The War in Pakistan: Mission Being Accomplished?

Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's plea for American forbearance today comes at the very moment when those who represent the newly elected government are suggesting a less confrontational approach to Islamic militancy in the border regions.

The fear that Pakistan may restrict American freedoms to operate against al Qaeda in the country has provoked a front-page article in the New York Times, one of those leaky articles that itself suggests worry on the part of American officials that the war against terrorism will be undermined because of the political hesitations and weaknesses of others. The article gives new details on the newly granted "rules of engagement," and leaves the impression that more Pakistani control over the American trigger will surely undermine our security.

I'm not faulting the reporters. But describing "secret strikes" and how they might be "curtailed" misses an important point: When it comes to counter-terrorism, how central is the head-hunting "strike" mission to a successful campaign?

Ever since the words "actionable intelligence" became a part of the common lexicon after 9/11, enormous resources have been plowed into finding, tracking and killing "high value targets" in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia and elsewhere. A list of such targets, from Osama bin Laden on down, literally exists in all theaters of operations, both for al Qaeda Central and the various affiliates that exist within the international and local terrorist networks.

As we saw in the killing of Hezbollah military leader Imad Mughniyah in Syria, the Israelis (and some our other allies willing to use lethal force) have their own lists and capabilities. There is a lot of international cooperation here at the most secret levels, and within the U.S. government, where the president himself often holds the authority to approve a strike, there is no higher intelligence priority. The CIA shooters, together with their brethren in the "black" U.S. special operations forces, work in parallel commands to the "conventional" military forces with their own collection assets and "fusion" centers and even their own dedicated weapons, focused almost exclusively on this lethal action.

After years of diversion of resources and attention in Iraq, after years of the United States deferring to Musharraf, and after years of just organizing itself, the consensus in the "interagency" and among experts in the field is that the tribal border areas of Pakistan, and Pakistan itself, represent the world's most dangerous terrorist breeding and training ground. The situation became so grave in 2006, not only because of the way in which the Pakistani "sanctuary" was undermining U.S. efforts in Afghanistan but also with new intelligence that showed a regeneration of al Qaeda, that even the Iraq-myopic Bush team was convinced that it needed to refocus its attention.

Now the domestic changes unfolding in Democratic Pakistan worry U.S. officials: the "new" operations and the "far more aggressive strategy" and the new arrangements arm twisted out of Musharraf could be curtailed. It isn't at all clear that the new political coalition in Pakistan will actually restrict what is going on (or will be willing to challenge the Pakistani military at a time when it is just attempting to govern), and there is always the prospect that for domestic consumption, the new leaders will say one thing and do another. So the jury's still out.

Oh, there have been successes in the head-hunting mission, as the recent killing of senior al Qaeda commander Abu Laith al-Libi in northwest Pakistan (and the Hezbollah leader in Syria) demonstrate. But not only do the main prizes still remain at large, but no one is particularly asserting that al Qaeda or Hezbollah is substantially weakened by these successes. In fact, one could just as much argue that stimuli that is created by missiles falling from the sky or car bombs on the streets of Damascus work as much to motivate and recruit new terrorists to fight. A head-hunting effort, because it is often so without context and so secretive, can also have a rally-round-the-flag effect for our enemies.

Few in the world of secret operations question the value of what they are doing. If anything they point to all the other efforts -- political, economic, development, social, propaganda -- and ask, not without reason, where the other "national" actors are who are supposed to be doing their part to drain the swamps and get at the root causes.

No doubt a new cavalcade of American officials will sojourn to Pakistan now to "preserve" the hard won authorities and work like mad to keep the lethal game on track and improve the capacity to go after the bad guys. Politicians and candidates here at home will undoubtedly argue that Pakistan get out of our way, or at least that it not pull the plug on the new joint effort. Lost in the shuffle of preserving what appears to be a central element of the counter-terrorism war is the question as to whether the proposition is valid in the first place.

By William M. Arkin |  February 22, 2008; 9:25 AM ET Pakistan , War on Terrorism
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To me America is passing through a very critical phase of its History....It is the worst leadership they are having now...The end result is no secret.... American has given up their support and love for democracy and humanity. I am afraid history will remember Bush Administration only as an initiating agent of down fall for American civilization. The Afghan and Pakistan Policy is an absolute failure for Americans. America can fight and destroy its opponents because it has a huge military and financial power but it can't win the war because America lacks the moral powers. It is the lesson of History that no war can be won without solid moral grounds. I am afraid Americans are missing this ground and it is a misfortune not only for America but for whole of the world.

