Disassembling, and Talking, Nuclear Junk
Is the Bush administration accelerating the retirement of old nuclear warheads in order to pave the way for a consensus to build new ones?
Today's Post reports plans by the Department of Energy to dismantle a greater number of "non-operational" warheads, an ongoing program that they admit has grown lethargic over the years. The United States has as many as 6,000 non-operational warheads in the stockpile.
The DOE say that the plan to speed up dismantlement is "in part to counter any impression that the United States is starting a new arms race with its work to develop a new generation of more reliable nuclear arms," the Washington Post's Walter Pincus writes.
"Dismantlements are a key element of our strategy to ensure that stockpile and infrastructure transformation is not misperceived by other nations as 'restarting the arms race,' " DOE Deputy Secretary Clay Sell told the House last week.
It is a laudable goal.
Perhaps those well meaning folk at the DOE should speak to the President when he leaves the nuclear option on the table. Perhaps they should coordinate with the rest of the U.S. government, where the program of "global strike" and post 9/11 nuclear strategies is actually increasing nuclear options and conveying a far more damaging and countervailing "impression."
And -- gentle prod -- perhaps my old friend Walter Pincus (and the Post) should expunge the use of old language from his writing, a slip that I think just lets the old warriors perform a deceptive numbers game.
An "arms race" as we knew it in the Cold War is no longer in the cards. In fact, numbers aren't the issue today at all. Nuclear advocates in the Pentagon and at U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM) could do everything they wanted to do against say, an Iran, with just a handful of nuclear weapons.
But silly me: The target here is really the U.S. Congress. More than anything else, DOE and the Defense Department would love to convince skeptical members of Congress that they should support the production of new "boutique" nuclear warheads. They are hoping that their willingness to throw out old junk they've been hoarding just for this purpose will be successful in getting the go ahead.
The United States has not produced a new nuclear warhead in more than a decade, that is, since production of the last W88 Trident II warheads. From the Reagan administration's attempt to build the "neutron bomb" to this current administration's interest in various bunker busters and mini-nukes, the body politic (and the Congress) has rejected new warheads.
As the U.S. nuclear arsenal has shrunk from tens of thousands to just thousands of warheads (applause), the ridiculous, obsolete and impractical warheads have been retired: gone are the nuclear land mines, the bazookas, the anti-submarine warheads, the coastal cruise missiles, the air defense missiles ringing American cities, the air-to-air missiles, nuclear artillery, short-range missiles on the battlefield, bombs on aircraft carriers, the multi-megaton behemoths.
Our nuclear arsenal today is downright streamlined. There are only -- umm -- 10,000 warheads in today's stockpile. According to my good friends Stan Norris at NRDC and Hans Kristensen at the Federation of American Scientists, today there are 5,735 active or operational warheads, with approximately 4,225 additional warheads held in the reserve or inactive stockpiles.
DOE has already announced plans to dismantle a larger number of the inactive warheads. If all the plans were implemented, by sometime in the next decade, the poor United States would be left with only about 2,700 available strategic and non-strategic nuclear warheads.
Speaking at the House hearing last week, Dale Klein, the top Pentagon nuclear official, said: "We're reluctant to give up a lot of the nuclear weapons in the stockpile unless we see the capability to manufacture new ones."
Even where progress has been made in actual deployments and practices, the Bush team seems intent on going in the opposite direction and signaling a greater relevance for U.S. nuclear weapons.
Take the Tomahawk sea-launched cruise missile, for instance. The first Bush administration decided to remove the long-range nuclear armed Tomahawks from routine carriage on attack submarines, and since the early 1990's, only a small number of select Los Angeles class and some Virginia-class submarines have retained nuclear certification and capability to reload the missiles should there be a reversal of fortunes.
The full up nuclear Tomahawk missiles with W80 nuclear warheads are kept in storage at two submarine facilities, one on the east coast in King's Bay, Georgia, the other on the west coast at Bangor, Washington. In total, the United States has about 300 W80 warheads.
