And the Winner Is...

It's almost over -- and the news looks very good for Felipe Calderón, who in all likelihood will soon be addressed as Señor Presidente. Mexico's contested presidential election moved a giant step closer to finality late Monday, when a special election court rejected a litany of complaints by runner-up Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

The tribunal stopped short of certifying Calderón as the winner in the July 2 election. But most analysts say that is likely to occur soon -- perhaps today, perhaps later this week.

With his charges of massive election fraud, López Obrador had sparked a political crisis in the fledgling democracy. Loyal supporters took to the streets, joining the charismatic former mayor is his demand for a full recount. The tribunal however ordered a recount of just 9 percent of the 42 million votes cast and finally yesterday, released the tally.

In the end, it hardly mattered. The seven judges announced that the recount shaved just 4,000 votes off Calderón's original 244,000-vote margin. In their unanimous ruling, they concluded the mistakes made in the original count were minor and a far cry from the widespread fraud López Obrador alleged.

"The tribunal said the smattering of administrative and mathematical errors in thousands of polling places were not acts of 'bad faith' and did not merit throwing out the results of those polling places," reported the Mexico edition of the Miami Herald. 'This tribunal can say to the citizenry that their votes were counted fairly,' said magistrate Fernando Ojesto. 'We have followed the principle of one man, one vote, and of effective suffrage.'

"The jurists also rebuked the López Obrador campaign, saying it had failed to provide concrete evidence of irregularities in the thousands of challenged precincts where it had claimed fraud."

Calderón, who has been working with a transition team since early July, reiterated his belief that the election had been "clean."

"Speaking to lawmakers in Mexico City, Mr. Calderón said he was pleased that the court's ruling had confirmed his victory. 'Just as important as the result of the tribunal's ruling,' he said, 'is that the citizens know the quality of the election we had, that doubts are cleared away and all the malice that has been sown among the citizens is eliminated.'"

Calderón said he supported the right to free expression, but also promised to lead with a "firm hand."

Dismissive and Determined

Not surprisingly, López Obrador remained defiant. Speaking from the downtown square where he and supporters have lived in tents for several weeks, the man known as AMLO said he would "never recognize a government headed by Calderón."

"'Never more will we accept that an illegal and illegitimate government is installed in our country,' he told thousands in the Zócalo, Mexico City's central square. He also questioned the tribunal's ability to resolve the dispute fairly, saying 'the judges made a political decision, not a judicial one.'

"'Today the Electoral Tribunal decided to validate the fraud against the will of the citizens expressed at the ballot boxes,' he said. 'With this decision, constitutional order is broken and the path is opened to a usurper.'"

Many of his supporters sounded equally determined.

"While Monday's ruling seems to all but assure Calderón of the presidency, it will almost certainly fail to satisfy many of the 15 million Mexicans who voted for López Obrador," reports Houston Chronicle bureau chief Dudley Althaus. 'It's not fair that they defraud an entire country,' said Ruben Gonzalez, 17, a public high school senior doing his biology homework under a giant tarp at the sit-in. 'The rich get richer and the poor stay the same or get poorer. It's not fair.'"

One large question remains: What will be López Obrador's next move? He is threatening to continue the mass civil disobedience he unleashed a month ago.

First up are major demonstrations in the Zócalo on Sept. 1, 15 and 16. President Vicente Fox is scheduled to give his final state of the union address on the 1st. Mexico holds its independence day celebration, known as the "grito" on the 15th, and on the 16th, Fox conducts his annual review of the military. And yes, all of these major events are to be held in the very same Zócalo.

"In the clearest indication yet that he is planning to form a parallel government if Calderón is declared the winner, López Obrador told thousands of cheering supporters Sunday that they should decide during the protest-camp convention whether to name a president or leader of a peaceful, civil resistance movement.

"López Obrador himself would accept either post, but said he was leaving it up to his supporters to decide what title to award him.

'What is chosen during the convention will have representation and that representation can be a legitimate president of the republic or, if the convention chooses, a head of a resistance government or the coordinator of peaceful civil resistance,' he said."

Ready for a Resolution

Even with such tough talk, many could sense in recent days that the end of this political saga was near. The first hints came Sunday evening, when the judges scheduled a daylong public session for Monday. After operating behind closed doors and in complete silence, the tribunal said it intended to consider the 375 legal complaints in public.

By late afternoon, things seemed to be moving steadily in Calderón's direction.

"Two of the court's seven judges said recounts and annulments ordered in the legal complaints that they handled had made little or no difference to the original results."

Because the recount did not produce any dramatic shift in the vote totals, most political experts in and out of Mexico felt confident enough to predict the outcome even as the tribunal continued its marathon session.

"The judges likely will rule against López Obrador, 52, and ratify Calderón, 44, as the winner of the election, said Todd Eisenstadt, a professor of government at American University in Washington. The July recount showed Calderón beat López Obrador by 243,934 ballots, or 0.6 percentage points.

"The evidence that López Obrador's team has presented as proof of fraud so far has been very flimsy," Eisenstadt said, in a story that moved midday Monday on the Bloomberg news wire.

Reforma, the Mexican newspaper that has demonstrated pro-Calderón leanings for some time, released poll results over the weekend suggesting the public is tiring of the tumult. Nearly 70 percent of the people surveyed oppose López Obrador's Sept. 16 convention.

Additionally, the survey suggested López Obrador's support has declined slightly since the July 2 voting. If the vote were held today, Calderón would win the five-way race with 43 percent, according to the poll.

The Mexican daily, El Universal, announced in an editorial that it was convening a series of forums to foster discussions aimed at restoring the "social cohesion" that has been seriously damaged by the electoral morass.

And there were plenty of signs the López Obrador camp felt the winds shifting too. Top adviser Manuel Camacho Solis, writing Monday in El Universal, argued that from a legal standpoint, "an annulment is more than justified." But his plea for the judges to make a "last reflection" had a hint of resignation to it.

Businesses that rely heavily on tourists -- cabbies, restaurant owners and hotel managers -- expressed relief that the demonstrators might soon disperse.

For weeks, hotels have been greeting guests with a bright yellow pamphlet warning of the "civil movement as a result of Mexico's recent elections." Printed in both Spanish and English, the "Dear Visitor" card distributed by the tourism department promised that aside from some inconvenient traffic jams, Mexico City was open for business.

Now, they hope, López Obrador will find a graceful exit. Many speculate that may come at the Sept. 16 convocation. Under this scenario, AMLO's supporters would "vote" for him to lead the multi-year resistance movement, the occupation of the Zócalo would no longer be necessary and everyone could go home.

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Hey the article is incomplete!!!!!....everyo...???

