Larry Craig: Pleading for Reconsideration
The Idaho Senator's Fate Could Be in Your Hands
As a Minnesota judge deliberates whether Sen. Larry Craig should be allowed to withdraw his guilty plea for disorderly conduct, I decided to look back on the hundreds of reader comments readers have posted about the story.
It is a mixed and colorful bag. But most seem to agree that Craig is not only a "hypocrite" and an "idiot," but he's also guilty. As idahoan pointed out: "Craig did plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct. Who the hell would plead guilty to disorderly conduct in the bathroom? Give me a break. Would YOU EVER in a MILLION years plead guilty to disorderly conduct in the bathroom for doing NOTHING?"
Certainly a valid point. But does it make him guilty? Craig claims "panic" over whether the allegations would be made public caused him to "accept a guilty plea without seeking legal advice." Say what you will about the lawmaker's understanding of the law, clearly he understands politics. Of course, his strategy backfired, and most people probably believed there were other things he was trying to keep quiet.
But back to the law: Does getting caught in a homosexual sting amount to disorderly conduct? Putting aside the setting, is what he did any different from what millions of people do every night at bars and clubs across the world?
The judge is expected to issue a decision early next week on whether Craig's guilty plea stands. If it is upheld, Craig says he'll resign. If he's allowed to vacate the plea, he says, he'll stay in office. So the clock is ticking. But as readers know, I'm an impatient man, so rather than wait that long, I thought I'd put the senator's fate in your hands.
Before you render your decision, go here for a quick recap of the facts -- then come back and vote!
Larry Craig: In or Out? You Decide
Note: This is an unscientific survey of washingtonpost.com readers.
By Emil Steiner | September 27, 2007; 11:50 AM ET | Category: OFF/beat Politics
Posted by: | September 27, 2007 12:15 PM
This closeted clown needs to face reality and get a boyfriend .His story is full of holes. Who reaches down to pick up toilet paper from the floor of a bathroom ? Thats the last thing you`d ever do. Yuck
Posted by: eSPO | September 27, 2007 12:48 PM
He didn't break any laws. Its free speech! You facistas! Flirting is not disorderly
Posted by: Durban | September 27, 2007 1:06 PM
He should remain in office right through the election season. He should even run for re-election. What better gift could the Democrats hope for than to have Larry Craig, in office, and having the new trial he's been demanding...
Posted by: James McGill | September 27, 2007 1:13 PM
I do not understand the obviousness of what happened. There was a reason the Police set up a sting. There was a reason he was caught. If I am in a bathroom and someone is making advances at me, I am not even going to bother finishing up, just get dressed and get the hell out of there. This is whole thing is so unbelievable, he had a history, he wanted to get caught. NOW HURRY UP AND RESIGN!
Posted by: i2imagine | September 27, 2007 1:15 PM
But does it make him guilty? Craig claims "panic" over whether the allegations would be made public caused him to "accept a guilty plea without seeking legal advice." Yes, son, you see that is what it means when you plead guilty. You are guilty. See you plead guilty. Is that something only lawyers understand? It just doesn't seem that complex. If it is, I'm going to lose you when we start talking about a state of panic that lasted for TWO (2) MONTHS.
Posted by: | September 27, 2007 1:54 PM
The Republicans are trying to get rid of him so Gov. "Butch" Beaver can appoint his other butt buddy to take over. GOP=Grand Ol' Perverts
Posted by: ID | September 27, 2007 1:55 PM
Closet case deserves everything he gets.
Posted by: | September 27, 2007 2:30 PM
I am from Idaho & this man is an embarrassment to our state. He is a liar, a hypocrite & a coward!
I only hope the good people of this state get busy and recall this IDIOT!
Posted by: Steven Bravo | September 27, 2007 2:47 PM
"I only hope the good people of this state get busy,"
Hey Senator Craig did right?
