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Archimedes says:

"What better way to keep the ME unstable than to weaken it economically by depriving it of its one source of prosperity? "

But of course that's how the ME is in such a mess - the West has worked so hard to make it poverty stricken so that we can easily extract its assets.

Which is why all the chaos and hatred now.

He says:
"Trust always in Reason"

How ironic, when what he is really saying is - Trust always in hurting others for your own (temporary) gain.

CIVIC VIRTUE for the 21st Century

An energy crisis, the theat of pandemics,
mountians of debt, the treat of terrorism
and coroprate globalization should tell us that the USA cannot afford $100B to win in Iraq, Iran and Syria.

Domestically; energy independence, telecommuting, distance learnng, closing the ditigal divide and preparing homes, places of worship, school, and small businesses to work with the silos of the Red Cross, Salvation Army, United Way, First Responders, FEMA and the National Guard using unlicended spectrum with open source software, open architecture hardware, open search engine and a common set of cyber-secuirty tools. This means self-configuring nodes that are self-healing, self-defending and self-backed-up.

Profits thorugh firing, debt prosperity taxes, racial and religous bigotry and media cartel immorality are destroying the middle class in the USA.

Can the POST Editors sit down and see where the war in Iraq and the war against globalization require the USA to improve what exists as a throw-away society caused by a consumer religion enforced by an entertainment ethic where cheap sex and violance sell. This inculdes corporate lock-in and lock out. It also includes lock down by a surviellance state caused by the war against terrorism.

And the reform of immigation as a catalyst that can bring civic unrest leading to a domestic terrorism civil war in the USA between the "haves" and "have nots."

I suggest and recommend to the editorial staff of the POST that they get a small book: "The Agrarian (moral populist) Crusade by Solon Buck (a historian). It deals with the concentration of wealth (corporate greed) and power (corrupted goverment). Yes, from the industrial robber barons. Now we have the electronic highway robber barons as global media cartels: buy, bank, learn, earn, information and entertaiment. Their goal is to by-pass community and go directly into the home with content that is multi-media, multi-cultural and cross-cultural.

If the POST Editors would look at Asia and Europe as being ahead in the area of home,
neighborhood, and municipal wireless, broadband, peer to peer, Wi-MAX mesh intranets connected to the Internet. This allows for growth with bare bones from the bottom-up.

Who has the Presidential, Governor, County Manager and City Mayor timber to see the need for bare bones, bottom-up from a HAM opeator mentality to make the USA strong from the bottom-up?

The goal: preparing to overcome in a manmade, technological, natural or economic disaster. This can mean every familty in the USA must be humble and bear the sacrifice, not just those famlies with a loved-one in the military in an active war. Yes, by the citizens of the largest debtor-nation (USA).

It means taking consumer electronics products sold as entertainment toys and truning them into learning, earning, caring and sharing productivity tools.

Example: dad with a dual core notebook
mom with a mobile videocam
daughter with a digital camera
son with a mico server

All devices with an open OS. Notebook with Open Office. Digial videocam with USB stick(s). Digial camera the same. Micro serve the same. Firefox browser, Thunderbird e-mail, Apache blog or Web server, VGA cyber-secuirty tools. A search engine without advertizing.

All of these as a node in a mesh intranet that can lead to the Internet.

dad: earn mutual benefits
mom: learn distance learning
daughter: caring hands-up
son: sharing responsibility
thorugh text, data, graphics,
images, audio and video as created excellence that is supported and rewarded, locally.

Standardization using GB, secure USB memory sticks and a USB port on every deivce given above. Even if the sticks have to be used hand-to-hand in an emergency.

Remember telecommuting, distance learning, closing the digital divide, hands-up and shared responsibility.

Asia and Europe are ahead of the USA in terms of wireless that is less to install, operate, maintain and repair as compared to copper, coax, fiber and satellite.

So, doing more with less; that is smaller, faster and cheaper with greater capacity; from wider and deeper resources resulting in fewer, but better choices that are durable and stable.

Does this read like a MacGuffey's reader for the 21st Century? Yes, a reader with religous sensibilities instead of sex, drugs and violence that are used to sell.
Yes, a couner-culture to the "new anger" in the USA from the young and seniors.

