So what if Sen. Obama is less experienced...give it a break...why on earth do you think President's have talented, experienced advisors--to ADVISE them!!! LOL Hillary would do better??? Please...she'll be too busy keeping an eye on old Bill..and McCain? Oh but of course,let's vote him in so we can end up having Iraq become another Viet Nam (if it hasn't already).

I meant to say he will be ready in 4 years and would have learned then, what he should have known by now.

Out of the three, Hillary IS the best candidate for the job, why are we voting for Obama when he and Hillary believe in almost the same thing, we do not have time for him to get experience(on the job training) I think he would be ready and have learned everything he should know now to be President.I will have to vote for Mccain if Hillary is not there,I don't want other countries to see us as weak, and that we hate our own counrty.Obama said we should bring our troops home,and send them to Darfur,HOW IS THIS BRINGING OUR TROOPS HOME!We need to do what Hillary said ,TAKE CARE of ourselves first.We need to take care of our hunger,homeless people,and help those that want to go to school.WHY if you are a student going fulltime you cannot apply for food stamps, don't you think our kids need to eat.Why do we have to beg for money for school Give people money if they go to school so they can pay rent,and eat.Obama is more worried about other countries than ours,while understandable because his roots are not here and that goes for anyone, he shouldnt be running for president because we THE AMERICAN PEOPLE are not his first priority.I want our tax dollars here.

The better candidate will most likely not be the nominee for the Democratic party. Until recently I was leaning toward Obama but after the denigration by the pundits, particularly those idiots on MSNBC toward Senator Clinton, I will cast my vote in November for Senator McCain.

4 years of McCain is better than having an inexperienced 1 term senator as President. We have already seen what that this has brought this country in 8 years of the biggest idiot this country has ever 'selected' as president.

After 4 years I may have forgotten, as easily as Obama seems to have forgotten his good pastor's anti-American rhetoric as well as his (Obama's) friendly association with a known terrorist.

Maybe by then Michele Obama will have something more to be thankful for than just her husband running for president and both will know a little better what a great deal of this country has suffered through when they aren't a member of the elitist group.

Obama can't win most of the states that will give him the Democratic nomination and if McCain doesn't make any major gaffs and picks someone that has a better handle on economics than he has we will be looking at another 4 years of a Republican presidency.

Considering the shortcomings of Obama this may not be the worst thing that can happen.

mccain is going to win, his only threat is hillary and by voting for obama now she will be out.many of us are using this strategy but when election time comes its for mccain.do you really think he can get that many votes on his own, no way.

History can teach us much about some of the current opinions about the electability of Senator Obama. Many, including experts, were convinced that JFK would not beat a seasoned candidate such as a sitting VP with the experience of R. Nixon. Conventional wisdom was that this country would not elect a Catholic president and a man with less experience. Many thought that the associates of JFK were not patriotic enough. The election of 1960 showed these people to be in error. JFK won the election and was a breath of fresh air that led us to ask what we could do for our country and travel to the Moon. I believe that Obama will be not only elected but he is the best chance of healing some very deep-seated wounds that stretch back to the founding of our country and the enslavement of a whole race of people. If we as a nation can elect a person of color we are on our way to reaching out and closing the race chasm which has affected our nation to it's very foundation. Think of how our ancestors of all races would judge us on our actions and not just our words. This country faces some extremely dangerous problems in the world and think of what it will mean to the billions on the planet who look to us as a nation who does it's best to give equal opportunity to all.
Think of MK. King's dream, Lincolns hope, Jefferson's intellect, T. Roosevelt's energy, FDR's compassion, Eisenhour's leadership, and Washington's integrity. Then ask yourself could not Obama be remembered as a President who will lead us through hard times and help us make our country safe, and compassionate, rich and generous, strong and respected in the world for our ways of peace and understanding. Wake up you masses, the future can be bright if we have to courage to choose a different course. Obama can and will be a great President.

Hillary is the best HOPE for this country she is the smartest and the strongest . For the people that have switched to Obama I have one word BACKBONE. When you truley stand for something you see it to the end. When the cost are so high you do not quit.Would we want to elect someone that when things get hard they just quit ? GO HILLARY

I find it amusing that the "Democractic Party" is not willing to see a "Democractic Process" to the end. By this I mean that the competition between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama needs to be resolved by "The People", not by comments or suggestions from the media, defectors or nay-sayers.

Does anyone ever think about baseball games where fans support their individual teams no matter the circumstance? Do baseball players quit as soon as one team starts to lead with a wide margin, or do they keep playing in the hopes that they have a "Come-back"? Are we intelligent Americans or citizens of a communist country? Shouldn't we let the Democractic Process do it's job?

Also, not all Africans/African-Americans support Senator Obama - if this were true then we would be voting because of race, not intelligence.

Thanks You!!!

What a good stradagist Hillary is. She has given hope to the Obahma campaign, and kept her best for last. (Just like Bill did In 1992.) History does in fact stutter. Barak is going to be an afterthought, and Al Gore will be seated as Clinton's VP. Mark my words. Put yourself in McCain's shoes. He thinks that he must prepare against Obahma. He won't know what hit him when Hillary slaps him silly. I love politics. Obahma is the greatest distraction to the Democratic party since Marlon Monroe, or perhaps Monica Lewinsky.

im sorry hilary clinton but i do not think you should be president just for the fact that you are a girl and i dont think that girls should run a country. it is not that i dont like you its just that girls shouldnt be president i think it is a guyz thing so you should just drop out of the campaign....

Hilary needs to give up. She ain't gonna win. She's only going to prolong an inevitable defeat. Next time Hilary.

Here is a solution to the Florida and Michigan issue that I'm surprised no one has mentioned.

Agree to seat all the Florida and Michigan delegates just as they were elected. But with the following provision.

Take away the voting privileges of all the super delegates. Not just the supers from Florida and Michigan, but all the superdelagates.

Since you'd be changing the rules to seat Florida and Michigan in order to make the process democratic you'd have to go all the way and make the convention totally democratic and eliminate the role of the supers.

Undecided supers would be pleased to be let off the hook.

Clinton supporters would be against such a plan but then they'd be the ones to deny Florida and Michigan being seated. And being against the plan would be awkward for Clinton to defend since the only rational for resisting such a plan would be that it would cause her to lose!!

Propose it to the rules committee it a no brainer!!!!

How can anyone say the important thing is just winning in November? This is about picking the leader of a nation at war, in the midst of a financial disaster, an immigration crisis, a worldwide food crisis, an energy crisis, a jobs crisis, and a worldwide military build -up!! The character and leadership of the candidate IS THE POINT !!!

Come on people. We've done the rerun thing (Bush 1 & then Bush 2). Like dinner, it's not nearly as good the 2nd time around. One Bush was enough, and so is one Clinton. I, for one, will be glad to see both families off the national stage - and I suspect this is more than a little of Obama's appeal right now. She won't win now, and unless McCain proves to be an even bigger loser than Bush2, she won't win in '12.

The race is over. Obama won. The Clinton people need to accept this. Taking it to the convention will merely split the party, hand the election to McCain, and guarantee that Hillary won't get another shot.

Now Harvey Weinstein is threatening Pelosi unless she allows him to personally finance revotes in MI and FL?

Since when can private--and biased--citizens unilaterally interfere in national elections?

This is all wrong.

The people have spoken. Respect their wishes.

I can't wait to tell BILLARY Clinton bye, bye SOON. I'm ELATED!!

My comment is to "New Republican"

WAY TO GO! I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU!

And I know a HUGE, did I mention HUGE,
amount of Hillary Clinton supporters
who will change their party affiliation,
too.

Obama and his GANG may have BOUGHT the
nomination but there isn't enough money
in the world to BUY the general election.

Clinton or Mccain 08

The intelligent half of America says....
NO WAY to Barack "PRECIOUS" Obama

Go Hillary, Bill needs some more white house interns to cavort with!

Hillary and Bill Clinton have assets of over 100 mil, their charitable contributions have gone mainly to Bill's Presidential library where they sit untouched and undistributed. She lends herself 6 million and then asks her supporters for contributions, contributions with which she will repay herself. If Mrs. Clinton was so sure she could knock Obama off his perch if she stayed in to the bitter end, she can sure as hell "give" her campaign 6 million. Why should those of us who supported the DNC or Obama have to pay her bills?

Dear Anonymous

You clearly seem incapable of disecting prose to distinguish between supportive reference and the point actually being made.

Just for your information, I feel no need to "GET OVER" Ms. Clinton, as you suggest, due primarily to the fact that I have no stake in your electoral process, nor would I have voted for her or Mr. Obama if I had a stake. Just to save you from unnecessarily expending energy and time on further retort, no, I wouldn't have voted for McCain or any other Republican figure head either.

If I were to concede that charismatic orators throughout history have been both benevolent and malevolent, this still would not vitiate my position with regard to my previous allusion to Adolf Hitler's speaking ability and the evils that he later perpetrated. THE POINTS being made were that no one knows who Mr. Obama really is, that greatness and virtue are revealed through the observant passage of time, not self proclamation, and this near orgasmic, messianic tone which seems to permeate every characterization of Mr. Obama is what is actually "MISALIGNED", your word not mine.

Thank you for the clarification regarding every political ploy and falsehood Ms. Clinton is suspected of making. I agree with you on these points, but I should also add that I have not heard Ms. Clinton compare herself, in sound bite or photo op, to the likes of Dr. King, JFK, etc.

Finally, I would ask you, in times of self interested reflection, to ponder the following: what is potentially dangerous about Mr. Obama's candidacy is the willingness to offer him worship and devotion not deserving of any human being. Do you really believe that he championed the fight for overturning the NAFTA on the campaign trail without any back door communication to Canadian diplomats, meant to reassure them that he had no intention of pursing such a perilous, internationally significant economic incident?

End the War
Stop the trillions in borrowed War FUNDS

Judge Stevens is Older than McCain if you can imagine and if MCCAIN picks a Roberts
CLONE

SAY GOODBYE to ROE vs WADE

GO Rush supports against blood for Oil.

Vote OBama

ITs Row Vs Wade stupid

Good for you Rush

WE knew you for womens rights

Go OBAMA

Closing time. Better head home "Polly Pantsuits".

Obamaites have mocked Senator Clinton way to vitriolic for me to support Obama. If he told them to shut up and sit down maybe but he hasn't so its too late. Many feel the same. Now Obama did tell his pastor of 20 years to shut up and sit down. No loyalty on Obama's part. You don't abandon someone so quickly without it being a character issue. Don't you think?

Well it's not really up to any of us, or those in the media to say whether she ought to terminate her campaign early. That's ultimately for the delegates to decide. I can't speak for others here, but I'm generally not the kind of person who gives up just because the prospects looks bleak, and I cannot fault Mrs. Clinton for holding the same outlook. And you cannot deny that this is statistically a very close race, and the popular vote is even closer. Although there is truth in the claim that Mrs. Clinton would not have been as sympathetic to the Florida-Michigan vote if the situation were the other way around, it does not really matter as the argument has to be considered on its own terms (what logicians call a circumstantial ad hominem). People who have the type of personality to run for office are usually not quitters, and they hate to loose. Why is everyone surprised about her doggedness. Also Hillary isn't hurting the Democrats in the General Election, as has been suggested. In the long run it is better that Obama's potential negatives are exposed now, and soon forgotten, then brought up at the threshold of the general election. Just my thoughts. Best,

Well it's not really up to any of us, or those in the media to say weather she ought to terminate her campaign early. That's ultimately for the delegates to decide. I can't speak for other here, but I'm generally not the kind of person who gives up just because the prospects looks bleak, and I cannot fault Mrs. Clinton for the holding the same outlook. And you cannot deny that this is statistically a very close race, and the popular vote is even closer. Although there is truth in the claim that Mrs. Clinton would not have been as sympathetic to the Florida-Michigan vote if the situation were the other way around, it does really matter as the argument has to be considered on its own terms (what logicians call a circumstantial ad hominem). People who have the type of personality to run for office are usually not quilters, and they hate to loose. Why is everyone surprised about her doggedness. Also Hillary isn't hurting the Democrats in the General Election, as has been suggested. In the long run it is better that Obama's potential negatives are exposed now, and soon forgotten, then brought up at the threshold of the general election. Just my thoughts. Best,

I know Hilary would not have been so concern about the votes from Florida and Michigan if the table were turned around on Bamako. She is just using that claim to count the votes after the party rules were violated. She just wants the votes, and it has nothing to do with touchy feelings for the voters.
So why not just say so, why does everything in this freaking world has to be an act. When everyone knows the motives. It is unfortunate that their votes aren't going to be counted, but what is most unfortunate is that they didn't follow the rules. It is a matter of principal to follow the rules as they were laid down. After all what are rules for any way.

She knows better, and so do the Democrats. So grow up. Democrats are sounding like babies, and mean while the party is being split. The republicans are laughing at you idiots (ex: Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh). Playing you guys like puppets. And not only will you lose some party members, but the Independent and Republican cross party voters are in jeopardy of discontent.
And I don't mean those Voting for Clinton, although there are some, a great amount are in cahoots with the republican tactic to set out by Rush Limbaugh. Think About not even with these votes (votes that will be casted 100% for McCain) is she winning. If you really are about the troops, and the countries future. Then it is in the best interest to bring the party back together with time enough to let the wounds heal. Remember if this continues to escalate, don't dismiss the possibility of the draft.

Yes, Senator Clinton should move quickly to officially end her candidacy, It was effectively ended by the voters of Indiana and North Carolina.

To continue to grasp at straws is so very unbecoming.

Further, this grasping hints at a selfishness that ought not be in the White House in any case.

I just finished watching HAIRSPRAY, the movie (2007). When I saw Velma Von Tussle, the mother of Amber, I finally understood why Hillary won't give up. Somehow, Senator Clinton missed the point of the 1960s: economic growth and progress often comes with turning the ruling class upside-down, a defeat of the status-quo. Reagan-Bush, Bush-Quayle, Clinton-Gore, Bush-Cheney... it's all the same good ole boys. Obama is new. Guess who's coming to dinner.

I just finished watching HAIRSPRAY, the movie (2007). When I saw Velma Von Tussle, the mother of Amber, I finally understood why Hillary won't give up. Somehow, Senator Clinton missed the point of the 1960s: economic growth and progress often comes with turning the ruling class upside-down, a defeat of the status-quo. Reagan-Bush, Bush-Quayle, Clinton-Gore, Bush-Cheney... it's all the same good ole boys. Obama is new. Guess who's coming to dinner.

Drop Out CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please be gentle on Hillary. It's pretty hard to accept the end of a cherished dream. It may take a few days or even weeks, but she will have come to terms with it. It's really over.

I for one am glad she is staying in. None of this matters until run up to general.

Mrs Clinton has manipulated melodrama to lie to us. She uses Hollywood images and now presents the nation a fantasy of herself as a boxer beating her opponent senseless, while we know that she would not last in a ring with somone like, say, Senator Obama, should they really duke it out and IF he would deck an older white woman like his mother. She is counting on the American people to buy her fantasy like her fantasy of sniper fire in Bosnia AND on Obama to stay the gentleman while she parades in fake male genitalia. Obama, in contrast, actually plays basketball and plays it well. Compare the two sports and ask which is a better predictor for a successful president--a boxer whose sole aim is to beat an opponent sensesless before she is beaten senseless? Or a basketball player whose leadership is made up of nimbleness, teamwork, and skills and who must go the length of the game? Hooray for NC AND for Indiana for refusing the ruthless politics of divide and rule, smear and tear-down. The party leaders MUST finally show courage and good sense and STOP Hillary from spoiling the party's chances to sweep the WH, the Senate,the House AND the new generation of voters this November. They MUST turn the page for the nation.

ProPsych

You and I aren't having a disagreement. Someone posted a question regarding statistics another poster cited. I provided the info. Stop making this about you. The topic of conversation is about HRC and BHO - not you. Get over yourself.

We wondered why. During twenty debates Hillary smugly refused to answer hypothetical questions about security sensitive foreign policy issues in the middle east. But, in the last debate she suddenly jumped at the chance to tell the world her secret plan in the extremely hypothetical event that Israel (a country that has an A bomb) is attacked by Iran (a country that does not have an A bomb) and her answer was - nuke Iran. And now we know why.HRC's campaign is in debt for millions and millions of dollars! She needed to impress some rich Jews that are fixated on the security of the state of israel so that they would bail out her campaign. And this souless sick chick is prancing around telling people she is the experienced, best candidate. Let's pray she gives it up before she does this country any more harm.

Factchecker2 - please feel free not to read anything I write. Some of us on these blogs enjoy reading well-informed opinions, because maybe there's something to be learned. Other people just get off on saying what they believe and insulting people who don't agree with them. You do it your way, I'll do it mine.

Could we please just call a moratorium on declaring what we will do in November if our favorite candidate is not nominated? There's no need to decide that now. We've got plenty of time.

If you are the plan-ahead type and wish to get started thinking about what your options might be, studying up on McCain seems like a good first step. I think that is what Anne S. has suggested here, although I lost track of a pronoun reference and can't be sure.

Oh my god!! Obama win in North Caroline!! this is great news!!! hahahahahaha
this isn't great news... this is normally, when the black people vote only for Obama (91%), this isn't great Win, it's normal help for black man.

Obama had to win in Indiana and has not done so.
That was the real demonstration of voting in general.
Not that wins in a state where there is a vast majority of black people (and this isn't race problem is one reality)

Obama has more possibility for lose the Presidency... He isn't perfect and clear, he is one "typical politician", any more!!

Hillary is strong !!I agree her decision...
Go Hillary !!!

If the 270 'undecided SuperDelegates' would get off the fence and into the game, they could end the Hillary spectacle THIS WEEK, and the Democrats could then focus on the Main Event, beating Grandpa.

'Super' - what are they waiting for, the best offer in the next administration ? Everyone knows it will be Obama, just finish it. Hillary and Bill will be pissed for a few months, then life goes on. Grow up.

Did I hear the news correctly this morning? They were recommending Hillary bow out if Obama pays off her debt. If that is true what a slap in the face! On the other hand, I can see her keep fighting to the end. In fact, with her reversing her position on Florida and Michigan counting, I can see her next going after the caucus states and that they shouldn't count. Whatever for a win!

After reading all of the comments by those so-called Dems who refuse to vote for Obama if he gets the nomination, I had an epiphany. Previously I had thought the same thing about Hillary Clinton; that I would rather not vote at all (I would never vote Republican unless Jesus was one and was running for president)than vote if she gets the nomination. Well, after seeing how ignorant, childish, and spiteful those folks sound, I realized that I was being just like them. Therefore, I repent. I will vote Democratic no matter who the (gulp) nominee is, even if it means having Bill Clinton (gulp) back in the WH.

to refuse to support the candidate that played by the rules and wins fair and square is just wrong...and deep down inside, you know it.

"It makes you into the bad guy and then nobody will want to go quail hunting or barrel racing or steer branding with you and you'll be a sad little puppy."

Too funny, point taken.

Anyone get the idea this is going to be one of those. A vote for **blank** is going to be a vote for **blank** scenarios. She is not going to shake loose and a contested/brokered convention looks to be on the horizon.

Personally, I don't think this is helping McCain at all. He seems to be doing just as bad with his party.

FactChecker2,

Please don't be a bully. This reminds me of when Jenna and Barb were little and you just couldn't stop them from beating up all the other little girls at the La Petite. They bit and scratched an screamed and pulled hair and no children would come to the house to play with them for years! If you're a mean little bully too it does nothing but alienate you from the rest of the world. It makes you into the bad guy and then nobody will want to go quail hunting or barrel racing or steer branding with you and you'll be a sad little puppy.

If one was to judge Barack Obama on the company he keeps, what about Hillary?

Here is a brilliant, independent(?), rich, and savvy woman who is inextricably tied to a guy who has been accused by too many women of rape, unwanted sexual groping and sexual misconduct(that we know of!!)
She would have you believe that she "forgives him" and that's why she continues to be with him.

Am I the only one who does'nt buy this drivel??? I'd have more respect for her if she left the bozo and campaigned on her own merits. I would vote for and support her campaign enthusiastically .
Why should I trust the judgement of a woman who wants to be president who continues to condone this behavior by staying with him? Oh, yeah, unless of course she has absolutely no moral compass and needs him for her own personal gain.

How many women do you know who've had more self respect and left guys like this, plus struggled to keep their kids by supporting them on their own.

I fail to understand those women who "understand and feel sorry" for Hillary and vote for her because of it. She's still with the guy!!!

If Obama were married to a woman who displayed this kind of moral depravity, do ya' think it would be brought up by CNN, MSNBC, FOX,etc., every hour on the hour for the last month??? Duh!

Let's be clear DEMOCRATS CANNOT WIN without the black vote, period, even if they are only 12% of the population!

Democrats also lose if they don't pull some independents.
Posted by: Mia | May 7, 2008 4:16 PM

Well no, sugar, not exactly. According to Dick, anyone can win the election if they know the right people at Dieboldt. I think that was the name but I may be off a letter or two there. But also Dick says that if Ron Paul runs as an independant that nothing will get McCain in the office. Dick says that won't happen but it might.

ProPsych

No, I just don't think you are important or smart enough to be monopolizing threads.

And if I wanted to call you stupid I would. I know what the statistic read and so do you, don't play stupid like you're here to enlighten all of us. State your opinion and leave. You're like a turd who won't flush.

"I would love to see a women as president of the United States. Just not Hillary."

Posted by: Jeff | May 7, 2008 11:00 AM

Jeff, may I add you to my mailing list for my very own presidential bid in 2012? Of course, I'll need to gain a Senate seat before then but that shouldn't be too hard in Texas.

FactChecker2 - Let's see, someone says something you don't like and you basically call them stupid. So, you're unable to engage in debate without demeaning the person you're talking to - and you don't like Obama because he's divisive?

A few years ago,there was speculations over hillary considering white house bid in 2008.Her spokeswoman jumped in and made us believe she had no intention doing so.
Is hillary 08 not flip floping? Why cant she stay out of this race she never really planned to run?12 millions dollars?more important than the party she claims to stand for? or the american blue collars voters she tells anything to get their votes
white house nostalgy pushes her hunger of power borderless.No matter the outcome of this election,the lesson we all can learn is the clintons are not as blackfriendly as they used to cast themselves and that will be a great damage for them in the future

Like Hillary and her people, a huge chunk of the main stream media in America is also in denial that this is happening.

They have also been buried in their own world for too long, they missed out on the quiet revolution that has been taking place all over the world.

The world is changing whether one likes it or not, and only those who embrace and evolve along with the changes that are inevitable, will ultimately suceed.

This has been one of the main reasons why the Clinton people have failed to get the zist of the Obama movement. This also goes to those supers who have had problem backing Obama. They have all missed out on something and they don't know what it is. They are genuinly lost.

Let's be clear DEMOCRATS CANNOT WIN without the black vote, period, even if they are only 12% of the population!

Democrats also lose if they don't pull some independents.

ProPsych don't play stupid. I didn't say anything of the sort. Some other poster did and I'm posting the actual quote from AP. Google it for the full article.

The gist of the article is that people are voting with there feet on HRC's side.

Paint your statistics anyway you want, I think he is divisive and polarizing and I would rather see a women in office.

"So, someone flipping to the Republicans ...have been fooled by political operatives to not understanding the differences between Republicans and Democrats"

Exactly!

What is the significance of HRC's $11 million "loan"? How determined she is to be president? How convinced she is that she will successfully get someone else to pick up the tab later? How much $ she has made over the years so that $11 million is easily spent?

Either Hillary Clinton should drop out gracefully forthwith, or it will become painfully obvious that her strategy is practicing character assassination against Barack Obama, so that she can come back and win in 2012 after four disastrous years of McCain.

The American people deserve better. Close ranks and support Barack Obama.

It is official. This woman is pathologically delusional. She revealed conclusively by vowing to continue with this crazy situation that she lacks any rationale thought processing ability in her brain.

She obviously suffers from a medical condition of self-agrandizing and delusion that she was born to be a 'president'. As a result of this she will do anything, literally anything no matter how damaging the course, to get to her goal. The Democratic Party and the voters have given her just too much benefit of doubt and it is time now to pull the plug on this 'obsessed' woman's mis-adventure.

It's so funny that we're still debating whether Barack Obama is electable. This man has all the necessary tools for the job and people are focusing on nonsense. What I really believe is that a large number of individuals can't stomach the fact that a person of color is making a strong play for the office. These things that are being said about his electability are irrational fears being manifested.

Fact checker 2 - you may have the "facts" but you're not interpreting them right. You originally said that 2/3's of HRC voters would not vote for Obama. What the exit polls showed was that 2/3's of HRC voters were dissatisfied with Obama, but only about 1/3 of HRC voters would actually vote for McCain instead.

Apparently, it's not so unusual for people to say such things during exit polling. After all, they have just voted for the candidate who they hope will win. Research on the election process shows, however, that when push comes to shove, many if not most of them do end up voting for the candidate of their party in the general election, even if it was not the person they originally voted for. Thus, asking people about their opinion in the heat of the moment tends to skew the results. Furthermore, research also shows that you can predict very little about the general election from what people say or do during the primaries, so even if polls show that any of the candidates will win against any of the other candidates at this point in time, that data is pretty much meaningless in terms of what will actually happen by the time of the election.

The Clintons have "loaned" themselves another $6.4 million in addition to the $5 million they had already "loaned" themselves.

This means someone will have to give the Clintons $11-12 million to drop out of the race.

So where do I send my donation to get them to drop out of the race?

HRC supporters who would rather vote for McCain than Obama are not thinking about policy. Clearly, Obama and Clinton are closer to each other from a policy standpoint than they are to McCain. So, someone flipping to the Republicans either doesn't have strong policy ties to the Democrats, votes more on personality or other superficial reasons (e.g., race, gender, age), have been fooled by political operatives to not understanding the differences between Republicans and Democrats, or doesn't really understand why they vote one way or the other.

This has been an incredibly intriguing campaign year where, despite many things, I am sure the Obama camp would agree that Clinton's tenacity proved of some value. The rigor under which both candidates have performed is possibly sublimely democratic in a way that few of us have seen in a very long time. Even though the math does not add up, there is still a place for this type of essential debate ... though it will be curious to see how they fincancially support it. One reality is that Clinton came to this campaign with all the trappings of an incumbent: she had the 'brand name' recognition and the Clinton legacy. Like any other incumbent out there, barring that they have not committed some silly repulsive act the likes of which puts them out of the running, she became difficult to beat by a new unknown candidate. It is the rule of thumb that you would need pockets load of money, and in the old way of thinking - money would be hard to come by ... particularly when matched against the 'natural' capacities of the Clintons. But ironically, the very industry that was heavily supported by the Clinton administration is the one that opened the door for possibility. And through that door walked Barak Obama. The money he has therefore been able to raise appears to be what was needed - and, man - it is not chump change! Certainly, it cannot be understestimated the number of people who were able to get involved in the 'funding' process. Clinton's continued campaign has, I think, pushed Obama to campaign even deeper into demographics and geography. He has had the unique opportunity to really get the sense of the tapestry of the United States and appreciate, perhaps, the very real diversity. Rural in the south is not the same as rural in pennsylvannia - their needs are perhaps very different as their vision for their communities might also be ... yes, there are some basic things - schools, health/hospital, jobs, infrastructure ... but chances are, it LOOKS different. So while we want the purple, we also wish to be recognized for our individual uniqueness. And as he thinks through the stimulus economic package and proposals for forwarding job creation - he would definitely have a very robust 'map' that, in all probability, will say "one shoe can fit all." Which means that while a model or recommendation may work in one area, there would have to be large adaptions in another. The battles of the northern states have revealed a lot through the strenuous campaigns - most importantly, the needs of women should be taken seriously and framed within policy. I would be interested to see the SPIRIT in which the Clintons proceed in the next phase ... they have a lot of knowledge to share and I personally hope that their campaign takes on the tone of problem solving and sound trustworthy observations.

The Clintons could have used this experience as an opportunity to let Hillary set a new tone for them. The intelligent, ambitious wife who went on to become a senator, ran for president, did very well, and bowed out gracefully when it was clear she couldn't win. But instead we get the worst of Bill times 2 (bullets in Bosnia, definitions of "is" etc). Too bad for both of them.

No way that Obama will choose HRC to be his running mate, now that she squandered so much of his political capital. But the VP choice will be a more important one than Kerrey's or Bill Clinton's.

Northern Observer,
You write "I...worry about Mr. Obama's reliance on charismatic speeches, his ability to tell people exactly what they want to hear when they need to hear it. Other men in history were just as good at this form of communication, men like Napoleon and Hitler. No, I'm not comparing Mr. Obama to them. I am simply saying that prepared speeches and charisma do not a leader make..."

The U.S. should elect a leader who tells its people they were in "sniper fire" (false); they should enjoy a gas-tax holiday that purely ignorant; take positions on U.S. policy when their spouse talks covert deals with U.S. foes (e.g., Khakastan & Dubai) and, has done every thing in their power to turn U.S. race relations on its head? That's your suggestion?

Your worries over Obama's charismatic speeches are misaligned. His speeches have been on unity, not blame or hate as your comments inferred we should be worried about. You hadn't considered that speech could be lofty for the good of people. Churchill, Roosevelt, King, Kennedy...do you need me to go on?

Hillary...as the Post noted...is TOAST! Get over her.

FactChecker1 stick this in your pipe...AP exit polls N Carolina last night...

Nearly two-thirds of Clinton voters said they'd be dissatisfied with Obama, compared with 52 percent in 25 primaries where the question was asked previously. About six in 10 Obama voters said they would be dissatisfied with Clinton as the nominee, more than have said that in any state to date.

Just how dissatisfied? A third of Clinton backers claimed they would vote for Republican John McCain if he faces Obama in November. One in five Obama supporters said they would vote for McCain over Clinton.

I win

Hillary will not fix health care. She got burned the first time, and she's too savvy a politician to get hit again. Besides, the budget deficit will be bad enough that none of the 3 current candidates will be able to advance many major new initiatives. They'll be scrambling to reduce spending on existing programs.

Hillary is a champion for Americans and I certainly hope she sticks around to fight for fairness and that her health care plans
see the light of day.

Good health care is our share in the nations wealth.

Man's humanity to man, that which lifts us above the dog eat dog world of the animal kingdom, demand's that we care for each other as a human being, otherwise we sink back into a
world of apathy and uncaring about the welfare of others and our world becomes uglier and meaner and definitely less pleasant to live in.

Here, in Canada, I had occassion to make use of our welfare system and I am proud to say it was a very pleasant experience.

Lot's of rules and regulations of course, but, I was broke and they didn;t apply to me so the procedure was quite straight forward.

I assume it is the same in the states, a person looses their job and 'bingo,' everything is in jeopardy, the house, the car, the kids, not to mention the wife. Your life gets turned up side down

STAY THE COURSE, HILLARY! A poster said 2/3 of HRC supporters will jump ship in the GE? Do you make it a habit of pulling numbers out of your butt? Get real!

but these are the 3 that were chosen! there WERE others who would have been better choices but they didn't "scream" the loudest. no worries, they'll probably end up cabinet members. but you know what you will get with Hill and McCain and that's just more of the same. Obama is mostly feared because he really could beat McCain, they know she cannot. now I'm willing to be wrong on that but I see hunger for winning not for being a great President with her. THAT'S that big difference between these two.

The time to consolidate Democratic forces is at the Democratic National Convention, not before. All of the rhetoric about "bickering" is nonsense. Keep the heat on!

What major policy differences are there between HRC and Obama? Probably not too huge. Hillary is probably better at pandering to mainstream interests (gas tax, abandon any semblance of gun control, try not to say anything definitive about abortion, pretend you won't raise taxes, etc.). Obama is learning to do the same. After all, they're both lawyers, right?

Stupid democrats.......doing all the Republicans work for them. Gotta love those negative ads!!!

McCAIN 2008!!!

tbernste - thanks. I don't have a blog, just read, think and write a lot.

Mantis - self-absorbed? I think that means "does things primarily for the benefit of oneself." So, it's not your problem that a large segment of our population has been disenfranchised for 150 years and you're not going to pay more taxes so that others can have health care, yet you think I'm self-absorbed?

My family came over from Eastern Europe around the same time yours did, and they fought to get their footing in this country against great odds. And when they succeeded, they turned around and reached out to the next group who was trying to do the same thing. To me, that's the best of what America's about. So I'm thrilled that black people are voting for someone who gives them hope and might help them succeed. If that's self-absorption, so be it, but I kind of think it's not.

P.S., I think you misunderstood what I was saying about the black vote. I agree that 90+% of black people who vote are voting for Obama, but I don't think that's the only reason he's winning. In some states, that's still a small part of who voted for him, because some states have a very small black population. My point was that it's not "just" black people who are voting for him and the ones who are voting for him may be doing so not "just" because they he is black.

"Finally, if she takes the nomination now, she will alienate large numbers of voters in the African-American community (look at that vote in North Carolina) and among the youth. (Where else will they go to vote? They'll sit the election out... as young people are unfortunately particularly capable of.)"

Sorry to say, kids and minorities (of any race creed or nationality) don't determine the election. As a matter of fact, they're usually an indicator or who is going to lose...

Americans may be tired of the Presidential Nomination process, but we bring it on ourselves. We created and subscribe to this overly long, expensive, and overly scrutinizing process. So, we should live with it and let it continue. Clinton should not conceed. There is no need for that. It is a fair process and both candidates should give it their all.

If Sen. Clinton thinks that the superdelegates are going to give her the nomination even though Obama has won the popular vote, she should remember her disappointment when Al Gore lost the election after winning the popular vote. It would be a pretty ridiculous thing for her to moan about that and then turn right around and do it to Obama.

On the other hand if she thinks the Democratic Party ought to nominate her using the FL and Michigan votes, she is relying on a savior (the FL and MI election officials) who basically told the DNC to kiss their rears.

Finally, if she takes the nomination now, she will alienate large numbers of voters in the African-American community (look at that vote in North Carolina) and among the youth. (Where else will they go to vote? They'll sit the election out... as young people are unfortunately particularly capable of.)

None of Sen. Clinton's options are good for the Democratic Party. She knows all this... and yet she loaned her campaign another $6 million dollars today. Not a great spending decision but maybe her consumer confidence is up in hopes of getting that $30 from her gas tax holiday.

whitechickNgeorgia Fauklands? You mean Falklands?..The war bewteen England and Argentina?..What the hell is a white chick from Georgia has to do with that? Granada?...What the hell? That wasn't even a war, was like a two day excursion.

Fascinating stuff though. I lived in GA for five years (albeit, it was Savannah which is 100% different from the rest of the state) and I had forgotten the sort of backwards white retards that populate such a fine land such as yourself. I still remember all the n##ger jokes you all used to make, which most of you found so funny. I even remember being asked to leave a restaurant just outside Atlanta because "we do not serve no damned Hispanics here" in reference to the two friends with me. This was 1995.

I think I may stick to my type of Patriotism, the daily quite one, the real one. Here in the real world Patriotism is something you do, not something you wear.

The Clinton dynasty is desperately trying to destroy the Democratic front-runner, Barack Obama, so they can continue their Clinton family Whitehouse dynasty. This is absolutely disgusting. Hillary, it is time for you to quit!

First, Pelosi or McCaskill as Veep would get Hillary female supporters behind the Dem Ticket and make a memory of the Clintons. Second, I've had enough of pundits suggesting Obama is unelectable.

For that to manifest itself, 'whites' would have to vote for continued war in Iraq, certainly a military draft, massive foreclosure problems, no energy relief, an erosion of liberties from lost Supreme Court replacement parts, job losses from foreign trade and competition, etc, and...uh...when weighed against keeping Obama, an African American, from being honored as equally as competent as themselves...oh, lord...maybe the pundits are right.

Talk about suicidal-bombers!

Dear Aaron M.

Point and explanation well taken. Yes, I did understand your reference regardng the distinction between speaking softly, carrying a big stick, and being willing to use the stick if necessary.

I'm envious of your opportunity to interact with your candidtaes personally. I applaud your political invovlement.

I guess, in the end, it will be you the people, you the Republic, that saves or destroys your grand experiment.

