bush should stop saying it

We may agree on one thing. I also think that sooner or later, nukes will go off.

Anyway you look at it a nuclear strike has to happen, from us or one of the other countries.When you kill and threaten people they are going to react to it.I heard that even the french has nukes aim at them if they get outa line.So what that tell you, they are making other countries nevous as well.As I said earler in my comments they are not going to bend to these people as well. If you want facts look at past war history. Everybody will do the right thing to protect there countries...

A bomb the size of the one that took out Hiroshima today fits in a suitcase. You might want to think a little about that.

I really dont think there missle will reach over here, there technology is so far back, not to mention we have defence missles to knock them out if there was that threat.As Bid laden said on national tv, convert to Muslim or be at war, Kinda of remind you of a certain dictator of WW 2 that wanted everyone to lay down your arms or else be with war us.Well we didnt lay down our arms then and we wont now.I really serious think these other country's will join in too on the BBQ as well. I cant see Russia, Germany or Japan converting to Muslim can you ? They would rather die first before that will ever happen.I do know Russia has old score to settle with them from old war they had with them a long time ago.Anyways it is a plus + for all the country's to get rid of them before it happens to them too..

Hey Mark:
I like your logic! That means Saudi Arabia should nuke us right now. Then they can claim lordship over the entire world instead of you. Let us know what your home town is, and we'll make sure it's on their list!

I think a US nuclear strike on Iran would show the entire Muslim world that it is useless to resist America and would stop the war. If they really had a first hand look on what a nuclear strike can do they would for sure crap there pants.Any place that allow women to be shot head for not doing the dishes or something like that is a evil place to begain with..so I say save lives and Nuke them...

Bush's WWIII: us agin them.

Brad's WWIII: Attack alla them Mooslim terrrist countries, 'specially if they got oil.

The other 6,999,999,998 human occupants of the planet*: huh?

*Vice-president Cheney and his staff don't qualify; they've been on another planet for years (and may not qualify anyway).

If you have a blackbelt in karate Iran is like dealing with a drunk with a knife.

A man that cannot and will not even learn to correctly pronounce the name of a weapon (Nuclear) has no business controlling or instigating it's use.

What does Bush mean when he says: "If you want to see World War III, you know, a way to do that is to attack Israel with a nuclear weapon." He means that Israel will unleash its "Samson Option" against all the nations that it blames for its demise -- and that includes Russia which helped Iran with its nuclear reactor and has supplied Iran and other Muslim nations with advanced weaponry. And what happens when the United States' greatest ally attacks Russia - Russia sends a couple thousand nuclear weapons our way. Bush won't tell the public, but all the high level politicians know just what he is talking about. Seymour Hersh wrote a whole book called "The Samson Option" which repeatedly mentions Israel's hostility towards the Soviet Union, and its targeting Russia with nuclear weapons. This hostility that has transferred over to Russia which pursues similar pro-Arab and Muslim policies.

"And Bush needs to stop repeating it."
And the American public needs to stop believing it. At least, him. Mr. Fear himself. Maybe if he wouldn't have been a C- student, he would have learned that a President leads by honor, courage and integrity.
His only resolve, is to keep selling fear. The Republican way to stay in office, scare the citizens of the strongest country in the world. It's time for them to play the orange, yellow, red light game of distraction to cover their failures. But heck, it could be Bush really believes his legacy is to be the President who started WWIII?!

A pox on our corrupt Democrat/Republican duopoly and the corporate/globalist/hegemonic master it serves. It's clear from reading many of these posts that quite a few Democratic sympathizers seem to think the Democrats in Congress are not guilty of enabling war crimes. To wit: Nancy Pelosi, as Democratic Speaker of the House, caved to pressure from the Israel Lobby by removing language in legislation that would have required the President to go to Congress before attacking Iran. By supporting and putting forward legislation to that end, the warmongering Democrats Tom Lantos and Joe Lieberman are just itching for the US to bomb Iran. So much for Democrats being the party for peace and diplomacy! When Hillary gets in there not much will change, except the Oval Office toilet seat will always be down (and not quite big enough).

William Arkin has tunnel vision. He ignores all the killing around the world by nationals not Iranian. He ignores the milenium of global jihad that conquered most of the civilized world prior to 1638. See, Bostom, Legacy of Jihad: Holy War and its Effect on Non-Muslims by suggesting that the threat is Iran, acting alone. Bostom suggested, in an article about the doctors who tried to blow up nightclubs in London, and the Airport in Scotland, that the current wave of terror is a "fulminant recrudescence" of a milenium of Islamic Imperialism from 632 to 1638 when it was stopped at the gates of Vienna.

The current wave of terror commenced in the early 70s.