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Its very hard to accept the possibility that all you believed in and pinned your hopes on for so many years is false. This fact is true (that its very hard) concerning our Iraq war, advertising inflated consumerism, global warming-not, organized religion, or any belief system that ignores consensus science.

The Depublicans (Democratic-Republican Congress)...

Are going to have to have to make up their minds as to what they are going to do with regard to the war in Iraq, and President Bush. They made a lot of promises during the campaign in November; however, so far it would appear that the Democratic Congress will simply end up being 'a paper tiger', Congress, like the 'do nothing Congress' that preceded them.

The new Congress roared loudly when trying to unseat the Republicans, but now, except for a few exceptions, they appear to be retreating into mediocrity and therefore obsolesce. I am an Independent who joined in and voted for the Democrats in hopes of ending the murderous fiasco in Iraq. I knew when I voted for them there was only a 50/50 that they would do anything more than demagogue.

It would appear, of late, that my feelings are about to be confirmed, I am not sure that they are going to be any more effective than the Republicans were, over the past 4-years.

Okay, I will give them a little while longer. However, by 2008, it would appear that Americans, those who care about civility and human life, need to construct a whole new Party.

Here's an idea De-publicans, even Newt Gingrich confessed a few weeks ago that (IQ of 185) Bill Clinton was the most astute politician in this country. Why not have Bill Clinton come in a consult with you and tell you what you should be doing.

The Republican solution for every problem is two-pronged, you cut taxes or kill somebody, and then the problem will be solved. The De-publicans on the other hand seem to believe that you talk about the problem, but never take the initiative to do anything about the problem.

To the latter I would say, 'no guts no glory'! And if things are to remain the same, let's hope that Mr. Bush will finally grow into his job and become a true statesman.

P.S. Given the politics of the past, too many times our representatives in Washington stick to and vote with their voting blocks. Congressman Augustus Hawkins, reminded me of that on the floor of Congress in 1983. He explained to me at the time that change would have to be forced on the Congress, and that it would have to take place back at the 'grass roots' level.

Wouldn't it be refreshing and serve the country better, if men and women in defererence to the pressure from the majority leader or the whip et al, would simply stand up and vote for what they believed to be right and that would be satisfactory to the people whom they represent?

How many Representatives are coming out of the closet now and sharing with the American public that they never really believed in the war in the first place, but they were under pressure to go along and support the vote to support the prosecution of the war in Iraq. People like that should be removed from serving by those who voted them into office.

Shucks, even Bush is at least standing up for what he believes in. Well, I think so!

Why does not someone investigate and clear the air on how John McKernon the husband of Olympia Snowe gained almost $250,000 offf a meager investment in some educational book company. Is this payback for job well done supporting liar Bush without hardly any oversight. The Portland Press Herald ran a brief story about it eons ago and never heard another word. You bet I am concerned and YOU can bet that Olympia is spike on the screen.

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Washington think tank bars WSWS reporter
An incident that says much about the US capital

By Barry Grey in Washington DC
9 January 2007

In covering Washington DC, it does not take long to get a sense of the political atmosphere that pervades the nation's capital. It is a place where corporate interests and their legions of lobbyists wine, dine and bribe politicians of both parties. It is a place where corporate- and government-funded think tanks work out imperialist policies affecting the lives of countless millions of people at home and abroad, entirely outside the control and behind the backs of the American people.

An incident occurred Monday that provided a telling example of the real relationships and forces at work in Washington.

This reporter was barred from attending a public event at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a national security think tank that has close ties to the government and lists among its officers some of the most prominent names in the American foreign policy establishment.

The event, entitled "The Way Forward in Iraq," was advertised on the web site of the CSIS and posted on its events page, which states that all of the listed events "are open to the public." It was broadcast live on the CSPAN cable TV network.

This is but one of many official and semi-official events currently being held in the capital as part of the effort to fashion a bipartisan consensus, in complete disregard for the popular anti-war sentiment expressed in the November elections, on the basis of which the catastrophic US occupation of Iraq is to be continued and intensified.

The World Socialist Web Site registered to cover the CSIS forum as part of its reporting from Washington on the newly installed 110th Congress and the development of US policy in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East as a whole.

