Is it Chernoff or Chertoff?

Is it Chernoff or Chertoff?

"People love to complain about the Patriot Act and others like it because it changed how we invesigate and punish crimals who wish mass murder upon us. Give me one example how "our rights" have been seriously set back and how this would effect the everyday American?"

Well, for one, it gives the federal government the right to rifle through your personal records (bank, phone, internet, credit card, etc.) upon a whim. The businesses that they are searching are bound by law not to alert you or anyone else to the search, meaning they could be secretly writing a multi-volume book about you (a US citizen) and you'd never know it and never be able to protest the wrongful invasion of your privacy. They do NOT have to prove you are part of any domestic terrorism and only have to "certify to a federal judge" that they should be allowed to search you. The judge does not have the power to reject the application, so they can search the records of anyone and everyone they want. Erosion of our personal rights given to us by the first 10 amendments of the US Constitution is horrible, no matter how you look at it.

All of this surveillance could be accomplished using our pre-Patriot Act laws, but there is more oversight and it puts the cookie jar a little farther away from the fat, lazy, greedy kid's hands. They just don't want to work and do the paperwork to get the info they need, so they instead spy on us in a wholesale fashion until they turn something up. I'm sure they've done this for years prior to 9/11 (the recent publishing of the CIA "family jewels" suggests it). However, making it so easy to do (and supposedly "legal" in spite of the constitutional contradictions) sets a dangerous precedent. It puts us 1 step closer to "Big Brother" looking over your shoulder at all times.

I have nothing to hide, but I love America, and America is founded upon our rights and freedoms. I don't mean to offend anyone, but I can't let something like the quote above (that makes the Patriot Act and illegal warrantless wiretapping orders sound like they're good for us) pass unanswered. Giving up any of our rights granted to us by God, generations of soldiers who have died to keep the flag waving, and our founding forefathers for ANY reason and under any guise (protection/security, in this case) is a travesty and an erosion of the very foundation of our nation.

I think Ben Franklin said it best: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

We CAN prevent terrorism in the US and can obtain intel on terrorists operating here without trampling the legitimate rights of the citizenry. We just don't seem to want to put that much effort into it.

I had a gut feeling once..... that Chertoff was a creepy horses butt....trust your gut feelings from time to time...

What I hear from all corners of the current WH and staff is FEAR. But believe them agin and it will be alright.
It worked once, but not a this time. All of you can Gas on all you want about robocops, hairless wonders, etc. It just doesn't matter, cause Rove has stacked the deck. Something Nixon didn't have going for him.

I am not going to keep tring to convince you. Maybe when this is you or a family member done wrong, possibly killed by some affirmative action project and you cant get justice because of Laws that Taco Boy set up you will see things differently.

Good Luck in LaLa land.

Once again, I am not even sure you have a grasp on reality. I don't really see how any laws have changed to harm the innocent since 9-11. I think the laws enacted by this president fill the gaps of our broken pre 9-11 world. People love to complain about the Patriot Act and others like it because it changed how we invesigate and punish crimals who wish mass murder upon us. Give me one example how "our rights" have been seriously set back and how this would effect the everyday American? Every single person I ask this question to has no answer and instead reverts back to copying and pasting rhetoric from a far left blog.

There will always be good and bad cops, and these days you can't really blame police for taking more drastic measures. Imagine you are police officer walking up to a vehicle of seemingly lawful citizens. Do you put your guard down? OR do you unsnap your leather and be prepared for anything? Officers have to make decisions like these on a daily basis, and in some cases these types of situations save or take lives. If you can't even imagine having this responsibility, then you should never apply for a job in law enforcement.

Comment To: SSPHX

Let me tell you something.
Don't try that Repuke BrainWash crap with me.
I am not anti-USA. I am anti- LIARS telling us one thing and doing another.
Acting like they care about our freedoms while Taco Boy and The Worlds #1 Idiot strips away every right we have.
I could care less if they make us untouchable and stealth if every freedom we are supposed to have is gone. I know what their attempting to do. They are trying to create a Police State so they can deal with Gangs and other problems. The sad part is this. The Idiots that are supposed to serve and protect don't know the difference in a Working Person and a Person with Gang Signs all over them, so they will blow a working persons head off and claim they thought they were a Gang Member. Maybe in your line of work , you never have to deal with those untrained individuals, but for the ones that are the backbone of this country, we do have to dodge those people that are just looking for a reason to blow someones brains out because they had a freakin banana in their hand (according to the Mafia Police) it was a weapon and thanks to Taco Boy and the Rest of the IDIOTS it holds up in court.
Before you try that anti-garbage line on me, look into the laws the (NOT)supreme court have twisted around.
Thanks to Bush and Taco Boy!!!!! .

btw...owned by NO ONE

I agree Rev.

Common Sense

It shouldn't take Mr. Chertoff's gut-level feelings to get Americans exercised, one way or the other.

Common sense should tell us that the dye has been cast, and for the forseeable future, Americans will live in constant fear of being attacked internally (sooner or later) by its enemies, enemies of its own making it would appear!

Response: Democracy Is Gone

No surprise in your typical response. I like it how you resorted to naming those who you disagree with,

"Your just another Communist(Both Partys) Owned, Brain Washed(SSPHX), Taco Boy(Gonzales)and Idiot(Bush) Follower."

I can read these types of posts in every single left wing blog out there. So what you really accomplished was repeating other anti-USA rhetoric.

I can tell you right now that I do not agree with what Bush has done in Iraq. However, leaving now would make our enemies stronger and thus we must remain. Iran is preparing for what it considers the 2nd coming of their prophet.

I urge you to understand the true threat by reading this:
Examples of verses from the Quran which have been quoted to justify attacks on civilians include:

"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." 2:216

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;" 5:33

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." 9:5

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!" 9:29-30

*referenced from Wikipedia with sources listed.

As you can see, this is not about oil, or land, it's about the fundamental differences in our cultures and how they view "our" religion. This was inevitable, and will play out exactly as it was planned.

