Hello, Rudy, Well Hello, Rudy...

Jerry Kilgore welcomed Rudy Giuliani to Virginia today, and picked up close to a cool, half-million in the process.

America's Mayor, as Kilgore called him, spoke for about 25 minutes to a crowd of well-heeled Republicans at the Mariott Hotel in Norfolk.

(Food alert: The crowd munched on chicken stuffed with ham and crab, sliced vegetables, mashed potatoes, and cheesecake with rasberry drizzle.)

Giuliani lavished some of that famous New York warmth on Kilgore, predicting that he will be "a really, really great governor."

He also said the election in less than two weeks will be very important for the national Republican Party. "It's important to the state of Virginia, but it's really important to the Republican Party because he represents what we're all about."

Of course, Kilgore and Giuliani don't always agree. The former mayor supports abortion rights and gun control. In a 1999 interview, Giuliani said, "I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice." Kilgore proudly proclaims he is pro-life and pro-gun.

Asked about that difference in an interview before his speech, Giuliani played down the differences.

"We agree on the death penalty. It has to be done with care, but it's a necessary thing in the arsenal," he said. "There isn't a person in America where there isn't disagreement. I agree with Jerry on the principle philosophy of the Republican Party."

For his part, Kilgore took another swipe at Tim Kaine for breaking his word on the no-use agreement on debate footage.

"I won't need to take a poll to keep my word," he told the crowd of about 500. "I'll be a governor you can all trust."

By Michael Shear |  October 26, 2005; 1:22 PM ET  | Category:  Jerry Kilgore
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Who does Jerry Kilgore think he is?

WhaT GIVES HIM THE POWER to decide WHAT I OR ANY OTHER CITIZEN IN VIRGINIA is entitled to see concerning A PUBLIC DEBATE between two men who want to be Governor? WHAT TOTAL ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!

Isn't this supposed to be a Democracy?

AND IF KILGORE is INNOCENT OF EAVESDROPPING AND WIRE-TAP -- WHY WON'T HE RELEASE THE DEPOSITION HE GAVE?

IF HE IS SO INNOCENT, WHY DID THE REPUBLICANS PAY THE DEMOCRATS $1 MILLION to try to make the matter go away?

How can we ever TRUST A GOVERNOR WHO DOESN'T TRUST US WITH THE TRUTH?

GET REAL, JERRY. TELL THE TRUTH!
FREE THE DEPOSITION AND THE DEBATE TAPES, for crying' outloud....
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? RICHARD NIXON?

DIDN'T WE GO THROUGH THIS BEFORE, FOLKS?

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 26, 2005 04:37 PM

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US LIKE A LUNATIC WITH THE ALL CAPS? (See above.) TAKE A DEEP BREATHE.

Geez.

Posted by: RC | October 26, 2005 06:19 PM

Sorry. Don't take it personally, please. Geez.

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 26, 2005 06:27 PM

Before anyone accuses else me of YELLING, I want to say I am sorry, I did not realize CAPS MEANT that. sorry. geez.

But, I still mean everything I said.

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 26, 2005 06:36 PM

Before anyone else accuses....

Posted by: SM | October 26, 2005 06:37 PM

I like Soccer Mom's CAPS. She reminds me of OWEN MEANY in John Irving's "Prayer for Owen Meany," .... in more ways than just her WILD typography tonight.

CAPS On or off, Soccer Mom has it going on.

Posted by: Yo'Momma2 | October 26, 2005 07:28 PM

Well, she sure knows how to rant. She's hard to take seriously, though.

Posted by: Samuel Hagar | October 26, 2005 08:07 PM

WHO invited Kilgore to be in our annual Vienna Halloween Parade, tonight???? Is nothing sacred any more?

Stealth...

Posted by: Vienna, VA | October 26, 2005 08:23 PM

Somebody make the Kaine and Kilgore campaigns tone down the all-CAPS tv commercials. Over the top ...

Posted by: JamesRiverGOP | October 26, 2005 08:24 PM

I really wish Potts had a chance both canidates have sunk to partisan attacks and bumper sticker rhetoric without answering any tough questions. To both canidates how are you going to pay for everything you are promising and/or what programs are you going to cut. Hint waste is not specific enough

Posted by: Joe | October 26, 2005 09:53 PM

Seems that all the Virginia GOP folks are a bit tense tonight, worried no doubt, that those indictments that are imminent in D.C. may be contagious?

Let's see how serious you take those indictments, Mr. Hagar. And, let's see what may wend its way South ...

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 26, 2005 10:07 PM

Can someone explain to me wy Timothy Kaine is an advertiser at a website that currently has this post on the front page?

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2005/10/simple-sambo-wants-to-move-to-big.html

Posted by: Fred Dominic | October 27, 2005 12:07 AM

Mike, was the cheesecake as good as it sounds?

