WMP: Weapon of Mass Production?
First, thanks for keeping things in order over the weekend. I haven't looked at the comments from the last entry -- the breaking news that Nick Johnson won't play for the rest of the year (shocker) -- but I'm sure that little acquisition on Friday or Wily Mo Pena (shocker) spurred some discussion, no?
It's hard for me to know what to think here. I know this: It's a good thing Jim Bowden didn't bite on those ridiculous notion of Pena for Cordero or versions thereof over the winter. We know already where this leaves Langerhans (hello, designated for assignment). But where does it leave Ryan Church? For now, platooning. And who becomes the player to be named later?
As the excellent Gordon Edes wrote in Saturday's Boston Globe, he had a source with intimate knowledge of the deal say the player to be named is Chris Carter, a first baseman who has been trapped behind other talented young players in the Arizona system. But in order for that to happen, the Nationals would have to first acquire Carter.
How would this happen? Well, try out this theory: Maybe it has been delayed because Arizona wants relief help. And maybe the Nationals have offered Jesus Colome. And maybe the Diamondbacks want to know that Colome, out so long with that you-know-what, is healthy and can pitch effectively.
This is just a theory, but it's possible that if Colome comes through one or two outings in good health, Colome goes to Arizona, and Carter goes to Boston via Washington.
There are people within the Nationals' organization who would like to have Colome back next year. This would not prevent that, as he could still re-sign.
Good to be back. I've just landed in Houston. Will get you more from the ballpark.
By Barry Svrluga |
August 20, 2007; 2:38 PM ET
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Posted by: Not Jesus | August 20, 2007 03:00 PM
Welcome back Barry! Its all just gossip without you.
I like the Wily Mo deal and think he has a chance to do for us what Ortiz was to Boston after not being kept by Minnesota. But we still need some good pick-ups this off season but I have hard time envisioning who we could get-- and how?
You have to give up good players to get good players, so who is the best player to get traded in the next year from the Nats?
Posted by: GoNats | August 20, 2007 03:04 PM
Is Carter good enough to warrent a major league pitcher? NFA was pushing that this would be an all minor league player deal (since Pena was headed there soon) and they don't want to do the swap before the season ends, or at least before rosters expand.
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 03:06 PM
Perhaps the Nationals will get an outfielder from the D'backs as well.
Posted by: GoNats | August 20, 2007 03:09 PM
Welcome back, Barry. Weapon of Mass Production -- I like it. Hope that he'll be doing some serious shelling on this road trip.
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 03:12 PM
Interesting story if it is indeed Colome. If I remember correctly, the Nats were about to send him down to AAA after Spring Training, but that would have triggered a clause in his contract that would allow him to walk.
He stays up, and has a resurrection of sorts. He takes a few mph off his pitches and suddenly rediscovers his location. He becomes Every Day Colome, part of the strongest bullpen in the league.
Then he goes on the DL with a butt infection. Seriously, only on the Nationals.
Comes back, gets traded in a three-way deal for Wily Mo Pena, who was on his way to AAA himself.
Then perhaps returns in the offseason?
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 03:15 PM
I've been out of touch for some time, so apologies for bringing up the Willy Mo trade, which I'm sure has already been fully disected.... I just have to say that my first reaction was "Oh no! A rally killing strike out king with warning track power!" but then I saw the quote that went something like... "They tell me {RFK} is a big park, but if you've got some pop, it's not too big."
You go, Willy Mo!
Posted by: natsagain | August 20, 2007 03:16 PM
So how do we get Colome back for next year? I like that plan. It's like getting WMP for free. Actually, with the cash involved, it's like being paid to take him, which is even better. But I don't want to lose Colome.
Aaron Rowand, CF. Unless he asks too much, then Kearns in CF.
Posted by: Section 506 (After moving) | August 20, 2007 03:17 PM
I never expected to see WMP at right field. What's next, Zim not batting third?