Posted by: A. Ramos | August 29, 2006 12:35 PM

This article needs a word count! Word X Word. Sentence X Sentence. A Journalistic Fraud!!!!

Posted by: Zero Hour | August 29, 2006 01:05 PM


Calderon won't be certifyed until after the Sept. 1 "Informe" (State of the Union adress). The judges have until Sept. 6 to proclaim a president-elect. What with the paperwork and what not, you know...

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 01:11 PM

How ridiculous. Get over it, loser. At least Al Gore had the dignity to cede the election after the electoral disputes had been adjudicated.

It also helps me appreciate our electoral college more. Our election problems are generally limited to at most one or two states per election... it seems all of Mexico has been in an uproar because the winner had only 0.6% more of the popular vote than his rival.

Posted by: Jonathan | August 29, 2006 01:12 PM

"López Obrador himself would accept either post, but said he was leaving it up to his supporters to decide what title to award him."

How about "Five Star Loser"

Posted by: | August 29, 2006 01:40 PM

Yes he is a looser but a looser with no other life to live but this Chaotic parade, remember his mental condition, he will not stop until he finds his "muertito" to justify his cause, then Revolution will be his path.

Posted by: A. Ramos | August 29, 2006 01:52 PM

I am a non Mexican living and doing business in Mexico. This guy is making me and a whole lot of other foreigner business peolpe very nervous. There has been talk of if he get's in there will be a big shake up for us. To tell the truth this is really a horrible conuntry to do business in but I don't want to loose all my years of work here. This guy will not give up, he's like a child that really wants a new toy and he'll stamp his feet till he get's it. This child needs to be punished and needs to shut the hell up.

Posted by: Lloyd | August 29, 2006 01:58 PM

Actually that's the real problem, he needs to be punished but there is none to punish him, Calderon will be a weak president with no leadership, the only leader Mexico have now is Obrador and he is crazy, Panistas are confident that Amlo will fade in oblivion but that's a wrong perspective, Calderon is forced to behave as a real statesman and to guarantee justice for all or any failure Obrador will be there to remind us, that can tell you who will have the real power there.

Posted by: Chaz | August 29, 2006 02:23 PM

Sadly that's true, could be a great oportunity to change things in Mexico with Calderon in power pushed by Obrador stuck in his ass, but society alredy is polarized and many are already saturated of Obrador and his followers, that smells trouble.

Posted by: A. Ramos | August 29, 2006 02:26 PM

Get ready for demagogue Hugo Chavez to announce he recognizes AMLO as the legitimate President of Mexico. Hugo is always looking for troube and the current situation in Mexico will provide him with another opportunity.

Posted by: RC | August 29, 2006 02:30 PM

The real question is when the other members of AMLO's party are going to see that the emperor has no clothes. AMLO is free to immolate himself in public opinion, which he has been doing pretty good, but for goodness sake let the rest of the country move on... be an effective opposition leader, not a spoiled brat willing to bring down the progress of the last ten years. If the rest of the PRD does not do something to rein in his rhetoric, they run the risk of being trounced in three years and paved the way for a return of the PRI.

Posted by: Gabriel | August 29, 2006 02:35 PM

Lopez is no longer popular as he was before the camping over Zocalo & Reforma Avenue. He has been set up by his own contradictory words, now he is facing to accept the defeat but in his own speech is the hidden part. It won´t be a surprise to seeing him in Havana for a long vacation, (after september the 6th), where he will be out of the risk of no "fuero".

Posted by: adrian | August 29, 2006 03:07 PM

Obrador represents a new breed of populist leader willing to sieze power from a long line of facist regimes. Whether or not he succeeds this time around is a mute point. Mexico is but a hare's breath away from civil war. Anyone who cannot see the decay of "globalism" in this hemisphere has his head in the sand. Let us hope this type of action spreads to the USA before its too late!

Posted by: the_shaman | August 29, 2006 03:09 PM

"Those who are interested in saving the poor, are actually more interested in ruling the poor". This applies to AMLO. He dredged the swamps of Tabasco and environmentally destroyed the area, only to give the land to his cronies and supporters, who then abandoned the project as it was uneconomical to begin with.

If AMLO was interested in democracy even by an ounce, he would take this opportunity to propose constitutional changes to make Mexico a Parliamentary system, rather than a one-man rulership.

But nooooo, he wants to rule, ostensibly to save the poor - and if that cannot be done, then inflict huge damage and loss on Mexican society in a dramatic act of cutting the nose off his dupes to spite his enemies.

Posted by: Karim | August 29, 2006 03:15 PM

My prediction of the next 6 years in Mexico will bring violence, unstable economy with massive (way more than last few years) immigration to the US.

Felipe Calderon will not end his period eiher by resignation or being removed by the poplar force.

Obviously the US will be affected due to these problems, bringing more insecurity and violence at cities in the border.

Have FUN pro-PAN people! better start looking where would you like to move once things start getting HOT!

Posted by: Pitoniso | August 29, 2006 03:20 PM

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 03:45 PM

rodolfo: Camacho Solis is toasted. He was behind much of AMLO's electoral strategy and post-electoral political and legal strategy, but he is a failure. In case anyone had any doubts, check what the President of the TRIFE, magistrate Leonel Castillo has to say about the cocaine demands of the PRD Coalition to annul the election:

Por otro lado, el magistrado Castillo González planteó que la coalición Por el Bien de Todos pretendió hacer valer acciones contradictorias al impugnar la elección presidencial pues, por un lado, solicitó su anulación y, por el otro, pidió cambiar al ganador en favor de Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

"La coalición actora hace valer dos acciones contradictorias, pues por un lado pide que se cambie el ganador de la elección y, por el otro, solicita que se declare su nulidad", explicó.

Esas acciones, sostiene la sentencia en sus considerandos, "resultan contradictorias, pues declarar un cambio de ganador parte de la premisa de que existió una elección válida".

Esa situación, puntualizó, "se contrapone con la petición de nulidad, pues en este caso se parte necesariamente del supuesto de invalidez de la elección, características que no puede tener a un mismo tiempo una elección".

I guess that's it.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 03:56 PM

The_Shaman, presumably you are sorry the Berlin Wall came down.

Posted by: RC | August 29, 2006 03:57 PM

For me is a surprise to see that Lopez supporters can write in english, that would mean that they should have a better idea of how Lopez childish behaviour is affecting ordinary people in his family life, business life and personal life. Anytime Lopez has not followed the laws, he is always braking them and with the support of the fanatism left wing followers yelling and barking like dogs. But we have a say here in Mexico "dog barking doesn´t bite" so still be barking, no problem, your Lopez idol is suffering the defeat and the strike is from very high. Just remember me when Lopez start departing from Mexico airport to hide himself and you still be here alone.