The panel for the event consisted of four members of the Armed Services Committee of the US House of Representatives: the new chairman of the committee, Rep. Ike Skelton (Democrat from Montana); Rep. Jim Marshall (Democrat from Georgia); Representative Jim Saxton (Republican from New Jersey) and Rep. Mac Thornberry (Republican from Texas).

The evening prior to the event, I sent an email to the Office of External Relations, the press office of the CSIS, to register as a member of the press, in accordance with the instructions given on the CSIS web site. Early Monday morning, I telephoned the office to confirm my registration and was told I had been included on the list of press members registered to cover the panel discussion.

However, when I went to the press table 30 minutes before the scheduled start of the event, I was told by H. Andrew Schwartz, deputy director for external relations of the CSIS, that I was not on the list and that I could not attend as a member of the press. When I explained that I had registered and received confirmation that morning, Mr. Schwartz flatly denied that this had occurred.

I asked whether I could cover the event regardless, and he said I could not because the policy of the CSIS was to admit only those members of the press with "federalized credentials." He claimed that this policy is stated on the organization's web site. (I could find no such statement when I subsequently checked the CSIS web site.) When I protested at this arbitrary attempt to exclude me, Schwartz added that the press registration was "overbooked" and there was no room.

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I then asked if I could attend as a member of the public, since the

All this tired talk about what our presence in Iraq does or doesn't do seems a bit obsolete, doesn't it? I mean, what does it matter if we ARE giving Islamic radicals an excuse to mobilize, so long as they are blowing themselves up in Iraq? The whole point is to keep America safe, not the whole world, and so long as we are free from terrorist attacks, who cares where else they are blowing themselves up. Arkin is right that they can't realistically destroy any strong countries, especially strong democracies. In my view the more they focus on petty power battles in Iraq, the better, since it prevents them from turning their full attention on the US. I see an unstable ME as being a strategic asset for the US, since it prevents the countries there from becoming powerful and posing a challenge to the US and our allies. Just look at Africa and, until recently, Latin America. Both regions have been embroiled in internal strife and violence for decades and thus have been unable to establish any economic or military instituions that would compete with America. The tremendous oil wealth that exists in the ME makes countries like Iran quite dangerous, as they can (and do) use that wealth to build themselves up and become a threat to the US. Furthermore, a violently unstable ME is also a bane to China, who needs to secure oil contracts with currently under-exploited countries, many of whom are in the ME or "Islamic" world. The more unstable these places become, the more difficult and ultimately expensive it will become to extract their oil, thus slowing China's as well as the region's miltary and economic development.

What is now imperative for the US is to ensure that the regional violence stays regional, as it has in Africa and Latin America. Closer ties with Russia and India would serve this purpose greatly, as Russia is seeking ever greater markets for its growing petroleum industry. What better way to keep the ME unstable than to weaken it economically by depriving it of its one source of prosperity? By exploiting India's rapidly growing technology and entrepenuerial sectors, we would be further damaging China by taking away the foreign capital it needs to modernize its economy and military. We must act quickly if we are to succeed in securing America's interests. If their is one thing that seems to be lacking in American foreign policy it is any type of long-term, strategic goals. Strengthening economic ties with India and Russia, while continuing to let the ME destabilize will provide a good first step in securing this country for decades to come.

Trust always in Reason

Archimedes

Guido, Ever hear of "The Best and the Brightest". Those are the guys who brought us defeat in Vietnam. I have never been impressed by smart guys who have not seen the world from any view except a rigid ass-kissing chain of command. They just fail in more spectacular fashion. The real problem is Fallon, like many american patriots in the military just take orders from the AIPAC dominated politicians.They disgrace the flag they fight under and the constition the are sworn to uphold. The entire project is preventive war and illegal under international law as the nazis found at the Nuremberg Trials.
Those Carrier Strike Forces are sitting ducks in the Persian Gulf. What would any
commander be doing putting them down range from all those Iranian Silkworms and Sunburn cruise missles? Is it positioning for winning or is it positioning for retreat? I think William Arkin is right, the US military men's heart is not in this brutal and disgraceful war. These proud and competent men are not fighting to defend our great nation, but Israel. They are being betrayed by the corrupt elites in the civilian sector. The Democratic congressman Rahm Immanuel who served in the IDF funnels Zionist money to secure the support of Congress for this war spelled out in the paper "Cleanbreak", written for B. Netanyahu. This is the man who speaking before the Congress soon after 9-11 said, "We are all Israels now." ARE WE? The American officer corp knows what is going on. They read Clauswitz. The first question you must ask and have an answer is, "What are we fighting for?" The commanders know the truth and can't speak out of respect for the code of honor in their profession and the tradition of having civilian leadership. The American media must take up the question behind this war, if they care about the heart of our military men and women.