I think Kearns at Center is a test, if he can do it we have more options with trades or free agents for the outfield. I think we would prefer a top CF (ie Rowand), but if he re-signs with philly or the price goes astronomical we have alternatives.
And everyone knows what alternatives in the outfield means, say hello to Adam Dunn in your new 2008 outfiled of former Reds (or commies as ball-wonk calls them) of Dunn in left, Kearns in center and Pena in right.
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 03:25 PM
HOWL with Nationalism Journalistically
- inspiration by AG, with thanx
HOWL onto the infobahn,
The wordy worldly race to finish
At the next World Series of End Times.
Howls and screams, and slippery whispers
From a city ragsheet to a flickering screen
Where paper and its ink are not enough, are left behind.
Shifting words in arti-light
Of Garamond and Arial.
Murmurs through the ink and sweat of newsprint
Papered over to a world of pixelated light;
Energy beyond belief.
Voices once within a range
Of nothingness
Now heard aloft ... above.
Screams and shrieks with newborn thoughts
From voices loud and lovely
Shouts puff out from rising clouds of dust
Up from sandlot fields of dirt and pain.
Mounds and footpaths
Bushy backyard's playground sandlot
The pinnacle of days
And well-lit nights.
Elevated sing-song voices
Lift their praise of mens' endeavour.
Hearts are quickened, souls renewed.
That which children once enjoyed
And longed would last forever.
Scmoozes and guffaws ring out
On wings of devils -
Angels of the written word -
Fill nights and mornings after
With the sound of basic love
Of life played out in perfect time.
Mathematics machinations mix and mingle
Abstract philosophical puts the lie
To calculations.
Human efforts toil and trouble spent,
Cashed in on diamond grass
And QuickDry dirt;
Cannot be reduced to digits
Where names and faces
Lie beneath equation marks and
Quod erat demonstrandum.
HOWL! Join with one another
Lifting shouts of praise
And groans defeat.
Bring your comfort for one another
Sing together in
One unbroken song;
Exquisite joy - the pleasure
Known to one and all
Who love the perfect game.
Tentative approximations faintly offered
Possibility of kind rejection
Whispers, hums and loud hosannas
Come from wide and often far.
Fly in together
Making room for voices' songs
One-upmanship in friendly banter.
~~~~~~~~
Voices now unravelling
As time competes with time.
Unity in Utopia puts up a fight but
Finds a failing grade to call its own.
HOWL, lay low and shift
Move on in diverse ways and means
Until the symphony
Can stand cacophony no more.
'Twas ever thus, the poet said
And voices find another song
Always in such time and tune
Within the perfect game.
Grunts and growls and hoots and howls
Go out, come in, come back, go forth again.
The game's the thing; that's all there is,
And voices cry for living proof.
Can one die off, still be replaced?
Another voice to take its place?
One comes, one goes, the game lives on.
And in the end no one can say it better.
Old friend Eddie - E. R. Murrow
Always had the last long word:
Good Night and Good Luck.
david f watts, august, 2007
reduxit AT gmail.com
Posted by: natscan reduxit | August 20, 2007 03:30 PM
I think a Player to be Named Later (PTNBL)has to be either a minor leaguer or player on option to the minors.
Since the teams have six months to agree on a PTBNL, there's no rush here. If the two teams can't agree on a player, then there's a cash settlement as when the Nats acquired Nook Logan.
Posted by: Millon deFloss | August 20, 2007 03:30 PM
Barry, your blog is like crack. I've checked this thing 100 times in the last 72 hours, hoping you'd interrupt your weekend off, so the littles could get an update (sorry, I'm selfish). So glad you've returned. Wily Mo strikeouts is what this trade seems to me...
Posted by: Phillip | August 20, 2007 03:35 PM
Natscan --
love the poesy!
Posted by: nats fan in annandale | August 20, 2007 03:35 PM
As do I, nats fan in a'dale. But I hope it doesn't mean that you are leaving us, natscan, because of one anonymous critic. Say it ain't so!
