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Readers Respond: CD-Video Lives! (Sort Of)

I should have known this by now, but I got a fresh reminder on Monday--no technology, however forgotten it may be among the general public, vanishes completely.

This episode started with last week's chat, when I got this odd query:

Rosslyn, Va.: Ok, keeping in the grab-bag spirit, here's a random one for you. In 1989 I bought David Bowie's "Sound & Vision" box set (CD version). One of the discs included is what I understand to be a "CD-Video" format video disc. Not at that time, nor throughout all the years since have I ever owned an electronic device that could read this disc. So my question is - are there still devices out there that could play this, or is this a long-dead format whose only compatible devices would be in a museum or attic?

I answered the question almost completely inaccurately in the chat, then returned to the topic and did some actual research for Sunday's Help File column. There, I gave a brief history of the format, explained how it had gone extinct by sometime in the mid 1990s and, in so many words, told the chatter "you're out of luck playing this video."

Then I got an a-mail Monday morning from a reader:

If it helps, I have a Pioneer CLD-1090 Laserdisc player that reads DC-Videos.

If your reader is interested, have him or her contact me via email and I'll be happy to help if possible.

I'm not interested in selling the player, but would be happy to use it to copy to another format.

Another reader wrote in not long after with a similar offer:

I noted the letter in yesterday's paper from the guy with the David Bowie CD-V. As it happens, I am the proud owner of a Pioneer CLD-1070 (and I don't live in a museum). Tho' I've only played laser discs on it, the machine is labeled as a "CD/CDV/LD" player, so I would think it would play your boy's David Bowie box set. Since I was considering putting it on the curb with one of those "Free to a good home" signs, I would be willing to part with it in exchange for, say, a 6-pack of Guinness and another of Harp. (I drive a hard bargain, don't I?)

So, frustrated Bowie fan: E-mail me, and I'll put you in touch. As for the rest of y'all--let's make today's comments thread a show-and-tell session. Tell everybody about the most obscure, yet still functioning, gadget you have in your possession.

By Rob Pegoraro |  March 12, 2008; 8:49 AM ET  | Category:  Video
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A Nintendo Virtual Boy. Gaming in 3-D never looked so sweet. Or headache inducing...

Posted by: Shawn | March 12, 2008 10:59 AM

Still use my N64, and my Sega Genesis is still operational.....

Posted by: Kim | March 12, 2008 11:43 AM

I still have an Atari 800 I drag out for nostalgia every now and then. However, the output connectors are those old antenna connectors that look like mini tuning forks. I have to go through about four different signal converters just to hook it up to a modern tv.

Posted by: Adam | March 12, 2008 11:50 AM

As soon as I finish this, I'm heading out to the Computer History Museum where we have a complete IBM 1401 set-up working - I'm on the IBM 513 card duplicator team (1939, for this machine.) It works fine, now.
Oh, you said "in your possession"? Well, there's the Epson MX-80 dot matrix printer. We lent that to researchers at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center a few years ago - you can't label frozen samples with an ink jet (the ink runs) or a laser (letters fall off when frozen). So I still keep it around. And there's the Leading Edge N3/SX Notebook Computer, the first notebook that sold for under $1000. But it needs a new screen. Anybody got one? The Computer History Museum wants it if we can find a good screen.

Posted by: Judith | March 12, 2008 12:07 PM

An Apple Newton :)

Posted by: patrick | March 12, 2008 12:10 PM

Somewhere along the line my Atari died, but my original NES still works. There is something I find very nice about technology that can be fixed with a lung full of air.

Also, I never forget the cheat code for Contra.

Posted by: michael | March 12, 2008 12:11 PM

I was an early, early adopter of the MiniDisc format. Mine still works, although its discs only hold (I think) 700 MB, about the size of a standard CD. And there's no way to copy songs to this version other than to record them in real time. I used it for a while before I got my iRiver (256 MB with FM tuner -- on/off button broke, so doesn't count as still functioning). I've always thought it would still be good for recording interviews, etc. More portable than a laptop -- although, again, I'd have to copy the audio files to an editor in real time.

Posted by: JC | March 12, 2008 12:13 PM

I still have a working NEC MobilePro Windows CE PDA/PocketPC. I bought it in 1998 as a personal organizer and used it for work for a few years, until I replaced it with a Palm Vx in 2000. The PDA has pocket version of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint and IE, has a VGA cable to connect it to a projector, and includes a modem, a PC Card slot and a Compact Flash card slot. Unfortunately the OS doesn't support Wi-Fi so I can't use it as a mobile web browser. It's been in a drawer at work for about five years, waiting for me to throw it out. But I can't bring myself to do it. It was $800 in 1998, an outrageous amount of money for me at the time, and I'm still feeling guilty about buying it.

Posted by: Phil | March 12, 2008 12:35 PM

For one player:
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, b, a, start.

