Sen. Larry Craig Got 'Disorderly' in an Airport Bathroom
Idaho Republican Pleads Guilty
Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho), a three-term senator, "pleaded guilty earlier this month to misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges stemming from his June arrest by an undercover police officer in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport."
Sound familiar? OFF/beat readers probably remember Florida State Rep. and Idiot of the Year nominee Bob Allen, who blamed his alleged bathroom solicitation of an undercover male cop on a fear of black people. Craig, 62, was merely accused of playing footsie under the stall door and "brush[ing] his hand beneath the partition between them." Craig contends that it's all a big misunderstanding, explaining to police that "he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom."
Much like Allen, though, it appears like he may have attempted to use his political position to avoid arrest. According to a police report obtained by Roll Call, Craig showed officers his Senate business card and asked them: "What do you think about that?" Apparently, not too much, as he was arrested, fined $500 and "placed on one year's probation, beginning Aug. 8, the date he pleaded guilty. He could face an additional $500 in fines and a 10-day jail sentence if he violates probation."
Despite claiming he only pleaded guilty to expedite the process and that the facts were misconstrued, Craig, who unsuccessfully ran for GOP whip in 2003, yesterday resigned as chairman of the presidential campaign in Idaho for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. (Allen, you may remember, was forced to step down as co-chairman of Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign in Florida.)
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By Emil Steiner | August 29, 2007; 10:00 AM ET | Category: OFF/beat Politics
Posted by: ed | August 28, 2007 1:10 AM
I'm sorely disappointed in the liberal media for waiting until the end of August to report this story. Where IS the liberal media when you need them?
Posted by: idahoan | August 28, 2007 1:19 AM
Just wait. Bush, Cheney and their evil regime supporters are next. The bush-co republican party of criminals, liars and con-artists will receive what they deserve. KARMA.
The fun is just ready to begin!
Weeeeeee!
J.C.
Posted by: jesus | August 28, 2007 1:29 AM
While I'm so happy to see another hipocritical republican totally face-plant, it is a bummer that he even was caught under these circumstances. We are spending tax dollars on undercover officers in the hope of catching gays playing footsie in the bathroom!?! The country I love is becoming a police state. Why, what is the point? When did America forget we're supposed to stand for freedom?
Posted by: teko | August 28, 2007 1:40 AM
Remember Bill Clinton and the cigar trick under the desk in the oval ofice?
Stop being hypocrites. It looks foolish.
Posted by: TLM | August 28, 2007 1:44 AM
Oh that's right, play the "but Clinton did it" card, how lame. This is a completely different situation where a politician who himself is gay shamelessly and disgustingly votes against the rights of the very same people. Stop reusing tired old arguments about Clinton.
Posted by: TD | August 28, 2007 1:51 AM
Remember Bill Clinton and the cigar trick under the desk in the oval ofice?
Stop being hypocrites. It looks foolish.
Posted by: TLM | August 28, 2007 01:44 AM
WOOOOW!!! The Repub's will bring up that for everything, How they can even try to compare the two is beyond. But if thats all they got, i guess.
but which would you rather?1. guy entering bathroom looking to have potentially unprotected highly un-safe sex with a complete stranger or 2. A guy gettin a BJ from a female working underhim ( pun intended ) that he has known for sometime?
i think we know which, but it sickens me even speaking of the whole clinton thing everytime some GOP get caughts doing something he verbally is against or even something not related to sex. The repub's are falling & they are going to do & say anything (like they dont) to try & take they focus off there gay orgies & asking to let other men suck them off. Its always the people who fight & yell bout things that they say are degraiding that get caught doing them (pun also intended) but thanks for the time & back to sleep , i woke up & read dudes comment, ijust had to. sorry to all the "English" teachers who are going attavk me while still understandin me but proving there attention spans are in true need of there time. Peace to all. 1.
Posted by: Jar | August 28, 2007 2:02 AM
Bob Allen,Rep.(Fla) lost his bid to have case tossed out on 8/27/08
Now he's set for trial on Sept 19th jury selection. It's his word against the cops, since he's gotten some evidence tossed already, based on Miranda. What Drama he has put his family through, and still will not accept responsibility for his mis-judgements.Next comes a jury trial for a $20.00 prostitution case.He swears he will still run for senate next year.
Posted by: Tomike | August 28, 2007 2:06 AM
I bet Senator Craig hates the movie American Beauty too! Funny how these vehement denials and hypocritical stances seem to be telling us much more about the person than they even realize...
Posted by: Jokester | August 28, 2007 2:20 AM
Isn't this guy also an NRA director? I wonder if the gun crowd is worried it might lose one of its top cheerleaders if Unlucky Larry's political clout is diminished?
I long for the days when Idahoans lost their minds and actually sent Democrat Frank Church to the U.S. Senate for not one, but for four terms. Sigh!
Posted by: Steve K | August 28, 2007 2:22 AM
Psssst... I hear Larry Craig took a Crapo in the cloakroom....Psssst Pass it along. Also take along phonetic guides to pronouncing Crapo to pass out in your travels.
Posted by: Famous Potatos | August 28, 2007 2:26 AM
Hey check it out. "His" Children aren't even his, there his wife's from a previous marrige whom he adopted. Can you say "beard"? Amount of times Larry Craig has had sex with his "wife" : Zero
Posted by: wiseass2147 | August 28, 2007 2:29 AM
"Remember Bill Clinton and the cigar trick under the desk in the oval ofice?
Stop being hypocrites. It looks foolish"
yOu are so right! Who can forget the ole cigar or the blue dress? We were reminded of it for nearly 3 long years with nary a hour going by without all the right wingnuts falling all over Swaggert & Reed & Fox & Bennett & the Weekly Standard harrumphs. No, let's not look foolish gaming hypocrites when Family Values can still be writ large across U.S. air space by corporate contributors. O yes, let's do remember, and not let the wingnuts forget for one single moment the boy from Idaho with just "a wide stance," just waving a pinkie under the stall at a brave cop sitting on a toliet showing his hard on...o glistening glans out of cover...The boy from Idaho tapping his wondering shoe... no wonder the need for toliet paper... A wet stogie...all blue anthem of white cresendo & red-topped waving patriotic flag... o Republicanism all spangled & viscous. O for sure let us remember & never forget the sheer glee at the Presidential blow job, the jokey sneers...o mores...o christian family values...of sweet liberty of thee I sing!
Posted by: mo | August 28, 2007 2:29 AM
Wow...what a shock...another self-hating, right wing homophobe is actually a big ol' closet case.
Posted by: desertdaoist | August 28, 2007 2:58 AM
It's a little bit funny. One look at Craig, and it's Mark Foley all over again. So much for Repub family values.
Posted by: BlueDog | August 28, 2007 3:29 AM
I think these politicians lack the sense of responsibility they have to all of us-they have no compassion for others much less for themselves so they become easily manipulated cromagnon men. They become easily stimulated by the overproduction of our media spectacle-in short they have no character! I would advise a serious daily meditation exercise on the six pillars of character for all those politicians out there whatever their party affiliations. Start doing right by this country and its people-stop getting so easily distracted and swayed by child porn, men in bathrooms, or winks by interns. Barber shop quartet? I don't see how that would be character building maybe some guru can enlighten me out there. I find that repression is a spicy ingredient that eventually if not released will release itself in some very disturbing and damaging ways. Raising the bar on our consciousness/awareness level may really assist in this process-I mean if these people really believed in God -then one would think they would really have grasped the notion that God is omnipresent-that there is a sense of accountability for all of our actions-much like Karma-a checks and balances system-My hot fantasy is that these powerful 'movers and shakers' operate with a strong sense of compassion and focus on their responsibilities and duties to America. They behave like another squirrel trying to get a nut-literally!
Posted by: NickatNight | August 28, 2007 3:55 AM
I have heard about his liking young men for years from several county and state officials in Idaho. He professes to be such a MORAL MORMOM. Being gay is different than having to approach strangers in a bathroom for sexual relief. I met with Senator Craig in Washington DC this year about mental illness and the lack of funding and care for the Idahoan's affected by mental illness. We had an appointment and I could not hold his attention when it came to the suffering. He just checked out the guys while we were having morning coffee. He only drinks milk. No coffee for the Mormons. I finally was able to catch him for a few minutes while he was leaving the JOHN! Politicians (liars)!