March 1, 1973 kidnapped and later killed 2 American diplomats
In Israel, many American citizens were killed -- rockets fired at our embassy in Beirut.
1979 Invasion of US embassy in Teheran kidnapping of employees
1983 Truck bomb killing 63 employees in Beirut embassy
October 1983 Truck bomb killing 241 US Marines at Beirut airport.
September 1984 Another truck bomb hits embassy annex in Beirut
Dec ember 1984 Kuwaiti airliner hijacked - 2 Americans killed
June 1985 TWA 847 hijacked and flown to Beirut, 1 sailor killed and dumped on asphalt runway.
October 1985 Achille Lauro hijacked, Klingshoffer in wheelchair murdered
April 1986 Bomb in West Berlin discotheque frequented by US servicemen
1986 Abu Nidal kills 3 US citizens
December people killed on Pan Am #103 over Lockerbie
1993 more American citizens killed in Israel
February 1993 Truck bomb in World Trade Center building
April 1993 Attempt to assassinate President George HW Bush
March 1995 Karachi two American diplomats killed
June 1996 Khobar Towers in Dharan truck bombed 240 Americans killed.
June 1998 car bombs at our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, 200 dead, 12 US.
October 2000 USS Cole bombed 17 US dead, 39 wounded
9/11 2001 World Trade Center bombed with two hijacked airliners.
9/11 2001 Pentagon bombed with one hijacked airliner
9/11 2001 Another airliner hijacked and crashed in Pennsylvania.

To see the cause, on cannot look at the war in Iraq commenced in the next milenium.

Here is the cause as stated by Khomenei in 1942:

Islam's jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless. But those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under [God's Law] . . . .

Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back untill they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to [the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists that to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors!

There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths [sayings of the prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.
Reprinted in Bostom, " The Legacy of Jihad and the Fate of the Non-Muslims" Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 2005

Note: This statement was made before the US invaded Iraq for the second time, or the first time. It was made before the US, at the request of the government of Saudi Arabia stationed US troops in Saudi Arabia to defend it against Saddam Hussein. It was made before the ouster of Mohammed Mossadegh as Prime Minister of Iran in 1953. It was made before the Declaration of the State of Israel of its independence in 1948. Therefore, one must ask, what is it that the US did, which was responsible for Khomeini's statement? Fight against the Barbary Pirates?

In 1920 the Muslim Brotherhood was formed but it and its philosophers Qutb, Madudi, Sheik Abdullah Azzam could do much until the 1970s produced a flood of petrodollars. See Dore Gold: Hatred's Kingdom: How Saudi Arabia is Supporting the Wave of Terror.

What about now? As Gary Sick has said: "Ahamdinejad sees himself as emulating his great mentor Khomeini."

For 9,953 deadly attacks around the world since 9/11 see
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
and you will learn that in the week of October 27 to November 2 there were 46 deadly jihad attacks killing 210 people and leaving 332 critically injured.

Iran will be in the vanguard with nuclear weapons but it will have a lot of helpers. It already relies of Syria and the Hezbollah in Lebanon for its threat of 11,000 rockets directs at Israel and the US troops in Iraq should Irael or the US try to disable from wiping Israel off the map, as reported and translated by the State controlled Iran Broadcasting Company.

It was a stupid, hyperbolic and weak statement. And Bush needs to stop repeating it.

To James

Ok, Then lets hear from you.

1) What is the solution for the current crisis.
2) Are you willing to risk Iran have N bomb, if yes why?
3) Your opinion of Ahmedinijad, is he right or wrong and how much.
4) What do you think of Al Qaeda, How to face the looming threat.

Cheers, I am going for drink. Will write my opinion tomorrow.

Brad, you really are full of it!
I think you just want the attention or you are so lonely that you just want to chat! if so, then at least try to sound a little more inteligent! I assume you are older than 16?
What is this "we are ...", this is not a football match that you support your team you sad person!
Oh, I liked your insertion of India in your list, makes your list sound global! NOT!
Are you sure you didn't mean Australia?
Go watch some Fox news, I am sure they will continue to inform you!

belorus m wrote:

"Hail, Brad. Did you read M a i n K u m p f? I suggest you to read. "Perfect" book. There are a lot of "It will solve the problem forever", "no-holds-barred", "no guilt complex", "no apologies", "objective decision making", "clear thinking" and so on. Actually these kind of ideas is denied in USA as I know. Nazi rhetoric prosecuted in Europe. If you wanna to jail continue like that and you will be there."
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Dont try to lump my genuine concern by declaring me Nazi. I have no sympathy with Nazi's and dont approve any of there actions. They did very bad things which have no logic behind it.

Also i am not denying holocaust, it is ahmedinijad who is denying holocaust, it is ahmedinijad who is threatening to wipe off Israel. Guess who is Nazi?? Also guess who is giving Nazi salutes.

