If by "values" these people mean standing in the way of providing access to pre-K for any family that wants it, if these "values" mean standing in the way of $1.2 billion in funding for education and public health, then Kilgore is their man. Kilgore is hardly fiscally responsible; he is a pandering ideologue bent on vetoing any tax increase passed by this commonwealth's democratically elected body, regardless of how much good it does the state.

On the issue of abortions, both Kaine and Kilgore have pledged to enforce current law. Kaine has provided ways to reduce unnecessary abortions. On the issue of same-sex marriage, Kilgore has accused Kaine of supporting civil unions. Supporting domestic partner benefits for state employees is not a civil union by any stretch of the imagination.

Kilgore's misleading, fear-based and even prejudiced attacks should not be sanctioned by anyone's values in this election. Kaine is a committed Catholic and public servant. No unpopular, lame-duck president can change that.

Since you can't trust President Bush and his administration, who apparently are compulsive liars, how can any sane person trust a Kilgore Administration.

"No same-sex marriages. Equal opportunity for everybody" -- how anyone can say these two things in the same breath is beyond me.

MORE EVIDENCE THAT KILGORE WANTS TO CARRY US BACK TO OLD VIRGINNY....

Ms. Nealie Pitts saw a house in Chesterfield county with a for sale sign. Interested, she called the owner and inquired into purchasing it.

"This house is going to be sold to whites only," said the owner, Rufus Matthews, according to court papers filed by Pitts, who is black. "It's not for colored." (New York Times News Service, 5/1/05)

Now in 1944, the deed to Mr. Matthew's house included a covenant preventing sale of the house to anyone except Caucasians. By 1948, the US Supreme Court ruled that racially biased housing covenants are unconstitutional and non-binding. The illegality of this measure failed to impress Mr. Matthews, but Ms. Pitts decided not to let things just drop. She contacted the Fair Housing group Housing Made Equal (HOME) who sent out a black test buyer-who got a similar response, this time caught on tape. HOME decided to take things to court.

Accused of violating the Virginia Fair Housing Law, Matthews faced serious legal consequences. However, a provision of the law allowed the Virginia States Attorney General to hold up the case to attempt an out-of-court settlement. So, what would Jerry Kilgore's office do in one of the most clear cut legal cases of discriminatory housing fraud? Would he assure prompt prosecution and enforcement so that Ms. Pitts could buy her house?

In a word, no.

Jerry Kilgore waited-a year went by...

Jerry Kilgore waited-another year went by...

Jerry Kilgore then quit as attorney general, his handpicked sucessor decided to allow Matthews to settle for the lightest possible wrist slap-token fair housing classes without obligation to sell, ultimately a response fully unacceptable to the Ms. Pitts.

So the questions remain-why did Kilgore prevent resolution of a fully unconstitutional action? What possible reason could he have for preventing prompt resolution of an incontrovertibly racist action?

When asked about this question at a recent Urban League candidates symposium, Mr. Kilgore's assigned surrogate reacted with horror, claiming that there would be no way that Jerry Kilgore would have ever avoided bringing full justice to a case like this.

But as many in that audience knew, over two years have passed with the case in legal limbo and there is no aim to ever allow it to ever go to trial. That is justice, Kilgore-style.

In the 1960s, Martin Luther King Jr. pointed out that with racism, "justice deferred is justice denied." We depend on our government to ensure a prompt and effective justice system to ensure that critical wrongs-like indefensible acts of racism-are not sustained. How little would MLK expect that so many decades later, an Attorney General like Jerry Kilgore could abuse a statute issued so many decades earlier than MLK's own pronouncement.

Today the case remains open and Nealie Pitts remains living in rental housing, waiting for the day she can buy her dream home.

Justice has been denied, to Ms. Pitts, all minorities and every Virginian who expects fairness from our government. Send appropriate thanks to Jerry Kilgore on election day (elect Tim Kaine who actually has used his legal career to do meaningful things to protect fair housing)...and then also elect Creigh Deeds as new Attorney General, to ensure this case finally goes to trial.