For two players:
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, right, left, right,
b, a, select, start.

Posted by: michael | March 12, 2008 1:38 PM

I have a portable C-64 computer. It has a 5" or so screen and looks like a grey suitcase about 12"x18"x5" in size. Still working fine.

My old PET 2001 in the "futuristic" looking case also still boots up.

Great classics!

Posted by: Roy | March 12, 2008 1:40 PM

JC,

I have the original-format MiniDisc recorder deck and a portable player (bought it from a friend who had gotten the package and didn't want to keep it), and more recently got one of the newer "Hi-MD" portable recorders. I've been using it to digitize record albums, since when I try doing it straight to a computer's sound card the CPU sometimes gets too busy with other things and drops samples.

In any case, when you record in "PCM" mode (not ATRAC) with Hi-MD you can download the raw data via USB without any DRM (even on my Mac); there are other alternatives to upload / download via USB, subject to Sony's DRM restrictions.

Posted by: Charles | March 12, 2008 2:08 PM

Up Up Down Down
Left right left right
b a
select??? I don't remember if select was actually included or not.
start

Posted by: Robbo | March 12, 2008 2:09 PM

Toshiba HD-DVD player. Doh!

Posted by: M Street | March 12, 2008 2:13 PM

I still have a working Commodore VIC-20 as well as a working, and quite obscure, Commodore 16. Both are packed away in their original boxes. I had hoped to boot up the VIC-20 and recover (via cassette tape) some old BASIC programs from my youth, but alas, I haven't made the time to do it.

Posted by: Anon | March 12, 2008 2:18 PM

A Palm Pilot Pro. The second Palm pilot released. Synced via serial cable. Got several weeks of use out of a set of AAA batteries.

No color, no phone, just basic PDA functionality.

It was eventually retired and replaced with a paper notebook.

@Judith
I had an Epson LQ-510 that lasted for about 10 years before it died. But ribbons were getting hard to find. Still have the Centronics cable.

Posted by: wiredog | March 12, 2008 3:03 PM

A Convergent Technologies WorkSlate, arguably the first laptop computer.

Posted by: Larry Mac | March 12, 2008 3:09 PM

I have my Father's circa 1987 Sperry with a mighty 20 MB hard drive and color monitor, with the AutoCAD program he used as an architect - and about three years of designs all on 5 1/4 inch floppies. (there is also a plotter and custom sensitive pad for the mouse that complete the set)

I set it up and running over x-mas and tried to get the info off the discs to archive in a more modern format, but though I could telnet into the system via a usb-serial connection, I couldn't figure out how to get the data onto my laptop (despite being able to see it in the telnet window).

If anyone has advice on this, I'd be grateful.

KT

Posted by: KDT | March 12, 2008 3:23 PM

More...

It has a modem, which was working, but the dial up connection that comes with my internet access refused to accept the password, despite working with the same info from the modem on my XP laptop. It would have been so simple just to upload the data and download somewhere else...

K

Posted by: KDT | March 12, 2008 3:29 PM

I have an Amiga 2000. It's in the closet. It still worked when I put it there, 16(?) years ago. I switched to a computer that I could actually go into a store and buy software for.

Posted by: Ghak | March 12, 2008 4:23 PM

@KDT - it's been a while, but I think you might get somewhere using kermit. Alternately, perhaps a null-modem cable between the systems and the use of zmodem? All I can recommend is Googling around a bit to see if you can find the right implementation for your needs. Good luck.

Posted by: Larry Mac | March 12, 2008 4:50 PM

Six feet away from me are my TI-58C programmable calculator and its PC-100C printer. I once wrote a 'Life' game for it, but I'd be hard pressed to read the printout on its thermal paper after all these years. Fortunately I still have the original hand-written coding sheets...

The TI-59 is the one with the motorized magnetic card reader; on this model the 'C' indicates its "continuous" memory which isn't erased when powered off.

Posted by: Charles | March 12, 2008 5:16 PM

IBM Selectric 2 typewriter used in grad school (in 1980 before the days of personal computers and spell checkers) to type papers. It has a correcting tape which was considered the summit of luxury.

Posted by: SRW | March 12, 2008 5:36 PM

A Coleco Adam. It still works (sorta) as a game player. Good for a laugh when people come over.

Posted by: Steve | March 12, 2008 5:39 PM

My girlfriend's great aunt still listens to religious recordings on an old 8-Track player. I'd never seen one actually playing before (just sitting in dusty piles at garage sales). With the instant random-access gratification of CD's it was amusing to see that there wasn't even a rewind button on the player. Once you hit play, you're committed to listen all the way to the end.

Posted by: Luke | March 12, 2008 7:05 PM

I used to collect first generation PDA's, so I have one of every Apple Newton ever made (and still use my eMate and 2100 regularly), but the most obscure pieces? A Sony PIC-1000, running General Magic's Magic Cap OS, as well as a DataRover 840 running Magic Cap 2.0. Both work perfectly.

