Congrats JLC

Congratulations to the La Canfora family! Rocco welcome to the world and the Redskin family (or is it Ravens?)

Excellent news and glad to hear family is well.

Hail to Rocco!

CONGRATS!!

Great name! Congrats!

congratulations Jason!!!!!!! and Lauren and Chloe!!!

Rocco? that is so jason! big boy fits the name.

Great news, congrats! Best wishes to all the LaCanforas. Rocco LaCanfora is an awesome name.

But seriously give me some Briggs Updates!!!!!!!! The Guys at ES are still trying to say Synder has nothing to do with this team.

Rocco, I really like the name. Wish you guys the best

Jason, congrats to you and your wife on your new addition. Wonderful news, hope everyone is doing well.

Congrats Jason and family!

Awesome name. Bangbros...don't even say what I know you're thinking of saying!!

Is it too early to ask if Rocco can play at D tackle? Like, this fall?

Congratulations...

With a name like Rocco La Canfora, he can either be a linebacker or a bookie.

Way to go!

Nice Italian name too! My family would be proud.

Just remember... when it comes to kids: One is one, two is a hundered.

congrats!

A guy named Rocco DeRocco came up in a conversation with my father-in-law last night. Rocco LaCanfora is better.

Congratulations!

Rocco is a fine choice! I'm naming my first born son Hilarius. (1st Dorf to come to America) so maybe my opinion doesn't matter. Anyway, congrats... I was actually anticipating this thread more than any trade rumor or draft insight... way to go LaCanforas!

Going from yesterday Re: Branch/Okoye

The latest Mock Draft has us drafting Okoye with the #6, now. As I said yesterday, the 'Skins like Okoye more than they do Branch. The guy is Super Smart!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6613528

Congrats, JLC! I love the name....

Congrats on the little one, JLaC.

A little advice -- when making diaper changes, cover his private parts as quickly as possible. When they're that little, they're good for a squirt or two in your face if you don't move quickly enough. LOL

Sign Rocco to a contract!

Good work, La Canforas! Although Jason probably put in the bulk of his work 9 months ago, so I should say great work Lauren! JLC... good assist.

Great name, by the way. If he takes after the only Rocco I know (best friend from high school) he will soon be beating the ladies off with a stick in paradise (Miami). Not a bad [potential] future, by my estimations.

Here's to baby Rocco Kevin La Canfora's continued good health!

Congratulations to the La Canforas! Welcome Rocco!

They have Pee pee tee pee's for the squirting issues. (I have two boys myself.)

JLaC,

Congrats to the brood, but is there any truth to the rumor that you'll be trading Chloe, Rocco, and the rights to a future child for Shiloh Pitt and the rights to one of Bragelina's future adopted kids?

Adam

Diapersare good for all ages...not just infants

Congrats...

EaglesFan... ahahahahhaha

I love the name. Should be good for at least 2 1st rounders if you're interested in sending him ot the Skins.

Congrats.

Jason. I was wondering if you did a home delivery since they don't let you use a cell phone in the hospital. Say, you hear about this Briggs rumour?

Congratulations JLaC!

Congrats JLaC!

Congrats Jason!

The Briggs deal can't be true. He is the best coverage LB's in the NFL, and one of the best LB's in the NFL period (proven with some stats from Football Outsiders). But has also been accomplishing this in a Tampa 2 defense which we don't play. The fact that we drafted Rocky Mac high shouldn't matter though, from our perspective he never got a shot, but the coaches see him in practice every day and if they think he stinks than so be it.

Furthermore, Teams don't even play 3 LB's at all times, any nickel or dime situation only involve 2 LB's or less (any 3rd and long). So it is completely pointless to have 3 highly paid LB's in a 4-3 defense.

Finally, I totally agree. Say whatever you want about the DL performance 2 yrs ago, but last year it stunk, there was no pass rush at all! Terrible, horrible, embarrassing....We never cause turnovers cuz we never pressure or sack the qb. Wynn is done, Montgomery never played, Carter was pushed around on running plays and had maybe 4 good games, and Salave'a is indeed 'just a guy'. Daniels is ok, but we need a beast! I didn't watch closely enough, but if Griffin is double teamed, then everyone else is single-teamed and still not getting a rush!

Strahan is also still on the block.....wouldn't mind him one bit...

Congratulations, Jason and family.

Congrats! Hope mama is doing well!

Congrats Jason. This has really been an excellent blog and you've done fantastic work on it. Thanks, and have a great time with little Rocco.

That has to be one of the coolest names I've ever heard. He's already got a linebackers name (no pun intended on the whole briggs debacle).

Congrats JLC and family.

10 TCCLs for them.

Congrats JLaC! Great name!

Congrats on the baby, J-la! All the best to you, your wife, Chloe and Rocco! Make sure Chloe gets a little extra attention, too - she'll be a tad miffed she's not the center of attention in the house, anymore.

And EaglesFan, shush! You know the la Canforas are going to follow the illustrious lead of the Redskins FO and pick an 11-year old veteran free agent kid as their next acquisition, right? C'mon, it works so well for the Skins, after all....

Jason-Excellent news! I am sending you a 3rd round pic in 2008 as a gift! Keep up the good work, and again, congrats!!!

GREAT NEWS ALL THE BEST FROM ENGLAND!!
i think the briggs thing is all talk from his agent ???
i think we need help big time on the D-L
[pass rush pass rush] but what do i know ?
having said that we will end up trading down for more picks

JLC,
"May your second child be a masculine child!"
L.A.

Congrats on your new addition to the family!

Mazal Tov!!!
That's great news, Jason.
Best wishes to your family.
-Scott

Nice work JLC, congrats.

Did I just read a potential Brangelina jr./Shiloh trade in the making? AWESOME.

You'd better do the trade now - Rosenhaus's peeps are in contact w/ Shiloh, and if that goes through, we'll probably have to send a draft pick to Denver for Champ Bailey's cryo preserved manhood and a donation to be made later.

oh - this just in - Rocky Macintosh was seen ice skating at Verizon - he figures he has a better chance at Goalie for the Caps than PT w/ the skins. Thanks for coming out Rocky.

PG

Congrats! With all your new sleepless nights, you might have EVEN MORE time to do these blogs, I hear Snyder is a night owl, too.

Can't give details yet on what we're learning on the Briggs talks, but I can tell you that it ain't there yet. There's lots of scurrying at the owners' meeting, but so far no deal. One highly-placed source is skeptical, another vague, a third may be posturing. We just dunno yet. When we're sure of our reporting, we'll let you know.

Congrats to JLC and family !
They should do the same (Briggs Deal-swap picks, etc) to the Patriots for Asante' Samuel instead....

Thanks, Cindy, we're wandering in the desert of speculation, thirsting for news on this.

And to think I was getting kind of excited about the Hoyas in the Final Four, the Nats' third opening day, the Caps returning to red-white-and blue uniforms, a nice quiet Skins offseason... you know, more or less happy times for DC sports... and then this Briggs rumor popped up. Ah well.

Cindy- Thank you. Hopefully the person doing the posturing is Mr. Next Question himself.

Congrats to you and Lauren JLC...best wishes!

Rocco? Isn't he already the 'Skins LB? He's going to be tough to feed and buy shoes for.

I still say the Briggs thing is diversionary to put pressure on Denver or others to trade with the 'Skins.

But what do I know? I'm just a logical guy sitting in an office buidling in downtown DC. I don't drink the water at Redskins Park.

Cindy, thanks for the data!

Jason (as if you would be checking in at a time like this), congratulations on a HEALTHY baby ... and enjoy your new master (not only the kids, but EIGHT+ pounds!?! Lauren gets Olympic medals for that one ... or a shot at the opening in the middle of the D line).