Guido, Ever hear of "The Best and the Brightest". Those are the guys who brought us defeat in Vietnam. I have never been impressed by smart guys who have not seen the world from any view except a rigid ass-kissing chain of command. They just fail in more spectacular fashion. The real problem is Fallon, like many american patriots in the military just take orders from the AIPAC dominated politicians.They disgrace the flag they fight under and the constitution they are sworn to uphold. The entire project is preventive war and illegal under international law as the nazis found at the Nuremberg Trials.
Those Carrier Strike Forces are sitting ducks in the Persian Gulf. What would any
commander be doing putting them down range from all those Iranian Silkworms and Sunburn cruise missles? Is it positioning for winning or is it positioning for retreat? I think William Arkin is right, the US military men's heart is not in this brutal and disgraceful war. These proud and competent men are not fighting to defend our great nation, but Israel. They are being betrayed by the corrupt elites in the civilian sector. The Democratic congressman Rahm Immanuel who served in the IDF funnels Zionist money to secure the support of Congress for this war spelled is typical of the problem.The stategy for this conflict is laid out in the paper "Cleanbreak", written for B. Netanyahu. This is the man who speaking before the Congress soon after 9-11 said, "We are all Israelis now." ARE WE? The American officer corp knows what is going on. They read Clauswitz. The first question you must ask and have an answer is, "What are we fighting for?" The commanders know the truth and can't speak out of respect for the code of honor in their profession and the tradition of having civilian leadership. The American media must take up the question and deceit behind this war, if they care about the heart of our military men and women.

32 years ago I was an Ensign and Adm Fallon was a LCDR in the A6 RAG, the training squadron, at NAS Whidbey Island. It was accepted then that ADM Fallon was the smartest guy in the place; nobody argued that, and the place had lots of smart people there. I would not under estimate him, and also, not mentioned much was his assignment in theater after his Carrier Group tour. Check the navy.mil website for his bio. This is his third or fourth assignment as a 4-star. He may still be the smartest guy in the place.

Since so many who have credentials and history have said that the solution in Iraq is not military but political, what difference does it make how much shuffling of the military takes place?

It seems to me that Bush etal are conducting a dog and pony show for the sole purpose of placating the masses until the Iraq tragedy becomes the problem of the next administration. Given the history of this president, it would be hard to argue otherwise.

The Haaretz Arrow article comments have some insight as well. Do you think the Carrier Strike Force Eisenhower is in the Persian Gulf as a sacrificial target for Iran's Sunburn and Silkworm cruise missles which control the Persian Gulf? A strike on Iran would certainly risk the sailors lives. Sinking of a major US carrier might be the Pearl Harbor the powers that be need to expand this war in the Mid East. I never thought it made sense to invade Iraq unless the PTB intended to attack Iran as well unless there is an agenda I don't understand. The Straits of Hormuz are a choke point for a large fraction of the world's oil supply. Cruise missles rule the Straits of Hormuz unless the USA or Israel are planning to use nukes to keep it open. I sure wouldn't be short oil or gold for the next year or so. It seems AIPAC and its operators in the US Congress,Republican and Democrat are backing an escalation that can only result in a more ignominious defeat of the USA. We are in the lands of Islam and they will never submit to foreign rule. Read Stan Goff-Full Spectrum Disorder to get an ex-special forces guys view of the morphing problems of offensive war when the natives are not afraid to die, have modern and evolving military tactics and the long view. I guess we will have to reconsider the military effectiveness of Iraqi insugents.

Look at the Israeli newspaper Haaretz today. It has some good stuff on the Arrow Missile Defense Systam, and other information in their opinion section.

