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Sheesh, the World Trade Center WAS INSURED you know, what was it ? 1/3 a trillion USD ?

and my god - we lost more people a year to drunk driving than 3,000 in a bad accident.

The over reaction with Fox News all ready to go on this post 9.11 and ramp it up, just amazing.

These people see two buildings go kaboom and they're willing to sell out everyones rights as citizen's - indebt our children, and - AND - sheesh, has ANYONE here seen that Homeland has a CHILDREN'S section at their website ?

What is going on here !

This is a CRIME against children.

So a building came down after the Bush admin planted US troops on Saudi holy lands - hey, maybe Bush sr. shouldn't have done that and maybe people wouldn't get so upset ?

Oil -

that's what this sellout has been for.

Kids - AND people 18-25 are DYING for the bush's.

20 of 28 years - BUSHES in the white house.

This country is SO SOLD OUT !

I don't see it ever coming back regardless of WHO wins 2008.

US corporations outsource to skate taxes, I suggest US citizens find a way to outsource themselves from the nationstate with the BIG RED X on it now that the USA has provoked SO much HORROR and TERROR in the middle east- you BET someone who watched their family get blown up is going to live their life to get back.

I don't even want to THINK About the people that were released from Abu Graihb and how THEY must feel. LORD KNOWS what kind of revenge is brewing against the US, THANKS bush- Mission accomplished allright...

You got a guaranteed war machine now for 10 years, + several trillion in oil revenues.

People check this out

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But legally there is not much that the Iraqis or Russians can do to contest this in the United States because of an executive order signed by president George Bush in late May. Executive order number 13303 states "any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void", with respect to "all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein."

With this, Bush granted Iraqi oil a lifetime exemption provided US companies are involved in the oil's production, transport, or distribution. This order applies to Iraqi oil products that are "in the United States, hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons." (Under US law, corporations are "persons.")

"In other words, if ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco touch Iraqi oil, anything they or anyone else does with it is immune from legal proceedings in the US," explained Jim Vallette, an analyst with the Sustainable Energy & Economy Network of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington DC.

"Anything that has happened before with oil companies around the world -- a massive tanker accident; an explosion at an oil refinery; the employment of slave labor to build a pipeline; murder of locals by corporate security; the release of billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere; or lawsuits by Iraq's current creditors or the next true Iraqi government demanding compensation -- anything at all, is immune from judicial accountability," he says.

"Effectively Bush has unilaterally declared Iraqi oil to be the unassailable province of US oil corporations," Vallette added.

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yeah, bush has BlackWater under the radar AND BlackWell gets to do whatever they want with the Iraqi oil

I wonder if President Talibani was ever BRIEFED on 13303.

He'd blow a gasket if he stumbled across that.

"What ? You mean, US oil corporations can do what they want with the oil ? and they're immune from prosecution"

NICE MISSION BUSH - it's accomplished allright !

Go Laura Go - Let Chevron fuel the SLORC and you show that spine.

I hope no one ever went - oh never mind, I don't care what two consenting adults do behind closed doors in the White House.

Homeland is it's own greatest threat.

This department has NO intention of EVER giving the American psyche a rest from 'Fear Terror' go take a look at their GIF's on their website.

There IS no Terror Level - ZERO.

It's a CRIME what this organization does to the psyche of a child.

Where the NSA and CIA failed ? We're supposed to buy into this ?

Come on.

'Merican people are TIRED of running scared - 'oh no, the terrists gonna git us' to 'not today, homeland did it's job' to Fox News saying 'oh, most def. a terror attack WILL happen that will dwarf 9.11' Gee, who needs intel when you have Fox News.

I don't buy into any of it, and lately ? I question how convenient it is that with no 9.11, over 1 trillion USD wouldn't be spent, let alone our debt to a nationstate (China) who supports CHILD SLAVERY - thanks bush - you got us dependent on a nation who uses kids to make their exported goods, GREAT JOB ! Oh, Lead ? Magic Railroad ? GoldDust ? I think I hear Thomas the Tank engine coming to take down an entire economy.

So, if the comments listed here represent the feelings of the majority of Americans, why do the fear-mongering radicals still control all three branches of government?

Posted by: MedallionOfFerret

The answwer is simple, the system is flawed. Just consider the electoral college and the year 2000 general election. The people spoke, and given the popular vote and the expressed will of the American people Al Gore won the election - yet 'the loser' became the President!

Consider the flawed Congress. A democratic House and Senate majority votes one way, the President vetoes the bill, the holdover Republican minority always sides with the lame-duck president - and once again the majority looses.

Even in a majoritarian society, the majority seldom wins.