My message is simple. When we know we are fighting terrorists, there is no point in delaying the action. If i were president i would act swiftly and with determination.

Now take a scenerio where those jihadists get the N-bomb, make a wild guess where they will drop it.

1. US
2. Israel
3. India
4. UK
5. Canada

now mr/miss belorus m, be careful before you accuse more, it is you who is a pro-Nazi.

JWB and Dick Cheney must be thrilled by such bellicose rhetoric. The rest of us should be horrified.
Governments that have nuclear weapons of their own are in no position to tell others they should not acquire them.
One of the core tenets of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT), which has been in force now for 37 years, was that the five confirmed nuclear powers - Britain, France, the US, the Soviet Union and China - would undertake disarmament.

There may well be a sound logic behind this action. Yet it would have a lot more credibility if the EU and US had been equally tough in taking Israel to task over its clandestine nuclear programme.
The latest imprisonment of Mordechai Vanunu, the nuclear technician who had previously been jailed for 18 years after alerting the British media to Israel's weapons-making activities in 1986. Vanunu was sentenced to another six months behind bars in July for the grave offence of talking to foreigners.
Vanunu worked in Dimona, a plant in the Negev desert.
You might like to know that it was a French company - St Gobain Techniques - that supplied Israel with the technology needed to extract weapons-grade plutonium from reactor fuel.

In 1996, the international court of justice ruled that nuclear weapons are "contrary to the rules of international law".
This ruling was defied by Tony Blair last year when he pushed ahead with plans to buy a new generation of Trident submarines.
The fact is that Israel has tacitly been rewarded for its efforts.

From 1945 to 2005, the United States attempted to overthrow 50 governments, many of them democracies, and to crush 30 popular movements fighting tyrannical regimes. In the process, 25 countries were bombed, causing the loss of several million lives and the despair of millions more.

How is it possible that those who make war, drop bombs, make thousands of nuclear arms, torture in their jails, and wiretap--that is to say, the biggest violators of human rights in the world--can try and impose their model on everyone else?

Has Iran followed a policy of ignoring the UN for 30 years while they occupy an area that (according to the vast majority of sovereign countries) belongs to the indigenous people?

No.

Does Iran have a record of preemptive war on 6 continents, massive, regionally-destabilizing covert activities, coup d'etats, and an archipelago of concentration camps spread across the globe?

No.

Has Iran done anything that would indicate that it would use a nuclear weapon against a civilian population like the United States did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

No.

The real issue with Iran is that its leaders have shown the temerity to control their own resources, which the corporate globalists and Washington plutocrats claim as their own.

And what does every nation, it would appear, want for Christmas, Winter Solstice, Hannukah, Kwanza, Epiphany...?

Nukes!!

America has enough for every nation - this year let us give the gift that keeps on giving!

Posted by: The Rev

And what does every nation, it would appear, want for Christmas, Winster Solstice, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, Epiphany...?

Nukes!!

America has enough for every nation - this year let us give the gift that keeps on giving!

Oh it looks like Egypt and Saudi Arabia are now talking about starting a nuclear program to offset Iran's ambitions. Mr. Arkin you're a real genious; not! I especially love your argument that the U.S. should do nothing about Iran's desire to develop nuclear weapons and that we shouldn't really worry about Iran going nuclear, because the U.S. will probably take them out anyway because of its preemptive tendencies; wow that's brilliant logic!!

Mr. Arkin,
The underlying assumption in your article is that Bush is looking for a way to solve a problem!
Lets be clear here. There is no risk or issue with Iran, there never was. What problem there is with Iran is internal to that country.
This is the case of propaganda running riots in the west in creating this self-fulfilling prophecy!
The underlying issue is that Bush and his gang set out back in 2001 to take control of the world's oil, use the American weapons and bomb a few countries in the middle east, including Iran.
Now, everything else since then is a mere means to that end, whatever it maybe, including references to World War III, use of Nuclear bombs by America or killing of millions of innocent people. Bush does not care and all this matter not one jot to him! why should he? When this is 100% compatible with the current American value system!

Nuts!

We're the ones who have threatened Iran with nuclear weapons, not vice versa.
We're the danger.

Amen hass:

We are the real threat! Amd we are a threat to every nation on Earth that will not acquiesce to American dictates, (particularly when the take-what-you want Republican warhawks are in power)!

And if there are extraterrestrials out there, someone should warn them that the Americans are coming!

Brad, Brad, Brad... You use phrases like "World War III" because they make you feel all strong and manly. But you have no idea what "World War III" means. You just can't conceptualise it, can you? But it sure feels good to write it, eh? It's the magic bullet that will solve everything.

