Why Not Schottenheimer?

One thought on the coaching search that the Washington Redskins are about to launch:

Why not Marty Schottenheimer?

Yes, Schottenheimer left the Redskins on less-than-wonderful terms after going 8-8 in his one season as their coach in 2001. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder was willing to keep Schottenheimer as his coach but wasn't willing to allow Schottenheimer to retain total control over football-related decisions. Schottenheimer wouldn't agree to a reduction in power, so he was dismissed.

But Schottenheimer has a way of taking such developments as business decisions and not personal ones. He and Snyder have been on good terms since. When Schottenheimer's son Brian, a Redskins assistant during his father's tenure in Washington and now the offensive coordinator of the New York Jets, was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 2004, Snyder put the Schottenheimers in touch with the doctor who had treated Snyder for thyroid cancer.

Marty Schottenheimer clearly can still coach, having gone 14-2 for the San Diego Chargers last season before being fired following a second-round playoff loss. He was out of the league this season, but his name has surfaced in connection with the coaching vacancies in Baltimore and Atlanta. If the Redskins decide they don't want to give the job to Gregg Williams and are unable to lure Bill Cowher out of retirement, why not consider Schottenheimer?

By Mark Maske |  January 8, 2008; 12:50 PM ET  | Category:  Redskins
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Posted by: Anonymous | January 8, 2008 2:39 PM

oh now here we go, days upon days of uncertainty rumors etc., you know for continuity sake if you want to hire an existing well qualified coach already on the staff no matter the race you should be able to...without all the hoopla over well did you interview a minority...and this is coming from a minority...

Posted by: 1trufan | January 8, 2008 2:51 PM

Sure, Mark. And why not Norv Turner? He's 11-5 for this season at the Chargers and still in the hunt for the honor of losing the AFC championship to New England.

The truth is that with the talent that the Redskins have bought, anyone should be able to coach them to the SuperBowl, IF they would get a GM to manage the long term prospects and get the head coach and owner out of the way--like every other team in the NFL.

Posted by: hisroc | January 8, 2008 3:18 PM

i still believe that if you put spurrier's offense with williams defense, we'd have a good team. this team is not the team with wuerful, jaquez green and trung candidate. bring the fun and gun back!!!

Posted by: i am not crazy | January 8, 2008 3:19 PM

What about Joe Bugal ? He was building a team in Arizona when he was fired out there.

Posted by: Bj | January 8, 2008 3:23 PM

So, Marty actually used the same doctor who treated Snyder for cancer.... wow they must be the best of friends, I don't know why he's not on Redskins One at this very moment!!! There's no way it has anything to do with the fact that the guy might be a great doctor!!!!! I could never force myself to see a doctor for life-saving treatment if I dind't like the person who refered me to him!!!

Posted by: BD | January 8, 2008 3:39 PM

Marty cant win the big one, but anyone who can go 8-3 with tony banks, michael westbrook and one audible, is welcome to coach the skins.

Posted by: i am not crazy | January 8, 2008 3:43 PM

Bring Norv in as head coach. Schottenheimer can run the defense, and Spurrier the offense. Gibbs can run press conferences, chapels, and meetings with "the fans."

Posted by: Anonymous | January 8, 2008 3:44 PM

Russ Grimm or Go Home.

Posted by: live_1 | January 8, 2008 3:51 PM

Last season wasn't a fluke for San Diego but Marty was lucky that he had LT. Marty was also lucky that Bum Phillips ran the D. Marty was even luckier that Cam Cameron dumbed up the Offense for Phillip Rivers. All in all, Marty & the Bolts were lucky enough to manage a 14-2 season so let's not go overboard with his skillz.

Posted by: Slim Pickens | January 8, 2008 3:52 PM

Quite frankly, I think Marty would be an excellent choice.

Posted by: Chris | January 8, 2008 3:53 PM

OMG! Are you on crack? The title of your posting should be "Please God - NOT Schottenheimer"

Posted by: Anonymous | January 8, 2008 3:53 PM

No more Martyball!

Posted by: JohnnyU2Berry | January 8, 2008 4:00 PM

No more Martyball!

Posted by: JohnnyU2Berry | January 8, 2008 4:00 PM

I would welcome Marty with open arms. Other candidates should be Grilliams and Russ Grimm.

Posted by: Joe the Fan | January 8, 2008 4:02 PM

molders of men such as marty and myself dont luck their way into 14-2. there are plenty of other coordinators who can help marty get the most out of the skins.