Posted by: adrian | August 29, 2006 04:11 PM

Pitosino, Where is the "popular" revolt against Calderon? AMLO support is lower than its ever been, and likely will decrese furhter in the coming weeks. And in case you have not noticed, the economy is chugging along, the peso is stable, as is the stock market. I am afraid the ones who are going to have to move out of Mexico are the bitter loosers who cant come to terms with AMLO inept campaign. They will probably move to Cuba or Venezuela, where they belong. And please take the Gran Chachalaca with you...

Posted by: Gabriel | August 29, 2006 04:11 PM

Lopez Obrador is a big cry baby. He says that he wants democracy, but he won't abide by what the European Union witnesses nor the Electorial court states is a clean election. I talked to my wife, who is from Northern Mexico, about the situation. She stated that Lopez Obrador was originally from the PRI (the same party that ruled for 70 years), but Obrador felt that the PRI was not radical enough. The PRI kicked Obrador out of the party, and that is why Obrador is for the PRD.

Obrador is putting a huge show for the poor people of Mexico. Just like the PRI did in the old days. Obrador just wants to line his pockets, and the poor people (who are not the best educated) feel safer to be governed by what they understand (basically having their strings pulled).

Obrador's motto should be: If I can't win via the election, then I will use the other avenue that the PRI did all those years ago. Start a Civil War!!

The educated people have left his "Protests" realizing that he is really as radical as everyone stated. Obrador is as corrrupted as any of those PRI presidents during the 70-year rule!!

Posted by: Kevin K | August 29, 2006 04:15 PM

Thanks for your words. I've seen growing disappointment with Mexicans in the U.S. who once threw their support behind AMLO as a potential changing force in Mexico. His post-election behavior has definitely disgusted me, what kind of a person would use Mexico's huddled masses for his own political gain? There were too many international observers in this election for all this fraud he claims to have gone through undetected, I can't wait until he flees the country and lives out his own pathetic exile in fruitless regret.

Posted by: sara ines | August 29, 2006 04:16 PM


When you say Mexico is a terible country to do bussiness in, could you explain your frustration.

We Mexicans already know first hand the endless requiremnts to open a simple mom and pop shop. Are foreign business people also up against a wall of requirements and nonsensical paperwork?

Is your frustration because you are a newcomer and didn't know the inefficient mores and ways of an indolent bureaucracy?

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 04:22 PM

Yes, there will be a lot of political unrest and maybe violence, but I don't see why Obradoristas rejoice about that, the impact of this political unrest will first be suffered by the people that suppose to defend, poor people then low income population, students, workers. Rich people don't even have their money in Mexico. AMLO protagonism will only affect Mexico development and at the end will bring a lot of hate towards left, I see PAN winning by majority in 2012

Posted by: A. Ramos | August 29, 2006 04:30 PM

rodolfo: Lloyd only needs some time to adapt to Mexican realities, I will give it 10 years or so to get used to our dear Country start looking at it from a more positive side. It happens all the time.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 04:34 PM


.....and to ALL of us.

But I like the weather, the food , the people and PREDIAL, probably most of all. Have you seen the rent rates in the USA for a studio apartment.


Other than that I'd be binational. Don't like northern winters, which are COLD.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 04:52 PM

sara ines,

This Lopez Obrador is one big thug. I knew it long ago and he showed his cards at the worst possible moment, at the time of his greatest political defeat.

Character is best measured in moments of crisis. It turns up the guy is a weakly chump. No Churchill this small loser, something more like a pathetic tin pot Saddam with an ax to grind. We're supposed to like it. Instead, we are not amused.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 05:00 PM


I see a big broom sweeping the wide and mighty Zocalo. It will be a surprise raid a few days before the Sept. 15 festivities.
It will be bloodless and expeditious.

If the Mexico City police chief or mayor try to stop the proceedings Fox will invoke emergency powers and we all will be getting along with our lives splendidly.

If Lopez and company don't get the message Campo Militar Numero Uno will be their next residence of choice.

Fox is leaving in December and hates Lopez and he is Mexico's president and chief of the armed forces. Lopez is: yeah, a has been with zero power.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 05:10 PM

"It also helps me appreciate our electoral college more. Our election problems are generally limited to at most one or two states per election... it seems all of Mexico has been in an uproar because the winner had only 0.6% more of the popular vote than his rival."

Posted by: Jonathan | August 29, 2006 01:12 PM

Good point, Jonathan. Imagine the US with no electoral college in 2000. It would have been Mexico on a bigger scale, with George Bush the agrieved loser. Imagine the pockets of fraud in places like Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore and other democratic strongholds....With the electoral college, it is much harder to steal an election.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:10 PM

Someone mentioned Hugito Chavez recognizing AMLO as president. That is interesting... Who else might be inclined to recognize him? I would bet on the following, all fine democratic statesmen and true lovers of the people, peace, and freedom:

H Chavez
F Castro
Kim Jong Il
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran)
Aleksandr Lukashenko (Belarus)
Evo Morales

The following ex leaders would probably support him, but are either dead, on the run, out of power or in US custody
Saddam Hussein
Pol Pot
Kim Il Sung
the Taliban
A. Hitler
J. Stalin
Comrade Gonzalo (Peru)
Daniel Ortega

The following groups in Mexico will no doubt recognize AMLO as the sum of all their aspirations:

macheteros de San Salvador Atenco

With friends like these....

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:17 PM

Hey guys check this out, some fellows hacked:


Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 05:17 PM

damnit, that website is now down. What did they do to it, emptyboxes? Poor AMLO, he even has enemies in cyberspace.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:22 PM

Talking about the IFE's credibility and respect, check this out:

Desecha TEPJF juicio contra consejeros del IFE

La sentencia, elaborada por la magistrada Alfonsina Berta Navarro Hidalgo y respaldada por unanimidad, subraya que los tres ciudadanos inconformes sólo presentaron argumentos generales y dogmáticos

Posted by: bunburina | August 29, 2006 05:31 PM


If the Electoral College were able to assign votes on a percentage basis I think it would be much better than the winner take all that causes a distortion of the popular will. In what are now routinely close election results, the proportional approach makes much more sense. Mexico's problem with an electoral college is the control that the governors still wield.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 05:34 PM

This one is actually pretty funny:

Anular elección, única salida a crisis política: Camacho Solís

Advierte el asesor del candidato presidencial de la coalición Por el Bien de Todos, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, que cualquier otra opción empeorará la atmósfera de tensión política del país

It might actually work you know? Maybe if AMLO loses by a 10% margin, maybe then, he will finally get the idea that he just didn't have enough votes to win the eletion. But this is just hopeful thinking, an utopia, far away from reality... I don't think he will ever accept, at least in public, that people actually prefered other candidates than him.

