I'm confused. What did we give up?

The Skins give up the 53rd and 189th picks this year and a second-round pick in '07.

Batman and Robin (Danny and Vinny... in costumes of course) continue to treat the Redskins like a Madden 2006 franchise. Seriously, how does trading two second rounders and a sixth rounder to get a guy who likely would have been available at #53 anyway make sense?

Unless Jason Campbell is ready to contribute in the next two years, the Skins also gave up a shot at a starting DL for a third string QB.

Two second rounders and a sixth rounder to move up 18 spots? That is insane...Other teams have figured out the Skins front office so clearly that they know no demand will go unmet. What a bunch of suckers...

Why not trade up one more spot and get D'Qwell Jackson? I'm sure Cleveland would have appreciated the Skins' gift as much as the Jets?

Any chance this was just Snyder's way of saying thank you for Moss?

I like it- the skins don't like to train people or pay for "potential". They had a specific and immediate need, a guy who could contribute available, and a trade partner they have a good relationship with.

Gibbs is on TV basically confirming this.

Of COURSE they gave up too much. They gave up too much for Campbell, they gave up too much for Brunell, etc. The SKINS do not care about draft picks at all. If you look at the history of the draft through GEORGE ALLEN, and GIBBS we always build through free agency. That is what we do. I like this linebacker. Did we give up to much for him? Yes.

Is the consensus factual in nature or simply the initial reaction by people who lack information?

Read this factual assessment:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154143

Future picks are devalued by a round when making a draft pick trade. That's how the NFL evaluates trade value. Current picks are just worth more than future picks. Given that jumping off point, the Redskins appeared to have made a reasonably sound decision as to VALUE of the draft pick trade, though it's hard to say where the team will pick next year.

Whether the team rated Rocky too highly is an open question, but, from the standpoint of valuation all teams use, the consensus should be that we did about what you have to do in order to make the trade we just made.

There again go the naysayers complaining. Maybe too much was given up and then again maybe not. Saunders brought over a 3rd string QB who knows his system and besides depth at OL, the Skins are pretty stacked. The addition of a qualified weakside LB is what was needed and he was one of the best athletes available as well, so why gamble to see if he was available at 53 while giving up some scraps in return when you can get what you want earlier in the round? See you late in January!! Hail Skins!!

Who are our DBs now. I mean one of our safeties is gonna be in court. We've got Archuleta, Bowen(is he still ok?), Rogers, and Harris. What do we do for a dime or nickel package? Do we have some other corner's I've forgotten about?

Good point. I cannot believe I forgot about Todd Collins, aka "the missing piece." Saunders might be an offensive genius, but I think he might be taken down a peg w/out his KC O-Line. Time will tell...

The real gamble took place last year, trading this year's first rounder (and couple other picks) for Jason Campbell. Instead of drafting a starting DT or OL for this coming season, the Skins have a backup QB who did not see am minute of action this year and is supposed to be the insurance policy for Brunell this year.

I wish I could share your blind loyalty, but as a fan who pays as much for parking as many fans of better teams pay for their season tickets, I expect more than two playoff appearances every 13 years. You cna call me a naysayer, but I call you a sucker. We need a GM... badly...

You forgot about Springs, Prioleau, and Jimoh.

To the poster who noted that the Redskins have built through FA instead of the draft since the days of George Allen: You are correct. And it was a successful strategy before the inception of the salary cap. However, since the cap has come into play how has that strategy worked? Not too well.

Austin,

If you send in regular payments for parking, one would assume you'd know the team you're parking to watch somewhat better than you appear to.

The Redskins offensive line has five starters. It had five starters before last year's draft started. No one taken last year was going to start this year on a very good offensive line.

The defensive line, similarly, has a full starting contingent and depth with the signing of Carter and the return of Evans. Campbell is a great unknown, no doubt. But, having a QB develop for a year in a pressure-free environment has value when you have hope that player will be able to lead you for a while should his talent translate to the NFL game.

To translate your choice to pay for parking in some projected negative on the team makes you foolish, don't you think? Don't pay for parking. Send the team a message. Don't blame them that you lack the self control to limit your spending. That's you bubba.

Blind loyalty isn't what formulates my opinion. I have been a season ticket holder since 1971 and have seen the generational changes that have taken place over the years from Lombardi to Allen through the Deadskin years, through Gibbs' first tenure and the subsequent ownership and coaching changes and I can say that since Gibbs' return there has been a progressive movement in all aspects of the club to improve its weaknesses. The best opinion we can make is that of an outsider guessing at the mechanics of running and building a succesful franchise otherwise we would be in the Skins' front office. If this pick is a bust will it ultimately set the team back? If this pick is a gem will it bring the franchise its fourth Super Bowl trophy? Will it help to pay for your parking? Probably not on its own, but hopefully it will lead us one more step in the right direction. By the way take the Metro if you can't afford to park at the stadium.

I love the die hard fans thinking that our opinion maters just becuase we pay to go to the game. We pay a decent amount to see a decent team. The owner has paid a fair market value for the franchise and therefore has the right to make the decisions that he deems fit. On a purely personal level, I belief that this is a good pick - did we pay too much to get it - yes . But sometimes there is more to trade negotiation then meets the eye like past or future consideration etc.
Thanks Danny for taking the gamble to make this a better team!!!

Of course the opinion of diehard fans matters. However, it only matters from a dollars and cents standpoint. If the fans stop buying tickets and merchandise, their opinion is far more likely to be heard than if the team is leading the league in revenue. Still, whether or not my opinion matters to Snyder does not impact my decision to express that opinion. Maybe you are grateful that you are paying more than ever for fewer playoff wins than ever, but I am not happy w/ the Snyder tenure thus far.

As far as my knowing the team, I guess I do not view Ray Brown as the Guard of the future in the same way that you do. Nor do I feel that Derrick Dockery has exactly lived up to his potential coming out of Texas. Still, if you really think that we have anywhere near the line of KC, prepare to be disappointed in Saunders.

The performance of the defensive line is more indicative of the effectiveness of Williams' system than of the talent on the line. If you really think the talent on the DL is one of the team's strongpoints, I need to get some of whatever you are smoking. At this point, I would love a young, talented DL for Williams to mold in the same way that he molded some of his young guys in Tennessee.

Thankfully the Post is not run by Redskin fans. If so, it would read more like a Soviet crop report than the current fair analysis of a team that is still just .500 since Gibbs' overhyped return.

All I have to say is lets sit back and see what happens. This is the year it is all supposed to come together. I still thing our backup DB's were as bad as they could get. Harris is gone but Pierson and the new guy Archuleta were getting burned by everyone last year. IF you needed a first down or a quick touchdown on st louis you went to Archuleta's side. I am stunned by that signing. He was a bum last vyear for st louis. We need help at DB and they better fix it today.