Under an almost billion dollar program, the Navy plans to refurbish the missiles (DOE will update the warheads), extending the service life to around 2040. Rep. David L. Hobson (R-OH) has been pushing the government to give up the W80 altogether, dangling the possibility of a new warhead if it can see itself to spending its money elsewhere.
The hiccup here is that the Tomahawks were never really fully retired. After Bush I decided to remove the missiles, two-thirds were place in the "inactive" stockpile. But the other one-third (100 nuclear missiles) were kept in the "active" stockpile. This means that they have Tritium loaded and ready for immediate use. Within days or certainly within weeks, the nuclear Tomahawks could be reloaded.
As I said, it was a good thing to get them out of the water, to not have them going into foreign ports, to not burden submariners and the military with the day-to-day headaches of possessing and planning for the use of nuclear weapons.
But as for a strategy of avoiding "misperceptions"? As a way of creating fine "impressions" out there in the world? We just have thousands at the ready, with hundreds of others still on hair trigger alert, racing to nowhere.
By William M. Arkin |
May 4, 2006; 8:15 AM ET
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Bush Nazi Party / Arian Nation confess or
who will survive and rule?
Bush Nazi Party/Arian Nation __________
Americans For Justice SOG __________
Whats your vote
Posted by: Voting POLE | May 31, 2006 3:59 PM
The 270 some Nuclear Warheads that are alleged to be missing are not missing.
More then 100 of them are here in the United States in the hands of the Arian Nation and in the control of its Nazi Leader President George Walker Bush.
Most of the rest of them are in our control.
Bush power base rely's on the illegal government "Think Tank Exeriment" to which our freind has been enslaved to by these Nazi Criminal's.
And you idiots elected Bush.
Or did you?
Posted by: Americans For Justice SOG Members | May 31, 2006 3:54 PM
Seams 5 years ago a majority of halfwits elected ( or did they? ) a Halfwit, who promptly started screaming "TERROR" as only a halfwit population could believe. Halfwit has found a new weapon to assure the denial of Democracy and Freedom to all the people of the world. It's called " Now Shutup All ". The ultimate weapon to silence dissent.
The starving Arab and Persian hoards, that the mentality of the halfwit population can't figure out, is that someone else's independence is as precious as their own. "After all, they commit suicide for theirs". How many halfwits would show the same commitment, and it's happening right now.
In the meantime the Halfwit is screaming "TERROR" to a nuclear threat 10 years down the pike, and "TERROR" to a bunch of needy people on our southers border. PUT THEM IN PRISON, DENY THEM, BUT DON'T CORRECT THE PROBLEM THAT CAUSES THEM TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Nuff sed
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Posted by: ictoo | May 18, 2006 12:58 PM
How come nobody has yet brought out that General Hayden is in line to head the C.I.A. because he, who initiated, supported and defends domestic spying, has dossiers on most members of Congrerss? That's why they may spout off for newsbites, but then vote for any program the administration puts forth. You remember Duke Cunningham and the 'limo' service, run by a convicted felon who got a $25 million no-bid contract for 'customer service,' said to include a stable of non-gender specific prostitutes? Who do you think arranged to compile the dossiers on Congress? For the same reason as domestic spying--to be used as threats and intimidation. Wake up, my fellow countrymen. In another few months it may be too late.
Posted by: Susan McCabe | May 12, 2006 9:35 PM
Who cares how many more "noukleer" the pentagon wants or gets! The only question relevant today is whether we have a madman who will use them to launch a premptive strike and thereby begin the greatest nuclear arms buildup this world has even seen.
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US government continues to escalate domestic spying
By Joe Kay and Marge Holland
5 May 2006
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Nearly five months after the secret National Security Agency spying program was first revealed in the media, the US government continues its unchecked expansion of domestic spying powers. Several recent reports document this expansion, which is taking place on many fronts, involving the military, federal intelligence agencies, and local police forces.
The NSA program, which involves the warrantless monitoring of emails and other communications in violation of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), has received the most attention. In spite of its blatant illegality, the program continues, with no serious move by either political party to stop it. The Bush administration has openly flouted decisions by Congress and the courts, asserting that warrantless spying on US citizens is part of the president's powers as commander-in-chief in the "war on terror."