To paraphrase, I keep thinking about that old cliche that states that great men or women do not seek power, they have it thrust upon them and then rise to the occasssion, often during times that necessitate self sacrifice. I wonder where Ms. Clinton would be now if her husband had not already been President, and I wonder where Mr. Obama would be if he had not been so publicly endorsed, propelled, by Opra Winfrey, whom I hardly believe is qualified to be your Nation's policitcal standard bearer.

I concur with your assessment of Ms. Clinton's shameless attempts to identify with the common man and woman, but I also worry about Mr. Obama's reliance on charismatic speeches, his ability to tell people exactly what they want to hear when they need to hear it. Other men in history were just as good at this form of communication, men like Napoleon and Hitler. No, I'm not comparing Mr. Obama to them. I am simply saying that prepared speeches and charisma do not a leader make, and they often result in narcissism commensurate to the office sought or already held. This in turn can lead the Republic down a path it never thought it would go.

Well, who the hell am I to comment anyway.

Regardless of all the opinions offered here today, mine included, this Canadian's heart, intellect and political spirit stand with you the people, you the Republic.

May God, Allah, Yaweh, Buddha, etc., bless the people of this planet.

You're missing the point. Race is brought up to illustrate the fact that 12% of the population is not going to win an election against a viable Rep candidate. Especially when 2/3rds of HRC voters have stated they will jump ship if she is not nominated. They are both poor choices. She matches up with him better come November.

If you can;t buy the White House from a Seante seat for $11M personal funds probably time to step aside.

Thank you very much "Hank", "Jane", and "Maria." I have read your comments and I totally agree with them. Dont worry Jane this is something we american already know and is preparing for. He will have the power because the power is within the people not just within the people that we elect. Who if I could state has a bad habit of voting for things to benefit themselves or a small group of people they associate with, as Obama has pointing out.

President Bush or should I just say "Bush" having President demands respect for someone who has sense. The republican party has severely screwed things up in this county. It appears to me that they were not on the same page and trying to get what they wanted as an "individual" instead of a party. If that's what it means to be republican I will never contemplate being one. Now they are more divided then the Democrates.

Yes Jane President Obama will have the power because he has you, me,Hank, and many others who will stand beside him. And I mean stand beside him. He is the only President that I ever heard say "that we are all created equal and mean it."

Yes I use to be a Hillary Clinton supporter but I too started to see something that you all have commented about. She had an alternative motive which I can not afford to support. I will not support! There are many other americans that live in the US that are more worst off then me. I will not be the cause of their deaths and I mean deaths. If you can't afford to feed your family you will eventually die. President Obama knows how that feels just as I do! This is how serious of a situation that this country is in. Its time for a very quick change and as of today, and for now on, "I A FORMER HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTED WILL SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA FULLY. HE DESERVES A HONEST AND I SAY A HONEST CHANCE TO BETTER THE US AND THE WORLD.

And Nestor relax John McCain will not even come close, pay special attention to the numbers Nestor. People are very tired of Republicans and most Republicans are tired of their own party. Once Obama is nominated for the Democratic party nominee its all over! So just support him, life will take care of the rest. Believe!

Your right Adam in Maryland, it would have been great, but not for this country to vote for Hillary. Maybe someone else but regardless your absolutely right. She had my support and lost it as I watched her and Mr. Clinton very closely. A lot of things with her did not make much since. She really thought we were so stupid to believe that this Tax Cut would benefit us and give us relief. How many of you truly believe that? Relief come on! For a few months, that's not what I am looking for. We would have definitely pay for it in the end. They would have raised the taxes and prices to make up for the lost. That would really put an end to us. I'm looking for the long run a permanent solution to this crisis. Some restraints on these high power companies. These companies have to remember they are one, we are many. We made them and we can break them. Very easily. Be positive Adam. Thank You.

Okay now Swannie have you been watching the wrong channels again. President Obama did not block Michigan or Florida it was there own party who did. They broke the rules and paid the price. Now lets say hypothetically speaking, she did win Michigan and Florida big, double digits. It would not be even enough to beat Obama. When I was supporting Hillary I did the math and research, she would not even have enough votes or delegates to beat him. She did a lot of things wrong. Her attitude and the things she was doing cause great concern with the american public and her supporters. It sounds like your a die-hard Hillary fan. Lets see if you can put aside your differences and support for the right, "Obama," instead or the wrong, "John McCain," or should I say Bush McCain.

Now for Candoo I think you need to come back to reality and get out of the 1960's. We have moved on and so should you. I will pray for you and urge you to support Obama. It seems you have a lot of hatred going through you. Its okay to be a die-hard Hillary supporter but dont be a sore loser. Make the right choices for you and this county. Its not all about you and Hillary. God bless you.

Mary find help! Quickley please!

The whole "racial divide" thing makes no sense to me. Instead of asking why Obama is winning 90+% of the black vote (the answer is pretty obvious), the real question should be "Why is Obama winning 40% of working class whites while Hillary is winning less of the black vote than George Bush?". Hillary's supporters get so wrapped up in the simplistic politics of race that they can't see the simple fact that everyone else knows, one that has even been pointed out on Saturday Night Live: Barack Obama is leading handily amongst an important demographic--voters.

He is where he is because white voters, black voters, women voters, Hispanic voters, young voters, rich voters, poor voters, etc. all have supported him. At this point, all she is doing is letting the world know how out of touch with reality she really is. It is time to move on and prepare for the fall.

Does it matter that much? We have a large enough deficit and the dollar is weak enough that the next president / Congress will have limited maneuverability. Either party's candidate will have to scale back Iraq commitments or raise taxes to pay for them or cut domestic programs. The second two options are politically unpopular, while the first option will be welcomed.

The first term will be marked by economic sluggishness and malaise (remember Jimmy Carter?). Now, the 2012 winner may have more to work with. But I doubt that person will be the same one we elect this winter.

Here's something for you all to consider. Its not statistical fact but I'd put a hefty bet that this is true...If Barack Obama was a white male, let's say Barry O'baughmasee, this race would be exactly the same as it is now but with a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT demographic. Here's why: EXTREMELY LESS black and new voters, but a huge majority would be for Clinton as they were happy with the Clinton party. However, all the blue collar voters that she has now would UNDOUBTEDLY vote for the MAN, that grew up without the silver spoon and has proven you can come from nothing to be somebody in America, as that's the truly All-American story to most and they want to relate. And BTW, she would be the elitist, no doubt. He would also have the Asian and Hispanic vote because they are very traditional and just think America should only be ran by white men, but with the right views on immigration. And what's most interesting, is that a lot of people will just vote opposite of the large black majority that Clinton would have over Barry O'baughmasee just on general purpose. After all, if too many black people are voting for you, something must be wrong. Ok all, tell me I'm wrong, but isn't it funny how "politics" has basically nothing to do with it? Not 'change', not 'experience', not 'who answers the phone at 3am'. Open your eyes folks because this is REAL AMERICA, and its fairly obvious. I am not Caucasion-African-Mexican-Asian-AMERICAN. I am an American Realist. I'd like a Democratic President and hope that whoever wins doesn't destroy the party. I think outside of this 'politicking' either would be better for America. However, looking at history, its time for me to get my paperwork in order and passport ready. I won't be one to sit and complain, I'll just leave. All empires in history have fallen, the saddest part is that GWB may be lucky to not take the blame that he so deserves. I say good luck to whoever takes over.

It's over. The only way HRC can win is for Obama to be assassinated. Even Obama's former pastor couldn't save her. It's time for the Democratic leaders to tell the remaining superdelegates to get off the fence and make HRC quit so we can concentrate on the real contest.

Look, folks, it's not a FAULT to be privileged; it's an accident of birth. The point is, what do you DO with your privilege?

1. Do you rejoice that you have been so lucky, feel superior and cash in on it as much as you can before you die?

2. Or do you look at other people and think about what you have in common with ALL of them as human beings, and about what would make the world a better place for yourself and for everybody else?

If your answer is 1, then you and Hillary are not going to cut it for today's America.

Yea, Edwards the guy who made a fortune suing doctors with frivolous lawsuits. A real working man.

ProPsych

You sound self-absorbed.

1. "People who are saying they refuse to vote for their nonfavored Democratic candidate can't really care about the country."

We need to have a presence in the Middle East forever. That is caring for our country and its interests.

Who is going to pay for this health care? I'm not, I'm already taxed to the hilt.

2. "The arguments about experience do not hold water."

You're wrong. He is a three year junior senator who is doing a poor job. Self serving and pandering legislation designed to not "step on anyones toes" There is a reason why senators are not often elected to office, they either have an offensive voting record or lack of one...

3. "Florida and Michigan need to be settled"

It is they're done, my suggestion is to stop whining and let there vote do the talking, so it doesn't happen again.

4. "Finally, it is time to stop dismissing Obama's voting successes as just "black people" supporting him because he's black."

Every statistical survey in the United States disagrees with you... 91% of the total statistical survey of black voters voted for Obama.

As far as the 150 year comment. Your problem, my ancestors arrived in 1909 from Eastern Europe, I don't owe you anything. I'll be keeping my opinion as yours is wrong...

For those who threaten to vote for Mccain, I have only one question. Are you people insane? So you are really telling me that you would rather vote for Mccain than vote for Obama. This really tells me that you people don't really love your country. How could you love the U.S if you want to vote for someone from the party that mangled the economy via a war that should not have been waged, for running up a deficit that your children children will have to pay for, among other terrible things. Do what you have to do but prepare to live with added negative consequences.

Hillary to make History!

The hell with Mi & Fl. Quit blaming Obama for this mess. Hillary should of pulled her name off the ballot in Mi too. Why didn't she?
Fl and Mi will get a chance to vote for real in November. Get over it.

Where on earth does the whole notion that Obama is "unelectable" come from? This is a laughably unsupported idea. Democratic registrations are at unprecedented highs--in some cases they have nearly doubled--all due to Obama. How on earth does that translate into "unelectability"??--he has brought more people into the Dem side of the political equation than any politician in 50 years! He has also demonstrated much broader appeal than HRC--everyone keeps talking about the fact that Obama is only winning 40% of working class whites--what about the fact that HRC isn't winning ANY independents, who are far more important in the general election. Those working class democrats who go for Hillary in primaries are ALWAYS going to vote Dem...Get real! Obama is the first Dem with broad appeal in a long time, and his message is just more in tune with America's mood...Hill's day is past, and she needs to wake up and concede the race to her far more capable opponent.

I say let Hillary stay in until she and Bill are bankrupt. Justice for the damage they've done to the party on their "we made you and we can break you" campaign.

Keep the checkbook handy. You're going to need it.

Hillary wanted to make history.
Hillary is history.

Even if they seat FL & MI as is today, she still cannot overcome Obama's lead.

I find it so distressing that HRC supporters who say Obama cannot be elected because what the GOP will do to him. I believe that shy of the 30% who still support Bush and those BITTER HRC supporters who will cut their nose off in spite of their face Obama is going to clean McCain's clock.

People are so FED UP they are not going to fall for the foolishness like a stupid flag pin, someone whose home you had dinner at or who your Pastor is. America is smarter than that, rephrase, most of America is smarter than that!

Obama's judgement regarding his Pastor has not affected one singles person's life.

The vote for war judgement has contributed to the loss of 4072 US lives, 30,000 injuries, and over $100 billion dollars spent. That type of judgement affects voters lives! Not someone's preacher, the last time I looked we are all capable of forming our own values. My hubby and I have been together for years he has very chauvistic views, they don't inform mine. My aunt is still bitter about the Jim Crow years, that doesn't inform my view.

Ask yourself why would someone who doesn't love America run for president and go through all the crap you will be put through? Why would a guy who couldn't be making millions a year choose to be a public servant?

Also ask yourself do we really want to hold people accountable for associations? How would Senator Clinton fair in that scenario, starting with her husband, then her dear friend Web Hubbell, or her brothers who took money to get pardons from Pres. Clinton, or the law firm she worked at during college with Communist, or her association with the neo-con prayer group and that's just to name a few? John McCain is no better if we want to talk about associations.

I think we should judge the candidates based on their character and on what they have done and said, not someone they know.

Lastly, if you want to know what Obama has done, feel free to look at the archives of the Washington Post which talked about his state legislative experience, feel free to go to the library of congress to see what he has proposed and what he has been successful at. Let's remember the Republicans have pretty much blocked all Democratic proposals for years.

After all is said and done, Obama/Clinton ticket will easily beat McCain. The change will happen.

Posted by: DenisR | May 7, 2008 1:30 PM

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I agree. There will be a back-room deal to put these two on the same ticket. In the end, most democrats will be happy with the ticket.

I would suggest that we simply have a few more weeks to allow those states who have not voted to have their say.

I would hope that Clinton and Obama would now both focus their attacks on John McCain. We need to put a Democrat back in the White House.

But even though I think that Barack Obama has the nomination all but sewn up, he and his supporters will hopefully realize that they need the Clinton's support to win in November. Hillary has won all those Reagan Democrats who we need back in the party to win in November. African Americans and upper income white liberals won't win an election for President for the Democrats. We have seen that with John Kerry and Al Gore. Even though Al Gore got more votes than Bush he still lost because those votes weren't in the right states.

I would urge Obama supporters who have accused the Clintons of everything including racism to begin to hold their fire.

It is time to accept that without the overwhelming Black vote Barack Obama would not have won the Democratic nomination so turning Obama into a Black candidate was done by the Obama team not the Clintons.

But now is the time to turn Obama into a candidate who can do what Hillary has done so well and that is talk to middle America.

Obama can win in November and I for one find McCain unacceptable but it won't be easy. The Democrats will now nominate the person who will have a harder time beating McCain and the Clintons traveling the country for Obama will be a great help and maybe even make the difference for him. It is time for the Obama people to realize and even admit that if Obama can return the country to the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years he will be seen as a great President.

The world situation won't change because Barack Obama is President. In fact it may get worse at first as rogue nations and our enemies test him. We saw what happened to JFK. He was unable to get most of his agenda passed and was tested with the Cuban Missile Crisis. He handled it well but a more seasoned President may not have even been faced with it.

The other issue Obama may face if he is elected is the crushing dissapointment his young supporters will face as he takes much longer than he promised to extricate us from Iraq and has to break some of his campaign committments. Also if we believe his trade advisors he will back track on his NAFTA changes.

So Obama supporters if you want to move forward now is the time to cultivate the Clintons not attack them. The prize is the White House and Bill and Hillary have been there and Obama has not. Get them on your side. Let Hillary Clinton , if she is not the nominee, feel comfortable standing up at the convention and endorsing Obama and not do what Teddy Kennedy did and make a speech and then refuse to shake hands with Carter on the podium in 1980. Funny but Kennedy should be speaking out now in support of Hillary continuing and should be telling Obama what to do so that Hillary doesn't repeat his arrogance.

I am an Obama supporter, but I'm guessing he will be assassinated if he wins the general election.

That is, if he doesn't die in a plane crash a week before the election (a la Paul Wellstone, Mel Carnahan).

The GOP establishment fears this man.

Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton.

It's good that we have a democracy so the people can choose our most qualified leader. Too bad there's apparently only two families in the country that meet the qualifications.

Obama '08

It's depressing enough that people make some of these inane comments without you posting them again. "Thinker"? Please, why don't you at least avoid echoing the cacophony of these partisan shills?

Hillary, it's time to break loose of the shock and rally around Barack. I say it's full time to let go of the drama and endorse Obama. Please, Hillary, I hope you can here me well - Michelle my bell. To stay in the race is only to perpetuate the madness of hope to you supporters via fuzzy math. People are way too clever you should have discern that by the Indiana gas weather backfire.

AnnaMarie, chart your own course and write in your own name. You'll have 8 long years to deal with the consequences so no complaining.

Dear propsych,

I thought your four important points were excellent. Your thinking is fair in its approach but objective about the facts.

Do you have a blog?

tbernste

What is so special with Barak Obama?
His supporters Black & White get defensive when race is mentioned. Almost as if humanity owes it to the Blacks.

90% Blacks are voting for him...does that not tell a race story or have all the blacks suddenly become so intelligent and are voting for him only on issues.

20 years of listening to crap and only distancing himself when his White House bid was no the line. Give me a freaking break if America cannot see through this.

I WILL vote John McCain just on this issue.

Cheers

"Obama wont win in the fall.
Mr United has managed to divide the party
He needs to rethink or quit."

"OBAMA divided the party?" And Hillary was the great uniter, I suppose. Got it.

"Obama quit"

Yeah, that's going to happen....

Hillary when you sucked up to drug addict Rush Limberger your sticker came off my coffee mug. I gave you money early and now you really really are using the campaign of chaos/republican dirty tricks crap. You have crapped out on the Democrat Party, please please quit!!!

Obama wont win in the fall.
Mr United has managed to divide the party and will divide the country over the summer. Dope
He needs to rethink or quit.

"I think that it is outragous that anyone thinks that Hillary should quit"

C'mon, the numbers are simply not there for her, period. Now we are at the point where her drive to get elected is going from spirited and tough, to desperate and a little creepy, leaving her certainly open to the criticism that the Clintons feel a certain entitlement to be the candidate. The math for her to win simply is not there anymore, she cannot trade baskets with Obama and that is her best case scenario at this point, unless of course she really drags out some nasty dirt on Obama out of desperation. The whole Michigan/Florida argument smacks of that, too. By attempting to change the agreed-upon rules so late in the game smacks of doing anything to get elected and that is the very thing we are trying to get away from in politics, I thought. For the sake of the party and her own legacy, she needs to gracefully and proudly concede.

If Hillary could put our Nation's interests above her own, she would have withdrawn earlier and not engaged in cheap theatrics (beer drinking, gun-toting lies) and childish attacks on Obama.
Makes me worry that if she somehow wrangled the VP spot on Obama's ticket she would spend the four years undermining him as she surreptitiously prepared for a 2012 Presidential bid.

The only motto Hillary has is "I can beat /insert Republican candidate here/."

Well, turns out thats a pretty flimsy platform to run on. Just ask Giulianni.

Seriously, what happens after Hillary gets elected? What happens after the smashing good rounds of Mint Juleps and huzzahs for the Democratic Party? What happens after the inevitable Florida recount and the Republican has conceded?

Oh... hmmm. Well... I know! $5000 for having a baby! Yeah! A gas tax relief! Ooooh ooooh I know! Sniper stories for everyone! And only ugly male assistants for Bill!

Hillary has worn out her good name and dragged it through the mud herself through the course of the election. Even if she had a chance of winning, she now has passinate protagonists where before she had a healthy audience. If her supporters choose to be so blind that they Vote for McCain if Hillary loses the primaries, they were voting on the wrong principals to begin with. Its not about party divisions or being a woman, revenge, being a democrat, or even being a black man, its about platform, goals, and morals... Which Obama has represented and will continue to do through his campaign. She should gracefully bow out and donate money to charity instead of continuing this veign attempt at domination. Open your eyes!

Support for Obama is waning nation-wide. He dropped 16 points in the latest Gallup Poll, and is now trailing Clinton by 6 (5 point margin of error). He is incapable of earning the required number of delegates to secure the democratic nomination. The contests in North Carolina and Indiana did not strongly favor Obama, or depart in any significant way from predicted results. North Carlolina was Obama's first win since February. It would be hard to say that Obama has momentum.

In addition to those facts, there are a variety of unknown variables that could win the nomination for Hillary. The superdelegate issue and the Michigan-Florida issue are the two most obvious. Shifting popular opinions might also be a factor in the run up to the convention.

Financial concerns aside, there is no reason that Hillary should quit. Demands that she do so are simply panicked hail-mary's from the Obama camp. No one really knows how this contest will be resolved, let alone who the winner will be.

I think that everyone - maybe the Washington Post in particular, should do their best to remember that we live in a democratic republic. We should celebrate the election process, not simply cut it short if we fear it might yeild results that make us uncomfortable as individuals.

If Florida and Michigan violated their party rules, thus precluding their legitimate participation as primaries, then I would say it was always clear that those contests don't count, and shouldn't have happened. Hillary should respect that. She shouldn't try to overturn the rules set by the Democratic Party. The voters in these two states should blame their state parties for breaking the rules from the national committees.

Hillary is not winning because we live in a patriarchal society.
Most people still believe that a woman is not as capable as a man.

Anything Hillary does causes comments either that she is behaving just like a woman or that she is not behaving like a woman should.

Have there been ANY comments about the actions of Obama or
McCain acting either just like a man or not like a man should?

Time for the general election!

All remaining superdelegates need to commit to Obama and end the farce of clinton's twisted math, and back room arm twisting of her co-dinasaur class politicians.

Vote Obama for President!

You people do realize the winner goes on to be the ruler of the free world, not the prom king?

A junior senator of 3 years? I think you're all being real optimistic...

No Florida! No Michigan! Biased press coverage! Over 90% AA support for one person! - give me a break, no DNC!

When Hillary goes, my 30 years of staunch DNC and equal rights support goes to the RNC. I will be formally transferring parties, and pulling as many DCN folks as I can with. This affluent white man has had it with this bias, and these hateful, racists, comments in which folks push a nomination and vote for an AA for solely the color of skin.

On the up side Mr. John McCain needs some money and if quite a few of us go, the remaining DCN folks will have some more American Citizens to continue to loathe.

I for one intend to have fun learning about my new party and continuing the good fight against bias and racism. I invite more to jump ship to get away from the DNC bigotry.
Frankly I will miss my DNC party that used to think with its heart and worry about the people, I hope the RNC is ready for some new thinking.
Best Wishes everyone and have fun during the general.

Of course, everyone has the right to his/her opinion. But here are some important points:

1. People who are saying they refuse to vote for their nonfavored Democratic candidate can't really care about the country. Both Hillary and Obama will end the war, improve health care, make sure that at least centrist judges are placed on the Supreme Court (which will help end the erosion of our freedoms that have occurred with the Bush presidency). They will improve our standing in the world by reaching out to other nations, both friend and foe, knowing that this is the ONLY way to make us safer in the world. They will undo Bush's farce of an education policy and reintroduce the idea that education is about more than learning how to do well on standardized tests. They will begin to work heavy and hard on reducing our dependence on oil and correcting the environmental problems that we face. They will understand that an economy that leaves out the vast middle class is doomed to failure and find ways to improve the financial situation of people who are not wealthy.

John McCain, on the other hand, will do none of that. In addition, he will bankrupt this country and kill your children and mine by making them fight in a failed, pointless war. And he will pay his debt to the conservative right by nominating people to the Supreme Court who will end many of the freedoms and rights we cherish.

So, you have to decide which set of policies and values you want for yourself, your family and your country and vote for the candidate who is most likely to support them. Otherwise, you are not voting for the good of the country or even yourself, you are voting out of spite.

2. The arguments about experience do not hold water. In recent years, our country was the most stable under the leadership of Bill Clinton, who had no experience in national leadership or foreign policy. Franklin Roosevelt had experience in naval administration, but had only served as a state governor when he was elected. Even Ronald Reagan, who was widely beloved in this country, had never served in national office.

So, Obama, who has served several years as a US senator in addition to his Illinois State Service, is at least as experienced as some of our most successful presidents.

As for Hillary, she has similar experience to Obama in terms of national leadership (with a few more years under her belt). And while she was privy to inside discussions about policy and got to travel a great deal when she was the president's wife, she had no decision-making authority and she was not an elected official. She does have experience working in national campaigns, which makes me ask why she hasn't been more astute, both in her choices of campaign managers and the decisions she has made. The nomination was hers to lose and it appears that she has all but lost it.

3. Florida and Michigan need to be settled, but it needs to be done fairly. Make no mistake, Obama did not set up this conflict, the Florida and Michigan state democratic parties did when they voted to move their elections up. They were told up front what would happen, and they chose to do it anyway, so you can't blame Hillary, Obama or Dean for that.

That said, the people of Florida and Michigan should not be penalized for decisions made above their head. It would be extremely unfair to seat the delegations from Michigan as things stand; Obama played by the rules there and took his name off the ballot. Noone knows how things would have played out had he stayed in, but even if he had stayed in and Michigan was won by Clinton, he would have still gained somewhere in the vicinity of 45% of the votes. So, you can't just count her votes and say he doesn't get any. The same is true for Florida. Who knows what would have happened if both candidates had campaigned there. But, if you give Obama the 45% of the votes Hillary didn't get in Michigan and the 33% he earned in Florida, he still wins both the pledged delegate count and the popular vote.

So, yes, let's find a fair way to get those delegates seated and include the people of Florida and Michigan in the electoral process. But also lets stop pretending that any fair settlement of this conflict will result in Hillary winning the nomination through pledged delegates and/or the popular vote.

4. Finally, it is time to stop dismissing Obama's voting successes as just "black people" supporting him because he's black. First of all, it's very offensive and doesn't acknowledge that people of color make decisions about who to vote for based on a number of factors, just like everyone else does. Yes, he gets some votes because people have an affinity for people who are like them. That's why white women are somewhat more likely to vote for Hillary and white men have been happy to vote for white men all of these years.

Having been disenfranchised in the political process for the past 150 years, could it be that black voters feel that they may have a person in Barack Obama who would include them in his policies, appointments and so forth more than the other candidates would? They tended to vote for Bill Clinton for the same reason. It's not racism to vote for the person who you think has more interest in you, your life and your place in the country.

Also, people misinterpret statistics. I'm from North Carolina. Yes, we have approximately a 50% black population and 90%+ of the black people who voted yesterday voted for Obama. Some people seem to think it's fine when Hillary wins a huge percent of blue-collar white voters, or older women, but less valid when Obama wins a large percentage of a different group. Black people voted for Obama in North Carolina yesterday, but so did lots of 50-something, middleclass, white men and women, like me.

Turn out was huge; people who never voted before voted. The conventional wisdom about what is a red state and what is a blue state won't hold if so many previously nonvoting citizens start to vote, as they have been in these primaries. Obama really does have a chance to change at least the colors of the map on election night.

So, have your opinions, as I have mine, but at least understand the issues.

The only way for Hillary to win is to have party insiders steal the election from Obama, as he has won the popular vote, the delegate count, and the greatest number of states.

It's not a question of giving up, Hillary. It's a question fo seeing things as they are and not how you want them to be.

Gass tax did her in? Not hardly. Probably because more people are learning what a classless candidate she really is. No integrity, no ethics and no morals. Just like her so called husband, the predator.
Neither of them should be allowed within miles of the White House.

Lets be fair here. Florida and Michigan party officials broke the rules. They should pay the price. No one who was involved in the decision should be allowed to vote, however the people deserve to be represented. So a 50/50 split in each state is fair.
As or Hillary being told to quit. It is her decision alone. After all the work, time, money, effort she has put into the campaign for the last 15 months no one has the right to tell her to quit.

FIGHT ON, Senator Clinton.

Obama's a young man, and has plenty of time to reach the top.
It's now or never for you, Clinton.

Ideally, it will be 8 years with Clinton/ Obama, and then 8 years Obama/ Edwards because it's going to take 16 years to correct Bush's 8 years of bankrupting America.

I grew up in a country that taught me that US of America had Democracy while Soviet Union had Communism. I asked what is the difference since both had elections.

My English Teacher said, Soviets only had ONE party and all candidates are from that same party. There was really no choice. I then thought i understood.

But today looking at US of America and all the above comments, I understand the truth. USA has also one single party called The United Bankers Party puts up a few pathetic candidates all of whom are related to these same group in one way or other. None is going to work for the people of US of America. So while peple suffer higher costs, stagnating salaries, lowered standard of living, the Bankers Party is having a real party celebrating the correction of a few (0ver 100) Billion dollar losses they had made by underestimating market

I realy hope our brothers in US of America will stop talking if someone is Black or white. Women or Man. Experienced or inexperienced. And actually start looking for a real leader. Maybe You need a revolution. Because France or Germany did not become a comfortable power by sleeping but fighting for every single right.

The Euro is going up and up and even their interest rates are going up. The American Bankers are quietly shifting out of US of America and moving to Singapore, China and of course mostly to Europe.

Please... Wake up!

What you need is a real President who is paid by the people and owes his election to his people. Only Obama can claim that right now. Not Hillary or McCain who gets "loan" from various sources.

You cannot vote for a person whom you think others will vote for. So stop the stupid surveys and stop arguing if Obama is electable.

You vote for whom you want. A country will always get a President that it deserves.

Let's see what US of America deserves.

I was a Hillary supporter and contributor, but tired of her negative campaign tactics. That said, I still have tremendous respect for the service she and her husband have given our country and the Democratic Party. I trust that she will actually do what's best for the party and the progressive cause and step down soon with her head held high. And then I expect her to battle, as she is so darn good at doing, for Obama in November. With Obama in the White House and Hillary a leader in the Senate, we might actually get some change we can believe in.

I would like to know what escalated Obama to such fame politically. Accomplishments? Credentials? Speeches (his convention speech of 2004 was magnificent). Even so, I firmly
believe change will be more quickly realized from a woman like Hillary who's familiarity and experience in gov't and diplomacy exceeds Obama's. In such trying times are we prepared for further experimentation? I am sincerely concerned with the possibility of a McCain upset if Obama is the nominee in Nov. The Supreme Court is on the line. Lives are on the line. I'll continue to support Hillary Clinton. I'll vote for Obama if he is the ultimate nominee, but will be very concerned about the outcome against McCain . Obama's time may come; but is it now or in the future when he is more seasoned?

Ok, let's make a hypothetical deal:
1. We seat the Florida and Michigan delegates as is (even with a flawed election)
2. We takes away the votes for Hillary that she got based on her NAFTA lies (which won her Ohio)
3. We take away the votes she got due to "Operation Chaos"

Clinton supporters don't seem to be concerned with fairness.

Look, let's get real, she was the unanimous fore-runner, she blew it.

If she would have run a high-minded campaign instead of stooping to the lowest of lows and pandering to every state I would have some respect for her, might have even voted for her.

Hillary, save face, and hope for VP.

RULES ARE RULES!!! Both candidates knew that the elections in Michigan and Florida would not count. Hillary thought that this would be over afer Super Tuesday, as she was so far ahead in the polls. She didn't care if the results in Florida or Michigan would be counted as she stored up her super delegates(She had a 97 Superdelegate lead going into Super Tuesday, That lead has been cut to 20 recently) She has no chance to catch Obama in the delegate race!!!Having lost the national elected delegate race, Hillary Clinton now wants to count the popular vote and seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida in her campaign's efforts to change the rules of the nomination race. It's a fraudulent argument as the Michigan primary ballot did not offer Democrats real candidate choices.

Here is what actually happened. The four top tier Democratic candidates -- Obama, Edwards, Richardson and Clinton -- all pledged to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) they would not campaign in Michigan, and Florida after the DNC ruled that Michigan's and Florida's delegates would not be seated at the national convention because Michigan changed its primary date from February 26 to January 15.

Obama, Edwards and Richardson kept their pledge and removed their names from the ballot. At the last minute, Clinton left her name on the ballot, with the full knowledge that the results would not count. Obama, Edwards and Richardson complied with the rules, while Clinton did not keep her pledge.

Although there was no other viable candidate's name on the primary ballot, only 55 percent voted for Clinton. Instead --

45 percent of Democratic voters cast their ballots as "not-Clinton" - 40% who voted the "Uncommitted" line and 5% who voted for one of the remaining candidates that were not viable.



An additional 27,694 voters did not have their votes counted, most of these likely due to "write-in" votes -- anyone writing in Obama, Edwards or Richardson's name had their ballot ruled invalid and discarded.



"Uncommitted" won more votes than Clinton did in major cities such as Grand Rapids, Detroit, Flint, Saginaw and Ann Arbor. The "not Clinton" vote also won in Wayne (the state's most populous county), along with several other counties. If write-in votes had been counted, the results would likely have tipped against Clinton in several more cities and counties.



Democratic turnout in Michigan was lower than every other state primary except Utah -- a state that gave Bush 70 percent of its vote in 2004.



Recent analysis of the 2008 turnout in other states compared to Michigan's turnout -- indicates that more than 700,000 Michigan Democratic voters, who could have been expected to participate, stayed home rather than vote. They didn't participate because they understood there was no real Democratic election choice in Michigan.

Michigan primary history had previously established a precedent for the 2008 situation. During the contested presidential primary of 1980, the DNC ruled that Michigan delegates would not be seated at the convention because the state was holding an open primary not recognized at that time by party rules. President Jimmy Carter and his challenger, Senator Edward Kennedy both kept their names off the ballot -- they honored the rules.

Clinton did not follow the precedent set by Carter and Kennedy. Instead, the Clinton campaign tried to claim Michigan delegates that were not earned competitively. When that gambit failed, Clinton began counting the popular vote in Michigan as part of her national total.

The facts associated with the Michigan Democratic primary make it clear that Michigan voters were disenfranchised by the election. As a result, the primary vote cannot be considered an honest and valid measurement of the support for any Democratic candidate in Michigan.

Perhaps a fitting postscript can be found in a recent Michigan poll by Lansing-based EPIC-MRA. In that highly respected poll, Obama led McCain 43-41 percent, while McCain led Clinton 46-37 percent. Obama was running a full 11 percentage points better than Clinton in Michigan -- when matched against McCain.

If Michigan had not moved up its original primary date of February 26, a vigorous and fair democratic primary election campaign in Michigan could have taken place. Then the real voice of Michigan Democratic voters would have been heard. Anll the current evidence indicates that the voters' choice would have been Barack Obama -- not Hillary Clinton.

I think that it is outragous that anyone thinks that Hillary should quit and I am ashamed that the head of the Democratic party has said she should. What kind of message does that send? Why shouldn't she fight till the last vote has been cast? What is a convention for if not to elect a nominee? I am proud of the turn outs from each state. I am from Colorado and I went to a caucus.....I have never even heard of one before this election. I really don't think that any Democrat would vote for McCain just because of the fight between Obama and Clinton. And who started the whole saying that someone needs to drop out to "heal" the party???? People need to stop letting the media make up their minds for them and start thinking for themselves.

It amazes me that Hillary supporters STILL talk about Michigan and Florida as unfair.
There are clear facts about this to be considered.
1 - Hillary was in favor of not counting these states back when she was the huge favorite to win the nomination and saw it as a chance to shrink the chances of other candidates catching her.
2 - Obamas numbers improved in nearly ever primary once campaigning occurred. Since no campagining occurred he did not fair well in these 2 states. Had campaigning occurred there is no doubt Obama would have closed the gap considerably.
3 - Even if you count Florida as is and Michigan (giving Obama credit for the noncommitted votes since he wasn't on the ballot) she is still behind too far to catch up to Obama.
It's time to give it up folks - everyone knows this is over - including Hillary, she just needs to keep a game face until she can come to terms with Obama over an exit plan.

I am not clear when the "last important states" became so important. Clinton ran a campaign premised upon the notion that this race would not go beyond Super Tuesday, at the latest, so it's a little disingenuous for Clinton and her supporters to speak as though she is, as a matter of principle, committed to having a nominee chosen by all 50 states. Moreover, Clinton agreed before any vote was counted, that FL and MI should be punished for moving up their primaries. She believed that they would not count anyway, but now, they are really important states and they absolutely must be heard.

I am a Floridian, and I will not hold it against the DNC for this. If anyone is to blame, the state Democratic parties ought to bear the blame. And further, they were only responding to the sense from the Clinton-running-on-inevitability message that it would, indeed, all be over by Super Tuesday.

Now I do not believe I see into the future, so Obama may not beat McCain, but I know that saying it over and over surely makes it more likely. The question is, if this campaign was about "the people" then why stand in the way of the marked improvement that Obama will make in their lives v. a McCain administration? This is not evidence of concern about the people, but concern about extending the Clinton power machine.

Clinton might have made a fine president. She is a much better candidate than even she thought she could be, but for the sake of the Party, and the people needing a president who is looking out for their interests, Clinton should suspend her campaign.

The way it is right now, Hillary's last big chance has come and gone. She needed a strong showing last night in Indiana, if not North Carolina, and instead it turned out to be a difference of only 20,000 votes between the two of them--20,000 votes that, were it not for Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos," might not have come out for her.

The math is against her: the DNC's math, Obama's math, even her own math that discounts all the early caucuses and counts Florida and Michigan. She doesn't have the delegates, she's rapidly losing ground with superdelegates, the gap in the popular vote has widened back to pre-Pennsylvania levels.