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Natscan --
love the poesy!
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 03:38 PM
You mean to tell me we traded a serious *young* power hitter who may yet be the 40+ HR guy everyone says we need and who plays a position that will certainly be open in two years if not sooner, for ANOTHER onesie-toolsie outfielder we don't even have a spot for? BEFORE WE EVEN HAD THE GUY? That has to be some kind of record.
Posted by: C "yes I'm reposting" evans | August 20, 2007 03:46 PM
Dang, Natscan! :-)
Barry: what say the next time you take time off (which I wouldn't begrudge you although I will also admit that this is the most addictive DC baseball blog around), you do what LaCanfora does and have either your intern or editor or whomever set up a day-of-game thread each day? Doesn't have to be particularly witty or anything (although Yanda did a good job on the game writeups and notebooks in your absence).
Posted by: Juan-John | August 20, 2007 03:46 PM
I'm ver curious how the line-up is going to develop over the coming weeks and how that might reflect in the line-up and trades/FA signees for '08.
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 03:49 PM
Suggestion for new mascot: Toonces, the Cat Who Can Drive A Car.
"Toonces plays center field (he just doesn't do it very well)"
Posted by: Not Screech's Mom | August 20, 2007 03:50 PM
I am curious too. I am starting to wonder who the real long term keepers are in Natsland. Zimm of course. Flores maybe. And Hill has entered the discussion. Anyone else?
Posted by: GoNats | August 20, 2007 03:52 PM
I think a PTBNL simply has to change leagues within 6 months. It could be someone on the 25 man roster, since the NL and AL are different "leagues".
The Chris Carter guy seems like the Nats will have to send something worthwhile to the DBacks though. Colome would make sense, talent wise, but he has to clear waivers (or at least be claimed by ARZ) and he can't be sent after the season because he's a free agent. I doubt Colome is the guy.
Posted by: O's fan | August 20, 2007 03:53 PM
Dangerous handle in these parts, O's fan. Still, good point about Colome. Would they trade a minor league pitching stud that might work in the bullpen? Chico?
Posted by: Section 506 (After moving) | August 20, 2007 03:57 PM
PTBNL:
1)The transaction must be completed within six months.
2)The player named later can't have played in the same league as the team he's being traded to. That's why the player named later is almost always a minor leaguer.
3)If no names are agreed upon initially, the clubs will agree on a price to paid in lieu of a player.
Sometimes, at the time of the deal the team receiving the player will provide the other club a list of minor leaguers, and later the club will have their pick of the players on that list. This list is negotiated at the time of the trade.
Sometimes "Player to be named later" is used to trade players on the Disabled List, since it can be embarrassing for a club to trade for a guy who's on the DL.
Posted by: GoNats | August 20, 2007 03:58 PM
Best guess for lin-up for tonight and then best guess for April 2008;
1. Lopez (44)
2. Belliard (2B)
3. Zimmerman (3B)
4. Young (1B)
5. Kearns (CF)
6. Pena (RF)
7. Church
8. Schneider
9. Redding
Next year;
1. Guzman (SS)
2. Johnson (1B)
3. Zimmerman (3B)
4. Dunn (LF)
5. Pena (RF)
6. Kearns (CF)
7. Flores (C)
8. Lopez (2B)
9. Johan Santana (P)
Ok all you Rowand lovers (and Dunn haters) can put him in at 4 and playing center and move Kearns to one of the corners.
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 04:00 PM
I'm with Evans, Carter sounds like a much better deal than WMP, I would love to be proven wrong but I just don't see WMP as the next Big Papi, or even as an everyday starter.
You mean to tell me we traded a serious *young* power hitter who may yet be the 40+ HR guy everyone says we need and who plays a position that will certainly be open in two years if not sooner, for ANOTHER onesie-toolsie outfielder we don't even have a spot for? BEFORE WE EVEN HAD THE GUY? That has to be some kind of record.
