The Fact-Checker, by Michael Dobbs

The real lessons from this campaign are most applicable to resume writers: "stuff the damned thing to the hilt, and no one will care!"
None of the three candidates running is worth electing as President. It's time to start over again, while we can, and pick a new set that is actually worth a hoot. These three all have an incredible ability to disguise the truth. They are all extremely dangerous to elect.

4 Pinocchios!

Bill Richardson doesn't need to puff up his own resume, and his judgment on who will make the best President carries a lot of credibility.

Not to mention taking your daughter to such a "dangerous" place!

I just don't understand why people say things like this, especially when they are so easily verifiable--and you know they will be checked! It's not just Hillary, all sorts of high level people do this all the time, and get caught!

I know it's human nature to want to put yourself in the best light, but anyone who wants to be president needs to learn to stop and think before they say something like that, then don't say it!

Liar, Liar pants on fire. Hey Hillary, its 3:00 am and the phone is ringing. Only you won't be there to answer it...Oh happy day!!!

They say if you repeat a lie often enough in the minds of the people it becomes true.
#1 "I did not have sex with that woman"
#2 " I was under fire in Bosnia"
#3 " I have all the experience I need to be Chief of Staff" etc etc

That definitely earned her four Pinocchios. I do not know what would be the reward for this blatantly hypocritical praise of Heather Mills (of gold-digger fame)

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/god-bless-you-heather/

Reminder this was, before she voted against a cluster bomb ban.

That definitely earned her four Pinocchios. I do not know what would be the reward for this blatantly hypocritical praise of Heather Mills (of gold-digger fame)

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/god-bless-you-heather/

Reminder this was, before she voted against a cluster bomb ban.

This doesn't surprise me. How much more info do people need to see how utterly dishonest the woman is. Doesn't this just speak to the issue of integrity? If she exaggerates s'thg this trivial, who knows what she will say..."Iraq has WMDs!" Do we want this again?????

My husband says Hillary is alot like George W. and I couldn't see the analogy...but as time goes on....it's becoming increasingly clear. She is not transparent and would iniate change or be a good President.

I only wish the super delegates would end this thing. Hillary is digging a deeper and deeper hole that the Democrats will be unable to extricate themselves from in the fall. They need to move NOW!

Peggy, very well said!

Fact checker: DARN GOOD CALL! Can you add more to Hillary's lying tongue?

Thinker, svreader, iowatreasures, and the other Clintonistas: what say you to this record? Where are y'all all now???

dang. is this the most Pinocchios awarded yet?

look at 'em all lined up there... HRC got them all!

nice job.

Peggy,

You said exactly! what I have been feeling and thinking. This lady is slowly destroying the Democrats, she is...in alot of ways Bushesque. The longer she campaigns, the more she destroys herself.

Outright lies, not shading, not spinning, these are the Clintons we know too well.

Problem is, with the Clinton flacks, like Ferraro, doing the race baiting and Hillary herself declaring John (100 years of war) McCain a better Commander-in-Chief than Barak, we are seeing the way the Clintons rebuilt the Democratic party.

It was built to defeat the Republicans by eliminating as many differences between them as possible. What's next, Bill courting the religious right? Lets see, the white male vote is the bed they have made for themselves. Richardson knows that.

Yes, Hillary Clinton distorts everyting or dismisses anyone who tries to show her up. I am sick and tred of hearing the media trying to analyze every word of Obama's speech. Why can't 'American Joe with Joe Scarborough and Mika keep trying to take apart the 'race' issue - eg. 'why does Obama bring up words on his white grandmother what is he trying to say.
It is time to move on and let the candidates move on with their solutions to the crisis facing the Amercan people. It is well known that the Clintons will continue to lie, cheat and steal if necessary. The media will not even mention the Peter F. Paul vs. Clinton #17 million dollar Fraud trial. Presently, California Superior Court judge Aurelio N. Munoz and lawyers for Peter Paul are seeking 'sworn testimonies' from all three Clintons, top Democratic officials and Terry McAuliffe of the Clinton campaign. A hearing is scheduled in Los Angeles, CA on April 25, 2008 with a trial scheduled for October.November of 2008. How many people have heard this on the news media. Isn't it about time that Hillary is really 'vetted'.

Yes, Hillary Clinton distorts everyting or dismisses anyone who tries to show her up. I am sick and tred of hearing the media trying to analyze every word of Obama's speech. Why can't 'American Joe with Joe Scarborough and Mika keep trying to take apart the 'race' issue - eg. 'why does Obama bring up words on his white grandmother what is he trying to say.
It is time to move on and let the candidates move on with their solutions to the crisis facing the Amercan people. It is well known that the Clintons will continue to lie, cheat and steal if necessary. The media will not even mention the Peter F. Paul vs. Clinton #17 million dollar Fraud trial. Presently, California Superior Court judge Aurelio N. Munoz and lawyers for Peter Paul are seeking 'sworn testimonies' from all three Clintons, top Democratic officials and Terry McAuliffe of the Clinton campaign. A hearing is scheduled in Los Angeles, CA on April 25, 2008 with a trial scheduled for October.November of 2008. How many people have heard this on the news media. Isn't it about time that Hillary is really 'vetted'.

You know, she is looking like karl rove in a pantsuit---not good.I'm a so sick and tired of her manipulations and out right lies during this political process. HRC will squander the good of the country all because of her enormous ego and self-denial. And now she is a "agent of change"-- lady, please. Go back to NY while they still want you. This country does not.

Oooo! Here's another one:

"Clinton Lie Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy"
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=300860

Fact Checker please check the facts on that next!

When the phone ring at 3:00am at the
White House it's for Bill not Hillary.

You mean Hillary Clinton lies? No wai!

Nobody here in Britain and Northern Ireland has even heard of Hillary Clinton's supposed work for Ulster peace.

I was so amazed to hear her claim a role in N.Ireland peace that I checked the facts.

She claimed to have "brought Catholic and Protestant women together."

In fact, this claim comes from a time she was invited to attend one meeting of a cross-community womens' group that had been meeting regularly for nearly two decades. She gave a brief speech, left, and now claims to have brought these women together. Far from helping them, she is trying to claim credit for what they did. They brought themselves together years before Hillary had even heard of Northern Ireland.

Everyone in Britain finds Hillary's claims either laughable or offensive.

Here are the words of David Trimble, who won a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for his work in ending the Troubles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml

Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims

'Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

"I don't know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don't want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."'

PS Everyone in Britain and Ireland, and Europe generally, vastly prefers Obama to either Hillary or McCain, two sides of the same nasty coin.

Does the Fact Checker keep a report card of all the candidates' Pinocchio Test scores? I'm wondering what their QPA (Qualified Principles Average) is...

Trust me! This is just the tip of the iceberg.

"I was on the board of Walmart to push for more women in management and I didnt speak up on labor rights because I didnt want to waste my political capital." Yeah right! And I was born yesterday.

"I helped bring peace to Northern Ireland." Uh huh! So did the people who refilled the water glasses at the peace table.

"I was publicly for Nafta but privately against it." Sure you were.

"I was the president of the college Republicans but I'm a Democrat at heart." Uh huh! About that bridge in Brooklyn you wanted to sell me that you said once I buy it I can walk across it anytime i want, I'm interested.