Kilgore's values are the values of a majority of Virginians. We believe in traditional marriage and the sanctity of innocent life. We also believe in equal economic opportunity. Non-procreative marriages do nothing to enhance economic opportunity. There's a big difference between very real racial discrimination and an artificial redefinition of marriage.

If economy were the only reason for marriage, we'd still be in the Middle Ages. People get married for lots of reasons, and there are long enough lists of perfectly good children waiting to be adopted that people need to get over their fear of same-sex couples and let them adopt. The world could be a better place if the "majority of Virginians" would be more accepting of their gay and lesbian neighbors.

Now that's an interesting coincidence. I met a Rose Jones of roughly that age on Kilgore's Richmond staff at a rally a few months ago. Doesn't it seem odd that all these voters are remarkably on message?

I also understand that Kilgore's campaign has bussed in litterally hundreds of paid volunteers from out of state to do their GOTV program. I wonder where they all were Monday night?

Well I put my vote down for Kilgore thsi morning. Kaine this past week was just too much.

Ha ha ha ha. I put my vote down for Kaine, and I'm sure the real Soccer Mom did too. I hope the people who vote today vote to keep us on the right track.

I can't believe that someone who said they value "equal opportunity for everybody, and economic development for the lower socio-economic people" is even considering voting for Kilgore...or any Virginian Republican for that matter. I recommend that this person actually look at each platform and the history of governing of each party before they vote...if they do so they'll see that the Democrats have a much better track record on this than the Republicans (Warner v. Gilmore/Allen)...

...but that doesn't matter for her, she's going to vote Kilgore because he's anti-choice and pro-discrimination...nothing there about equal opportunity. But about this type of talk from conservatives, I think Shakespeare described it best: "sound and fury signifying nothing."

Hey "Values": Does that mean that straight people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry? Or that barren women and impotent men should be prevented from doing so? Are those "traditional marriages"? They're certainly non-procreative!

Or could it be that you just think homosexuality is gross? Why you people think that your bigotry can somehow be concealed behind, of all things, an ECONOMIC argument is just beyond me. Places in this country with large gay populations rank well in just about every quality of life indicator. It's a dumb and baseless argument and my guess is that you're all just ashamed to admit that you're homophobes.

Yeah.
I could easily argue that a legal marriage between two successful people of the same sex (which gay couples overwhelmingly are) that adopts and cares for unwanted children of a "procreative" union between a man and a woman certainly has some economic benefits.

Keep children from being raised in a socio-economic situation without opportunity, where they grow up disadvantaged through no fault of their own, and you benefit society.

The evidence is all out there.
You just have to look.
I was never a big abortion rights guy (even as a Democrat), until I took a look at the effect Roe v. Wade had on murder & violent crime.

We should do everything we can, in this state and in this country, to ensure our children grow up with opportunity and hope.

the choice seems obvious to me - if you want Virginia to keep moving forward - vote for Kaine. If you want to go back to how it was before Warner (deficits, partisan fighting) - vote Kilgore.

Don't be distracted by social wedge issues - Republicans only bring them up around election time but if you notice, don't do anything about them when they are elected. Don't be tricked again, vote for what's best for Virginia. That's Kaine.

fiscal responsibility? Let's not forget Kilgore has never cut a tax in his life. As a paid lobbyist, Jerry tried to get the legislature to raise natural gas taxes by 66% and said his property tax plan would allow localities to raise our property taxes "as high...as they want." Bristol Herald Courier, 1/1/00 and 1/16/00; SB 213 (2000); Kilgore, Remarks to the Vienna (Va.) Rotary Club, 8/24/05

No same-sex marriages. Equal opportunity for everybody... oxymoron isn't it? I remember when Kilgore basically threatened our college school boards to remove affirmative action programs and sexual orientation from their non-discrimination policy. The latter being something that the students of Virginia Tech fought for over 2 years for to be added. Following the reaction from the school's public, there was a repeal and Kilgore backpedaled on his reasons. Does that sound like he supports equal opportunity?

Also, I think it speaks greatly on the fact that Kilgore decided to resign to campaign full-time while Kaine remained in the position of Lt. Governor finishing his term while conducting his campaign.