Don't hate the player the kids say, hate the game! Its not about the American citizens, they are not the problem. It is a flawed system that is in need of repair. It is suppose to be a system that represents the will of the majority of the people - and I have just proved that it does not represent the will of the American people.

Hey Sammi Ellison....Remember the pukes we had in the White House in the 90's they did everything in their power to appease our attackers. How many times did they hit us during that time period? How many US Embasies did they bomb? Did they attck the world trade center before 9/11? Did they hit the Cole? Oh let's not forget Old Jimmie Carter's presidency...We lost Iran during his great hour of watchfulness. These people hate all that are not of their Faith.When are you ever going to learn. It's not Cheney or Bush it's everyone

So, if the comments listed here represent the feelings of the majority of Americans, why do the fear-mongering radicals still control all three branches of government?

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'that Al Qaeda "likely will intensify its efforts to place operatives here in the Homeland."

What happened to 'here in the United States'? Man, this overnight public acceptance of this creepy new fascist lanugage is truly upsetting. You wake up one morning and you live in 'the Homeland' rather than 'America.' How did this happen? I refuse to acknowledge or use the term -- it sickens me.

'to detect "anomalies and deviations that could indicate terrorist activity." The strategy adds that the "reporting of unusual or suspicious activity by private sector partners and a vigilant public also is essential to this effort.' --private sector partners like say, Blackwater? And the vigilant public I assume, would include your own children, who will report 'anomalies and deviations'?

Be very afraid, people. The worst is yet to come.

Unnoted so far is the Supreme Court's refusal to hear the Masri appeal. What that means is that Bush & Cheney can do about anything they want to anyone they don't like and protect themselves under the mantle of "state secrets." It is not that we fear fascism, which has always lurked in the wings, from the pre-WWII Bund to McCarthyism and current illegal surveillance of US citizens, it is that it has arrived. As a veteran, I am particularly offended by our obvious use of torture against perceived "terrorists." The country has a spotty record at best (Native Americans, lynch-law) but its current administration is not worth defending.

How to protect the homeland?
If you attack the US we elect crazies like Cheney. There you go safe and sound.
Now if you change the policies that can be used to legitimize the attacks in the Koran you can remove the moral reasoning for the attack. Doing that would stop the recruitment of new terrorists giving us a finite number of people to hunt down. Currently our policy breeds an infinite number future terrorist making victory a wet dream.

It has become frighteningly obvious that our dim-witted president has little or no sense of History.

Even if he knows the FDR quote "We have nothing to fear but fear itself," I'm sure that he would not understand what it really means.

He probably didn't understand "My Pet Goat" either.

The administration seems more afraid of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the liberty-affiliations of the American people. Do they really think that our civil liberties pose the greatest threat to their authoritarian aims? Can't defeat the enemy without, sure can crush the imagined enemy within? Piss poor strategy, fellows. These are wannabe fascists (and I hate the used of the "Homeland" term, sounds like something totalitarians would use).

The presidents new "national strategy" is not unexpected compared to what is already happening in America today and the part about the public pointing out any suspicious activity does make sense and is reasonable. Even so the public pointing out suspicious activity could easily turn into how it was like under Russia during Stolen reign where all you need to do is say that a person is against the government and they will be arrested.

In league with the stones...

Every September, I recall that is more than half a century (62 years) since I landed at Nagasaki with the 2nd Marine Division in the original occupation of Japan following World War II. This time every year, I have watched and listened to the light-hearted "peaceniks" and their light-headed symbolism-without-substance of ringing bells, flying pigeons, floating candles, and sonorous chanting and I recall again that "Peace is not a cause - it is an effect."

In July, 1945, my fellow 8th RCT Marines [I was a BARman] and I returned to Saipan following the successful conclusion of the Battle of Okinawa. We were issued new equipment and replacements joined each outfit in preparation for our coming amphibious assault on the home islands of Japan.

B-29 bombing had leveled the major cities of Japan, including Kobe, Osaka, Nagoya, Yokohama, Yokosuka, and Tokyo.

We were informed we would land three Marine divisions and six Army divisions, perhaps abreast, with large reserves following us in. It was estimated that it would cost half a million casualties to subdue the Japanese homeland.

In August, the A-bomb was dropped on Hiroshima but the Japanese government refused to surrender. Three days later a second A-bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. The Imperial Japanese government finally surrendered.

Following the 1941 sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, a Japanese admiral said, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant..." Indeed, they had. Not surprisingly, the atomic bomb was produced by a free people functioning in a free environment. Not surprisingly because the creative process is a natural human choice-making process and inventiveness occurs most readily where choice-making opportunities abound. America!

Tamper with a giant, indeed! Tyrants, beware: Free men are nature's pit bulls of Liberty! The Japanese learned the hard way what tyrants of any generation should know: Never start a war with a free people - you never know what they may invent!

