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The 2007 Pinocchio Awards
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Columbia University, September 24, 2007.
Winner of the 2007 Pinocchio awards
Congratulations to all the contestants for a splendid showing in 2007. The competition for the top places has been intense, but after due consideration, I have finally managed to narrow the field down to the top five fibs in two categories, "Presidential Candidates" and "Best of the Rest." Obviously, many of you will disagree with some of my choices. I have accepted advice from colleagues, friends, and readers but, in the end, this is a selection of personal favorites that makes no pretense to scientific accuracy. In the "Presidential Candidates" category, I am also handing out a special Geppetto truth-telling award.
For a year-end wrapup on the "Fibs of 2007," see my front-page article in Sunday's WaPo here, accompanied by this graphic. On to 2008! Keep those suggestions coming. A Happy New Year to all.
Presidential Candidates:
- "I saw my father march with Martin Luther King"
--Mitt Romney, "Faith in America" address, December 6, 2007.
This one comes at the top of my list for 2007, for two reasons. (1) Romney was not speaking off the cuff. He had plenty of time to think about what he was saying and do his research. The Boston Herald quoted Romney as saying that "my father and I marched with King" as far back as 1978. (2) He continued to defend the statement after it was challenged, arguing about the meaning of the word "saw." As governor of Michigan, George Romney supported the civil rights movement, but the Romney campaign has not been able to show that he ever marched with King. Rather than acknowledge the mistake, the campaign put the Politico website in touch with eyewitnesses who claimed that they had seen George Romney "hand in hand." Contemporaneous newspaper reports show that the two men were in different parts of the country on the date in question.
- "Hillary will begin immediate phased withdrawal [from Iraq] with a definite timetable to bring our troops home."
--Hillary Clinton, New Hampshire campaign leaflet, September
I chose this one because of the importance of the underlying issue, and a pattern of obfuscation on Iraq by the Clinton campaign. Clinton has promised to order her generals to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq within 60 days of her inauguration, but she has never provided a "definite timetable" for bringing the troops home. In fact, she has said that she cannot promise to get all U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of a second presidential term. At a campaign event on December 19, she was a little more specific than she had been previously when she said "I think we can bring home one or two combat brigades a month." There is a huge difference, however, between "can" and "will." "Can" does not constitute a "definite timetable."
- "My chances of surviving prostate cancer and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States, 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England, only 44 percent under socialized medicine."
--Rudy Giuliani, New Hampshire radio advertisement, October 29, 2007
I was torn between this claim and the Giuliani's Sept. 19 boast in London that he was one of the "four or five best-known Americans" in the world. In the end, I chose this one because it was more pre-meditated. It formed the basis of a Giuliani radio advertisement in new Hampshire. Rather than acknowledge that he was wrong, Giuliani insisted that the claim was "absolutely accurate" even though his campaign has been unable to produce a single prostate cancer researcher who agrees with him.
- "I don't want to wake up four years from now and discover that we still have more young black men in prison than in college."
--Barack Obama, fund-raiser in Harlem, NY, Nov. 29, 2007.
Simply untrue, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. There may be a case for arguing, as some Obama supporters have done, that the total number of black prisoners is slightly higher than the total number of black students. But I can only fact check the comparison the candidate actually made, which was between young black men in prison and in college. Rather than acknowledge the error, the Obama campaign declined to provide statistical support.
- "I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation."
--John McCain interview with Beliefnet.com, September 2007.
A number of Republican candidates have made erroneous statements about the Christian underpinnings of America. According to Mike Huckabee, most of the Founding Fathers were clergymen. Duncan Hunter repeated an old myth about the personal prayer book of George Washington. But McCain's statement seemed the most egregious. Anyone who wants to be president should be intimately familiar with the constitution. Article Six states that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United Sates."
Geppetto "truth-telling" award:
--Barack Obama, December 13, 2007, after the Clinton campaign raised questions about his drug use as a young man.
The issue of illegal drug use does not carry quite the political freight in this campaign as in 1992, when Bill Clinton felt it necessary to qualify his admission to marijuana smoking by insisting "I did not inhale". Nevertheless, it is refreshing to hear a Baby Boom candidate tell it like it was.
Best of the Rest:
- "In Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country...In Iran we do not have this phenomenon."
--Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Columbia university, September 24, 2007.