Kilgore is a Republican running for Governor in a GOP-leaning state and has been visited by the ever-popular George W. Bush. If Kilgore gets any less than 55% of the vote, it will be a "moral victory" for Kaine. If Kilgore gets 53% or 54%. it'll be an embarrassment for the GOP. Kilgore has the wind at his back, money in the bank---so, why is he running scared?? I don't understand it.

So when all is said and done, Jerry Kilgore wants to stand on a stage with someone who lied to us about going to war and who fiddled while the Gulf Coast drowned. That's it, Jerry. Get in real close to George for a picture. You're doin' a heckuva job, Jerry. TK4G.

My heart swelled with pride as Air Force One approached the hangar last night, its U.S. Flag illuminated and majestic music playing. President Bush and his wife Laura have made us proud to be Americans and it was a joy to see him endorse the next Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Soccormom said "Well I put my vote down for Kilgore thsi morning. Kaine this past week was just too much."

You mean the robo-calls? Those weren't from Kaine, they were from the Republican Governor's Association via their "Honest Leadership for Virginia PAC".

And from the main entry, Mary Bria when ``[a]sked what about Kilgore represented her values, she said "fiscal responsibility...''

In my book, fiscal responsibility involves not borrowing from the future to pay for things. The only candidate who campaigned responsibly on this front was independent Russ Potts. Personally, I wish Warner could keep going.

SoccerMom VOTED FOR TIM KAINE.

I am astounded that CP would tell YET ANOTHER BOLD-FACED LIE!

I sure hope we can turn to our children and tell them that the ELECTION OF TIM KAINE proves that it really is true: CHEATERS DON'T WIN.....

SoccerMom VOTED FOR TIM KAINE.

I am astounded that CP would tell YET ANOTHER BOLD-FACED LIE!

I sure hope we can turn to our children and tell them that the ELECTION OF TIM KAINE proves that it really is true: CHEATERS DON'T WIN.....

SoccerMom VOTED FOR TIM KAINE.

I am astounded that CP would tell YET ANOTHER BOLD-FACED LIE!

I sure hope we can turn to our children and tell them that the ELECTION OF TIM KAINE proves that it really is true: CHEATERS DON'T WIN.....

SoccerMom VOTED FOR TIM KAINE.

I am astounded that CP would tell YET ANOTHER BOLD-FACED LIE!

I sure hope we can turn to our children and tell them that the ELECTION OF TIM KAINE proves that it really is true: CHEATERS DON'T WIN.....

SoccerMom wrote: "SoccerMom VOTED FOR TIM KAINE"

Ah, then I misread when you (or someone pretending to be you -- this forum seems to do no checking) wrote "I put my vote down for Kilgore thsi morning" above. I do see the capitalization is different. It was not my intention to misrepresent you, but to respond to that statement.

I am also assuming that someone else has my initials and has a history with you on this forum, since my participation on this forum has been limitted to the past day or two. Given my short history here, I can't see how, even if one were to classify my misunderstanding as a bald-faced lie, it could be considered to be "yet another" one.

For the record, I voted for Kaine. I had been planning to vote for Potts, but the fake mailer from Kilgore, plus the two robo-calls I received from the ironically named "Honest Leadership for Virginia PAC" (a funding conduit from the Republican Governors Assn) pissed me off. I figured Potts will likely get some other votes from the dishonest Kilgorite tactics. I might have kept my vote for Potts if the Post had run a story on those tactics. It was a toss-up. As long as Kilgore doesn't win, I'm happy.

I was wondering if there is a site where we can monitor the election more closely?

All of these people who equate being anti-abortion with "Christian values":

Just once, just once, I'd like to see someone cite Jesus Christ himself preaching against abortion. (And don't say he didn't because abortions never happened back then. The fact is, women have been helping each other terminate pregnancies for thousands of years.)

Can't find an example of it, can ya? But Jesus Christ himself DID preach against greed and selfishness and rich people ignoring the needs of people in poverty. Those are TRUE Christian values, based on the teachings of Christ himself.

And based on those values, I almost always vote Democratic. Kaine himself lived those Christian values by working directly with the poor, both as a missionary and in his law practice. Kilgore? Not so much.

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