Pentagon Says We're Sorry

The administration argued yesterday that the President has the Constitutional authority to order warantless surveillance, as Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez delivered a new legal defense to Congress of the National Security Agency's surveillance activities and Vice President Dick Cheney spoke at the Manhattan Institute.

"Our message to the American people is clear and straightforward," Cheney said. The NSA's programs "are within the president's authority and responsibility under the constitution and laws."

The battle lines are drawn, and on NSA, the administration seems hardened and unrepentant.

So, isn't it strange that the Defense Department is expressing contrition at the same time about its unlawful collection and retention of information on U.S. persons under its domestic force protection efforts?

Yesterday, Attorney General Gonzales sent Congress a 42-page legal defense of warrantless surveillance, expanding on arguments made in December that the President, under his Constitutional authority as commander-in-chief and as authorized by post 9/11 Congressional resolution granting him the use of force, has the authority to circumvent the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to conduct eavesdropping.

Meanwhile, the Pentagon also released a 2-page January 13 memorandum (pdf) directing "all DOD intelligence and counterintelligence (CI) personnel" to receive "refresher training on the policies for collection, retention, dissemination and use of information related to U.S. persons."

Early warning on December 14 reported the Pentagon program of domestic spying, in cooperation with NBC News. A Defense Department database covering the time period of 2004-2005 and leaked to this reporter gave a rare look at accelerated U.S. military intelligence collection since 9/11, including reporting on anti-war and anti-military recruiting protests throughout the United States.

The Defense Department database was prepared by the Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), which I had already written about and Walter Pincus began reporting on for this newspaper in November.

Now Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordan England is not only order sensitivity training at the Pentagon, but also directing CIFA to purge its "TALON" database of "any reports that should not be in the database.

TALON was a program initiated in May 2003 by former Deputy Secretary Pail Wolfowitz to provide the military services with a common reporting scheme for "non-validated" threat warnings with a possible link to terrorism. At least between 2003 and December of last year, that reporting was used to characterize the "threat" to the U.S. military domestically, and included reporting on incidents that had nothing to do with terrorism or had any conceivable terrorist connection.

It's somewhat funny that the Pentagon is now directing a review and purging of the TALON program, even though I reported on December 22 that the database in question is actually one that is larger and broader than TALON called the Joint Protection Enterprise Network (JPEN) database, an intelligence and law enforcement sharing system managed by CIFA.

JPEN incorporates not just TALON reporting from the military services, but also intelligence reporting and law enforcement information. Though it must comply with the same requirements to purge information about U.S. "persons" after 90 day if there is shown to be no foreign government, terrorist, or law enforcement connection, the Pentagon has so far managed not to discuss this expanded program of domestic information collection, nor the overall work of the super-secret CIFA.

England's memo might only solve part of the problem.

But it certainly sends the public message into the military ranks that the lawful activities of U.S. citizens are off-limits.

The Pentagon's willingness to make changes does stand in stark contrast to the administration's insistence not only as to the legality of the NSA program but also to its continuation.

By William M. Arkin |  January 20, 2006; 9:30 AM ET Domestic Role of the Military , Intelligence
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Posted by: Mississippi Hank | February 3, 2006 12:58 AM

Mr. Arkin,

Yes the Pentagon still has people who are professional and who remember that they took an oath to preserve and protect the "Constitution of the United States of America". So why wouldn't they apologize? Honor means something to most if not all, nobody's perfect, but they try.

I do have a suggestion as to how we can clear up a number of issues in the incipient constitutional crisis. If Mr. Fitzgerald would subpoena all of the transcripts from NSA, FBI and any other agency listening in on Whitehouse phones we could clear all of this up in a jiffy. These records were illegally generated by the NSA at the Bush's orders. However Mr. Fitzgerald can legally subpoena the phone records of the NSA of Whitehouse officials who leaked a CIA operatives name to the press to wreck her career to get at her husband Joe Wilson. If he did so two things might happen. 1. He would catch the culprits and have the lead pipe cinch evidence he needs for prosecution. 2. The Whitehouse would have to go to court to try to block him for fishing in illegally gathered phone intercepts from the NSA. We would be all witness to the spectacle of the Whitehouse arguing that because these records were illegally obtained and used by them they can't now be used by Fitzgerald in his prosecutions and yet simultaneously arguing that the President has the power to order the NSA to break the law for national security. No president or agency of our government is above the law. This has already been litigated before with Nixon's secret illegally generated whitehouse tapes and Bill Clinton's attempt to block his impeachment.