Skepticism, vagueness, posturing ... sounds like my explanation to Mrs. dcsween about my last trip to Vegas.

Is it fair to say that the 'Skins have the sixth pick in a five-player draft? That the first five are head-and-shoulders above the next ten? And that, in choosing among the next ten, it's a matter of need (which the Redskins have many of) and/or luck.

This may be why the 'Skins would want to trade the pick now, rather than when they're on the clock. If one of the top five drops to six, then the pick is Priceless. But if they first five are all gone, then the sixth pick is not worth too much more than, say the fifteenth. Pretty risky.

Congrats Jason!

Any chance of a 3-way deal? Somehow involving Bly, Briggs, Springs, and draft picks being tossed around. Sorry for the vague post, just trying to think of a way the Skins can avoid having another LB unless Rocky is that bad and Marcus is that banged up...

I think Rocco was just a smidge over eight pounds...Jason said yesterday he thought this one would be "hefty" and that, if it turned out to be twins, they were leaving one with the hospital! I volunteered to take one, then realized that I was fresh out of Peepeeteepees.
Jeez, yet another thing I could have invented and made a fortune on. I thought up java jackets way before Starbucks. Did I get a patent? Noooooooooooooooo.

JLa,

Congrats and best wishes to you, Lauren, Chloe and your newest addition!

Congrats! Great News

dcsween- Too funny. My wife laid down the law before the baby was born a few months ago...said if the baby even touched 8 pounds I was, um, uh...gonna be banned from the playing field forever. Well, since baby 4-12 was north of 9 pounds, I'm still debating the technicality that she didn't touch 8 pounds. Needless to say, lots of solo practice time lately...

Pat Kirwan at nfl.com put up a new mock draft ... and has the Skins picking LaRon Landry at #6. More interestingly, he already factors the possibility of a Skins-Briggs trade into his write-ups. At #31, he says that if the deal does go threw, the Skins will pick a D lineman there. Most interestingly, the order he has for DEs going is Adams, Carriker, Moss, Spencer ... and he doesn't have Anderson going in the first round at all.

Wry, wry, Rocco.

That was me. I can't quit.

MUST
STOP
BLOGGING ...

Congrats Jason!!!

Briggs info from scout.com:

"When asked about such an offer, Redskins owner Dan Snyder confirmed to FOXSports.com that he in fact wanted to make the move and they were waiting to talk to Chicago . In fact, Snyder spent a couple of minutes talking to Briggs, who showed up with Rosenhaus at the meeting.

Snyder and football operations man Vinny Cerato left to find head coach Joe Gibbs regarding the deal. But before leaving, Rosenhaus informed Cerato that he in fact spoke with the Bears and they were waiting an official call from the Redskins"

So thrilled for you all! Thinking of you all, especially LK who did all the work... yes someone cares about you!!

Welcome to modern life, i hope he doesn't end up with a heffa!!!!

Anyone? Get it...LOL

Best wishes!!

4-12, both my little ladies are in the 6 pound range ("I've cooked turkeys bigger than this baby! Now I have to take care of it?"). Mrs. dcsween is a doc and has delivered babies herself, and she knew better so she never did a 5th push during the first delivery (wanted to keep intact down there). Our first had a head like a cucumber ... nearly Aztec ... measured in at 21 inches ... then 19 inches less than 8 hours later. I was out of town on biz and missed the second delivery (35 weeks). No mulligans for that.

I'm flummoxed on this Briggs thing -- mostly wondering how the Skins could afford it. IF they pull it off AND get a first round defensive end AND get Dre Bly, then I might start counting my chickens. But even in that scenario, how do they afford it (even assuming the predicted cap cuts)?

Congratulations, Jason. Glad to hear everyone is doing well.

sween, shake it off, buddy. Like Dorf, I think you're just a little burned out. You've been BYGO for months now, doing yeoman's work.

Take some time off, re-connect with the family, maybe spend some time on 'real work' at your 'job.' You know, get your feet back under you... this is the equivalent of Gibbs letting dudes train on their own during part of the offseason.

As long as you come back in shape and ready to blog by end of summer, no problem. We're going to need you fellers up here.

Hey, La Canfora!

1800 NFL players and you name your first son after a GOLFER?????????

Congratulations, Jason and Lauren! Best wishes and good health to Rocco!

sween- My little girl was sunny side up, so after an evening-overnight-thru-morning labor, they ended up doing a C-section. Probably was for the best not having Mrs. 4-12 squeeze her out.

"Head like a cucumber". Classic.

Congratulations to all the La Canfora's.

Congrats Jason. Also posted on the old thread:

""If somebody makes an offer, they have to come to us, and nobody from the Redskins has come to me in an official capacity with anything," [Chicago GM] Angelo said. "So, that's where it is. I'm not going to comment on media speculation, because there was a lot of it last night, as I'm sure there is today.

"What was said last night was, to my knowledge, inaccurate. Nobody from the Redskins called me to offer us anything."

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/314796,bears0327.article

Congrats JLC and fam!!

Congrats Jason!

Well, after being out of touch for a while (caring for my own new addition!) it's great to come back and hear this great news! Congrats Jason!

Congrats Jason.

Thinking about NEXT QUESTION, I wanted to go back and try to figure out who the agent is for Rocky Mac. Didn't find that, but found THIS interesting tidbit from a Patriots blog from around this time last year (note that OLB Beason is in THIS year's draft):

"... I continue to caution about Roger MacIntosh. I think he rates mid-late 4th round by a team who is looking for a spot back-up and great special teams player. Roger was hurt a good deal of his career at the U. He's had shoulder surgery, and couldn't beat out Jon Beason or Leon Williams the last half of the 2005 season. But, he did play a lot. (Beason plays mostly inside, but can also play outside.) They tried Roger inside a couple of games, but he had trouble getting in on tackles and is not the best cover guy. He's a great kid and I think he has a future in the NFL, but other than special teams, he is a project. He is listed on some mock draft boards as a late 2nd-3rd rd pick, which I don't understand. Being an ACC guy, I've seen and like Oliver Hoyte as a better value pick by the Pats, despite his slow 40 time. Roger is about .15 seconds faster. He (Hoyte) should be available well after the 3rd round and may even fall into the 6th."

I'm still debating the technicality that she didn't touch 8 pounds. Needless to say, lots of solo practice time lately...

LMAO

Congratulations to you and your expanded family! We expect Chloe will learn to love her little brother, and we'll look forward to buying an extra hot dog when you both come to partake of the fan experience in the upper bowl.

Congrats Jason!

Rocco huh? I think it is cool because it sounds more like Rock-o.

Canton, Ohio - 2052

"First I'd like to thank the Hall for voting me in my first year of eligibilty. I thought they might refuse as I declared I wouldn't go in unless Art Monk got in too. Here he is 95 years old and still able to catch it over the middle.
I'd like to thank my teammates on the Redskins who helped me and us win 5 consecutive Super Bowls. They were all great but my favorite moment had to be when Coach let me play offense as TE and I caught that 50 yarder from Trip Jurgensen. Everyone thought my playing TE would result in a colossal shabingus but I knew I had the hands.
I'd like to thank my pack of fans who follow me everywhere despite their arthritis. You know them cause they wear the t-shirts "Smack to the back of the head courtesy of Rocco." or "If it feels like a shagingus, smells like a shabingus, tastes like a shabingus then you must be a Cowboys fan." They're a weird bunch and frankly their incessant blogging is frigthening but I wouldn't have been in football without them.
Finally I'd like to thank my parents. My mom who tolerated me and my dad and our non-stop sports junkie fests and road trips especially to the RI pub crawls. And to my dad who even though he is a Raven's fan dressed in the burgundy and gold every Sunday for 12 years. Plus they gave me the name Rocco La Canfora which is a name of destiny."