Posted by: bunburina | August 29, 2006 05:38 PM

Within each state, maybe, cabrona, but on a national level? The chaos that would have caused in 2000 would have been identical as that in a national direct vote.
One state, Maine, does assign its electoral votes this way, and occasionally splits them 3-1.

And, no I do not think an American style electoral college would work for Mexico. And, if the US were a new country, I am not sure I would reccomend it for them. But, they have it, and generally it works, and it DID help to avoid a major problem in 2000.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:45 PM

cabrona....sheesh, I really AM tired. Sorry, K Vronna...

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:45 PM

From Camacho Solis:

"De no anularse el resultado electoral, dijo, "encabezaremos un movimiento que no reconoce a las instituciones del país y que inevitablemente significará una escalada de la confrontación política".

In other words, the election should be anulled because if it is not, the AMLO is going to hold his breath, go sit in a corner and bang his fists against the wall. If the PAN loses in 2012 or 2018, are they allowed to follow this strategy too, or are only leftists allowed to be sore losers?

I think Camacho Solis is S.O.L., his future is totally linked to AMLO's, and he sees his political life going down the toilet.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:51 PM

This one is actually pretty funny:

Anular elección, única salida a crisis política: Camacho Solís

Advierte el asesor del candidato presidencial de la coalición Por el Bien de Todos, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, que cualquier otra opción empeorará la atmósfera de tensión política del país

It might actually work you know? Maybe if AMLO loses by a 10% margin, maybe then, he will finally get the idea that he just didn't have enough votes to win the eletion. But this is just hopeful thinking, an utopia, far away from reality... I don't think he will ever accept, at least in public, that people actually prefered other candidates than him.

Posted by: bunburina | August 29, 2006 05:52 PM

Below is my new email address. Bonus points to anyone who knows who Ragnab is.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 05:56 PM

Man, oh man, Jamoncito de la Fuente, interim president; where the heck is my Pepto Bismol, I'm gonna puke! And the other candidates are even worse! Get me a gallon of that pink stuff!

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 05:58 PM

Echeverria is still alive. He could be the interino. I am sure his political ideas would mesh nicely with AMLO's

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 06:00 PM

I don't think being alive is a prerequisite for the post of interim prez; how about López Portillo and Díaz Ordaz in a deathly tag-team?

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 06:08 PM

Do you have to be Mexican??? If not, I propose Marion Barry. Guarenteed to make us laugh. And Mexico City does not have blizzards for him to screw up the snow removal...

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 06:14 PM

Marion REALLY likes that kind of snow. Have you seen the FBI video that got him sent to the Federal Bad Boys camp in Petersburg???

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 06:20 PM

Oh yeah? There's a lot of snow in DF, especially with some of Emptyboxes' favorite journalists from La Jornada.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 06:21 PM

Well, I think Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador would be a much better President for Mexico than Felipe Calderon.

This election and the campaigns were incredibly manipulated for the masses. It is dissapointing that Felipe Calderon needed to compete in such terms and conditions in order to have a chance against a much better opponent as AMLO.

I also agree with Lopez Obrador when he says that President Fox is a traitor to democracy.

Posted by: HDR | August 29, 2006 06:24 PM

K. Vronna,

I just made the additions and in an electoral college system Lopez wins in a landslide.

I like those wily governors.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 06:29 PM


Mexico's Recount

For eight weeks, Andrés Manuel López Obrador has made his claim of electoral fraud the basis for what threatens to become a permanent protest of Mexico's presidential election. Yesterday, Mexico's electoral tribunal kicked away the foundations of his claim. In a recount of 9 percent of polling places, the judges found no evidence of widespread fraud and too few errors to change the results.

The electoral tribunal has not yet declared that Felipe Calderón, of the ruling National Action Party, is Mexico's next president. It has until Sept. 6 to rule on whether President Vicente Fox and business groups interfered illegally in the election. No one should ask Mr. López Obrador to concede before this ruling. But it is time for him to end the protests and pledge to respect the tribunal's final decision.

Mr. López Obrador, who trails Mr. Calderón by less than 0.6 percent of the vote, claims he really won and vows to make the country ungovernable until his claim is recognized. His supporters have set up squatter camps that have paralyzed parts of Mexico City. Mr. López Obrador argues that only a full recount would have settled the question. In a country where electoral fraud used to be routine, a full recount would indeed have been best.

But this vote was apparently well run, and there is a clear and thorough process in place to deal with challenges. The electoral tribunal is respected and independent. Mr. López Obrador's continued insistence that he was robbed now sounds like whining. If he does not desist, his party, now the country's second-largest, should decide that it is bigger than him and that its role is as opposition within, not outside, democratic processes.

Mr. Calderón, however, also needs to reach out. He erred in opposing a recount. And while his advisers insist that they do not need the Party of the Democratic Revolution to govern effectively, they are wrong. Mr. Calderón has less than 36 percent of the vote, and his own party fell short of a majority in both the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. The country is split by class and geography, with the wealthy northern states supporting Mr. Calderón and the poorer south supporting Mr. López Obrador.

Even if he could govern alone, Mr. Calderón would be making policy in an echo chamber of Mexico's elite. Mr. López Obrador has flaws that have apparently kept him from the presidency. But that does not mean that the millions of Mexicans who feel represented by him should have no voice.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 06:57 PM

HDR, I agree with you. Those stupid masses of Mexicans let themselves be manipulated by traitors like Fox. Why do we even let them vote in the first place if they are going to be manipulated like that. It works oh so much better in Cuba...We much teach Mexicans to elect better men!!! (Woodrow Wilson, 1915)

In some countries, when the people lose confidence in the government, they dissolve the government and elect another. Here, AMLO has lost confidence in the people, and his supporters want to dissolve the people and elect another.

Rodolfo, how did you do your Mexican Electoral College system? Did you give each state four votes for its senators, or only two?

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 07:30 PM

Jerry B,

In the U.S. the states that have the largest population have the most electoral votes. If California has 25 electoral votes and the democrats win by a majority of one in the total state vote count the 25 electoral votes go to the democrat candidate. The republican gets no electoral votes.

Lopez got the states with the most population: aprox. 52.5 million to Calderon's 43.522 million.

"The party that wins a state elects its entire slate of Electors"

The states with a largest voter population have the most electoral votes.D.F.,Edomex, Veracruz, Oaxaca, Chiapas, Guerrero and Michoacan.

Calderon only got Jalisco with more than 5 million voters.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 08:01 PM

Rodolfo, not necessarily. The electoral college magnafies the power of smaller states. Example, California, with 30 million people gets 54 votes (2 for its senators plus one for each of its 52 representatives.) That works out to about one vote per 550,000 people. Wyoming, polulation 400,000, gets 3 votes, 2 for its senators and one for its representative. That works out to one vote per 135,000 people.