Being an ordinary Pakistani it is painful for me that America is responsible for dictatorial role in my country. People of my country also need justice and freedom of expression and they dislike the American support for autocratic role of governance. The double standards of American policy makers has made the country an icon of cruelty and hatred among ordinary masses of Pakistan

Posted by: khaqan | March 12, 2008 8:22 AM

The Rev is a loud-mouthed idiot! He says with exclamation marks what most people wouldn't mutter to their dogs!

The Rev

Clearly, your dog has to be more erudite than you! Bow wow!!

Posted by: | February 25, 2008 5:43 PM

Hey Rev:
If you had been watching the stock market over the last few months...

Posted by: Plainfacto

Why would you assume that I have not been
watching the stock market, in addition to keeping an eye on the actions of the Fed to lower interest rates. Has Libor followed suit?

For the reasons that you mentioned and more that is why the world needs a global economy that is is not tethered to the
rise or fall of the U.S. economy, and greedy American capitalists.

Come on Plainfacto, you know that America manipulates the world economy, even the
WTO has chastised America for some of its
cannibalistic economic practices.

The U.S.A. ought to focus on helping to build a genuine world economy, not the one that is in place now that is there to benefit the U.S.A. at everyone elses expense.

Study your history and you will find that America actually built economies in other nations of the world with one purpose in mind, to create markets for the U.S.A. Its extending of trade, aid, credits and markets where not as altruistic as they seemed on the service.

We didn't give a darn about the impact of building strip mining economies in other nations and what impact it would have on oother incumbent nations of the world.

For years business ethics were not taught in American institutions of higher learning, and when it was taught, it was a watered down version. Ergo, we have continued in our current predatory, me first, practices.

Americans are selfish, and that is why the majority of the world is p'd all at the U.S.A.! Greed, greed, greed... is the problem!

Posted by: The Rev | February 25, 2008 5:41 PM

I haven't seen the script on Kosovo yet. I wonder when people will wake up and say enough is enough!

Posted by: Duke | February 25, 2008 10:04 AM

The Rev is a loud-mouthed idiot! He says with exclamation marks what most people wouldn't mutter to their dogs! He is drowning out more enlightened discourse! He is like a shining beacon of ignorance and stupidity!

Posted by: The Rev | February 25, 2008 8:57 AM

Arkin makes a valid and troubling point: to what extent do these operations advance American interests; to what extent are they exercises in brutal self-delusion that undermines our capacity to fight and win the battles we need to win?

Posted by: al75 | February 25, 2008 4:55 AM

//It would appear that to an American majority, that whether a proposition is valid or not is a nonsequitur, where America is concerned. The attitude of some Americans appears to be, America first and all else be damned!\\

Hey Rev:
If you had been watching the stock market over the last few months, you would have noticed that when the US stock market took a tumble, many other stock markets from many other countries took huge dives. How can it be 'we first' when so many others are dependant upon us for trade?

As far as defense is concerned, we would be pitiful if we didn't put us first - along with our closest political and business partners! We have a symbionic relationship with many countries that are mutually benificial.
Or - throw away your iPod!

What do you think Arkins next gripe is going to be? Maybe the recent Turk-Kurd conflict and the US allowing the Turks to take care of business? Maybe...

Posted by: Plainfacto | February 24, 2008 9:29 PM

... a central element of the counter-terrorism war is the question as to whether the proposition is valid in the first place.

Mr. Arkin,

It would appear that to an American majority, that whether a proposition is valid or not is a nonsequitur, where America is concerned. The attitude of some Americans appears to be, America first and all else be damned!

Similar to the actions taken in Iraq, America has zero intentions of respecting the sovereignty of the nation of Pakistan, or collaborating with its people before the fact, and discuss a unified course of action or inaction.

The existing borders of disparate nations of the world are forever open for the U.S.A. to come in at will, and to force its own sense of American justice upon any nation or people of the world whether they like it or not!

Can you imagine how America will behave once it has upgraded to its next level of weapons superiority over all other nations of the world?