Posted by: Linda Jensen | August 28, 2007 4:23 AM
Didn't Craig date Bush's sister long ago? I recall mama Bush wasn't too happy about the lack of affection or something like that...maybe someone else remembers more.
I wonder who is next? Would someone start a list of all of our wonderful elected officials who vote one way and act differently in private? It could include more than sex. E.g., whose kid is in Iraq and whose isn't = how do they vote on the war? I'd like to refer to it when they're voting on various issues.
Posted by: Laughing in Oklahoma | August 28, 2007 5:22 AM
I'm shocked, but so deighted to learn about Larry. For a long time I have thought of him as "Senator Vitriol." Now,it's "Senator Closet." Or, should it be "Senator John?" Maybe "John Closet, the Vitriolic Senator"?
Posted by: Marjorie Medberry | August 28, 2007 6:11 AM
When will people finally wake up and see that the people purporting to agressively defend their "family values" are more likely to be those threatening them most? People who are truly rooted in their families, etc. actually tend to be more tolerant of others' differences. They do not feel threatened and have no need to overcompensate.
Posted by: ddd | August 28, 2007 6:23 AM
Republicans are giving gay people a bad name.
Posted by: AllHatNoCattle | August 28, 2007 7:21 AM
Yep, the Republicans look like hypocrites. The Democrats do not. It is difficult to look like a hypocrite when you believe anything goes. After all, wasn't Craig just exercising his constitutionally protected right to engage in an alternative lifestyle?
For you Democrats, the above is sarcasm, not a well-reasoned argument.
Posted by: Jim | August 28, 2007 8:29 AM
Here is just another example of hypocrisy that goes on with these "family values" fundamentalist politicians. They are so quick to discriminate against struggling American families because they do not fit their mold of a "traditional family", yet they get caught doing things like this. Way to go, you idiot! Gonna vote to deny people their civil rights again? Bet you are! YOUR ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THEN YOUR WORDS!
Posted by: Steve | August 28, 2007 9:02 AM
Wow, this list of anti-gay, closet "down low" Republicans just keeps growing and growing. At least Barney Frank had the gonads to say "yes I'm gay, bite me!"
Haggard, Foley, Allen, Craig, and others that just fade into the masses. Oh, and let's not forget Jim Gannon. He was the fake reporter who got a white house press pass with a fake name and just lobbed "feel good questions" at Bush. Turned out, that besides having a fake name and "mysteriously" slipping by White House background checks, he ended up being a gay escort that played to military fetishes while being a conservative cheerleader as his day job. Oh, and on more than one occassion, according to White House logs, he logged into the white house for visits, but "accidentally" was never logged out, leading some to believe he spent the night with someone there.
Someone contact T-shirt Hell dot com with a new viral T-shirt slogan:
"Republicans: They LOVE the c--k!"
Posted by: I.J. | August 28, 2007 9:15 AM
We gotta start over....I for one am sick of all politicians of all stripes. Can we have a "do" over??....puleeez
Posted by: disgusted w DC | August 28, 2007 9:19 AM
As one of the few Republicans on this board, I'd like to remind you all that Sen. Craig is innocent until proven guilty. He has not been caught doing anything gay and probably was just using the restroom. I dont think putting your foot near the other stall makes you a homosexual. Please be fair. Let me remind you again we are in America, the land of rights, due proces and laws. Judge not lest ye be judged.
God Bless You All
Posted by: Martha Ridell, UT | August 28, 2007 9:30 AM
Elected Official Blames His Arrest on Fear of Black People
Fear Caused Bob Allen to Solicit Gay Sex From Undercover Cop
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2007/08/fl_rep_bob_allen_blames_his_ar_1.html
Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | August 28, 2007 9:42 AM
I am gay and this behavior even disgusts me. I must admit however, I receive a modicum of pleasure when I read about a Republican Senator, who has voted against the rights and liberties of gay people, get caught doing the very thing they oppose. Sen. Craig voted for tougher laws for this kind of behavior, lucky for him they didn't pass.
GOP = Grand Old Perverts
Posted by: ChicagoBrian | August 28, 2007 9:45 AM
Martha,
Ask your husband. Men do NOT cross their foot in the other stall regardless o f the width of their stance. This was not the ladies room where we easily and without judgement pass paper under the stall.. Go on. Ask your husband or any other male- about normal men's room behavior.
And Craig did plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct. Who the hell would plead guilty to disorderly conduct in the bathroom? Give me a break. Would YOU E V E R in a MILLION years plead guilty to disorderly conduct in the bathroom for doing NOTHING?
I am of the opionion that this man seriously wanted to get out of whatever he is into in his life - no pun intended. This takes the exit out of his hands. The whole thing makes me wonder a whole lot of things about this man's actions that have nothing to do with with his sexual proclivities. And these are the actions we should be discussion.
Posted by: idahoan | August 28, 2007 10:06 AM
If this many men are getting caught, how many are doing the same and not getting caught? Must be at least 1000 to 1?? You guys seem to be out of control. Maybe should make sure you have your chastity belts on and throw away the key, before leaving the house!
Posted by: Word Star | August 28, 2007 10:20 AM
Democrats Hypocrites on Sex Scandals
From Newsmax.com
While they react with fury over the scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley, Democrats maintain a discreet silence over the numerous sex scandals that have rocked their own party.
And unlike Republican scandals like Foley's, where shame and resignation were the outcome, the Democrats' shameful behavior were either blithely ignored or jocularly accepted.
For example, former Chicago Democratic Congressman Mel Reynolds received a commutation of his six-and-a-half-year federal sentence for 15 convictions of wire fraud, bank fraud and lies to the Federal Election Commission. He also was convicted of having sex with an underage campaign volunteer. But Jesse Jackson added Reynolds to Rainbow/PUSH Coalition's payroll.
Moreover, Reynolds was among the 176 criminals excused in President Clinton's last-minute pardon spree.
As Deroy Murdock, a columnist for Scripps Howard News Service, wrote back in 2002: "This is a first in American politics: An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate, won clemency from a president who had sex with a subordinate, then was hired by a clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. His new job? ... Youth counselor."
Of course, Murdock's "president" reference was to Clinton, who admitted to inappropriate sexual behavior with White House intern Monica Lewinsky; the "clergyman" was Jackson, who also had an affair with a former Rainbow/PUSH Coalition aide.
After receiving Clinton's pardon, Reynolds became a consultant for the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition on prison reform. He was employed as the community development director of Salem Baptist Church in Chicago.
More notorious was the case of Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., In 1989, male prostitute Stephen L. Gobie admitted that Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., knew that Gobie had operated a prostitution service out of Frank's Capitol Hill apartment. Frank, an openly gay member of Congress, confirmed that he had Gobie as a roommate in his apartment. Frank said he fired Gobie when he learned that clients were visiting his apartment.
Was Frank told by the Democratic leadership to resign his seat as Foley was forced to do?
Not at all. That was 17 years ago, and he is still a member of Congress, a respected member of the Democratic minority and is slated to assume the chairmanship of a key House committee should the Democrats recapture control of the House.
When former Rep. Gerry Studds admitted having sex with a teenage page, nobody in the Democratic leadership demanded he resign, nor did he offer to resign. He had a joint press conference with the boy and bragged about their affair. He was renominated by the Democrats and re-elected six times before retiring.
As Rush Limbaugh noted Monday, "The truth is that the people on the left who are acting all outraged and stunned and angry, they don't see what Clinton or Barney Frank or Gerry Studds did as repugnant. In fact, they view those things as private matters that didn't affect anybody's work, and it's nobody's business what somebody does with their private life, particularly when it comes to sex."
Unless it involves a Republican. Then it's a matter of outrage and hypocrisy.
Posted by: zeeboid | August 28, 2007 10:23 AM
Where's the surprise? Does not the mere word 'Politician' conjure up a picture of lifelong dishonesty, immorality, thievery, deception, perversion, and lying?