I think this Briggs stuff is Fluff......its just a player or team using the Redskins Name again to drum up interest in their player or spark trade ideas.......

I think the Bears would need to throw in other picks for such a deal as we 1) have to negotiate a new contract, 2) are sliding down 25 spots, and 3) are more in need of a DE, DT, OG than another LB.

And given we will have oodles of Cap room next season.....I say let Briggs sit 10 games then play spot role in 6 and become a UFA.

Now if we are switching to a 3-4 scheme...different story.

Congrats, Jla C, way to go Rocco!! What an awesome name. Hope the whole family is doing well.

This whole Briggs mess is scaring me, just when I thought we weren't going to be playing in the sandbox this year....

sfskin--

Nice piece of work! I bet it goes into the babybook. Maybe not on page one, but it will be in there somewhere.

Congrats, Jason!

As far as Briggs goes, I don't want him on this team. We don't need another money hungary player, and that is clearly what he is. Trade the pick for more picks, or at least a player in a position of more need. By the way, I don't think we should go after Bly either. Keep Springs, he is a great player when healthy, we just need more depth in case of injury.

Congrats to the LaCanfora Family.

Tell whoever is covering the owners meeting to "accidentally" lock Snyder and Ceratto in a stairwell or steal their cellphones or something.

Gratz JLC! Nothing like a the birth of your child to help you discover true, unconditional love.

Longtime lurker, first-time poster. I apologize in advance but need to vent.

Smart teams make draft-day trades. That is when your pick is at the highest value. Someone inevitably drops in the draft and a team will move to come up and get him. Oddly, the Skins seem to prefer to trade their picks BEFORE the draft (see their pre-draft positioning to acquire JC two years ago). Either they are scared of f'ing up the draft-day move or they are inept. Or both.

If they trade this pick prior to draft day they should fire the entire scouting department because they don't trust them to make selections. In all drafts quality players drop and I would hate to see who may be available at #6 and what value that would have during the draft to other teams.

To refresh your memory the reason we don't have a 2nd rounder is because we traded it with last years 2nd rounder to move up 8 measly spots in the 2nd round to draft Rocky McIntosh. And then not play him at all. So basically if this deal goes down we would be giving up the #6 overall pick and 2 second round picks to receive the 31st pick (basically a 2nd rounder) in order to fill one linebacker spot.

If this goes down, I'm going to unload my tickets on stubhub and not renew them again. It would take a lot to continue to support this team with my money. It's insulting.

Tell whoever is covering the owners meeting to "accidentally" lock Snyder and Ceratto in a stairwell or steal their cellphones or something.

brilliant!

Say, is it possible that we could trade #6 to New England? They have pick #24 AND #28 and they are in a spending spree this season. That way we can get two first round picks with a DE and a G. Or is #6 too low for New England to consider getting?

JLaC, pay no attention to sfskin. Get him into soccer ... or hockey ... or development of carbon-neutral energy sources ... and steer him away from the HGH ... unless he has real football talent, in which case, has he signed with an agent yet?

way to go JaLa. Where I live there are lots of Rocco's, If you ever need a favor ,say you want someone's legs broken I know a guy, who knows a guy who might know a guy (named Rocco) who might be able to provide said favor. know what I mean?

Lurking Season-Ticket Holder --

I guess I'm not convinced by your premise that "Smart teams make draft-day trades. That is when your pick is at the highest value. Someone inevitably drops in the draft and a team will move to come up and get him."

I agree it can work that way -- sometimes -- but I don't see it as "inevitable." It's a risk, like rolling dice. The 'Skins got incredibly lucky one draft day when Ricky Williams slipped and they ended up getting Champ Bailey plus picks.

When you don't get lucky, you're stuck on draft day sucking your own pick. That's exactly why you don't see many trades on draft day unless it's someone stupid, like the Redskins, moving up to get Rocky. And the Redskins can't count on finding anyone as stupid as they are on draft day to bail them out. If they can get a good trade (and I'm not sure I'd trust them to judge whether it's a good one) before draft day, they should take it.

I'm starting to think that no matter what they do, it can only be wrong.

Welcome, Lurking Season-Ticket Holder.
I'm in your boat. In fact, I'm not even going to bother with stubhub or ebay. I'm just not renewing.
But hey, they keep emailing me "fantastic opportunities" to upgrade to "premium seating". Oh boy. They shouldn't have any problem filling those seats, what with the *ahem* 200K plus on the waiting list.

cdubb wrote:

Tell whoever is covering the owners meeting to "accidentally" lock Snyder and Ceratto in a stairwell or steal their cellphones or something.

Old School wrote:

If you ever need a favor ,say you want someone's legs broken I know a guy, who knows a guy who might know a guy (named Rocco) who might be able to provide said favor. know what I mean?

cdubb, Old School. Old School, cdubb.

Now, get to plannin'....

Attention hamsters! The Skins have provided a bar that you can continue to click for more treats. http://draft.epiccycle.com/redskins/

Congrats Jason, to you and the fam.

Count yourself lucky. You were able to focus on something more important than this Briggs b.s. This purported move may allow Snyder to steal back "Most Clueless Owner" title from Bob McNair. Good times.

Congratulations Jason! It's good when nice things happen to nice people. Rock-on Rocco!

Congratulations to Mamma, Pappa, sister and baby Rocco!

Getting Biggs would be a horrible move. Rocky played every well when he started at the end of last season. Give our player a chance. Rocky could be the next lance Briggs. Just imagine if we gave Ladell Betts a chance and not traded for Clinton Portis. Heck we didn't even give Patrick Ramsey a chance. This is why the redskins will ever be good. You have to play and let your own guys develop.

"When you don't get lucky, you're stuck on draft day sucking your own pick. That's exactly why you don't see many trades on draft day unless it's someone stupid, like the Redskins, moving up to get Rocky. And the Redskins can't count on finding anyone as stupid as they are on draft day to bail them out. If they can get a good trade (and I'm not sure I'd trust them to judge whether it's a good one) before draft day, they should take it.

I'm starting to think that no matter what they do, it can only be wrong."

I feel like KK was abused by the draft at some point in life.

"Drafts!?! You can't trust them! They're all after only one thing... then they leave you and refuse to help take care of your huge bust of draft pick. Who needs them!?! I spit on their graves..."

Congratulations, of course, to the entire La Canfora family - Rocco La Canfora - great great name...

They really have pee pee tee pees? My god - you new daddies are living soft...

Sounds like Lauren and Rocco are healthy and happy. Yea. Hope both continue to be so in the future.

September 11, 2005 (FedEx field), Bears v. Skins ... Patrick Ramsey's last start in burgundy and gold:

3 down and 16 on the Chicago 16 (11:08)

11-P.Ramsey sacked at CHI 19 for -3 yards (55-L.Briggs). FUMBLES (55-L.Briggs), RECOVERED by CHI-91-T.Harris at CHI 19. 91-T.Harris to CHI 19 for no gain (60-C.Samuels). WAS-11-P.Ramsey was injured during the play.

So who is this L.Briggs character anyway?

As to size:

my son, "Ryan D in Houston" weighed in at 6 Lbs 13 Oz...

And is now 6' 4" and 230 and a freshman at the University of Texas - ya never know - and size 13 shoes are damned hard to find

That was the play that ended Ramsey's Washington career. And it was an illegal it that didn't get called... Briggs clotheslined Ramsey.

Flim

I like your thinking.

Peter King showing how biased and how much of an agenda he carries against the Redskins:

1. Raiders
Trade down to No. 6 for the Redskins' first- and second-round picks in 2008 plus WR Antwaan Randle El, and choose QB Brady Quinn. (Washington takes WR Calvin Johnson.)

Apparently he's more stupid than I had previously given him credit for.