Posted by: The Rev | February 24, 2008 8:35 PM

American policy in Pakistan is defunct. America is in denial that the cold war is now over their former cold war ally Pakistan does not share an interest in fighting a war against Islamic terrorism. Consequently dubious Generals like Musharraf at a tangent with their people have consumed American treasure and played a double game to appease their peoples' Islamic values and Americas war on terrorism. The result is that they are now running for their lives and the people who have now come to power are unlikely to hand over Bin Laden on a plate. The American foreign policy in Pakistan has run out of ideas and is attempting to flog their cold war contacts - which can no longer deliver. America has to understand that it does not have an ally in the country of Pakistan and it cannot rely on the verbal assurances of its leaders. It has to come up with fresh ideas of its own to further our interests in the region with or without Pakistan. One such idea is - "we will bomb the tribal areas till either produces oil or Osama bin laden." second - "take charge of the nuclear arsenal before the terrorists do"

Try these - they will work - Barbarians understand the language of the gun not of diplomacy. If America waits - the next leader of Pakistan will be a Mullah. At that point - terrorists will have the bomb.

Posted by: General | February 24, 2008 8:30 PM

Following Arkin's logic: the gang-war strategy of anti-terrorism seems like it can only work to improve Darwinian fitness. Short of an infeasible level of mass murder, we can't achieve the desired effect. But we can multiply their numbers and weed out the less competent.

Is this what they call 'blowback'?

Posted by: tantalus | February 24, 2008 5:37 AM

Here's the Peters' link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Peters

Check out the maps, the border changes he suggested are tribally oriented.

PS: Nice link Hawk58.
I don't belive the Kurdistan map Peters suggests would be feasable; I'm pretty sure that Turkey wouldn't agree to a loss of territory. The Kurds will never take the eastern portion of Turkey; the Turks would be unrelenting and settle for either destroying the Kurds or booting them out altogether.

Posted by: Plainfacto | February 24, 2008 5:28 AM

Mr. Arkin,
You ask: "When it comes to counter-terrorism, how central is the head-hunting "strike" mission to a successful campaign?"

The answer is that our actions, while correct, are grossly insufficient.

Al Qaeda is resurgent. Egyptian Abu Khabab Masri is reconstituting al Qaeda CBR(N) capability in the border region of Pakistan. The west seriously underestimates the enemy will "...To kill Americans and their allies, both civil and military, is an individual duty of every Muslim who is able, in any country where this is possible...", UBL 1998.

We are engaged in a war that will be fought on a generational scale. Surveillance, evidence, prosecution, imprisonment and rule of law are tools of law enforcement, and are not suitable for success in the 4GW we find ourselves in. Precision decapitation strikes have failed, targeted assignation has failed.

The military mission is to fight and win the nations wars. A soldier's job is to kill the enemy.

LTC Ralph Peters, USA (Retired) has written eloquently on the value of attrition warfare, "In Praise of Attrition" Parameters Summer 2004. "It's essential to purge our minds of the clichéd images the term "war of attrition" evokes. Certainly, we do not and will not seek wars in which vast casualties are equally distributed between our own forces and the enemy's. But a one-sided war of attrition, enabled by our broad range of superior capabilities, is a strong model for a 21st-century American way of war. "

Posted by: Hawk58 | February 23, 2008 8:35 PM

I say NO to all because Rev is talking about a ravenous system with big teeth and has to walk on four legs! There you go Rev!

Anonymous,

I don't get it?

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"I'm not afraid to ask questions about 9/11"


Congressman Dennis Kucinich revealed that he is initiating an investigation into the insider trading that took place leading up to 9/11, particularly in regards to put options placed on American Airlines and United Airlines stock.

Kucinich said that he had personal questions about the implications insider trading had.

"I've indicated a long-standing interest in gathering information and trying to get to the bottom of exactly what happened with respect to all the stock activity that took place preceding 9/11." Kucinich said.

Kucinich said it was the bizarre record-level put options that caught his attention initially. The odd trades heavily indicate prior knowledge of the September 11 attacks and have raised a number of questions that Kucinich hopes to probe.

"First of all, I'm not afraid to ask questions about 9/11," Kucinich told the Alex Jones Show.

"From my own personal standpoint, I've had long-standing questions about why this volume, why those airlines, why that time, who made the buys, why did they buy them, who told them to make the buys, who was involved? There are questions there that need to be answered as part of an effort to get to the truth," Kucinich said.