Posted by: Jeremiah from Idaho | August 28, 2007 10:37 AM
Martha, he is not innocent. He pled. You are innocent until a conviction or you plead. He ADMITTED THE CHARGES. Just like Micheal Vick. You don't do that unless you are 100% sure the gov't can prove its case, especially if you are a self-hating homophobe who passes anti-gay legislation. Wide stance, my a**. So to speak.
Posted by: JJ | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM
Last fall, Craig's office publicly denied assertions by Internet blogger Mike Rogers that the senator is gay. Craig's office dismissed speculation about the senator's sexuality as "completely ridiculous."
In 1982, Craig denied rumors that he was under investigation as part of a federal probe into allegations that lawmakers on Capitol Hill had sexual relationships with congressional pages, saying the "false allegations" made him "mad as hell."
He was never implicated in that investigation, which eventually led to ethics charges against two other congressmen.
In recent years, Craig's voting record has earned him top ratings from social conservative groups such as the American Family Association, Concerned Women for America and the Family Research Council.
He has supported a federal constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, telling his colleagues that it was "important for us to stand up now and protect traditional marriage, which is under attack by a few unelected judges and litigious activists."
In 1996, Craig also voted in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act, which denies federal recognition to same-sex marriages and prevents states from being forced to recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples legally performed in other states.
Craig has also opposed expanding the federal hate crimes law to cover offenses motivated by anti-gay bias and, in 1996, voted against a bill that would have outlawed employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, which failed by a single vote in the Senate.
Posted by: Joe from DC | August 28, 2007 10:58 AM
Everyone, stop jumping to conclusions! Would you like that? Let the legal process work, let the voters of Idaho do their work, and the right thing will happen.
As for conservatives, stand for what is right, even if you fall. Reach for greatness of character, even if you fall. It doesn't make the message wrong even if the messenger falls. It is better to be a conservative and fall, then pay the price, then to be a liberal, that stands for nothing (except immediate popularity), where our immoral principles lead others into wrong and become a resume enhancement.
By the way, hypocrisy is not the greatest sin, no matter how much we want it to be. Someday, we will be judged for our own actions & attitudes and how we led others, not for someone else's hypocrisy.
Posted by: d.k. | August 28, 2007 11:00 AM
So, he is either (1) an astonishing hypocrite, or, (2) when he pleaded guilty to the charge, and the judge had him swear under oath that he was pleading guilty because he was in fact guilty, he was perjuring himself. Or else, I suppose, he might have been legally insane at the time, his comments do lend some support to that possibilty.
But, in truth, the voters have a candidate that is either a complete hypocrite or a perjuror, or both. Nice. They will probably re-elect him.
Posted by: RP | August 28, 2007 11:04 AM
Senator Craig looks a bit Haggard, doesn't he?
Posted by: limey | August 28, 2007 11:11 AM
idahoan's comment to Martha is exactly right. The customary behavior in a men's room is you keep the hell to yourself. This has been parodied on TV shows several times. You don't talk at the urinal, you keep your eyes straight ahead and pretend no one else is there. You don't talk in the stalls or make any other kind of contact. Even in my workplace if I go in and a co-worker is there we might grunt a "hey" but 99% of the time nothing is said. It's just how guys are. We sure as hell don't go sliding our feet into adjacent stalls or reaching under them. If you suddenly discover you're out of t.p., you don't do like Elaine on Seinfeld and ask if the person next to you can "spare a square." You keep to yourself until everybody else leaves and then go to another stall and hope there's some there. Maybe in college or high school bathrooms guys who know each other will say something, but not beyond that. Nothing about the Senator's behavior was normal bathroom behavior. Full disclosure: I'm a gay man, and while I'd heard about this foot tapping thing, I never knew if it was real or not. It seemed stupid to me. But I guess it is how it's done. I might feel sorry for the closet case if he hadn't voted the way he has.... I can't wait for more of these stories. You know they're on the way. This is what you get for supporting a party that hates you.
Posted by: Keith | August 28, 2007 11:17 AM
As a native Idahoan, I must say ... this is the most hilarious thing I've seen regarding a politician from the great Gem State in my lifetime. Way to go Larry! Spin it, buddy!
Posted by: John from UT | August 28, 2007 11:31 AM
Even if Craig is gay I don't see how that makes him a hypocrite. He was elected to represent the people of Idaho, not his lifestyle. If the people of Idaho are against gay marriage then he was doing what he was elected to do when he voted for the Defense of Marrige Act. Thats not being hypocritical, thats doing your job.
Posted by: mk | August 28, 2007 11:36 AM
Republicans are giving gay people a bad name.
Posted by: AllHatNoCattle | August 28, 2007 07:21 AM
HI-larious! Good one dewd!
Posted by: cheynebran | August 28, 2007 11:37 AM
Maybe this people should not make such a big issue of abortion & gays and focus on the real problems which are many.
Ironically these are issues that many voters especially republicans think of when they cast their vote. Thats why we have a (literally) chimpanzee in the white house.
Posted by: | August 28, 2007 11:54 AM
Craig has no choice but to deny it all, because no gay person is going to get elected in Idaho, especially a gay Republican. So, he has to lie to keep his job and keep the almighty dollars coming in.
Posted by: truthteller | August 28, 2007 12:03 PM
Zeeboid:
May I point out a few differences between the Democrats you mentioned and the recent rash of Republican "indescretions"? Legality. Yes, that's pretty much sums it up. Having sex with another consenting adult is not illegal. In the case of Frank, seems it was his roommate running the illicit sex "ring". As for being gay...nothing illegal in that. I might add that these Dems weren't trying to ammend the constitution to deny rights to fellow Americans (aka: the Marriage Act).
I do have to agree that the commutation of Reynolds sentence reeked. He was rightfully convicted and should have served his term...just like "Scooter" Libby.
The point I think people are trying to make here is that the Republican senators who have taken a moral fall are the same self proclaimed religious, conservative, family men that want to impose their moral values on everyone else...God forbid.
Posted by: Shup | August 28, 2007 12:11 PM
Craig has no children. The one's listed on his website are his "wife's" from a previous marrige, whom he adopted. Their "Marrige" is a sham to fool the homophobs in Idaho. I'm really tired of reading all these articles and seing all these stories
omit this crucial fact. You guy's are the washington post for god's sake. Call his office and ask if the children are his.
Posted by: wiseass2147 | August 28, 2007 12:20 PM
Okay Republicans, what are you going to do about Craig? Are you going to let the guy get caught, PLEAD GUILTY, then turn around and lie about it? Apparently this isn't the first gay episode for this guy. It is disturbing that not only is he a pervert, he is a liar too. No one pleads guilty to something like this if they aren't convinced that they will lose at trial. If this guy will be this deceptive in his personal life, he will certainly be unethical in his professional life. So, what are you Republicans going to do about this?
Posted by: truthteller | August 28, 2007 12:22 PM
I realize schadenfreude is a natural reaction, especially when you've suffered. However, assuming the police version of events is true, I actually feel quite sorry for Craig. This sounds like a tortured, desperate old man.
I realize some people who have always lived in relatively tolerant communities don't understand the experience older closeted gay guys in poor/rural/conservative communities have had. To this day, there's next to no support or positive role models for these people.
Part of the reason there are so many gay guys in DC is that there are so many people desperate to get out of places like Idaho. You'll find the same thing in state capitals (in Harrisburg, Pa., where I live, there are four or five gay bars within a city block of the state legislature).
Some empathy is in order. If not for Craig's sake personally, than for the sake of people who might feel compelled to make the same bad choices.
Dave M.
Posted by: Go Nads | August 28, 2007 12:31 PM
Just becuase your gay doesn't mean you don't have family values. So let us stop throwing that phrase around. Their our lots of fully functioning gay parent families in this country.
What this man is lacking is self-respect and a back bone. He is a servant to an absent God and he has sold his very soul to do so.
Posted by: V | August 28, 2007 12:58 PM
The RNC needs to do some routine maintainance on its gaydar systems. Either that or just come out once and for all.
And in responce to V, I think its safe to say Mr. Craig isn't lacking a back bone, he just has a broke-back bone... DANG! That one was JUST TOO EASY!!!!!
Posted by: Dice | August 28, 2007 1:19 PM
talk about karma man. talk about karma.