The Iranian president was greeted with jeers and catcalls when he made this statement. Homosexuals have been stoned and killed in Iran, but it is ridiculous to deny that they exist.A man named Amir
later wrote an article for the Washington Post that began like this: "I'm one of those people Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says don't exist. I'm a 25-year-old Iranian, and I'm gay." - "The government does not torture people...We stick to U.S. law and international obligations"
--President Bush, October 5, 2007, responding to disclosure of a 2005 government memo that authorized simulated drowning, or "waterboarding."
The United Nations Convention Against Torture, which came into force in 1985, defines torture as "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession." There is ample evidence that the U.S. has used waterboarding against at least one Al-Qaeda suspect, Abu Zabaydah. One can argue whether torture is justified or not if it will save lives. But there can be little doubt that waterboarding constitutes torture, as defined by the 1985 U.N. Convention. Bush's use of the present tense in this case--"does not torture"--is reminiscent of Bill Clinton's quibbling over the meaning of the word "is."
- "If we reported it, it's a fact."
--Lou Dobbs of CNN, interviewed by CBS 60 Minutes, May 6, 2007, standing by a false claim that there had been 7,000 new cases of leprosy in the United States between 2002 and 2004.
This one is almost Orwellian in its implications. Lou Dobbs (no relation to the Fact Checker) tells you it, so it must be true. There is no room for argument. Truth is what we say it is, here at CNN.
- "Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers,"
--Bill Clinton, campaigning with his wife in Iowa, November 27, 2007
The most charitable spin to be placed on this statement is that he has a very short memory. His claim that he opposed the Iraq war from the very beginning is at odds with his own statements at the time.
- "I don't recall."
Alberto Gonzales, Senate Hearing, April 19, 2007.
Accounts differ over whether Gonzales used the phrase 72 or 74 times during the hearing. It stretches the bounds of credulity to think that his memory is that bad.
Posted on December 31, 2007 at 6:00 AM ET | Category: Barack Obama, Candidate Record, Candidate Watch, Hillary Rodham Clinton, History, Iraq, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani
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Posted by: Judy in TX | December 31, 2007 11:20 AM
Well done. George W. Bush will be remembered for many a personal and policy blunder, or evil-doer/doing strategy, take your pick, but the torture denial was one the world heard, which exacerbated the already memorable Abu Ghraib debacle. Mr. Bush may, at some point in his life, come to terms with his narcissistic propensities, or psychosis, but until he lets down his defenses and becomes willing to face his most-pronounced character flaw and actions, he will remain in his safe haven - denial.
Posted by: embug | December 31, 2007 11:50 AM
Oh come on WaPo!
Is a lie denying TOTURE less serious than one about prevalence of homosexuality? The first is totally sinister the second a mere laugh line!
It demeans your moral priorities.Posted by: qualquan | December 31, 2007 5:16 PM
Well done. No one is denying these people fibbed and some to a greater extent than others.
But how about awarding yourself one for all the lies the WP tells us specially when it comes to Pakistan, Palestine, the Middle East, and Iran.
After all you lead the pack alongwith your NYT buddies with your lies in 2003.
Remember poor Saddam and the wmd's?
You pseudo liberals are good at making fun of others!
Posted by: Bangalee Babu | December 31, 2007 5:49 PM
Bangalee Babu - What an apt name you have.
Is Dobbs a liberal even though he points out the fibs of both Democrats AND Republicans?
And by the way, the word is "especially", not"specially".
Posted by: rukidding | December 31, 2007 9:49 PM
So, when the president says "We don't torture," he should be using the UN definition and not that one US gov't definition that excludes waterboarding and such? It's unsavory, but it is technically truthful.
(I don't think waterboarding is in the nation's best interests, but I suppose I'm a serial apologist.)
Posted by: LtNOWIS | January 2, 2008 7:17 AM
And here is the Factchecker's Pinnochio rating scale
1. Some shading of the facts. Selective telling of the truth. Some omissions and exaggerations, but no outright falsehoods.
2. Significant omissions and/or exaggerations. Some factual error may be involved but not necessarily. A politician can create a false, misleading impression by playing with words and using legalistic language that means little to ordinary people.
3. Significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions.
4. Whoppers
Adjust score as follows:
Subtract 1 Pinnochio if Republican candidate (2 if GOP front-runner)
Add 1 Pinnochio if Democratic candidate (2 if candidate last name is Clinton).Posted by: ffc | January 3, 2008 1:33 PM
LtNOWIS, in fact, neither the U.N. nor the U.S. government can define torture. A court of law can, though only for its own admittedly powerful procedural use, subject to appeal. I apologize for seeming to make too fine a legal point here, but want to stress that a thousand of years of legal precedent going back to the Magna Carta protects us from our government committing crimes with impunity by redefining words.
Posted by: jhbyer | January 23, 2008 9:35 PM
In Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country...In Iran we do not have this phenomenon."
--Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Columbia university, September 24, 2007
-------------------------------------------Yes this comment brought Ahmadinejad down faster than a presidential war threat. However, he was actually right.
There is no question that same-sex couples as well as same-sex intercourse occurs all over the world. However the most non-western countries have a "homo-sexual culture". Meaning coming together as a political and social entity such as minority groups. Instead people have homosexual experiences and relationship without seeking group identity such as in the U.S. and Europe.
You have to recall that homosexual behavior has been a normal part of many civilized societies but the "act" rarely defined a person in these societies.This comment is very similar to the statement about "wiping Isarel off the face of the map" which upon further translation my Irian has a different meaning than the obvious.
TAlk to most new immigrants trying to learn English about dimple sentences getting lost in the translation.
Posted by: Lizbeth | January 24, 2008 2:51 AM
Lizbeth, thanks for your illuminating information. That he's our "enemy" makes it worse, imo, for the media to have failed to check quotes that have endured as stock phrases. The only other phrase I know to have been been as badly misinterpreted is Kruschev's "We will bury you" which was used to demonize the Soviets for decades. Turns out he used a common Russian figure of speech meant merely to suggest the USSR would "outlive" the US. "I will bury you" is how Russians boast in jest of their good health.
Posted by: jhbyer | January 24, 2008 4:20 AM
Some of these rankings are legitimate, but the first one isn't even a story. The more detailed article CONFIRMS that Romney's dad supported and participated in activism with Dr. Martin Luther King, even if they weren't marching hand in hand. If Romney's dad OPPOSED civil rights, that would merit the rating of the top lie of 2007. But as it is, they just happened to demonstrate on different days. Who cares?!
I read this article because I'm currently an undecided voter and wanted to become more informed about the candidates. I expected something more substantive. This author wasted my time.
Posted by: operaml | January 25, 2008 7:13 PM
No doubt the Obama comparison of numbers of incarcerated young adult African American males to those in college is incorrect. I suspect, however, that someone on his research staff found a count of everyone under judicial or court supervision. That includes parolees, those under house arrest, work release, and most-importantly those on probation. Across all ages the ratio of those on probation to those incarcerated is 2 to 1. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/corr2tab.htm
One would expect a higher multiplier to apply to the young.
Of course, those on probation can be enrolled in college. But, come on.........Posted by: Harry Travis--DemostiX | January 28, 2008 4:00 PM
I fallowed the Repubblican debate very closely,and although both Romney and Mcain exagerate the truth,Mcain does it much more than Romney.In addition he showed his temper and that he does not take criticism very well.I do not like the prospect of having a President who does not know how to keep his cool under pressure.
Posted by: Joseph A. Bonaccorso | January 31, 2008 11:15 AM
McCain supporter here, with no love lost on Romney, but I really think you are being way too literal on the Romney quote. If his father did indeed march for civil rights at the time King did, then I think it is a fair analogy to marching "with" King. No, it doesn't need to be side by side, or even in the same march. But if he was marching during 19966-1968, I would consider that close enough to not be a lie. To call it one of the most egregious lies of the campaign season seems pretty absurd.
Posted by: Jerry D | January 31, 2008 12:35 PM
"Y'all stay the course, na'!" -PRES. BUSH TO THE TROOPS
Posted by: sawargos | January 31, 2008 9:45 PM
You blithely state:
"But there can be little doubt that waterboarding constitutes torture, as defined by the 1985 U.N. Convention."
Please explain or quote the document. With waterboarding, no one dies, no one is permanently harmed, except perhaps emotionally; a small price to pay for saving innocent lives. People have undergone waterboarding just to see how it works, and have survived intact to tell about it. After waterboarding is eliminated, perhaps the next step will be to avoid hurting terrorists' tender feelings. The point is, there is a legitimate difference of opinion whether waterboarding is or is not torture.Posted by: geggett | January 31, 2008 10:55 PM
As representative of another prominent, respected news source, thought you might like to know that the NY Times "Live Blog" of the Clinton/Obama debate contained at least two significant and misleading errors in their reporting of Hillary Clinton's debate responses. If you saw the debate, you'll spot them right away. Unfortunately, readers who did not view the event will be short-changed and mislead if they rely on this so-called "live blog"
Thanks for being a fact checker - especially if you include reports of media distortion and manipulation (as exemplified above.)