Yes, Hillary has become the exaggerator in chief.

For all of the talk around press bias, why do we not here about these types of stories in any detail from other major news outlets. This is the kind of story that I find the most repulsive. There are and were US Soldiers placing themselves in harms away performing their missions in Bosnia. Now a politician cheapens their real sacrafice and the real dangers they faced by interjecting some "made for TV melodramatic fable". Commander in Chief? I don't think you could carry an Army Privates Jock or Sports Bra, much less lead and support them. Think before you lie.

And then she jumped out of the plane without a parachute and threw a hand grenade at them and killed all the bad guys and was awarded a Medal of Honor by the president. yeah right. Another big Clinton whopper. David Geffen was right about these two.What a couple of Arkansas liars.

It is amazing to me that this is not considered "news" either on the cable "news" channels or on the networks. Why aren't Hillary's lies being exposed openly? Are the news people in the pockets of the Clintons as are many of the democrats in their political machine? I am outraged by the entertainment and sensationalism priorities of the news organizations as opposed to reporting the truth. Kudos to this paper for trying to get the facts out.

Hoodwinked! Flimflammed! Bamboozled!
What's deception is next?

Here's the link to the entire WRIGHT video--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ&feature=related

Wright was quoting Ambassador Edward Peck during his 9/11 speech.

I think the media owes Senator Obama and the public a STRONG apology. How can the media publish something so critical without doing the proper research? It really makes me question the judgment of the media and their real motives.

This attack on Senator Obama must stop!
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Hillary where the hell are your 2006 tax returns?

Of such stuff Swift Boating is made. If she gets nominated and runs based on having more experience than McCain (which is apparently the plan) it will take the Repubs all of twenty minutes to sink her. Throw this on top of "She was for the war before she was against it" and it's 'Hello President McCain'. More electable my behind...

Was this in the regular paper? I picked up this morning's rival paper and it wasn't in there. Must still be National Bash Obama Month...

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE CARE, SHE FLAT OUT LIED!!!!?

OUTRAGEOUSLY, HILARIOUSLY, BLATANTLY, LIED!

So ridiculous, it's really funny!

Awwww c'mon,. this is one of Clinton's smaller whoppers.

I can hear Mark Penn now...with regards to the tarmac picture..."Not only was Hillary ducking from the sniper fire, she used her body as a human shield to protect a young Muslim girl, saving her life....

How many lies can Hillary's supporters take?

The sad thing being that Hillary's made stooges out her supporters, taking 150 million bucks and tearing down you party?

hmmm..methinks some folks got duped!

The sad thing being that Hillary's made stooges out her supporters, taking 150 million bucks and tearing down you party?

hmmm..methinks some folks got duped!

I urge the Fact-Checker to check who REALLY contacted the Canadian embassy over NAFTA.

Here in Canada, all the media has reported either that BOTH Obama and Clinton's campaigns did, or that it was actually Clinton's campaign, and the story got skewed in the telling.

For example:
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/03/05/4920341-cp.html

Embassy tight-lipped on whether NAFTA leak probe covers Wilson
By THE CANADIAN PRESS

'The CTV story reportedly orginated from (Canadian Prime Minister Stephen) Harper's chief of staff Ian Brodie, who told reporters in Ottawa that Hillary Clinton's campaign assured Canadian officials they need not worry about her NAFTA rhetoric.

There's been no explanation for why the focus shifted to Obama in the CTV report that went to air.'

In early 1996 I was a foreign service officer with the U.S. Information Agency, on temporary duty in Taszar, Hungary, the staging base for U.S. forces going to Bosnia. I was involved in the planning for President Clinton's January visit to Tuzla (He also came to Taszar). Even in January, danger in Bosnia -- particularly at a fortified U.S. base -- was minimal. By the time I left in late February, things had improved further, and continued to improve. Sniper fire in Tuzla in March defies credulity. Four Pinnochios aren't enough.

And don't forget Hillary's claim that she was named in after Sir Edmund Hillary in honor of his climb to the peak of Mt. Everest even though it later came out that Sir Edmunds accomplishment happened years after Mrs. Pinnochio was born.

You don't misremember landing under sniper fire. You don't misremember running into a building with your head covered --- they wouldn't have taken her off the plane into sniper fire or possible sniper fire.

I don't care about Clinton's Balkan adventures. That's old news. I want to know about Barack's Kenyan adventures.

Wow! 4 Leaf Noses! A Whooper indeed. I would suppose someone heard the "crack-thump" of that AK-47 round, and gave the direction of the sniper to her security guards. Wait....I bet no one in that group knew infantry tactics for combating snipers. Get real. Sinbad was right.

God D Hillary Clinton - While Hillary was not dodging sniper fire -

Obama was at his church not hearing what Preacher man was saying.

La la la la la la la

Cultist it is over. The WP and you are on an Island of typical white people. Obama being the most typical of them all.

I think if we let Michigan vote we should kick them out of the country unless the vote for Obama.

VRWC your time has come. Be prepared to be get B slapped.

It is truly rich to see the Democrats, at this late date, indict the Clintonian practices with which we should ALL be quite familiar by now. I guess that sort of thing is okay against the hellish W but we don't care for it intermurally. Hilarious! As Bruce Willis said to the cop in Die Hard, "Welcome to the party, pal!"

HRC's desperation looks more pathetic by the day. Her rage at Obama's taking "her place" as Democratic nominee in 2008 is palpable. I believe she's willingly doing everything possible to tear him down to mortally wound him and throw the election to McCain, so she can run again in 4 years (when she's 64) instead of 8 years (when she's 68). I have donated to her campaign in the past and regret it.

Folks, it was HRC who is responsible for ALL OF THE ATTACKS on Obama. Nafta, Wright, ALL OF IT. The repugs were saving their fun for the general, this was ALL HillBilly.

1) It was the 1st Armored Division 'Old ironsides', not the 1st Infantry Division 'The Big Red One'.

2) I was there in March, saw Sinbad in person- he was great. Just missed Sheryl Crow.

3) We received reports of all significant activity- if ANYONE was being shot at, we would have been alerted- let alone a VIP.

4) Tuzla airbase is very large- doubtful anyone could get a good shot in even if they wanted to.

5) BUT....there were active minefields and UXO all over Tuzla airbase so it was important not to wander off into certain unpaved, uncleared areas.

6) Sinbad is right- the food was good.

How many pinnochios got when he lied about never talking to the Canadian's about Nafta?

Politicians don't get it. You just can't lie anymore. We'll catch you at it. John Kerry didn't learn and got his behind kicked (they weren't flip-flops--they were lies). And don't get me started about the Christmas in Cambodia fantasy. (Later Kerry said he was confused on the date--you know because to Catholics, Christmas is just another day.) Obama thought he could lie about his church, but people like charles johnson were able to retrieve the truth before they deleted it from the church's site--statements like that his churched believed that God should be for black people and against white people. The truth is Obama probably joined for political reasons. but in refusing to tell the truth he just keeps getting more and more stuck.

So Hillary spun an obvious fantasy, and now she is being caught, too.