C "yes I'm reposting" evans | August 20, 2007 03:46 PM
Posted by: SacredCod | August 20, 2007 04:01 PM
Woohoo!!
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Johan Santana (P)
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 04:02 PM
All right all you self-declared English majors....tell me I'm wrong here.
That take on Ginsburg was Natscan's farewell (read the last 2 stanzas carefully) to us. I noticed he had not posted since that "anti-natscan" screed from some blowhard from a few days ago. I think he is now formally saying good-bye.
SOMEBODY, DO SOMETHING !!!
-- ain't no English major, but psychology major serves just as well in this case.
Posted by: one of Barry's Babes | August 20, 2007 04:06 PM
After watching Johan's performance yesterday, nothing would make me happier than to see him wearing the curly W next season. I don't see the Nats ponying up for a two-time Cy Young winner, though.
I know I've said this before, but I certainly wouldn't mind Torii Hunter.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:06 PM
Here's Baseball America's take on the WMP deal. they only call him a potential 30 HR guy, not 40. Dang!
"The Nationals currently rank 29th among major league teams with 82 homers, so they'll find a way to get Pena at-bats. He'll never hit for a high average, but he still could develop into an annual 30-homer hitter. The Boston Globe has reported that the Red Sox may acquire Diamondbacks minor league slugger Chris Carter as the player to be named, which would require a deal between Arizona and Washington. Boston couldn't figure out a way to get playing time or production out of Pena, so swapping him for a prospect makes sense."
Carter is having a heck of a year in AAA but is buried. Sox really need a 1st base prospect, in part b/c Youk may move to 3d when Lowell goes. If the deal is Colome for Carter for Pena, it looks like a nice 3 way fit. Contender (AZ) gets a rental arm. Nats get either a 6 week trial (if they decline to give arbitration) or a 1 yr + 6 week extended trial of a huge young power prospect who most people think needs to play every day. Sox fill an organizational need.
Finally, for all the comments about WMP's defense, it should be added that Fenway was designed to make golden glove OFs look bad, with the disappearing RF foul territory and the curving low wall and the weird angles in CF. RFK and Nats Park should be much easier to play for him.
Posted by: jon | August 20, 2007 04:11 PM
I was hoping someone would get a kick out of Santana. I am reading a lot about what the Twins are going to do with him, trade him, try to extend him or let him go in FA. There isn't much chance they can pay him enough to extend his contract, even if he was willing - which I doubt - and even less likely if he goes on the open market.
How about we get Aaron Rowand this off-season and the sign Santana to a 5 year 125 million dollar deal for the 2009 season. We keep saying we need a top hitter and a top pitcher to put us in the upper rung, we are for sure playing for the post-season level, but nobody says we have to do it all in one year....
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 04:11 PM
I didn't get to see WMP in his first game. I watched the entirity of the second game... WMP has that "kill the ball" swagger about him. The kind of swagger that makes pitchers say that they would rather challenge Austin Kearns than face Wily Mo Pena.
Moreover, he isn't intimidated by the seemingly distant fences at RFK... the ones that will be rendered meaningless after September 23.
The acquisition of WMP poses two moderate-to-small challenges: 1) Will Austin Kearns move to CF to accommodate Pena in right? 2) What (if anything) do we need to do to get back some basepath speed? (It's not like we're sizzling on the basepaths now...)
I don't think that Pena answers the outfield questions... though it certainly improves the picture. We could keep Pena and still trade Church or Kearns... both of which appear to have some upside, either with the Nats, or with someone else. The thing about both of them is that we see flashes of what they could be... If you put Guzman and Johnson back in the lineup, and add Pena, that offers a lot of protection for the Zimms and Kearns and Schneiders of the team... especially if Hanrahan is pitching.