He made clear he was not yet pointing the finger. "I don't know what happened. I'm not alleging anything here. But I sure want to find out how it happened."

But Kucinich hopes that inquiries in a committee hearing would clarify the information and answer questions.

"I think we need to talk to the people who were involved in making those transactions in order to try to figure out why they were made, for example, American Airlines and United Airlines stock." Kucinich said.

At least two FBI agents have been previously charged for their smaller roles in the insider trading. The NY Times has reported on the cases, but larger coverage of the issue has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, and no larger probe has been underway until now.

Kucinich has also promised to hold hearings on the health of 9/11 first responders. He has already met with a number of rescue workers to hear their stories and is in the process of bringing forth information to committee.

The Congressman warned, however, that his seat has been hotly contested by 'Cleveland corporate interests' who have sunk millions into defeating Kucinich. He pleaded for help to win his local election, but remained steadfast.

"I can't be bought and I can't be bossed." Kucinich said. "I'm going to keep speaking the truth, I'm going to keep seeking the truth, and as long as people are there to support that, I'll be in Congress."

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Posted by: che | February 23, 2008 3:30 AM

I would sit here and write a smart a_ _ comment but who cares.

Rev wants to know if the U.S. is a required ingrediant for a capitalistic country to flourish and he wants to know if Democracy can stand on its own without capitalism. I say NO to all because Rev is talking about a ravenous system with big teeth and has to walk on four legs! There you go Rev!

Mr. Arkin, good article but you left out the fact that Pakistan is in political turmoil because of the war on terror!

Posted by: | February 22, 2008 11:58 PM

Meadows

I am rather fond of Democratic Socialism myself, that is the missing ingredient to control the greedy capitalist in our nation. It would appear that America is on its way to its own Bolshevik Revolution, if things don't change.

Let me ask you this, given your
excellent treatise. Can you can talk about the interplay between democracy, and what part the economic system of a country plays given the political democratic system in a given country?

As an example, America is a democratic country (actually a Republic) with a capitalist economic system. China has been switching over to a capitalist economy. Will China have to be a democracy before its capitalist economic system will work? It appears to be working just fine?

I don't believe that American style-democracy is right for every other nation of the world, or that it should be forced upon other nations of the world! The poor Palestinians come to mind!

Nations have the right to be tribal, or to have a dictator..., if they want to! We hear about all of the Cubans who don't like Fidel, a true freedom fighter. We rarely here in the west about the numbers of Cubans who love him.

He is not the reason that Cuba is an impoversished country, that distinction goes to the USA - we are responsible for that. How long has that embargo been going on? Its has been going on since I was a kid.

Pakistan's problem, if it has one, is not that it is not a Democracy. Pakistan's problem is that it is simply not obeying the mandates of the United States of America!

I have not heard of any legitimate organization of states that is complaining about Pakistan! Only the USA, and the nations whose arms it twists, are railing against Pakistan!

Posted by: The Rev | February 22, 2008 8:50 PM

a lot of your commenters don't see that people are people...and that countries like Pakistan are not monoliths.

US "aid" may not stop terrorism, and US bombs can't kill all terrorists (too often accidental civilian deaths will make locals mad). But like a dripping faucet that fills a tub, these things do result in slow change.

The anti Bush types forget that Taliban bombs also kill people...and make people mad at them...and that things like peace and improving economic conditions lead to "draining the swamp" so that extremists become marginalized into mere criminal gangs.

I often argue that Iraq is not Viet Nam but Luzon...a similar argument can be made about Pakistan, with the tribal areas being Mindanao.

A successful democratic election will lead to more peace no matter who wins. One hopes, however, that corruption will not lead to another coup.

Posted by: Nancy Reyes | February 22, 2008 8:42 PM

The issue of US Aid is overblown. Right after 911 the American DOD calculated that the war in Afghanistan was costing Pakistan $10 billion a year in lost growth.

Pakistan received about 1 Billion during the first Afgahns war which destroyed the USSR. In the 60s, Korean teams used to come to Pakistan to look at the decade of development and emulate th 5 year and 10 year plan. If the growth of the 60 had contineud Pakistan would have been better off than the Asian tigers.

Pakistan lost a decade fighting the war in Afghantan...and the US Aid did not cover the lost decade.