Its all because we have thousands of "google monkeys" around constantly fact-checking everything. The age of the internet, which credit where credit is due, largely grew up under Bill Clinton's watch, ironically is the best tool for good government ever invented.

r.mary...

Who was talking about NAFTA? Go that route and we can talk about HRC's three meetings on NAFTA which are documented in her schedule. Add 3 more Pinnocs.

But isn't the sniper fire seared, SEARED, in her memory?

All I can say is that I've simply had it. I was so thrilled at the prospect of a woman--especially THIS woman--running for president. Having voted for her husband twice, I figured it would be a win-win to have them in the White House again. She ran a brilliant and seemingly principled campaign. Then things changed when she couldn't give a straight answer about former Governor Spitzer's proposal to give licenses to illegal aliens. That's when the whole thing started to unravel.

I'm just exhausted and have had it up to my left eyeball. The sleazy tactics, the drama, the trifling and lowdown surrogates, throwing another party member under the bus to prop up herself and Senator McCain. Although it was dubious for her to claim that her 8 years as First Lady should be included in her "35 years of experience," I was willing to cut her some slack. She was clearly in a unique position given the breadth of her travels. Now it appears she has manufactured experience she clearly doesn't have. Her recounting of her trip to Bosnia was one of the biggest whoppers I've ever seen, and it's so sad to see the woman reduced to this. Dodging bullets? It was so dangerous, yet not only did she travel with a couple of entertainers, but her own child accompanied her on this trip. These lies and exaggerations of hers were so easily exposed by the others who accompanied her on the trip and apparently by her own records.

I don't even have the heart to touch on how she's being ridiculed in the UK for her dubious claims of helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland and bringing Protestant and Catholic women together. So sad!

You have to wonder what will qualify as WMD's if she answered the phone at 3am, and how big the "kitchen sink" that she throws at them will be.

"Her campaign referred me to Togo West, who was also on the trip and is a staunch Hillary supporter.(Togo West) said there was no reason to doubt the First Lady's version of events. "Everybody's perceptions are different," he told me."

This is the most astounding statement I have read in quite some time.

The Clintons aren't used to the American public using the Internet so readily to fact check and inform themselves. Clinton embellishing her foreign policy experience is only the tip of the deceptive ice burg that will sink this country farther into under education, war, fear and hate.

How do we know when Hillary is lying? Her lips are moving.

Thank you for preventing a Hillary presidency, Barack!

"Her campaign referred me to Togo West, who was also on the trip and is a staunch Hillary supporter.(Togo West) said there was no reason to doubt the First Lady's version of events. "Everybody's perceptions are different," he told me."

This is the most astounding statement I have read in quite some time.

Posted by: stonhinged | March 21, 2008 02:29 PM

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And Togo West is a military vet. He should have known the sound of gunfire when he heard it.

This pictue doesn't really disprove her claim--she could be using the little girl as a human shield!

It's amazing how all the democrats are now realizing what the republicans were saying during the 90's: the Clintons are unprincipled liars who will say anything, do anything, harm anyone who gets in the way of their quest for power.

But I'm sure you were all supporting Bill in the late 90's.

In reply to the aptly named "Old Ironsides," you are right. It was the 1st Armored Division, not the 1st Infantry Division, that was stationed in Tuzla at the time. I have corrected it. Thanks.

Folks, it was HRC who is responsible for ALL OF THE ATTACKS on Obama. Nafta, Wright, ALL OF IT. The repugs were saving their fun for the general, this was ALL HillBilly.

Posted by: Jonathan | March 21, 2008 01:58 PM

Calling all Cultist!!!!!!!!!!!

the Church was selling preacher man's hate speech in the lobby. Fox got it.

It is a case of Obama's chickens coming home to roost.

OK kiddies you can go play with the VRWC now and play pretend. Obama is magic and Bush is a man of honer and a first class leader. Don't think about it just saaay it over and over and over.

Then change to the GOP and stop messing up my party.

Indeed, here we have someone who makes up fanciful but untrue stories about how she got her name, and didn't even know the name of the Russian president-elect and as a result treated him to an unexpected "gender reassignment" by mangling "Medvedev" into "Medvedova".

And in the meantime, such a hullabaloo over Barack's middle name, about which he's never confabulated.

By the time this is over, we're gonna have to clear-cut the rest of the Amazon rain forest to get enough wood for her Pinocchios.

Note to Senator Clinton:

Never lie about a public event that is covered by 100 reporters, some of whom have cameras.

time to step up to the plate Hillary and meet all of these attacks head on like your opponent did. He's not attacking - his camp is presenting facts AFTER the newspapers all dug them up and got SOME of your papers. Please submit the income tax returns and lists of contributors before Pennsylvania and the other nine vote. It is simply not right that they don't have your "transparency" before going to the voting booth. And while you're at it - think you better finally discuss the 17 million dollar lawsuit against you & Bill re:
campaign fraud which is going to trial in a couple of months.
What's good for the goose as they say.

time to step up to the plate Hillary and meet all of these attacks head on like your opponent did. He's not attacking - his camp is presenting facts AFTER the newspapers all dug them up and got SOME of your papers. Please submit the income tax returns and lists of contributors before Pennsylvania and the other nine vote. It is simply not right that they don't have your "transparency" before going to the voting booth. And while you're at it - think you better finally discuss the 17 million dollar lawsuit against you & Bill re:
campaign fraud which is going to trial in a couple of months.
What's good for the goose as they say.

Thanks for the laughs. Truly. She was using the girl as a human shield.... priceless!

She is a filthy, disgusting, lying career politician. And if she wasn't married to a former president, she wouldn't be where she is today. (Winks and nods to Geraldine Ferraro.)

Why doesn't Hannity and Fox run this on an endless loop?

I am old enough to remember all of the head-spinning variations on the truth and emotional pendulum swings so often a prominent part of Bill Clinton's presidency. He and Hillary are a perfect match in that regard. Been there. Done that. SO last century!!!

I never thought I'd see the day when both the mother and the son from "The Manchurian Candidate" are both major candidates for President of the United States.

As long as HRC remains in the Race, FACT CHECKER will have full time job exposing ALL THE CLINTON LIES. You'll need LOTS OF
EXTRA staff, too -- the Marines, Boy Scouts, Mormon Tabernacle Choir ... etc etc etc

The CLINTONS (both) have always had SERIOUS problems with transparency and FULL DISCLOSURE. The CLINTONS feel so ENTITLED .. they think they really can DO ANYTHING to achieve their vested interests. If polls were ACCURATE, they would likely show A CLEAR 70% OF AMERICANS distrust the CLINTONS.

THEY achieved their massive wealth by SELLING their POLITICAL
power & assumed "presidential credibility" TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS. ALL THEIR WEALTH comes at the EXPENSE of American taxpayers. NO OTHER PRESIDENTIAL FAMILY HAS ENRICHED ITSELF LIKE THE CLINTONS.

I am a Bosnian living in the US now and I just about pooped myself when I first heard her claims. I didn't know if I should laugh or be pissed off. Took you guys long enough to call BS on it :)

During the entire decade long US engagement in Bosnia there wasn't a single hostile american casualty. There was a heartattack, a brawl between 2 US troops where one got stabbed. There was a few traffic accidents but I don't recall any casualties from those accidents.