The 40 homer guys are always gonna strike out... the're 3/4 of an inch away from a three run homer for strike three... so I wouldn't be too hard on Pena unless he's striking out and not getting the dingers.
The "Glass Half Full" department has a lot to be happy about today.
Posted by: Wigi | August 20, 2007 04:13 PM
I've been all aboard the Torii train for a couple months. I love that guy. But I'm sure the Twins will figure out how to keep him. As long as he doesn't go to the Red Sox or Yanks! i.e. if the Twins can't get him, those guys shouldn't get him either.
NATSCAN! Don't go. If you do, insulting jerkface wins.
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I know I've said this before, but I certainly wouldn't mind Torii Hunter.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:06 PM
Posted by: NatsNut | August 20, 2007 04:14 PM
Hey, folks. Glad to be back. I'm sorry for not setting up some posts while I was gone, and I would have posted from my break had I been within earshot of cell service or a wireless network. (Dang coast of Maine is so 20th century.)
Anyway, I'll have very few days off between now and the end of the season. I wish they hadn't dropped this trade on a day off, but on the heels of the McGeary thing (and I've got some Didn't Make the Paper material on that) I just couldn't rip off a post or two on the WMP thing till today.
I appreciate your support. The good news:I don't think my next day off is till Sept. 10.
Posted by: Barry Svrluga | August 20, 2007 04:14 PM
Good news for US anyway...
(Thanks for your sacrifices Mrs. Journal)
;)
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The good news:I don't think my next day off is till Sept. 10.
Posted by: Barry Svrluga | August 20, 2007 04:14 PM
Posted by: NatsNut | August 20, 2007 04:20 PM
Barry's blog *is* like crack -- I check it constantly. This is the first time I have posted, though. I can say for sure that Natscan (and most of you) know much more about baseball than I do, so I do much more reading and learning than I do typing.
The level of collegiality and mutual respect in this community is notable for its rarity, and something of which you should all be proud. In particular, I always enjoy Natscan's postings -- thoughtful and, reflecting the mood of our team, constantly upbeat. If that excellent poem was indeed his swan song, we will all be much the poorer for it. But, somehow, I believe Natscan has thicker skin than that.
On the topic at hand, here are some stats for Chris Carter that I am sure you all know by now:
Chris Carter 1B
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Tucson Sidewinders
AVG: .327
HR: 18
RBI: 84
Born: 09/16/1982
Birthplace: Fremont, CA
College: Stanford
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 210
Bats: L
Throws: L
2007 Season
AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS
.327 125 499 74 163 39 3 18 84 262 50 67 2 0 .386 .525 .911
I have to agree with CEvans. It would be very hard not to keep that guy, if we somehow were able to get him. It's not like we are stacked with up and comers at 1B. If we could only have one player out of WMP, Every Day Colome, or Chris Carter, then I would put WMP as my third choice right now. Of course, a few more of those WMP monster HRs could change my mind, if he is able to decently field his position.
Hmmmm....I hope there is a reasonable cash alternative.
Posted by: Sec 312 | August 20, 2007 04:23 PM
wasn't it kasten who signed Maddux after his Cy young?
Posted by: naterator | August 20, 2007 04:25 PM
I don't know if any of you got to see any of the Twins game yesterday, but the Metrodome was absolutely electric. Yes, it was packed for Gary "The Rat" Gaietti bobblehead night. But Santana set that place on fire.
By the time he had tied the franchise record (15, a personal record for Santana), the crowd was erupting with every strike. It was incredible.
If the Twinkies could've put a few more runs on the board, he would've gone the distance. And the way he was picking up steam, he may have had 20 strikeouts.
Man, what I wouldn't do to get him in Washington (although, if you'll remember, he did lose to Speigner when the Nats came to Minneapolis this June). I know you were half-joking, estuartj, but now I'm caught in that daydream...