You know that these people in this Bush Whitehouse have been doing an enormous amount of butt covering. They have asked for and obtained opinions from the Justice department and other attorneys on staff to arm these chickenhawks with off the wall weird opinions that grant them dictatorial power. They have opinions that say they can lie, steal, start wars, torture, ignore the law, the courts, Congress, civil rights, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution to name just a few of their asserted prerogatives. It is madness and unamerican!

This is uncharted and dangerous territory we are treading as far as our freedoms are concerned. If they don't back down this old Goldwater republican will not be voting at all in the next election. I have not missed an election since I became eligible in 1962 and I have never voted for a democrat and probably never will. I will be asking all of my like minded old republican friends and family to do the same sit it out. If the democrat party is swept into power, so be it. Maybe they will have the guts to call this mad president to account.

Posted by: Red Ruffian | January 23, 2006 11:05 PM

I see nothing in the Bill of Rights excusing warrantless searches.

The fact that the administration wants to avoid the supervision of the courts makes me suspicious that the administration is covering up misdeeds or that it is so power-hungry that it would rather avoid following the inconvenient provisions of the law.

Osama bin Laden would no doubt be using similar tactics were he running this country, in that he would surely not allow the law to interfere with his rule.

Posted by: Bill of Rights | January 23, 2006 3:58 PM

"Our message to the American people is clear and straightforward," Cheney said. The NSA's programs "are within the president's authority and responsibility under the constitution and laws."


Give us a break...like any of us believe Mr
Cheney, George Bush or this administration.
Even setting aside the Plame Gate affair, and the Lincoln Group's buying off of the Iraq press, and a few Sunni Cleric's, and of course the Cunningham and Abramoff scandals, and there is still far too many examples of corruption and lies in this administration.

We need a MAJOR investigation of this entire administration, and it is time that Bush is impeached.

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Bin Laden Warns of Attacks, Offers Truce

A Duke professor says he is doubtful about Thursday's audiotape from Osama bin Laden.

Bruce Lawrence has just published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bin Laden, a book translating bin Laden's writing. He is skeptical of Thursday's message.

It was like a voice from the grave, Lawrence said.

He thinks bin Laden is dead and has doubts about the tape. Lawrence recently analyzed more than 20 complete speeches and interviews of the al Qaida leader for his book. He says the new message is missing several key elements.

There's nothing in this from the Koran. He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim, Lawrence said. He quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities.
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While the CIA confirms the voice on the tape is bin Laden's, Lawrence questions when it was recorded. He says the timing of its release could be to divert attention from last week's U.S. air strike in Pakistan. The strike targeted bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, and killed four leading al Qaeda figures along with civilians.

Lawrence believes faulty Pakistani intelligence led to the strike and the civilian deaths, and the tape was leaked by Pakistani authorities to divert attention from their mistake.

It led to a failed military operation where America got blamed, but they people who are really to blame are the ones who provided the intelligence, Lawrence said. I think this is an effort to say were not going look at this terrible incident that happened.

Another element that Lawrence takes issue with in bin Laden's latest message is its length - - only 10 minutes. Previously, the shortest was 18 minutes

Posted by: CHE | January 23, 2006 4:33 AM

Why not make America totally secure? Lets be open about it and put cameras and microhones in every home, car, bus, bar, and workplace so Dick and Bush can monitor all our movements and transactions ALL the time. Anyone who doesn't like it.. well.. the president can just call them a potential terrorist and lock them away indefinately without the need for an arrest warrant, or proof, or hearings:-|What happens if this is left as precident and we get someone in office who is less honest than Bush.. .(Is that possible?)

Since when did the US become the Soviet Union? By putting a name to the terrorists we seem to have forgotten that the enemies of America are the enemies of truth, justice, and liberty. I don't think, when put in that light, that it is difficult to understand that George "I Don't Need To Obey The Law" Bush is the #1 enemy of America!

Posted by: Dave | January 23, 2006 3:56 AM

If the legal requirements are for the DOD to purge all data older than 90 days if there is shown to be no foreign government, terrorist, or law enforcement connection, isn't that just another way of saying that it's legal for them to keep a rolling 90 day database of all electronic communications in this country anyway? If so, then warrants are kinda moot, and I haven't heard this point raised in this way yet. Any validity to this line of reasoning?