Posted by: Not Larry Sabato | October 27, 2005 12:58 AM

Kilgore is a coward, afraid to have his ultra-conservative incompetence exposed to the world. BTW, Jerry -- Giuliani ain't my mayor, and I'm sick of being told he's "America's Mayor." How can you have any respect for Giuliani's values, unless you actually think it's a good idea to try to throw your wife and kids out of their home and announce that you intend to divorce her at a press conference before you bother to tell her? Conservative family values, right.

Kilgore's even afraid to be seen with George Bush these days. GWB is toxic.

George Allen is right (for once). This race is about character. And Kilgore has none.

Posted by: Jayne | October 27, 2005 05:13 AM

If only Kaine had trotted out Adolf Hitler in his alleged debate ads, Kilgore would have applauded.

Posted by: | October 27, 2005 07:09 AM

For balance

Both Kilgore and Kaine have been bringing in ouside politicans and former politicans for weeks now. This makes sense because the race is going to be about which side can get more of their base to vote. The reason Potts could have been so important is that he would have forced both canidates to answer tough questions about how we are going to pay for this and/or what taxes will be raised or programs will be cut. Potts is a joke because he is hovering around 5% which allows both canidates to continue bumper sticker slogans while pandering to their base for votes instead of detailing specifics to any of their "policy"

Posted by: Joe | October 27, 2005 09:38 AM

Mr. Hagar? I am taking SoccerMom seriously. I wish you and other members of the Virginia GOP would. Your silence is eroding away at your Republican base. If you don't address concerns that are being raised about criminal activities involving the VA GOP, things just might get real hot right before election day.

Could someone please explain why Mr. Kilgore is snubbing President Bush?

And, will someone answer this very important question: If Kilgore did nothing wrong, if the Virginia GOP did nothing wrong, then why did they give the Virginia Democrats a million dollars?

Why is no one in the media demanding that Kilgore release that depositition?

Why did the Virginia GOP try to collect reimbursement from the insurance company they claimed they did not have for criminal activities that they voluntarily engaged in?

Posted by: Another Republican Voting for Kaine | October 27, 2005 10:13 AM

SM-

we gave him the power.
part of what you give up just to get the debate.
sucks, but apparently this is what's required to make sure cowards come out of their hole and fight - make sure no one sees.

whatever.
the more noise he (Kilgore) makes about it, the more people will realize that he's hiding it because his results (in the debates) were pathetic.

Posted by: William Edwards | October 27, 2005 10:14 AM

Another Republican Voting for Kaine, Kilgore requested that he not be invited to the Bush event because of Bush's low approval rate in Virginia. And I challenge anyone here to tell us a question that Kaine hasn't answered.

Posted by: Virginia Voter | October 27, 2005 06:48 PM

Fred, campaigns buy ad space without knowing what content will appear on the sites they advertise on. Personally I think if Kaine wanted to explore political support for breaking the agreement not to use debate footage in campaign commercials, that's within his right. I'm tired of debates being held on the condition that people can't see later what went on during the debate. Debates, other than elections themselves, are the closest thing we have to public accountability in our political system. I don't think candidates ought to be able to hide from their performance.

Posted by: Omar | October 27, 2005 06:58 PM

Well said Omar. A candidate should not be afraid to be seen by the voters.

Posted by: Virginia Voter | October 27, 2005 07:28 PM


Kaine has my vote for a variety of reasons, the most surprising (to me) being that he has championed the old-fashioned idea that citizens ought to be able to see the candidates for elective office stand side-by-side and debate the issues.

This situation is so un-American, so absurd to the basic idea of democracy, that I challenge any historian or journalist to come forward with a crazier saga concerning the lengths that a man who wants to be Governor of Virginia, a genuinely decent guy, has had to go to get the other guy who says he wants to be governor to stand up and be a REAL MAN ABOUT IT AND HAVE A DEBATE. There are women in elective office in this country, in this state, who have more brains, backbone and balls than Kilgore.

Kaine did not invite Jerry Kilgore to a dance. This is not supposed to be some "court and spark" event in which a woman will see the lengths a man will go just to be in "her presence."

No, folks. Kaine invited Kilgore to a fight, a fight to see who is the better man to govern Virginia for the next four years. This is not right. Kaine has been a stand-up do-right man and each time Kaine asked Kilgore to debate -- Man-to-Man -- and Kilgore has repeatedly acted like some kind a fraidy-cat quivering coward devising one nutty notion after another....[...a Debate in West Virginia between two of three guys running for Governor of VIRGINIA, duh..., a debate in northern Virginia that is NOT BROADCAST throughout the state and has attached "rules" concerning what can be broadcast and quoted from the debates and used by his opponents ... followed by a final debate that supposedly has an agreement that neither side can use footage and quotations from the debate].

I am so surprised that a guy who claims to be a "country-boy," keeps finding ways to hide, whine and wiggle away from just standing up and being a man about this.