Comment To: SSPHX

Your statement:
Blogs are like getting your information from a bathroom stall, would you really trust that?
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I dont read the bathroom walls, better things to do with my time, like dropping out another COMMUNIST LIAR.
However,I would actually trust that more than I would from the Likes of YOU,TACO BOY,JERKOFF,THE WORLDS #1 IDIOT,and all other (Repukes-COMMUNIST LIARS-Democrats).

btw...owned by NO ONE

BTW,
In the Days ahead you are going to see more and more spineless Repukes jump ship on the war in Iraq.
You are going to see Democrats acting like they really want to bring these CORRUPT IDIOTS before Congress.
Please , remember how they have totally not listened to the American People for almost 8 years.
They will start running like the spineless cowards they are at this time so that they can BrainWash you into electing them another 4 years.
Don't buy it.
Vote them, All Repukes, and All Democrats out of office.
Show these LIARS and COMMUNIST we have had ENOUGH of their LIES.

oh..btw...owned by NO ONE

Comment To : SSPHX

You wish you owned anything besides the 12X60 MobileHome you are living in.
It seems the truth I speak hit a nerve and you post to try to Brain Wash people into continued following of these LIARS and COMMUNIST.
Your just another Communist(Both Partys) Owned, Brain Washed(SSPHX), Taco Boy(Gonzales)and Idiot(Bush) Follower.
Speaking of owned, You don't even own your God Given right of thinking with your brain ,must less anything else.
Go wash the outside of that tin box you live in.

Comment to: Democracy is Gone

The only thing "gone" in this country is a back bone because of pansies like you. Is this what my grand father fought to protect. A society that is more concerned about what others think of us then our own safety?

I don't live any different then I did before 9-11, so this idea that "democracy is gone" is ridiculous at best. I think this is just another case of a extreme left nut job thinking a blog is going to bring fame. News flash... most bloggers have no clue what they are talking about and simply ctrl+c, ctrl+v everything they see. Blogs are like getting your information from a bathroom stall, would you really trust that?

Thats all... oh, and you are owned.

"What Mr. Chertoff views as 'a race' with the terrorists in my opinion is a non-sequitur - we don't want to live like that. We don't want to be in a race with terrorists, the average American citizen I suspect (in his own way) wants to see a resolution to the problem."

Guess what people... the terrorists really don't care how you feel or what you want. Man, you really sound like a little child, "I don't want this Mommy, I can't handle pressure!"

Maybe Americans are too weak now to confront the issue of terrorism and a fanatical religion. We have become so self obsorbed and impatient that we would rather "deal" with terrorists attacks in this country rather than waiting 2 hours more in a air port security line... How sad. People like you "Rev" need to take your head out of the sand and realize that soon terrorists will have access to nuclear arms and if you think 9-11 was something.. look out. I guess thats really what we need though, ANOTHER reminder of the enemy and their ultimate goal.

Make no mistake, the struggle will be the West against the middle-east in a "no holds barred" World War. It's too bad that some of the brightest in this country tend to look the other way and instead try to push their agenda of world "peace" to a world that doesn't want it.

You also have to be carefull, because these LIARS will stop at Nothing.
They will just have another COMMUNIST LIAR Party Member run in the next election as an Independent or some other Party.
Someone needs to Get the Real facts on the New Party Member. I have nothing to offer as I am not putting any name in the hat.
All I am saying , anyone in either Party of the Current Liars Club, names come out of the hat.From the IDIOT at the Top, to Taco Boy all the way down.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!
Next Election, Vote with you minds and not follow the Brain Washing crap of the Past.

Well,
Democracy is gone. All of you should be on the watch for cops that will be aiming at your head with plans to blow your brains out. Anytime you have as much corruption as we have seen from this Mafia Form of Government, and no one steps in to stop these IDIOTS, Democracy is nothing but a word.When you have Taco Boy trampling on every right that we had as American Citizens and no one steps in to stop him, Democracy is gone. All in Politics,
Democrats as well as Repukes are involved in this. Let me put it like this, If someone that I knew were wronging one of your family members. You came to me and told me to correct the problem. If I said I care and I will put a stop to it and then did nothing, you would soon get the idea that I dont really care, I am just a Liar that talks but does nothing when it comes to action. With all in office today, They are all just a bunch of Liars that play out this Clown Show with billions of dollars flowing towards them. Its time for a new Party. Will it change anything? I can't say yes, because it is unknown. But I won't say no, because it is unknown.All I can say is that Both Partys in the WhiteHouse are doing nothing but Lieing to us and nothing ever changes for the American People, except we have a Taco Boy striping away at our Constitution, while both Partys let it happen. Its time for a new Party. Stop supporting Obama, Clinton, McCain and anyone else that runs under the Name of Democrat or Republican.I am sick of these Liars that play with all of our minds and do nothing except strip away our rights.
Its time for a Change and Now,...Don't allow these people another Four Years to Brain Wash and Strip Away our Rights.
Please,
Correct errors in this post, save it, and every place you can post this message.Lets show these Liars we have had enough.
Time For a Change.
Thank You

All of you young,loud mouthed "patriots" who didn't enlist, you old chest beating veterans who thought the republicans had your back, everyone who thought Bush was "tougher" than Wes Clark, Al Gore or John Kerry...now you have Michael Chertoff, yes whose name appropriately resembles "jerk-off" because that is all he has done since appointed. You idiot republicans are great at shouting down, insulting and ridiculing those who are qualified, honest and honorable; the today's state of the nation and our position in the world is what you have to show for it. Nothing. Negative. We are in more danger now of a terrorist attack than ever before because the people you put in charge to be entrusted with this situation did nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I truly believe that anyone who votes republican for anything in the next fifty to one hundred years should at least have their head examined.

Michael Chertoff is a strong, hard man in a tight place; he's got our backs. He can inspect *my* package anytime.

Michael Chertoff is a strong, hard man in a tight place; he's got our backs. He can inspect *my* package anytime.

Chertoff rymes with Jerk-off and also rymes with rip-off.

Pointman in Seoul, Korea

Chertoff is only tryng to justify his position as a bureaucrat. Give the guy credit, he knows nothing, does nothing, so he says things that makes no common sense. I would say he's a PROFESSIONAL "know nothing."

Pointman in Seoul, Korea

Is it just a coincidence, that "Chertoff" rhymes with "jerkoff"?