Posted by: butcher | January 23, 2006 1:27 AM

burning bush

You said "not after the confirmation of voices on the telephones from the plane passengers on 911hit that little glitch about cellphones not being able to work when the plane is at a certain height"

I wouldn't be so sure.

The antenna gain (eg in this case the ability to receive faint cellphone signals) is much greater on an NSA receiver than the gain from a cell phone tower.

So it is possible the the calls were intercepted (for the benefit of the American people and their loved ones) by a technical capability that the US Government would have to deny existed.

Posted by: Pete | January 22, 2006 10:25 AM

Kooky Karen, If the MSM was so bloody Liberal, as you have lied about, then why is it that we do not see wall-to-wall stories about the absolute horrors of Bush & Co., in all of their Dem-gone crazy glory? But, noooooooo no such luck. I wish there was a "Liberal Bias" by the media. That would be KILLER!!!!! But the MSM has no interest in Liberal anything. Unless it is about a blowjob, there is ALWAYS a sex obsessed Righty, to flip out on that subject. B O R I N G. Go shag yourself, K?

Posted by: BigHeavingSigh | January 22, 2006 4:27 AM

Mr. Arkin wrote:
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"A Defense Department database covering the time period of 2004-2005 and leaked to this reporter gave a rare look at accelerated U.S. military intelligence collection since 9/11..."
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I'm wondering how large was that database that's been leaked? Considering how large databases are for blogs and forums, compared to one for central intelligence, I find it rather difficult to believe someone has in their possession a copy of an ENTIRE database for one year.

If so the database must be very small (which means little activity); or the leak involves more than some print outs/PDFs/DVDs. More like tape backups and whole array of HDDs.

So in "truth in reporting", was the leak wholesale or just a few table grabs to make it appear larger than it is?

SandyK
Someone who has worked on dbs to know the difference

Posted by: SandyK | January 22, 2006 2:55 AM

Fellow readers,

This NSA stuff is absurd. The White House statements are not going to work. The RNC has taken the bait, and they will shortly have to adjust to something.

There is a surprise. There is a little known House rule which permits the State Legislatures to bring articles of impeachment. Also, House Precedent from a 1903 Case involving a Federal Judge in Florida successfully tested this approach.

Here is the link: [ http://tinyurl.com/7tmyg ]

Please be clear -- despite the RNC control of the House, there is a way to bring articles of impeachment. The 1903 case set the precedent: The House ordered an investigation ~without a committee hearing~; when the Committee reviewed the matter, they were unable to reach a consensus.

Articles of impeachment were subsequently passed. In other words, it doesn't matter than the RNC controls Congress; the real issue: Any of the 50 states can pass this proclomation.

I ask that you review the following link, and consider what you may wish to do in your state legislatures. I encourage you to contact your state officials -- and get this issue on your state's agenda.

The results of this state level action will be important. If your state does not wish to participate, that is understandable -- but it will be important for others to learn the reasons, and others may learn what else can be done.

The problem Rove and the RNC have -- they have committed to a 2006 election plan; but have not considered the State-level proclomation. Also, consider that over 500 communities have passed resolutions against the Patriot Act -- which is not stalled because of RNC defections.

Good luck.

Posted by: Constant | January 21, 2006 9:56 PM

The truth is hate speech to those with something to hide. http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/washpostblog/2006/01/shutting_off_co.html

The whole poinmt of "announcing" the spying on every citizen is to discourage people from talking to each other about what is going on, out of fear the wrong ears will overhear. So, if you quit talking to your friends and neighbors about the war being wrong, then Bush and his Christo Fascist Zionist Hoodlum Neocon buddies have won. BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

USA! USA! USA!

This whole Bin Laden tape thing is a real puzzle. I guess he doesn't have a video tape of himself anymore--after being dead for a while, that is probably a good thing. It also stops the pesky internet bloggers from pointing out again that the guy on the tape isn't Bin Laden.
If the CIA is right about the authenticity of the tape, then we are no doubt being addressed by Bin Laden's astral voice at this point. Of course, we can't be too sure about any voice identification by the CIA--not after the confirmation of voices on the telephones from the plane passengers on 911hit that little glitch about cellphones not being able to work when the plane is at a certain height.