The NSA program is only one component of a much broader policy undermining basic democratic and constitutional rights in the United States, all justified by a supposedly ubiquitous terrorist threat. However, their real purpose is to vastly expand the powers of the government to monitor and repress internal dissent under conditions of mounting social tension and political opposition to the policies of the Bush administration.
Taken together, these developments provide a picture of a government that is systematically laying the foundations for a police state.
On Monday, May 1, the Justice Department released statistics documenting a sharp increase in the number of court-approved warrants the FBI has sought and received as part of the procedures established by the FISA Act. In 2005, the FBI received 2,072 warrants from the FISA court to conduct searches and electronic surveillance, up 18 percent from 2004.
Significantly, the FISA court did not reject any of the government's applications for warrants. The supposed difficulty of receiving warrants through the FISA procedures has been cited as one of the principal justifications for the warrantless NSA spying program, which is being carried out outside of any judicial oversight.
In addition to the FISA warrants, the government reported that the FBI issued 9,254 "national security letters" to US businesses and institutions to demand information on over 3,500 US citizens and residents. National security letters are used by the FBI to get personal records, including everything from Internet activity to records of purchases. They do not require any court review. The ability of the FBI to issue these letters was significantly expanded by the Patriot Act, passed shortly after the attacks of September 11, 2001.
A Washington Post article published last year reported that the FBI is now issuing 30,000 national security letters every year, an enormous increase over previous years. However, unlike the figure of 9,254 reported by the government, the Post's numbers included a type of subpoena that only requests limited information such as a person's name. It is therefore impossible to say whether the 2005 figure represents an increase over the figure reported by the Post.
No information has been provided by the government as to who it has targeted with these secret subpoenas, or what information has been collected.
Draconian intelligence bill passes US House of Representatives
The House passed the Fiscal Year 2007 Intelligence Authorization Bill on April 26, allocating $44 billion to the various US intelligence agencies.
Republicans in the House blocked various amendments placing minor restrictions on the NSA spying program, including one that would require that classified reports on the program be given to the full House Intelligence and Judiciary committees. This hardly would have hampered the illegal spying on US citizens, as the government has already given regular reports for years to a smaller group of legislators of both parties, who have helped keep the program secret from the American people.
The intelligence bill must pass the Senate before becoming law. Republican Senator Arlen Specter, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has suggested that he might file an amendment that would block spending for the NSA program. However, Specter has already assured the White House that he won't actually seek a vote on the amendment at this time.
In addition to massive spending and the rejection of any constraints on the NSA program, the intelligence authorization bill also includes several measures that would significantly increase the spying and policing powers of the CIA and the NSA. Sections 423 and 432 of the bill would give certain personnel responsible for security within the CIA and the NSA authority to "make arrests without a warrant for any offense against the United States committed in the presence of such personnel, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States." Section 432 also gives NSA officials explicit authority to carry firearms.
In an April 24 letter sent to Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Peter Hoekstra and ranking Democrat on the panel Jane Harman, the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) noted that the majority of illegal acts committed by the CIA in the 1960s and 1970s were done in the name of CIA security powers to protect its facilities--the powers that are now being expanded to allow the agency to arrest anyone, anywhere in the country.
"As the 1976 Church Committee report noted," POGO wrote, "the stated basis for the creation of programs that resulted in the improper investigation of US citizens and US political groups, such as Projects RESISTANCE and MERRIMAC, was a dubious reading of statutes authorizing the Director of Central Intelligence to 'be responsible for protecting intelligence sources and methods from unauthorized disclosure.' This was expansively interpreted by the CIA as 'authorization for the protection of CIA personnel and facilities against any kind of "security threat" including the possibility of violent demonstrations by the public.' The application of this interpretation resulted in the proactive infiltrating by CIA operatives into student and political groups."
The intelligence bill not only gives the CIA increased powers needed to engage in such activities again, but grants the same powers to the NSA at a time when the agency has been implicated in massive illegal spying of US citizens. The NSA police forces, which currently have the power to arrest people within a 500-foot perimeter of NSA facilities, have also been recently involved in collaborating with local police forces to monitor peace groups planning protests of the NSA.