With not two but three senators per state (forget about the pluris) an American electoral system would strengthen the north at the expense of AMLO land.

Baja California, population 3.5 million, would get 9 votes (three plus six). That would compare favorably with the DF or Oaxaca...

Posted by: Jerry B | August 29, 2006 08:14 PM

K.Vronna, it's nice to hear from you.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 08:23 PM

Jerry B,

In my book its a win/win situation for Calderon.

If it is actually as you say, more power to your calculations. I hate Lopez.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 08:23 PM

Our Direct electoral system is responsible for the misery and abandoment of many regions of the country which President and congressmen do not consider strategical.

I believe the electoral college works as a third virtual branch of congress in the USA, except it only speaks during the elections, but its voice is strong and heard by politicians because it gives more power to states that would otherwise be forgotten.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 08:28 PM

I am logged at arielorellana's site. Ceci's orphans is the name of the forum.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 29, 2006 08:30 PM

And the winner is....Felipe Calderon!!!Soon, Calderon would be announced as our next President of Mexico.
I insist that AMLO would also soon be forgotten and with that, the PRD may lose their rights to be a political party all thanks to his madness.
AMLO is going down and his followers are going down with him too.
Felipe Calderon wont be like FOX,
So far, Calderon has been very patient, but as soon as Calderon becames officially the President of Mexico,
He would be firm on his campaing promises,
and he would enforce the order that Mexico needs,
Peace would be again surrounding the main capital's street.
The good thing about all this, is that,
Mexicans have learned more about politics in the last months then ever,
they have learned that politics is also part of their daily lives,
Mexicans have also learned to appreciate the freedom that Mexico as a democratic country offers,
and the main learning lesson in all this,
is that, there is a big risk of losing that freedom,
with a bad vote decision!!!

Posted by: Kukiss | August 29, 2006 09:36 PM

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 09:46 PM

K. Vronna, bunburina, Jerry B, and the rest,

Some of the stuff I do:

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 09:47 PM

I´m so happy it is almost finally over and Calderon won despite evreyone that doesn´t like it. It´s time for Mr. Peje to go and let us live in peace. I was wondering what will happen if he won and in six years he had to leave, he would stay in Reforma so he would get reelected? think about that. He was never elected and he is proclaiming he will be president even we like it or not. Is this really the kind of president you want to have?
I was reading in this blog that the panistas should be happy because of the violence AMLO is promising and that USA will be flooded with inmigrants. What will happen if AMLO is president? for sure I won´t ,as many more, stay to watch most of us will go.

Posted by: Happy | August 29, 2006 09:50 PM

Wow, It's beautiful,
Thanks for sharing it!!!
I noticed that you were not an ordinary person, The way you write says it all,

Posted by: Kukiss | August 29, 2006 10:16 PM

Wow, It's beautiful,
Thanks for sharing it!!!
I noticed that you were not an ordinary person, The way you write says it all,

Posted by: Kukiss | August 29, 2006 10:16 PM

Wow, It's beautiful,
Thanks for sharing it!!!
I noticed that you were not an ordinary person, The way you write says it all,

Posted by: Kukiss | August 29, 2006 10:18 PM

I am sorry for triplicating my comment,
Something went wrong in my computer!!!
But then, I liked the idea of Congratulating Rodolfo over and over again!!!

Posted by: Kukiss | August 29, 2006 10:20 PM

Martí Batres said they have enough ideas to last them (the movement) for the next 100 days. If I were them I would make sure that these "new" ideas were nothing like the other ideas they have had or the citizenry might just run them out of town on a rail.


Those paintings are nice, I think I know that place in the painting of the volcanos in Morelos, maybe on the road between Izucar de Matamoros and Cuautla?

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 10:22 PM

Oops! Wrong again, I guess I'll have to get more sleep to be alert. Wrong volcano alignment; this is Tlaxcala, maybe not far from Calpulalpan?

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 29, 2006 10:28 PM

Kukiss - something went wrong?? you betch ya! YOUR BRAIN WENT WRONG!!!
Stop kissing rodolfo's butt and please kiss my BIG AZTECA ASS!!!

kvroncita - Please!!! No mameyes en tiempos de aguacates ok?

Su Madre

Posted by: La Chingada | August 29, 2006 11:43 PM

I just made a new discovery....even the strippers in Tijuana support Calderon.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 30, 2006 12:44 AM

Rodolfo, that is really really nice! Thanx for sharing, you've got a real gift! :)

"I just made a new discovery....even the strippers in Tijuana support Calderon."

Ha! Jerry B, I can only imagine how you found that out...!

Advierte PRD ingobernabilidad en Cámara de Diputados

Conminan a que PRI y PAN no acuerden la instalación de una Mesa Directiva "a modo" para garantizar una tersa respuesta al último Informe de Gobierno del presidente Fox, el viernes 1 de septiembre

I'm going to buy a great amount of beer, chips and popcorn to watch the super boring congress channel on Friday. I'm already planning to fake a headache to miss work. It is going to be quite a show, very denigrating and embarassing of course, but still a show.

Posted by: bunburina | August 30, 2006 02:13 AM

Hey guys, I decided I'm gonna run for the spot of the legitimate president of Mexico too. I figure it's less work than following Obrador's antics and I'll probably be able to avoid missing work like someone I know did after staying up until five in the morning last night... So vote for me, not that your votes will count in the world of "legitimate" elections to counter official elections.
It will be a tough fight between a lot of characters though, I belief besides AMLO, Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse are running. However, due to some racial remarks they've made like 30 years ago, they're behind a japanese anmation character named Saya and another named Akira. So it's really between AMLO and me right now, unless you all decide to run. I will probably be happy if AMLO wins the alternative presidential vote, now that I think about it. What could be more entertaining than watching him "rule" mexico from an invisble throne and under an invisible crown of thorns. Hey don't blame me, I voted for Homer!

Posted by: eljefejesus | August 30, 2006 02:24 AM

by the way rodolfo,
i saw the link and the paintings are cool. the last three are my personal favorites. Cool stuff man.

Posted by: eljefejesus | August 30, 2006 02:26 AM

Kukiss,Kukiss,Kukiss, bunburina, eljefejesus:

Thank you for the compliments, I am your humble servant, nothing more.

I am an early riser and I didn't have the energy to stay with you last night and thank you.

The landscape painting is a copy from the Velasco original that an English banking company commissioned me for their London offices. It is 4x5 feet so it is rather large. The wood carving was my third and last carving. I have to do more carving, I like how that work looks. I'll post more paintings and let you know.


Your Aug 29 5:38 AM post was very interesting and i have some other ideas taht I;ll post later.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 30, 2006 05:56 AM

bunburina, jerry, rodolfo

Congress had its first session yesterday and it was quite incredible how these PRD, PT and Convergencia were so imbeciles as to not to participate and try to block everything.