Right now, the $5 Billion in Aid is pennies on the Dollar. The 600 million per annum aid (the rest is reimbursement for actual expenses incurred)is a lost less than the lost opportunity costs and the instability the war in Afghanistan creates for Pakistan.

America and NATO is losing the war in Afghanistan and Pakistanis are paying the price facing bombs and bombers generated there.

In economic terms, Pakistan has the losing end of the bargain. In social and military terms, Pakistan has lost more soldiers than all o fNATO combined.

The recent elections were a rejection of the continued war in Afghanistan. No amount of money can replace a prime minister or the thousands who have died.

Pakistan wants peace so that it can grow!

Posted by: Moin Ansari | February 22, 2008 5:04 PM

Why do people continue to speak of democracy as if it were a "shake & bake" cure for the world (?) Democracy is the best there is but it can't be taken intraveniously and instantaneously. All these countries out there are candidates for democracy but on their own time lines & schedules. There is a lot of preparation in peoples minds that must take place before a democracy can flourish. We can offer democracy but M-16's and Abrams tanks are never going to make it work or take root. Fidel retired ! He ruled for 49 years, took everything the US could throw at him and he won! He was the last guy standing. Now, possibly, democracy will achieve a foothold over the next few years but it is not gonna spring forth full grown as soon as Fidel is buried. All these nations we keep getting involved in are the same in that the US gets so confused as to why they don't immediately accept democracy and thank us as saviors.
59,000+ americans died in Viet Nam & guess what ? It is still a communist country.
And to answer the obvious yes, I do see a ton of parallels.
Democracy is advanced citizenship and not for the faint of heart. We can offer; but, we cannot force the issue. Be it Pakistan,
or any other -stan in the world. Lets stay out of it for awhile and mind our own business. It will eventually come around.
Just like WW III will eventually come around as certain as a mathematical equation.

Posted by: Meadows | February 22, 2008 4:12 PM

//Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's plea for American forbearance today comes at the very moment when those who represent the newly elected government are suggesting a less confrontational approach to Islamic militancy in the border regions.\\

Bill, you are spinning a false dilemma here. And you know it. But nobody prints retractions for an opinion; so I won't expect it from you either. At least you have spun a better arguement than you did yesterday.
Thanks...

A less confrontational approach? When has Mush ever become confrontational with the Taliban or AQ that had any real significance? Oh, thats right - when Mush FAILED TO ACT when we asked for his permission to enter his country to pursue them. The only confrontation then, was the US argueing with him and begging him to merely let us in. One can call that a confrontation - I guess!

Why?
Because if we would have defeated AQ/Taliban in his region - Mush's Pakistan would no longer be recipients of all that wonderful USAID - now would he?
All Mush had to do was hide behind the legalities of his own sovereign nation/border - as he did - and use this option to ensure the AQ/Taliban escape and their reflourishing would be insured. Without using this option, he would be without a sponsor to continue this propped-up fight - which he needs to continue our presence in this region. Now that there is a new gov't in Pakistan, they are ensuring that terrorism will be their realized 'cash cow' - with nothing to hinder them.

But now that Mush has gotten the boot, it is a far different field of play; in which we are being pushed out. Some nefarious political goal and somebody to see it thru will have to take up space in this kind of vacuum.
Q:An unstable nuke nation must get some play from an enterprising and contrary nation; how can this be avoided?
A: it can't!

If the new Pakistani gov't wants to see a 'less confrontational approach', what they really mean to say is that they have a new sponsorship and no longer need our support. In fact, it should be setting off the alarms in the Pentagon that we can expect to see greater terrorist plots being planned/launched against the US from their country.

And who may be the new sponsor - or 'enterprising contrary nation'?
I can only guess from here, but I would have to say that it is most likely Russia - IMHO. But it could involve other nations, too. Any nation that needs to pay Pakistan as a surrogate to continue to destabilize the West is possible. History has shown us that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan had some handiwork in past terrorist acts against the US. I wouldn't be at all surprised if SA were also involved - as a third party to help the political tilt against the West. Regional hegemony is assured, and the West is left without the means to stop their terrorist flow. So a different stage in terrorism is being setup as we wait.
Terrorism and terrorists have a name for their university - 'Pakistan'!

My biggest gripe/concern is for the common people of Pakistan, who are once more stuck in the middle of this crap and have to suck on both ends just to survive. There is the real trajedy, and the politics of Pakistan doesn't allow them any better lot that what they are getting now.