As a newly assigned member of a U.S. Marine intelligence section, I had a unique opportunity to visit many major cities of Japan, including Tokyo and Hiroshima, within weeks of their destruction. For a full year I observed the beaches, weapons, and troops we would have assaulted had the A-bombs not been dropped. Yes, it would have been very destructive for all, but especially for the people of Japan.

When we landed in Japan, for what came to be the finest and most humane occupation of a defeated enemy in recorded history, it was with great appreciation, thanksgiving, and praise for the atomic bomb team, including the aircrew of the Enola Gay. A half million American homes had been spared the Gold Star flag, including, I'm sure, my own.

Whenever I hear the apologists expressing guilt and shame for A-bombing and ending the war Japan had started (they ignore the cause-effect relation between Pearl Harbor and Nagasaki), I have noted that neither the effete critics nor the puff-adder politicians are among us in the assault landing-craft or the stinking rice paddies of their suggested alternative, "conventional" warfare. Stammering reluctance is obvious and continuous, but they do love to pontificate about the Rights that others, and the Bomb, have bought and preserved for them.

The vanities of ignorance and camouflaged cowardice abound as license for the assertion of virtuous "rights" purchased by the blood of others - those others who have borne the burden and physical expense of Rights whining apologists so casually and self-righteously claim.

At best, these fakers manifest a profound and cryptic ignorance of causal relations, myopic perception, and dull I.Q. At worst, there is a word and description in The Constitution defining those who love the enemy more than they love their own countrymen and their own posterity. Every Yankee Doodle Dandy knows what that word is.

In 1945, America was the only nation in the world with the Bomb and it behaved responsibly and respectfully. It remained so until two among us betrayed it to the Kremlin. Still, this American weapon system has been the prime deterrent to earth's latest model world- tyranny: Seventy years of Soviet collectivist definition, coercion, and domination of individual human beings.

The message is this: Trust Freedom. Remember, tyrants never learn. The restriction of Freedom is the limitation of human choice, and choice is the fulcrum-point of the creative process in human affairs. As earth's choicemaker, it is our human identity on nature's beautiful blue planet and the natural premise of man's free institutions, environments, and respectful relations with one another. Made in the image of our Creator, free men choose, create, and progress - or die.

Free men should not fear the moon-god-crowd oppressor nor choose any of his ways. Recall with a confident Job and a victorious David, "Know ye not that you are in league with the stones of the field?"

Semper Fidelis
Jim Baxter
Sgt. USMC
WW II and Korean War

Job 5:23 Proverbs 3:31 I Samuel 17:40

http://www.choicemaker.net/

Despite the horrific impact a handful of well-financed jihadists managed to have on our national psyche, I still can't believe that a few thousand nut-cases can have the most powerful country in the world pissing it's pants in fear. Wake up people! If every one of these suicidal chanters got past the borders with a 500-lb bomb strapped on them it wouldn't amount to a single bombing run in virtually any modern war, and no country has ever been 'defeated' by such an action. Vigilance and awareness is enough, not police-state powers in the hands of politicians.

There's a rather interesing essay written by Lieutenant Colonel Brian Hanley, USAF, in last month's issue of "Proceedings" on the relative uselessness of today's "security strategies"; e.g., the National Military Strategy, National Defense Strategy, Quadrennial Defense Review, etc.

(For those not familiar with "Proceedings", it's published montlhy by the US Naval Institute. For over 135 years, "Proceedings" has been arguably the premiere indepedent forum for military professionals to voice their thoughts asnd concerns on matters relating to national defense.)

In that essay, Hanley points out the fundamental weaknesses in all our top-level stragetic documents. Specifically, "Abstractions about types of threats adorn our strategic booklets, but otherwise they are bereft of worthy advice on how to advance or protect our permanent interests. Not a substantive word is said about what sort of peace our enemies and rivals hope to achieve. Instead of embodying clarity, our strategic documents betray an aversion to hard fact in much the same way a promotional campaign tries to establish a dubious connection between the wares for sale and happiness or wisdom."

Harsh words, but I find myself agreeing to a considerable extent. As such, these supposed "strategies" (of which I now include the "National Strategy for Homeland Defense") are useless as planning documents. Rather, they are more marketing documents devised to obtain constituency for an idea or concept.

Hanley summarizes his essay by writing, "Our various military strategies reflect America's lofty aspirations and our love of business idiom, but they have lost touch with contemporary geopolitical fact and a traditional understanding of strategy." and "The frothiness of these documents reflects a blinkered understanding of a world that remains brutal, dangerous, and beholden to unreason. More than ever before, the time has come for us to institute lucid strategic thinking."