Posted by: kchi | August 28, 2007 1:26 PM
So Grandpa's a D__K Smoker... What's new?
Posted by: Nate | August 28, 2007 1:31 PM
I honestly cannot believe that anyone in Idaho could be surprised by this news. I've been hearing he was in the closet since I first moved to Idaho 16 years ago.
Posted by: dlj | August 28, 2007 1:31 PM
Someone should suggest that Senator Craig enroll in Rev. Haggard's three-days-to-100%-heterosexuality cure. Clearly it worked for Rev. Haggard, so there's hope for Senator Craig.
Posted by: dustbin | August 28, 2007 1:36 PM
So, do any of you self-righteous, spiteful and venomous Democrats see anything wrong with your reaction to this news regarding Senator Craig?
How exactly are you rising above this?
As a Republican, I don't claim to be any less sinful than anyone else. But I do acknowledge that a sin is a sin. And Senator Craig's alleged homosexual behavior is no different than the behavior of an idolater, a thief or a murderer.
However, there exists an enormous difference between the two political parties' philosophies on personal responsibility. Republicans acknowledge that all individuals fall short and make bad choices and decisions and then they express regret, remorse and repentance. In contrast, Democrats deny any wrong-doing, cast blame, attempt to redefine moral standards and never apologize.
You hypocrites! Consider removing the plank from your own eye before you point out the speck in your brother's!
Posted by: paul | August 28, 2007 1:37 PM
He also lied about his behavior to a police officer, saying he was picking up a piece of paper, not running his hand along the john wall. The officer refuted this, possibly making a case for obstruction/false statement.
Posted by: Potato Flake | August 28, 2007 1:42 PM
WHAT A FRAUD! LOOK AT HIS EYES..HE IS MUCH MORE DEVIOUS THAN WE MAY EVER KNOW...I BET IF YOU CHECKED THE HISTORY ON HIS COMPUTER YOU WOULD COME UP WITH SOME FREAKY DEAKY STUFF! HE SHOULD BE FIRED FOR BEING A HYPOCRITE!
Posted by: KC | August 28, 2007 1:56 PM
Dear Paul:
I realize that when Republicans embarrass you, you're desperate to say the Dems are worse. Part of that is calling them hypocrites. This is how Rush Limbaugh can ridicule Barney Frank or Bill Clinton even when he gets divorced three times and is caught with a bottle of someone else's Viagra when he's getting off the plane in Jamaica.
However, the problem with Craig isn't that he's gay! That might be the only good part about him. The problem is that he's thrown other gay people under the bus for political reasons. I realize such distinctions are lost on people as stupid as you, but I offer it on the off chance that you'll understand.
Posted by: The Wide Stance | August 28, 2007 2:03 PM
Remember Bill Clinton and the cigar trick under the desk in the oval ofice?
Stop being hypocrites. It looks foolish.
Posted by: TLM | August 28, 2007 01:44 AM
Dude, don't you know what researchers have proven? The main difference between Republicans and Democrats is that when Democrats cheat on their wives, they do it with women.
Curiosity killed the conservative. Once again.
Posted by: Alaska Curmudgeon | August 28, 2007 2:33 PM
Here is the officers report. Read it for yourself. He plead guilty because he was guilty. No doubt about it.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0828071craig1.html
Posted by: coolhip33 | August 28, 2007 2:41 PM
Larry Craig and Jim McGreevey should get together. Craig likes airport restrooms. McGreevey likes rest stops on the NJ Turnpike.
Talk about bipartisan cooperation.
Posted by: johnny | August 28, 2007 2:50 PM
Who's the sodomite now???????
Posted by: Kush | August 28, 2007 3:07 PM
I delight in seeing another story of a lying hypocrite politician self-destructing in yet another sordid tale of stupidity...I don't care if he's Democrat, Republican etc...the arrogance of throwing down his U.S. Senate card in a feeble attempt to escape his situation makes me vomit...I do feel sorry for his family and staffers...it's unfair that they have been lied to and blind-sided by this idiot...but I look forward to seeing him resign in public humiliation
Posted by: JayMan | August 28, 2007 3:12 PM
At least Clinton was with a female. These hypocrites deserve this. Christianistas keep praying that corruption gets exposed, it's working; in your own Gay, er, Grand Old Party, but it's working.
Posted by: Schadenfreude | August 28, 2007 3:24 PM
For Linda Jensen and everyone else: FYI Larry Craig is NOT a MORMON!!!
Check out Sen. Craig's bio: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=206&lvl=C&congress=1092
And PLEASE stop your religious bashing...Weren't you ever taught that people are people, no matter to whatever religious faiths they adhere? In other words, people are human beings and subject to all kinds of temptation, immoral, illegal and otherwise. A person's religion does not exempt them, exalt them or excuse them.
In this era of "TOLERANCE" let's leave religion out of it.
Posted by: kj | August 28, 2007 3:24 PM
Sorry, KJ, but you can't have it both ways.
Republicans have made religion the centerpiece of their political agenda and have all but invoked the wrath of God down upon anyone who disagrees with them. Skeptics like me always knew that conservative claims of moral and spiritual superiority were pure hogwash. But lesser minds than mine have fallen for the their ruse for years.
Religion never belonged in our politics, as any honest historian of our Constitution well knows. However, since Republicans have made religious piety the litmus test of their politics, and have continued to maintain the lie that this is a Christian nation, they can't cry foul when their own dismal failure to live up to the standards which they demand of everyone else is outed, so to speak, and the rest of just laugh.
Don't cry to me when the devil calls, asking that you pay his due. You people made your Faustian bargain long ago.
Posted by: Alaska Curmudgeon | August 28, 2007 4:03 PM
Did I miss something here? Since when is it a crime to move your feet around on the floor of men's room? He is an old man who needs a wide stance to do his business. It is irresponsible to jump from that to slandering him as a homosex. Disorderly conduct has to disturb the order and this does not qualify. It is another left wing smear campaign and most people here are being duped.
Posted by: Reggie | August 28, 2007 4:19 PM
Paul said, "Republicans acknowledge that all individuals fall short and make bad choices and decisions and then they express regret, remorse and repentance." No Paul, it isn't the Republicans that like to use that excuse/rationalization for everything...it is the Bible-thumping, down-your-throat Christians. And therein lies the problem: too many people have confused the Republican party as an extension of the Christian Crusaders.
Posted by: Daddy-O | August 28, 2007 4:20 PM
Amazingly, the ignorance in Idaho will continue and those that make up the people in that cultural wasteland will once again vote for him come next year.
Posted by: Brian B. | August 28, 2007 4:49 PM
So why are you disappointed in the "liberal" newsmedia Idahoian?
You said:
>I'm sorely disappointed in the liberal media >for waiting until the end of August to report this >story. Where IS the liberal media when you need >them?
>Posted by: idahoan | August 28, 2007 01:19 AM
Good gracious. What are you? A broken record, right wing lunatic?
Are you suggesting that reporting this story earlier would make it less / more news worthy?
Sounds to me like you are one of those Bush / Chaney right wing idiots that blames the news media for anything you disagree with.
You are a pathetic right wing nut case...
Posted by: OldGold | August 28, 2007 4:51 PM
Maybe now the real Christians in America will realize what a scam the Rove Republicans have pulled on them in the last few elections.
Yet another Gay Christian Republican. Only in America.
Posted by: Elated | August 28, 2007 4:59 PM
Larry...Dude...Should have spent the commuting time between flights at the Mall of America where you'd have found plenty of room to engage in your wide stance Idaho two stepping instead of the cramped quarters at the airport.
You're right, Senator Craig is not a Mormon, just a moron.
Posted by: EdwardRMurrow | August 28, 2007 5:07 PM
Senator Gloryhole... White Courtesy Phone... Paging Senator Gloryhole... White Courtesy Phone.
Oh man! Stick the fork in the guy - he's WELL done!