I also have an old GRiDPad that worked the last time I checked a few years ago, but I seem to have misplaced the power brick (which literally weighs the same as a brick with the same dimensions!)

Posted by: Female Geek | March 12, 2008 7:09 PM

I have a cell phone from 1999. It still powers on but has no service. I should donate it to the seniors center. It's huge; they'll love its big buttons. But will it call 911?

Posted by: A | March 12, 2008 7:19 PM

Original 128k Macintosh, purchased in 1984, later upgraded to a whopping 512 MB of RAM. Still works. I've donated/disposed of all my old computers but this one, my first.

Posted by: Alexandria | March 12, 2008 7:58 PM

A generic 286 PC bought in the mid 80s. I have it ready to boot up but haven't used it in years.

Posted by: jborst | March 12, 2008 8:01 PM

Thanks Larrymac, it was with a null modem cable I managed to telnet in, I could see the files, just no way that I saw to copy them from the Speery to the laptop despite of this. Not able to install any more software on the Speery for the same reason.

As far as 8 tracks go, there are 4 streams (2 channels x 4 streams = 8 tracks - which players can swap between, so despite no reverse, the worst you have to wait to hear the same thing is 1/4 of the full length.

Posted by: KDT | March 12, 2008 10:15 PM

I still have a working Casio Melody-80 calculator/clock/timer/stopwatch c. 1975. It does think March 12, 2008, is a Thursday (maybe because it wasn't supposed to live to 2000, which wasn't a leap year) but if you press the right button, it still plays Fur Elise! They just don't make 'em like that anymore!

Posted by: Anne B | March 12, 2008 10:46 PM

When my daughter is old enough, I'll unpack and hook up one of the Atari 800XL computers I've got in her closet (along with 1050 disk drive with "Happy Mod", cassette drive, joysticks, and a bunch of 5-1/4" floppies and cartridges, including the Logo and Action! computer languages). One of the CPUs even has a mod kit to expand its 64MB RAM to 256K, and (maybe the same) one has a mod to enable the S-Video output.

People were even making SCSI adapters for those things toward the end (nope, don't have one).

Posted by: Charles | March 13, 2008 7:17 AM

Just to throw this into the mix, ATI bundles a bunch of player programs along with the All-in-Wonder video cards. One of them is a video CD player.

Posted by: Jeff G. | March 13, 2008 12:06 PM

C. Itoh 1550 dot-matrix printer. Though it (and its ribbon) are ~ 20 years old, it still works fine - if I leave my inkjet printer for 20 *days* without printing, I will probably need to either run it through a cleaning cycle or replace an ink cartridge.

Good luck finding an XP driver to take advantage of its graphics capabilities, though; fortunately, it's next to my Linux box.

Posted by: Charles | March 13, 2008 12:48 PM

I have an abacus that I use to figure out my taxes. Still has all of the original beads.

Posted by: josef | March 13, 2008 1:26 PM

I have two Osborne 1 CP/M computers - one a tan case and the other a blue/grey case. I also have a TRS-80 Model 100 laptop computer and an Atari 800.

Posted by: AtticGuy | March 13, 2008 4:17 PM

Ooh! Completely forgot about my slide rule collection until I saw josef's post.

I also have a Kenwood oscilloscope that's designed to be hooked up to a stereo system so you can see the sound waves, stereo separation, etc. Aside from a leaking capacitor which gradually causes the display to drift off the screen, it works quite well.

And I'm sure my RCA "Sound Cartridge" (basically a giant audio cassette) would still play, if I could just find a deck which would handle it (guess I could also take the tape out of the magazine and thread it on my reel-to-reel recorder, but that seems like cheating)...

My 1990 Accord still has a working Audiovox car phone (analog cellular) in it (transceiver in the trunk, cabled to a handset under the seat); good luck finding service these days, though.

Posted by: Charles | March 13, 2008 10:12 PM

I have an iRiver product that looks like a really thick DiscMan but it can also play data cds that have mp3 files on them.

Posted by: ugh | March 14, 2008 3:04 AM

I have a Casio PocketViewer complete with a cradle. It only has 6 MB of memory but it has PocketWord, Excel, email capabilities when connected to a pc and all the games that I want. It runs on 1 AAA battery which lasts for about 1 month. It still works but the touchscreen is not that responsive compared to 10 years ago. I also have a Sony Betamax, an Epson dot matrix printer and if you want to see a 5" floppy disk, I still have 1 or 2 somwhere. No pc to read it.

Posted by: Chari | March 15, 2008 11:00 PM

I have an old Texas Instruments scientific calculator. It's an SR-51-II. It works fine, for about 5 minutes, but after that the LED screen dims and eventually goes out, even when it's plugged in.

Posted by: Chris | March 27, 2008 9:48 PM

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