How's about this -- don't write about something unless you can understand it. The trouble is, you don't understand that you don't understand. Does that sound like former Secretary of Defense (and future defendant in an international crimes against humanity trial defendant) Ronald Dumsfeld? So you, and people like you, will continue to spout empty rhetoric. But those of us who do know, will know all about you.

Sad thing is, the Rethuglican Party is only interested in appealing to people of your mindset. Luckily, you are a minority in America. That is why Giuliani -- you better hope he's not elected, because your ilk will NEVER learn to spell his name -- and the Repiglicans will be eliminated from even a pretence of power in 2008. Even KKKarl Rove can't cheat enough to make the next one close, son.

wow ... brad, you and your kind scare me ... just what, exactly, gives you the right (as an american) to decide who and what needs to be attacked ... and this is the real issue, for me; the idea of 'american strategic interests' ... as if your 'interests' are any more important or relevant than anyone else's ... american 'interests' have long been suborned by jewish 'interests' (if you doubt me, look at how the jewish lobby groups fund both federal political parties) in order to permit the eradication of the palestinian race by Israel ... if anyone needs to be interfered with, it is Israel, not Iran ... and as a canadian, i am scared of my southern neighbours ... i wonder what evils the americans will attribute to us so they can come and take our water ...

If Iran got the bomb its unlikely they would use it to attack Israel (mutually assured destruction).

Considering how important the middle east oil is, its likely that the US and Iranian intrests will continue to be at loggerheads. Much like WW1 and WW2 it only needs a minor event to ignite the inferno.
Scenario:
->The next time someone in Europe publishes a cartoon of their prophet some terrorists bomb a bus. Its later discovered that the terrorists were backed by a now nuclear armed "Iran". They west will have to respond...

By the way, Get through your thick skulls... Anti Israeli policies does not equal anti Jew.

I suggest the pro Israel people stop threatening the Persians. Do you think for a second Iran is like Iraq or Afghanistan? By the time we went into Iraq they had no weapons, and I dont need to talk about Afgh. Anyone who knows anything knows if there was an attack on Iran, israel would indeed be "wiped out from the map". Then and only then. So hold on to your seats. By the way, Iran is not anti jewish. There are Jewish members of congress in Iran. You ignorant B##@@!!

Hail, Brad. Did you read M a i n K u m p f? I suggest you to read. "Perfect" book. There are a lot of "It will solve the problem forever", "no-holds-barred", "no guilt complex", "no apologies", "objective decision making", "clear thinking" and so on. Actually these kind of ideas is denied in USA as I know. Nazi rhetoric prosecuted in Europe. If you wanna to jail continue like that and you will be there.

Hail, Brad.
Did you read Main Kumpf? I suggest you to read. "Perfect" book. There are a lot of "It will solve the problem forever", "no-holds-barred war 3",
"no guilt complex", "no apologies", "objective decision making", "clear thinking" and so on. Actually these kind of ideas is denied in USA as I know. Nazi rhetoric prosecuted in Europe. If you wanna to jail continue like that and you will be there.

Hail, Brad.
Did you read Main Kumpf? I suggest you to read. "Perfect" book. There are a lot of "It will solve the problem forever", "no-holds-barred war 3",
"no guilt complex", "no apologies", "objective decision making", "clear thinking" and so on. Actually these kind of ideas is denied in USA as I know. Nazi rhetoric prosecuted in Europe. If you wanna to jail continue like that and you will be there.

Hail, Brad.
Did you read Main Kumpf? I suggest you to read. "Perfect" book. There are a lot of "It will solve the problem forever", "no-holds-barred war 3",
"no guilt complex", "no apologies", "objective decision making", "clear thinking" and so on. Actually these kind of ideas is denied in USA as I know. Nazi rhetoric prosecuted in Europe. If you wanna to jail continue like that and you will be there.

Iran does not want a nuclear bomb just nuclear energy, why it is so hard to understand. Iran is a member of NPT club, club membership requires help and asistence not threat and nuclear weapons bombs. IAEA has robust check on all iran facility, and Iran has come clean and few question remaiing and everyone is confident that it will be resolved. Last NOn allighned conference with 60 member country is supporting Iran on nuclear energy right. American people will not go for this lie, I hope so.

ladies, hold your panties, I never said we are going to kill innocent children/women/men (1 or 50 million). Dont put words in my mouth.

I offered solution where we can get rid of extremists. Solution is WW-3.

The government in those country is in bed with terrorists. Iranians are threatening to bomb other countries and it will be shame if we keep watching and let them nuke innocent people.

"Thou shalt not kill"
That does not mean we wont defend ourself. Jihadists started this fight and lets finish this.....we know damn well how to shoot!

Also note that Hillary has voted for the bill that let us sanction (potentially attack) Iran. So she is not very disappointing either.