Posted by: Plainfacto | February 22, 2008 3:21 PM

I wonder why we are not seeing the positives that have come out of these elections.
1. These have been the fairest, freest and by far the most peaceful elections in Pakistan's History - Pakistani people are all for democracy.
2. Pakistanis have rejected the religious right - from over 50 seats to less than 5 - Pakistani are moderate, peace loving people.
3. The two main political parties that were always at logger heads are talking about forming a Goverenment of National Unity - Amazing. A sense of reconciliation.
All other things being said and done are politics.
I beleive that we need Musharraf to stay on, we need him more than ever. His presence as an elder statesman is imperative.
Please concentrate on the positives that are hapening in Pakistan - you people very conviniently portray even the positives in such a negative light.
GIVE PAKISTAN A BREAK

Posted by: AbuBakr O | February 22, 2008 2:28 PM

Brad is refreshingly eloquent. The anomaly is that people do not involve themselves in aspects of their governments foreign policy as they do in their domestic policy. This creates a vacuum which is then filled by the powerful oil and military industries allied with lobbyists for foreign governments which then hatch the kind of new colonialism that Brad speaks of. Americans voters cannot afford to ignore how their government behaves anymore. Otherwise tragedies like 9/11 will become common.

Posted by: mohammad | February 22, 2008 2:02 PM

Let me see...where are my glasses. Yes those way over there. If I pick them up and put them on will I be called hyperopic or isolationist! Hmmm...let me see.

Brad,

How about a tergiversator?

Posted by: The Rev | February 22, 2008 1:53 PM

The outcome of election in Pakistan particularly the Frontier province is a good omen for the common men and women on both side of the borders. ANP the winning party is aligned through its old comrades in Afghanistan, India and Russia and will undermine Pakistani intelligence efforts in couterting US efforts of bringing peace to the region. USA should curtail the funds to Army directly and commit to the USAID in FATA region for development through NGO's and local Jirga councils. US will reap the benefits very quickly.

Otherwise, the Pak army will never let peace in the tribal region and the status quo has suited them in the past.

I hope ANP will align all the pushtuns on both sides of border and bring about peace for pukhtuns.

Posted by: Faris R | February 22, 2008 1:53 PM

Brad,

Our government does not support the democratically elected government in Israel. That is what the Palestinians have been saying all along. Anyone who believes in America's purported desire to spread democracy is demo crazy!

America's ideal of spreading democracy is being used in the same manner that the Christian church used during the crusades in order to spread Christianity. Both groups hid behind by euphemisms and platitudes, their ultimate goal was to plant a form of government that they could live with!

Religious hegemony? Secular hegemony? They are both evil!

Posted by: The Rev | February 22, 2008 1:46 PM

Does any one see how our government's public disappointment with a true turn towards democracy in Pakistan undermines our stated reason for being in Iraq and Afghanistan?

It's like we just want Musharraf to be our stooge over there, and we can't see any other way to accomplish our foreign policy objectives than having someone who is basically a viceroy who does our bidding.

Does anyone see that is what resulted in creation of the likes of Saddam, The Shah of Iran, and the disastrous results that followed when 'our man' in the country lost credibility as a leader of the country? These are only the most obvious examples of this kind of thing happening in our foreign policy.

Our foreign policy and national security is best served by supporting the democracy of Pakistan. To do otherwise is to play into the hands of the extremists who want to be seen as the only ones who can stand up to the efforts of the US to take over their country. Our best weapon against extremists is to allow the people to take a path of democracy and prosperity. It's our heavy handedness and affront to Pakistanis' national and tribal self respect that creates an environment that favors extremism.

This is not only true of Pakistan and our relations with them since 9/11, it's true of our general method of relating with and controlling other countries since naked colonialism went out fashion after WWII.

Ossama Bin Laden was inspired to begin fighting us when he came home Saudi Arabia after helping the Afghanis fight the Soviets and realized that we, the US, were doing to his country what he had been helping to prevent the Soviets from doing to Afghanistan. The only difference is we have fooled even most people in the US into believing that the Saudi Royal family rules Saudi Arabia and could stay there if we stopped supporting them.

Essentially the Saudi Royal family is performing for companies like Chevron in Arabia, the work that the British colonial administration performed for the East India Company in India.

