Georgetown vs. Maryland?

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Let's just quote the headline from the lead story on the Old Spice Classic's Web site:
G-TOWN, MD, MICHIGAN STATE HEADLINE '08 DREAM FIELD
Hmmm. G-TOWN and MD in the same field. But that means....
Wash Times blogger: "OK, there's no deal in place to get Maryland and Georgetown to play during the regular season for the second time in nearly three decades. But it could happen in the Old Spice Classic in November."
Balt Sun blogger: "Just from a standpoint of a good local story, I would love to see Maryland play Georgetown, something that hasn't happened during the regular season since 1994."
Wash Post blogger: Do you know how many jokes I'm going to receive from Atlantic 11 poll voters next year linking Old Spice with Gary Williams's perspiration? And the last time these teams played, wasn't it in Anaheim. And now on to Orlando? What's next, an Animatronic meeting inside Epcot's Spaceship Earth?
Seriously, we'd all appreciate it very much, Old Spice people, if you could make this matchup happen. We promise that we'll all fly down to Orlando for this game. Or at least watch it intently on television. All you have to do is provide NASA-quality geo-political maps proving that Orlando is exactly the same number of furlongs from both College Park and M Street, and no one should have a problem. Thanks.
Hoya fan: "Watch us somehow not get to play the Twerps because of how the brackets shake out and they say we're ducking them...."
Maryland fan: "I would love to beat Georgetown badly. Hopefully we get a shot at them."
Hoya fan: "Looks like a great field (UMCP excepted)."
By Dan Steinberg |
April 29, 2008; 4:15 PM ET
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Posted by: Barno | April 29, 2008 4:32 PM
To add to Barno's point, Maryland was also given half of the gate in the '93 game. Despite being played on Georgetown's home floor, it was by no means a home game for Georgetown.
Besides, if Gary's request was merely that the next game be played at Comcast, I'm sure the deal could get done. Gary is insisting that any deal be a 3 year deal, with two of the games at Comcast. He figures that Georgetown owes him one, which is laughable.
Of course, the development of this non-rivalry has changed a bit in the last couple of years. Maryland would need this game a whole lot more than Georgetown does.
Posted by: Bill Barker | April 29, 2008 4:43 PM
it gets down to conferences big east has way more depth and also when was the last time the terps were in the AP top 10? its a no brainer gtown romps in a head to head matchup!!!!
Posted by: | April 29, 2008 4:46 PM
Wait...is that Terp bashing? On the Sports Bog? Gee...there's something new.
All the local head coaches with national championship trophies, please raise your hand. Oh, sorry JT3.
Posted by: Dan | April 29, 2008 4:49 PM
I get the feeling Gary isn't hugely involved in the details of negotiating the games. Sure, he probably gets a "yes" or "no", but he is busy doing things like, ya know, coaching. Debbie Yow and her staff are there for the detail work.
Posted by: EricS | April 29, 2008 4:57 PM
If you don't think that a head coach at a major university has total control over a schedule, you are quite mistaken.
Posted by: Just sayin' | April 29, 2008 5:02 PM
Would love to see Gtown play Maryland in the regular season. I think Gary needs to stop whining about the game he's "owed", but I'd also be happy if GU's athletic dept showed some class and gave him the game.
I'd love a yearly GU/GW showdown at Verizon too. Sure, the Hoyas would essentially be giving up a home game (it'd be a home game on paper but not in reality). Great way to promote local ball though, and nice preparation for the tournament (high major vs. midmajor on a de facto neutral court).
Whatever the reasons, Georgetown has been severely lacking in local rivalries recently. Playing American this year was a good start, but we need to do more of that, either by joining the BB&T clasic or setting up some home-and-home series.
Posted by: Anna | April 29, 2008 5:04 PM
Oh wait, so back to back Final Fours aren't so easy?
Sincerely,
Terp Fans
Posted by: Broken Clipboards | April 29, 2008 5:05 PM
It does not take a degree from Georgetown to know that a game played on a court where you play all your home games is a home game for you...
Posted by: Broken Clipboards | April 29, 2008 5:16 PM
I'd like to see George Mason, Georgetown, Maryland, and either American or GW in the BB&T Classic every year. (Dream on.)
Posted by: Mason Pattrick | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM
I don't think Gary Williams is the one holding up this game from happening. If anything I think he'd be screaming for it because right now Gtown gets every single local recruit with talent.