Feel safer now, everyone, that Gut-Feel Chertoff is on the Job?
There are several people who have either left or been canned
that know eons more about security, but we have to stand by
and watch cronyism endanger our country and our lives. Oh,
oh, I seem to be playing the Cheney "get them frightened and
they'll do anything you want" game. Well, I hope it works and
that people understand Republicans are really pathetic at
dealing with real problems such as national security in a
pragmatic manner. They prefer "gut feelings" and the direct
pipeline they somehow believe they have to the Lord. Vote
them out in 2008, and vote in the smartest, most pragmatic
problem solver running. It just may be Joe Biden. No more
smiling used car salesman types, I beseech you! No more
plutocrats who believe they know more than anyone else
and, as a consequence, often know far less. If you believe
you know everything like the "decider," you're almost
guaranteed to be a fool because your mind closes and
withers away from realities.

Feel safer now, everyone, that Gut-Feel Chertoff is on the Job?
There are several people who have either left or been canned
that know eons more about security, but we have to stand by
and watch cronyism endanger our country and our lives. Oh,
oh, I seem to be playing the Cheney "get them frightened and
they'll do anything you want" game. Well, I hope it works and
that people understand Republicans are really pathetic at
dealing with real problems such as national security in a
pragmatic manner. They prefer "gut feelings" and the direct
pipeline they somehow believe they have to the Lord. Vote
them out in 2008, and vote in the smartest, most pragmatic
problem solver running. It just may be Joe Biden. No more
smiling used car salesman types, I beseech you! No more
plutocrats who believe they know more than anyone else
and, as a consequence, often know far less. If you believe
you know everything like the "decider," you're almost
guaranteed to be a fool because your mind closes and
withers away from realities.

i have a gut feeling that chertoff is an a**hole

Dear uncovered truth,now that know what he did to people's pets make me hate him even
more. I have 3 dogs that keep me going day after day.I would have probably just stayed
with my pets and took my chances.I live in
louisiana, and am ashamed at how our Gov.
came to our rescue(they didn't), while
spending our money on absurd projects like homeland security.I cannot imagine the pain
that those poor creatures and their masters
went through.I love my country, but i am so discused with our leaders.You know something, they look upon us the same as they look upon our pets.

To posters on the blog "Early Warning",

Several posters have expressed alarm regarding NSPD 51/ HSPD 20. Concern for extra constitutional action are addressed in the provisions of the directive. The limitations of NSPD 51/ are articulated in General Provision (20):

"This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19)"

Of greater import is the following quote from the source editorial of the Chicago Tribune:
"There have been reports already that suggest intelligence warnings at a similar level to the summer before Sept. 11, 2001 and that al-Qaeda may be mobilizing."

We face an adaptive, learning enemy who's stated goal is "...To kill Americans and their allies, both civil and military, is an individual duty of every Muslim who is able, in any country where this is possible...". This is the reality of the "new normal".

Semper prepare.

Dear contributor EngineerGA, I think I agree with you mostly, al Maliki appears to be incapable of building a coalition between the disparate parties and Al Sadr is just waiting for the US to leave. Just imagine what if we leave this will cause: Iran wants influence in Iraq like you wouldn't believe; the Sunnis being the minority would draw in the other Sunni states into the conflict; and NATO member Turkey would get involved because of the historic fights with the Kurds. But some folks think we need a timetable...

Dear contributor fatboy, I am probably not the person to ask about Vice President Cheney; I sure wouldn't go hunting with him, but I believe all of his investments are in a blind trust as is required by law. Is this real complicated or or are you just not happy that he was elected twice to his office according to our Constitution? Nonetheless flail away all you want. Jeepers.

We are spending hundreds of billions of
dollars for bush's war on terror.They are
spending hundreds of dollars.We are getting
them 1 at a time."Bring em On"Our real
terror is lack of affordable health care.I
will just go pray at the football game,
read the 10 commandents and listen to hate
talk on clear channel radio while the reps
protect me.Heck of a job cherkoff!

As long as he doesn't start talking about his precious bodily fluids, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

I wonder if Chertoff "had a gut feeling" just before Katrina!

Steve: It's great that you're in IT like me (security is a booming field now). However, where did anyone say we shouldn't be prepared? I think everyone thinks storing bottles of water, canned foods, first aid kits, etc. and keeping one's eyes open for potential evildoers is a good idea. Even the lame left-wing conspiracy theorists posting here have to agree to that.

I don't hate George W Bush. Bush has just broken my heart. I have a picture of him and Laura on my wall in my breakfast nook that has been there for years, but I'm seriously considering taking it down. Promoting fear in the populace to push your ailing legislation and your potential upcoming invasions is horrible. Why does Laura let him do these things - is she in the dark entirely? My wife (also a teacher) would kick my butt if I was a bad person. Why doesn't Laura force her Bushy to care again about America? I really believe they both cared initially, but they got wrapped up in the "War on Terror" and forgot all about us and our rights and the lives of the soldiers and Iraqis dying every day.

To get the record straight, however, Cheney was in it for Cheney and Halliburton from day 1, and he can be trusted about as far as you can throw him. Chertoff is a John Waters-looking pawn of Cheney's secret police, so what do you expect from him?

It's about time to enlist the aid of the UFOs that were spotted two weeks ago over the UK, I think, to get us out of here, since the terrorists are coming. :-0

Considering the history of the Jewish people and the Holocaust in Hitler's Third Reich propaganda machine of Herr Goebbels, I am astounded that Chertoff, a Jew, would adopt the Big Lie propaganda for his dispicable Fascist leader Bush. This thing is a disgrace to the Jewish people!

I don't know 'Truth Uncovered' - Bush has killed over 600,000 Iraqis, about 3609 of his own soldiers and who knows how many Afganis? If this alone doesn't get the Shrub impeached, do you really think dogs and cats will?