Please dont take my comments out of context.
Cheers

Hey Brad,
I wonder if you'll still feel that way after your home town and your family lay in a radioactive grave. It's one thing to attack the helpless. Not the same when they have their own nukes. Do the world a favor and shut up. On the other hand, keep raving like a lunatic. Every word you speak helps put a democrat in the white house!

So Brad, how would this World War III play out? Let's hear your wet dream of mass murder. What weapons would the Forces of Freedom attack with? How many people should be killed in this World War III? Should every single person in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia be killed? How could you be sure you killed everyone? Do you have any estimate on how many people that involves? (Hint: it's about 50 times more than the number of Jews Hitler killed. Is that your final solution?) Should the Christians and Hindus and atheists in those countries be killed too? If you are too weak to advocate killing EVERY SINGLE PERSON in those countries, how many do you think should be killed to produce the desired results?

And what are the desired results? If you kill all the people, who's going to do the work on th oil rigs? If you kill them with nuclear weapons, how is anyone going to get oil from a glowing radioactive death zone? Do you want to work on those radioactive rigs?

What is the rest of the world going to be doing during this World War III you and Rudy Giuliani are so hot for? (Can you spell Giuliani without looking at what I just wrote?) Are Russia and China and the European countries just going to sit back and say "Whoa! The Forces of Freedom are killing millions of people in countries that are right on our borders. We'd better pretend we don't notice." Suppose the people in Iran and Afghanistan try to run across he border so they don't get killed? Should the Forces of Freedom go into Russia and China to kill people there? I mean, they ARE bad people who deserve killing in World War III.

Mate, there's so many questions like this. Because you're so keen to share your awesome strategic vision for World War III with us, I'd appreciate it if you'd expound on some of the ramifications.

And one more thing. Are you a Christian? What do you think Jesus would think of a World War III that would kill a lot of women and little tiny children who never did any terrorist things? Would He be OK with that?

Attacking Iran is in best interest of Humanity. Before its too late and Mullahs get finger on Nukes, we gotta stop them. Also lately Syria is making too much noises. The best way in my humble opinion is third world war. It will solve the problem forever.

Bush has become subtle, i still have faith in him. If anyone can pull out third war effectively thats him or rudy.

Vote for Rudy :--
1) no-holds-barred war 3
2) no guilt complex
3) no apologies
4) objective decision making
5) clear thinking

and democrats thinking:
1) lets make peace with terrorists
2) full of guilty complex
3) apologise even for defending the nation
4) clawns of powerful interest groups
5) cant figure out who is enemy and who is friend
6) all words and absolutely no action

My pick for world war 3, attack these
1) Iran
2) Syria
3) Saudi Arabia
4) Pakistan
5) Iraq, a bit more
6) Afghanistan, a lot more

Thanks Buffalo for sharing, you and I are the same age, my father died when I was 17. I'm saving the rest for the book :)

Sorry,...when I wrote my comment about Iran, I did not know until after I read the comments that I was reading "THE FAR RIGHT"
Has it not been in the passed,and in the case of all war's and conflict's,that it is The Government's that send us to war.
If you have never worn a uniform then it is probably hard for you to understand.
I do know one thing,it is because of the leader's of Democratic Countries that make these decision's that allow us to be able to write these comment's.
Yes I do understand that you should be able to talk to people that truly want love and peace.
We should also need to understand that people that have no value of love or life,are the same people that do not want peace.
The more babies,mother's,innocent people they can kill,.the quicker they go to their heaven.
Maybe, just maybe,someday when love,respect in general,have greater value,
we can all set down and make peace with each other.Until such a time takes place, we will alway's be worried about countries like North Korea and Iran."SUCH A PITTY"

I feel that it is important to keep clothes neat a clean. Therefore, it is MANDATORY to iran all garments, AT LEAST TWICE A DAY. So, that fact that some person is "stuck" on iran, should not be cause for alarm. He or she is merely being a GOOD CITIZEN!!! Thank-you.

To Brad:
Spoken like a true crusader! A first century mind in a 21'st century world.

Thank you for bringing a clear perspective through the belicose and imaginative commentary arising from the Decider and his merry band as well as that of the Iranian Pres. and his band of mery Mullahs....
Our President and his supporters have been so out of phase with what is going on in the real world that one has to question who is writing the playbook and why.
Apparently nobody in the Administration was paying attention to history or ethics or anything else that might demonstrate a leadership with our best interests in mind.
Secret prisons, rendition, over-riding legal opinions on torture, etc.. And do you really think that those "misguided nukes" that turned up at Barksdale- a prime staging area for the wars was really an "error". I am certain as I am sitting here that Cheney, who currently controls the US nuke arsenal, planned to use those weapons on Iran.