Posted by: molder of men | January 8, 2008 4:03 PM

Just watched the press conference and both Joe and Dan were doing everything they could to distance themselves from Gregg Williams every time his name came up... at one point when Joe was asked about him directly, he went so far as to say that the defense was successful becuase of Greg Blache and all the other coaches and spent the entirety of his answer NOT talking about Williams, even though the question was specifically about Gregg...

Posted by: Rhino | January 8, 2008 4:03 PM

What Mr. Maske was saying is that there's not animosity between Mr. Shottenheimer and Mr. Snyder. You brought back one coach already, in Mr. Gibbs; if another former coach, and a good one at that, is available, why not seriously consider him? Wouldn't that be better than not considering him? Wouldn't that be better than taking someone with a lesser record or an unknown just to be different? Whether Mr. Shottenheimer is the best qualified person or not is another issue; but if he's the best qualified person... well then, consider him. Makes sense to me.

Posted by: Dungarees | January 8, 2008 4:10 PM

This is funny because I was thinking this very same thing today. If it wasn't for Snyder's enamor for Spurrier he might still be coach here.

Snyder and Marty are indeed still on good terms.

I would welcome it, maybe two times is a charm.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | January 8, 2008 4:16 PM

re: Rhino

Good move snyder... nothing like blowing up a team that UNDERACHIEVED during a 9-7 playoff season, on pace for making the next step with a healthier team and some continuity next year.

Then again, it worked this year in dallas...

Posted by: Anonymous | January 8, 2008 4:16 PM

Are we goin crazy or somethin? we lost the GREATEST COACH TO EVER COACH, but he did leave his predecessor... GREGG WILLIAMS. DEFENSE people DEFENSE. just try to keep AL under as offesive coordinator. it just makes the most sense people come on. to top it all off we have gone backwards to much y not leave somethin that players are already accustomed to do we wanna win or do we wanna WIN (the big one) i really think that this coachin staff can do it.

HAIL!

Posted by: ??? | January 8, 2008 4:20 PM

Yeah... given the strong support among the players for Gregg, it would be a morale-crusher not to hire Williams...

The thought of having continuity next year AND a healthy Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas, Todd Wade, & Rocky McIntosh makes Joe's departure easier to take... to blow that up makes no sense.

Posted by: Rhino | January 8, 2008 4:23 PM

Re: the Al Saunders comment, I'm not sure we wouldn't be better off without him.

His system is obviously too complex if the only QB who can run it effectively (Collins) needed to study and practice it for 11 years! Clearly they tried to dumb it down for Jason (and for Brunell the year before) and that sort of neutralized its effectiveness...

Posted by: Rhino | January 8, 2008 4:26 PM

head coach russ grimm, bring back the 80's

Posted by: kevin | January 8, 2008 4:34 PM

The concern with Al leaving is that it sets JC up in his 6th offense in 8 years (including college). i dont trust snyder's ability to hire a coordinator that not just fits JC but makes him a better qb. instability ran bailey out of town, ruined lavars career and could hurt jasons. portis never fit our offense well. so many mistakes. this could be yet another disaster.

Posted by: disgruntled fan 4 life | January 8, 2008 4:37 PM

Re: Kevin

You want the 80's??? How's this?

I just found out that Richie Petitbon runs an alarm company in Crofton! What a no-brainer! Call him up!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 8, 2008 4:37 PM

Russ Grimm. Or Bill Cowher. Or Jason Garrett.

Posted by: Tim O | January 8, 2008 5:00 PM

How about just contracting the team out of the league? Nobody outside of Washington takes the team seriously. And after 10 years of ownership Dan Synder has proven that he doesn't have what it takes to hire coaches that will take the team deep into the play-offs.

Besides, it's what pathetic Skins fans deserve.

Posted by: Bored of DC | January 8, 2008 5:02 PM

Hire Gregg Williams as coach. Fire Vinny and hire a real GM who can work with Gregg. Let Gregg hire his own staff, with condition he must keep same offense. (If he doesn't get along with Al, find somebody else who knows the system - hey, how about Todd Collins?) Dan, of course, must bow out of any football operations.

Posted by: clfrdj | January 8, 2008 5:16 PM

Rhino,

Why do you say that only a QB who has studied the system for 11 years can run it? Was Trent Green a backup for 11 years before he ran it in KC? Because Collins with 11 years studying the offense was the ONLY QB FOR THE REDSKINS who could run it does not mean that it takes 11 years to learn. It just means it will take more than 1 or 2!

Posted by: BD | January 8, 2008 5:22 PM

BD, Fair enough... good point.