Posted by: | September 27, 2007 3:00 PM
Craig really is a weasel. There may be a little room for doubt in what he was doing in that men's room (very little), but it's absolutely clear that his actions since that moment have consisted of nothing but coverup and deception, along with blatant attempts to use his position to get treatment not afforded to ordinary citizens.
A normal course of behavior for someone whose actions really were "misconstrued," as Craig claims his were, would be to maintain his innocence, inform at least his wife of the situation, and obtain the advice of an attorney. Had Craig done all of these those things, or any of them, he might be deserving of sympathy. But someone who acted all along as if deception were his prime motivation, and then changed his story when it all came out anyway, deserves none.
Craig was not "panicked" into signing a guilty plea. He signed the plea six weeks after the incident, after more than one subsequent conversation with the authorities, and without ever seeking legal advice. It's clear that his only motivation was coverup. Whether he was merely trying to cover up an embarassing arrest, or whether it was some deeper secret he does not want to admit, possibly even to himself, is unknown. But his behavior has been far from the openness and honesty we would expect, and certainly the voters of Idaho should demand, in an elected official.
To that end, the most damning aspect of Craig's actions were his attempts, on more than one occasion, to stress to the authorities his position as a Senator and thereby to insinuate that he should be afforded special consideration. Anyone who acts as if he should get special set of rules not available to other citizens has no place in the Congress of the United States.
Posted by: Eric | September 27, 2007 3:03 PM
Larry Craig: a perfect example of the gift that keeps on giving. I believe (in the later edition) he's decided NOT to resign.
Posted by: VA_Lady2007 | September 27, 2007 3:30 PM
I wonder now if Craig regrets his vote on the hate-crimes bill. Lets face it for all the "white supremists" in his State theres a good chance hes gonna need it. I think he should consider permanently moving to DC cause you know these outstanding citizens will off this little "Nancey" if given the chance.
The repubs are like the gift that keeps on giving
Posted by: Ed Feeney | September 27, 2007 3:43 PM
Ive told you people before, Sen Craig is not gay. He's just bi-curious.
Posted by: Ed Feeney | September 27, 2007 3:46 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that Craig is gonna be the Grand Marshall at the next SF Gay Pride Parade.
Posted by: EdFeeney | September 27, 2007 3:50 PM
I hear he's going to build a giant log cabin next to capitol hill. Fill it with wonderful people and lots of closet space.
SOrry I'm not angry at craig any more, I feel sorry for him. But that's what great about America, you can always start over.
Wonder what he'll do?
Posted by: Anybody? | September 27, 2007 3:57 PM
Yes, his conduct was disorderly, but it had nothing to do with his position and he should be allowed to stay.
My gay friends who do go to "tearooms" all tell me when the prey doesn't respond, stop and try someone else.
If Craig had stopped when the foot didn't tap back, he wouldn't be in this fix.
He did disturb the peace. People complained about his action in the men's room
He got outted. He shouldn't resign for that.
He is a senator. He tried to use that office to escape the consequences.
That action was what most disturbed the Senate.
For that, Craig shouldn't resign. He should be kicked out of office.
If he does leave, it has nothing to do with right or wrong.
Craig is a Republican and a Republican governor will pick a Republican replacement.
If a Democrat was picking the replacement, we would hear a different story about why Craig had to stay.
Posted by: helenfortytwo | September 27, 2007 8:54 PM
what is the one thing that sux more than Craig? the NyMets
Posted by: | September 27, 2007 10:33 PM
Based on the text of Minnesota disorderly conduct
law (Section 609.72) I don't think Craig engaged
in disorderly conduct, regardless of what else he
might have done.
The definition in Minnesota (and this is
a quote from the statute at
,
requires that a person
(1) Engages in brawling or fighting; or
(2) Disturbs an assembly or meeting, not unlawful
in its character; or
(3) Engages in offensive, obscene, abusive,
boisterous, or noisy conduct or in offensive,
obscene, or abusive language tending reasonably
to arouse alarm, anger, or resentment in others.
