the media. It wasn't the Obama campaign who thrust Rev. Wright into the spotlight. Now they have to clean up after what was, at most, a minor distraction.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 1:25 AM

Now let's do Rev. Hagee and his white supremacist and anti-semitic comments, and see what McCain has to say.

Posted by: tom | April 30, 2008 1:28 AM

And then Hillary's DC pastor who was sentenced for molesting little girls....

Fair is fair!

Posted by: tom | April 30, 2008 1:30 AM

Everyone has an agenda - amazing that a man who uses ideas of hate as a motivational tool in professing religion, and preaches unprovable conspiracy theories as they were facts. the Rev is (was) in a position of trust with the people in his pews. How many fall prey to these tactics?

There is nothing wrong with impassioned speech, but even apart from the sound bites Wright repeated the same maddening statements yesterday. Who would not distance themselves from this oral diarrhea? The two are pretty much polar opposites.

Obama reaches across the divide, striving to close the gap and bring people together, while Wright seeks to deepen the wedges. Obama practices tolerance for people like Wright, and I admired the fact that he stuck by his guns during his speech on race.

Hillary plain out said she would have changed her colors again, thrown the pastor under the bus right away and left skid marks in front of the church. But she probably baked Wright cookies when Bill had him over at the Whitehouse though.

Why even give Wright the airtime or press? What about Iraq? What about the economy?

Posted by: DonJulio | April 30, 2008 1:35 AM

. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.... .

Posted by: Clayton | April 30, 2008 2:26 AM

I think the DonJulio poster and others are the real hate mongers.

people keep harping on Wright's comments about the US Gov't inventing AIDS.

Yet this is a popular view among indigenous Africans in Africa - especially in the AIDS belt.

Wright is given expression to a popularly held view.

The Julio's are racist - because they portray Wright and Black America as if we are the genesis of the hate rather than the response to the hate.

MOst of what Rev. Wright - stated is simply the truth.

I find it a bit odd - that white America and some silly black Americans would attempt to dismiss the truth of most of what Wright stated - merely based on alleged theatrics and "performance".

And one must really ask how much integrity does Obama have.

Are Wright's statements about black americans being rendered invisible by racists - ridiculous and objectionable comments?

About the religion of the slaveholder teaching that whites are superior and that blacks are inferior?

Come on now - do these 2 comments about Farrakhan and AIDS overshadow all of the other truth that Wright spoke.

My problem is - is that Obama stated that he has a problem with everything that WRight stated - even that which was a legitimate critique of American evil.


Yet Obama does not have a problem with white racism in Ohio or Pennsylvania - suddenly lunch pail racists in Ohio are less racist than Jeremiah Wright

This is what Hannity and Hannity on TV and other whites would have you think - and thi sis simply not true.

Whites are so racist - they have a tendency to do this - with any black - but particularly slave descended black Americans who -tackle racism head on - and in an angry way.

They call WRight egotistical - merely because he fights back against the lynching of him.

What about the egotistical, evil white conservative commentators who refuse to look at the hate and racism that they spew which have created the Rev. Wrights?

What about Bill O' Reilly - and his lynching comment with respect to Michelle Obama - what about Pat Buchannan and his racist comments?

You see - the American people are so DUMB - that all they care about are WEDGE racial issues rather than solving real problems involving the economy, etc.

Posted by: Thinker | April 30, 2008 3:02 AM

Come on folks, Obama goes to Pastor Wrights church for 20 years and doesn't know how the man feels on most issues? His wife revealed what they think. Mama Obama said, "For the 1st time in my adult life I'm proud of America." Come on folks. Obama is trying to pull a fast and loose one on America.

Posted by: jason | April 30, 2008 3:37 AM

It is a tragic moment for America. When Obama criticized Wright, Obama was keeping in mind that a black president of the US is a black president of ALL Americans, and not just of black Americans. Obama is now going to have a really hard time convincing the white working class, "I represent you too."
Much of what Wright said was true, but the part about the US government creating AIDS to hurt blacks is the raving of a maniac. A lot of the early victims of AIDS were white.
Now, a lot of White Americans are going to be thinking, we have had forty years of affirmative action, busing, two black secretaries of state, a black man with the potential to become president, and still, a lot of black Americans are still living in paranoia. Can they be trusted with power? It is a real question. To be sure, Obama is a lot better than Bush, but Bush is not running. Wright has made things easier for both Hillary and McCain. Does Wright realize this?