Within this context, discussing the "trajectory of American society" offered by the National Strategy for Homeland Security is mute. Like many of our nation's top-level strategic documents, it's very froth and lack of substance make it unexecutable and irrelavent.

After reading this, I was trying to remember what year it was. 1984 came to mind. Look out or the boogy man will get you. Oops, I mean W and dead eye Dick.

I was trying to remember what year this is, and 1984 came to mind. Watch out or the boogy man will get you. Oops, I mean W and dead eye Dick.

Michigan Militia running like Cocka Roaches when the lights go on.
Or maybe just the Cowards they Really Are.

Judge Grant is one of the Jackson Michigan Judges that I had previousely named as a Member of the Michigan Militia and responcible for the April 19th 1995 Bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City Oklahoma.
Judge Grant has also taken Cash Money Bribes on a regular basis from local Drug Dealers one of which the DEA raided his house and arrested him in January 2006 on the basis of evidence I gave them and the 15 year old outstanding Felony Warants issued by the Jackson Michigan Courts and Judges. They (all the Jackson Judges) just thought they were better off taking stacks of Cash each month from said Drug Dealer which I protographed them taking and gave to the U.S. Attorney's Office and the DEA.
Judge Grant of Jackson Michigan who has been Publically named as Michigan Militia has announced publically today he will retire on December 31st 2007.
Judges Vandercook and Nelson who were outed for being Michigan Militia and for their violations of the RICO ACT for their being part owners of Lifeways and Community Connections in Jackson Michigan retired January 1st 2007.
Lifeways and Community Conections are Companies where the Judges would by Court Order force people to go to for their Drug and Alcohol Abuse Counciling, Anger Management Counciling excetra. Then they force by Court Order people to become Addicted to Anti-Sycotics and Anti-Depresents so they can force them to continue going to their Company for treatment. And the whole time the Judges are making millions of dollars and expanding their company into other Counties like Hillsdale Michigan where they have inlisted the aid of more crooked Judges who want to make money by Violating the Federal RICO Act.
Judge Fallahee Jr. who was outed for being Michigan Militia and taking bribes from drug dealers and anybody else with money (like all the Judges in Jackson County do) retired a few months ago.
If anyone thinks I have been lying about what I have said about the Michigan Militia being in control of Jackson Michigan then tell me this.
Why are so many of the people I have named and given evidence against for being Michigan Militia and being in charge of and running Jackson City/County Michigan running off to retire all of a sudden?
Mr. Thulin
Retired Court Officer
State of Michigan
P.O. Box 6279
Jackson, Michigan
49201-6279

The best thing we can do to restore security to the United States is to remove the current administration trying to scare us into blindly authorizing and in the name of the "Fatherland", uh, oh ,yeah, "Homeland".

I don't think the neo-cons want Hillary (or John Edwards or Barack Obama) wielding the power that Dubya and Dead Eye Dick have asserted. The neo-cons want Rudy, Mitt or Fred in the White House next.

The fact that the President (and many Republican operatives) have pursued policies that are inimical to the majority of Americans' interests seems to not to bother these folks inside the Beltway. Not just SCHIP. Not just the warrantless wiretapping (expanded in August). Not just the continued export of jobs overseas, or the crushing debt being accrued, owed primarily to the mainland Chinese. All of these policies. And more.

Bush and his friends are doing all they can to reintroduce Bill and Hillary to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I have a suggestion:

We can either convert the almost one million Homeland Security employees into armed fighting men and women, and get them out on the battlefield too - they don't seem to be doing us much good in their civilian roles.

Or, we can simply modify our inane and illogical foreign policy that is stirring up more hatred for America, all around the globe.

The latter will be cheaper and safer in the short and in the long run!

The biggest threat to our Constitution, the rule of law, our country, along with internal and external security is the Bush Administration that has subverted Congress and the Courts for the benefit of multinational big business.

9/11 was not caused by homegrown terrorists and was preventable by the simple technique of reinforced, locked cockpits and the foreknowledge that an airliner may be used as a weapon instead of merely hijacked as unscheduled transport to Cuba or an Arab state.

Terrorism from lawful residents or US citizens have come more from disgruntled Americans like unibomber or McVeigh, whose anti-government views will be exagerated by the proposed intense surveilance. Local Islamic violence caused by those, like blind Sheik, whom we admitted as political refugees, knowing they were persecuted for violent anti-western activity.

This homeland security proposal seems less a real safeguard for us than a threat to our liberty. Using a blown up threat of homegrown Islamic terrorism to increase the authoritarianism of our own federal government.

An overly strong unitary executive seems cause for more fear than the very limited and very crude attempts at homegrown Islamic terrorism we have seen to date. Our Republican brethren may disagree today, but a moments contemplation of Hilary wielding the powers that Bush wants in his waning months, should temper their views.