Basically, they wanted to have the Mesa Directiva or the Junta de Coordinacion, normally the PRD would have had the right to take the Mesa Directiva, for it is normally assigned to the party representing the second force in Congress.

Instead they got nothing, and PRI was very happy to take whatever the PAN had to offer to them in exchange. PVEM made a little show in the end, trying to get something out in exchange for their precious 19 votes.

But the sad thing for PRD and their coalition is that they were all excluded from any decisions in both houses.

Felipe Calderon and PAN and the Fox Administration and some PRI and PAN Governors have together many more things to offer than the PRD and its sorry coalition. Already yesterday there was a show of force by Felipe Calderon and PAN in the house of representatives. PAN,PRI,PVEM,PANAL and Alternativa all voted together to elect the governing bodies of Congress leaving the PRD Coalition in the cold. Useless were their cryies and yelling.

If this are the threats they have talked so much about PAN will be having lots of fun in the next months.

PRD lost the Presidential Election, they lost the Impugnation, Their street protest didn't get them anywhere and now they are losing in congress. What a sorry bunch of losers.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 30, 2006 06:23 AM


Enter the panista century rocking!

Posted by: rodolfo | August 30, 2006 07:36 AM

Aren't all of you, AMLO-haters, PRI-haters, disgusted of these gangster-like legislative associations? While you were weary of prior PRI-membership, you relish at the surrendering of PAN principles for political expediency. Isn't it a blatant double standard? What do you think the respectable PANistas of yesteryear would think about this swamp? And for the "modern leftist ladies," aren't you happy of this steamroller, which your hated AMLO appropriately named PRIAN? It's sad, pathetic... PRD and AMLO didn't lose, Mexican democracy is losing, but your obtuse minds, full of visceral hate, refuse to see it. You are more than willing, even happy, to accept a Pyrrhic victory if this "teaches a lesson" to AMLO. Keep at it, guys and gals; you are down the road to the disappearance of Mexico as a sovereign nation, with Electoral College system and all. I would like that for once somebody who's having these pipe dreams research the origin of the Electoral College system in the US. You may be surprised by what you find. Have a sweet life while you can...

PS If the level of political wisdom that the Mexicans have acquired is of the type displayed by Kukiss, I would pray to god for the saving of Mexico, if I were a believer...

Posted by: pasilla | August 30, 2006 09:13 AM

Bunburina, my discovery of yesterday night entailed hours, many hours, of rigid scientific research. I should get a grant from UNAM to continue said research. I would even lie and say they support AMLO if UNAM will give me such a grant.

Pasilla, this may surprise you, but, at least in my cas, I AM disgusted by what the PAN is doing in congress, and by the craven way they recognized Sabines in Chiapas, despite a level of fraud that is obscene. Yet, they would not have to do this if the PRD would at least pretend to act responsibly. Due to PRD intransigence, either the PAN allies with the PRD in congress, or we will have no congress. Which would be better for the country? Not that you perredistas care, but the rest of us do.
And, no one wants the electoral college system in Mexico, but, as mentioned, it works fine in the US. If the US is such a bad place, why are you there?

Emptyboxes, of course the PRD is going to cry about what happened in congress. They boycotted the naming of IFE councellors, and then complained about that too.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 30, 2006 09:47 AM

I wonder if the PAN has thought about having a hundred thousand or so gate crashers at AMLO's fantasy convention on Sept 16. They could vote against everything proposed and generally cause chaos. It would be hilarous, and would start a wonderful riot.

Posted by: Jerry B | August 30, 2006 09:51 AM


You sound full of guile and embittered. Your candidate lost and this childish grasping at straws by Lopez and a lot of seemingly intelligent people following his lead is a sorry spectacle.

Mexican democracy HAS to grow up. We cannot be led by an impostor who is really as hardline authoritarian as we've known in recent memory.

You show your character in defeat. Have some grace.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 30, 2006 04:50 PM


Yeah, its disturbing to watch the PAN deal with the PRI. Very much so. I'm also disappointed by Zermeño, he did a great job as a mayor in Torreon but I have mixed a feelings about his current work and the work he did on the Televisa law.

Back to the dealings: there are two qualifiers we should explore on this

- Would dealing with a PRI-Reloaded party like the PRD be any better? Its the same guys after all. Few of the PRD members are true believers, you know this. Calling the steam roller PRIAN might be "appropiate" but so is PRIRD. Its not safe to throw stones in a glass house.

- Does the PRI have any kind of power anymore? I think the only power left for them is numbers. They're dead.

You know who I'm really, really, really worried about? Elba Esther and Marthita.

As an aside: do you think that Slim is sending a message by having his union pull their support for AMLO?

Finally, dude, you have maya and a few thugs who launched a personal attack on me to try to silence me (I'll show you the emails if you wish) on your side, do you really want to knock Kukiss, or anyone else for that matter?

P.S. You're also invited to join us at the forums in my site, if you so desire.

Posted by: Ariel R. Orellana | August 30, 2006 05:05 PM

I continue to believe that the biggest issues for mexico are it's financial insttitutions and reforms needed to increase economic growth. There was a move to make the tax collection service and central bank more independent along the lines of the IFE. That was blocked by the PRD as have many other reforms, along with the occasional help of the PRI. I hope these elections teach them a lesson and show politicians that mexicans want more jobs (i.e. economic growth) and they want it now. For those less weight minds, they wll settle for the limited (and short-sighted) benefits from increased government employment (and spending).
I hope the anti-clerical and anti-reform factions in the PRD and PRI get bulldozed by the vote that showed a demand for change in favor of more practical political solutions and reforms that will actually allow people to feed themselves without government hand outs.

Posted by: eljefejesus | August 29, 2006 06:09 PM

Independent government institutions and independent decision-making by professional experts and qualified upstanding citizens.

Mexico will be a greater country if every government office learned from IFE, a true government by the people for the people.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 30, 2006 05:31 PM

AMLO's plan for September 1st was to get his followers established outside of Congress, block access to all but Coalition lawmakers (lawbreakers?) and introduce AMLO as the Legitimate Prez of Mexico to an astonished nation. Too bad for him that the Bejarano Bunch didn't get a beachhead; the PFP didn't play along.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 30, 2006 07:50 PM

K. Vronna,

I saw Batres when he said he had ideas. I thought he was about to say for the next six years or 100 years, or something grand.

PRDistas have a big intelect deficit. Vacuous spoutings like that is why they will never get it. Churchill was speaking to the common man but he had fire in his words. Lopista rethoric sucks.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 30, 2006 08:40 PM

I heard Batre too. He is really dumb. I still remember him going on TV before July 2 and speaking as though AMLO was already President.
They all had the same imbecile attitude. They thought it was written in history, or destiny and they were all shocked and broght down to earth when reality stroke.