Besides being stationed somewhere in Western Europe or maybe Japan, Bosnia was the best gig a soldier could possibly get. (Except maybe the first group that rolled in during winter that had to deal with all the rain and mud, but once the base was setup it was all gravy ;) )

The scariest thing is that she really believes her story is what happened. So if she dis-remembers this, then what else is she confused about?

WHO CARES!!! Let's get on with the real issues!!!

WHO CARES!!! Let's get on with the real issues!!!

To Don Hannaford:

"WHO CARES!!!"

You're kidding, right? Do you think it's okay for her to lie/mis-remember/confuse or - call it what you want - these important incidents? This is exactly like McCain "mis-speaking" on the ethnic divisions in Iraq and Iran. it shows ignorance and it shows arrogance. That's why we care.

I had a close family relative in Tuzla at the time of the courageous visit by the President and First Lady in 1996. He, along with 10,000 other U.S. airmen, tankers and paratroopers did not allow any snipers within 10 miles of the Clinton's party.There was no sniper fire and just so Mr. Hannaford knows what the real issue is, "She didn't tell the truth, Don". The truth, that's all, just the truth.
Do you honestly think that a setting U.S. President is going to be allowed to land where there is "sniper fire". Jesus! What a bunch of bunk! As I recall, one Secret Service agent literally sat on the top of LBJ when John Kennedy got shot in Dallas.
Hillary has a problem with the truth, like a lot of people do nowdays, but the difference is she is running for President! The closest Hillary has ever to a bullet is when she bit one to stay married to WCJ after the Monica fiasco.

HOW ABOUT FACT CHECKING OBAMA'S STATEMENTS. HE DIDN'T DO VERY MANY THINGS FOR THIS COUNTRY, SO HE CAN'T SAY THAT MUCH. I'M SORRY BUT HUFFINGTON POST IS SO BIASED. OBAMA WILL NEVER CARRY PENNSYLVANIA. THIS MAN WITH NO EXPERIENCE AND NOTHING BUT TALK TO GIVE TO THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT WIN THE PRESIDENCY. GO TO POLLSTER AND SEE WHERE OBAMA IS IN OHIO, MISSOURI, AND OTHER STATES, AND HOW HE MATCHES UP WITH MCCAIN.

HOW ABOUT FACT CHECKING OBAMA'S STATEMENTS. HE DIDN'T DO VERY MANY THINGS FOR THIS COUNTRY, SO HE CAN'T SAY THAT MUCH. I'M SORRY BUT HUFFINGTON POST IS SO BIASED. OBAMA WILL NEVER CARRY PENNSYLVANIA. THIS MAN WITH NO EXPERIENCE AND NOTHING BUT TALK TO GIVE TO THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT WIN THE PRESIDENCY. GO TO POLLSTER AND SEE WHERE OBAMA IS IN OHIO, MISSOURI, AND OTHER STATES, AND HOW HE MATCHES UP WITH MCCAIN.

As long as HRC remains in the Race, FACT CHECKER will have full time job exposing ALL THE CLINTON LIES. You'll need LOTS OF
EXTRA staff, too -- the Marines, Boy Scouts, Mormon Tabernacle Choir ... etc etc etc

The CLINTONS (both) have always had SERIOUS problems with transparency and FULL DISCLOSURE. The CLINTONS feel so ENTITLED .. they think they really can DO ANYTHING to achieve their vested interests. If polls were ACCURATE, they would likely show A CLEAR 70% OF AMERICANS distrust the CLINTONS.

THEY achieved their massive wealth by SELLING their POLITICAL
power & assumed "presidential credibility" TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS. ALL THEIR WEALTH comes at the EXPENSE of American taxpayers. NO OTHER PRESIDENTIAL FAMILY HAS ENRICHED ITSELF LIKE THE CLINTONS.

As long as HRC remains in the Race, FACT CHECKER will have full time job exposing ALL THE CLINTON LIES. You'll need LOTS OF
EXTRA staff, too -- the Marines, Boy Scouts, Mormon Tabernacle Choir ... etc etc etc

The CLINTONS (both) have always had SERIOUS problems with transparency and FULL DISCLOSURE. The CLINTONS feel so ENTITLED .. they think they really can DO ANYTHING to achieve their vested interests. If polls were ACCURATE, they would likely show A CLEAR 70% OF AMERICANS distrust the CLINTONS.

THEY achieved their massive wealth by SELLING their POLITICAL
power & assumed "presidential credibility" TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS. ALL THEIR WEALTH comes at the EXPENSE of American taxpayers. NO OTHER PRESIDENTIAL FAMILY HAS ENRICHED ITSELF LIKE THE CLINTONS.

It is inconceivable that the Professional Clinton Haters in the Media continue to doubt the future Saint Hillary of Little Rock.
Can the picture you have used leave any doubts?
Look, she is bending down. She is well below the level of the assorted random men and her daughter Chelsea. Since it is a still picture, we can see she is in a position that would enable her to run.
Presumably, she is preparing to pick up the cute little girl to protect her from the sniper fire -- what selflessness, to protect a Muslim child she has never met, ahead of her own flesh and blood daughter.
And like all really responsible leaders she knows that a smile calms children, which is why she is projecting this appearance of joyous normalcy under intense sniper fire which represented mortal danger to her and all those around (the guy aren't ducking because they're either brain dead or too ungallant to protect the little girl).
When this picture tells the whole story, surely you are one of those papers that has decided Barack (lucky to be Black!) Obama is somehow a more inspirational figure than Saint Hillary.
Be really, really careful what you say about the Infallible Clintons -- ever wonder how many singing Gennifer Flowers got after Hillary was through with her?

I served as the Air National guard Special Assistant to the Commander of U.S. Air Forces Europe during this period. The Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves Played a vital role in Bosnia in airlift, communications, air traffic control, and medical evacuation. I visited our pre-deployment staging base in Tezar, Hungary, received the pre-deployment threat analysis intelligence briefing and in turned briefed it to the Director of the Air National Guard and his staff in the Pentagon. I visited Tuzla 3 times, once just after we deployed into the area and twice afterward. My official visits took place both before and after this March date in question. As "Old Ironsides" stated the hazard of mines was the major threat locally. We were initially also concerned about anti-aircraft threats and potential sniper fire. I inquired about these threats on each visit and was told that they had not materialized. One of the firsts tasks of the 1st Armored Division was to push the base perimeter security out far enough to prevent exactly the sniper fire that was alleged. It is of course possible that a sniper could have penetrated that security , but I was not made aware of it in any briefings I received.

There are only three ways to explain Clinton's story here:

a) She is a baldfaced liar;

b) Her perception of reality is utterly skewed, or

c) Her memory is utterly demented.

In any of these scenarios, Clinton proves herself the wrong person for the presidency. Do we want a liar in office? We've already had two of them for the past 15 years, and that hasn't worked out so well for the country. Do we want someone with no grasp of reality? Again, our current president? Do we want someone with no clear sense of memory? Well, only if we are willing to risk Clinton forgetting that Britain is our ally and ordering the overthrow of Gordon Brown.