There is an exception to excuse epileptic
siezures, which would not apply in Craig's case.
Posted by: Bill | September 28, 2007 2:07 AM
how about his conduct was not disorderly but he should be ejected for being a hypocritical douche- you know he voted against ENDA yesterday- becasue of course he is.not.gay.. whatever, selfhating closet case.
Posted by: nelbot | September 28, 2007 10:40 AM
A) What he did was not disorderly conduct.
B) It doesn't matter what he does in his personal life, his constituents are against gay marriage, so he MUST vote against gay marriage.
C) Democrats are just as hypocritical as Republicans.
Posted by: Tell Tale Truth | September 28, 2007 11:44 AM
If Craig was a Democrat and stained a girls dress in the government office portion of the White House this story would be a non-issue. He would be in a lot less trouble if he had driven off a bridge and drowned his girlfriend - if he was a Democrat that is.
Because what the Democrats do in their personal life doesn't count. That has to be the truth because the Democrats tell us it is and the press tells us it is, right?
Since he chose to be a Republican he should take the consequences of his actions.
Posted by: SoMD | September 28, 2007 11:58 AM
well, as many of the fine intellectuels pondering the immigration crisis continue to note -- illegal immigrants are here illegally and if they are here illegally then all else need not be considered, no extenuating circumstances, no "facts" however convenient they may be, no reasons or shades of the law or anything else: illegal is illegal, gulty, end of story.
Mr Craig is certainly guilty of something, so that ends the story right there. Being a right wing conservative, I am positive he would agree and is, no doubt, disgusted at the left wing liberals who have snuck onto his staff of legal advisors are are trying to weasel him out of his just desserts on some namby pamby technical loophole in the law.
Posted by: ogden utah | September 28, 2007 4:37 PM
@ Ogden, what is he guilty of?
Posted by: | September 28, 2007 5:33 PM
Excellent. Please hang around for the election Senator Craig. We want you to be the poster boy for Family Values.
Posted by: Cal | September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
It is fascinating to see the lengths some people will go to to deny that Craig did anything wrong. Doesnt it occur to you that the cop who arrested him has seen this kind of thing before and knows what solicitation looks like? Craig says he reached into the next stall to "pick up a piece of paper". How many times has ANYONE on this board reached into their neighbors stall for any reason?!?! Yeah I thought so.
Posted by: Alex | September 29, 2007 4:17 AM
You guys have it all wrong. Senator Craig was just participating in Wide Stance, the new Republican voter outreach.
Posted by: JT, Camden NJ | September 29, 2007 4:26 AM
As an Idaho resident, all else aside, I don't want my Senator to be someone who panics, can't make up his mind and flip flops...he has to go!
Posted by: yvette5884 | September 29, 2007 8:35 AM
Whether Senator Craig actions make him guilty of disoderly conduct and whether his conduct should have been illegal or not is hardly the point. Yet, your survey did not offer a fifth option. In our legal system, Senator Craig's plea agreement makes him guilty of Disorderly Conduct, regardless of what crime he was charged with or whether his actions should have been criminal. His Republican colleagues claim that giving accused terrorists access to the courts would bring our legal system to its knees. Yet, this long-serving legislator is wasting court time trying to appeal his own guilty plea. That should be the point.
Posted by: Jack Follansbee | September 29, 2007 10:19 AM
THere has to be some evidence, tapes, photos of him acting gay. How long till it comes out?
Posted by: Hellion | September 30, 2007 3:29 PM
He admitted he was guilty. That should be enought to tell you he is guilty. You cannot change the stripes on a zebra.
Posted by: Simpson | October 1, 2007 10:01 PM
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Posted by: | November 10, 2007 7:19 PM
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It doesn't really matter, he pleaded guilty so he is guilty. You can't get redo because things didn't play out the way you calculated.