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:28 PM
Has anyone heard any buzz about this from the ARI end? I think this is all bogus, the report from Boston is BS and instead of Carter, who they wanted - but couldn't have - they are actually going to get....drum roll please....
Larry Broadway
The deal will gop through after rosters expand so they don't have to make aspot for Broadway when they really need to bring up an OF with speed.
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 04:29 PM
Estuartj:
If only you were(are) right...
Posted by: Wigi | August 20, 2007 04:35 PM
... "oh the sisters of mercy, they have not departed or gone."
Nor have I. But I take a little counsel on occasion ... from mysterious sources.
... stepping back somewhat. Life has begun to become too narrow of late - all Nats, all the time.
... need some time to smell the roses and the coffee. Lurking, while not a positive invitation, sounds like a road less travelled at this point, so let's see what rewards it brings.
... but you guys must not stop this wonderful blog. Lurkers have to have something to read.
GO NATS!
Posted by: natscan reduxit (reduxit AT gmail.com) | August 20, 2007 04:35 PM
Mrs. Nats Journal for baseball widow of the year...
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(Thanks for your sacrifices Mrs. Journal)
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 04:38 PM
"Yes, you, who must leave everything that you cannot control."
A noble goal for all of us, 312, here and elsewhere.
... I believe Natscan has thicker skin than that ...
Posted by: Sec 312 | August 20, 2007 04:23 PM
Posted by: c jr | August 20, 2007 04:41 PM
Hooray -- I will look forward to the possibility of you emerging from lurkdom (I hope with frequency, but I can understand wanting to smell the coffee and roses), natscan!!! (the proofreaders are asleep at the switch again as is evidenced by my long, giddy sentence)
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... "oh the sisters of mercy, they have not departed or gone."
Nor have I. But I take a little counsel on occasion ... from mysterious sources.
... stepping back somewhat. Life has begun to become too narrow of late - all Nats, all the time.
... need some time to smell the roses and the coffee. Lurking, while not a positive invitation, sounds like a road less travelled at this point, so let's see what rewards it brings.
... but you guys must not stop this wonderful blog. Lurkers have to have something to read.
GO NATS!
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 04:42 PM
Fortunately, Habs camp opens shortly.
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... stepping back somewhat. Life has begun to become too narrow of late - all Nats, all the time.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:44 PM
"I would have posted from my break had I been within earshot of cell service or a wireless network. (Dang coast of Maine is so 20th century.)"
As well it should be. Sometimes I think we live in a "too" wired society. This is usually right after I check this blog and Goff's Soccer Insider for the twelfth time in the morni-- I mean, day. :-)
And I second the motion for thanking Ms. Nats Journal.
Posted by: Juan-John | August 20, 2007 04:47 PM
estuartj - I thought Broadway to the Sox would make sense, too, but that in turn leaves the Nats exposed at 1st if Johnson does not come back and D Young goes down for any reason.
I think the Nats may look at the resigning of Young, plus the hoped for return of Johnson, and the presence of Broadway in AAA as a reason they could move a middle reliever who is not under contract for next year (if I read Barry right) for a guy who has already hit 45 home runs over a 650 at bat stretch in the majors (04-05).
As for why the Red Sox would give up a guy who has averaged 26 per 162 games (26 or 24, the stat is on ESPN and was given yesterday), they are (1) trying for a World Series this year, (2) need a RH bat that can play CF and RF, and (3) this season, WMP cannot play as a fill in a game or two a week. That's why they signed Kielty. For this year for the red sox, losing WMP is addition by subraction bescause they can't give him the playing time to straighten out in a pennant race. For next year, their RF and LF are under (exhorbitant) contracts, they have a good CF, their best position prospect is also a CF, and they have a pretty power guy (Moss) in AAA if they need a corner OF fill-in. Broadway /Carter fills a bigger organizational need at corner IF.
Anyone know if a guy on the DL can be put through trade waivers? if yes, then colome may have already cleared.