She will win West Virginia and Kentucky. But it won't be enough. The race is, for all intents and purposes, over. We shouldn't be fighting amongst one another while Bush III sits by idly, letting us tear one another to pieces.

I can't believe people are actually suggesting that they'll vote for McCain over Obama OR Hillary. Are we so petty that we're forgetting where the Republicans have gotten us over the past eight years? No matter who the Democratic nominee is--Obama is likely, Hillary is highly unlikely, but still--they are better than the Republican candidate, and so we have to support them to the bitter end. That is why we need to bring this to an end this month--we need a clear direction for the party NOW and we need to reverse the trend of divisiveness. One needs to wholeheartedly endorse the other, and we need to focus on the general election.

McCain isn't the maverick the mainstream media loves to portray him as; he abandoned that image in order to attract the conservative base, and in his abandonment he lost my respect.

(from Sam)
"The GOP WILL rip Obama to shreds."

If the Republicans were so sure that they could make mincemeat of Obama come November, Rush Limbaugh wouldn't be sending his acolytes out to jump the fence in open primaries and skew the vote toward Clinton. They want no part of Obama in the general election, because he not only offers a stark contrast to their Bush-lite nominee in a year when masses of people are fed up with politics as usual, but he has proven that he has an ability to inspire audiences, to make them feel hopeful and positive even in the face of the current downward spiral, to expand the electorate with new voters, to attract independents and moderate Republicans who are as sickened by the current course of national affairs as any of us, to address and deflect personal attacks without allowing them to consume him or his campaign, and to, most importantly, offer the country something truly new -- in approach, in style, in ideas, in action -- after the corrosive negativity of the Bush years. He'll have to pick the right running mate (not Hillary Clinton) and surround himself with an experienced, statesmanlike and highly visible brain trust to counter the jabs at his lack of experience, but I really think he can pull this off. And if the Republicans didn't think so, too, they wouldn't be trying so hard to swing the nomination to his opponent.

It was all about the Gas tax Holiday, Hilary supported it.

The Clinton campaign thought they had drawn Obama into a tough argument,because they "thought" that Hilary was more "experienced" candidate with the Economy,but she failed to reflect that perception and it cost her a lot.

She moved quite a bit to the right because he DIDN'T move, he looks more liberal as a result and won Super Tuesday, North Carolina by a big win, and lost Indiana by merely a 2% margin,the pressure is on again but this time stronger, for Hilary to FINALLY drop out since it is clear that she must begin her exit strategy.

By the end of this week, more superdelegates will come to this realisation and endorse Obama and he will gain the required momentum to see him through.

Here are the reasons why Hilary must begin her exit strategy now:

(1)There is really no mathematical chance for her to win.

(2)Her campaign is virtually out of money -she has been repeatedly loaning her campaign money instead of effectively attracting donors- and it will be difficult for her to raise significant amounts of money after Super Tuesday.

(3) Not enough happened on Supter tuesday for North Carolina and Indiana to give her any hope, so continuing would only give the appearance to any political scientist of wanting to damage Obama's shot at the presidency.

How does Hilary want to be remembered ?

Hilary has to exit in such a way as to not damage her political future,
She could try for the nomination again, but even if she does not run for president in 2012, she is up for re-election to the Senate that year.
Or she could run for governor of New York in 2010. Or she might want to become majority leader of the Senate.

She has options, but only if she manages her endgame carefully.

If she becomes known as the candidate who was willing to DESTROY her party in order to gain the nomination, she is likely to lose not just the nomination but also her POLITICAL FUTURE within the Democratic Party.

Obama does not have to re-orient his political views for the general election, but once Hillary FINALLY drops out, he will no longer be facing an opponent who is attacking him relentlessly, but whose supporters he must have to keep him on board for November.

He'll simply have to make nice with Hillary's supporters, and remind them of what is at stake if McCain wins, but except for a prejudiced few who won't vote for him because of race, he has at least a reasonable shot of attracting most of Hilary's supporters for the general since the political views between Obama and Hilary is closer than the Political views between McCain and Obama or Hilary.

If he does that, he has a great chance of winning.

Yes, it is finally time for Senator Clinton to go home. The race for the nomination is over. The citizens of the US do not see her as honest, her game plan didn't work, time to concede gracious and work to get Senator Obama elected.

Hey Clinton, you've been out raised, out smarted, out classed, out voted, and out delegated, now it's time to just get out.

I like and have a great deal of respect for the Clintons; however, I am an Obama supporter. It has been a great race, but it's time to start bringing the party back together. If Hillary would work as hard putting the party back together, as she has been trying to get back into the white house, I think her efforts would be blessed with a Vice President position, or a cabinet position. The true mark of a president is the ability to put the welfare of his or her people first. She is behind with no chance to catch-up; will she put the best interest of the Democrat party first?

YEP, it is time for her to go!

Hillary, it is over! Quit! You should be intelligent enough to know that you have made many mistakes during your campaign and that your history as a former First Lady did not help you at all. Even Bill could not have helped you with your failing candidacy. Surprisingly, your last mistake was to call for a gas-tax holiday this summer. That was a stupid suggestion economically and you know it! You did not even have the courage or the decency to apologize for this gas-tax proposal. Go home and be a good wife - as much as you can, and mother, and forget about the "midnight caller"!

Time for the party to unify. Pack it up and go home Hillary. Your campaign lacked vision and truth. Like your husband you put your finger in the political wind and go where it leads you. Time for a new generation with a new vision for America. My god, I couldn't imagine 8 years of you and Bill in the Whitehouse.

How someone can fight so hard... be so wrong... and still win the war... Hillary... I want you to change horses... right here in mid stream... now... today... you are one of the finest riders on the storm I have ever seen... you are a fighter on the wrong horse... change horses... pick a good one... pick a hard race... pick the toughest tack you can find and ride like hell... ride high in the saddle... show the world you are more than anyone ever thought you could be... show the world you care deeply about all of us... take this wonderful talent you have... this invincible desire to scrap and fight to change the very history of humankind... change our earth into a world we can all be proud of... Hillary... listen... our earth... or heavens... our weather... our very lives need a knight in shinning armor... needs someone... you Hillary... please change... fight to save our world... heal our planet Hillary... heal us all with this Viking heart of yours... join Al Gore... join the movement to save the planet... President Obama needs your spirit to ward off this global catastrophe of rising seas, dying forest, famine, drought and plague... he needs you... our country needs you... we all need you to heal our planet now... Hillary... heal this world and you will heal yourself... good job... now win a war we all can be proud of you for... and remember... "If wishes were horses than beggars would ride and if turnips were watches I would wear one by my side" AtomicZ...

After all is said and done, Obama/Clinton ticket will easily beat McCain. The change will happen.

Hillary should stay in the race since all voters are entitled to let their opinions be recorded. The primary process was put in place to allow the voters to speak. Those who want her to get out of the race simply do not believe in democracy. The Democratic National Committee invented this tortuously long process not Hillary. As one who has labored for many years for candidates, I respect all who run for office, since it is so demanding, but this long presidential selection process is simply outrageous in the demands placed on them. There should be a national primary, so we can be fair to all concerned.

How someone can fight so hard... be so wrong... and still win the war... Hillary... I want you to change horses... right here in mid stream... now... today... you are one of the finest riders on the storm I have ever seen... you are a fighter on the wrong horse... change horses... pick a good one... pick a hard race... pick the toughest tack you can find and ride like hell... ride high in the saddle... show the world you are more than anyone ever thought you could be... show the world you care deeply about all of us... take this wonderful talent you have... this invincible desire to scrap and fight to change the very history of humankind... change our earth into a world we can all be proud of... Hillary... listen... our earth... or heavens... our weather... our very lives need a knight in shinning armor... needs someone... you Hillary... please change... fight to save our world... heal our planet Hillary... heal us all with this Viking heart of yours... join Al Gore... join the movement to save the planet... President Obama needs your spirit to ward off this global catastrophe of rising seas, dying forest, famine, drought and plague... he needs you... our country needs you... we all need you to heal our planet now... Hillary... heal this world and you will heal yourself... good job... now win a war we all can be proud of you for... and remember... "If wishes were horses than beggars would ride and if turnips were watches I would wear one by my side" AtomicZ...

i said she should press on. i still don't know obama's record, all his talks...

it is not over until it is over...

It is spring, and Petersburg and Richmond have fallen. General Lee has embarked on a futile march to attenpt a link up with Joe Johnston. General Grant is now at full strength and can easily absorb losses in West Virginia and Kentucky. Five Forks is looming, and Appomattox shall inevitably follow. It is over.

Not yet...My state has still not voted yet..
The race is too close to call..
With the Clintons we will get an experienced team.
We need experience, someone that can step in without a learning curve..We will gain that with Clinton, after 8 years of experience in the white house, we will have two people who can start from day one in working to help this country out of the mess the current administration has put us in..
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I've read most of the comments here, and I'm amazed at the general stupidity and lack of vision of the american people. It seem that if some people didn't have their pettiness, they would have nothing at all. Unfortunatly the punishment for being stupid with your vote is George Bush. He has the lowest approval rating of any president in american history, and well deserved, yet there are a considerable number of people here that would vote for 4 more years of the living hell we've been going through, rather than take a chance on a young idealist. The last idealist we had was John Kennedy, and is the man responsible for putting a man on the moon, because he had an idealistic vision, and he set the goal. No one has "experience" at being president until he or she has been one, and the only commander in chief threshold is on the steps of the capital when one takes the oath of office. A presidents job is not to have experience at being president, but to have vision and good judgment, and the ability to lead by motivating others. Presidents don't write legislation, they don't judge court cases, or determine the constitutionality of the laws that are passed. They establish policy through their ability judge the world as it is, and choose the right people to implement the policy. If, like me, you are truly fed up with the intrenched way that things are done in washington, why would you choose someone that is well versed in the way things are done in washington from being there so long. New direction requires new ideas and new ways of doing things. Mark Twain said that to a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Every one I see in washington has a hammer in their hand, except one. A young, relativly inexperienced african american, with good judgment and vision. WE have the ability to help him change the world, if we can find in ourselvs the courage to invest in the idealism that most of us have had not felt in a long time. I can't take any more of the way things are. I'm ready to throw the dice.

Hillary should quit the race since she has already established herself to be the best bet for the democrats in 2012. Anyway, I really think McCain will defeat Obama comes November.

YES, I repeat, yes it is finally time for Senator Clinton to make a gracious exit.

The gas-tax pandering was the last straw for me.

Let her have Kentucky/West VA as a consolation prize, then she should concede after losing Oregon later this month.

That way her ego is salved and we can get on with the general election.

Enough is ENOUGH!

Obama arrogantly states that Clinton supporters will vote for him. THAT WILL
NOT HAPPEN!

Even if obama is the nominee. And even if Hillary SAYS she will support him, her supporters WILL NOT.

Obama and his gang may manage to BUY the nomination but he CAN NOT BUY Hillary Clinton supporters.

There WILL be a huge grass-roots movement of Hillary supporters who WILL stay home in Novemeber or vote for Mccain. Either way you slice it.... We WILL NOT let obama get elected.

That, my friends... IS the WILL of the people.

jane, aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!! My eyes hurt now! Will you please turn off your caps lock!

I don't trust her. She is willing to do any thing to go back to the White House including selling her husband.

Any one can bet with me for 10-to-1 if Obama win Nov election ?

Come on be real

Posted by: No-one-Nam | May 7, 2008 12:04 PM

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I am betting 100-to-1 that Obama will be the next president. The Bush presidency is terrible and I believe that Americans do not want to continue on that same track. All that McCain has to offer, is more of the same. His age and health will be additional factors that Americans will consider.

I love this COL. A.M.Khajawall. I've seen this posting a couple times now. Sir, I do respect what you're saying, I'm just wondering where you got this greatgrand thing from. Well; nevermind me. I suppose you're entitled.

And you're right, anyway. It is a great, grand nation.

Did I miss something?????

Did Hillary not win a Primary last night??

Oh, I see -- this is yet another instance when political factions are trying to tell U.S. Citizens what to do.

I am STILL FOR HILLARY. If Hillary is not on the Presidential ticket AS PRESIDENT - then I will vote for John McCain.

MEDIA - Stop trying to patronize me.

Blondshag is JakeD

As a Hillary supporter, I agree that she should withdraw. Better she do it with some sense of dignity and get working toward re-uniting this party. I have been skeptical but supportive of her decision to remain in so far, and I resented the Obama team's earlier suggestions that she should withdraw. The early press coverage of Obama was incredibly unbalanced and she wasn't given a fair shot. I was also quite uncomfortable with the way the primaries were stacked this round (small, tending red states and caucus states going early). All that was enough for me to be persuaded that she desered a little more time. But she's had the time and it's time to let him take the nomination.

Having said that, I remain as concerned about Obama as I was on the day I voted for Hillary. And it would go a long way toward healing if the Obama fans would stop attacking (and calling racist) anyone who so much as asks whether their candidate can do the job. The fact that something as stupid as the Wright affair attracted so much attention was evidence to how little people actually know about Obama. Even the slightest evidence of something counter to people's view of him is enough to shake their faith. That and the fact that he isn't sweeping these most recent states concerns me for the general election.

But this is one Hillary supporter who vows to support Obama in November.

She wants to exercise the nuclear option on Iran. I believe she is studying the launch codes and sequences now so that she can go nuclear on Obama. Yes, she wants it that bad.

Hey, girls got to have it.

ENOUGH is ENOUGH, I am a clinton supporter and I always have been sense bill was running. It pains me to think that Hillarys path to the presidency has pretty much come to a close. Never the less I am still a DEMOCRAT!!!, and I have a duty. Barack Obama looks like he is are guy, and I hope that each and every soul that calls themselves a DEMOCRAT!!!, sees and understands the big picture. I am a 66 year old white man stuck in my ways. so you can say I don't care for change to much, but I can't be selfish at this point because I have four grandchildren that I love very much, so whatever decision I make, like voting republican in november because my candidate isn't on the ballot affects their futures. People step back and think, things don't always go the way you want them to, and that's okay.

I think Hillary should back out. But let her do with dignity. You Obama kool-aid drinkers are disgusting.

Anyway, I can't wait to see Obama get his butt kicked especially now that he got the endorsement of McGovern. Do you any of you kool-aid drinkers remember 1972?

Probaly not.......McGovern lost in 1972.
Nixon was re-elected to a second-term even after the debacle of Vietman. So all you kum by yah singers......get ready.

The other "race" motivated voters in this election are ingrates...The Clintons have work hard over the years for all minorities and the middle-class. You can have Obama. This garlic nosed-Italian life-long Democrat will vote for McCain or stay home.

I hope Hillary remains in the contest up to, and including, the convention. The more she and Obama tear each other - and the corrupt Democratic party apart - the better it will be for all concerned. John McCain will make a great president, and not only the U.S. but also the entire world will be the better for it.

Keep up the fight Hillary, and do your part in helping John McCain win by an overwhelming margin in November.

Did I miss something, did they each win a primary last night?

Okay, listen.
Florida and Michigan, yes they are part of the United States. Unfortunately, they are included in the part that apparently CAN'T properly follow the rules. Therefore, they don't get to play. They are subject to the penalties attached to the very rules they KNOWINGLY broke. Sorry. Rules are rules...and they were very aware of the rules when they decided to break them.
If that is the only hope your candidate has, well, I'm sorry that it's come to that. Too bad. You can't change the rules at the end of the game, just because it's the only hope you have of winning.
Obama is NOT a terrorist, though some of you would like to think so. Hillary is not a republican, as much as she runs a campain like one.
It would be great to see either one, woman or black man, as president. That would truly mark a new era for the US. Unfortunately, I fear that too many of us can't get passed the fact that someone of a different gender or race may actually be better at being a president than we are (in our obese, ignorant, white-male glory)...or that, heaven forbid, a woman or a black man could be smarter than us.
If anything costs Democrats the general election, that's it.

None of the three are GW. I can tell. They all have the ability to actually think as they speak. No MR/DD in this group of candidates.

The truth is, Hillary can run as long as she thinks she has a shot. That's her business. If she decides she doesn't, she needs to bow out gracefully, and stop flinging mud everywhere on her way out the door.

I admire both candidates. They have been slugging it out for a very long time.

But I have yet to see Obama resort to scare tactics (2004 anyone?) in his campain. I have yet to see Obama drag out issues from the Clinton's past (Whitewater, impeachment, NAFTA).

Obama has no more control over Wright than you do over your crazy uncle that no one likes. Is that his fault? No. Not anymore than your uncle is your fault.

There's no reason to resort to name calling. Any of the three would make the next four years significantly better than the last eight...Some more so than others.

The key here is that you should all look around you. Instead of seeing the person across from you, who doesn't agree with you on .001% of the issues you find important, see that same person as someone who totally agrees with you on the other 99.99%. Maybe you should work together instead of separating yourselves. That's the real problem with the US.
None of us will swallow our egotistical pride and embrace the pride that comes with acting like a decent human being.

Did I say I was any better than you? No. But at least I'm trying.

Shame on us.

I AM SAD THAT AMERICA IS STILL DIVIDED BY RACE. I BELIEVE THAT THE CLINTON'S HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THIS WEAKNESS IN OUR SOCIAL HISTORY. OBAMA DID NOT ENTER THE RACE CARD. THE CLINTONS DID AND CONTINUED TO PERPETUATE IT THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN. HER CAMPAIGN DURING THESE LAST FEW WEEKS WAS ONLY MISSING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG ON THE TOP OF THE PICK-UP TRUCK. WHICH PART OF OBAMA'S RACE DON'T YOU LIKE? HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS. HE KNOWS WHAT THE CLINTON'S ARE DOING. HE DOES NOT PLAY THE GAME. THE RACE BATERS HAVE INTRODUCED STEREOTYPE BEHAVIOR, HAVE USED CODE WORDS AND HAVE GENERALLY INSULTED BLACK AMERICANS. THE WORST PART IS THAT THE BLACK AMERICANS ACTUALLY LIKED THE CLINTONS. WE CALLED VERNON JORDAN BILL'S COVER AND RUNNING MATE. WE WERE NOT DISLOYAL TO HIM OR HER IN THEIR TIME OF TROUBLE. WE LIKED THEM EVEN THOUGHT NONE OF US BLACKS CAN THINK OF A SINGLE THING THEY DID FOR US. HE COULD HAVE PUT A BLACK WOMAN ON THE SUPREME COURT BUT DIDN'T. WHAT GAVE OBAMA THE BLACK VOTE WAS THE CLINTON'S BETRAL BY PULLING THE RACE CARD. I WAS OFFENDED WHEN HILLARY TRIED TO SPEAK SOUTHERN DIALECT WHEN MEETING WITH BLACK AUDIENCES. THAT WAS PANDERING. IT MADE ME WONDER WHAT WAS SAID BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. AMERICA DO NOT LET YOURSELVES BECOME DIVIDED. WE HAVE ENOUGH ENEMIES. I BELIEVE THE CLINTONS HAVE A BOMB TO DROP ON OBAMA AT THE AUGUST CONVENTION.IT MAY NOT BE TRUE BUT IT WILL COME TOO LATE FOR HIM TO DEFEND HIMSELF. WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN HIM AND WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE CHANGES GOOD FOR AMERICA. ALSO REMEMBER THAT IF OBAMA WINS, THEIR IS STILL AN ALL WHITE SUPREME COURT, AN ALL WHITE SENATE AND A MAJORITY WHITE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. I BELIEVE THEY WILL NEVER GIVE HIM THE AUTHORITY THEY GAVE BUSH OR WOULD GIVE HILLARY. HE WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF ENDING THE WAR AND BRINGING OUR TROOPS HOME BECAUSE WHAT HE SAYS IS WHAT HE DOES. HE CAN BE TRUSTED. I DO BELIEVE THAT EVERYTIME HILLARY AND MCCAIN RATTLE THE WAR DRUMS, THE PRICE OF OIL GOES UP. I THINK OBAMA WILL RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES AND THROUGH DIPLOMACY AND NEGOTIATIONS BRING DOWM THE PRICE OF OIL AND END THIS WAR. DON'T LET RACISM SPOIL THE BIG PICTURE. THINK FOR YOURSELF AND DON'T BE SUCKERED.

Why is that most of the negative attacks even on this blog come from Clinton and McCain supporters?

Obama supporters show your class to the end. Don't get pulled into thier games. As Obama supporters we welcome a good challege.

One beat down is almost complete. McCain is next. I cannot wait until McCain's free pass is over. Obama's about to get medievel.

What do McCain and Clinton have in common with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines?

They are all Running Scared. I can even hear Micheal MacDonald singing, "Sweet Freedom."

so please all the men chauvinists out there, lighten up and give women a chance.

Posted by: Anne-Marie | May 7, 2008 12:21 PM
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Anne-Marie, I have absolutely no problem with a woman as a president. I'm all for equality...equal pay, opportunities, treatment... I hope that in my lifetime (I am now 24) I get to see that. I hope that in my lifetime I get to see a female president.

That being said, just because Hillary is a woman running for the presidency doesn't mean she is the RIGHT woman for the job. She has decent policies (policies that are nearly identical to Obama's) but there is one thing you need to consider...she acts as if the nomination is SUPPOSED to be hers, as if she deserves it...as if she has paid her dues and now it's time for her pay day.

I don't know about you, but whether it is a man or a woman, black or white, if someone is running for president and feels that they should win because it is their turn...I'm sorry, I cannot support that person.

Again. I really, truly, honestly hope in my lifetime I get to see a female president...hell, I hope I get to see multiple female presidents. I just don't want one of those female presidents to be Hillary. Nothing sexist, racist, elitest, or bitter about it. I simply don't think she is the right person for the job.

I highly suggest you choose your candidate based on their policies and based on their ATTITUDE, not their sex. That makes you just as bad as someone who WOULDN'T vote for her because she is a woman.

If Hillary does quit before the convention, her action will most likely infuriated the very constituencies that Democrats will need if they have a shot at the Presidency: Women over the age of 40, single mothers, seniors 60 and above, Reagan Democrats, the Michigan and Florida delegates, Hispanic and Asian-Americans. The pollsters and political pundits have underestimated their power and voting preferences. The DNC has basically ignored them, while intellectuals "bobos" have been contemptuous of them. Obama may claim victory for the interim, but the real test will come after the convention. He needs need Hillary in his corner. And without her on the ticket in some major capacity (either as VP or the promise of major Cabinet post), he stands very little chance of winning in November given his status as a Junior Senator with very little political capital and a "painfully-thin" legislative track record. Now is time for some serious "horse-trading" among Democratic power-brokers; otherwise they can "kiss" this election good-bye.

I was an early and supporter of Clinton. She lost my enthusiasm in the Pennsylvania campaign. Not it is past time for her to withdrawn, or be shown the door by the super delegates--following the voters.

MI and FL happened in part due to races being determined too early on and many states having had no say in the decision. Hillary won't win, but if she can afford it, we should let the process continue so every state has a say in the decision. Continuing may also very well have an effect on the planks at the convention.

Only Senator Clinton, her supporters, her surrogates and the republicans, her other supporters, are saying she is more electable than Senator Obama. We forget that before their was a Jeremiah Wright, Senator Obama beat the other two candidates in every poll. Those days are coming back. Why? Because the other two candidates are showing America exactly what they are, old school politics that will DO NOTHING for the working American. Maybe Senator Clinton would do a little something for the working American if she was POTUS, but McCain? Are your kidding? In the worse time of his campaign, Senator Obama won decisively in North Carolina and almost pulled off the upset in Indiana. Lets not forget the narrow loss in Pennslyvania. Imagine how he would have done with no Reverend Wright or the focus on the bugled description of rural voters. What needs to happen is a coming together, democrats, independents and republicans that are fed up with the way this government has been ran the last 7 years, to KEEP THE THIRD TERM OF BUSH, JOHN MCCAIN, OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

I think it's time for Clinton to step down. I don't see any real value in prolonging the election at this point. I will never vote for Obama as the Democratic nominee but I'm willing to concede that he is the Democratic nominee.

Hey AnneMarie,

You are an air head!!!!!!!!!! Careful you witch, your colors are showing

Posted by AnnaMarie: As one of the pesky 50% of the democrats that are not convinced in any way shape or form that Obama is an electable person I will write Hillary Clinton's name in as an independent before voting for him. Read the things he has said, the people he associates with.

You should pay more attention to what Hilary says and see the hands of her husband in the pockets of every foreign gov't, and up the skirt of every other woman. Perhaps the lies and scandal of close to (2) decades are palatable to you.

Dear Northern Observer,

Bonus for the use of "provincial colloquialisms." I'm smiling at a little decent conversation on this rather than a lot of this venom and vitiol we're getting in here. Of course, I hope you understand with my "knock the cr@p out of you" statement, I meant that Mr. Obama is right to want to speak with friends and enemies, but that doesn't make him weak or mean he would not defend the country if need be. Notice I said "defend" and "if need be" -- take that in the context of Iraq.

I do support Obama... to an extent, not rapidly. I've found his answers he's been giving honest, even when it hurts him. I respect that. Regarding "self-proclamations of virtue," that's what I'm worried about with Hillary... she acts like she's some sort of working-class American, understands their ordeal, and that's nonsense and insulting. She's as far from that as one could get, and seems to serve self more than anything. That worries me.

I've watched them both, Obama and Clinton, speak here in D.C. in Congress. They're both capable professionals. I think, at this point, it's Obama. That's where I am.

Take care up there.

Hi AnnaMarie and %50,

You want Hillary to stay, so does Rush and Rove. Do the math, the Republicans had the brains to stop beating each other up when it became apparent that McCain had it won. Wake up, Barack has a lead that now is impossible for Hillary to beat unless we get into some real Shenanigans, and then our candidate will be more beat up than need be, Wake up and smell that Bama. He is electable if you just say so, the republiklans even get that much Looking forward to working with you all

I am wondering how a "blue-collar" woman can loan herself $5 Million. What steel factory was her family working in?

As a Black-man, we expect there to be racism and extra scrutiny for the first legitimate black presidential candidate. But this process has shown us all (whites included) how deep it really runs. Jeremiah Wright's comments, not Barrack's have dominated the news. The Underground guy that Barrack came in contact with. Bill Clinton set all of his associates free from jail off of LIFE sentences, yet the media is not interested in that. All of these political show analysts are aimed at Obama with "sniper fire". No one mentioned the remarks that Condoleeza Rice made about racism. It was a subtle statement, but should have garnered more press attention. It was also the truth.

AmeriKKKa has been racist forever and always will. And Blacks still love the country hoping for change. But most people will not believe us.

Florida and Michigan votes should NOT be counted.

There are rules and regulations to everything we do in life and why should Hillary Clinton be an exception to that rule?

This is the problem in a nutshell with the Clinton's they think that THEY are the exception to every rule that all the rest of us law abiding citizens of America have to obey.

Over 17+ million people (white, black, latino, Italian, asian, jewish, etc) have cast their votes and voted for Obama. To insinuate that all 17+ million voters were ALL black is lunacy.

To Filmex:

Don't you mean "The Decisionatativor".

Arthur Burris wrote: WELL OF LAST NIGHT THE DEMOCRATS I KNOW HAVE LOST SEVERAL VOTES. I HAVE BEEN A LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT BUT AS OF LAST NIGHT I WILL BE VOTING FOR A REPUBLICAN THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE TIME OF 74 YEARS. I CAN NOT VOTE FOR AN ARAB FOR PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.AS. NO WAY. I RATHER HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF LORD HELP ME G. W. BUSH THEN AN ARAB THAT DOESN NOT EVEN LIKE OUR COUNTRY. THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS...GOD BLESS AMERICA AGB

I'm confused. What arab is he talking about? There isn't any arab running for president. Oh, wait a minute. Could he possibly be referring to Obama? Obama, the american and christian? Calling Obama an arab? What are you some kind of idiot? Calvin Coolidge had his picture taken in an indian war bonnet. That doesn't make him a native american. I'm a republican, so won't be voting for Obama anyway, but you really offend me. Wake up and move into the 21st century. I was taught to respect my elders but I have no respect for this idiocy regardless of age. On one thing I can agree, God Bless America!! Where even idiots can express themselves freely.

Posted by AnnaMarie: As one of the pesky 50% of the democrats that are not convinced in any way shape or form that Obama is an electable person I will write Hillary Clinton's name in as an independent before voting for him. Read the things he has said, the people he associates with.

Listen to the things Hilary says, and see the hands of her husband in every foreign gov'ts pocket, and up every other woman's skirt. I suppose the lies and scandal of close to (2) decades is palatable for you.

James wrote:

Count the MI & FL votes to the toal at the end of primary, then the person with the most vote moves on.

My comment:
But that's not the system. Its not a popular vote system and if that's your ultimate test you are disenfranchising all of the caucus states where the turnout is lower and you are giving the most weight to open primary states where you have more then democrats running. The reason you use delegates is that they are allocated based on an agreed to system and then each State decides how to select them.

As for counting Michigan and Florida votes, to use your basketball analogy, counting Michigan votes would be like counting baskets scored during halftime where the other team was in the locker room and both teams had agreed that the baskets would not count and counting Florida votes would be like counting baskets scored during a timeout when one team was huddled around their coach. At least they were on the court at the time but they weren't, by the rules of the game, playing.

Run, Hillary, run! Loan, Hillary, loan!

Spend it all. Go back to the Senate despised and broke.

Continue this Don Quixote self-gratification. Continue to rail about Obama being unable to "close the deal", when you had a 30-point lead in every state of the Union last Sept. and continue to trail in contests won, popular vote, financial support and delegates awarded.

Continue to claim that Indiana was the "decider", while you look and sound more like "The Decider" we have had to put up with in the White House the past 8 years.

Wrong on Iraq, wrong on Iran, wrong on the gas tax, wrong to play Steve Forbes and self-fund your own campaign when the people refuse to, wrong to continue to harm the Dems chances in November.

But, run, Hillary, run! Maybe you can change your ever-morphing campaign slogan to "Even a broken clock is right twice a day".

It's troubling to read comments from fellow Democrats bad-mouthing Obama's electability in a General Election. Such remarks have been followed by "if he is the nominee then I'll stay home on election day."

To hear/read such comments is jaw-dropping. The rationale for such remarks is so blindly thoughtless that I'm amazed the remarks came from people who have the privilege to vote at all! To decide to stay home on election day is certainly one way to ruin Obama's, or any candidate's electability in the General Election. I hope that such remarks are empty threats or else the country will likely suffer another four years of poor governance. The question all democrats should ask themselves is how will we feel if McCain wins in the Fall because those who are disappointed with the outcome of "this" democratic process do nothing to prevent him from winning? For certain, we will feel like a BIGGER bunch of losers if our pettiness allows that to happens.

Men HAVE been asked and HAVE conceded races where they were not winning. PERIOD.

it's not about Hillary being a woman. it's about her being the wrong woman. she is not built for this job. she can't run a campaign on Day One, but claims she's THE candidate to be ready on Day One of Presidency. it doesn't hold water. relative to Obama, she lacks good judgment, which IMO is the job in a nutshell.

I get so bitter and angry when I hear of people trying to put Hillary down. Hillary realizes that the extreme far left of the Democratic Party -- bitter, angry leftists like me who read firedoglake and are secure in their gender identity -- will have the final say on who gets elected this fall. The reality based community of socialist malcontents is behind you Hill. You go, girl!

Hillary if she has any dignity at all, should bow out now. But after her tactics that she has displayed during these primaries, she doesn't have any.Now her new reasoning is that Barack doesn't get the "white" voters.Just another piece of garbage to throw out in her pathetic attempt to paint him as unelectable. Doesn't she realize that states like Wisconsin, Iowa, and Indiana have low black populations? And to another poster..how is it racist for blacks to vote for blacks, when previously they have supported whites? If that were true it would make any white person voting for whites racist.

Both are fundamentally flawed candidates, her less so, because she is presented by the media as more centrist.

Why are 91% of black voters voting for Obama?

Why are 2/3rds of Hillary supporters willing to jump party lines if Obama receives the nomination, but not the other way around?

No brainer he won NC, one third of the voters were black and as mentioned before 91% of blacks vote for him for no other reason than he is black.

Sort of ironic, because when he ran and lost his bid for the house of representatives in 2000 he was characterized as being "not black enough for Black American leaders." Just do a google search, there are tons of articles on it.

McCain is just centrist enough to garner votes from both parties, this cannot be said about Obama. He will get no republican votes, party members who don't like McCain will simply stay home. Case in point, McCain is speaking in front of the NRA today. Do you think Obama will ever be invited to speak in front of the NRA?

I think the Wright situation was floated to take the emphasis and media glare off his wife who shows nothing but glaring contempt for white people, and American society in general.

Don't think for 2 seconds that Nascar watching, gun owning, small business working lunch boxers won't be determining the next president. We're still a predominately rural society and BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA will polarize them in droves come November. Our society isn't ready for a black president, even one who presents himself as multi-ethnic.

It's the reason why HRC is still in the running. That and the fact that people remember that the 90's were in fact a very good time for our country.

It's starting to look like Republican 4 more years

Dear Fellow Americans,

Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical and substantial
"Challenges" in coming,
months, years, and decades to come.
It is very essential that we pick out our next
President on following criteria in mind.

1. A candidate with "Vision and Mission".

2. A candidate with " Stable Character and Integrity"
.

3. A candidate with "Presidential Temperament" and
"stable Judgment".

4. A candidate with "little "Washington" exposure"
and
"real connectedness with New Voters".

5. A candidate who "Inspires us up" rather than
"Tears us down".

6. A candidate not based on sexism, racism, and
ageism.

In my professional and personal opinion, the only
candidate who has the above qualities and
characteristics and is also cool, calm, and collected
is Senator Obama.

As an independent registered voter since 1980. I voted
for Carter, voted for Reagan, voted for First Bush,
and second Bush in 2000 and In the process last
interest in Washington politics as usual and I
stopped voting.Not a good idea under any circumstance
particularly at present.

This time we can not afford to stay on side lines and
let Washington stay the same.We can not afford our
Greatgreat Nation to become less than what we are and
can be.

We need to send clear and candid message to the world
and some 24 hour partisan hateful media. These media
outlets are trying to deprive, dupe, and derail us
from getting it right this time.

They are trying there best to deny us better rather
than bitter future. { Our Greatgrand Nations people
are persistently and constantly subjected to
Psychological terrorism" without their knowledge thru
these hateful partisan media outlets.

We Americans are should not and would not to allow
them
psychologically terrorized, traumatized and silence us
this time.

I am sure that we will get it right this
time and elect Senator Obama our next President. let
us not get dragged down into racism, sexism and
ageism.

Let us remember that our Greatgrand is constituted of
family, friends,fellowships, faith, funds,foundation,
fun, and future with fairness and freedom and without
fear or favor.

We can not afford to lose any of above. Let us stand
up, be counted, save, build our Greatgrand Nation for
centuries to come and regain our world economic, and
power status back.

God Bless our Great grand Nation and its diverse
people.

Our Greatgrand nation needs present and future
stability, security, safety,sustained progress and
restoration of our due status in this perilous Global
World at the all levels.

Yours sincerely,

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Forensic Psychiatrist.
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.

Mike wrote:

Hillary should not quit! She won just as many contests as Obama did last night.

My Comment:

So what is today's Clinton standard?

Is it the popular vote? If so, Obama swamped Clinton yesterday.

Is it the number of delegates won? If so, Obama won yesterday.

Is it the "size of the State"? Is so, Obama won yesterday.

Oh, its the "All States are Equal" argument now and thus it was a tie. Interesting how Clinton has been arguing that all states are not equal and now that the only win was the smaller state and she needs something on which to base her spin, the argument is now "all states are equal".

(And the "Indiana is in Obama's backyard argument doesn't really fly. After all, who won Connecticut?)

Mrs Clinton, go home now.

I love all the insane rantings on here, especially when thy type in all caps, as if bigger letters can turn their ignorance into truths. Obama can win the general election, so can McCain, so can anyone who is running. The point is you should stop trying to be soothsayers by screaming from the top of your keyboards that you know the future. None of you idiots know the future, none of you halfwits can honestly say that one candidate can or will, can't or won't win the general election. It hasn't happened yet morons.