Chertoff ordered the slaughter of 10,000's of personal pets following katrina so the residents would have much less motivation to return to New Orleans. First time in US history dog and pets were ordered left behind on such a scale at gun point with orders directly from the White House. Another first was sending the pets to EVERY SINGLE STATE in the US and those that were "unable" to be shipped were killed. Mass graves of animals are being discovered just like those in Iraq of citizens from US torture and death squads. Chertoff is violently refusing any release of transcripts of what He and Bush ordered from Aug 28th-Sept 20th 2005. Bush would be impeached within days once you hear him order the death of 100,000 personal pets along the gulf. Chertoff who is a CITIZEN of Isreal takes orders outside this Country on many occassions even though he heads the US's entire security system?!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chertoff ordered the slaughter of 10,000's of personal pets following katrina so the residents would have much less motivation to return to New Orleans. First time in US history dog and pets were ordered left behind on such a scale at gun point with orders directly from the White House. Another first was sending the pets to EVERY SINGLE STATE in the US and those that were "unable" to be shipped were killed. Mass graves of animals are being discovered just like those in Iraq of citizens from US torture and death squads. Chertoff is violently refusing any release of transcripts of what He and Bush ordered from Aug 28th-Sept 20th 2005. Bush would be impeached within days once you hear him order the death of 100,000 personal pets along the gulf. Chertoff who is a CITIZEN of Isreal takes orders outside this Country on many occassions even though he heads the US's entire security system?!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE CAME ON THE SCENE AS A LAWYER WITH A BEARD; FROM THERE HE WENT TO BEING ONE WITH JUST STUBBLE; FROM THERE TO A MUSTACHE; THEN TO CLEAN SHAVEN. HE REALLY DOESN'T BELONG AS A DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY. NOT BECAUSE OF FACIAL HAIR OR WITHOUT SAME BUT JUST BECAUSE HE IS BASICALLY OUT OF HIS ELEMENT. HE IS INEPT. JUST A PUPPET OF GEORGE W. WITHOUT A SINGLE HOME GROWN THOUGHT IN HIS HEAD.

HE CAME ON THE SCENE AS A LAWYER WITH A BEARD; FROM THERE HE WENT TO BEING ONE WITH JUST STUBBLE; FROM THERE TO A MUSTACHE; THEN TO CLEAN SHAVEN. HE REALLY DOESN'T BELONG AS A DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY. NOT BECAUSE OF FACIAL HAIR OR WITHOUT SAME BUT JUST BECAUSE HE IS BASICALLY OUT OF HIS ELEMENT. HE IS INEPT. JUST A PUPPET OF GEORGE W. WITHOUT A SINGLE HOME GROWN THOUGHT IN HIS HEAD.

HE CAME ON THE SCENE AS A LAWYER WITH A BEARD; FROM THERE HE WENT TO BEING ONE WITH JUST STUBBLE; FROM THERE TO A MUSTACHE; THEN TO CLEAN SHAVEN. HE REALLY DOESN'T BELONG AS A DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY. NOT BECAUSE OF FACIAL HAIR OR WITHOUT SAME BUT JUST BECAUSE HE IS BASICALLY OUT OF HIS ELEMENT. HE IS INEPT. JUST A PUPPET OF GEORGE W. WITHOUT A SINGLE HOME GROWN THOUGHT IN HIS HEAD.

See a movie called "Why We Fight".

Then see; http://tinyurl.com/y9olfa

That should be, a five year, weekly chart, showing a 2 for 1 split about a year ago. The company is Halliburton hal (nyse). So now, remember to double the $ amount on the right because of the split. Mar.19/03 (remember) hal was about $17.50. Hmmm?

Apparently not one of the fifty 2,000lb. "smart" bombs dropped that night hit it's target. Hmmm?

Now compare the death toll from 9/11 to the Iraq occupation. Hmmm?

How many shares does Cheney own? Hmmm?

Save for a year or two and go to Disneyland! Hmmm?

See a movie called "Why We Fight".

Then see; http://tinyurl.com/y9olfa

That should be, a five year, weekly chart, showing a 2 for 1 split about a year ago. The company is Halliburton hal (nyse). So now, remember to double the $ amount on the right because of the split. Mar.19/03 (remember) hal was about $17.50. Hmmm?

Not one of the fifty 2,000lb. "smart" bombs dropped that night hit it's target.

Now compare the death toll from 9/11 to the Iraq occupation. Hmmm?

How many shares does Cheney own?

Save for a year or two and go to Disneyland!

Mind-Terror
Terrorists made where?
share with Israel the
predilection for summer strikes
'Summer Rain'07 against starving palestinians..
The Lebanon intervention, anything
but heroic.
Terrorims might be the voice of an
angry murderous child
inventing an enemy to unleash
their genocidal rage against
the not chosen ones.
"Total Peace" for Israel means
what exactly?
Hell Designers from all over the planet
volunteer to create Inferno for
'the bastards'= arabs, those wife beaters
with homosexual fantasies.
The carnage will go on forever unless we help Israel to co-exist and the ME to respect their sisters mothers wives..first
just to begin with.

.

The sneering and sarcasm and bashing among ourselves will have zero effect on the Islamic terrorists. Instead, we have to find and kill the Islamic terrorists before they harm us again. Bush II has such a killing program in place, only we must intensify it worldwide. This program may last indefinitely. Please know, dear reader, that the Crusades lasted 700 years. Who can say how long the present conflict will continue. Meanwhile, the costly, futile, foreign military involvement of America in Iraq subtracts from this positive offensive effort to root out the Islamic terrorists. In addition, the Iraq central government so far has not moved toward the national reconciliation that will create the conditions to end the Iraqi civil war. In time, however, left alone, the Iraqi people, with some outside assistance, will devise their own national order. One sign of this internal organizing ability lies in the recent joining of 200 tribal leaders in Iraq to drive Al Qaeda from their territory, because of contrary interests. America can safely remove most of its troops from Iraq while offering various support other than an occupying military force. After all, military experts have declared that the Iraqi civil war has no military solution. Further, Bush II and his toady, Senator John McCain, have it wrong when they assert that we have to defeat the Islamic terrorists in Iraq, or they will (somehow) follow us back to America. In fact, the American occupying army induced the Islamic terrorists to flock to Iraq. Removing this army will remove both a target and a rationale for the Islamic terrorists to continue their presence in Iraq. (Driving the infidels from Islamic territory exists as one pillar of Al Qaeda.) But we cannot predict that automatically, the Islamic terrorists will travel to America. On another point, we may agree with Bush II (speech, 4 July 2007) that a holy war exists between America and the Islamic terrorists, yet even this holy war cannot justify keeping our army in Iraq. Analytically, the Islamic terrorists will attack the symbols of American power wherever convenient. The American occupying army in Iraq presents a convenient target. Again, the answer to the Islamic terrorists already exists in the Bush II program to locate and kill the Islamic terrorists. An occupying army at best functions as a clumsy tool for this purpose. Mr. Chertoff has it right when he says our edge against the Islamic terrorists exists in our technology. Let us concentrate our defense and offense there. Eventually, the moderate Islamic leadership will exert its influence on Islam, to return it to its true values -- peace and tolerance. A rational dialog will ensue to resolve differences.