Posted by: jon | August 20, 2007 04:51 PM
Wow, we are a gracious and wistful bunch.
Until someone goes into a slump.
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"As well it should be. Sometimes I think we live in a "too" wired society."
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:53 PM
Your final from Miami, Giants 8, Marlins 7.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 04:54 PM
"Wow, we are a gracious and wistful bunch.
"Until someone goes into a slump."
John in Mpls, that was your worst post ever! Garr, you're garbage and we need to trade you RIGHT NOW!!!!
Posted by: Section 506 (After moving) | August 20, 2007 04:57 PM
UGH!! I am so not a fan of the WMP acquisition. Typical Bowden. The second Pena cleared waivers, the entire baseball world started the clock, placed bets, and just waited for the news. Now that this may involve, not only the trading of reliable "Every Day" Colome, but also a young OF prospect that would have been available for Colome directly as the PTBNL! Just awful.
And yes, the Boston fans can be harsh on failing players, but this post came from the most recent Sports Guy mailbag before the Pena trade went down and it captures my sentiments exactly:
Q: What do you consider to be a fair trade the Red Sox can make for Wily Mo Pena? My roommate and I were discussing it, and we decided that a cheeseburger would be fair. But not just any cheeseburger... we're talking a one-pound cheddar and bacon burger from Fuddruckers. We figure once we add on the tomatoes, pickles, relish, mustard, ketchup, jalapeƱos, nacho cheese and onions, we'd come out on top. Your thoughts?
James, Brighton
SG: Um, you'd come out on top if you traded Wily Mo for a single-patty McDonald's cheeseburger with nothing on it. But I like the thought of Theo Epstein announcing the deal, then holding a news conference in which he eats the Fuddrucker's burger in front of the reporters and cameraman and just repeatedly says, "Mmmmmmm ... . Mmmmmmm ... mmmmm, this is delicious, it almost makes up for the fact that we effectively gave away Bronson Arroyo ... mmmmmm ... yummmy ... "
Posted by: DE | August 20, 2007 05:03 PM
I don't know what I like about that post more - that it's cleverly ironic, or that it correctly employs quotation marks. I also like "Garr."
We are a clever and grammatically correct bunch, as well.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 05:04 PM
Oh - my bad, I thought Carter was an OF...just substitute "decent young 1B" in place of "young OF prospect"
I still don't like it!
Posted by: DE | August 20, 2007 05:09 PM
Garr, I believe, was an homage to Ava, of "RIBS in TORONTO" fame. Gosh, that was a great post (sighs wistfully)
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I don't know what I like about that post more - that it's cleverly ironic, or that it correctly employs quotation marks. I also like "Garr."
We are a clever and grammatically correct bunch, as well.
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 05:04 PM
Posted by: | August 20, 2007 05:11 PM
CAN YOU BELEIVE....that the following reader poll on the Nats MLB website actually has that many people thinking it will be JP ?? (Or maybe our own 'jpfanandproudofit' has stuffed the ballot box...)
Who will be the ace of the rotation in 2008?
Matt Chico
128 votes (10%)
Shawn Hill
656 votes (51%)
John Lannan
159 votes (12%)
John Patterson
201 votes (16%)
Tim Redding
130 votes (10%)
Posted by: one of Barry's Babes | August 20, 2007 05:11 PM
Man, you guys are killing me. Time to go home.
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Gosh, that was a great post (sighs wistfully)
Posted by: John in Mpls | August 20, 2007 05:12 PM
And Googleable (Googlelicious?), yet...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2007/06/parkway_series_finale.html
Gosh, that was a great post (sighs wistfully)
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 05:16 PM
John in Mpls-
Thanks for the Marlins update, pal! I can't believe they have been so kind to lose 5 in a row to go with our 4 in a row. Like many of you, I feared that the acquisition of WMP was inevitable over the last few years. I also thought overpaying for him was inevitable. Even if we lose Colome, I think we won't overpay now. Colome has been great, but for the first time in his career. I think that makes this a fair trade, if that is how it turns out.