I can't believe anybody is cheerleading for any of these candidates. All three are pretty pathetic. McCain will probably win in the end, because his age makes him seem more presidential and he is the least controversial.

In spite of all their talent and caring about programs this country desperately needs, the Clintons' sense of entitlement and arrogance made it possible for the Bush debacle of the past eight years and all it has cost us in blood, treasure and credibility in the eyes of the world. Now that same sense of entitlement and arrogance may once again hand this election to the Republicans. If Hillary is truly a patriot who loves her country, she will put it's future above her own personal sense of ambition. It is time to gracefully bow out.

Umm, Blondshag... I think you've hit the caffeine a little too much today. No need to YELL at everyone. You wrote (at some point in that tirade):

"His real name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA -- what is the problem with his real name," after sticking it in there repeatedly. Obviously, you have a problem with it. Hate those towel-heads, Blondshag? Hate them sand n***ers?

My name's Aaron. You'll find it popular in modern American and other English-speaking countries, Hebrew culture, and Arabic as well.

What's wrong with my name, Blondshag?

Hillary Clinton must know by this time that she is the drag on Democrats, whose foolishness may make McCain winner in the November Election.
It is hard for the stuburn lady to bowdown but that is what written on the wall. If she cannot read it, at least Bill should read it and tell her that enough is enough and let go home and enjoy our retired life making millions more in writing phony books and delivering phony speeches.

She had no business being considered in the first place. Her lack of integrity would be another mark against the USA for the rest of the world to sneer at. I'll have to vote Republican again. The Democrats do not seem to be able to field a viable candidate....again.

America, land of the free white man. Imagine a woman or even worse a coloured person in the Oval Office, shock horror. Gee you voted Bush is twice just goes to show how smart Americans are and why you are the joke of the world. Export a few more jobs, buy another SUV and sit back dumb and happy, while shopping for made in China at Wal Mart.

"..I still want the country Hillary lives in .. it has all 50 states in it ... if it isnt obvious to people how truly ruthless obama is by blocking Michigan and Florida ...those states ( that is two states with millions of people and then he has the hubris to talk about how much he loves this country if they vote for him) then the people deserve to have another four years of the same .. a president who really doesnt care about anything but himself ; because if you look closely obama resembles bush more than any other candidate ... then they deserve what they get .. and if you miss the irony of the gas prices exploding again right after the results of the latest primary results .. then the next time you pull up to the gas station .. remember you voted for the guy who voted for Cheneys energy bill , and who has NO plan to go up against the oil people in this country .....happy summer everyone

Posted by: Swannie | May 7, 2008 11:17 AM
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Oh, Puhleeeeeeeze! Florida and Michigan screwed themselves KNOWINGLY when they voted eary. Your issue is with the state democratic parties. Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan , and many people stayed home and didn't vote BECAUSE they knew it wouldn't count.

"Blocking" the seating of Florida and Michigan? Hardly. That and the rest of your post is pure Clinton logic.

Typical nonsensical tripe.

God, I had enough of all the Hillary bashing. do you guys get a kick out of it every time you write an article saying Hillary should quit or an article bashing her and putting her down? I swear I have never seen so much women hatred in any other western country I have been in. Only here in America. can you lighten up and give women a chance? why are you guys so against women in this country?
first of all, she has all the rights to do whatever she wishes, after all it is a free country. and she has the rights to stay in the race, she is only one hundred and something delegates behind. plus Florida and Michigan must count, and if those count she has the lead.
so please all the men chauvinists out there, lighten up and give women a chance.

The concern with Obama is that Wright showed he is unable to manage his associations, that he is basically of weak character. Just look at G. W. Bush to see the cost of such a weakness. We don't need another one like him.

Hillary should not quit! She won just as many contests as Obama did last night. Let all 50 states have their say in this process before we decide a winner. I am tired of all the Obama supporters and Obama cheerleading writers saying she should quit. Let the voters from all 50 states have their say in
this process before we coronate a nominee

To the many people who have vowed to vote for McCain if Hillary looses simply suggests they are not good sports or downright racists. In this modern era to still hold on to bigoted views tells the world a lot about America's lip service to democracy. Many of Obama's supporters are willing to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee. That tells a lot about who their leader is. How anybody can tell what kind of President Obama will be smells fishy to me. Bill you were a good president. It's time to tell your wife,enough and help heel the rift in the Democratic party now. If she is meant to be President of America,it may happen another time. Don't weaken the party's chances of winning the White House.

Hillary should withdraw now, she can only stay and damage the fall ticket. I'd be happy to hear her announce also that she doesn't want the second spot on the ballot and would rather remain in the senate.

McCain all the way. If the Democrates were serious about this election, they would have run real canadates not either Clinton or Obama. Get REAL.

In my opinion Hillary would make a better president than obama.

IT'S LAUGHABLE. HOW CAN OBAMA WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF WOMEN, HISPANICS, LATINOS AND ASIANS. LET CLYBURN, FARAKKAN, PASTOR WRIGHT, AND THE BLACK COMMUNITY SUCK TO OBAMA. THE BLACKS AND OBAMA "MOONIES" ARE VOTING WITHOUT THEIR BRAINS. HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY AND IF YOU DON'T WIN THIS TIME, THEN RUN FOR HOUSE MAJORITY POST AND KICK NANCY PELOSI OUT OF THE HOUSE!!

Karl: Perfect summary. Democrats today hold to a tradition that started only with McGovern and included only the disastrous Carter as a real world example, B. Clinton being a centrist exception. The party of Kennedy and Truman really is better represented by John McCain.

hilary must get out now, but don't feel sorry for her' she can always go back to being on the wal-mart board and add to their millions that she "loaned" her dishonest campaign.

To all who think that Obama is unelectable, just wait until he eats McCain's lunch in the debates. Obama is a well-spoken down to earth individual that is trying to take away power from the power elite in Washington. He is not completely entrenched in the Washington status quo, and this is why I am not worrying about his experience. Consider that George W. Bush has failed miserably at every business opportunity he had touched, yet he was elected. How did his experiences help us?

As far as Hillary is concerned stay, go, whatever, because at this point it's almost mathematically impossible for her to win. Obama will be happy to keep winning states and super delegates. Obama has weathered the storm and put a lot of things the Republicans would have attacked him on out in the open. With the shock value of these attacks eliminated, any persistence on these issues will only prove that the GOP (or Hillary for that matter) are going to talk less about the issues and more about BS that they want the general public to believe will help this country. (I.E. Obama's character) When one politician attacks another on character it seems to me that this is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Hillary has run a good fair fight. If it had been for Obama I would have supported her. After we have a clear nominee its time for the democrats and the country to support the candidate of the people. We do not need McCain in office. We need to resume being the America that we all idealize, tough when necessary, compassionate to the world, tolerant of different and opposing ideas, and most of all proud. Too many people love this country too much not to be allowed to be proud of it. I am ashamed of the actions of our country over the past 8 years even still I call myself an American. Unfortunately when I think of what this nation as been reduced to, it is hard not to be embarrassed.

In the General Election, I urge all voters to vote based on the issues and their candidates responses, rather than bitterness and jealousy.

With that said, we, the Obama supporters, will take our chances. Three words come to mind when I think about John McCain running against Obama, "Bring it on."

WELL OF LAST NIGHT THE DEMOCRATS I KNOW HAVE LOST SEVERAL VOTES. I HAVE BEEN A LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT BUT AS OF LAST NIGHT I WILL BE VOTING FOR A REPUBLICAN THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE TIME OF 74 YEARS. I CAN NOT VOTE FOR AN ARAB FOR PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.AS. NO WAY. I RATHER HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF LORD HELP ME G. W. BUSH THEN AN ARAB THAT DOESN NOT EVEN LIKE OUR COUNTRY. THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS...GOD BLESS AMERICA AGB

"A large part of Obama's success in primaries has been the voting pattern of non-Democrat African Americans in traditionally republican states."

Non-Democrat African Americans? What, all seven of them?

Re. Ann Dalton's commemts, below

I agree with you completely - it is a matter of principle. If the Democratic Party does not count the votes in Florida and Michigan, it is a party that is not worthy of its name. Also, I'm sure you must know that three other states (Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina) voted earlier than permitted by the rules.

The clinton campaign is broke. She loaned them more more to float in NC and Indiana. She could drag thru WV and KY but for what purpose? If Obama had lost NC even by 1% she will be calling for him to get out of the race. I believe she is just stalemating so she can try to grab a VP spot on Obama's ticket. I hope Nancy Pelosi puts a stop to it! There are better female candidates out there that have done much more for their districts and who have a more trustworthy record. I STILL DON'T TRUST THE CLINTONS AND THEIR SLIMY STAFF.

It's been obvious, almost from the beginning, this election IS ABOUT HILLARY, and not the Democratic Party or, more importantly, the big troubles we face as a country. Her insistence on continuing only supports my observation - this is all about HER and the Clinton legacy.

HRC
Bow to barack .Go and see how to settle with the contributors and face ur court cases .

Hillary, why not run independent

Take a look at president abraham lincoln's experience prior to running for president...

don't let "experience" dictate your vote

My vote for Bannekar. Finally, someone has stated publicly why I determined to vote for Obama rather than Clinton early on. I too remember the very weak, almost non-existent support of John Kerry by the Clintons. When I thought it through and realized they were willing to put the USA through 4 more years of Bush/Cheney in order for her to run for President in '08, it became clear that their narcissim was greater than their love for this country. Way to go, Bannekar! Whether Hillary's motives for staying in are narcisstic/entitlement or whether they are to destroy Obama's chance for general election; this is your last chance Clinton's to show that you have enough decency left to put the good of the country before your own ego(s). Obama can win, if you will get out of the way.

SAY WHAT YOU WANT. MCAIN IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. NO MATTER IF HILLARY OR OBAMA GET NOMINATED. MARK MY WORDS

Hillary should keep running and running and running until everyone agrees that she is neither worthy of the presidential nomination nor the VP nomination
John McCain is 100% disabled and his body is wracked with pain. We treat pain in this country with medication. The same medication that his wife has been accused of stealing. Although, she completed court order treatment, anyone will tell you that usually that d oesn't work
McCain is not very good at thinking on his feet Debates will be a laugh a minute
What about that Ron Paul guy?
Think Obama and Ron Paul might make a winning ticket.

Ditto... My friends, relatives, and I who are independents, are among those who are going to vote for McCain if Hillary Clinton is not going to run either as a Democrat or Independent. SORRY, Democrats of North Carolina, etc., etc. If you want your party to win, you are not doing it right. Even Sen. McGovern, a most respected statesman, has said that Hillary Clinton would be a better president than her husband and you know that the 90s were the best we ever had, SO, why on earth do you even think of taking a chance on an unproven candidate...you could have even chosen Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Richardson, people I could trust as proven by their records. If none of these people with good intentions and have devoted their lives to fighting for you, how could you even think that a young inexperienced (in life as a whole) individual could make the changes he is promising you. But, of course, his change is not well defined...who knows, may be he will change the traffic signs.

Come on people. Let's get back in focus here. We've lived through seven plus years of Bush for crying out loud! We've got to get past this infighting, just suck it in and consider what's been happening to our country and how our future as a nation is about to change - maybe.
It looks like, for better or worse we may wind this up having Obama. Well, so be it. At least he's no Bush or McCain, thank God. And this cry baby idea that any true liberal thinking person would switch to a completely oposite direction to spite other members of your own party is, frankly a little repulsive to me. It reminds me of a child holding it's breath because it didn't get it's way. Pathetic. We can't have eight more years of corporations controlling the White House. There is much at stake here and we have to be united. Forget these petty sideshow issues. Let's remember the true issues here. And their not the junk CNN, FOX and MSNBC feed us for their ratings.

Hillary's experience is way overblown. As far as her chance to beat Mccain are as good as Obama's.
Now comes General election. Let't talk Hillary.

Elitist Status.
1) 15+ years as a corporate lawyer for prestigious law firm defending walmart, tyson, and other corporate giants.
2) First lady in Arkansas
3) First lady in white house
4) it goes on and on and on...Give me a break...

Hillary can not relate to the average person even if she wanted to... She is worth over 100 million. She has no clue about the struggles of regular working folks.

This is Hillary lying.
Iam a true working American. I worry about paying the bills, about what the recession is doing to my future, about the value of my home dropping almost monthly. I worry about health care, social security and what is happening to the middle class in this country.

Hillary Clinton is about as far from being a middle class American as you can get. Hillary Clinton and John McCain are the rich elitists in this campaign.

Get real...

Hillary should stay in all the way to the Hill.

These old & tired pundits should go in for a horse-farm rejuvination.

Posted by: ALM | May 7, 2008 10:56 AM
...I also want to add that Michelle Obama is not First Lady material--she would make a mockery of that position with her negativity toward this country and her lack of patriotism.

Much as both of them want us to think otherwise, they do not understand the largest percentage of Americans: the blue-collar workers and the "underprivileged".
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Hey KLM,
You may not be reading now but, you bring up a very good point. What are we saying to the men, woman and children of our nation [and to the rest of the world] if we vote the disciples of Rev. Wright and the compatriots of U.S. terrorist Bill Ayers -- the anti-American Obamas -- into the White House. This will be both a desecration of the presidential position and a desecration of that historic building.

Dee,

Please do not blame Obama for what his previous pastor said. We are not responsible for what other people say or think. My pastor have said things that I didn't agree with but it was not a reflection on me. I listened to one woman last night talking about she is a white woman in NC and she is not going to vote for Obama because of a relationship that he had over 20 years ago. What in the world is that. I could clearly hear in her voice that that wasn't the reason that she was not voting for him. People will come up with every reason in the world not to vote for him by blaming him for everybody else's mistakes, everybody else's views, or whatever else they can think of. It's not fair to judge someone by what others say. Don't be fooled by the media and the other haters out there who has their own agenda. If you are going to support Obama, support him no matter what. You see Hillary has lied to all of America on a number of things and her supporters are still behind her no matter what lies she tells. Also, her pastor was convicted for fondling a little girl. Is she being held responsible for what her pastor did - no. And, she shouldn't be because it wasn't her. The same goes for Obama. All I ask is that you think smart and not with emotions like so many others are doing

I find it funny that Dems Idolize John F. Kennedy but despise John McCain. They are like 2 peas in a pod when you compare their positions on national defence and domestic policies.

John McCain is closer to the Democrat Party of John F. Kennedy than either of the 2 Democrat contestants. Which makes me wonder if what Regan said realy was true...

"I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me"

I don't know were that party has gone, but I am not going looking for them, if they want me they need to come and find me. Find me in my beliefs and in values.... That goes for the Far Right too, somewhere I know John McCain is not sitting.

In fact, The country is looking for someone to bring this country together, but they think they can find that in two candidates on the left that refuse to work with the right. And we have a candidate who says he will work with the left and right, and has shown time and time again that is what he does.

I would challenge anyone to find me a conservative bill that Hillary or Obama has cosponsored with a republican. You cant do it. But I can name three liberal bills that McCain has Cosponsored with Dems... McCain Kennedy, McCain Leiberman, McCain Feihngold. And you complain because he supports tax cuts. give me a break.

What a discouraging spectacle.

Had these two candidates agreed at the outset to make sure the Democrats won, the party could have swept the White House and Congress and begun to undo the egregious damage done by George Bush.

Now they've drawn so much blood and created such ill will that the GOP actually has a chance.

Howard Dean should resign today.

Any one can bet with me for 10-to-1 if Obama win Nov election ?

Come on be real

Clyde you are such a racist , its old farts like you that makes me feel ashamed to be a senior, you should really be proud for the direction this country has accomplished for the last 8 years, you dont have any thrust, in the younger generation because you are happy the way Washington has been running this country as business as usual step aside and make room for the next generation and by the way check yourself int an old folks home with Hillary

If all states voted in a similar fashion (primary v. caucus), we would have had a nominee in February.
Obama has only gotten as far as he has only because of the out of control caucuses. He has given new meaning to the word "stolen". Guerilla tactics!
Even last night there were reports of voter fraud in Lake County, Indiana. It took CNN to press for the release of the votes from this county - apparently there are more absentee votes than there are registered voters in the county. Hummm.....
Amazing that voter chaos is stil rampant in 2008! Amazing that this information has been surpressed by the media?
Obama gets his support from top Dems because they know he is weak (unlike Hillary) and they can (and will) run the White House, just like the Repubs are doing with Bush. But... first he has to get elected and that just won't happen!!!

Come on people. Let's get back in focus here. We've lived through seven plus years of Bush for crying out loud! We've got to get past this infighting, just suck it in and consider what's been happening to our country and how our future as a nation is about to change - maybe.
It looks like, for better or worse we may wind this up having Obama. Well, so be it. At least he's no Bush or McCain, thank God. And this cry baby idea that any true liberal thinking person would switch to a completely oposite direction to spite other members of your own party is, frankly a little repulsive to me. It reminds me of a child holding it's breath because it didn't get it's way. Pathetic. We can't have eight more years of corporations controlling the White House. There is much at stake here and we have to be united. Forget these petty sideshow issues. Let's remember the true issues here. And their not the junk CNN, FOX and MSNBC feed us for their ratings.

Wasn't it strange that the election results from Lake County came in after all of the other counties? Also, wasn't it strange that Hillary won by 2%? This was the margin that Barack was leading by going into the election.

I think that it is the reponsibility of the Justice Department to investigate if the results were tampered with and changed in Hillary's favor.

A win is a win! Even though it is a slim win but it is really a big win when it was a state that she was not even supposed to win. Another fact is that Obama's win is based on the 91% of the Blacks. It is obvious that with this high number of 91%, then it is a race-based vote. He does not win the broad base of the votes. He is still not a general election candidate.

If Florida and Michigan's votes are not counted then it is the leaders and Obama are the one who steals this election from Clinton. The 9% black and the rest of America should be outraged!

hey john Edwards..with every passing day you are becoming less and less prevalent..obama won your state by 230,000 votes..we all have heard you are waiting for a cabinet post..i guess its true

People generally make threats like "we won't vote" but usually in the end, those heat-of-the moment threats mostly disappear and people show up. For the sake of America, I suggest that Hillary bow out and the remaining superdelegates influence but do not decide for her. If she keeps on or is forced out, Florida and Michigan will feel belittled although it was their states' choices to go against party rules. If floriday and Michigan are included, the african american base will feel shorted, a strong base for democrats. If she really believes voters will come for her, become an independent, otherwise, if she keeps this up, kiss future clintons goodbye (ie chelsey and hillary) from DNC point of view, her strumming about florida and michigan will only hurt the party and split it, a party reformation if you will. This is not about best for party, or America, this is about ego, sorry, but true.

Haniel, it's loud mouth punks like you who will destroy the Democratic party.

Once again, I think it is just pathetic the way pro-Obama media companies poison people's minds with nonsense. Truth is: THE RACE IS FAR FROM OVER.

It's pathetic that HRC and her supporters
do not see that she is a nuisance candidate
and is the bane of the party.

96% of blacks voted for who?

too funny

GO HILLARY!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the right president for America.

HILLARY will change America and will change the World as well - Hillary is a very hard worker and Hillary is truly committed to America.

HILLARY is experience, substance, solutions for America and Hillary is ready to do the presidential duties on day one.

HILLARY will do many great things for America.

HILLARY respects the American flag, salutes the American flag, respects the national anthem as well.

It appears that the election continues to be blacks voting for the black candidate.
Superdelegates need to wise up...Barack Hussein Obama has lots of negative items related to him such as Obama's very negative and angry wife, Rev. Wright shouting 'HATE AMERICA' 'HATE WHITES', etc.-his mentor and pastor for twenty years, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko the indicated fund-raiser and possible other things that have not surfaced yet.

America deserves to know the truth about Barack Hussein Obama and that truth might just appear in the near future.

HILLARY - TIME TO TURN THE HEAT UP ON BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. Obama has had it far too easy for far too long -- that include the media as well. The media has given Barack Hussein Obama a free-ride.

Wonder why Obama real name is never used in full display other that BHO as shown yesterday? His real name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - what is the problem with his real name.

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~~HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the true presidential leader.

~~MESSAGE TO BILL CLINTON:
PLEASE STUMP FOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON UNTIL YOU DROP.

AMERICA NEEDS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.

IF NOT HILLARY, AMERICA NEEDS JOHN MCCAIN.

VOTE - "MY AMERICAN MAMA"
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON - PRESIDENT!!!!

YOU GO GIRL!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

..."Besides, we Republicans have enough sound bites from every level of the Democrat organization that we can attack the Democrat Nominee using your own words. And we don't have to take the blame for those words or be called racist or sexist because you said it, not us."

Posted by: Karl | May 7, 2008 11:37 AM
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Correction: Hillary said it, not "us". I'm really happy that you feel so secure and smug, because once the smut rolls out on McBush you repubs will be eating your "operation chaos". Even your revered Lush Rimboob hates McCain. That gorgon Ann Coulter said she would vote Hillary over McCain. There's a very swollen and ripe archive of our own that will come out with a vengeance (no "emotion" intended) when Johnny gets his turn. You're just gonna LOOOOOOOVE it, friend! Stay tuned!

Hillary will go down in shame of her own doing. I supported her and Bill for years, but no more. I'm sure that not only do I speak for many, but for many who initially voted for Hill but have since reconsidered because of her shameful behavior. McCain has a snowball's chance in hell of winning in 2008. Just remember you heard it here first.

propsych, you don't have a clue. It's not a race issue. regardless of the 'name'. I absolutely despise Hillary Clinton but I'll vote for her. Not because she's female, white or any other such garbage. And as for 'knowing' the man, how do YOU know so much about Obama? You don't know what he's going to do if he were elected any more than the rest of us do. I won't vote for McCain either and he's not black.. and notice the 'ideal' running mates that I said I'd vote for in a heartbeat were both black! Rice/Powell. So I guess the race ticket doesn't hold water huh? So think about what you are saying before you say itand get your facts straight. I think Obama is a sneaky underhanded snake in the grass and the lovely photo's published in Time magazine and was taken 9/16/07 at an event in Indianola, Iowa where six Democratic presidential candidates appeared along side obama all saluting the flag except obama, kind of says it all. And yes, respecting this country's flag IS PATRIOTISM AT IT'S FINEST. As a friend of mine once said, Patriotism in Motion!

Dear Aaron M.

I appreciate your opinion, and I thank you for responding in such typical fashion. I just love the sound of such provincial colloquialisms as "high-falutin" and "I'll knock the cr@p out of you."

I also want to thank you for the invitation to ponder your familial dynasty comment. You have a good point, in that you have expressed concern over the fact that a Bush or a Clinton has too often occupied the Rose Garden. I would simply point out, however, that "old style politics" is not the property of anyone named Bush, Clinton, McCain or Obama for that matter. If honest leadership is truly what you desire, or what you offer, then what's in a name? Should it not be said that a rose, or a charlatan, by any other name is still a rose, or a charlatan?

Is it too much to demand that Mr. Obama, his operatives, or his supporters, live up to the promise of truthfulness? It is one thing to ask to be elected because your last name is not Clinton or Bush, it is another to ask to be elected because you are the long awaited fulfilment of the Diogenes quest.

Presuming that you are an Obama supporter, and forgive me if I am wrong, how is it that you have missed a tenet of universal wisdom, that being beware self proclamations of virture and self serving historic comparisions?

Finally, no I do not believe that you were stating the obvious, but in my humble opinion you were certainly over simplifiying the analysis.

By the way, tea or coffee sounds great.

My vote for Bannekar. Finally, someone has stated publicly why I determined to vote for Obama rather than Clinton early on. I too remember the very weak, almost non-existent support of John Kerry by the Clintons. When I thought it through and realized they were willing to put the USA through 4 more years of Bush/Cheney in order for her to run for President in '08, it became clear that their narcissim was greater than their love for this country. Way to go, Bannekar! Whether Hillary's motives for staying in are narcisstic/entitlement or whether they are to destroy Obama's chance for general election; this is your last chance Clinton's to show that you have enough decency left to put the good of the country before your own ego(s). Obama can win, if you will get out of the way.

I'm shocked by the analyst predictions and blog comments made that support the idea that if Hillary Clinton does not win then the votes will go for McCain. I just don't understand the logic in such a decision. Why would someone flop there vote to a candidate that does not represent anything that Democratic Party as advocated in change that both Hillary Clinton and Obama support? Is it pride, vendetta or just playing ignorance? It's just nonsense to elect a 70 + y/o war monger who has no legitimate plans to boost the economy. He is backed by special interest and in favor of the rich with no clear goes to decrease our dependency of foreign resources. If McCain becomes president we will see a larger divide between the poor and rich, excessive deficit because of wars, as well as no telling what affects this will have on America overall as a superpower nation.

I'm beginning to worry about Hillary's enthusiastic "just folks" supporters. Why would they vote for McCain? Anyway, where have they been the past couple of decades? What happened to the first lady of the vast right wing conspiracy (which it probably was)? The feminist elitist East Coast liberal snob many of this ilk perceived her to be. Now she's supposed to be the champion of their cause? Puh-leeze. At least with Dubya, you knew what was in the package before you opened it (although I never understood why anyone wanted to open it). But who is Hillary now? She has reduced herself to a get-me-elected machine. If she loses to Obama, she could run as an independent on a ticket with Lieberman (they could slug it out as to who gets to be on top). Now that would be a nightmare team!

Wow! So much hatred and ignorance.... Is that why Hillary won the "old" racists and "stupid", oops less educated white vote? It seems that people of intelligence understand that change is not just necessary, but overdue. How could one Black man do any worse than the so-called experienced white man we currently have? And why can't we give him a chance? History proves that every time you give a Black man a chance, he excels. Think: Michaal Jordan, Tiger Woods, Colin Powell, Daniel Hale Williams, etc.

I for one would have supported either candidate until Hillary started the kitchen sink antics and showed her true colors. I'm so glad that is no longer an option. Her day is DONE!

Any wannabe re-elected "Super Delegate" has no choice but to listen to the overwhelming voice of the people. And the people better realize that "United we Stand, Divided we Fall". Let's get it together and show the world we can rise above our differences.

Much LOVE to ALL........

It's irrelevant whether Clinton supporters will vote for or against Obama in November. Till date Obama has had convincing wins in Red states which will go Republican in all probability whereas Hillary has mostly won blue states. Of the 14 red states Obama has won in this nominating contest, half of them haven't voted for a Democrat for president in a general election in more than 40 years. Lyndon Johnson was the last Democrat who won Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, Utah and Virginia ... translated, delegate nominations from those states are pretty irrelevant as they will not count towards the collegial vote if there is no abnormal deviation from past voting trends. Five others haven't voted Democrat to the White House in over twenty years.
Before you cast doubts on the reasoning and try to tie to to the melanin content of my skin - I am neither white nor black. It is statistics and historical trends rather than "hope" and "change" that drives this post.
While a certain percentage of the African American population have and will continue to cross party lines to vote for Obama, there is no demonstrated momentum to turn red states blue. A large part of Obama's success in primaries has been the voting pattern of non-Democrat African Americans in traditionally republican states. Hopefully that trend will continue without a reverse trend of white Democrats crossing lines to vote Republican.
I want to see a democrat in the White House too ... but we just can't seem to find one who will have mass appeal across all of America without banking on a race or gender card.

The news people love to say Hillary get most of her votes from people over 60 there's a good reason for that we are more mature and most have better judgment that comes from experence which the young people don't have. Let's look at the difference in who votes for Obama. Most Obama voter's are young who have a maxed out credit card,a car not paid for and if they have a house they owe m9ore than it's worth so when they hear Change they blindly support that person although he is the most unqualified of the three running. Obama is just a gift of gab and no substance,he has no idea of what it take's to be a president because he has done nothing in his to prepare him for the most powerful job in the world.With the world and America in the terrible shape they are in we need a brilliant president to lead this country back to the great nation we once were and that person is Hillary Clinton.We don't need a internist which Obama would be.

It still close enough and early enough that Obama will mess up his campaign again. I don't like a quitter especially since it is not a "slam dunk" for Obama. A race is a race, whether it is a car race, horse race, etc., you don't see race drivers stopping and getting out of their car during a race, nor do you see any jockey getting off their horse during a horse race.

Regina

Will Hillary Clinton explain this logic please:

She claims that Obama cannot win without the support of blue collar workers from rust belt areas, because Democrats never do. Okay, this makes sense. These voters do seem to prefer her by a considerable margin.

However, when was the last time a Democrat one without the support of African-American voters? I believe this would be when the Republican Party was still "the Party of Abraham Lincoln"!

And Senator Obama fares far better among white blue-collar voters than Senator Clinton does among Blacks. So by her own logic, she is more unelectable than he is (i.e. courting the traditional base of the post-World War II Democratic electorate). As the last few elections suggest, this blue-collar, big state strategy, DOES NOT WORK--remember the last two elections? Obama is actually trying to bring in the new blood and new strategy that might actually win. Florida doesn't matter, because it is a Republican stronghold: something like 18 years of Republican governors and majorities in the State House--why does she therefore think they will support her?

Her logic is not only flawed, but racist (and her husband's thoughtless, Machiavellian, comments have only further exaggerated this fact as did her commercial with the blonde child and midnight phone call ala "Birth of a Nation"). She has been telling have truths for so long now that she has forgotten what truth is. Not who I want ruling my country!

Don't Give Up Hillary! You are the New World Order's ONLY hope, dear!

What is all the excitment about post North Carolina? Before PA, everyone thought Obama would win both Indiana and NC. Hillary took Indiana, however small. NC DP is predominantly black and as expected they voted BO. But NC is not America. It is not even a swing state as politically naive Obama calls it. The states representative of being able to win the national election are CALF, TEXAS, NY, and, oh yeah FLORIDA. WHICH HILLARY won. Obama has not won one state critical in a national election. And despite how much the liberals want to nominate a black man, they have to decide if they want to make history as party or make a win in November. Hillary is still in this race. And she didn't do Obama dirty. Obama's problems are his bad. He chose his pastor,his church, his life. And then disowned them for politics. And about his ethical virtues, what are they? Are they reflective of his black value system? His copying others (the beer drinking in NC and Clinton's healthcare) or the blackness he picked up after being white for 22 years? After all, if the DP doesn't want to know more about him than his skin color, Americans and repulicans surely will.

Wow, from a conservative perspective, the anti-Obama Hillary supporters are the best thing to happen to the GOP. I'm not sure I want them on my side, though. They remind me too much of the jaded Dixiecrats who flocked to the GOP after 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed. How ironic. History really does repeat itself. Reactionary morons are like so many political ping pong balls.

To all Hillary Supporters who proclaim they will not vote for Obama: several SUPREME COURT JUSTICES will be appointed by the next president. Please consider this when you vote. Although I support Obama, if Hillary is the nominee I will vote for her because the Supreme Court hangs in the balance. Another Republican president will cement the conservative majority on the court, some of whom have a problem with stare decisis. It could be the end of he rule of law as we know it.

Barack Obama may be the only person who can ensure the election of John McCain.

This has nothing to do with skin tone, ovaries (or the lack of them), irrational prejudices, or the like. No, it's much simpler than that.

McCain's current impediment to getting elected is his inability to close the deal with conservatives in his own party who perceive -- not unreasonably even if not entirely correctly -- that their candidate has gone out of his way to poke a finger in their eye in the sometimes-recent past at every opportunity. Why, they wonder, is a Republican liberal preferable to a Democratic liberal?

The answer is: Obama.

While McCain is for conservatives at best a mixed bag, Obama is pure anathema. It is far from clear to conservatives that Obama would stand up for America in the world. It is clear that he believes in big-government liberalism somewhere to the left even of Hillary. This along with well-founded doubts about the stoutness of his resume, and his voluntary associations with unrepentant leftist radicals and adherents to black liberation theology is likely to motivate this group to do something they are otherwise disinclined to do: vote for McCain in November.

Unless McCain finds a way to blow it, this election has shades of 1972 without the hotel break-in; that is -- a McGovernesque electoral college landslide.

I would leave Hillary in the race, as a spare. You know, there is tons of stuff about Obama that the media, for whatever agenda, has not been willing to report on. Democrats in-love may not want to hear about Rezko and payoffs and unrepented terrorists in Obama's past, but the info will come out. And better now than later. Does anyone really think that Chris Matthews (chills up his legs guy) did Obama any favors by not reporting the Rev Wright story? They had it, but they decided to look the other way.

could somebody please throw this woman under a bus , I mean literally under a bus

Apparently the voters in West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota are not entitled to have their say in this. What a bunch of elitist SOBs the Post has writing for it.

Frankly having this go all the way to the convention is GOOD for the democrats. It keeps the spotlight on them and keeps their own members energized, giving them lots of free press, while nobody is talking about McCain. I don't see the current campaign as particularly bitter by today's standards at all. Come the convention one of the candidates (almost certainly Clinton) will concede and endorse their opponent and the democratic party will be none the worse for wear.

whitechickNgeorgia - the flag is a piece of cloth, a symbol - wearing or not wearing it has nothing to do with real patriotism. People have fought and died for this country without every giving a thought to wearing a flag pin on their lapel. People have marched at great risk to their lives to end unjust wars or support equality for all, without wearing flag pins on their lapels. True patriotism is defined by actions, not symbols.

You would never vote for Obama for obvious reasons (your name "whitechickNgeorgia" says it all). Why don't you try being honest - another real, patriotic action, and stop spewing hate about a man you don't know.

Whenever I see Obama on TV, I see an inexperienced idealist, someone big on ideas but without the knowledge, confidence or the means to execute them. It seems this entire country is on the Obama wave which makes me wonder if this is a good thing. Fervor for a candidate solely on charisma is not enough. Let me remind all Americans about the poor choices made in the past with reelecting George W. Bush, due to the fervor from 911. It's hip to jump on the Obama bandwagon since all the celebrities and musicians are doing it. The media is totally enraptured with him and writing kudos to his potential to do "Change". But I simply don't see it in him. I don't see a backbone in him to stand up to all the problems this country is suffering from and what the world has in store for the next president.

Choose wisely people. This country can not afford another mistake.

To the comment by:
ReviewAccess.Com Bill at 11:05AM

AMEN!

It's extremely sad to think there are so many Americans who would neither vote for a Black man, or a woman. That leaves McCain! How sad!

i also think timm russert and john king should have their credintials taken away for their less than vetting obama, instead of acting afraid to say something racial, to get to the truth of him...i think a lot of people wished they hadn't voted for him,
aftr voting for him in good faith...ok. i told people not to vote for king george twice and look what happened to us this man is not ready to be king, i mean president... let him grow a few hairs on his chest, first.. if ever.. shame on you america, now i'm ashamed of america for the first time in my life.

"Anyone else notice the similarities between Hitler and Obama?"

Uh, no, but I HAVE noticed many similarities between Hitler and GW Bush.

That sounds like some stupid line out of the Lush Rimbaugh get-me-some-more-oxy-wouldya(?!) playbook.

Women have failed Hillary Clinton. Blacks don't take Obama for granted and women shouldn't take Hillary for granted either.

What a huge, sad mistake.

Hopefully, though, Hillary will stay in the race and women will wake up before it's too late. We can do it, we can actually put a brilliant, talented woman in the White House, if we'd only realize how important it is to do so.

mccain is talking about tax and spend democrats..our dollar under bush is worthless..in 7 years bush has spent 4 trillion dollars..3 trillion added to the national debt..mccain another war with iran..how many trillion more..bush asked the other day for 70 billion more for iraq..when will this end..obama 2008

Time for Hillary to pack it in and get behind the clear choice of the majority of those in the party. The only way she can pull ahead is to exercise the nuclear option.

Obama may win or lose this election, but I suspect that the nuclear option will effectively destroy the party for a generation.

DEMOCRATS:

People who claim to be Democrats and then say they will vote Republican if the particular candidate they like does not get the nomination astound me. Obama and Clinton agree on ALMOST EVERYTHING and when they don't the differences are generally minor. A silly "gas tax holiday" had to be cooked up to create a difference beyond their race and gender to keep the race remotely interesting.