Seriously, a story like this sounds sexy in a speech, but even listening to it in a speech, I can't imagine buying into a fantastic load of garbage like this. The Secret Service is never going to put any member of the First Family in a war zone where they are likely to be shot.

I don't know, maybe that little girl reading the poem was actually radioing coordinates to some sniper in the hills, and maybe there were invisible, silent bullets flying around that only Clinton perceived. If this is the case, however, then I think that Democrats ought to go ahead and nominate Obama, while Clinton can continue to live happily in her fantasy world being president. Seriously, Clinton won't be able to tell the difference. (Just make sure the walls are padded.)

Ready to LIE on Day One!!

I am glad the truth about her international experience is being revealed. I wish she would just go quietly back to New York or Arkansas.

It's interesting how most commenters perceive Mr Dobbs credibility in inverse proportion to their support for his subject.

It's interesting how most commenters perceive Mr Dobbs' credibility in inverse proportion to their support for his subject.

snap.

I, on the other hand, never waver in my absolute conviction of Mr Dobbs' useless hackitude. Call me a purist.

I LOVE this. You dems are gonna fight all the way to the riots at the convention. EXcellent...

In Hillary's defense, how is a person supposed to keep all of this straight, what with all these WMD, cluster bombs, sniper fire, phone calls at 3 am, kitchen sinks, am I Republican or Democratic? -- it's almost too much. Oh well, perceptions vary.

Hillary's put down of Sinbad as just a "comedian" is so typical of her character. Sinbad though admittedly not a military hero did serve in the US Air Force as an enlisted air crew member, and does know his way around things military.

When Hillary is caught in another lie, Clintonistas call it "Hillary bashing" and anti-women sexism. Will the Democratic Party ever cure itself of the mendacious Clinton incubus?

Mr. Dobbs,

PLEASE send this video along with Mrs. Clinton's George Washington speech excerpt to every single TV station, YouTube, et al, and have it played as often as the Rev Wright video.
Then we need to get Hillary Clinton to answer to the American voters on this big whopper and all her recent foreign policy whoppers BEFORE too many more Democrats make the mistake of voting for her.
Mrs Clinton stretches First Amendement protection just too far - there aren't enough Pinnochios for the campaign she's been running recently.
PLEASE - let's see the reality of her landing and her lies on national TV.
Thank you
AMC

We have to keep this in some perspective. Yes she clearly exagerated her risk but compared to the world class liars who have dropped from the Republican race, her offenses were minimal.

So it appears that Hillary Clinton failed the "all-important Commander-in-Chief" test by lying on her exam.

Not only has she not "crossed the Commander-in-Chief threshhold," she was nowhere near the doorway.

Good job, Michael Dobbs! Good Job!

Who could believe that a presidential candidate could be so D U M B !

What is really scary is that Clinton is aiding in a potential self destruction of the Democratic Party's chances in November.

All you primary voters yet to vote (PA), and super-delegates, think of this. As a practical matter, your supporting HRC has become equivalent to putting McCain in the White House. Mark my words.

GP

Hillary Can't Win! She will always be behind in delegates and the popular vote. Now, spin that! I guess she should have campaigned in those meaningless states after all.

Sinbad = 1
Clinton = 0

Why lie about something so trivial, and so easily proven false? Causes concern about her arrogance and willingness to lie about big things. The type of things that will undermine her presidency and the Democratic agenda.

"Not credible"? Isn't that a bit like saying Obama's pastor uses "divisive" language. How about "a flat out lie." And, while we're at it, "racist."

GREAT NEWS FOR HILLARY!!! Mark Penn has already addressed this story, everyone knows that Bosnia doesn't count. The only exaggerated stories of Hillary in peril that count are in big countries that will be important in November.

Also, Sinbad DEFINITELY doesn't count. Only big comedians.

I CONCUR: 4 Pinocchios. Of course: "ALL [THE CLINTONS] WEALTH comes at the EXPENSE of American taxpayers. NO OTHER PRESIDENTIAL FAMILY HAS ENRICHED ITSELF LIKE THE CLINTONS."

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION ALL THEIR CRONIES, BUT IF YOU LOVE THE CLINTONS, YOU'LL LOVE THIS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RATE IT ON THE PINOCCHIO SCALE: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Sniper fire? It depends on what the definition of snipe is. People are always sniping at Hillary, for lying about this, or lying about that. Has Hillary ever landed anywhere without the vast right-wing conspiracy and Republican attack machine sniping at her? She's been sniped at all her life. So, sure, when she landed in Bosnia she expected sniper fire, just likes she's running for cover now because of all the sniper fire.

For Pete's sake, DNC, get this wretched Clinton off the national stage, now.

I was in Bosnia at that time. The active fighting had stopped, but freshly arrived US Armed Forces considered it a combat zone and followed the appropriate rules of engagement.

That meant sharp descent and ascent during landing and takeoff procedures and mandatory helmets and flak-jackets for all personnel. At the slightest alarm, everyone would duck into shelters, fearing the attack (no US troops were ever attacked during their engagement in Bosnia).

I can only imagine how paranoid US security must have been surrounding Hillary's visit and what impression it left on her and her entourage.

After her visit, Hillary Clinton put her clout behind securing the funding for Bosnian Women's Initiative, which de facto served as the primary funding source for the nascent non-profit sector in Bosnia:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/print.php?pid=53015

Strengthening such initiatives had a significant impact on securing peace through economic strengthening of women:

http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2005/0418/158.html

If you want to push this story, why not ask Bosnians themselves about how they value her role?

I would point out that the Speechwriter is no doubt correct as to what happened. It is SOP in the military to do a tight decent into any combat zone, and I would imagine with the VIP status of Hillary and Chelsea they would have undergone every precaution. AND I am sure they would have been fully briefed to that effect. If there was even a remote danger of Sniper fire, I am sure they would put the First Lady in the armored portion, just to keep her form putting her face in the window. and considering how the President travels abroad, a gunship escort in a war zone seems prudent.
As a reporter, would you agree with my assesment?

A diagnosis by a psychiatrist would be interesting, to find out if she pathologically incapable of distinguishing truth from fantasy.

am4lib: This is not the point. You can be in a war zone, you can have sharp ascents and descents til the cows come home. If you are running from sniper fire, then you are running from sniper fire, and there's no doubt. But if your picture is taken, all smiles, kissing a little girl on the tarmac and you weren't running from sniper fire, ducking, etc. then to say so is.... what? A lie? An embellishment? How, then, afterwards, are we to know when you lie and embellish? Have a little integrity, a little maturity and a little less insecurity. Especially if you are trying to become the President of the United States. Does she think we are stupid?

Do you get it?

Well, it goes without saying, Hillary is a liar here. And frankly I'm disgusted with Michael Dobbs because he didn't give her tens or hundreds of "Pinocchio"s for this. But at the end of the day, Obama has had a crazy, racist, un-American preacher for 20 years, and his wife is un-American too. No wonder people can't decide the nomination yet. It may end up like the 2000 general election between Bush and Gore with hanging chads and one wins the delegates and one gets the popular vote and noone is happy! Probably Hillary will appear in George W. Bush's role in the 2000 election and Obama will portray Al Gore in this re-run of history in miniature.