There is one way the American people can judge the authenticity of everything after the next attack. Bin Laden mentions Bush ten times and is obviously not a fan of his or of his Washington cabal. In contrast he mentions that the American public does not support their military staying in Iraq. That means Bin Laden has no reason to attack the American people--just the American government. Thus, if the next attack results in the IMF building in New York being bombed, or the Bush family and the Washington politicians being bombed, then we could suspect Bin Laden, If the American people are attacked, it is not Bin Laden behind the attack.

And you know what--either way the result will be a powerful move in the right direction for the American people.

Posted by: the burning bush | January 21, 2006 10:25 AM

William

A good update on the collection problems of Defence security agencies.

My recent article on this issue at http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/2006/01/new-secret-coppers-spy-on-americans.html includes the following

"The "unfiltered" nature of TALON suggests lack of quality control so bona fide peace demonstrators demonstrating their democratic rights may have their identities added to the TALON database if "patriotic" counter demonstators so report.

Turning to the NSA. The NSA does not soley decide which Americans to spy on. Many other agencies, such as the FBI, Secret Service, CIFA and Treasury provide the NSA with prioritised lists of persons and organisations of interest. So the scandal of a "rogue NSA" should more rightly be applied, as well, to the "customer agencies" who ask it to spy on particular Americans.

It is likely that NSA has always spied on Americans to some extent, through warrents and quiet political directives. The "War on Terror" has given this activity greater legitimacy and an (official) perception of legality.

Assuming domestic spying on Americans is necessary chiefly for counterterrorism reasons, my initial prejudice would be to "leave it to the experienced professionals in the FBI". But given the frequent international linkages to domestic terrorism tighter coordination of international intelligence (eg the CIA) and national intelligence (eg. FBI) is necessary and in the last 12 months this coordination has been slowly occuring.

...the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) and CIFA under the Defense umbrella duplicate many of the functions and capabilities of the CIA and FBI, but (in theory) with a defense orientation. As they are hidden in Defense's monstrous size and budget the Defense spy bodies are far less publicly accountable than the better known civilian agencies."

This article owes much to "Corralling Domestic Intelligence" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/12/AR2006011201852.html?sub=new by Walter Pincus

Wikipedia's entry on CIFA was also handy and I must admit that your analysis forms a very good basis to build on.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com

Posted by: Pete | January 20, 2006 11:25 PM

'simple facts are enough to draw conclusions'[Name] said "the backbone of the internet is laid on the old infrastructure of DARPAnet, which later moved to DODnet and ARPAnet, before the AOL opened access....AOL is in Reston, VA or maybe it's Herndon, VA which is about 12 minutes from CIA headquarters... "

I think it was Netcom.com (who eventually was eaten up eventually by Earthlink) actually who was first on the block in the civilian realm (remember when advertising was taboo?), correct me if I'm wrong. But, the point elucidates the fact that in this well developed electronic age the concept of privacy is becoming more academic. There should be as much if not more concern of what is occuring with our personal info in the 'private sector'. With liability protections for many private entities being elaborated in fine print and management of these data all over the globe, security of that should be a big concern. Many of those databases of info that can now be linked and accessed. But more important is not that the NSA is looking at gathering info and poking around, but what will be done with the information that is 'glued' together. Knowledge is power. Who has that power (or hands on the info) and how are they going to wield it for what purpose? Protect against terrorism? Sounds reasonable, but is that the only thing that will be done with the info. However, it is amazing what can be done with computing power and a 'complete data set'. One can even reasonably predict human social behaviour. Considering the regulatory burden that continually faces businesses, particularily small businesses, I would think many business owners many who are republicans, should be more concerned than anyone about CIFA. Those with the knowledge and the money can manipulate the laws, determine those who get elected and determine the rules. Those without 'the knowledge' have to play by the rules made by those who do. It is fine if you like the rules, but it definitly stacks the odds against you if you don't 'have the ball' or someone knows your 'plays ahead of time'. If the ones that make the rules break them, they probably have the money for the attorneys who also advised them ahead of time to keep sensitive stuff buried in attorney client privledge (or some other facade). If they are a big enough fish they can just make it up as they go along and make a movie to convince the public that their illusion is real. The smaller the fish, well, we all know what happens to small fish in a big ocean with bigger fish.

Posted by: HAL | January 20, 2006 9:33 PM

Peggy Noonan the Reagan-Bush speechwriter?

Now there's a credible and objective source!

Posted by: Richard B. Simon | January 20, 2006 7:18 PM

Here's a quote from a news story in the COlorado Daily.... THIS IS A BIG DEAL!!!