Posted by: jacqueline marie | February 1, 2008 9:41 AM
How about Bill Clinton's claim that Barack Obama's opposition of the war in Iraq was a "fairy tale"?? That's a LIE. And how about Bill Clinton's claim that he and Hillary opposed the war from the beginning. That's another LIE.
And how about fact checking every word that comes out of the mouth of that IMPEACHED SLEEZE-BALL ???
Posted by: Liz Hilton | February 1, 2008 11:09 AM
I can't help but shake my head every time I read or hear Ahmadinejads' statement regarding gays. If the stats are correct, then of course his country does not have any...they kill them, duh?!?.
Posted by: Lori of ILL | February 1, 2008 6:27 PM
"If we reported it, it's a fact."
--Lou Dobbs of CNN...
This statement is not 'almost Orwellian"
as you say. Itis Orwellian -- it is, in the purest sense of the word "dictatorial" A dictator's word is law, and what a dictator says is perforce legally true..."Truth is what we say it is, here at CNN."
"Truth is what I say it is" is Mr. Bush's credo. Did he not say something to the effect that "If I said it, it must be true."? Fact check that, would you?How can a dictator with more real power than any one person on earth NOT rate banner headlines when he declares that whatever he says is the law is the law,when he disdains the law and his lackies treats our laws with contempt and our treaties "quaint". His right to dictate the law and truth is a credo the Decider has stated aloud and acted uponoften: but have you headlined his recent signing statements for example, or even commented on them in a prominent article? -- have you noticed which laws and parts of law he has dictated do not apply to him?
"Orwellian" is your newspaper's slavish deliberate refusal to call a dictator a dictator.
Posted by: kentl1 | February 1, 2008 11:12 PM
You're stretching it on #4. Barack did not say there is more young black men in jail then in college. He said he did not want to see it in the future. If he had said "there are more young black men in jail than in college" then he would have been lying, but he did not say that.
Even if he had said that it would hardly qualify as one of the biggest lies of the year. I think it's only on the list so you could show that you're "fair" by having both Barack and Billary on the list when in fact the Clinton campaign has uttered many more egregious, high-profile lies than has Obama.
Posted by: Wokich | February 4, 2008 2:26 PM
BUSH ADMINISTRATION LIAR TYPES
Pick the one answer that best fits the official --
1. Bush; 2. Cheney; 3. Rumsfeld; 4. Gonzalez; 5. Rice; 6. Snow; 7. Frist; 8. Boehner; 9. Hastert; 10. DeLay; 11. Rove
A. Professional liar; B. Scripted liar; C. Desperate liar; D. Slanderer; E. Self-deluding liar; F. Soviet-style "Big Lie" liar; G. Repetitive liar; H. Iterative liar; I. Hard-wired liar; J. Blasphemous liar; K. Lie-master.
(HINT: The Blasphemous Liar said he hoped his police mug shot photo would help people to find Christ.)
ANSWER KEY - 1-E; 2-I; 3-G; 4-F; 5-H; 6-A; 7-B; 8-D; 9-C; 10-J; 11-KPosted by: LarryRiedman | February 6, 2008 10:59 PM
BUSH IS A LIEING SOB AND I WOULDNT BELIEVE ONE WORD THAT COMES FROM HIS MOUTH. HE SURE DESERVES THE LIE OF THE CENTURY AWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SORRY BUSH WAS NOT WITH GATES WHEN GATES FELL, HE COULD HAVE BROKEN HIS HEAD- NO LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: LYNN PARKER | February 13, 2008 12:02 PM
I heard a Farsi speaker complain about the media's reporting on the Iranian Prime Minister's comment regarding the non-existence of homosexuals in Iran. This person's point was that there was a mistranslation, that the prime minister said there aren't homosexuals in Iran in the way they are in the United States, i.e. relatively open and in view. In other words, he was making a point that homosexuality should be hidden and be seen as shameful. In other words, a view to be criticised (and how dissimiliar is his view from the point of view of some in the Christian Right?) and seen as reprehensible, but not a statement of stupidity. I think this is a profound difference in the way his statement should be engaged. So, he isn't lying or being stupid, he's being narrow, bigoted and dangerous. Big, big difference.