Nevermind the speculation, there are many real and troubling incidents and commentary that leave me highly dubious of Administrations assertions on virtually anything that it decides to make a comment about.

The last thing this administration needs to focus on is an Iran that might have nuclear capabilities long after the President and his goon squad have left office. There are far more important and current things like being accountable for the decisions that were already made - and clearly the administration is not about to be held accountable to anything it decides to do. The Decider can decide and then we can "go f***" ourselves if we think that he needs to justify or account for those decisions.
So many examples, so little space. We don't need to be saved from Iran, we need to be saved from this Administrations incompetence or greed or whatever is driving it.
When will America demand that Israel account for its illegal and undeclared nuclear arsenal. When will America demand that Israel comply with even a single UN resolution?
As long as we are viewed as hypocrits we will have no credibility in the ME. As long as we claim to value freedom and human rights while we torture, secretly imprison, deny the standards of international decency like the Geneva Convention and the International Criminal Court, conduct war and destabilization to benefit our corporations like Halliburton and others, etc... we will never be safe regardless of what we think we have negotiated.
You would think that such a great and brilliant businessman, orator, military man and leader as our President and his equally talented and experienced administration would understand that.

Bush should back is rhetoric with action, lot of words but no action. I believe this is the time for World War 3. It is important to destoy all those jihadists.

To Tony:

You must be 1 of the 30% who still are blind and still believe in the Neo Conservatives led by Bush and Corruption, but what would I expect from some boot licking Neo Conservative.

If you threaten me and you're holding a stick, I'll pick up a stick myself. If you threaten me and you're holding a gun, I'll pick up a gun myself. And if you threaten me and you're holding a bunch of nukes...
We've invaded 2 Middle East countries. If you were Iran, (or any other Middle East country), what would you be trying to pick up? Remember, the United States is the only country that has ever used atomic weapons. And we used them against a civilian population when the war was effectively over. Why should anybody, (especially in the Middle East), think we wouldn't do it again? Sorry, but I don't think I could blame Iran for trying to find some. If Iraq had had them, we wouldn't be there today. We wouldn't have dared! You don't see us running off to invade Pakistan, do you? We don't dare!

I don't always agree with Arkin, but he's on the dime, this time: we're in huge trouble in Pakistan, and the nuclear threat is real and present.

It's frightening how the Iranian boogyman gets so much attention, when the specter of a atom bomb on the loose in pakistan is so real.

Wow, we really do have a bunch of liberal Bush bashers here! Do you really think Iran needs to start a war in order to proliferate nuclear weapons? Have you ever heard of Islamic Jihad, Al-Qeda, Hamas, etc.? Ama-nutjob would be more than willing to let any one of the groups to do his bidding.
As far as no 9/11 connection between Iraq and Al-Qeda, I think a few of you appeasers are in denial. Muhammad Atta was meeting and being trained by Abu Nadil--at Iraqi sponsered terrorist training camps-- right in Baghdad Iraq.
Wake up!!

The article written by W M Arkin is very accurate and reflection of real factson the ground.
Well written Mr Arkin.

A short eulogy for my father:

My father passed away recently.

An 81 year old American Cold Warrior and Zionist Jew.

I feel as if I've spent a large portion of my life (from 14 - now 54) attempting to ameliorate the damage to American and global society that I feel his world view had caused. It's OK, I wasn't that busy anyway. It was, in some way, a labor of love. He felt he was doing the right thing for his society, not for himself, and all respect is due him for being true to his beliefs.

But for what it's worth, the last time I spoke with him... (a World War 2 veteran officer (A Jewish Colonel during WWII !), who went on to a career in Military 'Intelligence', a NASA project coordinator, and later, regional coordinator for the ADL in the Southern U.S.... registered as an 'agent of a foreign government' (Israel) ...he told me that the current administration was the biggest bunch of crooks that he'd seen in his whole life (...and I alway thought Richard Nixon was 'The One') and that overall, U.S. Middle East policy was... well, I won't use that language here.

Unfortunately, by the time he figured all of that out, that the 'powers-that-be' don't play cards with a full deck, that it's 'stacked' and 'marked', and they lie as well as cheat, he was too old to do anything about it.

There's a moral there...

Parents, teach your children. Everyone else, educate the young people you know, to THOROUGHLY QUESTION EVERY bit of information received from your government (any government!) no matter the 'officiousness' of the source or repetitious parroting by the media.

It is your patriotic duty, no matter your nation of origin.

Because patriotism is owed to your country and it's founding precepts.

NOT it's administrators.

And if we teach the young to question authority and the information those 'authorities' promulgate, that seems to be illegitimate or insensible nonsense in the eyes of our young, maybe, just maybe, they WON'T be too old to change things when it finally all 'gels' that they are being led down some primrose path paved with lies and deception.