Posted by: DC-ite | August 28, 2007 5:18 PM
To Martha from UT and others who are crying foul about those assuming guilt before due process. Martha, no one is denying the Senator due process. They are merely expressing an opinion on his guilt or innocence. That is a right we each have. What we are not allowed to do is particpate in the Judicial process with a presumption of guilt. But we are all well within or free speech rights to call this one as we see it. I am a republican and I think he's completely guilty. Am I being judgemental? Not exactly. Not in the sense the Bible warns of. The judgement we must avoid is presuming someones eternal reward or their standing before God. For instance, if we were to say "he's going to he11" then perhaps we'd be guilty of such un-Christian judgements. But to simply say "it appears to me this guy got caught in a lewd act" I am not being judgemental.
And to those who think Craig is Mormon, you are wrong. You can always tell when someone isn't Mormon because the press would have put it right in the headline (same goes for Muslims and Evangelical Christians). If he was Catholic it would be in the article. Apparently he's Methodist (check out his Congressional profile on-line) so no mention of that at all. I'm not complaining. Just pointing out what the standards are.
Posted by: daveescaped | August 28, 2007 5:25 PM
Wait. A wide stance? When setting on the john? Not to be too graphic here, but just how wide could one's stance be with pants around the ankles? His story just doesn't wash. No wonder he plead guilty.
Posted by: Regor | August 28, 2007 5:29 PM
MK he is worse than a hypocrite as he is a liar and a hypocrite. He lied to the people of Idaho when he failed to disclose the fact that he was gay. He would have never been elected in Idaho had the people had known
Posted by: Cass | August 28, 2007 5:30 PM
Thois is no surprise. 3 out of 4 republicans like Dick...Cheney
Posted by: Babs | August 28, 2007 5:44 PM
I would like to show a parallel between Senator Craig and Michael Vick.
In my opinion people are focusing on issues that are secondary to more intense issues. For instance in the case of Michael Vick research indicates such people don't just begin aberrant behavior (mutilating and killing dogs) midlife. I would think Mr. Vick quite possibly has a long history of similar or like behavior, which may not necessarily be dog fighting, but in some way inflicting pain for amusement. Likewise, Senator Craig most likely did not wait until his 60s to elicit same sex. He may have a long history of either fantasizing about having same sex relationships or has participated in homosexual behavior. Now here is where the aspects of the two gentlemen mentioned momentarily separate. Although both fellows engaged in unlawful activities, one involved overt brutality while the other engaged in illegally eliciting sex an activity that involves subjective negative mores of society and is compounded in society's mind that it was same sex relationships. Homosexuality could be considered out of the norm as approximately 90% of individuals are heterosexual.
A tenant of behavior is " if it is not working, stop doing it", e.g. if tossing a person to the wolves doesn't work, create a new hypothesis to rectify the implied problem. To be more specific, currently there have been quite a few men found to be having same sex. Why harangue them? Has "frying" them in the news led to fewer incidences of men having sex with men. Why is it an issue other than the public thrives on placing people in a pecking order and then whipping them senseless? This approach also places well-intentioned, good citizen homosexuals in a mind-frame of being a pox on society. Try a different approach. Our system of checks and balances might encourage people that deal in "out of the norm- behavior" to spend needed time dealing with investigation of the issue hopefully leading to enlightenment and then and only then become a spokesperson to young, school-age children in dealing with suppressed anger, sexuality and the like.
Possibly having Mr. Vick not do not prison time but classroom time. And as far as Senator Craig is concerned having same sex is not the paramount of problems in this country. In fact many would postulate that having same sex is not a problem at all. But where one chooses to have sex seems to be of great importance. Therefore, let's teach children that there are appropriate places to have sex with males or females that are mutual and consenting adult. Also young people should be taught alternate ways to channel behavior when one's sexual hormones are going crazy. Possibly Senator Craig would appreciate the opportunity to come out of the closet and help draft legislation to promote education reform that addresses the topic of a healthy sexual person, heterosexual or homosexual.
Young children should be afforded the opportunity to grow in a country where public officials are honored and not torn apart and picked to death during family conversations.
It is well documented in the journals that severe behavior can be diagnosed as early as three years of age and left unchecked the behavior cannot be ameliorated after age eight. Let's talk about core issues and a proactive approach rather than reactive and a punitive approach.
Posted by: Jim Lyons | August 28, 2007 5:54 PM
Interesting choice of words "I am not gay" does not equal "I do not have sex with men"
Posted by: | August 28, 2007 6:39 PM
OK, I'm starting to believe Larry isn't gay. I'm gay, and as a teen growing up in the midwest, there were basically two places we cruised for sex. The park and the mens' room. As someone who has sufficient experience in restroom cruising, I must say Larry had all the right moves. The only one he left out was the note written on toilet paper. We all know the toe tapping, the hand movements and the peering through the crack. So, my take is ... Larry is Str8, but just likes sex with men.
Posted by: Egbert | August 28, 2007 6:45 PM
I am appalled at the unholy treatment of poor, Senator Larry Craig of Idaho. How dare we assume someone is guilty just because he was arrested, failed to coerce the arresting officer and pled guilty! In this country, you are innocent until proven you are a closeted, homophobic hypocrite who believes in family values (whatever that means).
In defense of the police officer who arrested Senator Craig: If Senator Craig is "innocent" (not legally mind you because he pled guilty), then the police officer is being called either a liar or incompetent. I would like someone to ask the police officer what he observed about the behavior he witnessed that fateful day in the Twin Cities Airport and took out of context, misinterpreted, or misconstrued? Otherwise, the "Honorable" Mr. Craig would appear to be calling the officer a liar by saying that he denies doing anything 'improper'. Also, he is calling himself a liar because he admitted guilt even he now admits that his admission of guilt was a lie. Doesn't even false self-incrimination count as perjury? In his lame defense of his initial statement of guilt, he now says that he just wanted the whole thing to "go away" and that's why he didn't consult his friends, attorney, his poor wife, her children and ask their advice about whether to plead guilty of trying to play footsie with a man in the restroom.
Oh, by the way, it's not a gay thing, it's just that if he were not gay, he would have to be in drag to do this in the ladies room...oh, but if he were in drag to trick a woman into having sex in the ladies room, then that means...oh god, my head is going to explode.
All lampoon aside, what kind of credibility does the senator now have, I ask ya? How many lies does it take to screw an undercover police officer?
Posted by: Reverend Sarah Huttinger, DD | August 28, 2007 7:09 PM
Ole Larry was just trying to get a load out...make that 2 loads...;-)
Posted by: Stall Monitor | August 28, 2007 7:21 PM
I, too am a wide-stance toilet user and understand the difficulties that come with this approach to voiding. I can't count the times that my foot has careened into another stall, creating an awkward moment where my toileting neighbour assumes that I am looking for an encounter. Pray for wide-stance toileters everywhere.
Posted by: washroom user | August 28, 2007 8:08 PM
As a lifelong Republican who is already enraged by the current crew, I cannot help but think that if the Democratic Party cannot achieve a lasting majority next year, then they truly are as inept as the GOP claims. And in response to an earlier post, I do not know of a lower life form than a hypocrite. Why would anyone want to know one, let alone vote for him?
Posted by: OldUncleTom | August 28, 2007 10:28 PM
One need not be gay to play footsie in the bathroom. Craig likely isn't gay, he's just playful and has an odd way of showing it. He used poor judgment, so what. Everyone makes mistakes. Although it is a bit weird having a strange foot playing with yours in the bathroom stall. No harm done, give the guy a break already.
Posted by: Bob | August 29, 2007 2:10 AM
When are Democrats going to wake up and realize the people they support are going to repeat the economic disaster of the late 70s? But wait, the Dems are Green...as they drive to the tree-hug meeting in their SUV's...but wait, we have to punish the rich for being successful...oh, yeah, let's destroy profit motive and watch the economy unwind. Read up on your Ayn Rand, then vote for the biggest tax hike proponents and watch what happens. Last, let's pull out of Iraq right away, let the Iranians take over and then watch what Israel does. Come on, Hillary's already been president for 8 years. I say: Give Bill a chance.
Posted by: VoteMyWallet | August 29, 2007 6:37 AM
As a former resident of the Famous Potato state, I can say with gusto, hurray! Finally, the republican strangle hold on the state may actually decrease now...And Larry, the cloud is not over Idaho, its you, you dork!