Congrats Jason and family. I have one of each also but in the reverse order.

Does Rocco have representation yet? Skins need someone that can break through the line and disrupt the lives on the other side...This kid sounds like what the Skins need on the DL. Somebody get Drew on the phone... this kid has potential!!! I know he will get at least an 8 million signing bonus from Dan...But with Rocco joining the Redskins... that means someone has to go...anyone want to tell Brandon Lloyd?

Thanks for the feedback KK.

My actually solution may be to keep my seats and wear a customized burgundy jersey with the name "Rosenhaus" on the back to every home game.

OK, last time here. Just wanted to acknowledge 4-12's post and say I feel your pain. My family has had tickets since the early 80's. I inherited them shortly before the move to FedUp Field.

Been getting jerked around by the ticket office ever since Snyder took over. He really treats the fans shoddily and it's embarrassing to call in and try to get some customer service on anything.

Anyways, thanks to the whole board for letting my vent today. Congrats JLC and family.

Heh. That one was a real gem you found, Greg. Of course, giving him credit for being stupider than you thought previously presumes that you thought he wasn't completely addle-minded from the get-go.

It astounds me how it is that some writers can come up with the most outlandish drafting scenarios. They're trying ever so hard to make their draft board stand out from the rest. Despite the irrational exuberance in logic required to contemplate them, they put them out, often stretching with offal like Petey's little nose-nugget quoted above. I guess with few repercussions (i.e. they can claim that's just the way the draft works, etc.), and lots to gain with a shot in the dark (get some sort of label as a draft guru, etc.), why wouldn't you?

Congrats!! Remind yourself to sleep whenever the little one sleeps.

The rock says get your candy ass back on the beat and get some Lance briggs info.

Congratulations Mr. La Canfora !

Thank you for all your contributions - and the best of luck to you and your family.

We shouldn't even be having this discussion on Briggs.
Imagine if we just re-signed our key players on defense, instead of going frazy in the off season.
Here's what our defensive backfield would look like:
MLB: Pierce
OLB: Washington*
OLB: Merriman (drafted instead of Double Move)
CB: Bailey (no trade for Portis, but Betts is a #1 RB)
CB: Smoot
NB: Walt Harris*
FS: Reaper
SS: Clark

*-Signed as free agent

Drafting Merriman may be a stretch, but chances are we would have taken him or Ware in the draft.

Jason, congratulations to you and Lauren and Chloe. Great news, and he sounds like he's healthy!

'ey yo!...Fadda Carmine! I got a big fight tonight and I was hoping you could 'trow me a blessin'...'

Congrats JLC!

from nfl.com:

"League owners voted 30-2 to make the video replay system to aid officiating a permanent tool. All but three stadiums will be equipped with high-definition equipment and will be recabled before the upcoming season. The stadiums being replaced in Irving, Texas, Indianapolis and East Rutherford, N.J., will not get the updates."

So (almost) every team in the NFL gets the benefit of hi-def instant replay ... and the Skins play three AWAY games in stadiums (stadia?) that don't get upgraded (I'm including the Jets for a second visit to the Meadowlands).

Congrats! Love the name.

Congrats!!!

Congrats!!!

I get it KC Skins Fan!!!!! That used to be my favorite show of all time when I was younger!! "Rocko's Modern Life..rocko's modern life (low voice)" Hahahaha!! That show had so much innuendo. I remember one time, rocko, hef, and dilbert (was that his name) were playing a board game with a monkey in the middle and a paddle in their hands, and they had to "Spank" the monkey! They don't make children's shows like that anymore :(

The creator of Rocko's Modern Life is now creating Camp Lazlo

Drew Rosenhaus was just interviewed on ESPN and said that Briggs met with the Bears yesterday and it was determined he had no future with them. Said it was now up to the Skins and Bears to get a deal done. Rosenhaus said it would be GREAT for the Bears and indicated it was a done deal.

Then Mort came on and said that was Rosenhaus at his best. Mort said that Angelos spoke briefly with the Skins today and let them know he did not plan to trade Briggs and did not appreciate their interference.

Who knows?

DC--the reason for not updating Irving, East Rutherford, and Indy?

Don't those three cities plan to open new stadiums within the next two years?

anybody up for a steak dinner and some beers?

Lisa, I would be more inclined to believe Mort, than some slicky boy parasite, looking to bolster his commission check.

Rosenhaus knows there is only one team dumb enough to overpay........

Mortensen subtly backhanded Rosenhaus. It was hilarious.

"Drew sure is the best at making noise..." -- Chris Mortensen

I believe Mort over the liar agent. The Skins are doing their golden boy agent a favor by putting this info out there and push Da Bears to signing an extended contract. The Skins have no intention in getting Briggs.

k x k, yes.

NEXT QUESTION! [k squared, that wasn't directed at you, I was just remarking about how Rosenhaus is irritating Angelos ... I wonder if Angelos is thinking "didn't I just help these guys reduce their shame factor by picking up Archuleta? maybe they don't understand that its me shaming Briggs, not vice versa."]

Seriously is there anything funnier than saying "peepee teepee" out loud?

Go on try it . . . if you aren't laughing then you're a cold hearted snake oh oh. . .

Mike####, I think $nyder does have an intention to get Briggs ... but its the Bears who have no intention of letting him go. That said, I don't know whether the Bears' GM is as petty as the Skins' FO and would feel the need to punish Briggs for making a scene ... but my crazy 8 ball tells me probably yes, so maybe they see an opportunity for a three-fer ... where they punish the Skins and NEXT QUESTION! for increasing attention on the scene that Briggs made.

I don't know what to make of the Briggs thing because on the one hand it's absurd and Rosenhaus is all about the badda bing badda boom for PR.
On the other hand it's the Redskins and the Danny.

so are these fabled pee pee tee pees just those cone cups next to the water cooler? that's not an invention. that's just fair use.

I need teepee for my peepee. hehehehehe

dcsween - no here's a link to peepee teepee shopping. My favorite is the holiday peepee teepee.

Okay seriously I'm 5 years old right now cause I'm crying from laughing so hard.

http://www.uncommongoods.com/item/item.jsp?itemId=13271

$12 for five cotton pee pee tee pees!?!?!? if the need arises in the dcsween household, the dcsween pee pee tee pee is going to be a wash cloth!

sfskin, you're rocking it today. Is it spring break for your kiddies? Or just in an especially good mood because of the real life civics lessons unfolding on Capitol Hill?

That was me the 5 year old. . . I blame it on the fact that I had quarter grades due today so I spent hours on mind numbing papers. . . nah not really I just think peepee teepee is funny . . . I know

MUST

STOP

SAYING

PEEPEE TEEPEE

Hey Moose, Rocco, Help the Judge find his checkbook...

Beavis was me. Couldn't resist.

sounds like Bucktown and Nate need to be looped in on this ... RI pee pee tee pees coming soon to cafepress.com!

Sadly Nate we don't have spring break for another 2 weeks . . . I know my life is really hard.

But the real life civics lesson is making the course a whole lot more exciting for students.

Rosenhaus kept OVERSTATING how GREAT the deal would be for the Bears...."how great it would be for the Bears - they go to the Super Bowl last season and will now get a number 6 pick." I noticed he did not OVERSTATE that it would be great for the Skins.

PPTP! PPTP! PPTP!

Screw it ... I'll just walk down to the bathroom and deal with my afternoon coffee like a grown up.

dcsween - I'm too inane right now to be creative but I'm thinking how "Smack to the back of the head" takes on a whole new meaning with the peepee teepee. . . .

seriously guys I'm sorry I can't stop please bear with me. . .

peepee teepee peepee teepee peepeeteepeeeeeee

Lisa - thanks for holding it together and staying focused. Lord knows I clearly can't.