These measures are further steps in the establishment of a secret intelligence/police agency in the United States that is able to monitor virtually any communications between US citizens and rapidly make arrests of individuals deemed to be engaging in illegal activities, including protesters who are designated as "threats" to intelligence or defense facilities.
The bill also includes a measure that would require the director of national intelligence to study the possibility of revoking the pensions of intelligence agents who leak classified information without authorization. The section is a transparent response to a number of significant leaks in recent months that have revealed aspects of the criminal activities of the government, including the NSA spying program and the CIA's use of secret torture and detention centers in Europe.
The administration has threatened to criminally prosecute intelligence agents as well as journalists for their role in publishing classified information.
The intelligence authorization bill passed the House by a vote of 327-96, with overwhelming bipartisan support.
On the same day that the intelligence bill passed the House, the government filed a motion in a federal court in San Francisco to dismiss a lawsuit brought against AT&T by the Electronic Frontier Foundation. EFF, an organization that promotes electronic privacy, has brought a class-action civil lawsuit against the telecommunications giant, charging it with collaborating with the NSA in violating the privacy of its customers by giving the government access to emails and other communications.
As part of the suit, the EFF has filed documents obtained by a former technician at AT&T proving that the company set up a separate room for the NSA and allowed the agency to monitor all the communications passing through its routers. The agreement with AT&T was part of the NSA's secret spying program. Administration officials have claimed that the program is intended to monitor only calls involving someone in another country who is suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda. The documents obtained by the EFF, however, indicate that the NSA has access to vast databases of communications that include purely domestic emails and calls between US residents and citizens.
The government, which is not named in the suit, has appealed for the case to be dismissed on the grounds that it could reveal state secrets. William Weaver, a law professor and senior advisor to the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, told Wired News that the government's intervention will almost certainly end the EFF case and ensure that any documents in the case remain sealed. "There has never been an unsuccessful invocation of the state secrets privilege when national security is involved," he said. "The suit is over."
If the case is dismissed, it will close one of the few avenues available for challenging the illegal domestic spying.
Military steps up role in domestic spying
A report in the Wall Street Journal on April 27 ("Pentagon Steps Up Intelligence Efforts Inside US Borders" by Robert Block and Jay Solomon) documents the military's role in the surveillance of opposition groups in the Untied States.
"After 9/11," the newspaper reported, "the Bush administration declared the continental US a theater of military operations for the first time since the Civil War.... Now several parts of the vast Pentagon bureaucracy are building large databases of information from sources including local police, military personnel and the Internet. In doing so, the military is edging toward a sensitive area that has been off-limits to it since the 1970s: domestic surveillance and law enforcement."
The military has focused on antiwar protesters and according to the Journal, "the Pentagon has monitored more than 20 antiwar groups' activities around the country over the past three years. It has reviewed photographs and records of vehicles and protesters at marches to see if different activities were being organized by the same instigators."
The military database is connected to the program run by the NSA, as well to initiatives that were originally part of the Pentagon's now officially abandoned Total Information Awareness program. After a public outcry over TIA, which was to involve the accumulation of vast databases to help the government spy on the American people, the program was renamed and several of its components were moved around, but the basic plan has remained in place.
According to the Journal, some of the TIA components ended up in the hands of the Army's 902nd Military Intelligence Group, "the military's largest counterintelligence unit [which] has hundreds of soldiers stationed around the country." The 902nd makes extensive use of the Joint Regional Information Exchange System, "which gathers information collected by civilian law enforcement agencies around the country," the newspaper reported. "The Pentagon and local authorities including the New York Police Department and California's justice department set it up in December 2002," but it "got a boost when the Department of Homeland Security took it over and expanded it to include information from all 50 states and major urban areas."
Meanwhile, according to an article appearing in the May 8 issue of US News and World Report ("Spies Among Us," by David E. Kaplan), the Justice Department is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to fund state and local police intelligence units. Additional funds have gone into the development of regional law enforcement databases.