The appointment of a navel air jockey to head the war efffort on behalf of the Zionist project in the Mid East indicates
the action is moving on to Iran. Petraeus
job will be to assault the Mahdi Army and the Badr Brigades preventing or blunting their capability to attack US forces in Iraq when the US bombs Iran with the goal of regime change and the fragmentation of all political entities capable of resisting Zionist subjugation of the Mid East. Do the Iraqi insurgents have the anti-tank missiles to neutralize US armour? The Lebanonese militias certainly did and destroyed dozens of IDF Merkava tanks leaving the boots on the ground exposed to sniper teams and IEDS. ITS TIME FOR THE USA TO RETREAT. LEAVE ISRAEL TO ITS FATE AND BUY OIL LIKE AN HONEST NATION.

The appointment of a navel air jockey to head the war efffort on behalf of the Zionist project in the Mid East indicates
the action is moving on to Iran. Petraeus
job will be to assault the Mahdi Army and the Badr Brigades preventing or blunting their capability to attack US forces in Iraq when the US bombs Iran with the goal of regime change and the fragmentation of all political entities capable of resisting Zionist subjugation of the Mid East. Do the Iraqi insurgents have the anti-tank missiles to neutralize US armour? The Lebanonese militias certainly did and destroyed dozens of IDF Merkava tanks leaving the boots on the ground exposed to sniper teams and IEDS. ITS TIME FOR THE USA TO RETREAT. LEAVE ISRAEL TO ITS FATE AND BUY OIL LIKE AN HONEST NATION.

If you look at the backgound for Lieberman, McCain, and Keane's recent news spots on CNN, you will see the initials AEI, which stands for the American Enterprise Institute. This is what passes as a "Think Tank" for American Neoconservatives. If you want to see the whole program, it is probably on C-Span. The Neoconservatives are the ones that gave you the Iraq War. They are also closely associated with the Likud party in Israel. Lieberman is also on the board of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic studies at Bar Ilan University, Israel, which is associated with the Likud.
I think Lieberman supported the war because of a preceived threat Saddam Hussein posed to Israel. While not a Neoconservative, he could be described as a fellow traveler because of the Israeli connection.
Lieberman won the last election because the Republicans abandon their candiate to support him, because he is seen as a firm supporter of Israel, and the supporters he acquired through years of public service.
McCain is a throttle jockey with a hair trigger, who needs their financial support and considerable clout to become the Republican Candidate for President. He is also courting the religious right for their vote.
They probably think the war is necessary for various reasons, but God help Israel with supporters like them.

I am all for the commander on the ground making the military decisions based on his intimate knowledge of facts on the ground. If he could also get his logistics out of the cluthes of the mulinational corporations, I would say he is good to go on the battlefield. It would probably give him several more divisions with the money wasted on privatization. I managed to survive KP, and I am sure the modern soldier would survive too.
However, we are dealing with international politics too, and force alone won't solve the problem. We are dealing with a region where Western colonialism is a recent memory. We are Christian Westerners in an Islamic region. There is an assumption of superior knowledge, that we are giving to an ancient civilization. This is laughable coming from the Bush Administration. Eighty Percent of Iraqi want us out of there, because, among other reasons, we draw fire from the various insurgents or militias. Our presence in Iraq recruits foreign terrorists and provides on the job training for them. Al-Qaida didn't operate in Iraq before the invasion! We are providing recruits for terrorists organizations by remaining in Iraq. Recruiting more terrorists does not make anybody safer in America, Great Britain, or Spain. We have to leave and rebuild our forces. Rebuild them on a massive scale, with the draft, so that we not only have the firepower, but, also, the Boots on the ground to deal with any situation.
We stll have Afghanistan to deal with because of 9/11, al-Qaida, and the Taliban that supported this organization. There is not and has never been a "Peace Dividend". You always have to be prepared!

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Observations on the opening of the 110th US Congress

By Barry Grey in Washington DC

In the citadel of privilege and power that is Washington, DC, the transfer of congressional control from the Republicans to the Democrats, notwithstanding the gaudy ceremonies and talk of "historic moments," changes nothing essential.

This particular turnover, even by the political standards of the American two-party system, will alter less than many previous transfers of power.

In some ways, the core reality of American political life was evoked in a description of last Thursday's swearing-in rites for the new Senate by journalist Geoff Elliott, writing in the January 5 edition of the Australian,

"At 11:45 am, Vice-President Dick Cheney's motorcade sweeps up Constitutional Avenue in Washington, DC from the White House to Capitol Hill. Cheney's armoured limousine is preceded by an escort of police motorbikes with sidecars and is nestled among black sports utility vehicles in which men in black menacingly poke their semi-automatic weapons out the windows. Cheney is heading to the Senate to preside over his ceremonial role in the chamber as president. At midday he is to start swearing in the new Democrat-controlled Senate."