Truth is they underestimated Felipe Calderon, they focused on stupid things like he was so short of he spoke softly. They failed to see that he was really popular and capitalizing on the errors of their candidate.

AMLO made many mistakes, this is the history of his mistakes, many people pointed them out to him, but he failed to listen. He thought he was smarter than everyone.

Posted by: emptyboxes | August 30, 2006 10:21 PM

Pride goeth before a fall.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 30, 2006 10:27 PM

We shall see who is right, in 6 years. Oh by the way, the price of the bus went up to 6pesos in torreon, and 8pesos for a kilo of tortillas. Yes sir, the Mexican Miracle continues.

Posted by: maya0 | August 30, 2006 10:53 PM

Adios hijos mios!!!

Por lo contrario a lo que dice maya0, yo no creo que nos veremos hasta el final del siguiente sexenio, con toda seguridad les anticipo que nos veremos mucho antes de lo que se imaginan.

esos que siguen viviendo en foxilandia podran ver como antes del 2010 regresare triunfalmente para llevarmelos a todos los mexicanos (sin distincion de partido).

mientras tanto, mijo emptyboxes espero que ya salgas del closet y le declares todo tu amor a rodolfito quien no canta mal las rancheras se me hace.

kvroncita - de plano que le sigues poniendo mucha crema a tus tacos mija, ya bajale! eres de las que todo lo sabes, y si no, lo inventas.

kukiss - sin palabras, no espero mucho de ti mijita.

jerry b. - nos vemos en Iran, Corea o en donde Rambo boy? siempre me da seguridad el saber que contamos en este mundo con los 'charifas' que imponen su ley por todos lados.

Con todo mi amor,


P.S. No se me vayan a hacer PE...DAZOS cuando nos veamos frente a frente y le quieran sacar al parche. La historia se repetira una y otra vez.

Posted by: La Chingada | August 30, 2006 11:37 PM

What can I say? Gee, the PAN decided to negotiate with the PRI. Who else would they negotiate with...El Zocaloco? The PRI sucks, but which is worse the PRD PRIistas or the rest of the pandilla?

You guys are more knowledgeable than I; who has the most ex-PRIistas, Pan or PRD?

Posted by: Furnifold | August 30, 2006 11:47 PM

1. I agree with Rodolfo on the need to stengthen institutions along the liens of the IFE: more independence and also with established checks and balances.
2. I had almost the same thought Jerry B had: "I wonder if the PAN has thought about having a hundred thousand or so gate crashers at AMLO's fantasy convention on Sept 16. They could vote against everything proposed and generally cause chaos. Posted by: Jerry B | August 30, 2006 09:51 AM " My personal take on it would be that everyone just voice votes for someone besides Obrador, like Madrazo. Not Calderon in that case, because then they could spin it another way. Anyway, that would be hilarious.
3. maya0, learn some mexican history, if some prices in mexico have gone up, what's your point? At least now the inflation rate in mexico has dropped to the lowest and more stable in our generation. that is because fox is not spending like amlo and other political dinosaurs would. The mexican government is being realistic and responsible. Oh, and in case you don't know what inflation is, it is the phenomenon of a general increase in prices. Next post I will teach Maya0 what deflation means.
4. The pan has the most representatives, the prd the second most, and the pri the third most. These three major parties are all large enough where any of the two could join together to pass legislation. The ideal would be a party as clean as the PAN and as politically tough as the PRI joining together to pass major "growth" and reform legislation(hopefully not as politically tough as the PAN and as clean as the PRI). Certainly anyone but the irresponsible and childish PRD grouping could make realimprovement in the lives of mexicans and leave a legacy previously made impossible by the combined bitterness of the old PRI and the always childish PRD.

Posted by: eljefejesus | August 31, 2006 01:03 AM

For Pete's sake Maya, inflation happens. If a country grows there is no way to have 0% inflation. Don't be simplistic, you have many, many more profound things to critizice, I'll give you one: the failure of the public education system.

BTW, we'd also like you to join us at the forums at my site. Do drop by.

Posted by: Ariel R. Orellana | August 31, 2006 01:08 AM

La chin... Thanks for leaving us...
You missed this good article that somebody sent me by email,

Felicidades a todos los amigos cibernéticos, lo logramos. No se realmente
>cuanto influimos en la gente para que votara a favor de Felipe, pero les
>aseguro que nuestra labor fue casi igual que lo logrado por la televisión.
>Nuestros mensajes fueron permeando entre la gente que tiene una
>computadora, pero estos a su vez influyeron en sus hermanos, padres y
> Nosotros descubrimos los nexos de Andrés Manuel y Hugo
>Chávez-Fidel-Embajada Cubana y LOS DENUNCIAMOS además de que todos nosotros
>leíamos noticias de todo el mundo y tomábamos la opinión de los periódicos
>y la trasmitÍamos.

Posted by: Kukiss | August 31, 2006 01:27 AM

Oh my, I'm depressed! La Chingada didn't dedicate a single insult to me. I thought that, after all the criticism I made about Saint AMLO, I would deserve some bad blood. But no... maybe I'm getting so used to being insulted by AMLO supporters that I even miss it when an insult doesn't come along.

Posted by: bunburina | August 31, 2006 01:58 AM


Don't alert Mrs. emptyboxes' Mum, she hasn't realised we're in the 21 century. Do not rub in her face that there are people out there busting their brains at school and college for what seems eternity to get a degree. Do not impose your savvy education on this lady of the people.

She embraces darkness and voodoo, maiming violence and thuggery, her way or the highway fascism. Intimidation, not contagious passion and clever wordsmithing.

She is a fool and a sanctimoniuos bore, bitter lady of darkness. We should all be followers of that, it's so 1900's.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 31, 2006 06:15 AM

I like this ranter:

The new concept of democracy - According to AMLO - Mexican Election Post #22

The head of the election tribunal came close to the final determination on the Mexican election by suggesting that save about 4000 votes Mr. Lopez Obrador failed to win (he lost). But wait.....

#1 - AMLO has suggested that he will give his own Grito on independence day (September 16) and declare himself president. but #2 - Polling is turning against this self styled messiah. In a poll released in the Wall Street Journal the following responses were reported -

a) Do you agree with AMLOs resistence to the election results - NO 68%, b) Based on what you know who do you think won the July 2 election - Calderon 62%. c) If the election were held today who would you vote for Calderon 54% (on July 2 37%), AMLO 30% (on July 2 36%), Madrazo 12% (on July 2 23%) - thus support for Calderon has come at the expense of both Madrazo and AMLO.