Do we even have cap room for Briggs? I know it's all financial gymnastics but the guy is walking away from 7mill what can we give him?

I thought the pee pee tee tee was just a diaper. Open it up and lay diaper on top of the unit. The padding will absorb any sudden......activity.

Possible t-shirt:

"bLloyd's worth = five peepeeteepees"

Would the PPTP also serve as a ... well cap..for the cap?

A cap TP?

I'm about to leave, who is in for the steak dinner and beers?

And, to go well with theme marketing, is there, in fact, a PPTP with the 'Skins logon on it?

I think a shirt that simply reads "peepee teepee" across the front would be awesome. Though the imagination does run wild with possibilities.

Of course I want Lance Briggs. Last year i burned a bunch of draft picks to move up to pick Rocky. But he is so 2006. I want Lance Because he will probably sell more jerseys and bring in additional revenue.

Congrats to Jason & Family.
I understand Vinny has thrown Rocco into the proposal for Briggs...

Cheers Jason! I feel ya. I have an 18 mo old and another due in July. It's almost a better feeling than a Washington Redskins win!

sfskin, I don't see how we can afford Briggs unless we cut half the team.

Congrats ... Rocco. Hope its a relative and NOT Rocco the "BIG spy" famous for forging those papers GW used to predicate the attack on Iraq. I'm sure Laura Rosen would be horrified! Just kidding.

Back to the 'Skins. If Snyder is still on the loose expect another losing season. The guy who came up with the defense sans Snyder interference left out La Var. La Var might not have been injured had he stayed with the 'Skins. I expect that passes through Mr. Arrington's thought process on a daily basis. They should try to resign the guy. I may still have the ability to be an impact player.
It would show some maturity (on the part of all parties) and a lot of hope for the future.

Congratulations Jason and Lauren!

Funny how this is just a blog, but really feel like I know you and sincerely wish you well.

Does anyone else think Drew R was just throwing out some bait to see if the Danny would bite?

Do you feel Drew really revealed he has no respect for Danny, but rather views him as someone insistant on making the splash, having no delay gratification in his veins, etc. etc.??

What say ye?

Congrats Jason and the family! I hear Rocco and I think.....Yankee fan! Let him make up for your horrible choice for a baseball team! Just kidding of course(sort of). Best of luck and good health to the family!

Congrats Jason! Have Bryant or Maske guest blog, I need my hourly does of skins news! PLEASE!!

From the pee pee teepee website courtesy of sfskin. Perhaps this is something grilliams can work on.

Diapering Defenses
CHRISTMAS PEE PEE TEEPEES

My wife and I can't stop laughing. Definitely will be a future baby shower gift.

Joe Buck wears a pee pee teepee and a propeller hat.

Congrats LaCanfora family. Welcome to the two baby club. Glad everything went well.

if the skins wanted a stud outside lb, why didn't they just sign FA adalius thomas of baltimore.. 11 sacks last year.. patriots know how good he.. its probably going to cost them the same $$ to sign briggs, and they'd still have their # 6 pick if they just signed thomas to begin with ? am i missing something here ?
but if they're still going after briggs, why not wait until the bears price comes down.. maybe we could move down on draft day, say 12 w/packers or someone and get a 2nd, then give the bears the 2nd plus maybe our 2/3 next year instead.. if we just wait, and not be so impatient (as we always are).. the bears may realize they're going to have to take less and be happy with it..

I can't believe you suckers fell for this rumor. Briggs will be signing a new deal in Chicago soon, this rumor was to just get the Bears' panties in a bunch. Relax Skins fans... Snyder isn't that dumb.

I just wanted to congratulate the RI blog community its own bad self, for showing its true colors the past few days.

Even after a period of relative quiet up here, once the Briggs rumor was floated we rushed to the scene, like a volunteer fire brigade. All we needed was a few haikus and it would have been mid-season form. This is why we practice, people, this is what it's all about, so we're ready when the real news hits.

And then the joyous news from the La Canfora gang yields a good old outpouring of blog love, the likes of which we haven't seen in ages. Fantastic stuff.

I love this blog.

Uh oh....Nates drunk again.....pass the tissues

Not drunk, just in a mellow, expansive mood and wanting to share the vibe. Seriously, is this blog great or what? Come on, Rob, feel the love. Bask in it. Awesome.

pee pee teepee

Snyder isn't that dumb.

Posted by: D. Rosenhaus | March 27, 2007 09:57 PM
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Funniest thing I've read on this blog in months

Congratulations Jason, more-than-excellent choice on the name, hope you and the family can chill for a bit, makes for a great start.

Let us know when Chloe utters that devastating indictment of Rocco-centered life:
"I not happy, daddy... baby go 'way?"

Congrats to all of the La Canforas on a job well done. All the best to JLaC and the family.

congratulations to Jason!
...
and I hate this Briggs trade!

Snyder isn't that dumb.

Posted by: D. Rosenhaus | March 27, 2007 09:57 PM

How do I reply?
Washed up vets over the Hill getting huge salaries:
Bruce Smith
Deion Sanders
Jeff George
Brandon Lloyd
Mark Brunnell

The defense rests

Congratulations Jason, best wishes to you and your family.

Ray, I totally agree with your thesis and always enjoy piling on the Snyder, but Brandon Lloyd never had the Act One after which he could be considered washed up.

At least the other dudes in that ignominious list -- yes, even George -- had bona fide careers before they came to DC for the Last Big Paycheck.

Ok, Chris Mortenson just reported that although the Bears are irritated about the trade talks that the Redskins think once it all calms down, a trade can be done. Word from the Bears camp is: let's just wait and see.

What the hell is up with this? I can now say it definitely will happen. Can someone tell me how we are going to pay Briggs??? Guess that means Springs, Wynn, and Daniels will definitely be cut....or maybe Lemar Marshall. And then who will play CB? Do they not remember that the problems we had in the secondary last season when Springs was hurt???

I stupidly thought (or at least hoped) that Danny Boy really was not involved in selecting the players but just cannot see this being Gibbs idea - so that means that Danny Boy is still pulling the ropes - in the wrong direction.

Why can't Gibbs stand up to him????

Another surprising thing: Adam Schefter actually said this would be great for both parties.

I've had it.

Jason,

Congratulations on Rocco! Here's to a lifetime of happiness for all four of you!

That's the great news. The Redskins utter lack of discipline is something else altogether and I don't want to think about it, so I'll just be happy for you instead.

good work dude - well done

Ok I have read all I can on this possibble trade for Briggs and I have concluded that it is a completely fabricated bunch of BS by Rosie the Rumormill to put pressure on the Bears to start talking trade. I hope Gibbs is level headed enough to see past this and hold the reighns back on the other FO crazya$$es.

Lisa, Joe, everybody, it's like the roller coaster just started up again.

This time yesterday I was furious at the very thought of this possible trade for Briggs. Then I slept on it and thought, ah, it's just speculation, it's Next Question pulling a stunt, much ado about nothing. Now it looks like this is really going to happen?

As G.O.B. would say, come ON! This is freakin' ridiculous.

It doesn't make sense at all for us to sign an outside linebacker given what we know. So I have to guess the Skins are keeping something secret... Marcus Washington's condition? Their belief in RockyMac's abilities? Their belief that this defense begins and ends with the LBs?

All the goodwill of the more or less responsible offseason so far has evaporated. Poof. Gone. Ugh.

Congrats Jason.

The lack of use/respect of the NFL Draft for the Redskins is sickening me. Each deal in itself(besides the extra pick with Bailey, I never understood that) makes things seem ok - in this case we get Briggs and a good priced rookie for not overspending on somebody at #6...but..

How about we wait til we are on the clock before making this move? Never know who will be at 6, and what kinda offers could be made then.