The newest intelligence units are called "fusion centers," which pool information from multiple local jurisdictions. These centers now exist in 31 states, with more on the way. There are plans to eventually have 70 such centers across the nation, providing what US News calls "a coast-to-coast intelligence blanket."
According to the US News article, Jack Tomarchio, the new deputy director of the Department of Homeland Security, told a law enforcement conference in March that the department intends to embed as many as three DHS agents and intelligence analysts at every site, adding that "the states want a very close synergistic relationship with the feds."
The New York Police Department (NYPD) has the largest number of officers assigned to homeland security--one thousand. The NYPD's chief of intelligence is the former director of operations at the CIA and its head of counterterrorism was a counterterrorism coordinator for the State Department. In addition, the NYPD has officers posted in half a dozen other countries.
Lawsuits filed against the NYPD reveal that its undercover officers have joined antiwar rallies, among other protest gatherings, and that they have acted as agents provocateurs in order to provoke arrests at at least one demonstration. Investigations also have been launched against undercover agents elsewhere, including in Fresno, California, where a sheriffs' department officer infiltrated a local peace group.
US News also reported that in order to qualify for federal homeland security grants, local authorities are now required, to report on how many "potential threat elements" or "PTEs" exist in their jurisdictions. "The definition [given by the Department of Homeland Security] of suspected terrorists was fairly loose," the magazine reported. "PTEs were groups or individuals who might use force or violence 'to intimidate or coerce' for a goal 'possibly political or social in nature.'"
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Posted by: che | May 5, 2006 6:14 AM
They are already in the hands of our enemies and have been for decades, so what is your point? Nonproliferation and disarmament are good ideas, but so are lightspeed travel and immortality. The common characteristic shared by all four of those is that they are impossible, Einstein proved lightspeed impossible and immortality is pure fantasy. As for disarmament and nonproliferation, both are impossibilities because nuclear and even conventional arsenals provide too much real, hard power in very easily accessible packages. It is much like inner city youths and the lure of crime. Given the choice between being poor and making 300-400 dollars a week selling drugs, some of these kids will always pick the latter knowing full well the risks involved because the benefits relative to their status quo make it impossible to refuse. The same is true for currently weak nations like Iran and North Korea, who have both begun to pursue nuclear arsenals in order to gain power and prestige and to keep from being further marginalized in the world. Look at it from their perspective, a major ingredient, perhaps even part of the foundation, of US power is its nuclear capability and subsequent stockpile. Everyone in the world listens to what the US says and is effected by what it does or does not do. The US has the ability to provide a decent standard of living for all its people and to maintain that standard of living. We have the power to negotiate trade agreements which greatly benefit us and can distribute our goods all over the world. These other countries look at all this and rightly desire the same thing and ask themselves how they should go about getting it. The easiest way is obviously nuclear weapons because the rest of the world is scared of nuclear weapons and fear is the easiest emotion to influence. So they rationally conclude that the swiftest way to gaininternational prestige and power is to get the one thing that frightens the rest of the world, forcing the international community to deal seriously with them.
Posted by: Archimedes | May 5, 2006 12:17 AM
This subject is one that will probably be debated for a few decades. Until there is a world consensus, yeah right!, to disarm and eliminate nuclear weapons we should keep them and develop new ones that fit the strategic and tactical needs we face. This is NOT an Administration thing. If Kerry was President, God Forbid!, he would be facing these same issues and would have to side with the National Security of this country.
By the way, I live 83 miles northeast of Seattle and the idiot that said that Bush is selling weapons to India and Pakistan is truly embarrassing to me!
Posted by: mmcintosh | May 5, 2006 12:04 AM
So, when the nuclear weapons that we have developed fall into the hands of those who will use them against us, we only have our selves to blame.
The military understands this very basic concept (it's a shame that there are child-like minds out there theat beleive otherwise) and in fact use it in their consideration in development of new weapons. It is also one of the reasons behind nonproliferation.
http://www.state.gov/t/isn/
http://www.fas.org/news/dprk/1990/900607-dprk.htm
What will your argument be when the US is attacked with a nuclear weapon?