Regarding Hilary's comment:
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
She is actually putting it lightly here. In fact, my recollection (I was there) was the pilot was shot and Hillary landed the plane herself. The plane was surrounded by enemy fighters and the plane was taking fire. Then Hillary burst out with an M60 belt fed machinegun blazing and took out the enemy fighters one by one in a terrific burst of fire with Chelsea ducking right behind her. She finished a few off with carefully aimed hand grenades (I specifically recall Hillary pulls the pins out with her teeth). At the end of the engagement she had killed almost two hundred enemy and recaptured the airport. This is the kind of woman we need as President.

Martin, I was thinking about a DSM dx for Hillary in light of this story; pathological liar surely comes to mind. (For attribution sake: I am not a medical doctor nor a psychologist, therefore this opinion makes no claim as a diagnosis. Please refer Hillary Rodham Clinton to a qualified professional for assessment and diagnosis).

The Fourth Estate lives! Thanks, Fact Checker. How tawdry it is for Clinton, who has staked her nomination on her experience being superior to Obama's, to claim to have been in a war a la Bush 43 with his flight suit. More and more, she seems like Bush in drag.

Don't you think that if you were issued a flak vest and told that the ceremony on the tarmac may have to be cancelled because of sniper fire, and then were moved to the bulletproof cockpit for the landing, that you might feel that there was some danger out there? As it turns out, they were permitted to go ahead with the ceremony. But precautions were taken and warnings given. Just because Sinbad wasn't kept abreast of the entire situation (afterall, the gov't may think it can afford to lose a 2nd rate comedian) it doesn't mean there wasn't something going on that he was not privy to. In light of the updated testimony, I think four Pinochios is a little harsh.

Yes, Hillary is blatantly lying here. But Obama sold out his grandmother by comparing her to a man that says AIDS is a purposeful government plot to kill millions. And Obama sends his kids to hear these hateful lies every week. makes Hillary's lie here seem trivial. Never trust a man that would sell out his own grandmother.

What do you expect? She is a known pathological liar, as is her sleazy cheating husband.

No sense saying anything else.

Why don't you fact-check Obama's claims that he didn't know the things Wright was saying, that he contradicted in his "Great Race speech" when he finally fessed up to his awareness of his pastor's inappropriate remarks!

If she'll lie as a candidate, she'll lie as a president.

If the Democrats were smart, they'd rally around Obama and move forward into new territory.

I like Obama's foreign policay experience going to Libya iwth Wright to meet Kadafi. Obama is not going to the White House because Dems are going to vote for McCain in November. Hillary at least knows the White House ways. Maybe she did not sign any peace agreements but I have no doubt she could. Obama still has identity issues. Primarily he thinks he is already nominated and voted into office. Only Obama his cool-aid drinkers and the DNC think he will get to the White House. He may get defeated Hillary using the race card but he won't get past disenfranchised voters in November and the McCain machine. I am voting straight ticket Republican and I am a Black Hispanic Democrat with old folks in Florida.

Grace California

Sgt Rock (3/21 9:22pm):

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

more lulz (3/21 4:50pm):

"Ready to LIE on Day One!" ...priceless. :-D

I also heard, Hillary discovered The New World, invented the Smallpox vaccine, and was single-handedly responsible for winning World Wars I and II.

( I don't think, reality is a concern for the Clintons. )

Obama '08.

To Grace California:

Surely you are also lying cause I am having a hard time imagining a Black Hispanic Democrat named California who hails from Florida and who knows a lot of old folks...You have just summed up the Hillary campaign...But i will tell you that you will soon run out of money and your old folks in Flori-Duh won't help much.

Cio

Hillary has told plenty of whoppers but this really takes the cake. I guess the more desperate she gets, the bigger the whopper!

I was stationed in Bosnia in the military several years after this event. The Tuzla airport area was not remotely dangerous when I was there, perhaps it was more so earlier. It was surrounded by hills but I'm sure this event would have made headlines had it occurred.

What else do people need to know about thees people(Clintons).Is this not evidence enough ?For the good of the country I hope many more women would wake-up and see HClinton is unworthy of being the first women Prez.She is simply a damn lair.Have we not had enough of this from Bush, lieing & obfuscation ?

Perhaps SEN. CLINTON should be cut some slack regarding her exaggerations and apparent falsehoods. They may not in fact be outright lies. People with narcassistic and or histrionic personality disorders behave much in the same way and, indeed, such behaviour speaks more to medical, rather than character, issues.

GO TO YOUTUBE AND LISTEN TO REVEREND WRIGHT'S ENTIRE SPEECH, FOX NEWS WITH THE CLINTON'S HELP PUT OUT A SMEAR CAMPAIGN, AT NO TIME IN THAT SPEECH DOES HE SAY GODDAMN AMERICA, IN THE SPEECH HE STATED A FOOTNOTE WHICH MEANS THAT IT WAS NOT A PART OF HIS SPEECH, HE WAS QUOTING FORMER AMBASSADOR EDWARD PECK THAT WAS A CONTRIBUTOR TO FOX NEWS, SO PEOPLE READ, LISTEN AND LEARN, THE WHOLE CAST AT FOX NEWS SHOULD BE FIRED F OR RACE BAITING, WITH JUST SOUNDBITES, I AM SHOCKED AT CNN AND MSNBC, GO TO YOUTUBE, YOUTUBE.

Hilary's past experience in answering the phone at 3AM:

" Wake up Bill there's a phone call for you"

Senator Hilary looks like a boxer very optimistic before a fight. But seems to face an inevitable T.ko in a long run ! Then, he decides, she decides to throw any kind of punches which put her unbalanced,
at the mercy of the people verdict.

Mr Can who I believe will be the nominee and the President of the United States of America!It a matter of judgment over a door's listener in Washington foreign office affairs.

Cromwell

A careful study of the photo accompanying this article clearly shows that Hillary is bending forward to shield the terrified Muslim girl from sniper fire. The apparent lack of response of the others around her is further proof of Hillary's ability to act in times of crisis, even while others are unaware of the danger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c

you can compare the video of what happened with video of what she says happened right now...you be the judge.

Hillary is such an unashamed liar, it is no point in saying to her, "Shame on you!" The Clintons are shameless, and in their lust to return to the WH they are prepared to destroy Senator Obama, the Democratic Party and our country and the younger generation. President Clinton's horrible slurs on Senator Obama's patriotism, Hillary's endorsement of McCain over Obama, their playing of the gender and race cards, her lies on NAFTA, etc, etc--it is TIME for the party leaders (Gore, Pelosi, Edwards, Biden, etc) to place the Clinton Dynasty in the wastebasket of history and to turn the page for a new America of WE the people, of all colors, creeds, genders, and classes. The Clinton machine is going berserk and taking us all down with it.

THIS JUST IN: The Wright flap has officially fizzled. Despite the media's best efforts to fan the flames of racial mistrust, America has risen above the fray. Congratulations, people. Bad news for the Clinton strategists and their compadres at RushLimbaugh.com. Maybe you can go back to trying to convince people he's a Muslim. Didn't work very well, but you need something to keep yourselves busy as her campaign circles the drain.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/21/opinion/polls/main3958295.shtml?source=mostpop_story

"Most voters following the events say they will make no difference in their vote. Seventy percent say the events will make no difference in their vote. Among those who said it would, 14 percent said it makes them more likely to vote for Obama while an equal number said it makes them less likely to support him.

