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". As one mother adroitly pointed out, "[t]his is not Porn 101. This is school." Another father called the incident "gross negligence," claiming it "opened a Pandora's box, for parents" (presumably referring to the Greek myth)."

LMAO.

Actually, Porn 101 would have been a school class I did not skip.

As far as Pandora's box is concerned, that sounds like a privacy issue between her and her parents.

wow, definately sex ed should be reformulated. I disagree with the school board firing Mr. Groff. Students know about these things anyway and it cannot hurt to brush up on g-spotting.

How much more sex-scared can we make kids. God forbid kids learn about the clitoris. Sheesh.

It could only help to know what a clitoris is and how to find it. For most guys that takes years of embarrassing failure and for most women years of embarassing frustration. Liberate the clit

If you idiots actually took the time to read what was on the handout you would be singing a different tune. There was detailed info about anal sex, and different disgusting positions. No 13 year old girl or boy should be forced to discuss anal lubricant during health class.
I feel embarrassed writing about it and I am an adult. The board did the right thing by removing Mr. Groff. In my opinion they would have been justified in charging him with a crime. What he did was boarderline child abuse.

I love some of the parents who say this kind of stuff should be taught at home. HA! If you tried to teach your kids about how to french kiss you'd be locked up for child abuse.
What do people think? That kids are all virgins who fall in love one day marry and lose their virginity on the honeymoon in a perfectly fulfilling moment of conception and symultanious orgams? WAKE UP! That is fantasy.
Many people lead sadly unfulfilling sex lives because they are too afraid of their own bodies and were never taught about how to enjoy it. I wish there had been a Groff teaching me in 8th grade! College would have been a lot smoother.

Since parents are the ones paying taxes they should have some say over the kids curriculum. It would be nice if they took such an active interest in other less salacious subjects like math, or history but they do have a right to control to some extent what their youngsters learn. Because of that if they agree clitorises (sp?) aren't appropriate then so be it.

i think he should be fired and fined $250,000.he should also never be able to teach ever again

Give me a break! Anal sex for 8th graders!No one really wants that. There is a responsible way to teach the basics of sex ed without all the graphic stuff. Groff over stepped and is lucky he is not in jail.

So I guess you would like it better if our kids all became nuns and monks? Your wife must be really satisfied

That was not very nice!

After reading the hand-out which was so controversial, I must say that I really don't see this as grounds for a teachers dismissal. Should information pertaining to real-life questions which many or at least a sizable minority of the students have? I am not so much appalled as genuinely worried that so many seem to think that by maintaining a state of ignorance about sex and sexuality, that "the kids" will somehow be protected. The pamphlet provided age-appropriate information and a frank portrayal of imporatant topics, and to ban the teaching of safe and enjoyable sex practices puts many people at risk, psychologically and physically.

This entire matter can be treated as a learning curve for all involved (parents, teachers and students). Mr Groff's decision to modify the curriculum was premature. It would have been more ethical for him to have consulted with both the school and parents before introducing this lession to the sexual education curriculum. Firing Mr Groff, fining him $250,000 and sending him to prison are absolutely unnecessary. Adolescents today require a sexual education curriculum that is balanced and informing. The scientific literature clearly shows that providing abstinence-only education does not work. Further, if you do not attempt to to teach adolescents about human sexuality within a controlled and supervised environment then they will seek the information elsewhere, which is likely to lead to a generartion of misinformed adolescents. Reinstate Mr Groff and work with him rather than against him. Our youth's positive sexual development depend on it.

I say kids learn best on theyre with some guidance from theyre folks. There are some subjects which schools cant go and mess with like sex cause all parents got different standards
What teacher Gruff did went so far beyond the call of duty that he is lucky some dad didn't rough him up. YOu cant just talk dirty to a room full of young girls and expect people wont be agnry about it?

What's the point of offering a comment if you disagree with this "curriculum"? In Montgomery County a group of my neighbors were outraged when they learned what their kids were being taught, but even petitions and teacher meeting didn't change a single thing. The Post demonstrates where it feels on this by casually mentioning that the class "was a little too spicy." Are we talking about a burrito -- or the heart and mind of a child? Let's focus on that word: "child". What kind of values are we coaching?

These kids already have access to the internet... They will have more exposure to sexually explicit material than any prior generation of kids in history - and this is across the whole industrialized world. In this sex-saturated social environment, I can only applaud any effort to get good, concrete, explicit information into the hands of kids - stuff they can use to make choices. If the teachers don't do it, the pornographers will.

Porn is all about fantasy and transgression. We have to counter that with reality, and sticking our heads in the sand is not reality.

This teacher should be put in charge of sex-ed for the whole state!!

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Let's all get real here. These kids are 13-14 and in 8th grade. Information on masturbation and oral sex is absolutely age appropriate. Parents have a hard time realizing that their kids are sexual beings. They are already masturbating and chances are 14 year old Sandi, mentioned in another writeup of this story has already had oral sex or damn sure will this year.
Now it does sound like the handout was too advanced for this age group, with the g-spots and the lubricant, etc. But you had better hope your kids are getting basic information on safer sex practices like mutual masturbation and condom use when they start engaging in sexual behavior.

From a teacher to parents...WAKE UP! Your children are not as innocent as you would like to believe.

You holy rollers are too much. Kids these days know way more than you give them credit for. Your hangups about sex are a big part of the reason we have the lowest birthrate in the industrialized world. It's you who should be ashamed of yourselves.

Wow so I am 20 and I remember starting my little sexual explorations in the end of 6th grade, bad thing was I didnt know much about it and I ended up trying to masturbate with a empty top part of a glass bottle with a little oil because I heard you needed something called lube but it was as close as I could get. I also ended up getting frustraited that I had no real "alone time" so I did more in public restrooms. Had I been supplied with worksheets I would have been a lot cleaner and safer, and I had no idea what a condom was by the time I was offered to try sex the first time! luckily I just didnt like the guy enough to go for it. I think the anal stuff should be left out but still have a way for the kids to come upon the information on their own just because anal sex would have in a way made me upset in the 7th 8th grade too. I lost my virginity when I was 17 and after that I was wondering what the big flipping deal was. If a teenager chooses abstinence that is great for them to choose it but that does not mean the hormones will go away! You religous people gotta realize that the really freaky sexual kids I knew in school were the mormons and catholics that were "pure" and really sheltered! EDUCATED THEM!

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Hey you agree that this teacher shouldnt have been fired and that he is doing the right thing..and yet Eminem has been preaching that fact for years in his songs "The REal Slim Shady" for example yet jsut because he has said this you look down upon the subject becasue he is a questionable source. Why dont you people look into this teacher before you lay your judgement. He may be even worse then SLim Shady..but you dont know do you!?! Hey get your information straight before you go on your holy roller, holier-then-thou act.

I am 24 years old and did not lose my virginity until I was 16. Most of my friends however had all had sex, oral sex, and other experimentation by the end of my 8th grade year. We were not taught these things I didn't have a sex ed class until highschool. I think this teacher did the right thing informing these "kids" on the facts. Teens today are over sexed through music, television, movies, magazines, and video games. They need to get real information on how to make informed desicions not from some rapper on the radio telling young men to f*ck strippers or slap their girls around. Shouldn't we prefer a responsible educated person giving kids facts over teens coming to thier own conclusions through outside influences?

joe killens

i hate you.

let the dude teach. damn

yea, its me again...

to pam:
true!!!!

ur kids arent as innocent as u would like to believe.

everyone who oposed this man. i hope ur daughters get preggy, if u have a son, i hope he gets preggy.

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