Mr. Snyder, aka THE DANNY...there is a very advantagous thing every late April called the draft, but you don't seem to comprehend that. The draft isn't exact, but I'd rather take my chances on more young guys then less. That is how you build a consistently good team, as opposed to a usually bad one. But hey, what do I (and the Patriots, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Colts) know?

It's pretty nice to see the old characters (minus a few - Gov, HaikuMan, Paps: where are you?) come out for a good cause. Positivity rules.

Congrats La Canforas! Please do NOT read this blog any time soon (unless, of course, one of your well-placed sources calls you with info about Briggs -- hamsters need cokin' up)!

This might calm everyone down. It was from Judge at sportsline:

A source close to Washington owner Daniel Snyder on Tuesday denied the club is close to making a deal for Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs.

"Not true," he said.

Reports indicated that Washington is willing to switch first-round positions with Chicago -- sacrificing the sixth overall pick for the 31st -- to gain Briggs, the Bears' unhappy franchise player. But that's not true, either, said the source.

"That's just Drew talking," he said.

Drew is Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for Briggs, and it was he who escorted the Bears' linebacker to a table Monday night where Snyder was dining at the annual NFL owners' meetings. Also there, according to others, were Washington's vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and Baltimore owner Steve Bischiotti.

Anyway, the source said, Rosenhaus said something about how much Briggs could do for the Redskins and suggested Snyder make a deal for him. Snyder responded by saying the Redskins and Bears should switch first-round positions to gain Briggs.

"It was innocent and meant as a joke," said the source, "but it's taken off."

>>> ""It was innocent and meant as a joke," said the source, "but it's taken off.""

Hilarious. I love how this stuff works. Slow news day begets random reportage.

Stevie -- bro, I have reverted to lurking. Working in India this week. But the Briggs news has brought me back... I swear, this blog is going to be the death of me (and my job).

DC -- thanks for Inside info. Good work.

Congratulations Jason, Lauren, Chloe and Rocco!

PHOENIX, Ariz. (AP) -- The Washington Redskins have talked with the Chicago Bears about disgruntled Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs, who has threatened to sit out the 2007 season after the Super Bowl runner-ups slapped a franchise tag on him.

Various published reports said the Redskins informed the Bears they would deal their first-round pick, No. 6 overall, for the Bears' first-rounder, No. 31 overall, and Briggs, who is a two-time Pro Bowl player.

"The two teams have talked and its in their hands now," Briggs' agent Drew Rosenhaus told the Daily Southtown of suburban Chicago on Tuesday. "It's out of my hands now."

Bears general manager Jerry Angelo, in town for the NFL meetings, said:

"We will take what (the Redskins) said under consideration and we told them if there's anything on our part we would get back with them," Angelo said, adding there is no timetable for a deal.

"I'm taking it under advisement. ... I didn't come down here anticipating any of this. I'll take it under consideration and get back with them."

Briggs, a two-time Pro Bowl linebacker, would earn $7.2 million in 2007 from the Bears, the average of the five highest salaries at his position.

He met Monday with Angelo.

Copyright 2007 Associated Press.

Louisville's Pro Day - Okoye continues to impress

Amobi Okoye continued his impressive off-season with an exceptional performance at Louisville's Pro Day. Okoye, at 305 pounds, ran a 4.85 40 yard dash. This was a nice improvement over his disappointing 5.07 40 time at the combine due in part to a sore hamstring. He could be a top ten pick in April's draft and has passed Alan Branch on many draft boards as the top defensive tackle in the draft.

vpar,

Great point. If the Skins were planning all along to make a big splash at OLB, why not sign Adalius Thomas at the beginning of FA?

There is no question that Briggs will demand the same guaranteed cayyyysh AD signed for, but now it will also cost them 25 spots in the draft.

What would you rather have? AD and the 6th pick (which could easily turn into 2 very solid first day picks after a trade) OR Briggs and the 31st pick?

I just don't understand this FO.

Congrats!

By the way, congrats to JLC and family.

"We will take what (the Redskins) said under consideration and we told them if there's anything on our part we would get back with them," Angelo said, adding there is no timetable for a deal.

"I'm taking it under advisement. ... I didn't come down here anticipating any of this. I'll take it under consideration and get back with them."

Oh crap. Here comes the usual "stall for an extra draft pick" tactic used by every team that does business with the Skins. I can't wait until we throw an extra pick into the deal for no good reason. You know, kind of like we did with Portis, Brunell, Lloyd, etc...

I don't even care if it's a 7th rounder, no way do you throw another pick into the mix. But I'm sure the Bears have called Denver to laugh at, I mean discuss, how the Redskins conduct trades and are now just sitting back waiting for the Danny to flex his muscles with another one of those measley first day draft picks. Who needs those, right? Oh vey.

Drink to many happy, healthly years for you and yours JAson!!

Now, to those who think AD would have been better served as our LB pick up versus Briggs... I say AD is 32. Briggs is 25.abviously the need for another LB is an issue and the moving down 25 draft picks.

I find it interesting that everyone on both sides say that it 'is just rumors'... all of them... the same thing... someones been coaching them on the art of denial!

Speaking of Denver, I heard last night that right now they have no plans to trade Dre Bly - but the Saints keep calling about him.

Ricky Bobby, exactly. Now that the press is all over this, Angelo can sit back in the fabled catbird seat and wait and wait and wait, and say "gimme back the pick I gave you for Archuleta."

That said, and assuming this is all smoke with no fire (kind of like dry ice), the whole idea of trading within the first round to get (1) a player at a position of ACTUAL need and (2) still being able to land a top notch DE -- yesterday's updated mock drafts on nfl.com and foxsports.com projected that Anderson or Carriker would be available at the Bears #31 spot -- the whole scene looks promising if there is someone interesting in trading up to #6 and that team has either a legitimate starter they are willing to trade at DE, DT, or CB.

"Legitimate starter" does not have to equal Pro Bowler or formerly tagged player, just a guy who (1) starts, (2) does not have a history of injury from the hip down, and (3) is btwn 24-27 years old. Worth trading positions in the first round? Maybe not, but given the Skins history of undervaluing the draft, it wouldn't be surprising. Even so, it would go a long way to patching up a unit requiring some upgrades.

What's wrong with growing talent? Look at this defensive staff. If the player doesn't automatically fit in, then his career with the team is over. The staff doesn't even try to make it work out or help the guy. (ex Lavar, Archeletta, Trotter, Rocky) Briggs maybe good, but can we trust this defensive staff to make good use of him? This is why the defense is getting worse every year. They need to stop acting like they are only one player away.

Congrats Jla & family, welcome young Rocco.

On the Briggs deal, is there enough money for this? Can we still draft a corner and a rush end or 3 technique d-tackle if we take Briggs and move down? Wouldnt the Briggs deal mean not enough cash available for keeping Springs, plus signing our draft picks? I shudder at the thought of anvil hands Rogers plus...Ade Jimoh at corner, we'd need a new league rule allowing DB's to ride Vespa scooters in coverage.....

I still don't feel super comfortable with our defensive back situation or defensive line situation. Over on offesnive-line it seems like we got a couple vets to patch up the departure of ol' what;s his name millionaire, but probably need to re-stock a decent guard prospect there too.

My overall impression of the front office having a new "restraint" policy in free-agency/ draft dealing, is one of an addict, trying like crazy to resist temptation, but on the cell phone checking prices for the old habits.

A few reasons why they didn't target Adalius Thomas. He plays in a 3-4. The 'skins also hadn't restructured all their deals or cut all their vets. Also, if this deal happens its because they think the upgrade is worth the consequences. They hadn't looked to upgrade the position but now they're considering. I agree with most that it shouldn't warrant consideration, but they are or they're posturing.

Congrats Jason. That is terrfic!