The idiot of a President by the name of George Walker Bush along with Vice President Deferrment Dickless Cheney need to be removed from office and be sent for psychological evaluations. These pair of idiots are more than likely to start another War prior to leaving office and destroy the reputation of the United States around the World more so than what it is already.

The only idiot who keeps talking about World War III is the one who wants it to happen...

Having the peaceful nuclear energy hence having the knowledge of building the bomb takes away the importance of possession and helps the destruction of such weapons

In America we must learn that if there is no sex involved, then there is no crime.

BUSh slogan:

Bush, the only president that brings the rapture closer to home.

"...he warned last month that a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to the ultimate conflagration."

Well it could... If he keeps rattling sabers in their direction. But guess who'll start it considering that Iran doesn't even HAVE a nuclear weapon...

He's warning us about his own policies as much as a 'wet drunk' pleads for help without mentioning that the help needed is to quit drinking.

Key words here are about how Iran has not attacked another country in over 200 years.
It's funny how demonized they get.
This article is one of the best writtenn simple policy opinions on Iran i've read on the subject and i only hope the voices of sense prevail in the US across the board x

The Repulican strategy to win the past election was that "WE MAY BE OVERRUNED by TERRORIST! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE UNLESS..." you know the rest. This next election's campaign strategy is WE ARE AT WAR for our survival... yada..yada..yada. Their strategy is that "Only Republicans" know how to keep Americans and their defenseless families from being incinerated from the detonation of a nuclear device while they sleep in their beds. A very sick and twisted strategy indeed.

King George's banter of WW 3 is choreographed to produce the maximum effect. Somehow, all the King's horses are trying to keep the war effort going. We need a fresher, cleaner threat now that Iraq's cat is out of the bag and all of a sudden all the reasons we stated to go to war with them have been disproven. In reality, other major powers pose a much greater threat, but they can't be bullied. They are big and strong and have REAL nuclear weapons. So we pick on the little guy to use as an excuse to keep the war machine going. Oil was $29 a barrel when Bush came to power now were trying to hold the line at $100. Also, the nation's treasury is being pillaged by all the wasted in weapons, contractors, rebuilding, and payoffs among other things. All we need now is an informant to state unequivically that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. That really shouldn't be too hard. Remember "Curveball." And before you know it, we've got ourselves another war! I think we should call him "Slider." Of course our infallible interrogation techniques should do well here. After all "the U.S. does not torture," we stop right before organ failure sets in. And we make sure we get "actionable intelligence" like the cartoons we showed at the U.N. showing mobile germ warfare labs and such things. Anyway, how much have we spent on Iraq? Well with Iran maybe I need to review my 3 times table.

Are we really certain that Iranians are trying to build a bomb?
Could it be possible that maybe they are trying to obtain nuclear energy for civil purposes?
And if they do want the bomb, do they intend to use it on another country such as Israel? Or is it just a political power they are trying to get by obtaining the bomb?
More over, are they stupid to use a nuclear bomb on Israel when they know that Israel and Americans have thousands of them?
Could it be that maybe American and Israel governments do not want Iranians to grow and advance their technologies? So that they would be dependent to west.
Everyone know that Ahmadinejad is representing a country ruled by religious dictators and he has no saying on important matters, he is simply a follower even though he is the president.
It appears that Bush is also wearing the same shoes and follows AIPAC instructions on foreign polocies. One would wonder was is the difference between us and them?
We claim that we are living in a democratic society but I don't think this is true.
Humanity is still struggling with social and national problems and we have no solution for them yet. I wouldn't count on the mind set we have at this point that our civilization, namely "democracy" is either truely democratic or is it at flaws.

The general consensus among most of the world's independent authorities is that Iran is 3-8 years away from a nuclear weapon, should it chose to build one. Specifically:

- A 2005 assessment by the International Institute for Strategic Studies concluded "if Iran threw caution to the wind, and sought a nuclear weapon apability as quickly as possible without regard for international reaction, it might be able to produce enough HEU for a single nuclear weapon by the end of this decade", assuming no technical problems. More plausible development programmes Iran could choose to follow would take over a decade.

- A 2005 US National Intelligence Estimate stated that Iran was ten years from making a nuclear weapon.

- In 2006 Ernst Uhrlau, the head of German intelligence service, said Tehran would not be able to produce enough material for a nuclear bomb before 2010 and would only be able to make it into a weapon by about 2015.

- A 2007 annual review the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London stated that "If and when Iran does have 3,000 centrifuges operating smoothly, the IISS estimates it would take an additional 9-11 months to produce 25 kg of highly enriched uranium, enough for one implosion-type weapon. That day is still 2-3 years away at the earliest."

- The head of the IAEA Mohamed ElBaradei said on 24 May 2007 that Iran could take between 3 and 8 years to make a bomb if it went down that route.