Isn't it amazing that the WashingtonPost.com says to "Please email us to report offensive comments." I'm offended by this ignorant display of LameStreamMedia journalism...let's stir up the fear pot some more! They didn't follow us over here, they've been here for years and they intend to do anyone harm they can...don't tell me you're surprised? If they killed your husband, wife or children what would you do? This is just more horse-hockey from inside the beltway - where all of the terrorists live anyway - in particular PA Ave... If you're still a God bless Amerika kind of guy, get a grip...God doesn't even want Amerika anymore, why do you think it's just about dead? I have a gut feeling, Bush/Cheney are looking for an excuse to nuke Iran...

He has a gut feeling...we finance these goons to have gut feelings. Maybe those 140 Israeli spies we deported after 9/11 send him an IM.

They say they encourage readers to comment and evern challenge their articles. Here's one:

How come no reporters ever asked these obvious questions:
- what's so different between these warnings for this "appealing" summer of increased risks, and the warnings issued in past "oh-so-appealing-to-the-terrorists" summers?

- (see dnitzer's comments below): on the one hand, we are told to fight over there so they don't come here, but on the other hand, your gut feeling tells you they are anyway?

Geez ... do bloggers have to come up with all the questions??

What I've learned reading this today:

marshall law
Chertoff must be skinny
the left is full of conspiracy theorists
the left hates Bush more than anyone else except Dick
the right hates the left
people like to talk about Bush's approval ratings, but not congressional's (sic), which is even lower

Hey thanks, this was so much more fulfilling than...um...never mind.

God Bless America (unless you're going to sue me for saying that, in which case a salam malakim)

tim

Da! I haf unt pain in mein gut too! Seig heil! More fear, more fear! Das sheeple must haf more fear! Da pain unht mein gut is more Das Fuhrer George unht Cherthoff. Dey must rule der world! Wake up sheeple, it's just more forking BS, probably der werk of der little dickless cheney...

Homeland Security's Disney link is just one more argument that government is largely a waste of taxpayers' money.

Man, if only we had a gut feeling prior to 9/11!!!

We'll see more and more of these statements as Bush's poll numbers and the war in Iraq both continue to go south.

Great... a gut feeling... how much does that cost again? September seems to be a rough month too. Is it the warm weather? What is it about the summer?

hmm... so telling kids to go play and not sit around the TV getting fat is being related to a press release on terrorism. Must be a very slow news day or you drank the bong water by accident this morning.

Get a life man. Your articles suck and I think you are starting to develop brain rot. You seriously need a new profession. Those stories about you are starting to sound more like truth by the minute.

Hey I have a gut feeling too. The Neocons are going to blow up a Radio Disney show at a mall full of children, blame it on Al-Qaeda, Then they can install marshall law. Sounds crazy? Just wait.

Hey Chertoff, what does your gut tell you about the Yankees making the playoffs??? Being that it's pretty clear that my U.S. bonds aren't going to pay off when this economy folds in on itself from the egregious Iraq war spending.

Cheney calls Chertoff into his office.

"Mike," he says (he calls him Mike), "We've got a problem. There are Republicans jumping ship. The frickin' hippies [edited for public discourse] are trying to move some bullcrappy [also edited] about leaving Iraq again. Time to do your magic, son."

Chertoff's stomach begins to burn and he wishes he'd remembered to bring his Tumms. "But Mr. Vice President," no first names here, "we've got no intelligence! And they're starting to pay attention to us whenever we change the alert level."

Cheney is already shaking his head, the office lights gleaming off his pate only making the discomfort in Chertoff's stomach worse. "Figure it out. That's your job, ain't it? I'm sure if you search your conscience, you'll be able to come up with a solution."

Chertoff salutes and walks out of the office, making a beeline for the nearest bathroom. "My conscience?" he mutters to himself as he pushes interns out of the ways. "All I've got is my gut..."He stops, one hand on his belly, the other on the bathroom door. "That's it! It's a gut feeling! They can't doubt that!"

--This has been a presentation of Another Day in the West Wing

farrarc I am a citizen of Berkeley, CA which is hardly a bastion of Bush supporters. When I was recently out of University many moons ago I worked across the street from the Trade Center on Church Street and now mostly deal with clients like Kaiser Permanente on HIPAA security issues as well as for others doing other mundane keeping out the bad guys stuff. No plant here. I still think people who are against vigilance are very selfish and borderline non-patriotic. Just my opinion.

look at all the losers the legal eagles at the FBI have rounded up in the country in the multi-billion $$$ war on terror. no operational capability whatsoever, usually nothing even remotely approaching the status of a "plan" to do harm, they were entrapped by FBI informants. then look at the 9/11 plotters -- at least, to the extent we've been told anything verifiable about who and what they were -- and how they managed to pull off a complicated operation with a level of efficiency that the multi-billion $$$ defenders of the republic probably envy. chertoff has a "gut feeling" but to me guys like him are more of a pain in the ass. it really hurts me to listen to someone so obviously out of his league, just a shill for corporate profiteers in the multi-billion $$$ perpetual and endless war on civilized values that's the shared goal of both sides in this fight.

So the walking zombie has a "gut feeling", does he? I'm not sure he can. I don't think there is any room for guts under skin drawn that tight...only bones!

But as a pawn sent out to try to keep us all in line with vague generalities about terrorist attacks, generalities designed to prop up a sociopathetic president's plummeting base, he's "...doing a heckuva job!"