Quote from Bush in 2004 --

"A wiretap requires a court order," President Bush declared in a statement in 2004. He added, "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order when we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand [that] constitutional guarantees are in place... because we value the Constitution."

Posted by: john cook | January 20, 2006 6:20 PM

is sort of like ignoring the elephant standing in your living room.

THIS is the elephant?->

in a sense an instance looks like an instance....the wider issue is that if there's no war, all of this is moot....


care to step up to the bar and realize THAT?

wouldn't you think more amerikans could perceive the obvious?


is it just the propaganda machine or are you all sniffing something funny?

Posted by: I guess it would seem that saying oh, there's an elephant hair in my soup.... | January 20, 2006 6:06 PM

Hmmm... this thread doesn't seem to have much (if anything) to do with the article 'The Pentagon Says We're Sorry'. Is the object of everyone posting here to persuade the rest of us that they are all idiots? If so, mission accomplished!

Posted by: tbrucia | January 20, 2006 4:42 PM

Karen and TheStory, I think you got "served".

Read Sr. Bojangles longer post. I think he hit your nail on the head.

Posted by: Sorry for you | January 20, 2006 2:44 PM

what is going on versus what do they say is going on?


the backbone of the internet is laid on the old infrastructure of DARPAnet, which later moved to DODnet and ARPAnet, before the AOL opened access....AOL is in Reston, VA or maybe it's Herndon, VA which is about 12 minutes from CIA headquarters...

everything is monitored....it was set up that way....


forget about your phone calls if you're not encrypting your emails....heee heee heeee....

Posted by: simple facts are enough to draw conclusions. | January 20, 2006 2:37 PM

you're a man posting as a woman.

give it up Chris....


hatred of being lied to, does not equate to being against the military....


if the military were doing it's job, the president would be getting arrested this afternoon....


get it weenie?

Posted by: Karen you're not even a woman.... | January 20, 2006 2:32 PM

the president said what you needed to protect yourself from a terrorist attack after 9/11 was:


duct-tape and plastic....


is this serious advice from a man that can't even say nuclear?

We don't want "them" the current government to stage a terrorist attack,


nor do we want _them_, pissed off, disenfranchised natives of whatever country to pop us a good one....


so what I'm pointing out is this:

the 9/11 Commission said that the current administrations response to the recommedations of the commission after 9/11 is "nil" and borders on criminal.


IF your president believed that there was a threat, he would have acted so as to respond to it and prevent it, he didn't...

THIS is how he has acted: appointed to the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, a man whose qualifications were to have been head of the Appaloosa Hores Association.....and then Katrina hits and bush says "Brownie is doing a heckuva job, wave brownie!!!"


We have had about 4.5 million illegal aliens move into the country over the last 5 years, most with black hair and swarthy appearance......we have not had one terrorist attack inside of the united states....unless you count bush's media blitzes and changing the "code" level,

and oh yeah, the unabomber....

again, I'm not saying we haven't pissed some people off...


one of them should be YOU

Posted by: Let me reiterate..... | January 20, 2006 2:30 PM

Seems I struck a nerve. Your rapid hatred of American soldiers, all except Murtha, speaks for itself. Please, please continue to side with the terrorists. Your childishness is what makes the democratic party irrelevant. Do you really think you will win any elections? And to be in total denial about the liberal media is proof of your ignorance. I don't listen to Limbaugh, but I just might start. I enjoy watching you stand up for the right to privacy for terrorists.

Posted by: Karen | January 20, 2006 2:28 PM

All readers who doubt that there is a liberal slant in the news should rush to the local library and check out Allen Drury's book,"Capable of Honor" which was
published in 1966. It is a fictional prediction of what is now going on. It describes the furor of indignation that took place after the fictional president invaded a fictional African country after the Africans murdered about 45 missionaries and bombed the avaraicious Standard Oil Refinery there. If you are at a loss of new derogatory names to call the president of the U. S. then read the book.

Posted by: thestory | January 20, 2006 2:27 PM

Karren,

Sucking your thumb at your age? Tsk, tsk. I would have thought you'd have dropped the baby routine by now. Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson are the voice of the right you silly girl. Only Conservative Apologists who support the fascism of the right try to deny it. I suggest you grow up, Peggy Noonan should grow up too, she's as absurd and un-American as you are. You're both part of the Republican Menace casting a paul over this nation.