Posted by: Rohit | April 30, 2008 6:25 AM

If you look at Obama's background I could understand the pastor's comments. "Once a Moslem, always a Moslem" (my comment)and Barack was brought up in the Moslem religion. I Think Obama is trying to open the door to an Islam invasion. Keep in mind, (The religion you believe in cannot be changes except by an act of GOD!) and it doesn't appear to be so in Obama's case.

Remember the words of Islam, "We will destroy you from within" Kill all infidels!


Posted by: Jim Jones (JJ) | April 29, 2008 10:41 PM
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It's not "Moslem" it's Muslim. Unless you are one who calls a Christian, Kreesh-chun.

And, by NO ACCOUNT, was or is Barrack a Muslim. He has always believed that God fathered a human child. A child that Muslim's believe was a great prophet only, Jesus, pbuh.

No Muslim believes that tenent of the Chirstian faith but love Jesus, no less.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 6:37 AM

Maybe sadness is clouding your logic...

"Rev Wright "prophetic role" is to destroy Obama out of his desparate desire to be fame. He is an ubelievable destroyer and he does not speak for African church or black church. I wish Obama distance and disown this ego-centric person sooner. Obama will forever live to regret his association with a pastor is is selfish and self-center and does not care a bit about anything. Shame! Shame!! I'm more than sad to see this happening to Obama.

Posted by: John Adams"

Posted by: tony | April 30, 2008 7:01 AM

"All Wright has done is tell the truth. White folks cannot stand the truth, but you need to know it will make you free."

WTF? Like Al Campanis was telling the truth about black people? Just because you may sypathize with the person does not mean you can defend their comments. Al Campanis' career and reputation were destroyed even though he was a nice man. You cannot have a double standard with Wright because he is black. There are definite ties to Obama that would not be such a big deal if Obama's campaign was not built almost entirely on his character and judgement (definitely not his debate performances or record in the Senate).

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 7:01 AM

LOL. All right Carville. I'm not sure that Wright intended these consequences. Remember these things take on a new life in the media and on the web. Regardless, idiotic Dems have been conspiring to take down the first viable woman candidate too. So this shouldnt surprise you at all...

"Jeremiah Wright is Judas. If he is so full of hate that he is willing to spew is idiotic conspiracy theories, that is his business but what he is doing right now is trying to tear down Obama. If he is successful, what will Wright's legacy be "I helped destroy the candidacy of the first serious black Presidential candidate."? Why? So blacks will continue to see themselves only as victims and look to hatemongers such as himself? That would be a sad sorry legacy indeed."

Posted by: blkdude4hillary | April 30, 2008 7:06 AM

I trashed Bush endlessly during his campaigns. So that does not bother me at all.
As for the status of race relations, the income gap is expanding and schools are vastly resegregated and unequal. Worse than Plessy: separate and unequal. The AIDS thing is a wild conspiracy theory that blacks have espoused for over a decade. It's absolutely preposterous - but this is a black "urban legend."

"So, you are suggesting that Wright's allegedly hurt ego justifies his trashing Obama, a Presidential candidate and potential leader of the free world?

Of course that ignores Wright's failure to acknowledge any progress in race relations in the past 30 years, or his unsupported accusations regarding HIV/AIDS.

Posted by: michael4 | April 29, 2008 10:33 PM"

Posted by: BlkDude4Hillary | April 30, 2008 7:10 AM

You just figured this out? I have doubted, questioned, and criticized the Obama worship among blacks and white liberals from the start. It was such a farce - promoting him as some kind of racial liberator. What a joke!

Thinker said: "The fact of the matter - is Obama - is showing that he does not have as much integrity as I would have liked. Although I will still support him as president - I believe that he feels as if he can take black America for granted - and must work harder to win the votes of racist White Pennsyvlanians, Ohioans, and other voters who in the end will never vote for him.

Look - Mr. Obama did not even show up to Commemorate King's assassination - he was not outraged at Sean Bell's killing, but stated that we are a nation of laws and that these laws must be respected - this is like saying that slavery must be respected in the 1800 because it was the law of the land.

Obama is stating that he will not shake up white supremacy - but in fact support it in order to become elected. Mr. Robinson is saying that Obama shoudl become elected at all costs - to black Americans losing their dignity and being stepped on."

Posted by: BlkDude4Hillary | April 30, 2008 7:13 AM

Rev. Wright, seems to be Obama's lapse in judgement -- a twenty year lapse in judgement. I guess, we will not be hearing about Hillary's lapse in judgement on voting for the Iraq war.