I also don't think Gary Williams is the guy the does scheduling for the Terps. In fact I don't even think he gets a yes or no as someone else on this thread seems to think.
If anything I think that both schools are wary of taking on nonconference foes b/c the Big East and the ACC are both so stacked that both Athletic Departments prefer cupcakes...
This will only happen if the coaches publicly call each other out.
Posted by: Jeff V | April 29, 2008 6:30 PM
While I am an avowed Terp fan I don't really want to see this game happen because I think at least this coming year Gtown would stomp on us and it wouldn't be pretty much like the UCLA-MD game this past year.
Still, Gtown hasn't had the same type of recent (past 10 years) success that MD has had. Quit attacking Gary, like other posters have said, we have back to back final fours and a national championship. Thats gotta count for something
Posted by: JDP | April 29, 2008 9:50 PM
How AMAZING would it be.... I KNOW .. I KNOW .... this is fantasy....but ...
If Junior Fienstein and his Bank Cronnies could get some kind of area tourney together...
Maryland
G'Town
Geo Wash
UVA
VaTech
Howard
American
George Mason
(you could sub VaTech with James Madison or ODU or whomever)
I know the politics will NEVER let that happen...but ...how much fun would that be !!!????!!!??
Posted by: cej75024 | April 29, 2008 10:39 PM
Even if the local tourney was all "lower tier" teams...how about an 8 team tourney of
Geo Wash
James Madison
Howard
Old Dominion
American
Towson St
George Mason
UMBC
i don't know...insert local schools here_______________________.
TONS OF FUN !!!!
Posted by: cej75024 | April 29, 2008 10:43 PM
The BB&T has lost a whole lot of luster. It's not even a tourny anymore. Just a two game borefest. Let's get MD, GU, GW, GMU in, and play till a winner is decided. In the meantime, I'll take the Old Spice... And a GU loss.
Posted by: plawcas | April 30, 2008 8:55 AM
if i remember correctly, the big prob was fan behavior. i don't think this has po 2b better, but seriously worse. I'm a Terp fan and realize win or lose could get rowdy. its a shame the selection process has cut down on matchups, but thats the deal. here's hopeing they meet in the tourney.......NCAA
Posted by: devans | April 30, 2008 10:13 AM
Big John and his Hoyas duck Terps for a decade. Then after Gary and Terps Agree to all G-Town conditions ....???? . Gary has got plenty of issues but he is not responsible for this one..UMD should get the Hoyas @ home. I Like Big John , but this was a product of his schedueling practice for decades (soft before b-east and no exposure for other local teams..
Posted by: BigWalt42 | April 30, 2008 11:26 AM
D1 coaches make their schedules. That's a fact. They have ultimate control. To suggest that Gary doesn't have control over his schedule is laughable.
I've been in the room to hear JTIII say that Gary wants two games for one at Verizon, and he credits that as the reason for there not being a game. I have not heard Gary's reason, which could very well be different.
I can see how a game at Cap Center is seen as a Gtown home game, but how much of a home game was it if tickets and revenues were split 50-50 (as I understand they were)? Doesn't the split crowd and gate revenues make that a neutral court game, or do physical building and surface make it a Gtown home game? I have a pretty hard time buying that, but I fully admit that I was not there and don't know all the facts.
Posted by: NickSixers | April 30, 2008 2:29 PM
I think a 1 & 1 - with the first at Maryland. Would be fair.
Did Cleveland have home court advantage last year at Verizon when all the Wizards were injured in the playoffs?
Posted by: Broken Clipboards | April 30, 2008 4:29 PM
Hey Dan: All head coaches who have done anything in the last six years raise their hands: Not so fast Gary. Can you prell underachieve?
Posted by: reality check | May 1, 2008 2:16 PM
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I was there in November of '93 at the Cap Centre, the last time these 2 teams met in the D.C area. I was a Gtown fan at the time (before I attended UMD). That game was the beginning of an era for the Terps...Joe Smith's first game.
It was also George Butler's first game for the Hoyas, too bad the Gmen didn't have him for 4 years. That guy was a stud.
I would love to see this game happen every year, but it won't. Gary is too stubborn about having the next one be at Comcast Center because the previous one was at the ole Cap Centre. On the surface, it seems like a legitimate point. But if you were at that game back in 93, you'd have seen that at least 75% of the fans there were Md fans. It wasn't a home court advantage for Gtown by any stretch of the imagination.
Come on Gary, you know this is true.