Posted by: karen doyle | August 29, 2007 7:55 AM
"As one of the few Republicans on this board, I'd like to remind you all that Sen. Craig is innocent until proven guilty. He has not been caught doing anything gay and probably was just using the restroom. I dont think putting your foot near the other stall makes you a homosexual. Please be fair. Let me remind you again we are in America, the land of rights, due proces and laws. Judge not lest ye be judged.
God Bless You All
Posted by: Martha Ridell, UT | August 28, 2007 09:30 AM"
Martha: May we remind you that "Larry" PLED GUILTY, to a lesser charge - he WAS ARRESTED for "Lewd Conduct."
Posted by: JoJo in I-da-ho | August 29, 2007 10:28 AM
Reggie:
Apparently YOU *DID* "miss something here"!
Quite a LOT, actually!
"Did I miss something here? Since when is it a crime to move your feet around on the floor of men's room? He is an old man who needs a wide stance to do his business. It is irresponsible to jump from that to slandering him as a homosex. Disorderly conduct has to disturb the order and this does not qualify. It is another left wing smear campaign and most people here are being duped.
Posted by: Reggie | August 28, 2007 04:19 PM"
Our "glorious" Senior Senator was *NOT* accused of, nor arrested for, "being GAY"!
He was *NOT* arrested for "disorderly conduct"!
He *WAS* arrested for "LEWD CONDUCT", and made a "plea bargain", and PLED GUILTY, without counsel, to the LESSER CHARGE of "disorderly conduct", "hoping to expedite matters and make it all go away"!
Besides, just exactly how wide a "stance" can you, or "an old man", get, with your pants down around your ankles?
Think about it!
What a LAME EXCUSE!
The arresting officer also stated in his arrest report that Larry "exited the stall without flushing" (after "doing his business") - go figure!
LET'S FLUSH *ALL* OF THESE LYING "FAMILY VALUES" REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITES!
We did *NOT* say that Larry is "GAY"!
We *ARE* saying that Larry is a "LYING PERVERTED REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITE"!
Republicans most certainly *ARE* giving gay people a bad name!
Wave "Bye-Bye", Larry!
Don't let the stall door hit you in the azz, on your way out!
See ya! - Wouldn't wanna BE ya!
Posted by: JoJo in I-da-ho | August 29, 2007 11:35 AM
Wacky Gay Men.
Senator Craig, a loyal republican, fights the good fight, leads the good life, and some mean policeman entraps him just for having a wide stance in a Bathroom stall. It cannot be easy being that well endowed. After all, he was in the airport for a "LAY" over and they were all out of Conservative Christian periodicals in the magazine shop to keep him occupied. What is a guy to do to pass the time?
When he goes to the bathroom, so many people must misunderstand his wide stance and the lack of toilet paper in his stall that makes him reach up from under for more paper in the next stall. (.....In a different report last night, the policeman added that the Senator looked at him through the crack in the stall door for 5 minutes before entering the closest stall and talking his "wide stance" sitting on the toilet and starting his tap dance). The poor man just wanted to make sure the stall was empty and appropriately licked clean.
On a personal level, I feel for the man trying to lead his life, do what he feels is right and keep up the family and his career. BUT, he has taken a national stance by becoming a politician (A choice he made) that puts him on center stage with the public and a type of national icon as a Senator. He appears as a total hypocrite and a cheap, tawdry one. Couldn't he just get a call boy at his hotel like most of the other gay-married Republicans do here in DC?
Posted by: RayRay in DC | August 29, 2007 11:43 AM
Okay, my 2 cents worth. This whole segment has devolved to silly arguements. We would like to say that incidents like Craig and Clinton are clear pronouncements of the politcal viewpoints of their party. That is ridiculous. I am a Republican, and I have SEN Kennedy speak in person on more than one occasion. He is dedicated, enthusiastic patriot. I disagree with so many of his positions, I can't even count them. SEN Craig has admitted to a crime, tried to misuse his political office, and has lied to his consitutents, his staff, and his family. He does not deserve to carry the title of Senator. His actions cannot be construed as a condemnation of a party. The latest episodes are just his chickens coming home to roost.
I think SEN Craig pled guilty to a crime (I don't really care to hear a litany of excuses from him or on his behalf). His actions are contrary to his stated political positions. He may have misused his office. WE ought to get rid of him. THe good people of Idaho and the rest of us deserve better.
Posted by: gtb | August 29, 2007 12:24 PM
"Wide stance".....what a joke. Don't forget he stared through the crack of the officer's door for several minutes. He saw a man sitting there (doing nothing?). When the stall on the left opened up, he went int there, probably thought his ship had come in.
Like many others: it's not the lewd behavior. That's human. It's the hypocricy. "Do as I say, not as I do." I wouldn't dignify him as being gay.
Posted by: coprogirl | August 29, 2007 12:26 PM
I seriously doubt that Craig is Gay. He was on the "downlo" and nothinng more. Next time Craig, remember to TAP TOE SHOW HARD! NASTY NASTY NASTY NASTY!
Posted by: Cholo | August 29, 2007 1:37 PM
Anonymous toilet sex is not a family value.
Posted by: Mark Davis | August 29, 2007 1:46 PM
to coprogirl, I fully agree. The part that bothers me is Craig has been to anti-gay, yet gets caught doing something like this. I just read about this on globalgrind.com and your thoughts were mine exactly after reading it for the first time.
Posted by: HipHopHustler | August 29, 2007 2:51 PM
The comments have given me a lot of laughs. As a former restroom cleaning person I know all about the toe tapping, messages left on walls. It's a free for all in the stalls. Somebody with an artist skill drew a naked woman on the inside door of the handicap door! I retired! ha ha
Posted by: niagara | August 29, 2007 3:55 PM
wow,another of the family values party...aren't they something!They say family values and I just have to laugh...I mean really,really hard!Well,if their lips are moving,their lying.
Posted by: scott britney | August 29, 2007 4:09 PM
This is an outrage!! Haven't any of you ever run out of t.p? Why is everyone calling the senator guilty? This is supposed to be the most freest country in all of Europe and the united States of America? Innocent until proven guilty! It's one of the amendments, people!
Posted by: Vonda L. Montross | August 29, 2007 6:02 PM
OK so why didn't Ted Kennedy resign when he pled guilty to a felony for Chappaquiddick?
And why didn't Barney Frank resign when he got caught with a male prostitute in this basement?
You guys that think Craig should resign don't make any sense.
Posted by: Amanda Sanders | August 29, 2007 8:24 PM
The focus should not be on whether the Senator is gay or not. The issue is; should our married elected leaders make sexual advances (homosexual or heterosexual) toward the citizens of America?
Posted by: Werfa | August 29, 2007 10:06 PM
another republican sex deviant. They give gays a bad name. Can you say glory hole? I knew you could.
Posted by: keith | August 30, 2007 12:53 AM
Amanda,
You are an idiot, thank you for making yourself known so that we can avoid you. 2 wrong senators dont make a right one.
Posted by: Keith | August 30, 2007 12:59 AM
His "wide stance" claim doesn't stand up:
1.) Undercover agent was seated.
2.) Stall on the right of agent was being used by someone else.
A) Therefore, Craig was in the stall to the left of undercover agent.
3.) Craig tapped his right foot several times as a sign.
4.) Craig's right foot touches left foot of agent inside the agent's stall.
B) Therefore, Craig is SEATED while pushing his right foot under the stall door.
Posted by: ubu | August 30, 2007 4:38 AM
There is one simple lesson in all this, these self-appointed "guardians of human morality" by now should realize that trying to "force" people to think, speak and live in prescribed ways is against God's intention of free-will, and makes it all the more ludicrous when they themselves are unable to abide by the narrow-minded confines of their own moral codes. Instead, let us all honor our differences as exemplified by the countless varieties of living organisms co-existing on earth and most of all, even when we don't understand the choices or path of another, let us respect him as our equal sharing in the same life-force of the ultimate Creator. Love is the answer.
Posted by: nerakami | August 30, 2007 11:19 AM
I love it. I read today from his office personal what a GREAT job he did for the public in political life. NOT, what a sick thing he was doing in a PUBLIC RESTROOM !!!! QUIT NOW.....