Posted by: Robert In West Hollywood | January 20, 2006 2:24 PM

Quote: 'I suggest you read Peggy Noonan in the WSJ today. She basically puts outdated media like WaPo in their places...... THe internet has made your significance miniscule. Please, go after the military. Then look at the level of respect Americans have for the military versus reporters. '


Apparently your republican companions don't have a lot of respect for the military considering the swift-boat treatment meted out to Murtha.

Posted by: Dick Charles | January 20, 2006 2:08 PM

In case you missed it. Excellent article about Col. Wilkerson. Very interesting and VERY well written. A must read, in my book, for all who have opinions on the war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011802607.html

Posted by: Sr. Bojangles | January 20, 2006 1:24 PM

Not that most of us have not fingured out that Osama is an employee in this enterprise, rather than any sort of enemy of the Bush-Saudi cartel, but there do still seem to be a few diehards who insist that there is some sort of threat out there (presumably in order to assist them in ignoring the real threat, which is alive and well on Pennsylvania Avenue). So, for those of you who still line up to goosestep in the chorus of the Dick and His Dummy George Show, I have a simple question. If Osama and his mad hoardes of dangerous religious fanatics are just waiting for an opening to kill innocent Americans with conventional, unconventional, biological and (gasp) potentially nuke-u-lore weapons of massive destructive power, where were they during Hurricane Katrina? Has there ever been in the past 230 years of the American Republic a better opportunity for a biological attack? One person wanders into the Superdome (identification of good American citizenship certainly not required), spreads around a vial of conatgion-of-the-week, and then wanders away while FEMA ships the newly infected hosts all over the country. The only explanation I can think of why it wouldn't have been tried (it's not as if they didn't have plenty of time to catch up with the opportunity) is if al-Quaeda already knew that FEMA was going to blow it so badly that they thought it wasn't worth the effort.

The far more believable alternative, of course, is that al-Quaeda has never existed in any reality outside of a convenient tool for the Saudis and their Neocon employees to occasionally, and on cue, scare us into swallowinig the Bush line of bullshit.

Posted by: Intersting concept, that Bin Laden guy | January 20, 2006 1:13 PM

When the millitary denounces the Criminals and "Mayberry Machevellians" in the White house we'll accept the apology.

Until then "its on".

IMPEACH AND IMPRISON THE VIOLATERS OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT

Posted by: APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED | January 20, 2006 1:08 PM

The remarkable element of this admin's reaction to news and commentary is their unshakable ability to address every topic from a whole new reality. And what's more unbelievable is that so many people jump onboard with nary a second thought.

This idea that the White House can just come out and say "Listen here, all of this is legal!" is offensive to my intelligence. And then anyone who questions it is attacked by the entire, unified right wing as traitors, or whatever their vitriol of the week may be. ENOUGH! Either you want to discuss all this or be quiet (Karen as an example). Calling people names is not a discussion.

A Republican senator said the I word the other day (impeachment). Five former Republican heads of EPA have called for more attention on global warming or we are harming our nation. The Senate voted against the president and for a real-world definition of torture 90-9.

Republicans hear the call - there is no liberal media! For 15 years Republicans have pushed this idea down our throats and unfortunately the media has been seriously affected by it (this liberal media tag was first popular in the 60' & 70's, it isn't even original). Post 9-11 there was not one critical thought in any newsroom. Now, because of the fear of being called liberal, this very paper insists on calling the Abramoff scandal a problem for both parties when the quid-pro-quo money has ONLY been shown to be that of Republicans. Both parties receive campaign money everyday, but the dirty money WAS ONLY TO REPUBLICANS!

All of you liberal media conspiracy theorist BEGONE! Whining is not becoming. We need the media to find it's critical compass again. It is lost.

Word of advice to my right-wing counterparts: the next time you stick your head out of your right-wing media safety crib and hear news that you don't like, just this once, don't immediately assume that there's some conspiracy behind it. Think for a second that it is slightly possible that you've just learned something.

Posted by: Sr. Bojangles | January 20, 2006 1:04 PM

Here's a link to the 42-page DOJ memo (thanks to Steve Aftergood at FAS):

http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/doj011906.pdf

Posted by: jmsimons | January 20, 2006 12:34 PM

wake up and think for your selves...


what's so hard about that...


look at what is going on.


form your own opinions, ask questions....
quit worrying about whether they'll come to your doors and take you away....


if you have given up the right to think and ask questions yourselves, they already have stolen something from you....your self esteem.