Nearly a quarter of Democrats say the events have made them more likely to back Obama, while a similar number of Republicans say they are now less likely to do so. Three in four independents say the events make no difference, and the remainder are nearly evenly split between those more likely to support him and those less likely to do so."

this is classic!

:)

:)

:)

go hillary, go!

A GRAND BARGAIN FOR DEMOCRATIC PARTY UNITY

It is clear, with Politico.com reporting that even Hillary's campaign is coming to the rational conclusion that she has--at best--a ten percent chance of winning, that uniting the Democratic Party around Barack Obama is imperative.

Here is a solution that allows everyone to take something from the table, which is what it is going to take for the Party to begin the healing process.

A deal should be struck whereby Hillary agrees to withdraw from the race, and Obama agrees to let most of the Florida and Michigan delegations be seated at the convention.

Hillary could then claim a victory of sorts, as making this the "price" of a dignified exit would allow her to say she is putting the Party's prospects in November above her own ambitions.

It would also help the Democrats win those two states in the general election.

It requires noblesse oblige from both sides.

Obama clearly has it.

And if Hillary takes the deal, it would do a lot for her restoring the family legacy that this ugly campaign, and especially Bill Clinton's role in it, has so tarnished.

A GRAND BARGAIN FOR DEMOCRATIC PARTY UNITY

It is clear, with Politico.com reporting that even Hillary's campaign is coming to the rational conclusion that she has--at best--a ten percent chance of winning, that uniting the Democratic Party around Barack Obama is imperative.

Here is a solution that allows everyone to take something from the table, which is what it is going to take for the Party to begin the healing process.

A deal should be struck whereby Hillary agrees to withdraw from the race, and Obama agrees to let most of the Florida and Michigan delegations be seated at the convention.

Hillary could then claim a victory of sorts, as making this the "price" of a dignified exit would allow her to say she is putting the Party's prospects in November above her own ambitions.

It would also help the Democrats win those two states in the general election.

It requires noblesse oblige from both sides.

Obama clearly has it.

And if Hillary takes the deal, it would do a lot for her restoring the family legacy that this ugly campaign, and especially Bill Clinton's role in it, has so tarnished.

hillary's new campaign managers have a new plan.

beginning monday, mar24, they have devised a new introduction for the former first lady to use;

hillary; "im hillary, hillary gump. what is your name?"

the clinton camp hopes that america will sympathize with the bimbo and say, "RUN HILLARY, RUN!!!"

they expect that hillary will yell back, "i'm hillary.. hillary gump. stupid is, as stupid does.."

and with that, they expect her to become president.

personally, i think it is an awesome strategy!!!

who needs florida when you have hillary gump????

hillary, "life is like a box of chocolates.. you never know what you are going to get... but since i was the one that got the box of chocolates, i ate them all. so you don't get any. period. i'm hillary... hillary gump."

Interesting how similar this story is to one that LBJ used in establishing credibility as a young WWII "veteran" for his Senate run in 1948.. As related by Robert Caro in his exhaustive 3 vol. biography of LBJ,he was on a Congressional junket in the South Pacific on a Navy transport plane (inspecting how well supplied our troops were) when he came under fire from the Japanese. Upon his return he was awarded a medal which he displayed at campaign events. Only problem was - Caro reveals - it wasn't a true story. He was in absolutely no danger - there is doubt about whether there was any fire in the area, and the medal application was submitted without any verification by anyone on the plane.
Which, along with Clinton's incredibly high margin in the Rio Grande valley counties in Texas, leads me to the question: what is on Mark Penn's bookshelf? Probably "The Path to Power" by Robert Caro.

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/god-bless-you-heather/

Posted by: old_europe

Heather Mills? Why would Hillary do an infomercial for Heather Mills??? Was Heather Mills running for something? This is way too weird.

What is new here? We all know that the Clinton's are liars.

Hillary's account must be accurate, if not true. You can see in the photo that she ducked down in time to avoid getting hit by sniper fire! Besides, she never actually said their were bullets in the guns.

You all are acting like she inflates her resume and adds an air of self-importance and dramatic punch to her stories.

I mean, who are you going to believe, the Senator from New York and ex-first lady with 35 years of dedicated public service, who's husband is the the ex-president, or your lying eyes?

Whomever is wondering where our esteemed fellow citizens, svreader, badger3 and others are I direct you to the same place they always are.
The state of denial.
It would be nice if Hillary would make an agreement or do some other honorable thing to suspend her campaign, but she won't.
The only thing that will work is Obama securing enough delegates to win the nomination.
Even if he does Hillary & her supporters will bring suit over; Florida, Michigan, Texas and the caucus states and their results.
Whatever it takes she will do.
Even if it requires freezing the nominating convention with litigation so it would be unable to function.
After all, James Carville believes that Richardson is a Judas participating in a historical reenactment according to the NY Times.
I can only surmise what the Clinton's will do when the are left with no other conclusion that the party & the voters have committed treason in mass.
This is why they are operating in such a way as to deliberately weaken Obama and any down ticket democrat that supports him.
The Clinton's and their supporters have indeed launched a preemptive civil war and there will be no end to it.
Ever.
The Clinton's never forgive or forget and they are keeping book now.

C'mon people- she said that they were running for safety 'with our heads down'. Take a look at that picture- there's a bullet whizzing over her head and she's running for safety with her head down while rescuing and consoling that child at the same time. So she's brave and heroic too!

At least that's probably what the Clinton campaign will tell us next...

I have been worried about whether Barack Obama can win against the Republican blitzkrieg they will throw at him, but I am ruluctantly beginning to believe that Hilllary Clinton is indeed to loose with the facts and lies when her campaign folks tell her to.
I have had enough lies since Bush v. Gore in
2000.
Roll Bama
Roll tide

it's double-talk like this, along with obama's "not ever hearing" jeremiah wright's vitriol and then changing his story in his speech to "i heard it, but he had reasons for saying it", that are very well going to put john mccain in office in november.

keep talking, guys...

oh, and to the person who wrote "THIS JUST IN: The Wright flap has officially fizzled. Despite the media's best efforts...":

sorry to burst your bubble, but...

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_320_294.aspx

I'm just wondering when the Washington Post is going to go through Senator Obama's 11,000 pages of documented service to our nation?

Instead of spending his time and money ridiculing the experience of the former First Lady of the United States, why doesn't Barack Obama just lay his own 11,000 pages and let the media and the voters compare?

You know whats more scarier than that?
Her followers,they will still vote for her.

On John McCain`s web site there is a Medal of Honor winner that say`s him and John McCain fought several battles together and John McCain is a real warrior.
All of the battles in Viet Nam,and,all other wars had names.I would like to know the names of the battles that John McCain and the Honor winner fought together.
Did McCain really strap this gut to one of his wings,or what?
Did the NAVY allow John McCain to go into the jungle to fight with the "Grunts"?