McCain is a Republican, more moderate than some, but still a Republican through and through. A Democrat who does his or her homework would know that the Republican party politicians consistently vote for anti-environment, pro-war, anti-civil liberties, pro-corporation-at-the-expense-of-people, pro-gun, pro-hatred-of-just-about-everyone policies and perpetuate a heightened sense of fear to keep people in their place. (I know, I know, if you are Republican you call this being pro-defense, pro-family, and having a healthy appreciation for the dangers...but this post really isn't for you anyway.)

Better McCain than Obama? Better McCain than Clinton? Is that what you really want to say with your vote? That you are an anti-environment, pro-killing, anti-woman, anti-minority, anti-gay, pro-lawless-corporations person who thinks 4 more years of carnage and financial devastation is the way to make our country better?

Bush's in-your-face Republicanism has finally helped many Republicans realize the short-sightedness and immorality of the GOP. You want to go the other way as your own little form of rebellion... well that's counter-productive... Take up kickboxing and write the less-preferred candidate's name on your bag. Create an imaginary friend with the same name as your preferred-but-losing candidate and complain to him/her about the eventual nominee as loudly as you like (preferrably in private). Have toilet paper printed with the name of the candidate you do not like and relish the metaphor that wiping becomes. Get creative... get over it... but don't get mindless.

Neither candidate has overstepped their bounds so much that the country should suffer as a result. The comments of their supporters cannot be taken as the words of the candidates. No one speaks for me... I bet other people interpreting the words of random people you know (or even spouses, children, parents, or preachers) as being YOUR WORDS would not sit well with you either. And past deeds, actions, and votes show that neither candidate is REMOTELY racist.

I encourage EVERYONE to go to the party sites for the Republicans and Democrats. Print out the platforms. Do the same for the candidates. When you agree with something ask yourself "But do I think this should be something mandated/supported/enforced by the government?" Color-code or number-code or write notes on the print outs and put together your own platform. I found it very helpful to see on paper what I really think as I mapped how that aligned with the candidates. Look at their voting records, listen to what they say, and read their platforms. Or at the very least use a "Candidate Match Tool" available online for a quickie perspective.

Then vote with head and your heart... for the party that best represents your beliefs, interests, and vision of this great country.

Obama cannot win without the independent voters. Here in Massachusetts, he will find himself shut out. There is nobody here who will support him. Additionally, those who are tradionally Democractic will cross over and vote for McCain.... He has already shown that he will not get the white vote nor those who are the majority of voters (i.e. older, women).... Say hello to President McCain in November.....

As 1 of 1.7 million voters from Florida and the DNC and Dean does not seat our delegation,then I as a life long delegate will either withhold my vote for the Democratic nominee or vote Republican for the first time regardless of who the nominee is.A vote is sacred and on principle will not abide by the rule that Dean and Company has made. It takes 50 states and our possessions to nominate a candidate not 48. Ann Dalton

Barack Obama represents what we need as a leader for this country. We have gone on long enough with liars in control.

I am going to vote for Barack Obama not because of his color, not because of his associates, not because McCain is old and out of touch with youth, and not because of faith or bitterness. I am going to vote for Barack Obama because he is the first step in taking back our country from political rats.

Maybe Barack cannot provide everything that he hopes too, but the fact that he will actually try is going to inspire more of the kind of people we need to lead this country. The kind of people that put personal, religious, and greedy beliefs behind them for the greater good of our nation.

Maybe after 4 years of Obama, the bar will be raised. Then idiots like Bush cannot just ride in on the backs of their fathers and take over the country. We will look to our president as an inspiring leader like we did in the beginning.

Down with this Prom Queen contest called the American presidency and up with a contest composed of people we consider better then ourselves. I, for one, want a president that is superior to me in intelligence, an elitist you might say.

NOT SOMEONE TO HANGOUT WITH.

No wonder the american economy is down,
people would rather blog than pay
attention to a career.

Ann S. - Did you mean Obama or McCain has no plan for educating children, fixing health care, etc. Sounds like you meant McCain, but you said Obama.

whitechickNgeorgia, was that the U.S. flag or the Confederate one you were referring to? As far as "love it or leave it," I might remind you: 150 years ago, that's just what a lot of people tried.

You guys have to at least put on some boxing gloves and fight nice. This broken-glass glued on taped fist stuff is getting silly now.

Last year, I was saying that as long as things stay as they are (continued incompetence in Iraq, warrantless wiretapping, torture, etc...) there was only one Republican capable of defeating the Democratic Party this Fall, and it was and still is John McCain. I was hoping that he would not make his storied comeback and that the Dems would be able to shred someone like Giuliani.

I thought like this because part of me was reminiscent of the John McCain in the nomination battle leading up to 2000, where I could have voted for him had he been nominated (lifelong Democrat speaking). But since then, he has changed in to something different. Since when has he been a parrot of Bush's policies? Did he do it for the support of the ever shrinking base? Why does he deserve this Maverick label that hasn't really been accurate for the last 2-3 years leading up to the election?

I agree that the long nomination battle is hurting the Democrats, but I don't believe the argument that either Obama or Clinton are unelectable. They are running against a candidate who is in favor of a lot of things that most of America is against...and I think that Dick Cheney did not help McCain when he said "So?"

I still think whoever is nominated (looking like Obama) will be able to defeat McCain on the grounds of the issues themselves...that's what I keep telling myself anyways.

Go home!

Hmmm... tens of thousands of new registered Democrats? Go operation Chaos! Republicans going out to keep the fight going by voting for the underdog.

It doesn't matter who wins the nomination at this point. And it's going to be decided now by un-elected party officials (super-delegates), not any of you.

Besides, we Republicans have enough sound bites from every level of the Democrat organization that we can attack the Democrat Nominee using your own words. And we don't have to take the blame for those words or be called racist or sexist because you said it, not us.

What we're witnessing is a movement in favor of change, dynasties are over at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. The American people are, on par, smarter than is generally acknowledged and are moving in the right direction.

The ire of the Clinton supporter who refuses to concede and throw in her lot behind Obama is clear ... "hell hath no fury..."

get back to work

I am a non white or rich Hillary supporter who also plans to either not vote or vote for someone else if Obama is chosen. As for the people that are suggesting only rich, white people are supporting Hillary you are wrong. Besides the black vote Obama gets a majority of the vote from people who make over 200,000 a year. Hillary is the one campaigning for us working class and minorities. I refuse to fall for speeches filled with fluff, and would rather move out of the country then live in a county with people who dont base their choices on reality. As for my choice to not vote its mostly because I am a Floridian and feel if my vote is not going to count now, then you dont need my vote in the fall!

McCain is a warmonger who will follow Bush policies word for word. He's said as much, and he will do as much for all the extreme-right wingers he has courted so hard. And though he is respected by moderates and even left-wingers, there's not much a GOP candidate can do except cozy up to conservative powers in order to get money and get elected. We know that Giuliani would have done the same, but would Romney or Huckabee done anything different? It's just their party base, what to do?
Hillary, I mean come on. She lied about her Bosnia trip, hired people herself to chant "iron my shirt" at her rallies, so as to make her feminism point, refused to rein in her now-nutty husband, allowed James Carville to call Bill Richardson Judas and said nothing, and had to fire a ton of people on her campaign cuz they were either fighting or couldn't stay on message. She has run a terrible campaign despite lending her own money to it. Who thinks she could run a country well? The only good thing about her campaign has been her daughter Chelsea. I would vote for Chelsea over Hillary because she's got the composure as well as the policy knowledge.
So that leaves us with Barack. Fairly smart, very composed, generally honest, friendly, cooperative, able to communicate with and bring together coalitions of disparate people. Isn't that what we want in a president? And since he's a better speaker, sometimes that obscures his command of policy. He's come out tested, dare I say vetted, and he can take America to a peaceful and productive future, one in which people don't hate us so much, maybe.

One other point,honestly people, we're still thinking he's a Muslim after his PASTOR the REVEREND J.Wright has been in the news? Why would a Muslim spend twenty years attending Trinity United Church of Christ, marrying in a church, baptizing two children in a church? Come on now.

Valrie Sommerville

the only reason that you will not vote for Obama is because he is black!!!!! What is wrong with you people? You will vote for the devil himself to avoid voting for a black man. What kind of SICK HATRED IS THAT!! I hope that all of you who have a problem voting for a black man remember that come judgment day, when you see Jesus (and believe me you will be in for a surprise) just remember, there is no black and white in heaven!! There never will be. If you want to get to heaven, you have to learn to BLACK here!! Hating someone because of their color is a serious character flaw and characterless people will not be in heaven. However, I suspect you wont' be there anyway because once you see what color Jesus is (go to your Bible and check out a description of him) you are going to want to kill yourself. Stop the hate before it's too late - I think I just made a new slogan - Stop the Hate before it's too late!

if what we saw last night was old politics i will take it over college kids who don't know what tomorrow will bring or, care, who have been bambozzoled by the medicine man, i won't let them pick my candidate for president. i will vote for mcclain and i have neveer threatened that before or i will write in votes for hillary..fools, fools, what you gonna do ,obama's making fools out of all of you.

I think Barack should offer Hillary the VP spot, and a defacto co-presidency. He would be President during the 8AM to 8PM shift, and she would be available, as per her suggestion, to field the 3AM phone calls.

There is no non-destructive scenario under which Senator Clinton could get the nomination at this point. None. Nor is there any positive purpose to be served by Hillary's prolonging of the contest and proving "for the record" that she can beat Obama in West Virginia and Kentucky. It needs to end. The Clinton people talk about how Obama would surely get behind Hillary if she were the nominee and help heal the wounds, particularly with the African-American community. Well guess what -- she is the one who now needs to do that and help assure that those who have supported her will get behind Obama. Last night's so-called "split" gives her the perfect opportunity to bow out in a graceful, even historic, way -- a formidable warrior, still with a bright future in the Senate and perhaps beyond, stepping aside for the good of the party and ultimately the country.

It's tough for Hillary. She knows Obama will lose in November, but she also knows that she can't come out and say this in the way she needs to because a lot of Democrats support Obama not because they put winning first, but out of a desire for wish fulfillment.

A lot of Obama followers I talk to can't see that Obama is going to lose to McCain. They have deluded themselves into believing Obama brings the broad coalition necessary to prevail in November. However, African-Americans, affluent liberals, and college students, while a force in a Democratic primary, cannot win national elections in the United States of America. You need these groups plus women, Latinos, and white rural and working class voters. That's the coalition Clinton brings.

Tragically, many Obama followers I talk to don't care about the further entrenchment of the conservative countermovement in the judiciary under president John McCain. They want the symbolism of a black candidate in the election, everything else be damned. They don't even care about the symbolism of a woman candidate (a lot of Clinton-loathing is sublimated patriarchal sentiment).

As we all know, Clinton is a very smart person. She knows how difficult it is to argue with people whose support for something roots in irrational need. She knows what a true believer is, she has seen personality cults before, and she knows how impervious followers are to reason.

So she has stayed in this race hoping that people will come to their senses largely on their own. This has been her strategy since Obama became the front runner. She would have a hard time dealing with the responsibility of not having been there for Democrats if they realized the importance of winning and grasped the reality that Obama cannot win. She has a lot of faith in the ability of Democrats to figure things out. McGovern. Mondale. Dukakis. Kerry. Obama. One would think the faith would run out after a while.

The issue: who is the best electable presidential candidate in the general eletion (GE)? The Dems superdelegates should consider the recent Nationwide poll
that showed Hillary leads McCain by 5% points, and she leads Obama by 7% points.
This Nationwide poll was taken by The USA/
Gallup after the re-emergence of Obama's ex-pastor the Rev. J. Wright controversial
anti-white & anti-American statements. The
general election is entirely different race
than the Dems Primary election. I believe
that Obama is NOT electable in November '08
because the white Americans, the Latinos,
and the cross-over Dems will not vote for
Obama. Good luck Dems!

I think its just time for Hillary to leave but leave out graciously. The mathematics are against her and her chances of making any argument to the super delegates has now been canceled. Even if they count Florida and Michigan she would still be down by 100 delegates shes finish

Exactly the kind of obnoxious, elitist Obama supporter who will cause the Democrats to lose in Nov.

Posted by: Robert G. | May 7, 2008 10:59 AM

Great usage from your HIllary Clinton word list, Robby!

Obama was far from my first choice. I am much, much more liberal than Obama. Considering what is left and considering that you have to be either blind, brain-dead or as dishonest as she is to justify Clinton's campaign tactics, I am supporting Obama. It is fairly obvious to anyone who IS paying attention that Hillary is in it for HILLARY...she doesn't give two sh*ts about the party. Exactly where does "elitist" come into Obama's campaign? You make me laugh at you...being raised by a single mother and being a self-made man who ate on food-stamps at one point as a child is "elitist" in Hill's world, while being raised upper middle-class, being an alumni of Wellesley and having a political track record as long as my arm, as well as being a former first lady and multi-millionaire is equivalent to "humble roots". I feel like I want to vomit just typing it, but Hill's a good illusionist, because you for one have obviously fallen for it.

Obnoxious? I think not. Certainly not anymore than you are. Will you support Obama if he goes up? Because he will, and he will beat McBush in November, you can bet your little "obnoxious elitist" bippy on that.

J Cline wrote:
> If Obama were sincere and not such a blatant panderer,

ROFLMAO!!! You mean the one candidate who ISN'T promoting a "gas holiday" which every serious economist has pointed out will have little to no helpful effect on our economy?

You mean, as opposed to the sudden shot-drinking, beer guzzling candidate who suddenly gained an accent when talking from the back of a pickup truck in Indiana?

You mean, as opposed to McCain, who denounced Pat Robertson only to later speak at his college and become best buddies because he realized he had to get the religious nuts on his side?

> made him unpalatable to all but the irrational.

Wow, looks like the majority of Americans must be "irrational" since Obama is beating all comers in the latest nation-wide polls.

> Nope. Obama won't get this independent's vote.

You misspelled "right-wing nutjob pretending to be an independent"

Hillary Clinton should explain the "UNELECTABILITY" of OBAMA which her supporters are talking about. In 15 months, coming from nowhere he advanced against so many odds, and attacks, fighting against her who had all the advantages as the former first lady, supported by a popular past president and a name recognition that very few presidential candidates had in history. If this accomplishment is nothing to count, Americans has the right to know what she means by 'unelectability'

Hillary should give way to OBAMA as the Moon would to the rising Sun. His message for unity and his call to Americans to grow beyond color and divisions are the needs of the country and the ONLY way for it to restore its position as the leader of nations. Unfortunately for her, he appeared on the stage when she consider 2009 US president ship as her birth right.
How the nation respond to this new player would tell the world a lot about what AMERICA is. How Hillary (and Bill) Clinton will act now will fix their position in American history

Pulikeel

i find it funny that if obama was behind..700,000 votes..31 states to 17..160 delagates ..who would think he should have stayed in months ago..no more clintons or bushes in the white house.

As a Canadian, I find it amusing that the current generation of yuppie-spawn is grinding it out with their parents over sheer semantics and optics.

This debate might as well be about the respective attributes of Burger King and McDonalds.

It all seems such a waste - Stupid people decide elections..remember that.

Awin for Hilary or Obama would be historic and Americanslove being partof the making of it. So history is on the side of the Democratic candidates(Ameians have an almost insatiable lust for the new an novel).Nevertheless that same history will prove abuaboo for MCain(Americans have never elected one so old as he)

HRC's strategy seems to be to survive long enough until the mother ship can rescue her. But it's become clear that the Democratic apparatus is in no mood to overturn the election. Bill Clinton started his presendency with 268 Dems in the House and left with 190. His efforts at triangulation were good for his own survival but did little to build the party. There's no reservoir of good will from the legislators he threw under the bus. HRC for Prez is now little more than a vanity campaign, as evidenced by her $6.4 million loan to herself. And the argument that she should be handed the nomination because older and less educated whites will not vote for an African-American? Shame on her.

Passions are running high and I know many Democrats are feeling deeply disappointed that Clinton will not secure the nomination, while many Obama supporters are feeling elated that the nomination race seems to finally be over. That said, Democrats from both camps need to tread carefully these next few days, weeks, and months. Demonizing and dismissing the other side for being, oh, let's see.... "elitist" or "uneducated" or "playing the race card" or "playing the gender card" or "delusional" or "hopelessly idealistic" or whatever other insult has been thrown back and forth will NOT bring about the fundamental changes this country needs come November. If you are disappointed in Obama, take just one hour (more, of course, if you have time) to carefully look through his plans on his website. He thinks No Child Left Behind is a success and has no plan -NO PLAN- for helping public school children. He has no plan for health care. He does not want to repeal the tax cuts for the wealthy. Please, for the sake of those who are truly suffering, move beyond your own personal disappointment and think of about the reality that if McCain is elected, children won't get properly educated as they cram for meaningless assessments, thousands of Americans and innocent Iranian civilians may die in Iran and will continue to die in Iraq, and families like mine that don't have health care will continue to struggle paycheck to paycheck. Hillary Clinton will look beyond her own disappointment to join the fight for Barack. So should you.

Nope, not paranoid, just observant. You should take a closer look at people and circumstances before you make any judgements. He's very much like Hitler, and all of the fervor of his campaign is eerily familiar. Think, man, think.

Clinton should not quit. I believe that she is better president than Obama.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

I believe I read that Senator Clinton cannot pay her primary bills with money contributed that is earmarked for the general. Do you think continuing this race might be all about money?
McCain shouldn't be hard to beat in November. We need to be Americans first, join together and get our country back on track. We all want to see a strong America again, don't we?

Where did you learn, or thought you learned to write?

"There is considerable discussion about what would happen (?) the Florida and Michigan primary results could be counted; there is the debate about whether Obama is electable (no such word), and there is an extended conversation about one paragraph in story, which said, "A Clinton adviser said the situation was increasingly becoming one in which 'she cannot be nominated and he can't get elected.' "

This child must have been left behind.

Go Hillary!

It's over when the Fat Reverend sings.

JL

I am for Obama simply because with Clinton the Iran obliterator, or McCain the hundred-year-war nut job as president, there is no hope of withdrawing from Iraq any time soon. At least with Obama it is possible.

J Cline,
Keep your vote, it's just in the 2 percentage points that Obama didn't get in Indiana - who needs it you dummy!

JC, how can you call obama a patriot when he won't even respect this country's flag? He's no patriot! I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only person running! Disrespecting MY flag is the quickest way to get on the fighting side of me. The times may be a changing and freedom of expression, religion, and speech may be grossly exagerated and has become the 'norm' for todays younger society but it won't hold water for those of us who have been here long enough to be painfully aware of the bombing of pearl harbor, Viet Nam, Grenada, the Gulf War, Faulklands, 9-11, and this mess in Iraq. The fallen were citizens of this country and died for her. One would expect no less commitment or patriotic stances from anyone running for president of this country. Love it or leave it!

Elite, campaign poor Hillary needs to get out. She is counting on the bigotry and ignorance of U.S. citizens to get elected. She has lost. She has no money. It is time for Democratic leaders to set her straight. If Obama were white she would have quit a long time ago. Get past the color of his skin. Let's elect someone who doesn't have the political scene and lobbyists in his pockets. Look at where his money came from: Small contributions from very ordinary citizens who are sick of American politics as usual. Give it up, Hil! You weren't exactly loved as First Lady. There is a reason Republicans want you to win: They know you will lose!

What a mess! These primaries are such a joke that a parade in Germany has Obama as a dog grabbing Hillary (as a pink pig's) back (to be pc.. but you get the picture)

I may reluctantly vote for Barack.. but he did let me down with the Wright controversy. I dont think he subscribes to Wright's view. But to me, its hard to believe that Barack hasnt understood his pastor that he has known for 20 years. That shows poor judgement.. or plain indifference.

Apparently, Oprah discontinued from this church in the 90s when she heard similar comments.. so, why did Barack hold on?

McCain is going to have a ball playing this up.

My God people, Hitler compared to Obama? Take your meds, dude! You're paranoid.

It's really sad to see the end coming for Hillary after she tried so hard. I mean, since 1972 she has been living high on taxpayer money and it has made her drunk with greed. Do you really think this monster cares about anyone besides herself? She would and has thrown anyone under that bus that she has had to in order to advance herself. She has stayed in a sham marriage because she only used Bill as a ladder, so there's no sanctity and no religion in her unless it serves her needs. Her friends and associates have repeatedly gone to prison or killed themselves from fear of what she would do to them if they told on her. She has no qualms dragging down the country to achieve her goal and she is doing it currently. There are three likely scenarios that will come of this. She can run as independent like Lieberman. She can wait 4 more years in the Senate while undermining the current president as she already has. Or she can fight for it in the Supreme Court as seems to have become fashionable in this country. What has become of us when the people with the power become part of the litigous problem we have in this country? She and Mccain are part of the "same old politics", it's obvious where they have steered the country, amazing how much money she has made while the rest of us get poorer. You could count on Bill as VP and no doubt Chelsary will make a fine secretary of state, nothing like a great high paying taxpayer financed job for junior on her way to running for Senator, all in the family right? That's not democracy, that's a farce. WAKE UP and stop acting like cattle, these people laugh at your self-supposed intelligence while they live the high life. Are YOU living the high life or just talking? Unions supporting Hillary, Blue collar workers supporting Hillary, that's odd because while you supported them she and her husband supported NAFTA and the 1999 CHINA WTO accord that sent all your jobs overseas, you really think they are coming back if she is elected? She and Bill outsourced the military, 1992 study by Kellog Brown Root recommended that, that company is subsidiary of KBR, got the biggest no bid contracts of the war, do your research. There are more contractors than troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, pulling in ten times and more what soldiers make, do you think contractors donate to the clintons? You really think she is going to screw them by ending the war? Soldiers may come home, contractors can replace them, technically not a lie right? That's how it is with her. Revolution begins with the first shot, heard round the world. Pull the trigger, vote for Obama.

Hillary says she lent her campaign $6.4 million in recent weeks. My question is why.

On Decvember 31, 2007, the Clinton campaign reported having received more in contributions than Obama. So they started out in January with Clinton having more money. It was reported that Obama spent more than Clinton in January. Now in January Obama received more than Clinton, but he spent more. Yet at the end of January, Clinton reported having to lend her campaign $5 million. Where is Hillary's money going? It was reported that Mark Penn received $7.5 million in salary, and it was also reported that her staff was paid extremely high wages. After the Pennsylvania victory, Clinton reported receiving $10 million in contributions in one day. Still she continued to spend far less than Obama. WHERE IS HILLARY'S MONEY GOING. Certainly in past weeks she has received far more FREE time on the news channels than Obama. Free advertising. FOX NEWS continued to run Wright's comments which were a free advertisement for Hillary. CNN gave 3/4 of a recent Clinton speech while giving Obama's a few seconds. She has received an unbelievably free ride advertising her campaign from the press, the news channels and particularly ABC with the help of George Stephanopoulis plus NBC and CBS. I have had to stop watching the news channel because of bias. Where is Walter Cronkite when you need him. The written press slants its news. I want my news presented as objectively as possible. This is so obvious I wonder how the reporters ever got out of Journalism School with a passing grade. So where is her money going? Or is this just whining to get more contributions?

Hillary should bail out because I disdain nepotism. Two hundred and thirty two years ago we removed a nepotistic form of government and over the past two decades we seem to be attempting to reinstate one. Bush....Clinton......Bush......Clinton just seems dangerous to me. Just say no.

It's time for Hillary to show some class and bow out of the race. Obama is the candidate who offers America a genuine chance for change which we so desperately need. We've seen Clinton politics and they weren't that great. The idea that Hillary is more electable than Obama in the GE is absurd.

This is not good for the country. With almost 40% of Clinton supporters in places like PA,Ohio,Indiana saying that they would not vote for Obama, I don't know how he could possibly win in November. I understand lot of them will eventually vote for Obama but the election is going to be close and if only 5 % carry out their threat to vote for McCain, the election is lost. I am sure most of those who say they won't vote for Obama in the fall are not racists. They are after all democratic primary voters. Some of them may have some deep rooted biases and they would probably justify it by showing how the African American voters have essentially voted along racial lines. Are they not being at the least racially biased. More than 90 percent for Obama. How is anyone going to justify that as anything else but racially motivated voting. If that is so doesn't the majority have the right to do the same? Isn't this an indication that the minority can be as racially biased as the majority? Isn't this going to come up in all future arguments about racial biases in America? This cannot possibly help race relations in America.

Oh Northern Observer, you wrote: "Finally, has anyone actually stopped to consider just how much of a change it will or will not be to elect Mr. Obama as president. Black man, yellow man, red or white, the common denomiator is testosterone. Wouldn't electing the first female president in the American political experiment be more akin to an institutional and policy revolution."

Let me start by saying hi there, but I've got a question for you, and I hope I'm not stating the obvious... more than one's gender or race, the biggest change we've got here is to actually get some new blood in the White House. How much of an "institutional and policy revolution" do you think it would be to have 20 years of a "democracy" of over 300 million individuals led by two families? Maybe we can get Chelsea or Jenna to pick up after Hillary's had her run?

Just curious, because amid some of that high-falutin' talk of yours, you didn't seem to notice that.

One more thing: You're welcome to come have tea at my place anytime, or coffee. But if you hit me, I'll knock the cr@p out of you.

Clinton should not bow out of the race until she heals the party. Clinton has tarnished Obama's character too badly for her to suddenly stop running without disenfranchising at least 10% of her constituency. Once she excuses herself, her statements won't reach as many people: a good number of her most emotionally invested supporters will turn off the T.V. Her exit strategy has to heal the party before that strategy initiates her exit.

Well, it's either Hillary the Wicked Witch of the West, Obama the America-hating terrorist, or McCain the War Hero for President. It's a no-brainer. McCain is my man, and the silent majority will agree. Let the best man win, and God bless America! McCain 2008

Anyone else notice the similarities between Hitler and Obama? Just saying...If you could change something in the past, wouldn't you have made sure that Hitler did not come to power? Obama needs to be sent packing back to IL, and he should never become president. He's dangerous and manipulative, and it seems a lot of people have fallen for his lies.

If, as Senator Clinton and her supporters suggest, Clinton has a better chance of defeating Senator McCain in the general election, why are Republicans trying so hard to make sure Obama is not the nominee they will face in November?

Why did Rush Limbaugh's "operation chaos" net Clinton an estimated 4.7% of her Indiana votes?

Why are Republican columnists writing decidedly pro-Clinton, anti-Obama articles?

Is it because they are so fair-minded they relish the thought of a spirited contest with a more formidable opponent?

They are not only trying to promote the opponent they are more confident they can defeat, but also trying to force Democrats to spend as much money, time, and enthusiasm as possible on our primary, leaving us with depleted resources when we need them for the general election. Senator Clinton is helping them. Uncommitted superdelegates are helping them.

Well, guess after being a long time Democrats, if Hillary not nominated on the ticket the union 1721 of Texas (3800 + strong) met and decided to go with Mccain. We'll start this weekend and travel Texas to give reasons my we must get Hillary in office.

@Northern Observer -- and people say Americans are arrogant.

Democrat - Republican??? Does either really matter? It's been made very clear that people in America don't get to choose (who we want to have the opportunity to vote for) Instead, we're dictated to by the "Super Delegates" who primarily control who THEY want in the whitehouse. It's all rigged and corrupt, it's already been pre-determined for us. Obama, Hillary, McCain... Doesn't matter, nothing is going to change, they all have money, none of them suffer with poverty or health issues - So, Again I say, It doesn't really matter. The Rich keep getting Richer, and the poorer continue to suffer. Social Security, Health Care, Rising Inflation, No Raises for the working class, Failing Education, Dependency on other countries and their resources... Too many issues, and it makes me sick. Yes, I enjoy my freedom as an American - But I must say that being an American in today's world means that someone else (Someone with Power and Money) will always dictate to me and other Americans what we can and cannot do, how we can and cannot spend our retirement money and social security. And with our current government - I'm afraid that MY Social Security won't be there for me to use, because it will have already been used up by our Government Pretending to fight some war somewhere else to cover their own butts.... VOTE? WHY? Black Man, White Woman, or McCain??? Can I just write in "Mickey Mouse for President" Because in the end it's just another circus ride anyway... No positive ending to this drama...
BinKC

whitechickNgeorgia,

You are such an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

Hey "whitechickNgeorgia," your user name tells us more about why you won't vote for Obama than your words do.

if anyone on here cares about the price they pay for gas and food ..then thank bush..our dollar ..under bush is worthless..oil is pegged to the dollar..22 a barrel 7 years ago..122 a barrel now..this tells you how our money is doing..and bush trying to get that trade deal done today with columbia..saying its better for us..we can export more..yea right..they can import more to us..selling more cheap goods here in the united states..vote it down..get rid of nafta..and make china..vietnam..etc..have the same standards that we have here ..if they want to sell to us..or put tariffs on everything that comes in..we do not need them..we can produce everything here and better.

Would she be able to drag it on for this long even when she was behind the whole time if she was black or Obama was white?

Though I voted for her, I believe it's time for Senator Clinton to bow out of the race. She and Senator Obama have had a good run of it, but only one can go forward, and it seems Obama is (but not by much) the guy for the job.

What is disconcerting is how ungracious and, frankly, childish many of the comments here are. Clinton is not a megalomaniac. As New Yorkers can attest, she is a very intelligent and hard-working pragmatist who knows how the system works. Obama is not a racist, socialist egghead. He is a very intelligent and charismatic man who has inspired perhaps millions of new voters to participate in the American democratic experiment.

They both want the job, and they've both worked very hard to get where they are. There's not much dishonorable about that.

Are they perfect? Of course not. They are politicians, and they have pulled out the stops to try to get elected. Sometimes this takes forms we may not like, but it doesn't make either of them ogres or wackos.

If you want to have a Republican for the next four years, by all means vote for John McCain. But if you don't, stop trashing these two competent and hard-working Democrats and start working to make sure one of them is elected.

How can either side call the other "venomous" without being hypocritical? I've seen Hillary supporters bash Obama supporters for being stupid and I've seen Obama supporters do the same to Hillary supporters.

This is not to say that the Republicans are any better. Huckabee supporters bashed McCain supporters and the McCain supporters returned the favor.

If the goal is to make someone switch sides, education, not childish insulting and taunting, is the way to go.

Bob D. :

Are you joking? Did you just say Hillary would be better for the economy than Obama? Hillary and McCain have about as much sense when it comes to economics as a 2 year old, which was shown clearly with the recent tax holiday ordeal.

Just because Obama is a good talker, does not mean that talking is his only skill. Try reading up on his plans for economic change. I have read all of the plans on Hillary's website, and they are the same ideas that democrats have been failing to pass for the past 20 years.

Obama actually has some new and good ideas for getting this stuff done, drafted with bipartisan support by experts in the field.

Of course if all you do is watch him give motivational speeches, then you will think he is nothing more than a good speaker. He is still better at motivating people than Hillary ever was, but the reason I will vote for him on the 20th is his commitment to investing in technology.

It is over Hillary. Farewell Bill. The Clinton era is over. I respect you guys though. You guys brought us pride at one point.
Welcome Obama, the leader of the new era, our new rising star and the indisputable new President of the United States of America. We will rally behind you and change the world. We are proud of your honesty, integrity,moral rectitude, patriotism,respect for other nations, respect for republicans,and your stance for the good of the common man. Republicans and Independents alike, you are all invited to come share in this once in a lifetime experience.

Obama has won. He won a long time ago.

It isn't time for Hillary to voluntarily drop out. It is time for the Superdelegates to shine. They should realize that nothing is going to change from now until after the last state votes. They should start steadily coming out in favor of one candidate or the other. Doing it in June just wastes a month. Nothing will change by then.

Obama should offer Hillary the VP spot. She has proven that there are many people that want her to play a prominent role in leading the country. Obama claims that he's a syncretist, well Obama, start by bringing the Party together in a fair way by quickly offering the VP spot to Hillary. This should be done quickly. Any hesitation could be seen by Hillary, her campaign and her supporters as not representing their interests or respecting them. Obama needs to make this decision despite the fact that Hillary is from NY where he'll win in November anyway. Hillary will nicely complement Obama's deficits: She is seen as being experienced, She has somehow managed to appear to represent the working class, She should help capture Penn, Ohio & Florida.

If Hillary turns down this position and then acts like a wounded-warrior throughout the general election we'll know for sure that the Clintons only care about themselves. And we'll know that what some have intimated about them putting their own interests above party interests is true. There will be an established pattern of them acting to the the detriment of the Party. Examples would include lukewarm support for Kerry's campaign and now nuking Obama's campaign. Kerry support for Obama early in this campaign was an example of the chickens coming home to roost for the Clintons. If Hillary attempts to nuke another campaign, Obama's disgruntled supporters will undermine any future political plans of hers whether it is a future Senate re-election or a nomination effort in 4 or 8 years.

If Hillary accepts the running-mate nod, then I really can't see how the Party can loose. Either of them would still run pretty well against McCain, but both of them with all of their charisma, political guile, fund-raising ability and support will trounce McCain. Add to that the political environment and we've got a sure bet Democratic Party win.

I used to be afraid of Hillary bringing out Republican voters because of their hatred of her. But two things have changed my mind about this:
1. I realize that it is simply a Republican tactic to instill as much unnatural hatred of the Dem nominee by their base as they can. Regardless of whether it is Bill, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, or any future Democratic nominee. They will find some silly, issueless reason to hate them. We'll have to deal with this tactic regardless of the nominee, so Dems should just bite the bullet and choose leaders we think deserve a shot.
2. The GOP is on the defensive. The economy and the war are issues that will weigh on them. Plus there are simply more Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents than Republicans or Republican-leaning independents. Simply put, they are more of US than them.

Black people are more racists than whites and thats why Obama is winning and couple them with the black guys sitting over in CNN and shouting for Obama!!!

It is painfully disappointing to see and hear Hillary supporters threaten to vote for Mccain if Obama wins the nomination. It seems to demonstrate the kind of leadership Clinton exhibits: divisive. To many people. it comes off as juvenile: "If I don't get my way then you can't get yours!" I know there will be many posts defending this type of decision with all the typical talking points: "He's a racist! Jermiah Wright! No Experience!" etc, but that too is disappointing. Obama is fighting a noble battle: to convince us all that we don't have to resort to such small mindedness. We can actually be bigger than that. We can listen to each other and produce results together that would never have come about had we wasted our time bickering. Obama is not perfect, he's not the messiah, but he just might be the democratic nominee. So, Hillary supporters, I beg you to consider getting outside of your box and rallying behind a man that stands for many of the same things as your candidate. If Hillary wins, I will do the same.

I find it quite comical that the only people Hillary and McCain can get votes from are the uneducated. What does that say? Bring on McCain, Obama is going to crush him in the general election just as he did Hillary. Smart people can see through the bigotry of the main stream media and the uneducated. it is a new day and the intelligent people can see that.

Hillary can go ahead and announce her intention to stay in the race, but there are 2 factors that may over rule her.

1) campaign fund contributions
2) super delegates

Will those folks urging her to continue give her the money to do it? Doubtful. I don't think she'll continue to loan significant amounts of money to stay in the game.

If the super delegates want to see a democrat take office in November, they are smart enough to understand a unified party is more important than Hillary's interests.

This country is heading toward financial ruin. If the predictions are correct that oil will hit $200 a barrel, our country is going to have some dire times ahead. Taxing our rich or our own corporations will not pull us out of this tailspin, especially if we continue to fund a war. We need sound economic policies, good global relations and to shift from a nation of consumers to one of moderation.

I've never felt clear that Hillary understands how to move us beyond our current circumstances.

I just cannot understand the folks who say they would vote for Mccain if Hillary loses. If you want change and you want someone liberal it doesn't make since. Why is nobody talking about the fact that McCain is a completely different person than he was when he was first running. He use to be the good choice next to Bush now he is the same. He has become just another puppet for the GOP and Evangeligal Christians who, by the way, have so much in common with Muslim extremist it is only natural that they hate each other. Listen I want Obama to win, but if he doesn't there is no way in hell I'm voting for Mr. Idenity change McCain.

In the end. Do what you want, but stop hating. There were some serious racist things being said above. I know some of you voters are mad because Jim Crow is over and you can't understand that skin is skin. I'm ranting now now. Go America the country where it is patriotic to be hypocritical.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!