Posted by: SJ | April 30, 2008 7:25 AM

This goes to the heart of why many Democrats do not support Obama.

I have to question Obama's judgement of sitting in Wright's pews for 20 years, allowing this racist, hate filled preacher to have influence on his family's moral values. Many would have found a new church long ago that didn't depend on keeping its members "victims" for being black.

Even Michelle Obama spilled this racist rant months ago(before Clinton mentioned the word "race")in her "black man" speech.

Lets start uniting by getting rid of the hyphanated culture words that only divide and separate, not unite.

Posted by: CR | April 30, 2008 7:35 AM

Both Rev. Wright and the lady who invited him to the National Press Club keep talking about the "truth" that must be told, but the statements about 9/11 being God's punishment of the US, and about the US giving AIDS to the Blacks are clearly untrue. It is only the usual hate-mongering racism.

Posted by: Bodo | April 30, 2008 7:46 AM

Hahahaha... skinny, pasty white guys who love Obama... Funny facebook group.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17099019879&ref=mf

Posted by: Funny Stuff | April 30, 2008 7:49 AM

I find it inteeesting that the media attempt to sound bite the Reverend Wright and Senator Obama to death over the race issue. Obama is the first politician I can remember who addressed the issue of race honestly, forthrightly and responsibly. His very entry into the race -- and onto the scent -- brought before us an issue of life or death for our nation and for our "experiment in democracy." The Founding Fathers ducked the issue and passed the buck -- all the way to the Civil War and all the way to us. President or not, Senator Obama has done his country a service equivalent to that of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. This provided an opening for Reverend Wright through the media's nearly unanimous and cowardly demonization of him and obfuscation of the isssue at hand -- it's time for reconciliation. As the Reverend said (repeatedly, in fact), "you have to hear the whole message." Of COURSE the Reverend Wright is controversial -- and folks' responses show their biases in stark relief, and, true to form, these biases are both ugly and stupid. The last Jeremiah was largely ignored, to his people's detriment, and, as Mark Twain supposedly observed, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does sometimes rhyme." We're in for an interesting century. If, as the Reverend quotes the Old Testament, "As ye sow, so shall ye reap," we'd better get started sowing reconciliation and peace. We're already in for trouble -- we need to end this. As Gandhi observed, "you have to be the change you want to see." Therefore, I'll change my voting intention, change my actions and, of coures, change my political party. It's time for change. And we can do it. And no, I don't believe in "you go first."

Posted by: Jack Cole | April 30, 2008 7:52 AM

"to bring this all to an end - all we see is character assassination of someone who can be a great leader except for one thing- HE IS BLACK. And for that matter, no WHITE PERSON Man or woman, wants their white house to be run and lived in by Blacks - but tell u something, if race is all that people can rely on for competence and electability, then it is time a black leads and a white follows. It is high time that the orders are reversed for these 2 human species created by one God. U know what the difference will be? The whites will be treated with respect and humility unlike how they behaved when blacks were slaves.

Posted by: trups | April 29, 2008 11:48 PM

Talk about a RACIST statement! It's high time to stop playing the victim for being black. The slavery card has been overplayed for decades. Your statement is about revenge, not about who is the best qualified to be President, regardless of race.

Posted by: CR | April 30, 2008 7:52 AM

It is a sad day for America and especially the black community when black church leaders defend Wright as a prophetic leader of this era. Wright is a grand stander who cares only about himself - he is rascist, bigot, a liar, anti-american etc etc, and if black churches think about America in the same terms, perhaps we SHOULD relook at what "these pastors" are teaching in the pulpit. It should be against the law for such incendiary anti-American remarks. Good works alone will not get you into heaven - it is all about how closely you follow in Jesus' steps. AND as far as Obama, I guestion his integrity, his judgement, his non-confrontary nature to listening to such remarks for over 20 years, and doing nothing about them. He had a duty as a State legislature and US Senator to take appropriate actions when such political views are aired from a pulpit. Furthermore, I am sick and tired of hearing about blacks and whites - we are all Americans - let's act as such.

Posted by: Chris | April 30, 2008 8:14 AM

With or without Wright in the news, I support Obama. Wright will do what he wants to do. Nobody can control him. He is a force of his own. Obama will do what he wants to do. He is running for President to help America as a country and Americans improve the situation that they are in. I will do what I want to do. That is to support Obama. The media needs to keep ratings up so you can expect them to do what works for them. Those that try to continue to make the presidential race about Wright are suspect.