Posted by: SKYKING | August 30, 2007 12:09 PM
I've been saying it all along - these flag waving, military loving (how they swoon for men in uniform!) gay-hating Repubs are all closet queens. Why do you think they hate gays so much??
How many of these 'upstanding, red-blooded' Republicans are still closeted out there? My guess it goes all the way to the top. They hated Clinton and called him a degenerate because he was a straight man with a mistress. Larry Craig apparently called Clinton 'a bad boy - a naughty boy'. We should have all known right then.
It's gotten to the point that I assume anyone pointing the finger of accusation and judgement, is most likely doing the same thing. It's a clear 'tell', as they say in poker.
Posted by: Miro R | August 30, 2007 2:44 PM
I guess the 'liberal media' is smearing Craig, just like Haggard, Foley, et al.
Sorry GOPers, stop blaming others for your own hypocrisy. These stories don't need to be played up - they speak for themselves.
At least 'liberals' believe in accepting people for who they are. Haggard should have accepted himself as God made him. And the same can be said of Craig.
The real scumbags always seem to be the ones who claim to be clean and holier-than-thou. Frankly, I'm loving this. Eventually the smoke and mirrors crumble, and everything becomes transparent.
Posted by: Jay Krieg | August 30, 2007 3:33 PM
Let me tell you something; this is crazy. This is supposed to be a democracy and he hasn't even been to trial and you all have him convincted and sentenced. How do you know the man wasn't just having himself a good trip to the john?
Posted by: Vance Velance | August 30, 2007 3:55 PM
Sure, he was having a good trip to the john...only it wasn't good enough, he got busted before he got to bust the nut.
Next time Larry, be a real 'John'. Mr. Evangelical Haggard probably has some phone numbers for you...but ask them first if they're a cop...undercovers aren't allowed to deny it
Live and learn! It's not easy being sleazy
Posted by: JoJo | August 30, 2007 4:28 PM
"What do you hate? By this you are truly known."
Posted by: Tom H | August 30, 2007 4:39 PM
Why was he in an airport bathroom? Did he have a flight booked? Or did he pay for short term parking just to have a poo? Or was it more sinister? If he did not have a flight booked then I can see only one reason why he would be there.
Posted by: Shaun | August 30, 2007 11:09 PM
I read all the comments before posting. I won't waste my time calling Craig a hypocrite. My question is, How many times do parents send their kids to the men's bathroom, especially mothers, alone? I am disgusted and appalled by what this man purportedly used a public restroom for. For goodness sake, he is a grown man. If he wants to be with men, be with them. Just don't do it in public restrooms.
I am a good Christian, meaning, I love Christ. You do not have to persecute others to be a good Christian. The church wants to turn the world into the church while the church goes to hell. Charity begins at home.
Let's face it, his marriage is probably a marriage of convenience. This womanw as a divorcee with three children. Craig was a rich rancher with a bright political future. Folks, he made a mockery of what Christ considers marriage. Christ likens marriage to his relationship with the church.
Many are unable or unwilling to acknowledge that he admitted to wrongdoing. Whatever his reasons were, he admitted to wrongdoing. Don't tell us to wait until all the facts are in. All the facts are in, and Craig admitted to it.
He needs to go. I don't care what the Democrats are doing or even other Republicans for the moment. We are talking about Craig here. He needs to leave the political scene and do whatever he wants to with his life. Maybe for the first time in years he can be free to be who is really is.
Posted by: O.H. | August 31, 2007 8:14 AM
Christ didn't hate gays, I can tell you that much. If Christ were a politician, I doubt he would have maintained (as Craig did) that gay bashers are not committing a hate crime - in essence, saying it's okay to beat up or oppress gay people.
According to the school of thought Craig comes from, his marriage is legit and sanctioned by God. After all, his is a marriage between a man and a woman, right? That's all it takes to make it a 'real' marriage. Whereas gay people who truly love each other - their relationship is less valid than Craig's!
Time for Craig to go back to Brokeback ranch, with all the other Midnight Cowboys. As the previous post said, maybe now he can live openly and stop pretending. Don't bet on it though... He'll probably come out later with a statement like Haggard, saying he's been 'cured' of homosexuality.
People, homosexuality is not a disease or a deviation. Animals in the wild engage in homosexual behavior - this has been observed and documented. What that means is that homosexuality is natural and created by God (if you believe in God) - and I'm saying this as a straight man. It's a shame that men like Craig are forced to hide their natural inclinations, because they've been taught that it's unnatural and evil.
Posted by: S Dem | August 31, 2007 10:49 AM
I'm a supporter of the senator. I say he should be given a fair trial no different than say OJ simpson or that other guy. Pickin up dirty toilet paper is unsanitary but not a crime. That officer was cruising for trouble. I think it will all come out in trial and i think that it should be televised too.
Posted by: Bryan Younkers | August 31, 2007 4:29 PM
When you stick your foot in or near the
toilet next to you....something is rotten
in "Denmark". Craig should resign, NOW !!
Posted by: JC | August 31, 2007 6:21 PM
they better put this guy on suicide watch. mark my words!
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2007 12:50 PM
I don't think so, MM. Mark MY words, he'll be back. When it is proven that the senator is a large man who uses a lot of toilet space people will start to regret their witch hunt. I wouldn't be suprised to see him clear his name on Oprah. Don't be suprised either if he ends up being your next president in 2008.
Posted by: Borden Havreauz | September 1, 2007 2:16 PM
BH, you have got to be kidding.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2007 4:20 PM
Now that Senator Craig has resigned, maybe he can come out of the closet!
He has been served a taste of his own medicine and it doesn't taste good... discrimination against gays in the USA. But then again, most gays don't play footsie in a bathroom. Mostly closeted married guys play that game while they bash honest gays.
The only one I feel sorry for is his wife. Maybe she should join PFFLAG. I am sure they would be compasionate. Something the ultra consevative holier than thou Republicans can't do.
Posted by: Dick in VA | September 1, 2007 8:44 PM
Larry Craig is not gay!
Barry Bonds did not use steroids!
O.J. is not guilty!
Rush Limbaugh is not a drug addict!
G.W. is not a rube!
and I am not gullible!
Posted by: BW | September 1, 2007 10:37 PM
"I am not Gay, I have never been gay. Well maybe once or twice."
Posted by: Allen | September 2, 2007 11:50 AM
Craig's behavior after the incident may have been stupid and ill-advised, but it does strike me a little strange that someone would be arrested on such slim evidence. I never thought footsies was a criminal act, especially when the intent was not overtly stated. And if his intent was to solicit sex, what's the legal problem ? Can't two adults decide to have sex and it not be against the law? Women are asked by men to have sex all the time. Is the act of inquiring to have sex against the law ? If that is the case, I think most of us are guilty of this crime.
What is next ? Attractive women at public places that will arrest you when you hit on them? You could get arrested for touching shoes or heaven forbid you verbalize your intent....Maybe if you open the door for someone, it could be a problem because it is a prelude to soliciting sex ? Something is wrong here. As long as minors are not involved people have a right to choose their sexual partners. In my book its not a crime where you discuss those arrangements.
Posted by: AAH | September 3, 2007 3:25 PM
Craig's behavior after the incident may have been stupid and ill-advised, but it does strike me a little strange that someone would be arrested on such slim evidence. I never thought footsies was a criminal act, especially when the intent was not overtly stated. And if his intent was to solicit sex, what's the legal problem ? Can't two adults decide to have sex and it not be against the law? Women are asked by men to have sex all the time. Is the act of inquiring to have sex against the law ? If that is the case, I think most of us are guilty of this crime.
What is next ? Attractive women at public places that will arrest you when you hit on them? You could get arrested for touching shoes or heaven forbid you verbalize your intent....Maybe if you open the door for someone, it could be a problem because it is a prelude to soliciting sex ? Something is wrong here. As long as minors are not involved people have a right to choose their sexual partners. In my book its not a crime where you discuss those arrangements.
Posted by: AAH | September 3, 2007 5:17 PM
I think perhaps the officer was reasonably well-versed and experienced in knowing how 'bathroom encounters' are solicited. I'm not sure about the general consensus, but I would prefer my child or myself have to use a toilet stall where bodily fluids have recently been exchanged. I don't think the sting was put in place because 'consenting adults' have been arranging to meet in hotel rooms while doing their toilet business
Consenting adults are free to their things in private places. If the senator wasn't looking for love in all the wrong places, he oughtn't have offered a guilty pleas when given the choice.