Deal-Aid, Cunning-Ham, Chain-ing, Bushwah, Carl-The-Rove-Sell-YOU-What you don't want....

they're all about corruption, bait-n-switch, collusion, deal-making between themselves.....

you're not on their team.....

remember? piss 'em off, you'll spend some time behind bars as a terrorist....

courtesy of the rape of the "BILL OF RIGHTS" by your anti-Patriot Act by your ANTICHRISTian patriots of my-gawd-is-your-gawd-money....

beleffaspew.

Posted by: if I made one wish it would be to have you all.... | January 20, 2006 12:21 PM

Karen, your leaders are war criminals, US Forces are a terrorist organization led by the World's #1 Tyrant, George WMD Bush.
The entire US Government and its Corporate State Controlled Media should be lined up and shot without the benefit of clergy.

Posted by: The Enabling Act | January 20, 2006 12:11 PM

who they serve, which isn't a higher power it's only a class of people....the upper crust then they don't know that being patriotic, isn't.

if you serve a despot that means that you've lost your ability to judge reality...given up your citizenship to an ideal of daddy-is-alway-right-and you're-NOT-ALLOWED TO-THINK for yourselves.....too bad, and you seemed like such nice people pentagonians....


how's 'bout this?

why would we attack pakisstan with a missle when an assassination would have been a little easier on our press in pakistan.....

IF there really isn't a war, are they trying to provoke one....gain some sort of credibility? stir one up? IF the natives attack then we have a reason to defend ourselves?


how's about this about that olde tyme flavorite Omar Ben ALA-Ladden, sheaf from olde araby:


I mean really everytime the Bush administration needs a boost, more votes, wants to push something through, the 6'6" unseeable-diabetic arab manages to stagger out of his bed in Riadyh and tape another message for his boss....


just in time to get the overly stimulated Amerikan public stirred up again....along with an infomercial from Colt about how having your own arsenal makes the ladies hot....c'mon.

I think I saw him in the runaway hit show "Runway" with Heidi Klum disguised as "Santino."


All this government has to do is tell you that there are monsters out there and you give away your right to think and question...fear-full babies, poseurs and those that have erectile dysfunction, are moved to patriotic fervor by such actions....not to demean those that actually have medical problems and not ego ones.


You're being invaded all right, by ludicrous notions that somehow that people that lie, steal, thwart justice and obey their own agendas...


have your best intersts at heart...

is that your soap over there?

Where's the evidence? When't the last time the president paid for your coke habit like his daddy did?

Who stands to benifit from controlling the oil in Saudi, Quwait and Iraq?
And think in terms of people that know each other, not nations.

Oh, that's right the Bushes do know the bin Ladins' maybe ee's raht 'arry.


If the Brits invade India and it's the 1600's is it to teach them democracy or to control spice trade?


The only problem is that YOU, supposedly come from a democratic country....and you have to be convinced that what your affluent, carefully disguised as goverment leaders invoking the power of a "GOOD GAWD" against the powers of the bad gawds of everyone else.....since youse have such simple minds agree must be the right thing.

bin Laden is an operative of the US government, obviously....think about it....look at the effect of things and quit letting others frame the way you interpret events.

Posted by: Well, if the government is controlling the media, but doesn't know..... | January 20, 2006 12:11 PM

"Pail" Wolfowitz, that's rich

Posted by: johannes holub | January 20, 2006 11:35 AM

your predicament is really quite unfortunate as a people.you authorized to exact revenge on a[percieved enemy that has no face,nor fear of death then here you are squabbling over the issue of privacy?get a lif ,americans!!!

Posted by: hadji_tochi | January 20, 2006 11:31 AM

I am illiterate.

Posted by: Karen | January 20, 2006 11:27 AM

Karen: please just go back and continue listening to rush limbaugh and fox news. Continue to listen to the propoganda and no one will take your comments seriously. the press is doing americans a great service as they stand watch over an administration that causes most common sense americans to question their leadership!

Posted by: Conrad | January 20, 2006 10:29 AM

I suggest you read Peggy Noonan in the WSJ today. She basically puts outdated media like WaPo in their places. Mr. Arkin, you are no longer relevant. Americans will click on the WaPo and NYT to see what the radical left is thinking, much as they will listen to the rants of Jerry Falwell to see what the radical right is up to. THe internet has made your significance miniscule. Please, go after the military. Then look at the level of respect Americans have for the military versus reporters.

Posted by: Karen | January 20, 2006 10:19 AM

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