Posted by: Cynthia L.A | April 30, 2008 8:22 AM

This NUT JOB - Pastor has no business saying anything relating to our country and demeaning the people. Who is he that gives him the right to pass judgement on a nation and his people. The man is sick in his head and should be locked up .

A CLASS ACTION BY ALL BLUE COLLAR WORKERS SWOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AND THE SAME THING SHOULD BE DONE BY ALL AMERICANS WHO HE HAS CONDEMMED FOR FALSE STATEMENTS AND ACCUSED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF CRIMES AGAINST THE COUNTRY, PLUS SLANDER!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | April 30, 2008 8:34 AM

For Hillary Followers from a Central New Yorker:
Sit in a room with Senator Clinton at a meeting with local Labor Leaders trying to discuss why a close friend (and one of the nation's largest mall developers who resides locally) should pay prevailing wage rates, or even living wage rates, and should keep the mall expansion going with local labor (not manned with an out-of-state workforce)...Oh wait a minute...she did not attend because she was "having a good day" as stated by her aide and did not "want to be upset"...and it was also because she would be guesting at the developer's house - as she usually does when she's in town...
She surrounds herself with unscrupulous rich and wealthy people...and has only plastic regard for those of us that really work for a living...we are a tool, a means to an end...never let that out of your sight. Play if you pay.
Staying with a man who engaged "sexual relations" with a person who was clearly in a subordinate position speaks volumes about HER FEMINISM...we are all human and make mistakes however, what we choose to do with our power is telling of our innate character. Bill used his power in a manner that should have made Hillary slam the door. But of course that would not have been politically expedient. It is what it is.
I am totally for a woman in the Whitehouse...but not this woman and no way "that" man ... again.

Posted by: JEFH | April 30, 2008 8:49 AM

When Obama joined his Church he had to sign tucc theology so Obama knew what this minster was saying all along now he throws him under the bus ,like he did to his white gramma Also when he was an Il Senator he voted 3 times to lift the 5% gas tax now McCain &Hillary are trying to give the people a break on gas prices he again forgets what he wanted to do before he came to Washington. He is a hypocrite

Posted by: maggie | April 30, 2008 9:33 AM

Now is not the time for the Media and others to delve into the Black Church. If they do, don't attach it to Barack Obama. Many say, Rev. Wright DOES not represent the Black church some say he does. He is a distraction from Obama's campaign and we need to separate the two.

Posted by: M. Cheek | April 30, 2008 10:22 AM

I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but to me this puts some flesh and blood on Obama for me. So while I like Hillary better, I won't abscond on Obama should he become the nominee in the summer.

Posted by: DCDave | April 30, 2008 10:57 AM

Obama is the combination of Rev Wright and Rezko. This rookie is DISHONEST and DISGRACE. He can say anything to get elected, but please don't be fooled by salesman. If he is the nominee, the republicans will eat him alive. We, as the Democrats, deserve better!

Posted by: greg | April 30, 2008 11:17 AM

A man died today on a crane trying to build America, he is what's important.

Posted by: Cheryl L | April 30, 2008 12:04 PM

After Obama becomes President, he can write a new book - The Audacity of Hype

Posted by: EllenB4Hillary | April 30, 2008 12:12 PM

To: Hillary and Bill and Campaign

I am proud to see you rising above all the last week's outing of Obama by Reverend Wright.

I remember the PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF THE 1990'S!!!!

Thank you for staying strong when CNN, MSNBC and others have so obviously slanted everything for Obama. I have to go to Washington Post to get a balance of what is happening. Thank you Washington Post.

OBAMA PLEASE LEAVE AND LET THE US GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF BEATING THE REPUBLICANS IN THE FALL.

You have done so much damage toward all the progress Blacks have gained the last twenty years!

When I hear that Bush has more credibility than you do, I shudder!!!


Posted by: Grandma Dee | April 30, 2008 12:17 PM

Clinton supporters have been onslaughted with accusations, cruel names, resentment and negativity from either Obama supporters or the campaign itself and Obama just stands back and acts holier than thou. I also have noticed strong negative language from Obama supporters disrespecting older people in general. That has cemented many into refusing to vote for Obama for any reason. I fail to understand how Obama supporters can vote for a person who has only had one year of experience as a senator before hop-scotching his way into running for president. His policy ideas are not that good so I have to ask my self why do they support him. It all falls back to voting for someone based on the fact he is half black. You can not vote for a person based only on the color of their skin! Nothing against him being half black. It really doesn't matter to me, but there has to be a better reason to vote for him for president! Other than that, Clinton and Obama are pretty similar. Not different enough to generate the hate comments from Obama supporters. The meaner they get the more I dislike Obama. He is tearing apart the Democratic party by race and age. His supporters think his new way is to throw out the old people in the party.