- The 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate is said to state that Iran will not be able to build a nuclear bomb until at least 2010 and possibly 2015.

- On 22 October 2007, Mohamed ElBaradei repeated that, even assuming Iran was trying to develop a nuclear bomb, they would require "between another three and eight years to succeed", an assessment shared by "all the intelligence services".

Although Bush's allusion to WWIII is unfortunate, his sentiment may be more on the mark than most give him credit.
1) After all, isn't Israel nuclear-armed? 2) And as near as I can tell, the message from Iran regarding Isreal is pretty unambiguous. (Despite what Fareed Zakaria says about Iran's intentions. After all, his conclusions are based on past and current Mid-East dynamics. Almost certainly those dynamics would change should Iran become nuclear-armed.)
3) If unchecked, and Iran allowed to develop a nuclear weapon capability (assuming they want to, of course - which they deny), isn't a nuclear exchange between Isreal and Iran conceivable?
4) And couldn't that exchange, no matter how limited, act as a irreversable catalyst fueling hostilities now between religious extremists/extemist-controlled states and US-aligned nations?

And so I tend to agree with President Bush when he says "Now is the time to move."

The debate should not be about whether we should make any moves at all, but rather what moves (or series of moves) should be made.

In determining that sequence of moves, the "big stick" threat should never be off the table. That said, IMHO, "walk softly" should take precedence in the rhetoric and discussion by our national leaders.

We're the ones who have threatened Iran with nuclear weapons, not vice versa.
We're the danger.

Basically Iraq and Saddam balanced the power struggle in the middle east and kept the Iranians, with whom we have a very bad relationship--and subseqently can't "buy off" or control--from taking over the middle east and possibly using their control of the oil supply to hold the world hostage. This would be a very bad situation. However, it would not have been a possibility if we had not destroyed Iraq, the only counter-balance to their mid-eastern influence. Now we are in the process of arming all the Mid-eastern states, who have been complacent lap dogs in the face of a warped American foreign policy, with billions of dollers in military aid to counter the Iranian influence. Yes, it appears that we are indeed trying to start World War III--and it is quite astounding that our president so irresponsibly uses such overblown rhetoric with such insensitivity. These are not words to be thrown around carelessly. He talks as if World War III is the trade off for the Iranians not obtaining nuclear weapons. Well, in that case, rather than reinstituting the draft, militerizing our economy, and killing another 40 to 60 million people, I'll take a nuclear Iran!

A Pilot That doesn't know how to land the plane:

Now where have we heard that before? American citizens are once again being held captive on a jumbo jet that is being piloted by a novice, who never had any training - particularly - learning how and when to land an aircraft.

This pilot, #43, only wanted to fly the plane!

And that is why America and American foreign policy keeps crashing into buildings, and regrettably with the captive American citizens aboard!

Bush is cynically winding up the gullible American public with macho talk against Iran. Another scare tactic a la Carl Rove. The big lie. Keep the American public afraid amd pumped up on "the war on terror" and they will overlook the incompetence of this administration and its assault on the constitution. Fortunately with the economy about to tank, "national security" is about to be trumped and the Democrats will sweep in 2008.

If it ain't broke - don't fix it:

In other words repeating stupid, hyperbolic and weak statements has worked tremendously for the Bush Administration over the past 7-years; just ask Dick Cheney whether that is true or not?

If you keep repeating something long enough, Republicans will believe it!

Problem resolution requires that one clearly states the problem that he or she is trying to solve. The solution to the problem is often imbedded, within the question itself. The administration has always been in denial about 'the real problem'; it has never been clearly stated.

So I will say what Obama was rebuffed for saying some time ago: Many Americans lives have been needlessly lost, given the policies of #43's bereft administration.

I wonder whether or not he was a good cheerleader or not? I would bet that he often dropped the baton!

America is more in peril now than it ever was - it would seem!

Bush knows that Iran does not have and cannot have nuclear weapons for many years. It will not be able to develop a delivery system that would penetrate US, Western and neighbouring defence shields.

Bush treats his erroneous presumptions as fact. That is dangerous. He made horrendous mistakes about Iraq before invading that country. There were no WMD, no nuclear program and no alignment with Al Qaeda. Nowadys, he is widely regarded as a liar.

The evidence suggests that he creates 'evidence' to allow himself to drop bombs.

If anyone will cause WWIII it will be Bush and the USa. Unfortunately, the USA's power is not checked by that of Europe, Russia, India and China. Hence, when a crazy man becomes President he can feel free to use force when and where he likes regardless of the evidence.

Before Bush invaded Iraq Al Qaeda was not in that country. He has caused so much instability in the Middle East that one must wonder if he is trying to turn it into a powder keg.