My own gut feeling, though, is that he ain't foolin' nobody...except, perhaps, himself!

Michael Chertoff won't even take a cr@p without Rove and Cheneys permission. With Bushie's poll ratings in the upper twenties, it's time for more fear mongering. At least to justify staying in Iraq until Sept.

Man o' Man, it sure is refreshing to read (most)of these comments and realize that the "evil doers" in the White House can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of us consistently! Chertoff's no psychic. He's aware of what his boss George W is capable of! We should all be leary and on guard if the President's approval rating continue to drop and when the Dem's pick up enough Republican's to override Bushes veto...he will stop at nothing, including another staged attack on the US. Speak up! Speak Out!

Is this another *plant* or approved announcement by the Bush administration? Have they ever heard of *the boy who cried 'wolf'"? Unfortunately, I don't believe anything these people say anymore, but we all should be aware of our surroundings. After Chertoff's announcement, they will have so many reports to sift through, it will be impossible to find the actual one before it is too late.

I am a network security specialist and get to stop well hidden but not invisible people who would like to do harm to my client's organizations. Some people I believe mostly for partisan reasons who do not like the current administration are desperately trying to bring them down, our actual security situation be damned and all I have to say about them is shame on you. I have friends who died in the World Trade Towers which I am sure these individuals do not and want to pretend it didn't happen or oh nobody they knew died so it wasn't important. How selfish can some people be.

This "Taxpayer" guy is seriously delusional. I suspect that he's beyond hope. Anyway, I agree with the bulk of Arkin's contentions. Chertoff is a tragic disappointment.

I have a "gut feeling" that we'll be bombing Iran soon....

Michael Chertoff was the US attorney after 9-11 that locked up thousands of innocent people, suspended habeas corpus and left them to rot in some of the worst prisons in this country. Innocent, hard working people that came to the US following the same dream our forefathers had followed.
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Breaking the law gets you promoted in the Bush admin.
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Does that man look like death warmed over or what?

Bong hits 4 "Shrub"

-- Bless you, Molly Ivans.

Pass the Pepto to Chertoff!

If it has the same effect as sending our troops to Iraq to fight terrorism then sorry Chertoff, you are going to have a long gut feeling.

You Kool-Aid drinking, left-wing whackos need to get over your hatred of President Bush. Now get off drugs, then go pack sand where the sun doesn't shine.

Sincerely,
Bill

Fear & terror, Fear $ terror:
Apply directly to the forehead.

I thought Bush keeps telling us we are fighting them "over there, so they don't follow us back over here."

So is Chertoff saying they followed us here anyway? Then what was the point of the war over there again?

Fear & terror, Fear $ terror:
Apply directly to the forehead.

Considering the fact that the middle name of this Administration is "incompetence," I personally now feel more confident that we will not have an attack this Summer.

I think we all see the administration's motive--to scare us into line--behind comments like Chertoff's. As EngineerGA here put it, "They wait until people . . . start questioning the actions of the current regime, then they put us all back in line . . .with a terror warning. They use it to stifle political opposition."
The fear-mongering also stifles inquiry into what recent/present actualities may have motivated terrorist attacks (rather than 'evil' or "unforgiving vengefulness").

I love how the Dept. of Homeland Security has virtually unlimited resources at its fingertips- and yet choose to go with its secretary's 'gut feeling'? How idiotic is that? Summer is a time for increased attacks? Are you kidding? Remember the time when 9/1 occured in September? And when Richard Reid struck in December or so? And when the Madrid bombings were in March? Now Chertoff is getting into the psyche of a terrorist's mind to say he has some hunch as to when they will attack most? That's pretty audacious for someone with little or no prior experience in the field of terrorism.

Perhaps Mr. Chertoff's gut feeling is based on something that Mr. Cheney told him?

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Ever notice that when the president wants legislation passed dealing with the Iraq War--he calls on his Homeland Security team
to scare the American Public. Now, with Congress ready to pass legislation for a troop draw down, the response is predictable:
Get Chertoff to tell us his "gut feeling" is that trouble is ahead. So predictable; so blatant; so sad.

I post this comment from my backyard bomb shelter that has been my home since the early sixties! Each year, like that pugnacious Phil in Pennsylvania, I poke my head out to see whether I can see the next threat to my safety lurking in my shadow.
Well now that I see his "gut" is acting up too, I reluctantly close the lid until next summer!

I wholeheartedly agree with a previous comment that Mr. Chertoff's "gut feeling" coincides nicely with Mr. Bush's low approval ratings. In fact, at a time when Mr. Bush is losing GOP support for his War, it sure helps to incite fear in citizens of potential terror attacks. It helps also to hear reports of Al-Qaeda being flushed out of regions along the Tigris River in Iraq, even though reports and analysis show Al-Qaeda is in the minority amongst militants in that area. Are these things related? That's my "gut feeling."

Sounds like "big brother" is trying to justify their reason for being.Another money-pit for spying on peace loving Americans.It seems like we are all guilty until proven innocent.People need to watch
"terrorstorm",this will give you a real feel for this department.God help us if they ever become fully operational in every
city and town in our country.Not one bill of rights will be there to protect us.

When Al Qaeda makes a fresh video threat; Turks are amassing troops on the Iraqi border; a third aircraft carrier is headed to sit off the Iranian coast (with already over 200 warships); Syria recalling its nationals from Lebanon; Israel preparing for a summer war; Pakistan on Red Alert; and either us or Isreal preparing to strike Iran...hmmm, I am getting a strange feeling in my gut that something may happen on US soil real soon.

Disney supports the president with its Disney News service and is being rewarded.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=%22mark+halperin%22+site%3Amediamatters.org

Mr. Chertoff lacks any sense of irony. The Homeland, as he refers to our country, is blatantly like "the Fatherland." The Disney tour, part of what he has called the Homeland Security surge, echoes the Hitler Youth program. There is way too much power concentrated in one agency and this insidious invasion of children's hearts and minds underscores that. The mystical gut feeling of danger looming is political art resulting from brainstorming in the non-executive offices about "what each of us can do to get the public yet again too fearful to think clearly." The FBI is investigating people "suspected of being terrorists." Any chance a child, alerted to danger by Mickey Mouse, might suspect a parent of being a terrorist?