Posted by: Debra | April 30, 2008 12:32 PM

When Obama looses GE, he can start a commune with his Twinkies. The Twinkies can gawk at him and continue their ridiculous post while pretending to what is going on.

Posted by: A good Thang | April 30, 2008 1:34 PM

a few thoughts on the above:
1. when obama joined the Rev's church, it was to advance his political career in chicago- - that has been clearly admitted, and now, moving on to a bigger job (the prez), that calculation has now come to bite him in the rearend big time...
2. how many black voters will move away from obama because he has broken with Wright? in INdiana, blacks are 9 percent of the population, in NC blacks are 20 percent of the state population,,, assume that 1 in 4, or 1 in 5, blacks now move AWAY from obama because of his break with wright,,, in Indiana, that would likely not have much effect- - but in NC it could have a much bigger negative effect on obama voting pull...remember that in TENN, 18 perecent of voters are black, and TENN went for HRC....NC is only slightly higher black percent of state residents,,,and if 1 in 4, or 1 in 5, black voters now defect from obama, that could be a loss of 5 percent statewide...in a tight race, 5 percent could be very bad for obama....
3. final prediciton: HRC will win Indiana about 56/44,, while obama will win NC by a very tight 51/49., in large part because a good chunk of black voters will now defect from him.....mccain/rice08!

Posted by: dave | April 30, 2008 1:55 PM

a simple question: even obama last night made reference to the ""black church..." why is "black church" not a racist concept but a "white church" is racist? to my simple mind, a church that is white or black or green or blue is still race-based, which is by definition racist....
just to get the brain juices flowing today....

Posted by: dave | April 30, 2008 2:00 PM

no need for Hillary to throw poor Bill under the bus. he is buried with poor Jimmy Hoffa under the last freeway exist in detroit...Ever notice the Bill on the campaign trail has a scar on his left ear lobe? and a mole on his chin? and the President Bill did not? the Bill on the campaign trail is not the genuine Bill Clinton....

Posted by: tim | April 30, 2008 2:03 PM

How do we know that Rev Wright just wasn't being altruistic and jumped under the buss on his own. Obama couldn't let him go even though he needed to. Maybe Rev Wright sought to create a situation in which it would make it easy for Obama to disavow him. Rev Wright was like a father to Obama. Wouldn't you throw yourself under a buss for your children? The only way to tell for sure is if he continues with his media blitz.

Posted by: Debra | April 30, 2008 2:14 PM

Don't expect black voters to defect from Obama. I just don't see that happening. I do however see Rev Wrights parisioners finding a different church to go to after last weekend. I think Rev Wright may have saved Obama but will not find the people that go to his church so forgiving. They are looking at Obama like the great black hope.

Posted by: Debra | April 30, 2008 2:22 PM

Wright is obviously a loony; but I'm getting a little tired of all of it. Obama stayed in the church for 20 years, so what? My mother has been a member of the same church for 50+ years and she often does not agree with the pastor but she stays because of the people she knows in the congregation. I couldn't even begin to tell you who Clinton or McCain's pastors are or what their views are. Everyone is having a really good time saying what Obama should have done; but how many of us have stood by while we've heard or seen something we knew wasn't right and failed to take action? How many times have McCain, Bush, and Clinton stood by when something that wasn't right went forward either with their blessing or simple silence? There are too many glass houses for any of us to be casting stones and this 'news' item is just distracting us from the real issues of the campaign.

Posted by: Anon-a-mouse | April 30, 2008 2:32 PM

Obama & Wright are going to drive the Dems right into the ditch this Fall.

It just doesn't get any better than this for Republicans in the Fall.

Bring in on!!!

Posted by: dylan | April 30, 2008 3:29 PM

"If universal strategies that target the challenges facing all Americans can go a long way toward closing the gap between blacks, Latinos, and whites, there are two aspects of race relations in America that require special attention--issues that fan the FLAMES OF RACIAL CONFLICT and UNDERMINE THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE."