Posted by: julius.galacki | February 13, 2008 6:28 PM
AS a fan of Lou Dobbs, I can safely tell you he supports middle America and does not lean liberal. To neo-cons he is a liberal, to the Pelosi wing he is conservative, to his fans he is just a concerned American telling it like it is.
Posted by: jameschirico | February 16, 2008 8:05 AM
Re: Obama on young black men in prison.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau and the U.S. Department of Justice data for the year 2005, for the black male population age 20 to 24, 72,000 were enrolled in college and 94,000 were in prison.
Posted by: Tom Fox | February 17, 2008 10:53 PM
Ok for the last time Barrack Obama did NOT say that there ARE more young black men in Prison than in college he said I don't want to wake up four years from now and discover that we have more young black men in prison than in college. People are going to take whatever misquotations they can and run with but you know the more you dig for dirt, the dirtier your hands get!
Posted by: K. Green | February 19, 2008 11:03 AM
#2 comment about Sen.Clinton:
You are really streching this -- depending what context it was in is quite important.
However, you will notice that Clinton is much more careful about withdrawling troops from Iraq, than Obama. Sen.Clinton understands (from her experience)that this must be done carefully and correctly or our troops could be in grave danger. Obama shows how naive he is when he answers this question. Seriously, Obama's remarks about foreign policy and national defense really scare me!! He is not another "JFK" (I was alive when he was President.) What will Obama do if Iran has nuclear missiles pointed at Israel?Posted by: Greg | February 19, 2008 11:25 AM
Wokich and K. Green: You are skipping over a key word that Obama said. He said he doesn't want to wake up in four years and discover that there are "still" more young black men in prison than in college. The simplest understanding of that sentence is that today there are more young black men in prison than in college and he wants that to change.
That said, his statement seems to me to be more of a mistake than a lie. Whatever the numbers might be, there are still too many young black men in prison and too few in college.
Posted by: obama supporter | February 20, 2008 3:58 PM
I have to put the President of Iran's lie at the top myself.
If there are no homosexuals in Iran, then the ones they tried and brutally executed were innocent.
Remember, this is the one who says they have no nuclear weapon program just because they are not working on how the bomb will go together..... as he happily continues to enrich the uranium to weapons grade.
There is no secret that Iran is a threat and the only candidate for President that acknowledges it is Senator McCain.
Posted by: omarkhyam1951 | February 23, 2008 1:39 AM
It is astonishing that you would include Obama's use of the word 'young', thereby creating a SLIGHT distortion of the facts, among the top five Pinnochio moments when considering the enormity of morally challenged lies that have been uttered by other politicians, especially those in the current administration.
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He ISA an arrogant so-in-so even if you can't say it, I will.
CNN has hated Native people since the time of crazy Ted Turner. He used to publicly make programs about Natives and privately demean them.
But my favorite line was Rick Sanchez when he was speaking about the genocide perpetuated on Native people since 1492 and I quote, "Get over it." It would be nice to get over it if it ever had stopped. Since Billy boy Clinton sent 12,000 Navajos to the Rio Puerco to die on a radioactive toxic dump and have babies barely recognizable as human.Ok Rick, how about you get over what Castro did to the people of Cuba so badly that your family had to flee that country. Just get over it and love old Castro. Not.
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Well, I've taken issue with some of your fact-checking during the year.
This time, you hit both areas you fact check on the nose.
I'm not sure I wouldn't have placed George Bush first in "Best of the Rest" for "We do not torture," as the worst lie in the entire year of world coverage, although I admit that Ahmadinejad's boner was so blatant and covered live by television, that its impact was dramatically immediate.
I also saw George Bush deny torture live on CNN, as well, however it didn't have the flabbergasting quality of Ahmadinejad's because he's expected to prevaricate; Bush doesn't accept responsibility for anything.
I also want to thank you for your Dec. 30th article, "The Fibs of 2007," (i.e., 10 campaign fibs). Excellent list and very fair. I was truly amazed. The graphic provided a very good summary.
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This is an important service you are providing. Stay on course for fairness and you will make a major contribution to the possibility that this election could be a fair election.
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