If the glove does not fit, you must acquit.
Posted by: Bueler Meuller | September 3, 2007 9:15 PM
Has no one seen the real political play here? Good old Larry should change his affiliation to "independent". He has lost all of his Republican buddies anyway. He can then shoot his mouth off about how he has seen the errors of his ways and use it to pit the Dems and Repubs for his swing vote. Wouldn't it be great to see this dirtball neuter Lieberman?
Posted by: GMontag | September 5, 2007 9:13 AM
Um dude, you cant neuter someone twice.
Posted by: Ralfy | September 5, 2007 9:31 AM
OK for those really think craig was just using alot of toilet space or picking up toilet paper, the next time you are in a stall, you try to reach through to even get close the someone in the next stall, not likely an accident. it is not the fact that he is gay but his hypocrisy that will ultimately be his undoing. KARMA at work here!
Posted by: MM | September 5, 2007 4:39 PM
Well, MM, it seems that Larry may not be resigning after all.... I think this is just the start of his momentum. There is probably a grass-roots movement under way right now. Get ready to start using the term 'Mr. President' as relates to Senator Craig.
Posted by: BH | September 6, 2007 7:20 AM
After reading through the blog I can't help but say that ALL politicians are hypocrites. It is not a Liberal or Conservative issue.
Wake up America our political system is in shambles, full of corruption and lewd behavior. I have seen it on both sides Democratic and Republican. Corruption and Hypocracy knows no political party bounds.
What I am sick of is this rediculous finger pointing between parties and the lack of focus on what is going to make the United States of America strong again.
Politics was never meant to be a career! When our founding fathers established the government serving in a government role was an honor not a career.
I am not anti-government, I am anti-career politician. It is time for a change... Common people are getting fed up with the way the Congress and the Senate do not listen to them, but listen to the needs of special interest groups. If you don't believe me just look at the polls. Whatever happend to "By the people, for the People" Ask yourself "When have any politicians stood firm on grounds they were elected on?"
We have become a nation of "finger pointing sissy's". When are we going to demand our representatives to act on issues we feel are important, you know us the people who elected them into office.
STOP THE BI-PARDISON BICKERING and get some work done. I have to work for my paycheck why shouldn't they. Instead of spending time accusing each other of wrong doing maybe address the issues that threaten our nation.
We are losing sight on what is important in this country.
Posted by: CG | September 6, 2007 9:29 AM
BH, what political party do you think will pick him up? surely not the republicans...having already deserted him very early on? ...independent? they already have ron paul and a couple of other candidates running for the office. maybe the rainbow party? that one might work, actually.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2007 6:58 AM
Pretty obvious you're getting nervous about the idea, MM. When Larry has his day in court he will probably have the parties lined up to get behind him. Never count a prize fighter out until the final bell.
Posted by: BH | September 8, 2007 12:22 PM
BH, nervous...no just content. as i said karma at its best. larry will have his day in court but i bet it won't be the "parties" lined up behind him. laa de da
Posted by: MM | September 8, 2007 8:33 PM
Let me say this, MM. People didn't believe Jesus could get up and walk around either, and look how that turned out! People counted Michael Jackson out a few years ago, and he's back at the top of his game, ruling the pop world as the King. You won't be tee hee la dee da-ing about Larry when he's commander in chief.
Posted by: BH | September 9, 2007 12:11 PM
BH, oh my. are you comparing larry craig to jesus..? maybe michael jackson is the better analogy.
Posted by: MM | September 10, 2007 7:10 AM
Well, Jesus had his doubters and naysayers, too, didn't he? And if we would have given up when everyone said he couldnt do it he never would have turned water to wine either. Haven't you ever had your foot in someone else's toilet stall? Yet ye who live in glass houses cast the first stones.
Posted by: BH | September 10, 2007 7:17 AM
BH, i can honestly say i have never had my foot in someone else's toilet stall...have you? so on this point. ye who live in glass houses should be more careful ... i do pity this guy. it must be difficult. i just hope he can "come to jesus" and be truthful about his lifestyle. because, what is life if we cannot live it truthfully.
peace BH. what will be will be.
Posted by: MM | September 10, 2007 8:27 PM
There are euphemistic parallels to be drawn here. When one says various politicians are "in bed together," I'll no longer be sure whether it is meant literally or figuratively. A bed might also now be a euphemism for a toilet stall. These Republicans have made it all so confusing. It also brings to mind that the most conservative of these bed (or toilet)-sharing public figures are simply closet cases using their power to mask their own behaviors. Sen Larry Craig joins minister Ted Haggard in this category.
I predict the next scandal will involve Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) and Immigration Judge Francis L. Cramer. The Post reported that "Cramer, a former campaign treasurer for Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), was appointed as an immigration judge...The Government Accountability Office, a legislative watchdog, criticized the appointment, saying, 'Converting a Schedule C [political] appointee with less than 6 months of immigration law experience to an immigration judge position raises questions about the fairness of the conversion.'" Gregg has, at least until recently, voted in lock step with the far right on gay rights issues. Cramer, likewise, is now on record as a homophobe when deciding immigration cases. Hmm, keep checking the toilets...you'll find them eventually. They are definately "in bed" together, whatever that now means.
Posted by: The_Stall | September 11, 2007 11:08 PM
The Prez. of Iran said there are no Homosexuals in his Country... Upon hearing that, Sen. Craig volunterred to go to Iran on an Azz finding mission.
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JoJo in I-da-ho is a complete retard....
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Posted by: Greg | October 4, 2007 3:23 PM
Mo Dizzle! Looks like Larry is coming back swinging. The real fighters never give up working to prove their innocence! Hardly a coincidence that some people have been trying to set OJ Simpson up for a fall at the same time. Presidential running mates, anyone??? Two guys from different beginnings but an equally sincere love for truth, justice and the American way..... Craig/Simpson- has a nice ring to it. I see a grass-roots upset of epic proportions unseen since rocky took out that russian guy.
Posted by: BH | October 4, 2007 4:55 PM
BH, you crack me up!!!
Posted by: MM | October 4, 2007 5:52 PM
Shizzle that, MM... Be first in your neighborhood to get on the Larry OJ train.
Posted by: BH | October 4, 2007 9:00 PM
Hey RayRay in DC: So, there are no gay-married Democrats in DC??? I luv it!!!! It's idiots like you who give Liberals a bad name!!!
Posted by: Tokai | October 5, 2007 2:09 PM
Grant it, Senator Craig is not what you want as a role model for your kids. But let's face it, whether they're republicans, democrats, or even green party, most politicians are liars with dubious morals. Remember the old saying "power corrupts . . ." and all that? I suggest the liberals get down off their high horse and face the facts that democrats are no more righteous than republicans. Clinton wasn't the first to get caught with his pants down. Remember old JFK and his brother Teddy? Maybe the democrats are just better at not getting caught.
Posted by: Telling It Like It Is | October 8, 2007 11:46 PM
Larry has been inducted into his home state's hall of fame... Picture this as a presidential ticket: THE HALL OF FAMERS- two persecuted heroes, Larry and OJ rise from the ashes to unite a nation.
Posted by: BH | October 12, 2007 8:44 PM
telling it..i think most of us realize the repbs and dems are all in the same boat regarding bad decision making...lack of scruples.....clinton, craig...too many to mention. this blog is about craig's situation...and lord knows he deserves his own blog
Posted by: | October 13, 2007 5:45 PM
If the story doesn't make sense...it probably is not true. This man has more excuses than a teenager skipping school. He is embarrassed, but not because he is innocent. He is embarrassed, because he got caught! Any mother in America can see right through his story. And that is what it is folks, a story!!! Fabricated to hold onto what he has left.
Posted by: Dawn Boyer, Alaska | October 17, 2007 1:29 AM
I think this CNN mash-up video sums it all up. No less than the latest men's room encounter by Senator Larry Craig and OJ Simpson himself caught on airport security cameras. What news story could top this.
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The case is stalled. On to Denver and bigger things. the city that is mildly high.
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