OPERATION CHAOS!!!!!!!!!

It doesn't matter. John McCain is going to win the November election anyway. Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Many supporters of Senator Clinton have spent much of their adult life dreaming of her as president and it must be a bitter pill to see her lose. When we are angry and dissappointed we all can act childish and pull a "see what you made me do" routine. But I think Senator Clinton will do the right thing (this week?) and declare Sen. Obama the nominee and pledge to work 100% for him and urge her followers to do likewise. I believe all but the very fanatical and childish (1%?), once their dissappointment has passed, will do just that.

HI HO HI HO THE WICKED WITCHS CAMPAIGN IS DEAD. ITS ALL OVER HILARY. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR YOU ESPECIALLY IN VIEW OF HOW YOU HAVE MANAGED YOUR CAMPAIGN...9.3 MILLION IN THE BANK/10.3 MILLION IN DEBT, PLUS YOU HAD TO LOAN YOUR CAMPAIGN OVER 11 MILLION DOLLARS...AND YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S., YOU GOT TO BE CRAZY. LET ME GUESS WHICH DEBT IS PAID OFF FIRST. YOUR LIES AND BILLS LIES HAVE FINALLY FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. ALL YOUR CAMPAIGN HAS DONE IS TO EXPOSE YOU FOR THE LYING BACK STABBING WIN AT ALL COST PERSON YOU REALLY ARE AND TARNISHED YOUR HUSBANDS LEGACY, SUCH AS IT WAS. BOTH OF YOU HAD YOUR 15 MINUTES BUT I DO NOT WANT YOU TO GIVE UP. GO ON FIGHTING BECAUSE THE LONGER YOU CAMPAIGN THE DEEPER THE HOLE GETS. AFTER THIS PRIMARY YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ELECTED DOG CATCHER. SO LONG, GOOD BY ITS BEEN NICE TO KNOW YOU.

Hillary's so called "tenacity" is misplaced and destructive:it is time to quit so Obama can clean the white house from the Cheney/Bush garbage.

If someone were more electable, wouldn't they be... elected? What an odd argument to make. Hillary has less votes any way you slice it, yet she's the one who'll be able to get more votes?

Fantasyland must be a fun place to live...

Craftygal, the only thing I can say to you is - if you don't like the candidates in the primary parties vote for a third party. Will they win? Probably not. Have you voted your conscience? Yes.

That's what elections should be about: voting your conscience. No law says we need to vote, but people who don't at least try to elect someone they think will make things better really don't have a leg to stand on when they complain about the direction our government is headed.

I still want the country Hillary lives in .. it has all 50 states in it ... if it isnt obvious to people how truly ruthless obama is by blocking Michigan and Florida ...those states ( that is two states with millions of people and then he has the hubris to talk about how much he loves this country if they vote for him) then the people deserve to have another four years of the same .. a president who really doesnt care about anything but himself ; because if you look closely obama resembles bush more than any other candidate ... then they deserve what they get .. and if you miss the irony of the gas prices exploding again right after the results of the latest primary results .. then the next time you pull up to the gas station .. remember you voted for the guy who voted for Cheneys energy bill , and who has NO plan to go up against the oil people in this country .....happy summer everyone

I read Matt Drudge every morning just to see how many different ways he attempts to skew any potentially negative news stories about Hillary Clinton. It's great fun watching him contort and twist just about any item that refers to her.
Matt's keenly aware, as I'm sure you are, that once Hillary is President, she wont waste time cleaning up this rat's nest we call "the media".
Drudge can't stoop low enough, fast enough in an attempt to head this off as he knows he'll be first in line to have his taxes audited, his "lifestyle" exposed, and his misdeeds dealt with.
When Hillary is elected, I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

Hillary DOESN'T get it. She has tried to pander to your pocketbooks about dropping the Federal gas tax for the summer. Our roads and infrastructure need the $$. Every economist of repute has stated that it won't lower gas prices...only give more money to BIG OIL.

So many of you want to attack Obama. For what? Lack of experience? Listen...she has no experience prior to being a senator. She didn't dodge bullets in Serbia, she didn't help with the peace accords in Ireland and she couldn't even bring about a healthcare initiative. Hillary is NOT Bill. Experience is not gleaned by being married to someone.

Look around you. So many people are willing to step on and over other Americans to get ahead. We are getting our backsides kicked by the oil producing countries and associations with big oil, we have lost most of our manufacturing overseas and even our service jobs like customer support and engineering are being farmed out to India and Eastern Europe.

Which candidate is the one talking for working together. Trying to cross party devides. That actually will stick up for the U.S.? Put aside your 'Rah Rah' banners and closed thinking and figure out what is actually best for ALL of us.

Obama will be the nominee and he will beat Mccain. The "climate" for the presidential campaign will be very different from the primary. However, I do not think that she should quit even though I understand why many think she should. Obama is getting more recognition as the primary goes on; it is sort of a very good practice for the GE. If he can withstand Clinton, he will beat McCain rather handily.

Clinton and her supporters invested a lot in the primary. I do see her argument for at least getting the VP position. On the other hand, Obama has legitimate concerns for not picking her as VP. If they can mend fences, I predict that they will be an unbeatable, history-making duo in November.

Hillary should have quit a long time ago. She has exhibited a very stubborn nature at the cost of her own party. She does what SHE wants. Is this a healthy leader for a democracy? I don't think so. She has a very controlling nature. Get my drift?

Obama is intelligent, articulate, and is trying to be true to his values in the toxic arena of campaign politics. His record in the senate indicates that he is a man of compassion and sound judgement. His oratory is a gift certainly, but he is also an informed individual who can answer intelligent questions such as those that occur at community gatherings when they are posed.

Hillary is also brilliant, but I wonder what has happened to her soul along the way.

All this fighting within the dem party insures McCain's victory this November. A house divided against itself cannot stand, as the old saying goes. The day will belong to the Republicans.

Hillary,
It is time to be a great woman and back Obama. The Democratic party needs a strong unity and Obama can win the election if we all stick together and push forward now. Don't think of it as defeat but as a win for the party!

Haniel,

Put your special hard helmet back on, your stupidity is showing. The fact is you DO need those dems that feel slighted, ignored, cheated in order to WIN. But no matter, you will get your way, they are gone, have been for a long time, and didn't need your imbecile and infantile rant to figure out it was time to go and join a team that cared about the voters and not about their own fame.

"If you don't want to support the winner of the Dem primary, whoever they are, then get the hell out of our party!" Yeah, real mature agruement - What are you, seven? Well I will reply on your level with a "You are not the boss of me" and "My mom said I don't have to". I conclude with a stinging "stay off my property" just for good measure.

"Frankly these days I can't stand her, but I WILL vote for her in a NY second if she gets the nod. Which she won't. The numbers don't lie. Even though Hillary does."

Wow - don't even know where to start on that one. Vote for a known lying, cheating crook. By any chance are you a mafia member? Perhaps a terrorist in hiding?
Or maybe you are just a simple Sheep following a blind shepard. Open up and say Bahhhh!!!!

Robert G., "elitist" is believing you can pull one over on Americans with a charade like the federal gas tax holiday -- which, even were it to be of any use whatsoever to the average American, would face a certain veto. So, if someone thinks you are that dumb, don't you find it a little condescending?

None of us should be calling each other names. It's ridiculous. But just because people want to bristle at each other and support their choice for candidate and act childish, it's unfair to project that childishness on *any* of the presidential candidates and campaigns. Right?

I am a Democrat and I am not voting for Obama if he will be the nominee. Clinton is and will be my choice.

Under rational circumstances, it would be a given that I, one of millions of your Canadian neighbours, don't have a political stake in your primary contests and as such should not weigh in on what is a domestic affair. However, due to the fact that I have family living in Michigan, as well as the fact that your news media organizations seem zealously committed to globalizing every presidential candidates expression of cognititive flatulence and made over platitudes, I think I have earned the right to comment.

I too grow weary of the democratic primary contest and think that Hillary Clinton should concede, but not for seemingly victory laden arguments or logical reasons grounded in inevitability. As a people, there seems to be some form of mass hysteria sweeping through your cities and towns, a wave of willful blindness that has convinced you to buy a sow's ear masquerading as a silk, ebony pursue. Sometimes, people have to learn the hard way. Hillary Clinton should step aside and let the rigid path unfold as desired. George Bush was not the leader he aspired to be and neither is Mr. Obama.

Personally, I think that the American populace is so demoralized and wounded by global resentment, threats of terrorist attack, environmental disaster, painful lessons in guerilla warfare, and the shocking revelation that unchecked free market capitalism is not a messianic panacea deserving of blind worship, that you just need to feel good about yourselves. Electing the first black, male president just feels like something worthy of self congratulation.

As an interested observer, I think it ironic that Mr. Obama's message of "change and truth" is still being swallowed with glee, despite troubling character evidence contrary to his public facade. I find it likely and highly credible that Mr. Obama's operatives did express reassuring statements to Canadian officials regarding the discrpeancy between his public and private positions on the continuation of the NAFTA. In laymen terms he lied, and yet he is still perceived as a harbinger of integrity.

Finally, has anyone actually stopped to consider just how much of a change it will or will not be to elect Mr. Obama as president. Black man, yellow man, red or white, the common denomiator is testosterone. Wouldn't electing the first female president in the American political experiment be more akin to an institutional and policy revolution.

I sincerely wish all of my American friends and neighbours, even the disagreeable ones, luck. You are certainly going to need it.

P.S. I can't wait to see how the rest of the world's leaders, those who willingly embrace the bare knuckle, natural form of politics, respond to Mr. Obama's pacifist invitations to tea, alternative dispute resolution, motivational speeches and make over appearances on the Opra Winfrey show.

How can anyone say that Barack Obama is the best we can hope for after 8 years of George Bush. Not presidential, please.

Nannette

Perhaps its time for McCain to nominate Hillary for VEEP

Go operation Chaos!! Don't quit HRC, hang in there baby, we're all pulling for you now - But voting for JM in the fall.

AnnaMarie, you're not providing facts or background to your statements. You don't have to like Obama, but generally dismissing those who do, without any facts to back it up with, is weak and meaningless.
I have read his statements, have spent a considerable amount of time researching him, and came out with this: far from perfect, far from the universal savior, but he does speak the truth, he does want to represent the people and he is very much a true patriot, one who can see behind the blinders and assess where we are and where we have to go.
Clinton is nothing but pandering, lying and pretending. She should be a republican, she talks like one and uses their positions. Gas tax relief, what a joke. Health care, oh wait she failed miserably with her approach in the 90's. And she hasn't learned from it, or she would say WHAT she learned from it. She feels entitled to the presidency by the Clinton dynasty and the fact that she is a woman. Oh, the tears and the "I'm one of you", appealing to the LifeTime crowd... women should be pissed as hell for Clinton acting as a representative of the sex. She's anything but, one would hope.

Oh heck no don't step down Hillary!.. I don't have any love for the clintons but when it comes to voting for the lesser of two/three evils, I'll have to vote for Hillary. Ideally, and I note that someone else had the same idea, would be Powell/Rice.. Right on Condoleezza! I'd vote for her for pres any day! I WILL NEVER vote for obama. Any man who cannot and will not raise his hand to his heart or salute in the presence of this nations flag, has NO right to be it's commander in chief! Too many lives have been lost and too much blood has been spilled in defence of this country and her flag to suffer such disrespect by anyone. Obama can go back to Jakarta for all i care. (yes I know he was born in Hawaii)

This article title is the definition of bad journalism. Whether or not a candidate is behind, or might/should/would drop from a race, this sort of sensationalist title sways future results. If you want to report "Hillary loses NC", do so. If you want to become a pundit, do so and quit your job at an otherwise respectable newspaper. We already know that whoever can win the media will win elections and control the government; please don't make a broken system any worse.

throw in the towel hillary! maybe Obama will be kind enough to let you be his running-mate even after all you've done to tarnish the best potential to "get a democrat in the whitehouse!".

its over..it was over before nc and in..clintons knew this..it is time for clinton to drop out..and anyone who votes for mccain..i just hope you are young enough to be drafted..because you will be in iran..

YES SHE CAN quit

What's with is crap of Obama can't win in November?! Have you not been paying attention to the 10's of 1000's of new dem voter registrations over these months? Not all, and probably not most of them are racist, stupid, intellectually lazy and fall for her republican smears of a fellow Dem. Stop drinking the kool-aid. John Kennedy was elected a young President and we all revere him today. Lapel pins? Rev Wright? "Osama-Obama"? What in the hell is wrong with you people?

And speaking of OBL...7 years $1 trillion, 4067 soldiers dead, over 30,000 catastrophically wounded, and al GW has done is line the pockets of his cronies while the rest of us peasants get the pinch.

Get ahold of yourselves, Democrats! Support the nominee, even if you have to punch that card with gritted teeth. Trust me. You'll get over it.

Why would anyone preferred Hillary Clinton (a person of corruptions, lies, power thirsting and divisive) to represent the United States of America? Are Americans at the point in history where we have devolved to this level of disgrace and a lack of integrity?

I thought we had enough of this with the Bush year. God Bless America!

It is painfully disappointing to see and hear Hillary supporters threaten to vote for Mccain if Obama wins the nomination. It seems to demonstrate the kind of leadership Clinton exhibits: divisive. To many people. it comes off as juvenile: "If I don't get my way then you can't get yours!" I know there will be many posts defending this type of decision with all the typical talking points: "He's a racist! Jermiah Wright! No Experience!" etc, but that too is disappointing. Obama is fighting a noble battle: to convince us all that we don't have to resort to such small mindedness. We can actually be bigger than that. We can listen to each other and produce results together that would never have come about had we wasted our time bickering. Obama is not perfect, he's not the messiah, but he just might be the democratic nominee. So, Hillary supporters, I beg you to consider getting outside of your box and rallying behind a man that stands for many of the same things as your candidate. If Hillary wins, I will do the same.

This already became like OBAMA VS RUSH LUMBOUGH and not CLINTONS.

If she needs money only, she should get out and cut a deal.

DNC, ARE YOU SLEEPING WITH ENEMY?

i'm really baffled by why people think Obama is unelectable. i can only attribute it to the heat of the campaign.

Obama and Clinton are almost identical in their policy positions, only differing in certain details, such as whether universal healthcare should be mandated or not. an important distinction, but it's the same ball park, and you have to realize that none of the proposals they suggest are going to actually become legislation as is. any plans they come up with on the campaign trail will eventually have to go through congress and be compromised.

the major difference between the two isn't really even experience, it's personality. i can understand people not liking Obama's personality and style, and i even understand the question surrounding the Wright issue. i don't particularly like Clinton and have questions about her as well, but to say that makes one or the other unelectable strikes me as qutie cynical. you either believe that american politics has completely been overtaken by the cult of personality, or that there is a hidden fear and racism still under the surface in this country that will be roused by Obama's nomination, or both. in the end it's going to come down to what affects people's lives, and right now that's the economy.

both of these candidates offer better economic policies for middle and working class americans than McCain who, for all his supposed maverick tendencies, has mostly taken straight up conservative republican positions: make the tax cuts for the wealthiest americans permanent, give big business tax breaks and no oversight/regulation, keep healthcare privatized, appoint conservative judges ot the supreme court and overturn roe v. wade, continue our presence in Iraq indefinitely. seriously, clinton supporters, that's who you'd switch your vote to as representative of your values? that would help working class people during a recession? even Clinton herself wouldn't go down that road.

please, everyone just take a minute to calm down and think about the issues.

I am disgusted by the many, typically anti-Obama people who are so un-American and nasty. For those few Obama people who are that way, stop, that's not Obama's messge. I don't like either the right or the left, but realize they are necessary. However, it is time to dismiss the lies and fabrications of the extremes, like Limbaugh, Hannity and their ilk. The end justifies the means is not American. The God, on whose behalf you feel you can lie and even kill for is the same one all Christians, including Catholics, the Jewish people and the Muslims worship and He is not happy with any of this. Also stop ruining His planet and His creation. If you ask WWJD, He would be against the Iraq war, against the greed of the rich, although supportive of two of the richest, Gates and Buffet, who want to give back, and dead set against the insane partisanship. It is time for we Americans to act like Americans. Let's have civil discourse on the issues and do what made us great, instead of all the sillines that just tears us down.

Remember the time before the primaries and caucases? Everyone said Hillary was the front runner and no one including Barack stood a chance to win against her. All the polls showed Hillary ahead of all other candidates. What happend than?

Why is the same argument and same polls are being used to disqualify him as someone who has a little chance to win against McCain! Give him a chance...he has started a movement and millions have jumped on his wagon. He has made it so far even when all odds were against him. I think he will do the same against McCain and will have a landslide victory in general elections. I think its just another distraction tactic by the Clintons!

All of you who think Hillary is more electable against McCain, please keep in mind that Rush Limbaugh asked Republicans in Indiana to vote for Hillary.

What Hillary has shown me about herself and why I believe it is time for her to step down and stop embarrassing herself.

She is absolutely no good with money.

She is jumps on bandwagons that have no wheels - REPUBLICAN Gas Tax Holiday idea.

She has told the american public in not so many words that she Lied to our Faces numerous times, but vote for me anyway.

She would rather play a dirty game of politics than to stick to a "platform".

She has a thirst for destruction - "willing to use nuclear weapons against Iran"

I know for a FACT that I am supporting someone who WILL CLEAN UP WASHINGTON D.C. and rebuild our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Senator BARACK OBAMA for PRESIDENT!!!

With Senator Obama as its candidate, the appeal of the Democratic Party will be considerably narrowed. Last night, a couple of the CNN analysts (so called) mentioned that members of the party were beginning to question whether white middle class votes were actually needed in order for the party to win. Obama supporters should certainly hope these voters are not needed, because there is sure to be a large defection in the fall. The disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan voters will also be remembered in the fall. The most positive thing in all of this is that if we must have another Republican president, Senator McCain is the best of the lot. Many Democrats will regard him as a better choice than Senator Obama, even if Senator Clinton is willing to accept the VP slot (which I hope she will not).

It was a mistake. We have to quit now.

Please apply to all situations and events.

No wonder Hillary has so many wanting her to quit. They quit at everything. I expect them to quit for McCain.

"Oh my. It is fixed. We can not win."

Lions and tigers and bears.

Wow, some people on here say they would never vote for Obama. Makes me think, you must of been a stubborn child, and cried so much when you didn't get the candy you asked for when you were a little kid. Or maybe your just racist. There was a poll that said some people will not vote for him because of his race. I think some people on here fit in that category. Or maybe your just a super rich guy or gal who likes for rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer. I will vote for Obama. And I will encourage all my friends here in San Francisco to also do so. One thing I am curious about is now that more people are using there bikes than driving their car, and more people are buying smaller cars than bigger ones which of course uses less gas, and also much more carpooling is going on here in the bay area and I'm sure across the country why is gas still going up. Isn't there less demand for gas than before, hmmm, just makes me wonder.

I think you people in the media need to shut up. We still have Michigan and Florida to consider too.

I don't know why Clinton's supports won't support Obama- their policies are practicality identical the only difference between Obama and Clinton is that Obama is younger, better looking, more charismatic and a better speaker. It would be stupid for Clinton supports to vote for McCain and against Obama in the Gen Election. McCain is the opposite of Obama and Clinton!!

I think that the people who say Michelle Obama will not be a suitable 1st lady are racist, regardless of why they THINK they feel this way. She is a black woman, and not a pretty, white looking Halle Berry type of black woman either, but just a regular sister with processed hair and brown skin. I am white and I for one can't wait to see this woman in the White House! This is the future, people so wake up. I am white, btw, and even if those putting down MO are people of color it is still racist and self hating.

I really do not understand the Old people on this board who are Hillary supporters. Is it so hard to think that a black man could win this thing because he is honest and has a vision for this country that more people than not agree with. It should tell you something when the educated and the young believe in something that the old has become to bitter to accept. That is that America has problems that cannot be fixed by one person or one groups ideas any longer. This is OUR country. Working together we can make change. Bitter old fools get over yourselves. You are dying off...let us repair your mistakes.

Never doubt the level of stupidity of the American Public. Look at what it has produced: an irreversibly-decadent, freedom-eroding, corporate welfare state.

It is Electability, stupid. The superdelegates should overturn all these Obama wins and damn the consequencies. Obama wins red caucus states that will not be there for him general election, hence factoring them in DEM primary is insane and illogical. The black voters will not be going to GOP in Novemeber because that will be like from frying pan to fire. Obama will not win PA, FL, OH, NH in Nov.

If Hillary Clinton is not nominateed I would have to vote for republicans, and I hate it. Go Hillary Go.

Interestingly enough, Dems are lost in the fairly-tale la-la land of "Change" and "Hope". With an economy so messed up by Dubya, a couple stagnant wars on our hands and a collapsing financial system - we need more than a good orator to set things in order. While Sen. Obama is a good orator - I doubt he will be able to talk the housing market back into shape. Unfortunately Obama is just that - all talk. Sure people can talk about hope and change - but how much does he *know* in order to effect that change? I understand that he will get all the black vote for primarily racial reasons and non-black votes from those that like hearing fairly tales. However, what is his experience on record against opponents like McCain? Let's see ... McCain -> decorated veteran yada yada, Obama -> Good orator. Hmm ...
Democrats are making a huge mistake, yet again, by throwing up a candidate whose appeal is limited to his oratorial skills - which compared to Dumbo Dubya - are far superior. However, he can't talk his way to getting our boys back from Iraq. All talk and no action makes a salesman - not a president. We made a huge mistake by pairing Lieberman with Gore that lead to the current disastrous White House. Let's not be shy about Lieberman killing the White House bid in 2000. We, the Dems are about to do it again by throwing up a candidate who will not have mass appeal and will not win the majority vote let alone the collegial. God save America.

Wow. Just reading these comments made me realize a sad truth, that as much as we need change in this country, Obama or Hillary, white america is still racist enough to vote for Republican simply to keep the Democrats out of office. Not because they are interested in Mcains' issues, but because they are interested in keeping anyone that doesn't fit the W.A.S.P image they are so comfortable with. With the economy in the toilet, gas prices out of control, failed policies, and a President that lied to us for 8 years, you would still let your ignorance overpower rationale, morals, and brutal reality.
Shame on you White America

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I have a funny joke:

Q:How many years does it take for Hillary to realize she's being selfish?

A: 100. She'll realize it when the war in Iraq is over.

Should Hillary quit?

Perhaps the candidate who has won every debate should quit. While Mr. Obama held his own, it was clear he never won a single debate.

Does she owe it to the American people to give them every chance to pick the right person?

Give them every opportunity to imagine what life will be like in America if the economy crashes?

No she doesn't - spend her own money - to keep her campaign going? No she doesn't.

Is she doing it just for the glory, the power? - she would have quit a long time ago. The humiliation a proud person experiences losing to someone of lesser qualifications is extremely painful and Mr. Obama has beaten her many times due to a God given gift of eloquence that is a beautiful thing to listen to.

Hillary like Mr. Obama and most of us loves this country - sure she has her faults - we all do.

However, she is the best candidate because she is the only one of the three candidates that understands the global economy - and without a strong economy you can't be a dominate world power for long.

QUIT COMPLAINING AND DO SOMETHING YOURSELF TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. PUT AN END TO GREED AND PURSUE TRUTH. WE ARE BOTH PART OF THE PROBLEM AND SOLUTION, PUT YOUR MONEY AND TIME WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

We have all been riding this emotional roller coaster for over the past year, and finally the end is in sight. Obama has locked up the nomination and it doesn't matter if Hill wants to continue or not. The idea that the Democratic Party has been injured beyond repair is a tool being employed by the Right to paint a picture of chaos and instability among our Party. To those of you who say Obama is not electable, get past your own narrow-minded views and look to the bigger picture. We have a great candidate that will bring about the change in course that this country so desperately needs. And if your waiting for some bombshell to drop on Obama to sideline his momentum, please don't hold your breathe. If Obama can get past Wright, "Bitter", and Ayers and still continue to find success then there is nothing that can stop him. I am looking forward to the sight of Obama's Inauguration, with 100,000 plus Americans screaming "Yes We Can!" God Bless Obama in his pursuit of the Presidency! God Bless America!

hey your like totally awesume we need u in office!!! o ya baby!!

Hillary totally rocks. like, completely. i love her!!! woo hoo! go hillary!!!!!!!!! YEA!

I particularly enjoy the die-hard Clinton supporters who pledge to vote Republican. Won't they feel silly when they learn that Senator Clinton has cut a back-room deal with Senator Obama and the DNC executives.

Her supporters are happy to go down with the ship; HRC is already fastening her life-preserver.

Is very sad how the Democrats kill each others.People from this party do not see
deeper, especially young voters.They got
emotionally just follow the fresh the new
the style the rethoric.In my opinion they
choose the wrong person (for be a president Mr Change" change for what "for
better o worse" in my point of view if Hillary is not nominated for the democrats
party.In november they are lost againts the
Republican.Mr. Change has to wait in the
wainting list He is too young without experience He has to learn more even if he is backup for experience senators that play againts the clinton's.You will see if
super delegates do not nominated Mrs. Clinton ,Democrats still waiting others four (4th) years to got the Presidency.
then the winner is BIg Mac.

Hillary is the backup point guard who purposefully takes out the starter in practice so she can play in the state championship game. Sometimes you gotta remember what that the goal is for the team to succeed, not the individual.

I could never vote for BO or HC. I don't like McCain, either. Where does that leave me? It leaves me in a conundrum, that's where. My choice for the next President of the United States is...Condoleezza Rice. She's an absolutely fabulous potential candidate. If it was a McCain/Rice ticket, I WOULD vote for that. I would prefer if it were switched, but I could live with that. Otherwise, I've no idea what I'll do with my vote this November.

AnnaMarie...go away and take Hillary with you. Nobody wants you or your ilk in the Democrat or Republican party. You are a very venomous and obviously slow woman. Have a great day!

I would love to see a women as president of the United States. Just not Hillary.

I think she should continue but I think
democrats who do not want Obama nor the DNC to start a competing democratic party.

The country is not going in the right direction and for us to contiue with this phoney government and sham parites is lethal for democracy.

Either we form another party and make it grow and for the time being vote for Mccain in November.

HILLARY I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are only 2 things wrong with Hillary. Her style and her content.

Should Hillary Quit? No, not Rocky! LOL She doesn't have to quit because it is mathematically impossible for her to win and if she's as intelligent as we think, she knows that. It's simply time for her to show the class she was born with and start grooming Chelsea. I still give her an A for effort and thank her for opening the door wider than ever for women of all races. GO OBAMA!!!!!!

I am absolutely thrilled Obama will be the nominee. That pretty much guarantees I can look forward to sayinng "President McCain".

"If you don't want to support the winner of the Dem primary, whoever they are, then get the hell out of our party! The dems don't need you, you wishy-washy whiners!"

Exactly the kind of obnoxious, elitist Obama supporter who will cause the Democrats to lose in Nov.

I am writing to HILLARY. HILLary you will be agood president of the united states of America. OUR country needs to get george Busch out of the WHITE HOUSE! EVERY BODY wanted him in office that is a REpbulican!!!!!!!! HE sent alot of our soldiers over to IRQUE!! alot of our soldiers got killed while over there. I'm sure some people think that is was not george Busch fault butt i think it was. IF they was'nt over there they would not have got kiiled. I'ts time to change from the worse to the better.

Did you guys listen to Joe Scarborough,this morning? He predicts the Dems will sweep everything come November and Republicans should start coming to terms with that. So all those who think Obama has no chance to be President are dead wrong. Look guys, who would have thought that an unknown small time first term junior Senator with a weird name will come out from no where and put an end to the Clinton Era. In the same way that is what we will come to realize in November. He will be President and the world will be stunt. He has proven to be attack proof than most thought and will weather the republican attack barrage in the same way. America, times have changed and it is time to now come to the bitter truth that an African American will be President of the United States of America.

I really don't understand all this negativity towards Obama. Clinton has complained all along that he has out-spent her. He has appealled to thousands of supporters to fill his coffers to outspend her! I've seen enough of Clinton to know that if she gets in, it will be politics as usual. If she should, I would still vote for her. How can you hate Obama so badly? I do NOT want four more years of "BUSH" policies.

Politics....such a funny thing! at this point anything is better than BUSH!!! A change is needed...and it has to be democratic...no matter who is in office!!! Nothing will change with a republican!!! Look at the bigger picture. It can't get worse.

Fact:

Hillary won Indiana through Republican cross-overs and voter gullibility.

Hillary can drop out of the race whenever she wishes. I think it probably makes sense for her to do so now, but if she's convinced Obama will screw up irredeemably between now and the end of the race, fine. But if he remains ahead in the popular vote and the pledged delegates on June 3, as it now appears certain he will be, and there hasn't been a monumental collapse of his candidacy... at that point I think she has to drop out of the race.

Helen L.

You might be the most naive individual I have ever seen post a message. You should really keep your uneducated thoughts to yourself, you look like an idiot.

Hillary is the most dirty, unethical, crooked, two-faced, unintelligent, uncaring, selfish, bigotted candidate that has run for office that I have ever seen. It is amazing that she is still in the race when she should be sharing a jail cell with some big woman named Fat Flo.

The DNC is making this to easy for the GOP. Neither "Billary" nor Barak "Osama" Obama can win. The DNC might have had a slim chance with Sen. Edwards, but that chance has come and gone.

Looks like 4-8 more years of GOP domination in the executive branch.

People, why would she stop now as a ferocious fighter and forever be labeled as a no good, lazy quitter? Rear fighting people who run out of money never stop just because they are broke. Serious politicians who cannot garner enough votes do not ever cease the fight regardless of insult or injury. Unpopular individuals with spunk never let the distain from others deter their objectives. Really, --really smart people know that the fight is more valuable and sweeter than any success. Many people know when to get out of the rain and others simply rationalize that they need a bath anyway. Did everybody notice Bill and his red face at the "Waiting for Godot" victory lap in Indiana last night? Wow, I am surprised that he did not blow-out one of his new bypass vessels or have a stroke. Seriously, he was either drunk or irate and my guess is that he was mad because the NC beating was especially telling and brutal. He needs to be careful as that old horse is being ridden hard as he had to visit every porcine rib joint in NC last week. Odds are that there might have been a receptive nubile slinging ribs or sweating in a lawn chair along that route. I joke of course but someone would need to explain to me why Bill Clinton is out in the piney woods of NC lecturing to a few hundred people over ten stops for rational campaign strategy or reason. Makes no political sense and it seems to me that he prefers the back swamp towns because he can avoid the big media scrutiny and behave normally He believes that every porcine he missed is a piece that he will never get.

This has got to be one of the longest train wrecks I've ever seen...and about as much fun to watch.

Forget the candidates...read the words of their supporters. We're no doubt a nation of imbeciles and freaks.

I think the long charged nomination is a good thing. You realize that many states now have more registered democrats than total registered voters in 2006?

What is critical for all this to work is for Hillary to make a convincing concession and endorsement for Obama sometime mid June. She screwed up a lot of stuff with her ads and name calling, so I expect that she is going to have a hard time getting her base to throw themselves behind Obama. If she fails to do this, her political career is over.

Also, to those of you who think Obama is somehow "unelectable", realize that there is 10 times more dirt on Hillary than there ever was on Obama. She would get eaten alive by republicans. The reason you don't see any of that is because Obama has some self respect, and McCain would love to see Hillary win the nomination.

The longer HRC stays in this, the more she proves to the nation that she cares nothing for the party and cares only about her sense of entitlement. This woman seems to believe that the presidency is owed to her and she will stop at nothing to be crowned/elected regardless of who it hurts. At this rate, we are going to end up saddled with McCain for 4 years.

Doesn't anyone know the definition of a Pyrrhic victory?

Obama's won one. What makes it Pyrrhic is that all his "wins" mean nothing -- he's bound to lose in November. Simple demographics.

There is a lot of dirt on Obama still left to be sifted. You can be sure it will be done with a fine-toothed comb by the RNC. Those states Obama's been carrying in the Midwest and South will be Republican Red in the fall.

Enthusiastic blacks and aggressive young students do not make a reliable base for a candidacy. McGovern, anyone?

Skewed primaries in Southern states with large black populations do not indicate electability. Raving college fanboys who've never voted before may seem impressive at campaign rallies, but they have fickle attention spans.

And these annoying Obamaphiles remind me more and more of Ron Paul's insane clown posse. (I thought moonbats didn't believe in the Messiah?) Obama's savage online mob acts like Scientologists -- vituperative, dogmatic, and reflexively defensive.

I wanted to see Hillary Clinton do better than she has, not so shabbily treated by the clique of Dems all caught up in "the first viable black candidacy". Clearly race carries more feelgood karma than gender for Democrats. After watching this theater of the absurd, I'd have to be crazy to vote Democrat. Trust my future to identity-politicians? No way.

If Obama were sincere and not such a blatant panderer, I might have given him a look, but his 20 years of sitting in Wright's amen-corner have made him unpalatable to all but the irrational. Also, he's about the single most left-wing senator in the bunch. (Bipartisan uniter? ROFL! Racial healer? LMAO!!)

Nope. Obama won't get this independent's vote.

I'm educated. These are some of the things that Obama has said that makes me "want it as a president" (sic).

"Today we are engaged in a deadly global struggle for those who would intimidate, torture, and murder people for exercising the most basic freedoms. If we are to win this struggle and spread those freedoms, we must keep our own moral compass pointed in a true direction."

...or I also like, "We need to steer clear of this poverty of ambition, where people want to drive fancy cars and wear nice clothes and live in nice apartments but don't want to work hard to accomplish these things. Everyone should try to realize their full potential."

...and this one I think is good too, "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America."

I don't have any insider knowledge regarding what Mr. Obama is "really like" as AnnaMarie does, but given the three candidates left standing he appears to be the brightest. I'm voting "bright" this time around.

I think is is more wise to vote for the best person, not just the person who can "supposedly" win in November. You do the integrity of a democracy an injustice to vote on who you think can we down the road instead of you you think is the best person regardless of their ability to be a "sure thing." Most arguments I read here are a part of the reason we have a weak democracy and have been run over by the ruling class. The number one biggest mistake most voters make is voting on a single issue, and second voting on emotion. Lets put the country first, not our short comings. KNOW THE FACTS & VOTE TRUTH.

If the rules mean anything, there is almost no chance that Hillary can win and all of the Obama naysayers are wasting their time.

If the rules don't mean anything, then Al Gore has a good chance of winning, doesn't he? He's got better experience than both candidates combined. He was awarded the nobel prize for his leadership on environmental issues.

To award the win to Hillary after she has clearly lost would cause such a profound rift the general election would be in jeopardy. Al Gore already won the presidency once in 2000 until the Supreme Court took it away, so he can clearly win again.

Of course I write in jest - I'm just pointing out how you can make a case for anyone being the nominee if the rules don't mean anything.

It's A Sign, Hillary: Creator of 'Rocky Road' Dies'
HILLARY, I LOVE YA HON. You're the one who teaches little girls that they can play ball with the big boys. The one who shows older woman there are possibilities beyond fetching beer for the hubby and scrubbing toilets. You're proof that women can choose something else other than the slow inexorable slide toward death in a nursing home in our later years. And you know something about 'inexorable,' Hillary: its other definition is relentless. And, yet, Hil, it's over.

It could be mere coincidence that the news that the co-founder of Baskin-Robbins, Irvine Robbins, who created the chewy cold confection known as "Rocky Road,'' hit the web Tuesday. Crabby, who confesses to be superstitious, thinks not.

Even as the news broke of your nail-biter finish in Indiana, and your stomping in North Carolina, you were still feeding her dream:

Dear E.

Tonight's victory in Indiana was close, and a margin that narrow means just one thing: every single thing you did to help us win in Indiana helped make the difference.

Every call you made, every friend you spoke to about our campaign, every dollar you contributed made tonight's victory possible. And I couldn't be more thankful for your hard work.

Every time we've celebrated a victory, we've celebrated it together. And tonight is no exception. This victory is your victory, this campaign is your campaign, and your support has been the difference between winning and losing.