I already read the entire transcript. Chertoff was not talking to Dr. Phil. That was not the time to talk about his 'feelings.'

Early warning for what again? A gut feeling? Is this a precursor to another staged attack? I sure hope not. Or is this just more fear mongering because of Alberto Gonzalez, Scooter Libby, and "Executive Power" whether included or excluded. I remember when these so called "terror" alerts where coming out when Prezy Bush's numbers where at an all time low, and again they are at an all time low, and this low and dirty trixter comes out and says this BS>

Early warning for what again? A gut feeling? Is this a precursor to another staged attack? I sure hope not. Or is this just more fear mongering because of Alberto Gonzalez, Scooter Libby, and "Executive Power" whether included or excluded. I remember when these so called "terror" alerts where coming out when Prezy Bush's numbers where at an all time low, and again they are at an all time low, and this low and dirty trixter comes out and says this BS>

Questions:
How does paying for Disney advertising promote homeland security? Are the Homeland Security preparedness calls ALL used to encourage localities to advertise on behalf of various companies?

Is Chertoff suggesting that we take the same view as "The Terrorists," his imaginary homogenous group of fanatics who hate us and are furious about events from 500 or 600 years ago? Aside from the potentially valid arguement that "The Terrorists" may harbor relevant grievences about our more recent actions, I wonder if the "never forget or forgive those that have trespassed against us," is really a realistic, responsible, effective stance.
Finally, I question whether Mr. Chertoff's 'gut feeling' is in response to the anecdotal evidence that September happens to be in the summer, and am a bit concerned that he can't or won't explore this 'gut feeling' to determine if there is an actual reason to feel threatened. Perhaps this gut feeling is related more to the tendency for hurricanes in the summer months more than the tendency of "The Terrorists" to plan to murder when the weather is more pleasant. Thoughts?

Having read the partial transcript, I don't have a problem with the "gut feeling" remark. Read for yourself, the paragraph in question...
"I believe we're entering a period this summer of increased risk. We've seen a lot more public statements from Al Qaeda. There are a lot of reasons you can speculate about that, but one thing that occurs to me is that they feel a little more comfortable in raising expectations. Last August, and in prior summers, we've had attacks against the West; [that] suggests that summertime seems to be appealing to them. I think we do see a greater span of activity in South Asia, so we do worry about whether they are rebuilding their capabilities. We strike at them, we degrade them, but they rebuild. All these things give me kind of a gut feeling, not that I have a specific threat that I have in mind right now, but we are entering a period of increased vulnerability.
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Read the entire article, then complain and criticize. I, for one, saw a snippet of the difficulty the Homeland Security people have in pinpointing the When, the How and the Where of the next assault on this side of the Atlantic.

Arkin writes "I agree with Chertoff about the mindset of the terrorists". If by that he's referring to Chertoff's assertion that "They continue to harbor grievances over events that happened six or seven hundred years ago", he desperately needs a refresher in current events.

Start with Brzezinski's decision to fund the Taliban; Reagan's decision to turn the practice into a offensive doctrine; Bush Sr.'s complicity in the brutal suppression (and back-handed support) of the Wahabbists in S.A.; his decision to ask for permanent bases on the Saudi Peninsula; his complicity with the Saudi royals in the theft of (many) billions in oil revenue from the average Saudi; his thinly-veiled oil-play in the first Gulf War; Clinton's bumbling attacks on civilian installations in Africa; his weirdly-conceived action and inaction in the Balkans; Bush Jr.'s mania for Hussein; his tragicomic push for petro-hegemony in the Middle East. These are the effective causes of our troubles.

It's lazy, baseless assertions, like the recourse to "historical grievances", that let the administration off the hook and gives them carte blanche to pursue an ideological platform, whip the public into periodic frenzies, divert hundreds of billions to their partners in the military industrial complex, and rewrite our social contract to suit themselves. We need better from our media.

Looks like DHS is another Government cash cow that is able to siphon money back to big companies like Disney.

Disney is the government's propaganda machine, and always has been - look at the productions from WWII and the 50's...

Don't believe the lies. There are no gut feelings, only orders from the top to "Prepare a diversion tactic" or "Make the people scared".

P.S. - 9/11 was an inside Job. Key Evidence: Thermite., and the destruction of the evidence afterwards; White smoke instead of black, etc... No air defenses that day, the list goes on like some kind of Moon Hoax bed of lies full of "facts" that never quite add up.

Wake up, slaves! The pen is mightier that the sword, especially the pen of lies.

P.S. - Kennedy was shot in the front of the head, not the back, like they said.
Can you say Coup detat? Who are you really paying taxes to? If you can answer "Who killed Kennedy?", then you will know who your masters really are.

Watch out for those "Big Lies", those are the easiest to believe.

There is no worse reality than for a slave to actually believe that he is free.

Go about your business pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

This is getting really old.
Posted by: RealityCzech

You couldn't be more wrong. What the administration is really saying is that the Revolution that has been televised in the past, is coming to a street near you.

Wake up Rip!

I agree that the U.S. is more than likely going to experience a terrorist attack in the near future, simply because I believe it's likely that we remain a target and they probably have had something in the works since 9/ll. Remember how many years it was between the first terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center, and the second? That said, I think the actions of the current administration have put us in far more danger of a terrorist attack on the homeland, not less. The ongoing war in Iraq has bred new terrorists around the world. And nothing, it seems, is being done to protect the homeland. Our reservoirs, chemical transport system, ship containers, nuclear power plants, food supply, trains, bridges, and infrastructure all remain vulnerable. Nuclear weapons are being sold on the black market around the world, and we are watching passively while nations test and build their own nuclear bombs. The money spent in Iraq would be far better spent at home, truly protecting the American people, while at the same time working on diplomatic talks abroad to bring better relations with moderates in Muslim countries, who in turn-- if we listened to their concerns and gained their trust-- would help marginalize the dangerous fanatics. Getting out of Iraq is an important first step-- the most immediate thing we can do to increase security at home. I believe that any Democratic president would do a better job of protecting the U.S. homeland than the current administration, which is asleep at the wheel at home, while creating new enemies for America abroad.