Posted by: Rhino | January 8, 2008 5:26 PM

Bored of DC, hit the road pal... nobody needs a cancer like you hanging around in here-- not today.

Posted by: Rhino | January 8, 2008 5:27 PM

No way. Marty has never won "the big one." I say you go with Gregg Williams and elevate Blache to run the Defense, with Saunders remaining as Offensive Coordinator.

Posted by: Bob | January 8, 2008 5:29 PM

Rhino, Why not today? For almost 20 years I've been listening to Skins fans tell me that anything wrong with the team has nothing to do with the team itself but instead outside forces. Gimme a break. Joe Gibbs WAS a good coach, but those days are over. Probably would've been better to have gone with someone else once Spurrier hit the road, but I know it's so hard for Skins fans to not live in the past.

Posted by: Bored of DC | January 8, 2008 5:33 PM

This actually makes some sense. Until the San Diego years, I would have said Schotty is a West Coast offense guy, and the Skins are Coryell-tree all the way to the three Lombardi trophies.

From Gibbs I through the end of Gibbs II, the Skins offense has been Coryell tree for all but three seasons:

2001: a failed attempt to install the West Coast offense under Schotty leaves us pounding Stephen Davis and playing shut down D to get some wins. Tony Banks was the QB. Are you kidding me?

2002-2003: Chuck and Duck under Spurrier, who could not be bothered with pass protection.

But, after San Diego where it was born, Schotty is now a Coryell guy. So, it's a good fit in that respect.

No doubt, it would lead to some tweaking of the defense. Some of those overqualified coaches would be out. General Schottenheimer doesn't need such minds around.

Posted by: mirf59 | January 8, 2008 5:40 PM

I think Rich Kotite is available.

Posted by: RD | January 8, 2008 5:57 PM

Dammit I am so sad Saint Joe is gone. I would rather go 9-7 with him than win a Super Bowl with anyone else.

But put Grilliams in for a year at least and see what happens. Who cares. Joe is gone forever.

Posted by: Shizzle | January 8, 2008 5:58 PM

Marty is the best hire outside of the organization. He is a terrific coach as long as he doesn't make his kids his assistants. But hiring outside means the GG and Al Saunders are both gone. And perhaps a bunch of other coaches as well. All in all, its either GG or Danny blows up the team. Given the unusual way this team was forged, that is a lot of risk.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 8, 2008 6:42 PM

Boring Offense!

Posted by: David From Elkridge | January 8, 2008 8:17 PM

BILICK provides an outstanding Offense!

Posted by: From BAL-TI-MOR | January 8, 2008 8:20 PM

Maybe Bill Parcells can be convinced to bail on the Dolphins and take the job here.

Personally, my vote is for Denny Green.

Posted by: Franklin | January 8, 2008 8:39 PM

Williams has to get the job. They paid him all that $ as a defensive coordinator. More than twice as much as any other coach. He is a master defensive coach who has learned from Gibbs & watched Gibbs. They should make a decision soon, because I am sure the fish will be calling. As for bored with DC, you must be a Cowboy fan. Go Giants!

Posted by: goskins1981 | January 8, 2008 9:06 PM

Well, the silver lining in Gibbs departure is it lends credence to keeping Collins at the helm and avoiding the QB controversy. Since the requisite "continuity" would involve Saunders remaining, it would be easy to rationalize keeping Todd at the helm. Williams has to stay though, no matter what.

Posted by: Todd is Godd | January 8, 2008 9:14 PM

Agree with several other posters here...it's not about whether or not it's Marty or Gregg or anyone else. Bottom line: it's either CONTINUITY (equals Gregg) or DESTROY/BLOW IT UP (equals anyone from the outside).

The one theme Snyder really seemed to emphasize today at the press conference was how important continuity is to him and wants to build on what the Skins now have going. You don't do that by going outside.

If the Skins put Gregg in as HC and keep Saunders, then expect Collins and Campbell to have open competition for the starting job for '08, Collins to win and the team to go double-digit wins/playoffs+.

If the Skins bring in a new HC from the outside and lose much of the current staff, all bets are off and we've gone back 5+ years.

Here's to hoping continuity wins (so the Skins will too).

- Fan4Life

Posted by: Fan4Life | January 8, 2008 11:53 PM

The skins need continuity.

Grilliams is the guy that can make this happen.

A new chapter for Skins Glory...you'll see!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 9, 2008 2:00 AM

Grimmmmyyyyy!!!!!

Posted by: Nobcentral | January 9, 2008 2:42 PM

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