This technology is not a subject to be taken lightly. A bomb detonated across the globe impacts every nation, every person and future generations.
What will you say when the nuclear fallout falls into your bowl of corn flakes?
For those who are actually so naive to believe that weapons are a necessary evil and sit back, peering through their television, while living vicariously through others, I say to you: Understand what it is exactly that you are talking about.... or get off the line....
Posted by: Mike T. | May 4, 2006 11:22 PM
Hmm, seems someone still clings to the disarmament fantasy. Sad, quite sad. Nuclear weapons offer far too much power for nations that have them to give them up and for those that don't have them to give up the chance. The late John Galbraith participated in a study right after WWII that showed that the thousands of tons of conventional bombs we dropped on Germany did not have the amount of effect on the German war machine we wanted it to. In fact, the German command did more to hinder the Nazi war effort than our bombs. In Japan, however, we dropped two relatively weak nuclear bombs and the Japanese, who had been prepared to fight to the death, surrendered. This is the power of nuclear weapons versus conventional ones and the exact reason why we will never give them up and why no one else will either.
Posted by: Archimedes | May 4, 2006 9:54 PM
Watching those numbers - the thousands of warheads both countries trying to keep in their possession, my simple question is - in what way let's say 200 nuclear missles would be insufficient for defence or attack capabilities of either state. I don't know much about US nukes, but one old good soviet 'Topol' (I think NATO calles it "Satan")melts groung into the glass within 200 miles radius and makes another 1000 miles radius unavailable for living of human beings for next 100 years. Now, I'm sure US has something very similar, so how many of those things you realistically speaking need to have to feel protected and sleep tight?
Posted by: russian | May 4, 2006 7:57 PM
All of these new "boutique" warheads the Pentagon is so keen on have one thing in common - they're designed to be more usable in terms of POLITICAL fallout. Even if used against non-nuclear states.
This is a deliberate and concerted effort to lower the threshhold for first use. And much of the original impetus came not from the Bush Administration (though they signed up very willingly), but from the weaponeers themselves.
"Self-deterrence" is the buzzword in nuclear thinktanks - the idea that Cold War multimegaton citykillers are politically too unusable, so therefore America needs nukes it can concievably get away with using.
This idea came originally not from the Govt or even the Pentagon, but was first mentioned in a paper written by scientists from Livermore and Sandia, the great weapons labs.
Stockpile maintenance and the slow winding down of the arsenal has been a major drag for them. With no new warheads to develop, they have trouble recruiting and keeping the brightest young physicists.
As with most of the pressing military needs identified by the "defense community", these new weapons' primary purpose is not to defend America but to defend somebody's cosy job.
Posted by: OD | May 4, 2006 7:12 PM
I thought Bush was selling them to India and Pakistan, so they could sell them to other terrorist nations?
Posted by: Will in Seattle | May 4, 2006 12:15 PM
I have my opnion regarding dismentalling nuc stock pile
every country must follow IAEA guideline must open civil and military nuc establishment honestly for inspection
none country must put effort to develop weapons any more as it is bad effort to mankind in world and is not peaceful
scientist engineer
atomic energy dept
salt lake calcutta india 700064
Posted by: pramod deshpande | May 4, 2006 10:25 AM
mr. arkin, you simply don't understand! we need every last one of those warheads. every last one of those 10,000 and if there's a god, we'll start baking more!! it's a big planet, after all.
as a former sub sailor, i can tell you we used to carry around either the subrocs to discourage those pesky other submarines or the tall ones which were designed to ruin landlubberski's day. counting silos and actual mushroom makers in each - remember we're talking MIRVs here - we estimated we'd have enough on our boat alone to pretty much destroy the godless commie command and control, lot's of military stuff, and have a few left over to target some nursing homes and elementary schools.
so i ask you, sir... when the crews are setting 1SQ and spinning up the missles, what do you propose we drop from the targeting list? washington will expect the pure military spots but the steely eyed killers of the deep will sort of want to still hit the softer spots. rest assured,however, that alll the foreign walmarts, macdonalds, and starbucks will NOT be touched.
Posted by: shabby | May 4, 2006 10:14 AM
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