The Capitol complex itself is ringed by police-military checkpoints, and police dressed in various uniforms, some wielding large automatic weapons, are everywhere. The domed structure is surrounded by what appear to be fortified barriers, on the other side of which one can see large cranes and tracts of dug-up earth. One can only imagine what type of fortifications are being built there.

It is not exactly Baghdad's Green Zone, but it is a far cry from a symbol of democracy and open government.

The physical barriers enhance the impression that in and around

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The Rev wrote:
---But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Parties?---

I was just thinking about Liberman and what his reelection meant. Lieberman is behind Bush 100% for the Iraq war, which most people are against, yet he won the election as an independent comfortably. What does that say about the American people who overwhelmingly were against his policies in Iraq? It says that people in this country do not think globally but do act locally. Lieberman's reelection was due to his ability to keep the people at home happy. This is a bad way to think when our soldiers are dying overseas. Lieberman's reelection was due to an unthinking electorate.

As for McCain, the same applies. If you read up on what this man has proposed you'd think GWB was a democrat, but we only hear a few things McCain proposes on the news because they contradict the republicans and are therefore newsworthy. You may want to read this:
http://transatlanticassembly.blogspot.com/2006/08/john-mccain-george-bush-iraq-and.html

As for not walking lock-step with their parties, its only due to their established positions and re-electability that they can prevent themselves from being pushed around by their respective parties. I would venture that most politicians are just as independent thinking, just less able to act independently due to party pressure. Maybe that should be a subject of discussion (on another blog) and how it obstructs democracy when a few congrsssman and senators can unduly influence the rest of their collegues, Tom Delay being a classic example.

Posted by: The Rev,

"Philosophically speaking: But will Patraeus also betray us?

I believe that the [De-publicans}, the majority of the Democratic Congressmen are going to go back on its word; they are not going to end this fiasco either!

But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Parties?"

The Democrats are going to let Bush and any Republican that supports him polically hang themselves over the next two years. While stating they are doing all they can do to get out of Iraq. Bush and the Republicans beat the dems over the head with Iraq and War on Terror for 5 years, now it's pay back time with the same club. Just wait till the investigative hearings start.

I glad Kerry lost in 04, he would have been blamed for Iraq.

Mr. Arkin,

You have a good analysis, but are you over analyzing the Military leadership and underestimating the civilian leadership? The Commander and Chief play's a far greater role in Iraq Military policy and strategy than you admit. Bush's role in Iraq is dominated by many facts, although irrelevant to the real Iraq military/political situation. The man has banked his presidency on Iraq and if it fails, he will be a failure in history and every move he makes to save his place in history is the wrong move to solve the Iraq problem.

Philosophically speaking: But will Patraeus also betray us?

I believe that the [De-publicans}, the majority of the Democratic Congressmen are going to go back on its word; they are not going to end this fiasco either!

But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Parties?

Philosophically speaking: But will Patraeus also betray us?

I believe that the [De-publicans}, the majority of the Democratic Congressmen are going to go back on its word; they are not going to end this fiasco either!

But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Parties?

Philosophically speaking: But will Patraeus also betray us?

I believe that the [De-publicans}, the majority of the Democratic Congressmen are going to go back on its word; they are not going to end this fiasco either!

But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Party?

Philosophically speaking: But will Patraeus also betray us?

I believe that the [De-publicans}, the majority of the Democratic Congressmen are going to go back on its word; they are not going to end this fiasco either!

But ironically, I am starting to like politicians again like McCain and Liberman. I don't agree with their positions, but isn't it refreshing for a change to experience politicians who will simply stand up for what they believe instead of walking in lock-step with their Party?

If ADM Fallon is the best we've got then we're likely in trouble. Anyone in the know understands fully the real leaders in the Pacific on China, Korea and Japan issues the past few years have been ADM Roughead at PACFLT, Gen Hester, USAF, at PACAF and Generals Schwartz and now Bell, US Army, COMUSFK. Fallon is another Franks intellectually. Enough said.