Finally, (based on a 10 point scale with 10 being high) - How would you rate the following - The voters in the July 2 election (8.2), The electoral tribunal after the election (7.1), Calderon's conduct after the election (7.1), AMLOs conduct after the election (4.1).

posted by Dr. Tax in Sacramento

Posted by: rodolfo | August 31, 2006 07:36 AM

Top 10 reasons why Calderon is the best choice for Mexico:

1. First and foremost, Calderon will make sure that Mexico continues the trend set out by Echeverria, Lopez Portillo, De la Madrid, Salinas and Fox. What trend is that? The trend of a long list of accomplishments occurred in the last 30 yrs. of PRI-PAN government.

2. Calderon will make sure that 50% of Mexicans remain with an income of less than $1 dollar a day.

3. Calderon will make sure that the exodus of millions of unemployed Mexicans continue going to the USA.

4. Calderon will make sure that the lack of gains in science and technology occurred during the Echeverria, Lopez Portillo, De La Madrid, Salinas and Fox continue.

5. Calderon will make sure that Mexico remains a 3rd world country.

6. Calderon will make sure that none of the participants of the bank frauds committed every sexenio are brought to justice.

7. Calderon will make sure that the Durazos, Hank Gonzalez and Salinas are able to steal with absolute impunity.

8. Calderon will make sure that the income and social disparities between the Mexican north and south increase.

9. Calderon will make sure that millions of young Mexicans have limited access to quality education.

10. There has been absolutely no improvement in the living conditions in Mexico for the past 30 yrs. But thank God we have Calderon to maintain the status quo.

God bless you.

Posted by: Top 10!!! | August 31, 2006 09:10 AM


Here's a lesson in economics 101:

The tortilla kilo used to cost 7 pesos. Next time you buy tortillas ask for 7 pesos of tortillas which will be less than a kilo, but almost a kilo. Then break your head until you find a way to make up for the extra peso to complete a full kilo. If you can succeed in figuring out a way to come up with an extra peso for this and an extra peso for that and actually accomplish this small peso deficit by working your ass twice as hard, welcome to the rat race.

We all are struggling to keep up with expenses and through sheer labor and positive attitude you will find you become a better person and not just another complainer waiting for padrecito Lopez to solve yor problems.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 31, 2006 04:46 PM

Let's hear it for the blog's most consistent and congruent poster; Top 10!!!

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 31, 2006 06:59 PM

The plight of the objective reporter that tries to present a true picture of the postelectoral events is well expressed by Denise Maerker in this piece in today's Excelsior.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 31, 2006 07:29 PM


I read it. I sent her an email telling her I admire her pantalones to call it as she sees it.

Top 10,

I read that list a few days ago. Did you just cut and paste or did one of the perdedista psychotics do the errand.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 31, 2006 07:43 PM

Kukiss, eljefejesus,

Read the Aug. 29, 9:30 AM post at "the Cardinal and the Crazies" post.

Posted by: rodolfo | August 31, 2006 09:54 PM

Come see us at:

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 31, 2006 10:11 PM

Come see us at:

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 31, 2006 10:13 PM

The big showdown now looms before us. Will the PRD people elected to Congress go before the Mexican public, via television, and act like raving lunatics, preventing the president from carrying out his obligation to inform the nation?

If they try to physically attack the president, so that his bodyguards are forced to defend him, will the PRD then cry out "repression?"

A CIDAC poll I saw today shows that if the election were held now Calderon would swamp AMLO. (43 percent Calderon, 24 percent AMLO, 10 percent Madrazo).

Little Lopez has lost ground politically. His only chance is to lead a great "revolution" and have thousands of his blind followers spill their blood for him.

In the movies, there is often a scene where the madman reveals himself by speaking gibberish and looking wild in the eyes. People around him then back off, realizing he is mad. In real life, however, insane people often attract millions of followers who respond to the rantings and ravings in an almost spiritual way. This is what we are seeing with the PRD, a party that has had tremendous growth and success and is now on the brink of losing much of it because they don't know how to distance themselves from this man, little Lopez, who is off in a world of his own, looking more and more like Tony Perkins in the final scene from "Psycho."

Posted by: Goyo | September 1, 2006 01:59 PM


Calderon won't be certified until after the Sept. 1 "Informe" (State of the Union adress). The judges have until Sept. 6 to proclaim a president-elect. What with the paperwork and what not, you know...

Posted by: rodolfo | August 29, 2006 01:11 PM

Read this Sept 1 article in Cronica:

The TEPJF won't be going to the Informe, too much work, so little time.

Posted by: | September 1, 2006 02:08 PM

Still stand by this post:

"MLO's plan for September 1st was to get his followers established outside of Congress, block access to all but Coalition lawmakers (lawbreakers?) and introduce AMLO as the Legitimate Prez of Mexico to an astonished nation. Too bad for him that the Bejarano Bunch didn't get a beachhead; the PFP didn't play along.

Posted by: K. Vronna | August 30, 2006 07:50 PM"

Posted by: K. Vronna | September 1, 2006 05:17 PM

It's very sad to see how the media rules today in every single activity in the world. In Mexico, although media has "freedom" to publish any information. About 90% of it is CONTROLLED by rich people, which either are linked to the ruling party (PAN or PRI, which in practical terms are the same) or being benefited by them by first or second hand. Those benefits are illegal most of the times, remember that Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
At the same time there is a person (Lopez Obrador) who is outside the power circle, and who is willing to stop those ilegal benefits. Guess what does the media does?? Everything they can to stop that person to reach the presidential chair. That is what happened in Mexico. I understand that people outside of the country believed that Lopez Obrador was going to be a "Hugo Chavez like" because that is what the ruling party wanted to them to believe, but inside we have the OBLIGATION to inform ourselves and analyze the crap we are receiving on TV and most of newspapers. The main problem is that most of the people has no access to education so they trust in what they watch on TV.
One of the TV ads paid by the Business Coordination Chamber stated: If you vote for Lopez Obrador you'll loose everything you have.
My mother's maid ask her if it was true, and the lady lives in really poor conditions and obviously is not educated. Guess what she did?? she voted for Calderon.
If either Lopez Obrador or Calderon are the best or the worst for the country is not important when the population was pushed to vote for one of them. That is the problem in Mexico, the elections were NOT democratic whatsoever.

Posted by: Jorge | September 5, 2006 04:12 PM

Regarding your WSJ survey, trust me, in a country where 50% of the population makes less than USD 2K a year, a survey needs to be a lot different and more thorough than an internet poll, even a telephone one, you need people asking the people directly in the whole country including those places where people has no water or electric service. It's hard to trust in WSJ polls!!

Posted by: Jorge | September 5, 2006 04:29 PM

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