Barack Obama
AUDACITY OF HOPE: 2006

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 4:06 PM

Be strong Senator Obama. God keeps His promises. Your light is shining brighter than ever!! Indeed, finally, I like others I know, am inspired even more to vote for you.

"...Kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago , I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth."

--Barack Obama
AUDACITY OF HOPE: 2006

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 4:08 PM

"...Kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago , I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth."

--Barack Obama
AUDACITY OF HOPE: 2006

Then kneeling before the election slipping through my finger tips I felt the hate of the Rev Wright calling me a liar. I submitted to my ego and through him under the bus.
-----Barack Obama
Audacity of Hype 2008

Posted by: AUDACITY INDEED | April 30, 2008 4:54 PM

Question, how can Barack unite the country and he can't unite himself and his pastor?

Posted by: CRMcNeal | April 30, 2008 5:05 PM

Obama's supporters go to his concerts and swoon and faint. They pass through the shower of Super Glue and stick to him like flies on flypaper. No matter what Barack does, they swoon. He blows his nose, they swoon. He hangs out with an anti-American racist, they swoon. He hangs out with corrupt political fixers, they swoon. He hangs out with domestic terrorists, they swoon. Ohhhh, Barracckkkk, Weeee Looooovvve Yoouuu Nooo Mattterrr Whattttt Youuuuu Dooooo!!!!! Commmeee saaaavvvvveeee usssss!!!!!

Posted by: Sick!!!!!!! | April 30, 2008 5:12 PM

I took the time to listen to Reverend Wright's controversial sermons in full. I found that he had things to say that were thought provoking and I agreed with some of what he had to say and was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on others. But, his behavior and performance during the question period at the press club was offensive. He was sarcastic and dismissive and very, very un-Jesus like. He was trying to sabotage the first really likely AA president. How can you say that you want to advance the black situation in America and do that. Obama stood by him when others would not have, but Wright betrayed him to the world. How could Obama stand by him when Wright was advocating everything Obama stands for AND implying that Obama really agreed with him. Wright forced the issue when he didn't have to. His ego was out in force. This was not about Jesus for Reverend Wright. This was about Reverend Wright. Obama did what he had to do.

Posted by: karela | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM

Its one of two things Oboma was playing both sides of the fence and it blew up in his face or

He has a VERY poor sense of judgment and did not see the hatred in Rev. Jeremiah Wright heart and the negative messages he is sending to his church .

How can he run a county and not be able to read people? Is he kidding?

What I think happened is Mr Obama knew all along who he was but needed the connection with the church and the black community for votes
And Rev Wright is using fear negative tactics to make Blacks thing that someone is holding them back . This gives him power but the realties is they both Obama and Wright are millionaires I guess they figured for themselves how not to be held back. ?

Posted by: Brooklyn | April 30, 2008 11:02 PM

It's time for me to face up to the fact that I made a mistake supporting Obama. I got so swept up with all the new politics, unity rhetoric and really thought this guy was different. The last 8 years of frustration made me vulnerable, I guess. He is just another politician who will say anything to get elected. Now that the shine is gone, I notice that he is arrogant and has absolutely no experience to boot. :-(

Posted by: Tina | April 30, 2008 11:25 PM

Wow! - what a great interview on CNN with Michelle Obama and Caroline Kennedy by Suzane Malvoux. Cambell Brown was anchoring and then came Ariana Huffington to round out the hour talking about Obama's progress focus and strength in getting past media manufactured distractions.
They were all glowing or radiating or something.
It was a very powerful feminine and all American political moment. Talk about class.


PS.
Rev J Wright, the media and the people were played big time by the silly and irresponsible dou of Hannity and Rush on this non story. Religion and politics should not be and is not mixed like this in a presidential campaign. Its really wrong.
Charlie Rangel had it right.

It was and is a political attack on protestant faith, led by Joe McCarthy's heirs, Hannity and Rush.
Bill O Riely is also a bit guilty, but he gets a pass, for basically being 'a stand up guy' who can listen to reason.

But as Catholics, we really have to tread damm carefully, here. Already, we are being played and tagged as dummies and bigots, pawns and victims. That Rudy was so easily dismissed, sends the message.
Let us not be out.

The media in general and ABC in particular should have know better than follow the lead of the chief resentment profiteers. These guys, Hannity and Rush, know they are about to be equal timed. So, they have gone butt crazy on Obama, who they apparently fear and resent.
This whole episode should have been avoided by the responsible press.
J Wright needs to sit tight.

Posted by: empireport | May 1, 2008 12:34 AM

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