Posted by: Not Wyatt Durrette | October 28, 2005 12:06 PM

Kaine just popped ahead by 2% in the Rasmussen poll. What did Kilgore do to lose 4% of his vote? Seems like a big swing to Kaine.

Posted by: Masse Tree | October 28, 2005 12:39 PM

This race for governor is pushing the envelope ... can anyone imagine what Lincoln or Douglas might have said were their opponent to attempt to pull the stunts that Kilgore has on Kaine?

Why are we all breathlessly awaiting whatever indictments will come? Bush knows what has happened. He has to know.
Why doesn't he step up and say so?

Perhaps he is suffers the same condition "Not Wyatt Durrette" identifies to be afflicting Kilgore: a lack of "brains, backbone and balls"?

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 28, 2005 12:45 PM

Wow. I love how Kaine is a liberal babykiller who loves gays and that's horrible... OH LOOK ITS GUILIANI THAT MAN IS A HERO!!!!!

Hypocritical, taken to an amazinglt absurd level.

Posted by: Bell | October 28, 2005 03:27 PM

Food alert?!

Food Alert?!

Shear, you shame yourself and your newspaper. Time for a POP quiz. Who said?:

"Follow the Money, baby. Follow the money."

And, why was it said?

Posted by: Yo'Momma2 | October 29, 2005 09:17 AM

I'm really getting pissed off at people like Yo'Momma2 who are personally attacking Mike Shear. Having a major reporter blogging and keeping us up to date is a huge step forward (I doubt the Post pays him more for doing this, either). So shut up.

Posted by: Not Larry Sabato | October 29, 2005 04:40 PM

Anyone read the Washington Post's latest Poll? Kaine has went from being 7% behind 45 days ago to 3% ahead. Oh but don't worry, Kilgore has something for this... Apparently the poll is biased eventhough only a month ago they were trouting the same organization's poll.... Can we say desperate?

Posted by: UVA2008 | October 30, 2005 08:47 AM

NLS ... I really want to understand why you think that my remarks concerning the manner in which Mike Shear is doing his job constitute a "personal attack."

Shear has a job to do. His job is not to befriend politicians or bloggers. I do not understand why you think that it is "a huge step forward" for him to blog along with us. So what?

I would be impressed if he (and other journalists) were to hit ALL the Republicans and Democrats in all three races with some hardball questions about how these campaigns are financed.

Is it too much to expect that members of the mainstream media read Waldo Jaquith's site and picked up on the massive amounts of money that have been contributed to the Virginia GOP for which McDonnell (et. al.) refuse to disclose the donors? Why did (as Waldo, Bob Gibson and SoccerMom continue to ask) Republican National Committee give a million bucks to the Va. GOP to bail them out of the eavesdropping and wiretap case? Why doesn't the press -- in the name of Democracy -- demand that McDonnell just tell us (for pity's sake) who has given his campaign money? Why does Jerry Kilgore continue to hold onto campaign contributions from Pat Robertson? Why did the Va. GOP sue their insurer and expect that the penalties and legal fees they paid in the eavesdropping matter -- a criminal proceeding -- should be reimbursed? These are questions that require some digging.

When Woodward and Bernstein first started working on the reportage that came to be known as Watergate -- the Washington Post had NO IDEA where or what would come of their investigation. Once you strip away the cover-ups, Nixon's tapes and covert Deep Throat elements of the Watergate tale, it basically boils down to a story about campaign finance. Campaign finance.

I do not think it too much to ask that the newspaper that investigated Watergate realize that campaign finance is STILL a story, particularly when there are so many unanswered questions in this "Race to Richmond."

I am sorry if you (or anyone else) thinks I have attacked Shear personally. Just as we all can recognize the need for public officials to be called to a higher accountability and standard of leadership, the Fourth Estate needs to fulfill their obligation to maintaining democracy in this nation.

I expect him to do his job -- no more, no less.

Posted by: Yo'Momma2 | October 30, 2005 09:50 AM


NLS --
Looks to me like Yo'Momma2 has been reading "All the President's Men." Again. Thinking 'bout those Glory Days.

I don't think she is indulging in an "ad hominem attack" on Shear. I do think she makes an excellent point, however, about how lazy reporters have become.

Who watches the watchdogs?

I read a lot of stuff about the so-called liberal/conservative bias, but precious little coverage is dedicated to how lazy the mainstream media has become and how newspapers and other media are contributing to a serious "dumbing down" of American citizens.

The deeper "mystery" behind the McDonnell "Mystery" campaign contributions and where all those "700 Club" dollars from Pat "assassinate our enemies now" Robertson go, is why the press appears to be ...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ......who will tell them they are supposed to REPORT the NEWS -- NOT SNOOZE.

Posted by: SoccerMom | October 30, 2005 07:46 PM

well I'm just a kid living in Virginia but I think that all of you adults should set a good example and just vote for who you think if qualified and who will get the job done

Posted by: me | November 7, 2005 02:53 PM

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