Yeah! That's It!!

Are we going to change the threat system based on Chertoff's 'feelings'? Upper gut or lower gut? Right or Left? Upper left? Looking on this diagram of Chertoff's stomache, a 'feeling' in his upper left means there's an imminent danger of an attack.

What an insult to all the intelligence analysts who poured over this data for him to characterize their conclusions as his 'gut feeling.'

I have PMS so I guess that makes me a good fit for one of DHS' many openings.

Hmmm more questions on the admin behavior? Time bring the shiny penny back out.

Warning warning american citizens we may or may not have something for you to be worried about. Then again it may be nothing. Go about your business pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

This is getting really old.

Chertoff is also the guy who said, regarding requesting more information about European's flying into the U.S.: "We have an absolute right to get this, in the same way that if someone wants to be a guest in my house, I have a right to ask them who they are and get identification." I don't necessarily disagree with his point but the metaphor he chose is telling. I'm assuming he doesn't have many guests over. Does he strip search his guests also? And what about fighting them 'there' so we don't have to fight them 'here'? Does this mean the "fighting them 'there'" part isn't working? How about tracking down these terrorists a**holes like Zarqawi and stopping the fear mongering. Chertoff should lose his job over a comment like this which is pure politically motivated fear-mongering. The President and Republicans have recently been using the term "Political Theater" a lot; well, they should know because they are putting on the biggest show of all.

I'm off to the store for more plastic sheeting and duct tape.

The government that cried wolf has done it once too often in an effort cow voters into keeping our incompetent president in office. It's too late to warn us. They've done it a thousand times. We're sick of hearing the lies.

Perhaps Secretary Chernoff could spend some time filling the numerous positions he has left open in his department. Then, after five years and hundreds of millions of dollars, he may have information that we can be certain wasn't just the result of a bad taco. Phrank

They need another 911 to enact National Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive HPSD 20. Both of which give Bush power over all branches of govt and allow him to remain in office indefinitely and grant him the power of succession for all govt positions in the case of a "catastophic emergency".

Whatever color coded alert status is "officially" in place, we can be hit anytime. Are our ports or borders more secure since 9/11? Of course not! It would slow the flow of goods from China and elsewhere being dumped on the American economy. America's sovereignty is disappearing so the multinationals can make more money with cheap labor. The Rev has it right! The armed forces are being turned into robocops with these private security people on the battlefield.

yea I have a gut feeling the terrorist are planning another hurricane, yea that's it

I was actually a major supporter of Bush (proclaiming how great he was to all, not sending him money) during his first four years as our president. I voted for him again because I thought Kerry was soft on homeland security. Then, after terror alerts, long lines at airports, and the constant repetition of "War on Terror - be vigilant!" from the administration in every media outlet while they use no-bid defense contracts, reconstruction of what we just blew up contracts, and arms deals to get personally rich. That's when I realized: Oh my gosh, this is a war machine I'm supporting! They wait until people are feeling safe and develop feelings of unrest and dissatisfaction or start questioning the actions of the current regime, then they put us all back in line (cowering in fear - "please save us!") with a terror warning. They use it to stifle political opposition ("you aren't supporting the troops," or "you're soft on security issues") with an "us versus them" mentality - if you're not with us, you're with the terrorists! Then, they take that momentum to take our personal liberties and wipe their noses on the US Constitution with imprisonment with no trials, secret kidnappings, torture, warrantless wire-tapping, and more.

I think it's great that we have largely prevented terror strikes in the US since 9/11/01, and I think it's great that the local police are getting more federal support and more local funding as well. Being prepared is great too, and we should have the US preparedness initiative to prepare us for any horrible event (weather, fires, terrorism - whatever). However, why should we be inundated with fear-invoking statements by people who are supposed to be helping us prepare? How does hinting that I'm going to be dirty-bombed this summer help me store canned foods, first-aid supplies, and water? Oh, I see, it doesn't, but it does help you keep your position of authority unquestioned.

If the Democrats have any sense, they'll start playing the game too before the '08 election. Obama: you had better remind us of our fearful position as the ripe, low-hanging fruit for terrorism and tell us all how you will protect us if we just give up our liberties that we aren't really using anyway. It really seems to work.

"Chertoff has a gut feeling" means Bush is planning his next staged attack on the US!

Thanks Chertoff. For the next terroist attack we only need look to where the White House stages another one of their 'terrorist attack simulations.'

So Mr. Chertoff has"gut feeling" which isn't even based on faulty or fabricated intelligence, and the Communications Department makes sure it makes international news.

They used to at least try to source things - remember "Curveball?" Now the administration is so arrogant, they're just phoning it in.
It's irresponsible. A lot of Americans are upset by it. And those with PTSD are especially affected. Unless the president's approval ratings start to enter the now lofty 30% range, expect more.

Totally and utterly predictable. Bush's approval numbers in the polls sink into the 20's, and Chertoff immediately starts sounding off about another vague and undefined terrorist threat. Once again, the tired old "weapons of mass distraction."

Chertoff and Bush have no credibility whatever. They're the "boy who cried 'wolf' too often."

Now if he could just retain some feeling in his sphincter he might be able to put a stop to this never ending flow of BS.

Robocops..., that's where America is headed!

If #43 and Chertoff have their way, it won't be long before all of America's streets will be filled, like Washington's were filled with caricatures of elephants and donkeys a few years ago, with bomb-sniffing, anti-terrorist Robocop figures.

What I hear Mr. Cherthoff not saying but implying is that the administration in DC does not have a solution to the problem, and that they have in effect surrendered, and therefore American citizens should prepare to live in Beirut U.S.A. for the forseeable future.

What Mr. Chertoff views as 'a race' with the terrorists in my opinion is a non-sequitur - we don't want to live like that. We don't want to be in a race with terrorists, the average American citizen I suspect (in his own way) wants to see a resolution to the problem.

A change of course would be better than the 'tit for tat strategy' that the current administration in Washington has proposed.

Otherwise, let's all watch for Robocop(s); they will be coming soon to a city near you, standing on street-corners, sniffing for bombs, surveiling, and following each of us up and down the causeways of America each and every day!

The Rev is serious...