Well, I guess it depends on what the meaning of "sniper fire" is...

to zanner1:

Yes, zanner, you might think there was danger, since, when you fly in to, say, London, flak jackets are not part of the landing procedure. But when you got out on to the tarmac to see that nothing was amiss, then you shouldn't say in a speech years later that you were being sniped at and all hell was breaking loose and you had to run, ducking, to the terminal building. To do so is, at best, embellishment, as others here have pointed out, You could also call it lying, a personal characteristic we have already seen in a President for 8 years.

I'm less concerned by the 'sniper fire' comment than by her comment that there was no ceremony. She had access to her own diaries yet didn't check them before saying there was no ceremony. That shows lack of commpetence by her and her campaign staff.

The sniper 'memory' might be a conflation of the reports of snipers in the vicinity and having to duck their he ads for disembarking from the helicopter at another stop.

Hillary sure had some interesting times after falling down that rabbit hole.

'Ready to exaggerate from day one'

For once it would be nice to the The Media treat Hillary and Obama the same way they treat their Maverick Saint John of Hagee Endorsement.

They should both get together and throw a little champagne BBQ bash for the press.

McCain might even ask his very rich wife rent out her Sedona "cabin" to those campaigns for the event.

He won't have to worry, because the press loves being in his pocket and, Lord knows, he could sure use the Dems money.

Clinton 'Cool under fire " a wonderful subject for a SNL skit. Ha, Ha Ha. Did Clinton just fail the honesty test .

Clinton 'Cool under fire " a wonderful subject for a SNL skit. Ha, Ha Ha. Did Clinton just fail the honesty test .

Clinton 'Cool under fire " a wonderful subject for a SNL skit. Ha, Ha Ha. Did Clinton just fail the honesty test .

Maybe you should scrutinize Sen. Obama's record as intensely. Oh, wait - Sen. Obama has no record - my bad!

Hillary Clinton and now Bill Clinton - again - are doing the Democratic Party such a disservice. She is being completely dishonest, fake, and disingenuous. Come August, when the party implodes, it will take generations to rebuild. I hope she will be happy with herself. She thinks she's more electable, since she doesn't believe America is ready to vote for a Black president. This is okay, but if she wrestles the nomination away from him, only through the super delegates, I hope the party is ready to deal with the consequences of the disillusioned. Let Barack, like nominees who came before him, Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, Carter, Mondale, win or lose on his own merits.

Fact Checker,
can you please check on Hilary's NAFTA claim for all to see. She said during a recent campaign stop that she did oppose NAFTA from the beginning. Now we see her schedules released. Sho is telling the truth?

Everybody had to wear flak jackets going into Tuzla. And, they always flew combat approaches into Tuzla - always.
Also, she flew into Tuzla on a C-17 because it was still a shiny new airplane, and a lot more comfortable than the C130s most (like me) were riding "downrange".

you must be proud of your version of the truth, all slanted to reflect your bias in favouring obama . are you discounting the almost 50% of demacrats who support hillary as racist bigots. shame . a pox on your house. looks like you want to annoint another "dubya". congrats.

you must be proud of your version of the truth, all slanted to reflect your bias in favouring obama . are you discounting the almost 50% of demacrats who support hillary as racist bigots. shame . a pox on your house. looks like you want to annoint another "dubya". congrats.

you must be proud of your version of the truth, all slanted to reflect your bias in favouring obama . are you discounting the almost 50% of demacrats who support hillary as racist bigots. shame . a pox on your house. looks like you want to annoint another "dubya". congrats.

you must be proud of your version of the truth, all slanted to reflect your bias in favouring obama . are you discounting the almost 50% of demacrats who support hillary as racist bigots. shame . a pox on your house. looks like you want to annoint another "dubya". congrats.

you must be proud of your version of the truth, all slanted to reflect your bias in favouring obama . are you discounting the almost 50% of demacrats who support hillary as racist bigots. shame . a pox on your house. looks like you want to annoint another "dubya". congrats.

So once again, the press wants to report what it wants to report. Even with amendments to the initial statements by involved parties, you are still claiming she had lied. And of course the Obama followers just don't care about real facts such as Obama's association with Rezko and Wright. What do you expect, the press and Obamaites will always trust the veracity of a blatant Obama supporter such as Sinbad, who obviously has a lot to gain from being in the lime light. Washington Post, I am disappointed in your reporting. You are abetting the Obama camp in Clinton's character assassination. You can bet on it, Obama if he is the nominee, will lose the general election. He is a complete turn off.

ARE WE GOING TO EAT HERE - OR AT THE NEXT PLACE!1!!!!1

I guess the sniper's were to busy with Ron Brown to worry with Hillary.

I really don't understand this vitriolic level of discourse. After all that the Clintons have done for the Democratic party and this country. How soon we forget their virtues and obsess over their failings.

Frankly, I would have preferred any one of several other candidates, not Clinton or Obama, a candidate that did not have so many negatives. It is the Independents and the Regan Democrats who will decide this race. Neither Obama nor Clinton will get the vote of the hard right, no Democrat is likely to do that.

We need to think carefully whether Obama can win a national campaign for the Presidency. We have become enamored with Obama, an attractive orator who to date has little to recommend him except his appeal to our entirely legitimate desire to move to a better place. But what is the evidence that he can take us there, i.e.,the question is simply stated - can he win the Presidency?

We are seriously underestimating the kind of campaign the hard right will run. These ads may be unfair and vicious, but they will be effective. These ads will cost the Democratic slate 2%-5% points, just enought to elect McCain. Then we can live with a generation of Supreme Court Justices like Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts.

Imagine the series of campaign ads we will be seeing. We will see political ad after political ad, showing Obama walking his children into church, with a voice over calling Rev Wright his spiritual mentor. This will be followed by the Rev.'s rant of "God damn America", ending with Mrs. Obama's unfortunate wording of her "recently discovered" pride in being an American.

Certainly, Clinton is also susceptible to negative ads, but we know what they will be and we know Clinton can handle them. She has done so time after time.

But we are where we are, we have to do the best we can with what we have, Obama or Clinton. It is kidding ourselves to think that the average American will elect to the Presidency someone, who in their view, is tainted as unAmerican, even chosing to raise his precious children under an unAmerican environment.

If we keep on the way we are going, we will live with a continuation of the Bush White House - we will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I implore you to stop these attacks and do a little serious thinking about the bigger picture. We need a Democratic President right now. We need this a lot more than we need a Black President or a female President.

Behind every slick man is a slick wife.

Fact checker- How about fact checking all the Obama lies in his Lincoln and Kennedy like speech. You know, that cover my butt speech. For clarity, the one where he accuses his grandmother,you, me and Wright for being racist but not him. Remember? Compare his speech statements against his three Friday interviews.

Have you gone above two pinocchios on Obama yet? Don't believe so? He has told some whoppers. Kinda questions your credibility doesn't it?

so all anyone wants to talk about is a pastor, but we have video proof now here that Hillary lied about this, and her First Lady papers show she lied about NAFTA...

I guess if its not sex or religion, the people dont care.

What I just can't understand is why the
so-called Superdelegates are just standing
mute, allowing The Clintons destroy any
chance whatsoever the Democrats have of
winning the White House. There is NOTHING
super about them! Super-Wimps is more like
it!

But, oh, well, it's their party and they can cry if they want to, which they surely
will be doing come November...