PS- Why can't I think of a Nats-inspired nickname for this blog? Pete's sake!
Posted by: Kevin | August 20, 2007 05:18 PM
Sheesh. Ava posts ONE funny line a hundred years ago, not even about baseball, and everyone's all ga-ga. What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: EveryDay Commenter | August 20, 2007 05:23 PM
But wait, there's more --
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2007/06/home_on_the_road.html
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 05:23 PM
bad form barry, check the nats site. kearns moves to center, willy mo in right, church stays in left. i think its a bad choice, church plays like a center fielder and i think he would be much better than kearns.
Posted by: love | August 20, 2007 05:28 PM
Aw, you're all making me blush! I was out of town all summer (literally living in the woods), so all the ribs in Toronto opportunities just passed me by. And now I feel as if I've lost my chance forever! Sigh. Oh, Ryan. You'll live on in my heart forever.
Posted by: Ava | August 20, 2007 05:28 PM
Hey, Ava, you're here. Yay! You're famous now!!
They had 10 days to make a move re. Langerhans, right? So, who knows, he could be back? Maybe?? Guys?? For his defense??? (...crickets...)
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 05:32 PM
"love", aka "Church's mom"; yes, I remember you...
"church plays like a center fielder"
In what kind of league? A softball beer league? Kears is TWICE the defensive outfielder Church is. Blindfolded.
Posted by: Matt | August 20, 2007 05:33 PM
In a world where our AAA team reacquires Tyrell Godwin (released by the Reds' AA team- SHOCK!!!), somebody will certainly pick up Ryan Langerhans. I wouldn't bet much on anybosy trading for him before the 10-day grace period is over, though. He will certainly be released.
Posted by: Kevin | August 20, 2007 05:41 PM
Uh, no...I think that's Nook who is 'blindfolded'...that's why he never notices that he's about to either miss the ball or crash into someone.
Posted by: | August 20, 2007 05:42 PM
Take a gander at the construction cam for the new ballpark. It's a new setup - WITH A TIME LAPSE! It is really remarkable. http://clarkconstruction.oxblue.com/clarkhuntsmoot/
Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2007 06:05 PM
Kearns is far and away our best defensive outfielder. We'll know soon enough if that translates to center field or not.
If he can cut it we can trade Church for prospects, or (my preference) keep him as our 4th outfielder and left handed pinch hitter. All this to what cause, why to make room for Adam Dunn in left field, so we can have all all Communist (Red) outfield. Maybe we can nickname them the Warsaw pact or something equally hokie...
Not saying we should get done, only that its a metaphysical certainty!
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 06:16 PM
oooh, somebody's showing their age.
(and a shot at Va. Tech out of nowhere... isn't that supposed to "hokey"?)
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... so we can have all all Communist (Red) outfield. Maybe we can nickname them the Warsaw pact or something equally hokie...
Posted by: estuartj | August 20, 2007 06:16 PM
Posted by: Jack Reed | August 20, 2007 06:32 PM
Uhh, lineups?
Posted by: Juan-John | August 20, 2007 06:45 PM
Im saying its Desmond who goes.
Posted by: Andrew Stebbins | August 20, 2007 07:01 PM
"Nats get either a 6 week trial (if they decline to give arbitration)"
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Jon, Pena is signed through this next year, for almost $2mm. He is a FA after 08. No arb. this winter for him.
Posted by: Andrew Stebbins | August 20, 2007 07:11 PM
New posting, fellas...
Posted by: natsfan1a | August 20, 2007 07:22 PM
mlbtraderumors.com also saying it's Desmond. Good deal for the Nats if it is....also good for BOS as they get a decent 1B/DH type who isn't even on the 40 man yet.
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Great to have you back Barry? Any word on who else is on the short list to PTBNL? I would love to keep Colome.