Our attempts to set up a similar situation in Iran and Iraq have been notable failures of our attempts to treat those countries in similar ways. By not supporting the democratic turn in Pakistan, by not dealing with respect with all governing parties in Pakistan, we risk turning Musharraf into another Saddam. It seems he is wise enough to realize he must respect the will of the people of Pakistan, or risk us doing the same thing to him as we did to Saddam when it all goes bad.

The fact is we can work with all the democratically elected parties in Pakistan to fight violence as a means of solving problems. No one wants bombs going off randomly in the street. No one wants to be forced by the government to live by a particular interpretation of any religion, even Muslims. The Taliban's rule of Afghanistan proved that.

In the end each, certainly of the major elected parties, will agree that it is in their best interest to provide freedom from fear of random violence, provide something other than a war zone for their constituents to live in, to have some freedom to interpret religious belief according to their own conscience, and a list of freedoms and quality of life that the taliban are incapable of providing. The big condition is, we can't require them to just do what we tell them. If that's what we require then they'd rather be ruled by the taliban. It's the devil they know, and it's their devil, which is always preferable to a foreign devil they don't know. Think about it, would you rather be ruled by an American dictator (Bush?, Petraus?, Hillary?, Obama?) , or the taliban? They feel about Bush as a dictator, the same way we'd feel about the taliban if they were in charge of our country.


Posted by: brad | February 22, 2008 1:18 PM

"As we saw in the killing of Hezbollah military leader Imad Mughniyah in Syria, the Israelis (and some our other allies willing to use lethal force) have their own lists and capabilities."

Why do you presume the Israelis were behind Mughniyah's death?

Just a question. Not a knee-jerk defensive criticism.

Posted by: Dave Fjeld | February 22, 2008 12:03 PM

Knowing Pak mindset, it will be yet another grave mistake on part of US administration to rely on Pak promises, no matter who is in power there. Pak has been and will continue to use terror and keep breeding terrorists and havens for them to wring out as much in every form, ranging from money to concessions, from the US. They will continue to nurture the terror networks to gain so called depth in Afganistan and to influence events there in Pak's favor, and continue to use terror as a tool against India. The irony is that Pak will not be able to contain the terror networks to Pak objectives and these terror network will continue to grow and menace the world in their dream of creating a next Caliphate. If the world and the US cannot figure this out, they will do so at their own peril.

US must stop providing all military harware deals with Pak and any monetary funding must be routed through accredited NGO for social and educational programs with clear accountability.

Posted by: MN | February 22, 2008 11:51 AM

Based on what I've read over the past one year, I have come to one conclusion: you are an idiot! First you were critical of Musharraf and praised Bhutto. Now that democracy is in place, you guys are worried. Frankly, Musharraf was the best chance that Pakistan ever had.....I'm not sure what the future holds with two thugs in-charge with the possibility of a corrupt Chief Justcie restored....God help us!

Posted by: Shahzad Aalam | February 22, 2008 11:47 AM

Let me see...where are my glasses. Yes those way over there. If I pick them up and put them on will I be called hyperopic or isolationist! Hmmm...let me see.

Posted by: Duke | February 22, 2008 11:46 AM

Fighting on 3 fronts...

Any young man or young woman who joins the American military machine today, had better think about it twice. The
decision had better not be made because
someone needs a job, money for education
or benefits to purchase a home in the
future.

Whoever join will likely be involved in
one of America's political wars and fighting on one of 3 fronts. They will be jostled about from theater to theater, fighting in venues where the parameters are not clear, neither will their reasons for being there be clear!

UBL and the 9/11 hijackers provided the U.S.A. with a pretext to attack Iraq, and UBL has given the USA to go into Pakistan, both incursions I believe were already in the back of someone's minds in Washington.

If I was a Pakistani citizen, I would vote Mushareff out of office immediately for permitting a 3rd world nation to come and interfere with the internal affairs of our nation.

Mushareff's first mistake was when he gave into the USA instead of a legitimate organization of nations against the Taliban. The students, right or wrong, should have had nothing to do with Mushareff turning against a neighbor nation in order to help an expansionist nation.

Mushareff is receiving the same reward from the United States that Iran is receiving for helping the United States in Afghanistan. Now the U.S.A. is after him, his government and his country.

Not good!

Posted by: The Rev | February 22, 2008 10:06 AM

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