Thank you so much for making this campaign possible. Let's keep making history together.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

I'm still willing to dream along, Hillary. But you can't have any more of my money. I'm barely able to scrape together the few crumbs to feed my own delusions (think early 401K withdrawals!) and you've got $109 million in the bank.

The road has been treacherous, and you have traveled it well and far. But it looks like you won't make it to the finish line first. Unless you can rightly convince Floridians and Michiganders that their votes have been stolen from the same people who were so outraged by the Republican machine's sandbagging of them. And, yes, Crabby does believe in miracles. But maybe...now...is...the...time...to ...surrender. The sky will open wide, the road will become smooth and clear, and maybe you'll still have time to become part of history..
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"You can not change hate to love.

Posted by: jy2008 | May 7, 2008 10:53 AM "

Of course you can.

I think you all miss the point! Hillary knows she can't win. She is staying in to make certain Barack doesn't win. Then McCain gets elected and Hillary is in great position for 2012. If you think she cares about the party or Barack, all I can say is "Don't drink the Kool-Aid!"

I can see it being Obama and McCain in the end, but it still unnerves me to think Obama might win the election. He has wowed many people with his oratory skills but when you look past that for substance you come up empty. He is touting change, but he just seems like another politician, changing with the wind to woo as many voters as possible. Very worrisome that intelligent people in the US would fall for that kind of man. Keep your eyes and ears and conscience open. I also want to add that Michelle Obama is not First Lady material--she would make a mockery of that position with her negativity toward this country and her lack of patriotism.
Much as both of them want us to think otherwise, they do not understand the largest percentage of Americans: the blue-collar workers and the "underprivileged".

I have been voting Republican my whole life. But the last eight years have taught me the dangers my habit. McCain? No way in hell! Because he was a POW half a century ago? That is a sad excuse for a resume. His opportunistic Bush-hugging, war-mongering, and pledge to continue the war ad-inifinitum are assinine. He needs to retire and con the other old folks in the retirement community with his "straight talk". I bet they won't buy it either.

If you don't want to support the winner of the Dem primary, whoever they are, then get the hell out of our party! The dems don't need you, you wishy-washy whiners!

I used to be a Hill supporter until I got a gut full of her Rove-Bush tactics she has been pulling on a fellow Dem. She needs to quit the party and be McBush's running mate. Frankly these days I can't stand her, but I WILL vote for her in a NY second if she gets the nod. Which she won't. The numbers don't lie. Even though Hillary does.

I donated to the Hillary campaign again last night. She needs to go on and fight in West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico. She is a real inspiration. I believe this campaign has made her a better human being and highlighted her wonderful qualities. She is brilliant, passionate, and dedicated. I admire her strength and tenacity. To all the people who wanted her do give up after the Iowa caucus... here's to a few more primaries!!!

Stick a fork in her, she's done.

Yes, it is time to step out.

It is clearly apparent that Hillbillary and company is staying in the race to destroy Obama.

The 'Self-Interest' of "YES, SHE WILL" rather than the Obama mantra of 'Yes, We Can' reads volumes into the selfish Neo-Conservative nature of the Hillbillary camp.

The United(Disjointed) States of America needs unity, not the divisive lobbyist ~ big money takes all ugliness that the Clintons bring to the table.

So Obama can't win over McCain in the general election??

That's not what the averages of the polls say:

Obama over McCain by 2.2 percent.

I've been a lifelong Republican, but there's no way that I can bring myself to vote for a dishonest, flip-flopper like McCain. His pandering seems to know no end. Maybe I don't agree with all of Obama's policay positions, but at least we'll have someone honest (a REAL straight-talker) as the POTUS who can finally unite this country and get past all of this partisan bickering that has been increasing for years.

Hillary is even more dishonest than "Dishonest John" and nothing but a political monkey whose only concern is power for herself. It's obvious that she doesn't care about her own party, because if she did she would have dropped out ages ago. I doubt she cares much about the average American either except to get their vote to gain power for herself.

Joe and Tom are exactly the reason why I will not vote for Obama. His supporters are so obnoxious and elitist and so ungraceful in victory that I could never vote for anything candidate they support.

yea, obama,
all white people will rather vote McCain than you.
go Hillary

NO HILLARY!!!
YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!!!
WE NEED YOU AND WE CAN NOT HAVE A BARACK OBAMA!!! HE IS GOING TO RAISE GAS PRICES AND SPURGE EVERYTHING OUT OF CONTROL!!! WE NEED YOU!!! AND MCCAIN WILL MAKE THE WORLD COME TO AN END!!!

So Obama can't win the General Election??

That not what the averages of the polls say:

Obama over McCain by 2.2 percent.

Hmmmm?

Obama took on Hillary in a "democratic" primary. He came from being a nobody to defeating the inevitable candidate. Wheter or not the media is responsible or other factors are in his favor, is not really of importance. If this is what he can do to the favorite candidate, imagine what he can do to McCain, whom the republicans compromised on.
P.S:- I am in favor of a smaller government, and more local government and lower federal taxes. But Obama appeals to me.

It's clear that Hilary won't win enough of the delegates or popular vote to win the nomination fairly. If Hilary Clinton somehow manages to get the Democratic nomination, it would be like watching Florida in 2000 all over again (stolen election). Would the DNC actually allow that? And if so, do Clinton supporters actually believe that the majority of Obama supporters would just say, "OK, even though you've stolen the nomination, I'll vote for you"? You've got to be kidding me.

It is amazing some are so excited about NC.

When Uncle Wright said you are attacking black church what do you expect from NC? Uncle Wright was making public call before NC primary and he deserves VP spot.

But hate is hate. You can not change hate to love.

This place is crawling with Republican sock puppets trying to sow dissent.

I love the passion here of the supporters of all the candidates.

However, I do hope that someday you all will be smart enough to understand that the figurehead at the head of the parties make absolutely no difference. The system itself is broken because it has be subverted by greedy, self-absorbed monsters on all sides.

And these so called "leaders" need each other to play their chosen roles to "fight for the common citizen" via the standard scripted soap-opera we call elections. This process distracts the populace from doing anything real to help the country by making sure that what should be the most revered and honored system of choosing leaders in the world becomes nothing more than a Monday Night Football game where we choose sides and root for a team.

What I want to know is who (if anyone) will take care of the mess that was created before I was old enough to vote:

1. Social Security that will require me to pay upwards of 40% of my salary in order to keep the greedy Baby Boomers on the golf course in their nice retirement that they stole from me.

2. A medical system that was good enough to let the W.W. II and Boomer generations gain enormous health benefits, but now is "too expensive" for my generation.

3. A failing education system that has made sure that a huge number of the people in my generation will be kept at indentured servitude levels of skills.

4. A failing national infrastructure, the replacement of which was always a second tier priority because it wouldn't fail during the Boomer's lifetimes, so it was yet another way to make future generations pay for the current national kegger to which we weren't invited.

If any candidate would even own up to these issues, I would vote for them in a heartbeat. But none have, and of course, none will.

So keep cheering for your chosen candidate! YEA! GO TEAM! When nothing substantive changes, you will at least know why.

Time For Hillary to continue the race.

Yes, Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

The Demos are fools and morons to ever think a black will ever get into the WH. Come on and worst they put up a rookie , a good talker with little to show and try their luck at it. Obama may be lucky once but not twice. In terms of standing,patriotism, experience, sacrifice and other credentials necessary for the job, Obama is as thin as ice,nowhere comparable to McCain

It's over. Hillary ran a great race but even she knows she cannot win. It was obvious her speech last night was forced.

Her campaign is out of money, options, and rope. Even if she tried to force Michigan and Ohio to be seated as voted, few of her supporters on the Rules Committee will be willing to commit political suicide voting her way.

The Democratic legislators in both states almost voted unanimously for moving their primaries knowing full and well it would jeopardize their delegates. Hillary was in favor of stripping both state's delegates before Super Tuesday. With that in mind, everyone needs to stop crying about these delegates. They will be seated but not by the results of the uncontested elections.

The Super Delegates will start aligning themselves with Obama this week and Hillary will be forced to concede. Her and her supporters need to keep their eye on the ball and unify behind Obama to prevent four more years of the fiasco we've experienced over the past eight years.

Go Democrats!! Take back the White House!!

A very good analysis of the various points of view. Although it was not always pleasant, in my lifetime (55 years) I've not witnessed a prior election which offered so many candidates a legitimate shot at nomination. It is too bad there are so many people who feel the need to spew venom at their opponents or get angry when their favorite candidate loses. As a Republican (leaning for Obama) I don't think John McCain has any intention of repeating the catastrophic blunders of George W. Bush. His statements regards the Katrina disaster are strong indicator that he recognizes how much damage Bush has done to this country, and he's willing to say so.

May I suggest that we celebrate the fact that two good men are offering to lead this country at perhaps the most difficult moment in it's history. Let them state their views as to how best to do that, and let the voters decide which one they prefer. But could we do all that without demonizing either one of them?

We are slightly less than 5% of 6.6-billion people on this planet. We need to start thinking and acting like a team, and live up to the ideals on which this country was founded. This lifeboat we call Earth is overloaded and taking on water (literally). We need to reclaim the moral high ground we've lost, and lead the world in confronting the monumental problems that face all of us: climate change, natural resource depletion, poverty, and ignorance; or face the possibility of a long dark age that will certainly ensue if we fail.

Bow out, Billary.....Bow out before you ruin any chance for the democrats to take the presidency with your divisive politicking.

For all those who express a desire to vote for McSame in the general election as 'punishment' for Obama winning the Democratic nomination, think about it for a second. With Democrats holding a growing majority in both the House & Senate, and with a Republican holding the presidency, nothing will get done AT ALL for the next 4 to 8 years. The Democrats will stonewall anything that a Republican president puts forward (as they have for the past year, since winning the majority in '06), and that Republican president will veto anything the Democrats advance. Who will get the blame for this standstill ?

It will be the Democrats that will get the blame for a 'do nothing' congressional session. And where will that blame lead to ? The ejection of the democrats in both houses of Congress in the next election.

And where will that lead to ? A presidency and congress once again dominated by republicans and a further erosion in American's basic civil rights.

Do you really want that nightmare of 4 years ago repeated ?

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Hey, Obama...RIDE OUT!

I will never ever vote for you!!!

Don't Give Up Hillary. You are world's new hope, dear.

I don't think she could quit, at least now. Even though it's obvious that Obama will win the nomination, the States that remain should have a chance to vote in this historic primary. When primaries are decided early, people feel that they've been disenfranchised. I think it was wrong to the voters of Michigan and Florida that their vote was discounted (and, certainly, what happened to the voters in Florida in 2000)and it would be wrong to, essentially, discount the voters of the remaining six States left in the primary. Finish the primary season. Then, she can decide to concede for the sake of the party.

it seems the democrats are so disgusted with Bush they have resorted to backing Obama sad because he can not win in Nov. not because he is black but because he is either spineless or just dumb on the people he associates with .Can you imagine it took him 20 years to move away from Wright how long will it take him to make a wise choice as president that concerns USA I will change to republican in Nov. and vote for McCain. Even Obama's wife insulted our country with that remark she made about never being proud of our country until Obama was doing well in the election. There is no question on McCain being proud of our country. I think alot of democrats are going to jump ship in Nov. and elect McCain the next president.

I am 37 years old and have never voted not even once in my life. Presidency is just a money and power issue. Why vote? They have pretty much made it pointless to vote. Why? Why vote for anyone that is going to support other countries before they fix their own countries problems/issues, such as medical, child support, homeless, and the list goes on and on.

What has been revealed about Obama can be summarized.
- a candidate with views and values which are not shared by the majority of the population.
- a candidate [and wife] with unpatriotic views and deep rooted anti-white feelings and doctrines.
- a candidate [and wife] with elitist attitudes.
- a candidate who can "fool" only half of the Democratic voters all of the time.
- a candidate with political views skewed to the extreme "left".
- a candidate who is long on rhetoric and short on experience and solutions.
- a candidate who, in the general election, will lose 25% of the democratic vote. (approx. 1/2 of the Hillary voters.)

All of the above make Obama UNELECTABLE in the general election. [Hillary is right.]

I would just like to throw my voice into the fray and let y'all know I fully support Hillary Clinton and all the hard working, experienced First Ladies out there who know they can be president! Hillary, you are an inspiration for us all and I wish you the best of luck. You go girl, paving the road for all us ladies who know "Yes We Can"!

Does it really matter who gets elected? We are going to complain about whoever is in office regardless. I do think Hillary should bow out gracefully but then again when has she ever done anything gracefully? She is only worried about herself not anyone else or the good of the country.

Our partisan politics are destroying this country. I see people who vote one party or another just because they are in that party. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Its not like a high school rivalry where you support your school no matter what. Its supposed to be about right and wrong and what is best for this country. I am a registered republican but definitely do not agree with the republicans on all issues. I honestly wish the democrats would have run John Edwards because I would have seriously considered voting for him. This election is just going to tear a bigger gap between the parties and rip our country to pieces. We cannot get anything accomplished with things running the way they do!

The tenacity with which Hillary is hanging on and fighting in this primary makes me think of the parallel thought process of another well known politico who continues to fight a losing battle at the expense of others and of this nation.

I urge my fellow democrats in Michigan and Florida to send a clear a strong message to the DNC that we will not be bullied. Vote non-republican in the GE or just stay home. It will make little difference in the end result. Howard Dean is a Nazi in a off-the-rack suit and should be removed as chairman.

I like them both, and will no matter the outcome, vote for a Democrat this fall. The republic regime needs to be put to rest. With that said, Hillary is more a candidate then Obama. Why is is that when a woman is firm and holds her ground she is 'witch' or something else...you know what I mean!

Be happy for the both of them! This is a pivotal point in history, a female and an african american. As democrats, quit bickering and spewing about who should bow out, gracefully or otherwise, and let the election process run its course. This is the great part of our country...we can keep going until it is the end. No one should say we're done. 'WE' (the collective I) say when 'we' are done! -- Keep rocking it out Hillary! I support you and hope that you DO get the nomination, but if not, Obama I will gladly vote for you in November!

Pat Messer wrote:

"they are racist.. which is something no one is talkng about, but it is why he loses the less educated white vote."

Who is really playing on ignorant stereotypes here? It is attitudes like this, an attitude Obama expressed in his San Francisco comments, that really split the Democratic party. Obama and Clinton are just emblems of this divide.

Obama "has the smarts and the skill to convince these voters that their economic and security best interests do not lie with the GOP" ? He does not even have the skill and smarts to unify his party when he should have, much less beat McCain. He has had opportunity after opportunity to finish off Clinton, but he has yet to do it. Smart? Skillful? I think not.

Obama has basically rebuilt the McGovern coalition. It did not work in '72 and it will most likely not work now.

I will never vote for Obama or a Republican. I will write in Hillary if she is not the nominee. Just look at some of the comments about her. You people should be ashamed. It is not about power, you morons, it is about what is best for the people of this country. Obama doesn't have a chance against the right wing in this country. I guarantee that if he is the nominee you will see all kinds of stuff revealed about Obama. 20 years of listening to Marxist teachings of Wright will be the first.

why is it allways that obama cant win without the blue collar white votes? it is never mention that clinton cant win without the young votes,the black votes,and the well educated votes. he seems to be doing a great job so far.why cant she close the deal,with all the experience and other attributes that she gives herself.just wondering.

Sweat Heart of The World : Hillary Clinton,

by:

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria
Lahore, Pakistan

I am sorry but I am not, under any circumstances, going to vote to put another novice, even one with big, glorious ideas, in the White House. I have always voted for democrats at the state and federal level, so it galls me that I now have to take a good hard look at McCain because the democrats screwed up royally.

I have to believe that much of McCain's stumping of late is just a ploy to win over right winged conservatives, because it flies in the face of most of his record, especially from 1999-2004. Maybe he will truely be the cross over candidate we want. He has worked with democrats in the past, I think he would continue to do so. It is definitely worth thinking about.

Quote: "Not when they start hearing McCain's preacher Hagee, the minister who really IS a racist hatemonger, calling the Catholic Church "The Great Wh*re." I don't think that's going to go over so well"

What is thing about pastors? Ridiculous. I have been attending the same church for years and pay no attention to my pastor's views. You are not responsible for what your other half or kids say, why are you responsible for your pastors view??

@Herotodus and Joe: You rock.

Hillary should end the race, since the math says she can't win the nomination. Her ego won't let her, though. She has the attitude that if she does not win, then no democrat should. I used to respect her, but no more. I'd rather elect a republican than have someone like her in charge of our nuclear weapons. Like Bush, she knows how to wield power, but doesn't know how to wield it responsibly.

no way should she ouit she is the only hope we have in this country obama will lead us down the wrong road come on people waken up this guy is not what we want for the next four years, Janet in WV

It should be Hillary to decide if and when and what her next step should be. Stop suugesting, you been doing that since she started running. It is the shameful way to treat an able and willing and hard working candidate.

She's all "Broked-Up" and nothing left in the tank! LOL!

Hillary Clinton,

Sweat Heart of The World.

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria
Lahore, Pakistan

What makes you think she wants him to win the Presidency. If he runs and loses, she can run again in four years. If he wins, in four years he'll have done well and be the incumbent or poorly and everyone will be sick of Democrats. She will want to weaken him as much as possible and the best way to do that is to draw out the primary as long as possible and keep attacking him.

When Senator Clinton drops out I begin to send money to the McCain campaign. I only hope she does not endorse the empty suit. I believe the 50% of Hillary voters in Indiana who said they will not vote for Senator Obama. He has had months to show us some leadership and all we have to show for it is a divided party. The last person to run on change and bipartisanship was George W. I hope the country has finally learned that lofty rhetoric does nothing to solve problems.

Herodotus @ May 7, 2008 10:40 AM

Excellent post. Spot on. That's why Obama will mop the floor with him.

A compromise on Michigan and Florida would actually help push Obama over the top in the delegate count. Gov. Kathleen Sebelius would be a strong VP for Obama: environmentalist, moderate, solid marriage, integrity, no heavy baggage. Those who have so wanted a woman president will be pleased, and this, without all the drama, corruption, and constant stories. Those doubting Obama's ability to win the general election have been living under a rock, or flunked math in grade school.

She (Hillary) had a wonderful fight.Her campaign used all the tactics to blunt Obama's advantages but it didn't work. Now if she thinks that she has much more bouts to go that will only add to fracture the Democratic party and prospect of winning general election in November. Accepting defeat is a great virtue that will be remembered by the electorate for all the time to come. She should stand tall even in defeat.

I don't think Hillary should back out. I want Mccain to win so I voted for Obama because he has no chance of beating Mccain, but when it comes down to the end I WILL VOTE MCCAIN!!!!So if you all think everyone is voting for Obama because he is the favorite you are mistaken.I am a Republican, but I still think Hillary is the best person for the job.

As a die-hard HC supporter, I am ready to concede the nomination to BO. I think HC should gracefully exit before the next primary in WV and throw her support behind BO - for the good of the party - if we are to win in November.

After Bush II, I realized the republican party was totally corrupt. Now, as a Democrat, I cannot accept an inept candidate such as Obama. He has NO idea what to do as a president. Even Bush is smarter. Hillary really needs to break rank with this messed-up Dem party and become an independent candidate.

all you HRC supporters should put your $ where you mouth is. Got to her site and donate $5. That way she'll have 100 million and 5 dollars... Shes done. She can take her kitchen sink and sniper fire and just go home. BTW, shes a wrap in New York.

OBAMA BIN LADEN

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria,
Lahore, Pakistan

Are we deaf? She wants a convention battle!!! All these public figures who keep saying what will happen June 3, well I don't know which H. Clinton you've been listening to, if any. Her campaign and her supporters have been beating the Michigan Florida drum pretty consistently since they figured out this is the only way to win. For her to seek to subvert the process is not new. It's been her trajectory ever since her deer-in-the headlights moment. If she were consciously aware, conscience-ly aware, of how this discredits her, would she do it? Yes, because it appears to be working for her. And because not quite half of the people in the democratic party prefer her. I do not prefer her means and methods and think she is much better suited to represent the people of NY in the Senate.

"NOBODY, ABSOLUTELY NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO TELL HER WHEN TO QUIT."

Actually, everybody has a right to tell her when to quit. Nobody has a right to MAKE her quit, that's up to her. Whether or not she listens is on her.

OBAMA BIN LADEN

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria,
Lahore, Pakistan

Headline I expected to see by now:

"Hilary; Why can't she just quit while she's ahead?"

People keep saying, "I'll be dead before I vote for Obama" or "I will never vote for him" or other things like that. My question is why do some of you people feel that way? He has been an honest candidate with real ways to change the country for the better. I dont understand this feeling of hatred towards Obama. We need to be unified as a people and stop attacking others. Obama has a lot of integrity, something Clinton is severely lacking. He denounced his former reverend, who by the way, was not always spouting the hate that he does now. Wright is someone in the spotlight, using it to promote his own garbage. Just because Obama is associated with him doesnt mean that Obama believes what he says. I have a friend from highschool that is in jail, does that mean because I hung out with him that I am a criminal too? Some of you people need to get over your prejudice and look at the facts and the real issues. Stop blindly supporting a LIAR (Hillary) and start looking at the facts.

Another dynamic is the word 'fight'; she's been using this forever and I think a lot of voters want to get away from the constant bickering and fighting.

We saw a shift of party voters voting for BO, likely because of this.

It's been over for months now, all she is doing is damaging the party and herself.

I hope all the hags that support Hillary and all the asinine old people realize that race doesnt work in today election, the next generation is speaking out they are tired of Washington business as usual, I myself as a senior support this young generation I think they can do much better after what we have been suffering for the last eight years

If Joe Lieberman has taught us anything, it's that there is still life for Hillary Clinton after losing the Democratic nomination, if she chooses to run as an independent. If that option is still on the table, then I expect she will milk the process as far as she can to keep her name in the headlines until August, then use the "unfairness" of the process to justify a run as an Independent.

With Obama, McCain, AND Clinton all in the race, we might end up seeing not only a brokered convention, but a brokered election as well, and the good old Electoral College will finally get to do something more important than rubber stamp our next president.

Maybe then we'll _finally_ have enough momentum to rid us of the arcane electoral system once and for all!

Only with Hillary the ENDGAME in November is a clear win. Black voters will never vote republican. Obama is just to radical in his views, a second McGovern (without war experience).

The Asian and Hispanic population are helping democrats won every time in CA and big state like TX. This round they all support Hillary. If Obama is up you can bet CA is going for McCain. The economy has been great for 8 years straight on the Clinton clock, they do have the experties on boosting this sluggish economy. Obama has no credential of how he is going to turn it around. Promise of taking care of everyone and don't show how is just a lie. Don't tell me that Obama is a uniter. You can't just do the thing that couldn't be done for century now.

I will not vote for Obama. He will cost the democratic party the Whitehouse.

Hillary supporters really truly love her she has created so much passion for women voters who are loyal to the ones they love. So if you are foolish enough to think otherwise you will see a grandslam for McCain in Nov.

I will vote for Mcacin in Nov. if Hillary is not the nominee. Spread racial fear of riots it won't do any good for Obama. It just divides us more because people are tired of blacks always blamming their faults, problems and inadequcies on their skin color- Take a stand and be responsible for your actions don't always assume the out come is based on skin color. The working class support that Hillary has will not be afraid to vote for McCain and he knows that. That is why he has been touring where he has been. I will campaign for him if Hillary is not the nominee.

Edward M. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Richard M. Nixon are some very prominent Americans who have run and lost bids for the Presidency. Hillary Clinton, who many felt was destined to become the first woman President, now joins that roster. It is somewhat unbelievable and it is heartbreaking but ask Al Gore, ask Gerry Ford's kids. Love stinks? So do does politics in terms of the "hurt feelings" and the "agony of defeat". Losing a jury trial can always be blamed on the facts, your client or the collective quirk of six people. Losing an election is stingingly personal.Her loaning herself 5 mil to continue is pawing one's jewelery for crack. If she continues, she risks, I fear, running her stature down to the brake pads. Help Obama beat McCain and work in the Senate to get this country back on the right track.

Th people who make the argument that Obama is not electable in the face of a very weak and vulnerable Republican candidate must have a stake in continuing the divisiveness, the war, and economic policies that are close to ruining this nation. It appears that their own fears of brown skin has suppressed all reason. Take a cue from the white working class voters in the recent primaries. Half got over it, even in the face of the media blitz on gaffs and association. A united Democratic party is going to bring around plenty more. Voters are no longer as stupid as as the pundits, the media, and the fat cats like to hope they are. Why? They are paying more attention: 1) because they have been conned for the last 8 years AND 2) finally, someone is being honest with them.

Hillary

Do Not Give Up.
Put Up Another Brave Fight And Turn the Table on OBAMA BIN LADEN.

The Kentucky Derby offers a good model ... think the Superdelegates need to "euthanize" the damaged second place runner and take her (and us) out of our collective misery

I agree with the posters who want Hillary to fight on as long as possible. She has described herself as a fighter, and fighters do not give up. So she shouldn't.

It's important that when Barack Obama wins the nomination he is seen to have defeated Hillary. It must be clear that Hillary did not win, she lost.

A position I do not understand is that Obama is somehow 'not electable'. You can tell that the people who propose this view don't really believe it because they speak of an 'October Surprise'. The claim that Obama is 'not electable' because of the possibility of an 'October surprise' implies indirectly that, given what is known, Obama will win.

Hanging your hat on an 'October Surprise' is giving the game away. You lost, buster. Get over it.

Pat Messer wrote:

"they are racist.. which is something no one is talkng about, but it is why he loses the less educated white vote."

Who is really playing on ignorant stereotypes here? It is attitudes like this, an attitude Obama expressed in his San Francisco comments, that really split the Democratic party. Obama and Clinton are just emblems of this divide.

Obama "has the smarts and the skill to convince these voters that their economic and security best interests do not lie with the GOP" ? He does not even have the skill and smarts to unify his party when he should have, much less beat McCain. He has had opportunity after opportunity to finish off Clinton, but he has yet to do it. Smart? Skillful? I think not.

Obama has basically rebuilt the McGovern coalition. It did not work in '72 and it will most likely not work now.

I haven't supported a Republican candidate for the White House since 1980. I voted for Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Kerry. Not Obama, he's waaay too far out to the left even for me. His #1 skill appears to be stuffing his foot in his mouth whenever he mistakenly strays off his carefully crafted, rehearsed, memorized message.

Where can I get a McCain bumper sticker for my car?

Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.
When word about what appears to be a massive new spending program started getting out, the reaction was immediate.

"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter on a Yahoo news forum. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."

YEAH GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THIS IDIOT. Either way you're going to be screwed. Personally I'd prefer a female to an elitist racist.

Preserving the Dems chances of success in November by bowing out is not quitting. It's noble and and is emblematic of true party comity.

Obama IS electable, because Hillary is out, and McCain is a moron.

McCain graduated 894 out of a class of 897 students at the Naval Academy. He blew up his plane on the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War, killing 134 US servicemen (if his father wasn't an Admiral, he'd still be in the brig). He crashed 5 planes during the War; the final time, while bombing civilians, by not properly evading a shoulder launched rocket fired by a rice farmer. Captured for 5 years, he was given 'champagne treatment' because of Daddy. His 'torture' injuries were mainly caused by his crash. Yay. Total. Hero.

If Americans want a senile, unintelligent, screwup, temper-tantrum, dump-the-damaged-first wife to marry the cute beer-heiress President, go for it. Good luck with that Future thing.

If I were you though, I'd vote for the intelligent, thoughtful, vigorous, insightful half-white guy (half-white: for those of you who can't wrap your pea brains around a 'full' black guy being President).

Good luck, and good night.

OBAMA BIN LADEN

No.NO.NO.NO.NO.No

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria
Lahore, Pakistan

Well I won't be voting for him in Nov.
When you take away race and sex, you have one candidate who has a proven record and one who has... pretty much nothing to go on. I don't know anything about him aside from the fact that he is an extreme leftwing who somehow thinks he will bring both sides together - that'll never happen with all of the hope and change in the world.
We need someone who has shown they can work with the other side. We need skill, not hope. If not Hillary (which seems pretty clear regardless of the popular vote) then McCain.

Mr. Feaver,

While I enjoy your blog, and the Washington Post in general, I was surprised by the number of missing words (typos) in this article. Should it not be the role of the professional media to set journalistic standards for the "blogosphere?" If you don't, I do not know who else would. I think bloggers would benefit greatly by the media maintaining high journalistic (and grammatical) standards instead of sinking to the level of the write-before-you-think amateur media. Again, I do enjoy this feature of the Post's site, and it serves as a great medium for the public to interact with the media.

Dick Cheney's got experience in the White House. I guess that means he's better suited for this country's presidency than either of these candidates.

...experience means nothing when when the "experienced" has led this country to the sh!tter.

Any racists and\or sexist fools whom believe that neither Hillary or Obama can defeat McCain, I only wish I Was there to see your jaw drop when Obama comes out on top.

Hillary's "summer vacation from the gas tax" is a very unfortunate development. Up until she came up with this doozy, I believed that she had the kind of fighting spirit Barack hasn't been able to show us in this race. Now, this desperate ploy?? This is greedy and shortsighted.. I for one am changing my support to B.H.Obama

Obama is completely "electable" as long as Hillary supports him after she concedes. Although the media is largely ignoring the plethora of gaffs McCain has been handing them on a silver platter, many are on video and ready to be used when we turn to a general election.

I don't necessarily see Hillary as damaging Obama. At least all the petty issues are out in the open and he has confronted them, leaving the Repulshlicans very little to work with or surprises to dig up. C'mon, a lapel pin is hardly damaging material. Wright will be a tired issue come November.

Also, if everyone starts talking about how the media has been soft on McCain, as they did with Obama, then perhaps they will turn their guns on McCain to prove they aren't being biased, as they did with Obama. Then we'll see who's electable under the magnifying glass.

Hillary should fight on! A good leader shows his/her quality in the testing time.
Have people heard Obama's words? I could rarely understand his views on any important issues.
Hillary has clear views and solutions on all the important issues. Are those the ultimate solutions? I am not sure, but at least they made more senses.

Well dont forget the economists, hilary doesnt believe in them, rofl. Them economists and their endless knowledge have fooled the American people for too long. She can teach economists a thing or two about the economy.

Obama is certainly a superior candidate. While not as bright as Hillary neither is 99% of the population. I admire them both immensely and wish the party well.
That being said it is clear that the American people still have not caught on to how deep the economic problems are in this country, how dangerous things are going to get over the next 4 years. The question that should have never come up did - "which one do I like the best". The focus should have been on which one of the candidates is best qualified to get us out of the mess Bush created. If people think that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are equal in terms of economics they just haven't given it much thought. Hillary was 24/7 access to the top public sector manager in the world - her husband. Bill has made millions on speaking how he turned the huge inefficient bureacracy called the federal government on its head.
However, if Mr. Obama has the humility and the ego strength to let Bill run the economy, Biden and H. Clinton run the foreign policy, and then he can focus on getting some balance on the supreme court then he might have a great presidency.

Time for Hillary for quit?

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria,
Lahore, Pakistan

It is incredible that now that a man who happens to have the skin coloration of a greater show of melanin who is equally of Caucasian decent has now captured the black racist vote. Yet, ever since the inception of the United States there have been suffrage amongst many by the white racist elite, including the election of white Presidents through and through.

Let's not be so naive as to say that this is black racism, when Iowa started the ball rolling and that is not a predominantly black state. Was that white racism?

You are not accountable for the words of your own children, why should anyone be held accountable for the words and opinion of their pastor. You go to work and not everything your boss says is a reflection of your ideals. People, pastors are just people they are not God. Worship is private and between you and your chosen authority.

The American Dream is this in action and every citizen is due his/her chance to make it their own. Obama did not divide the race, the media divided the race. Do not be a puppet to the mass media's lopsided unethical manner of reporting information and calling it journalism. Today's media is tabloid journalism, plain and simple. There is a bridge either candidate will have to cross and it is beyond the General election. It is balancing the nation's debt. An indicator as to who will better manage the economy can be seen in who is better managing their campaign finances. It is building relationships that brings the US back to the forefront, which it is not in any respect. Look at the candidate who has created a place for the dis-enfranchised voters to believe they can actually be part of the election process and make a difference. Do not let naive thinking convince you that the illegal activities of past presidents don't have debts to be paid. When you look at this election you must realize that each of these candidates are inexperienced. None of them have had the job before. Those who think they will be ready on day one are naive because 911 never happened on day one. Readiness is beyond the first day.

If this were really about the Democratic party and it's constituency, Hillary would drop out and unite her people to support Obama against McCanan who will be led by the Bush family down the same path.

Enjoy balance in your commentary it's the whole picture that needs to be considered not narrow color issues that serve no purpose.

This is democracy at it's best when the perceived minorities (women and people of color) finally get their chance to show their leadership ability.

Yes, we do.

Hillary is done. Obama didn't run a a negative campaign against her, but you think when we get in to the General if she was the nominee that the 527 wouldn't stomp her with the scandals from Bills years and the Monica thing. Give me a break and the fact Republicans will do almost anything to keep the Clintons out of the white house. Obama is the better candidate. People who are Hillary supporters are just upset, they will vote for Obama. No true democrat with democrat beleives and values will vote for McCain and keep the war going.

Do the math or read the tea leaves -- the gap widened. It has been all over but the crying for sometime.

Go, Obama '08!

Why is it that you don't want the State with later primary to have a choice. I'm sure all who have already voted just want it over. Talk about ripping the party up what about the whole primary system. Early voter canidate are out of the race, and later voters have not choice. Please be patience let everyone have at least a choice on their ballot.

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN INDIANA. SHE WAS BEHIND IN THE POLLS AND HE AND HIS CAMP ANTICIPATED A WIN. SO IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL NIGHT FOR HER. NORTH CAROLINA? GIVE ME A BREAK HER COMING CLOSE OR WINNING THERE WAS A FANTASY CREATED BY THE MEDIA. THEY KNEW THEY WERE BEHIND AND THEY SAID IT YESTERDAY. WITH 91% PERCENT OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION, BEING IT ONE THIRD OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE...SHE DIDN'T HAVE A PRAYER.

NOBODY, ABSOLUTELY NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO TELL HER WHEN TO QUIT. THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT, BUT ESPECIALLY THE PATHETIC, BIASED MEDIA OF THE UNITED STATES. Really, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Yes Hillary should pack it up and go home. But wait, home is where? Being the carpet bagger she is, is home in Illinois, Arkansas, New York or no wait was it Pennsylvania? Home seems to be the state du jour where she needs votes.

The people want Obama.

It is time for Clinton to quit. I think her ego will not let her do that. She changes positions on things and can not be trusted. She is making Democrats look bad by not getting out of the race. She has lost and she needs to understand that.

out axillary in obaba.

Hillary has LOST no one knew who Obama was at the beginning of this race. He is ahead.We should be asking we she is behind. The only reason this thing is going on is "money" people get paid. If her entire staff would work for free from this day on and if they paid for it let them run!! No more of our money it has been wasted. We say what happen at the last horse she backed it did not make it off the track

Cathy | May 7, 2008 10:25 AM: "I believe Catholics will vote for McCain because of abortion issues."

Not when they start hearing McCain's preacher Hagee, the minister who really IS a racist hatemonger, calling the Catholic Church "The Great Wh*re." I don't think that's going to go over so well.

And BTW~

QUIT your whining about Michigan and Florida! They knew what the consequences were when they decided to go early, and now Hill cries and tantrums like a spoilt brat. Tough tutties, Hill. Take it like a woman. You're not displaying very...um...Presidential qualities. As a matter of fact, your attitude and rhetoric sounds more like the shrub every day. Get over yourselves. Thank gawd most people are smarter than that. Easy to win a state when your competition isn't even on the ballot. Geez.....!

If Hillary stays in to the end, and the Dems lose the election, she will never have a realistic shot at the White House again. Put the ego down, bow out, save face for the party and run again in four years -- when you don't have to spend your 'victory' speech to pander for $20 contributions to your web site. Pathetic.

Hey! The way I see it, lots of coloured Americans and young people want Obama. White people, dont like him that much. McCain is white, Obama is not. I feel that given that in the USA since there are more white people than brothers, Obama has a LOWER chance than McCain.