Re Briggs, it is such a bad move in so many ways (as a number of you have detailed). I just hope the Skins don't make the deal.

Defensive line should be the priority now.

" ... I shudder at the thought of anvil hands Rogers plus...Ade Jimoh at corner, ..."

Posted by: Down-Town-Clown | March 28, 2007 08:59 AM

People forget that Rogers broke his thumb in Week 6. Two screws in his thumb. He was out Week 7. Week 8 was the bye week. He was back on the field for Week 9, playing nearly every down till the end of the season. Given the skill level (or more accurately, not skill) of Wright, Rumph, Jimoh at CB, Rogers HAD to play and play through the injury, which seems like an important one for a CB. Rogers should not be judged on his sophomore season.

Jimoh is not a corner. When they cut Stoutmire, Garnell Wilds, and that other guy (name escapes me), they knew that Jimoh was never going to be able to play corner. He is on the team b/c the team sees special teams as a separate unit, not as an assignment to set up between possessions. Of the bright spots of this past season (there was one?), special teams was it. Jimoh is on the roster for special teams ONLY. His position appears on the roster as CB b/c they don't have position titles for special teamers.

Can we have a little perspective please. This deal has not happened. All that has happened is that there are "rumors" out there, being fueled MOSTLY, by Drew Rosencrap. Lets try and keep perspective.

All we need now is the people still whining about not keeping Pierce to start in, and I'll shove a pencil in my eye.

How many of these rumors have we entertained? Trading for Dre Bly, trading up for Calvin Johnson, trading up for Jamarcus Russell, trading down for Briggs.

Are there other teams that generate such an active rumor flow? I guess that with the present front office, all of them are credible.

If the Skins (read, the $nyder) really do (does) salivate about the Bears defense and are ready to pay some guy a gajillion dollars, then they (he) should go after free agent DT Ian Scott. Surprises me that Scott is still available after Round One of free agency and that Round Two has gotten this far without him signing.

At least this rumored deal is on the right side of the ball, I haven't heard we are talking about our 1st and next year's 2nd for Randy Moss.

I don't care who we sign, draft cut or keep, we just need to be right.

My overall impression of the front office having a new "restraint" policy in free-agency/ draft dealing, is one of an addict, trying like crazy to resist temptation, but on the cell phone checking prices for the old habits.

Props to Down-Town-Clown for putting the Skins FO in perspective. Sad, but so, so true...

Adam

Panthers' safety Mike Minter announced he is retiring at the end of the season. Panthers pick at #14. To me, that means they might be interesting in trading up to where they need to get in order to draft LaRon Landry. Several mocks project Landry as the top defensive player available in the draft. If that translates into Panthers going for him at #6 (and the Skins, biting my tongue, would pass on Landry), then #14 plus a player or the second round pick could mean a solid year to come.

For those who wonder whether we could afford the cap hit by signing Briggs, consider: When talks broke off between Briggs and the Bears they were talking about 7 years at 33M. That averages less than 5M per year. And with a prorated signing bonus and base salary back loaded the 2007 cap hit wouldn't be more than 3M. And when you figure there are other players on the team who could restructure it's clear the Skins can do this without breaking the bank. They won't have to cut Spings and they can still extend Cooley. The only question is whether they can get someone good for the DL at 31. (Perhaps the thing to do is keep the pick and take Okoye.) The main thing I want to see is them not trading any 2008 picks.

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I think we need to focus on Dline, not LB!

I like the idea of dcsween and the panthers. THAT would make a lot of sense!

Still think that secondary is the Skins position of greatest need, but if the Skins can swap with the Panthers and wind up with 2 solid DTs, this does make a lot of sense.

It also might hurt the Iggles. I can't see how adding anyone from the Colts D who is not named Dwight or Bob could help your defensive unit. I think that part of the rationale for trading Darwin Walker may have been that there were/are enough DTs in the current draft that Darwin could be replaced via a mid to high draft pick.

Adam

DCSween - Did Rogers have broken thumbs when he could have intercepted that ball in Seattle 15 months ago?????????

Next Question!

So Skinfanman has put the Cap in perspective..... so if the skins do this, then there are some moves in the making, as others have suggested.

Marshall always played above his actual skill level (something Grilliams is great at doing). The only two players who were good in his system and moved to another team and did almost as well as they did here were Clark and Pierce. So he may be gone. Harris actually did better outside our system as will AA, i suspect.

Washington has the same hip issues other NFL'ers have lost their carrer over. So maybe we actually need to TRUST their decisions. I know that is asking a lot, but we do not know the whole situation and our speculation is not through clear glass.

The post about McIntosh and the Pats scouting of him opens some eyes. Our college scouts dont know S... and it is obvious.

That is why FA's always made more sense to me since you have actual NFL film and experience to reply on in leiu of acutal scouting. I know the ends do not justlfy the means, but it is also the case of lesser of the two evils

dcsween - I agree with ES. The only interception he had last season came in week 15, after his injury. I like his toughness, but he can't catch worth sh*t...

Extreme Skins, playoff game in his freshman season, its a little different. Also, I wasn't asking a question.

Secondary is NOT the area of biggest need!!!!!! Especially if Springs stays....

You could have D Green, Dion, Ronnie Lott and Sean-Tay in the secondary and if you dont get front 4 push it wouldnt means Siht!!!!!!!!!!!

From John Clayton on ESPN scam "insider"

Bears say 'No' to Briggs deal
posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 | Print Entry

The Bears are saying no to a Lance Briggs trade to Washington. That stand won't change during this week's owners meeting, but don't be surprised if they take the weekend and the early part of next week to study the concept.
The Redskins are willing to drop from No. 6 in the first round to No. 31 in a trade for the Bears linebacker. The Bears biggest problem is feeling bullied, which is why their initial position is "No."

Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has a great relationship with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, so it's no surprise he could use Snyder to shake up the Bears. The other problem is the Bears don't want to draft as high as No. 6. Still, this might be an interesting offer for a franchise player threatening to miss 10 regular season games. Give them the weekend to think about it.

I read a couple posts that made it seem like the Bears would be in a position of power re a trade. The only way I'd agree with that is if it's based on the incompetence of our FO. Briggs is going to be a malcontent unless he gets a trade or new deal. He is threatening to sit out the first 10 games of the year and play the last 6 so it counts as a year played under NFL rules. It's almost the same as the Deion Branch situation last year. He sat out and NE finally realized they needed to deal him. We need to walk away and keep our pick or trade down on draft day.

By the way if we stay at #6 it is starting to sound like this Okoye kid may be the way to go.

I'm not denying that Rogers dropped nearly a dozen catches that touched both hands, I'm just saying that there could be a reason for that other than that he lacks the natural ability.

[Same thing with T.O. who -- as much as I dislike -- is still a tremendous athelete. A receiver with no use/mobility in his ring finger is at a disadvantage when it comes to hanging onto the ball. If they CAN fix the tendon in T.O.'s finger, then he's going to drop far fewer passes.]

Double-Move deserves a mulligan on last year. He is still young, was hurt, was on a bad defense, the QB/WRs had all day b/c no pass rush, no safety help, limited starter exp, was playing opposite speed bump and other hacks.....

Lets judge him on next years performance he could still be part of the solution not the problem...

Sween;

I agree on Rodgers. It is always the third year to make your grade on a player. It really doesnt matter to me anyway... I think Smoot takeS THE #2 corner spot when Springs is healthy.

I'm with you guys on the mulligan for Double move. But if I see the same type of coverage and excuses or dancing after giving up an 8 yard gain my opinion will change quickly.

DCS - there are a lot of dudes who play CB rather than WR. And that is because they can't catch.

One other thought. As far as Rocky McIntosh goes I watch a lot of Miami football. He was one of the former Hurricane players I was not that excited about getting. Ok player but never really stood out. I also didn't realize we gave up a 6th as well in that deal. Hopefully he develops but since he couldn;t crack the lineup over Holdman I have some questions.