Further, he's young and relatively inexperienced. Just becuase you can inspire people with speeches - that doesnt mean you can run a country. I come from Asia, we've got plenty of those people here.

Clinton may not be a great choice. BUT she's got good experience, America is slowly slipping behind others in the world and its going to take more than speeches to steer you out of that mess.

THINK about it... I feel Obama should pull out.

Simply because, even if he wins the nomination, I doubt whether he'll win the election.

It is time for Hillary to give up the notion that she is entitled to the nomination. Democrates need to coalesce behing the Democratic nominee. After Bush, capitalism needs saving, and McCain is not the one to do it. I hope Obama may be up to it; we do not have a Roosevelt on the horizon.

Dear Hillary,

You still got American people's confidence at your back. You have won 6 out of last 7 contests and you can win all the next primaries left ahead.

All you got to do is just pull up your socks again, stand up with grace, like you always do, sum up your courage and when you are ready punch "OBAMA BIN LADEN" hard like you did in Penslvynia and now in Indiana.

You can still do it.

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria
Lahore, Pakistan

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It is amazing that people such as AnnMarie believe the conventional media myths about Obama -- or Hillary -- or McCain -- or Bush. Can't they see how tv manupulates your attention? Don't pay attention to tv images. They are distortions of reality. Caracatures. Instead, take a little time to be a good citizen, and actually study the substance of these people. Look the voting records -- it's easy to do on the internet nowadays.

vote for Barrack? you so stupid...

If the Clintons are worried about their legacy, they should gracefully step down and support Obama due to the simple fact, if she continues this divide, she and her family will be remembered as the family who shattered an almost sure win for the democrats in 2008.

Fl and MI violated Democratic Party rules and will not count. Blame Senator Levin and Debbie Dingell in Michigan for their years long efforts to move up the primary. It cost us (I'm a 3rd generation Michigander) our delegates. But rules are rules. Hillary lost, now she needs to get out of the way.

As minority, I believe Hillary can do a great job. Otherwise, I would vote for Mccainn instead of Obama. "Most" american are so lost and hard head to vote for him..geez!!

I can no more distance myself from the Reverend Wright than I can distance myself from the black community.

ET TU Barack

...but Barack is an honorable man.

Yes, Hillary, stay in the race! You can't be QUITTER now! Win or lose, you have to give it your all. And by staying in the race, even if you don't win, you'll at least completely destroy Obama's chance at the GE. That's all we Hillary supporters can ask for.

get out hillary let Obama take the fall. neither a black or woman can beat McCain even if he were on a stretcher.

I would argue that the Clintons are pursuing a strategy similar to the one they use against John Kerry, never endorsing him officially, saying less than positive things about him when he was mentioned at all. Again, I would argue that they wanted Kerry to lose, to make way for Hillary's run in 4 years.

This arrogant, ridiculous, destructive, "scorched earth" campaign she is running against Obama, seems aimed at helping John McCain defeat Obama in November, paving the way for yet another Hillary run in 4 years. However, I believe it will backfire, by putting much of the controversy about Obama to bed, so that the Rev. Wright issue, the equally argumentum ad hominem attacks on "elitistism, and the "Bitter" comment, will be old news come this fall.
Hillary's is still the most pandering naked, "inside the beltway" formulated do anything, say anything Machiavellian power grab I've seen Ronald Regan campaigned against Jimmy Carter!

I'll be dead before I vote for Obama.

Seems to me that Barack Obama has managed to do something that NO Republican has yet to do.....BEAT A CLINTON! And might I add, by taking the high road. Republicans (like Hillary) are TOAST!

Reading so many comments from Hillary supporters who say that they will not vote for Obama is really sad. McCain is saying that he wants to continue the Bush policies: war, more conservative judges, no health care plan... and you guys would rather have that than unify behind your Party's candidate? My God, are you people insane?

Anyone that throws their support behind more years of McBush is an idiot.

Obama is the best candidate for this country.He is the only candidate standing up for what he believes and NOT playing politics as usual, like the other two candidates. He is also the only one that can unite this country.

Hillary needs to bow out and admit defeat.

I would like to see Obama then offer the VP to Clinton.

Her success last month buoyed Hillary to this point. But now ...

N.C. was another loss and Indiana was won by a hair. There is no momentum. There is nowhere to go from here except home.

It was a good fight. But it's over. Hillary, please go home now. Live up to your word and support Obama. It's the best alliance you can make not only for you, but more importantly, for the rest of us.

Though Hillary should have gracefully bowed out a couple of months ago, I have an uneasy feeling that she is going to stay in the race through the general election, somehow trying to become president with enough of her backers and crossover votes from Republicans. Hillary Nadar or Ralph Clinton?

Hillary should quit...everyone is tired of this race, the Superdelegates are going to Obama..and Obama needs to get on with his Presidential campaign..

And Obama MUST NOT ASK HILLARY TO RUN AS VP -
this will run counter to his major tenant that states "we need to get rid of "Old style Washington politics"...

Ummm....just a quick reminder: while you are all deeply wrapped up in which party-select, homogenized candidate you are going to vote for (who is, party banner flying high, going to go to D.C. and, as an agent of their respective party, NOT "change" the way things are done in Washington), China, Russia, India and Japan are turning out engineers, research scientists, computer programmers etc. at an aggregate rate and quality 50 TIMES that of the U.S.

You can get all worked up about this inane system, but you cannot bring yourselves to make the intelligent choices which will preserve your system in the face of a rapidly and radically changing international landscape. Your kids are going to be pretty unimpressed with their inheritance.

If the Clintons are worried about their legacy, they should gracefully step down and support Obama due to the simple fact, if she continues this divide, she and her family will be remembered as the family who shattered an almost sure win for the democrats in 2008.

There was no meaningful politicking in MI or FL by Obama. Funny how Hillary wanted the votes to count since SHE went there. Changing the rules as they go along is business as usual for both the Bush family AND the Clinton family. In her thirst for power she's made it so her party will more than likely lose the GE.

I'm a republican and depending on McCain's VP choice I will more than likely be voting for Obama. Something has to be different, something has to change. I supported McCain when he ran against Bush (and it sickened me the politics GW pulled out against him) but at 71 I really have to question the man's faculties.

why is noone talking about clear black voter racism ? 91% for ObamaRama from black voters ? Nearly 1 in 2 white males vote for Obama ? and yet somehow obama cool aid drinkers still hint that he cannot be elected because of anglo racism ???

When does the 'society of victumization', i.e press and dems, admit to the ridiculous double standard ?

I find it amusing how Republicans attacking Obama just pretend that the years of Bush' administration's criminal behavior, trampling of constitution and international laws, - it just doesn't exist. Republican's quiet approval of all of what has been going on will not be forgotten easily. McCain's support for Bush policies including support for torture will not just disappear.

Hillary has nothing to loose by continuing she's just using your money no loss to her and she's neglecting her job as senator of NY while she's at it and admits it fun.

Bring it on home to Denver, Hillary! Don't give up.

Clinton can't win at this stage. MSNBC First read added in the remaining delegates (remaining races based on estimates) AND added in the MI/FL delegates. Even with those, Obama still leads in delegates, states won and popular vote.

What she needs is a way to bow out gracefully yet still give her a high-profile position within the Obama administration. (Thinking positively here!) A cabinet position would be a good choice for starters. I'm NOT sure she'd want to play 2nd fiddle to Obama and be the VP candidate, but that, too, is a possibility.

Bill Clinton needs to maintain his positive image as a former president. Opinions for him lowered as a result of this campaign, but something should be done to raise him back up. I voted for him twice, yet I'm working on the Obama campaign. He's a former president, even spoke at my graduation at OSU last year, and should be respected. He's earned it. He's not perfect, but name a president who is! :-)

Finally, we need to unite the party. Passions have run high. Obama wouldn't get all the Clinton supporters, but he would get most of them. A few months of healing time is definitely needed. Most, I believe, will return to the notion of voting for a Democrat - especially after working so hard to move us away - far away - from the Bush Administration. Within the party, it's consensus that a McCain term would be more of the same.

Clinton has run a very good race so far. I don't agree with all her tactics, but would you want to just give up all that hard work, time, investment, etc? I sure wouldn't. All Democrats need to make sure that she has the opportunity to bow out gracefully and with class. She deserves nothing less.

Hats off to Hillary Clinton for having run a great campaign. Hats off to Barack Obama - our next President of the United States of America!

I will love for all you to really read and think about the blogs here. I am tired of hearing that Obama is un-electable, that he is a liar and a fraud. Please someone please define this "electable" qualification. Honestly what has HRC done during her tenure in office. I am not saying that Obama is perfect but who is. He is a man that has crossed all demographics to unify people. How much can he screw up the country more than it is messed up now.

And "Rory" I don't know what country you are living in right now but I am not very proud of my country where the homeless rate is continually growing. Where more children are going to bed hungry and where parents pray that nothing happens to them because they have no Health Insurance. Where more people have to work 2 jobs just so there ends can wave at each (they never meet). And believe me there is a difference in Loving the country you are from but not liking the actions of the people in it.

Think about it!!!

Clinton has lost. Sorry! Love her or hate her, she wasn't a strong enough candidate to beat Obama. With all her experience, and a former president campaigning for her, with all the found memories of the Clinton presidency (and unfond memories) she couldn't beat a one term senator. He clearly ran the better campaign.

Will Obama beat McSame? I think he will. There are racists won't vote for him, but we can more than make up for that in new and independent voters, as well as republican cross overs.

Hope crushes fear 2008.

Time for Hillary to Quit?

Yes, Yes & Yes

Its time the superdelegates come out of the closet starting with Sen Edwards from SC who's been hiding behind a rock waiting for a clear winner to come forward.
He has 26 delegates that he can use in a power play to his advantage. The problem with that is he is theoretically holding the democratic part hostage.
If he were to come out today and throw his support for Obama, that alone would bury Hillary and end this thing and we can all get moving on to the Fall Election. Its about winning the presendency.
PS: Fools. Hardcore democrats won't be voting republican no matter who the candidate is.

Count the MI & FL votes to the toal at the end of primary, then the person with the most vote moves on. Do not stop the game in the middle of the 4th quarter. Hillary has to stay on for the sake of lot of youngsters (especially little girls) looking up to her!

With a good percentage of hillary`s support coming from elephants who will never vote for a donkey in the general election its long past time for the former first lady to admit defeat.

Obama comes unglued and whines every time the Clinton campaign questions his lack of experience or the vaguness of his "vision" for America. Do the Obama cultists believe theat McCain and the Republikans are going to be more polite than Hillary?

Welcome to the Big Time Barack.

If women quit every time men in power told them to, we'd all still be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. No one gives you power - you take it.

Obama has made it this far partly because the media's sexism is just outrageous... indeed, can they get this man enough pillows? And can you imagine them asking a man to quit if he kept on winning large states? The men in power in this party just want to keep the female below the glass ceiling. They may get their wish in the end, but, there's no reason for Clinton to make it easy for them.

I will never vote for a Republican but if this woman is not on the Democratic ticket in one capacity or another, I'm going Green for good. The Democrat power brokers have demonstrated their fundamental disrespect for hard working women and I've truly had enough.

Hillary - you go, girl.

I believe Catholics will vote for McCain because of abortion issues. Obama stated that he wouldn't like his daughters "to be punished with a baby" if they make "mistake".
Catholics "don't stick to their guns and religion" because they are "bitter". Some statements may sound good in San Francisco,
but not in the ears of middle-of-the-road Americans

"We have seen that it's possible to overcome the politics of division and distraction, that it's possible to overcome the same old negative attacks that are always about scoring points and never about solving our problems," Obama said at a victory rally in Raleigh, North Carolina.

It is refreshing to hear a Democrat actually break out of their tired old mold to say something profound.

We dont care, we stopped buying gas in July 2007 and went electric at 1/4 penny per mile, my F350 diesel (almost 5 bucks a gallon and 10 mpg) and supercharged Buikc Park Avenue (almost 4 bucks a gallon and 18 mpg) have been very lonely ... sniff sniff

novascooters.com rocks I ride mine everyday and blow past all the traffic snarls because we are allowed under state law to pass cars on the right or left, my commute is MUCH more fun and quicker now, and I save TONS of money, and dont fund the coffers of the arabs or that guy in Venezuela )

Hillary You just stay in the race.

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria
Lahore, Pakistan

If Hillary still thinks she can win, she's delusional. Who wants a delusional Clinton to replace the delusional Bush?

The Wicked Witch is dead !

"We Republicans will co-opt "working class" Democrats to generate the decisive edge in President McCain's relatively easy electoral victory...

Sorry, folks. The beat goes on."

Posted by: JD | May 7, 2008 10:10 AM
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My eyes are still stinging by the tears from laughing! Easy electoral victory for John McBush? That's about as likely as the "other" Bush ever having a 50% approval rating. You republican'ts sure have a great sense of humor! Methinks thou art delusional extraordinaire...if there are any working class dems that are THAT stupid, you 'pubs can have them! (rolling eyes) Lord have mercy!

Sheesh: That was an obvious joke. Duh.

Robert G: You're a sock puppet. It's that obvious.

In regards to egrib: yes, Michigan and Florida are huge states; however, it was agreed that as a penalty to moving up their primaries, they would not be counted and therefore, Obama willingly REMOVED HIS NAME FROM THE VOTING BALLOT in Michigan. Of course Clinton would have gotten more votes there--because her name was ACTUALLY on the ballot. The states do not count and even if they did, Clinton still could not win because the nomination is more based on delegate votes, not popular votes. Furthermore, am I the only one who remembers Clinton intially agreeing to not count those states, until she realized she needed them, and then she backtracked?

I continue to disagree with the idea that Obama is not electable. AnnaMarie, write one thing that he has said that is bad. Give an example. At least he didnt fabricate an entire story about sniper fire or a pregnant woman without insurance. I am an educated person and I believe that we need someone to unify this country. Fighting inside the government between Dems and Republicans has to stop. Fighting between the races has to stop. How can you say that a LIAR like Hillary has more integrity than Obama. Explain it. I want to see some examples. The truth is you wont be able to come up with any thing. Obama is honest about his mistakes at least. AnnaMarie, you are just a Hillary supporter who is completely blind to the real issues like so many of the Clinton supporters are. There is a reason she is supported by uneducated people, they dont know the issues and dont pay attention to the LIES she has been proven to tell. It is a fact she is a liar. Look up the definition of misspoke, its not what Clinton did. I do not want a president that is a liar.

Hillary will have to bow out, and I say it'll happen by Friday. While I think Obama is a nice guy, he is not going to get elected.
The Democrats are such morons, I swear they would mess up a wet dream. Instead of pleading for Gore to run this year, they gave it to Clinton. Gore would have gotten elected because people probably would have thought he got screwed in 2000.
Now the Democrats will lose the election! It's one thing to get the nomination, but it's all together different to win the election.
It's going to be very hard for him to win!

Hillary has won 4 of the last 5 contests and it will be 6 out of the last 7 after WV and KY. Simply handing the nomination to Obama is like pushing a college football team that lost 3 of its last 4 into the national title game anyway. Keep going Hillary.

Perhaps both of the democratic candidates could focus on what they would bring to the table that is better than McCain?

The longer that Clinton has remained in play, pummeling Obama, the more the "he can't win" argument has evaporated.
If Obama can rise above the concerted attempts at "swift-boating" undertaken by the screaming moonbats of right-wing radio and Faux News as well as come out ahead of an increasingly megalomaniacal opponent in the form of Clinton, he can certainly beat an unbalanced, mercurial 72-year-old in the general election.
Clinton is only succeeding in one area: confirming cartoonist Berke Breathed's brilliant image of her as a take-no-prisoners, napalm-spewing nutcase (see "Opus").

I believe Catholics will vote for McCain because of abortion issues. Obama stated that he wouldn't like his daughters "to be punished with a baby" if they make "mistake".
Catholics don't consider babies as on-job accidents. They "don't stick to their guns and religion" because they are "bitter". Some statements may sound good in San Francisco,
but they may sound distastful for more middle-of-the-road Americans

The running dogs of the Rash Limbo chaos movement seem to be strong here. Without them Hillary would not have squeaked through in Indiana, but they are wasting their time.

I think her bellicose position on "obliterating" Iran shows how desperate her position has become.

I wanted to vote for Clinton, but was too busy dodging the snipers.

Obama sure is in the lead, but it is long before there is a colored President in States!

OH FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

why is Hillary's second grade record anywhere at ALL relevant to ANYTHING?

this is why people hate you goddamn muckrakers

There. Obama has clinched the nomination for all practical purposes. The rest is letting Clinton supporters down easy and Hillary saving face. Don't forget, in NC 80% of the total votes cast were for the Democrats! The pundits have been consistently wrong about absolutely everything in the race from the beginning. Just look back and see for yourself. November will be a tidal wave, and the Dems will sweep into the White House, Senate and Congress. I'm predicting Mandate.

I'm a life long Democrat but I will never vote for Obama. I would vote for almost any other Democrat than Obama. As much as I dislike Obama and his wife, it's his supporters who I can't stand the most and I will do anything to see that they lose in Nov.

The thing is that Hillary and her husband do not like to lose. But sometimes you can never win all.The basic simple theory is that you either win or lose. and realising that, should step aside gracefully. She fought very hard, but ther will be more damage done if she continues...I don't know if she is aware how much destruction she had caused by her NEGATIVITY...If she continues she will demoralise the whole party.

I think Hillery sould stay in the race. I want to see the look on her face when she is defeated once and for all in full view of everyone at the Democratic National Convention.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm at a point where I'd vote for Nader or simply write Hillary in on my ballot. I feel like we (Democrats) are throwing the election away if we nominate Obama. It just won't work unless they work together.

Hillary you have done a great job. You have fought well. I wanto you to fight till end.

By :

Shahid Hussein Qaboolpuria,
Lahore, Pakistan

I am not convinced that Senator Obama will win in November. All the dems need is an "October surprise" like wright, more ayers stuff, and who knows what else. I think there are alot of dems who will not vote for him. The MSM consensus it that dems who vote for Senator Clinton will go with him because he is democratic. I do not think that is the case. I think the reason so many are saying that they will not vote for him has everything to do with him, whether they will admit it or not. I do not consider myself prejudice, I just do not like him at all. I will vote for Senator McCain if he is the nominee because I think he is more in line with my beliefs that Senator Obama will ever be.

Regardless of the current divisions withing the Democratic party, Republicans have no chance in this election. The American people are waking up and seeing and living the consequences of 8 years of corporate plundering of America.

At the end, the issue Clinton/Obama won't affect the party to solidly stand behind either candidate. The quarreling will be forgotten.

But whoever Democrat faces McSame, can easily point out to the state of the economy, the country's international fallout as a result of Cheney/Bush policies, gas prices, etc.

Again, "it's the economy, stupid."

McSame has no chance in this elections.

Unless we bet on the stupidity of the American people.

I, myself, wouldn't.

I think the notion that 50% of democrats won't vote for the other nominee is preposterous. People are charged right now in the effort to win... But, I think Obama has the unique ability to unite the party and move forward, bringing the vast majority of Dems and a lot of Reps with him.

I really haven't got much to add other than I am more curious and interested in what happens next. Who will be Obama's running mate: Edwards, I hope. Also, I keep wondering if it is really possible for a black man or woman to be elected President. I'm 65, and I can remember, not-too-long ago when it would have been unthinkable among mainstream Americans for a person of color to even consider attaining such high office. Oh well, it just goes to show you what a lifetime will do. Initially, I had no preference among the candidates: Ron Paul looked good (still does), but it was Bill Clinton who made me an Obama fan. I've just been kept wondering, "If Hil(l)arious was to be elected President, who would answer the phone at 3 A.M., when the pizza delivery girl called?"

As for me I do not want someone running this country that:
a. Never knew her husband was cheating (stupid???)
OR:
b. Knew her husband cheats/lies but ignored it (no integrity).
Remember ladies and gentlemen...where Hill goes Bill goes.

Get out Clinton. All your doing now is screwing up the Democratic party's chances. Not that you were ever an asset to the Democratic party.

It isn't about what's good for the party or what's good for the country. It's about what's good for them!! It's an entitlement. There will be no end but for the nuclear option in Denver. It's going to be a bloody race war!
Obama is a non starter in the Fall. He is unelectable with Rev Wright around his neck and absolutely no experience other than as a good speaker. It's over for the Demos. They just don't know it yet.

*is posting from school*

Hilary clearly wants the Democrats to prevail over the Republicans in this race. Although, her stubborn attitude to continue, even though its clear she can not win, is only costing the Democrats their chance.

I've always backed Obama, and not because I'm black, because I believe in his views. Some of his views are similar to those of Hilary, so I believe it would be in the Democrats best interest to work together=Hilary should quit and support Obama.

I voted for Obama because I believe that he believes what he is saying. Clinton is driving me crazy, I think her lies should not be discounted, but applied to virtually every statement out of her mouth. I have not been under sniper fire, but I am fairly sure I would remember it if I was!

If Hillary is so concerned about the working class people and their current financial situation due to the economy -- why doesn't she call it quits instead of trying to drain them to contribute a few dollars into her dead-end campaign! If I hear hillaryclinton.com one more time I'm going to get sick!

Hendricks County in Indiana very nearly voted for Obama. There are no Democrats in Hendricks County. These are Republicans crossing over to vote for him. It appears the conventional white person wisdom of "I'm not racist, but I know people who are" may be turning on its head. The neighbors aren't the racists -- you are.

hillary's campaign is over except in her own mind .With a 90's mentality it's win at all costs, even if she destroys the party. It was all for herself anyway!!

The GOP WILL rip Obama to shreds.

And for you Obama-ites who think that there is hope because 1/4 of the Republicans voted for others in the Republican primary than McCain, I voted for GHW Bush in the Ohio primary in 1980 and Dole in the Ohio primary in 1988 when Reagan and Bush (respectively) already had the nomination sewn up. I voted my first choice in the primary, but I knew very well that I would be voting for the nominee in the general election. Republicans will defintely vote for McCain in the general election, as will a lot of independents and Hillary Clinton Democrats. Hillary's supporters know that McCain will probably choose to just serve one term, and that will open it back up for her in 4 years.

I agree with the plead from denniswine, "Hillary: for the sake of our party and our country please show some class and endorse Senator Obama. If you are so worried about him winning in the fall then work your butt off to get him elected..." And this goes for all the other Hillary supports.

Clinton is a LOSER. She has ALWAYS been a LOSER. She will ALWAYS be a LOSER.

Sad part is that she doesn't even have the intelligence to recognize that fact.

For those of us who have suffered through years and years of "there's no liberal media bias, it's all the VRWC," it's an immense satisfaction to see the Hillary Democrats experience it for themselves in the media's bootlicking of Obama (although the region being licked is actually a fundamental region farther north).

With the Florida and Michigan vote would Sen.Hillary Clinton not be leading the Democratic Nomination race? I find it difficult to understand how, after the debacle of the 2000 Presidential Election, any sane minded Democrate could be writing off Sen. Clinton, when the prize is the White House, which can not be won by Obama.

First up: I'm an Obama supporter, and would vote for either Obama or Clinton over McCain.

Call me cynical, but I consider early attempts at "unity" to be --almost by definition -- no more than a hokey marketing tool. I think the continued "battle" over the nomination is actually healthy for the party and for the country. Pre-convention coronations of candidates, even when there was an obvious front-runner, were not common before the marketing of primaries became so prolonged and obnoxious.

Two parties are not enough for all the voices out there. Since we're currently stuck with two corporate parties, the least we can do is let the multitude of voices within each one be heard for as long as possible.

I feel Clinton should stay in- she is a great candidate for Presidency- We haven't heard all there is to know about Obama- I think we all need to sit back and think through things. Is he true to himself and others? No. Hillary Clinton is a hard-working woman that should be give the fair chance at winning this race. She is the best candidate and to be honest the thought of Obama being president scares me- it should others...if not maybe you should watch the news and read more about him.

NOT ELECTABLE, NOT ELECTABLE, NOT ELECTABLE.

reason: the emperor has no clothes. obama:
1. no experience
2. never passed any meaningful legislation
3. dirty chicago politics
4. deal with teamsters to end oversight (robert kennedy paid with his life for reigning in the mafia - ted kennedy shame on you.)
5. exposed daughters to rev. wright for their entire life.
6. far left wing of the party doesn't win a general election.
7. smashed in debates
8. winning 92% of african american vote in primary doesn't translate to general election.
9. rezko dealings. this is more of south side chicago politics - forcing rivals off the ballot (who personally selected you) and getting into bed with the mafia and the teamsters.
10. reinventing the standard american as being raised single-parented, by grandmother/grandfather, and connecting that with the majority of americans
11. and last but not least: DOING DRUGS - COCAINE, COCAINE, COCAINE, at the most liberal private college in southern california - Occidental college.

UNELECTABLE! THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. THE LIBERAL BLOGS WONT LET THIS GO THROUGH. FREE SPEECH. FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE.

The gas tax is nothing more than 'chump change'. Lowered gasoline prices, however they are derived will just increase demand and price.

The best thing for Planet Earth?
1. a recession that lasts for 300 years (you really didn't need another Ipod).
2. Women who realize that having 'litters' has never been good for the planet. Find something more meaningful to do, please.
3. Oil at $56,789 a gallon.
4. Overweight boomers on bicycles. You can form a club 'Boomers on Bikes'.

Clinton lenting herself 6.5 million..and other breaking news stories

http://www.faceoftruth.com/

Breaking news not news search compare to google news.

Hillary and her Clintards need to give it up.

Can McCain win over Dems? I used to be somewhat interested in McCain -- USNA grad, like my husband, etc. I thought he was moderate, but he has announced he'll seek to appoint conservative judges, which is a way of seeing he wants the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. I think he will lose a lot of the women's vote once the Democrats harp on this one point.

That, and he did not denounce Hagee as a person for his anti-Catholic vitriole.

I guess he really is Old School, when to get ahead you needed to be Episcopalian or mainline Protestant.

But that era is over, and he ought to know it. Instead, he doesn't get it.

Why any Catholic would vote for him is beyond me, if he can't completely and confidently denounce Hagee's support.

Time for Hillary-the-liar to go. She is the lie-est politician in the world. I don't know how anyone can stand her after that lie about Bosnia. How low can one go for power? If she wins the nomination I am not voting for her. I will stay away from the polls, since I would never vote for warmonger McCain.

What a waste of time, written garbage.

Enough of the lies, dirty tricks and deception. Hillary should not only do the democratic party a favor but the United States as well and go home. Obviously it's not meant for her to be president. Barack is what this country needs after 8 years of those crooks Bush and Chaney. Beside with all the lies, dirty tricks and deception, Hillary is just Bush posing as a democrat.

Oh, HRC will never be a QUITTER, but she will be a LOSER, whether it be the Democratic primary, or the general election

There were many, many reasons for Hill and Bill to not even enter the race! First off, we have a constitutional amendment that forbids more than 2 terms for anyone and given that Hill claims to have been a co-president for Bill and bill has claimed he would be a co-president for Hill....

It should be noted that Bill and Hill were minority elected Presidents; there time in the WH was adaquate, but not great, their staff was also meerly adaquate...I don't want them back!

Take a look at those Hill has used in this campaign, from Carville to Bill, there has been a consistent Rovian edge to the scorched earth actions of this dragon lady. Frankly, we can not survive another President trying to prove they have Balls by shooting up the world; nor one who will provide unqualified support of the Zionist nightmare with declarations of oblivion for Zionist fears and propaganda!

And frankly, we need a President who will "give up" the imperial ambitions of the absolute Presidency of George, rebuff the Fascist forces of Dick and his Neo-Con Corporate allies, return Washington to having at least the "lip service" to serving the people, and pulling the nation back from Christian Fundamental insurrection. I don't trust Hill to give up one inch of the privileges stolen by George, I don't trust Hill not to start George's WWIII to prove she is as tough as George, and don't trust her to turn back either the Corporate elite nor the Christian fundamentalists, and finally she would do nothing but make worse the nation's schism into unreconciliable factions.

In short, she is the wrong lady, at the wrong time!

The Post says most of its readers want Hillary to quit. Perhaps that's because most of her supporters can't read.

We Republicans will co-opt "working class" Democrats to generate the decisive edge in President McCain's relatively easy electoral victory.

Sorry, folks. The beat goes on.

In the long view [all Americans] especially women candidates for political office from both major parties will respect and admire that the first viable woman candidate for the presidency (Senator Hillary Clinton) was tenacious and did all she could to break the historical glass ceiling on the American presidency being a "male only" club.

Moreover, I think it is a good thing that voters in these later primaries are able to have an opportunity to help determine who the Democratic presidential nominee is; rather than just endorse the candidate that the early primary states have chosen as "their" nominee for all of us

Clinton is right to fight on for the nomination. Why should she demure in a close race to Obama and make his road more comfortable and easy? I think if Clinton were a man with this same relentless spirit that she would be celebrated and admired for being "Bull-dog tough", like Winston Churchill in the face of the Nazi's in WWII. Instead she is said to be trying to "steal" the election and harshly criticized for being a dogged determined competitor of the first order.

If Obama is the nominee, he will be battle tested and battle hardened for a tough fight in the general election because of his sparring with Clinton. McCain and the GOP will be tough on Obama and because of the lessons learned during this primary season, he should be better prepared to succeed against GOP assaults. Moreover, Obama must do better with winning white working class, so called Reagan Democrats, if he is to be viable in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania against McCain in the fall. He can thank Clinton for showing his weakness with this Democratic constituency and work to win these voters over by the November election.

Hang in there Hillary! Time will show that you were right on with doing so.

Whoops! I meant to write that Clinton should NOT quit the race when it is so close!

All Clinton cares about is power, and she's blind enough to think that she still has a chance of getting it. It makes me ashamed that I used to defend her...

I am undecided between Clinton and Obama, but I do not think that Clinton should quit the race when it is so close.

I wonder if anyone would suggest that a man quit the race at this stage? Should Obama concede? No!

Men are always using sports analogies, so here's one: would you quit the playoffs because you were afraid you'd lose the Super Bowl?

Ridiculous!

It is time for her to bow out, but I believe that it is also good to let everyone vote. At the end of this process she should gracefully concede and throw all her remaining strength toward Obama. She needs to show the country she is a good person and nothing will stop her until a Democrat is in the White House. She should denounce the tactics of the far right and concede that without Limbaugh's help she might not have won in Indiana. Beside it wouldn't hurt her if she decides to make the run again, she is still pretty young.

Hillary has too many strings to pull. She'll get the nomination and tick off a third of the Democratic Party. Someone mentioned a McCain-Powell ticket for the GOP. If that happens, I'm on board. I might even get out there and campaign myself.

Whether she wins or lose, she should stay the course, not just for herself, but for her supporters. Hillary needs to know that she gave it her all so when she looks back she will know that she was not a QUITTER. I will always respect her for doing that.

Hillary would sell your children to get back into the White House. It's just not going to work for her. She doesn't deserve the nomination. She can'y be trusted

I'm not an Obama fan, and I entered the primary season trying to keep an open mind about Hillary Clinton.

Still not an Obama fan, and I just want Hillary Clinton to concede. As the primary season has gone on, her incredible sense of entitlement towards the presidency is driving me crazy.

I'm unregistered, and generally vote for moderates. But man, I'm looking harder at McCain, hoping that he's put on a harder-right-wing appearance after years of more moderate behaviour just to get and keep the GOP nomination.

Once again, the Dems have left on the sidelines the best candidate -- John Edwards. Our knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of almost-sure victory in November is uncanny.

McCain will be our next president. Democrats like McCain and there won't be enough Republican voters who'll cross over to vote for an effete, leftwinger. McCain has always been popular with Democrats....Remember Kerry wanted him as VP in 2004? It WILL be McCain in 08!

Although Hillary is a pathological liar, she at least seems to vaguely appreciate the United States. It's hard to believe that the Democratic Party would prefer Barack Obama, who as far as anyone can tell doesn't salute the flag, attends a church that blames "The Government" for everything, and married a woman so simultaneously naive and hypocritical that she enjoyed every possible benefit the nation has to offer (top schools, $400,000 salary) and somehow can't stand the place.

Don't we want an American President who actually likes America? Shouldn't that be a basic qualification for anyone trying to obtain that office?

Only a blithering idiot would want to "change" America - the greatest country in the world, the oldest surviving democracy, and the font of most food, technology, and medicine on planet Earth.

Hillary should stay in the race. She has a lot of supporters that will be angry that she is being forced out. Obama is not going to meet the minimum number of delegates to win before the convention....So I say let the Super delegates decide. We need to hear from these last important states. It is bad enough that Florida and Michigan voters are being given the shaft

Hillary Clinton has to bow out! Even if things went differently with these delegates, she would still have no chance of beating McCain. And the result would be, another republican president. Another George W. Bush. Another 4,000 soldiers dead in Iraq and Afganistan. Another 20,000 Iraqi civilians killed. A Definite recession. Another $100,000,000,000 or so for this "War on Terrorism" as they call it. Obama, I think, has a better chance of beating McCain than Clinton ever will.

I seldom read these comments, but really...most of these people writing that Obama is not electable are either ignorant (look at the polls), Republican or leaners, or they are racist.. which is something no one is talkng about, but it is why he loses the less educated white vote. He has the smarts and the skill to convince these voters that their economic and security best interests do not lie with the GOP. Hillary needs to show some grace and patriotism and help heal this party by conceding and campaigning for Obama, to save our country for a third Bush term with McCain. She has helped create this GOP talking point and now needs to fix it. It is simply not true.

So,91% of Obama's North Carolina tribe voted for him--that's black racism at work. The black population of the U.S. is 12% of the total. In a general election, Obama will lose, because many people fear his exotic background, his inexperience, and that sharp-tongued wife! I'm a lifelong Democrat and come November, I'll be one who is voting Republican for the first time in my life.

No Hillary, your pride is a reason the Party should bleed for another month, maybe three. Trust me, it will be worth it in November.

GET OUT NOW!

Despite the desires of Obama supporters, I believe this will go all the way to the convention. The Democrats have to allow FL and MI to count, or they will be tainted for many years to come.

The reality is that both IN and NC are red states which the Republicans always win anyway. If you want to win the White House, you have to appeal to moderates and Reagan Democrats, not the far left of the party. When reality sinks in at Denver, hopefully the Democrats will have a reality check- otherwise, it will be 4 years of McCain. Obama is a weak candidate because of his lack of experience and his foreigh policy issues. Hillary is the stronger candidate, and the most qualified. This election is the Democrats to win- or lose. They can blame no one but themselves if McCain wins.

Hillary needs to stay in. Obama wining NC is a no brainer. Anyone voting for him is
not thinking about the future of this country. He is a loser who talks a good story. Not more.

Hillary Clinton should remain in this race through the DNC convention in August. Hillary must be the Dem nominee, if the Dems foolishly nominate an unelectable Obama it will destroy the entire ticket.

Hillary should rip Obama to shreds. She's been WAY too easy on him. The GOP surely will. Sooner rather than later when it's too late.

The Dems find themselves in an unenviable situation.

Rock on Hillary. Obama himself said Indiana is a tiebreaker. Hillary won.

Sorry to say that as a loyal democrat I see our party going the way of 1988 and 2004. The GOP will do a job on Obama. He can win the nomination but I doubt can win the election. There goes the Supreme Court!

Clinton had a chance last night in her "victory" speech to heal the party and save the Clinton's legacy.

I am very disappointed in Clinton and I think the American people are disappointed.

What we witnessed last night was the death of the old politics of pander, deception and divisiveness in the Democratic party. A sad spectacle of the end of the hypocritical politics that has controlled the Democratic party for decades.

Next stop McCain and the Republican party.

As one of the pesky 50% of the democrats that are not convinced in any way shape or form that Obama is an electable person I will write Hillary Clinton's name in as an independent before voting for him. I do not understand how educated people can come up with anything that man says and want it as a president. He is not the kind of man you all seem to think he is. Read the things he has said, the people he associates with and tell me if that is really someone presidential. I think not. It is a sad day when this is the best we can hope for is him? yuck.

Hey, Hillary...RIDE OUT!