PDSquared, the pats front office did the following:
Traded a 2nd and 3rd for Chad Jackson
Traded a 1st and 3rd for Daniel Graham
Used a 2nd round pick on Bethel Johnson
Used a 2nd round pick on Marquis Hill

Our scouts don't know S?

Please explain Kedrick Golston? - Not bad for a 6th round pick, wouldn't you say?
Please explain Chris Cooley? - Sure we had to trade a 2nd round pick to get him, but he's turned out to be well worth it.
Macintosh started 2 games last year and had 17 tackles. But you're ready to dump him? WOW, just WOW. Try some perspective. Lets actually let Rocky PLAY A SEASON'S WORTH OF GAMES, before we dump him.

PDSquared - wouldn't be too sure about Smoot taking that #2 corner. Remember, he's now entering the Greggilligan defensive scheme, which will apparently turn any DB with some level of talent into a wandering, totally lost schmuck that's lining up 10 yards behind the line, just to give themselves enough time to (a) figure out how to react to the read according to the scheme and (b) fight down every instinct they've had outside the Williams system. Rogers' advantage (if you can call it that) is that he's got a few year's head start - and as mentioned already, we all know what happens when you don't figure out this system quickly...

All I'm saying is that its too early to label Rogers as a bust in pass coverage/interception potential.

That said, he is still worthy of ridicule, like cL and cdubb imply, for the celebrations when receivers drop the ball based in NO WAY on Rogers' efforts, plus the stupid line about "no way" to cover a double move. Until he does prove himself, he still keeps the label Double Move. This year, however, he just needs to show he's capable of playing the #2 spot.

PDSquared - "It is always the third year to make your grade on a player."

I guess Rocky doesn't even deserve a second year...

Pass rush Pass rush. Remember Charles and Dexter. I'd love to see Gaines Adams coming off the end and putting pressure on the QB. Do not trade this pick Dannyboy. Maybe we could get at least ten sacks as a team this year

If the Skins are going to do musical chairs at LB, it seems like Rocky should be the one they hang onto (with Lemar and Evans in the hot seat). My question mark about RockyMac is that he had to have knee surgery shortly after he was drafted and then again this off-season. Bad wheels at OLB got me spooked ever since watching the rise and fall of LaVar.

Greg;

I was saying that the Pats scouts pointed out something about Rocky that ours did not. I was not making a comment on any of their other moves, just that scouting report.

As for Golston, great for a 6th, Cooley, great for a third. I should say our first round picks have me scratching my head. That Rodgers was valued way lower, Campbell 2nd round, but the Jury is still out on them.

Taylor still needs to come back to from this year or he might be a waste at 5th (see Bob Sanders in the 2nd round)

But Rocky does need to show something, but all signs based upon this trade is that through practice and limited game film, he was a BAD pick at #35.

So yes, I will admit an overall generalization, but I still think our FA's have been better than Drafted players. Our scouts find players they like and we give away later round picks to make questionable ones in the first/second round.

That said, they have this year to reddem themselves, getting more picks and moving down, taking a stud DE with 6th, etc.... but they still need to prove they know what they are doing.

Secondary is NOT the area of biggest need!!!!!! Especially if Springs stays....

You could have D Green, Dion, Ronnie Lott and Sean-Tay in the secondary and if you dont get front 4 push it wouldnt means Siht!!!!!!!!!!!

CL, I'm sorry, but if you can't cover anyone, unless your DL is 4 straight up MFing beasts, they're not going to have enough time to stack the QB, nor will they have much help in run support (i.e. no way in hell one can play 8 in the box). It's been a long time since anyone has thought much of the Eagles DL (especially up the middle), but with 2 All Pros in the secondary, Jim Johnson can stack the box, blitz from all sorts of angles, and make the D look pretty respectable.

Assuming Shawn Springs actually plays for the Skins this year (i.e. isn't cut, traded, or injured for a significant portion of the season), the secondary doesn't look nearly as horrid as it did last year. Maybe expecting a full 16 games out of Springs is a risk the Redskins are willing to take, but I don't think it's a very smart one.

Adam

Skinz;

The scouting report on Rocky showed he should be a 4th... maybe a 3rd. Rodgers was a first rounder, expected to start right away.

Yes Rocky should get a better chance, but a valued 4th rounder being anything more than a role player/special teamer means his leash to get the more simple aspects of the game is shorter.

PDsquared sounds like a complete moron. Is he in the skins front office? if not he'd fit right in!!! loser

How is Rocky a bad pick at #35? What could possibly lead you to this generalization? Take these factors into consideration:
Rookies RARELY start in Gregg W's system.
When he did start 2 games, he was 2nd on the team in tackles versus the Rams, and 3rd on the team in tackles versus the Giants?
But he's a bad pick. Lets do this. Lets gather a LARGER BODY OF WORK, to make GENERALIZATIONS on.

bornskinsfan;

Good point. I see your arguement.

Why dont you make an attempt to back up your statements? Oh thats right, you just yap off at the jaw w/o bringing any real points, stats or coherant thought.

I was the one who posted that thing yesterday re: New England and RockyMac. It was not a report from NE scouts. It was from a Patriots fan site. Some fan, who also apparently followed the U closely, was just giving his (or her) opinions about RockyMac's college career.

Thanks for clarifying that, DC, I was just thinking it was a fan's perspective.

Greg;

The coaches see him in practice every day. We do not. Obviously, if he is the one to go, they did not like what they saw/ that he was not worth a second rounder.

That is assuming this trade happens and he goes. If he doesn't and he starts and plays well, great. But my generalization is based upon the rumor and trying to find logic in it. There seems to be more there that we dont know about one of our 3 LB's that seems to be leaving if this trade happens.

So whether it is Marshall going, Washingtons injury or Rocky MAc's skill remains to be seen. But after Holman STRUGGLED so bad and his back up was rocky and he did not see action until the end of the year, how can we not look at that and glean some generalizations, or theories?

Shanahan talks about Bly in this morning's Denver Post. http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5534811

I used to think I understood the English language, but something Shanahan said about offseason conditioning makes me question that. Anybody have any idea what he means when he says, "Voluntary is very close to mandatory, but it's not the same." I'm not sure what he means by the terms "very" or "close".

PD, you're one to talk. You read something about what someone on a pats website said about Rocky, and you take it as Gospel? Try backing your point up with something else.

NFL Draft Countdown had Rocky going to Detroit at pick #40.
They also had him as the #50 rated player out of 300.
Again, lets give the guy a chance to PROVE HIMSELF.

Ok Sween, I did not realize it was a fan.

But the point still remains, why did Rocky not get in sooner with Holdman struggling? ST started for him as a rook. Rodgers did as well.

So something does not add up.

PDSuared, all of these fascinating points you bring up, you might as well label them PATSTATS

Adam,

First of all I discount your opinion on all matters due to your NFL team of choice....

BUT I am not saying yoou need deacon jones, charles man, butz and Reggie White BUT you do need a legit and consistant push from your front 4.

The Eagles have had lunch pail and good D linemen, all pros maybe not but dudes who allow the secondary to be succsessful so dont use them as an example. You put the Eagles, admittedledy good, secondary players on some D lines the skins have thrown out the last 7-10 years and believe me they would look a bit more mortal....

Sorry Sween - But you appear like a 'Double Move' apologists. I am not talking about last year. I am talking about a INT getting taken to the house while Alexander was knocked out of the game that could have propelled us to the NFC Championship. NO Excuses.

Pacman Jones - On the Field - was drafted in the same year and he is BEASTING out - when on the field.

I am not saying Rogers is a lost cause, but this is the make or break year to s