Typically bad Skins pick. Then again, since we'll have 3 total team sacks this season, might as well load up on DBs. 7-9?

how are landry and taylor different? seem like the same player to me.

People bashing the pick need to take a step back. We are probably not 1 player away. Okoye would have taken some time to develop. None of the DL prospects were worthy of #6. Coverage next year will be so much better allowing blitzes from all over. Landry would look a whole lot better if we had picks in the 2nd and 3rd to get a DE/DT and a G to replace Dockery. So you can blame the FO for that but lets not bash this kid till we see him play.

If I were a player getting ready to be drafted, I want nothing more than to go to San Diego, San Francisco, or New York. DC and Miami are okay, but those three cities are where I want to be a millionaire with a fancy pants car or loft.

Are we at 50,000 yet?

Trade ya the #22 for your 2008 #2 and Santana Moss.

Maybe Brady will be available when the Bears pick. Then this would all work out for him. Of course, his girlfriend would be long gone by No. 31....

Posted by: Cindy | April 28, 2007 02:14 PM

I'm still chuckling over your comments, Cindy. : )

Here, here. cdubb

We passed it last evening, P. Nate and MV Dame drove the numbers crazy.

mdh, what would you have done? No trade opportunities really came through. They wanted to trade back but couldn't. JLC said it, they took the best playmaker to help a D that didn't make plays.

sigh, they are different in many ways but their strengths are similar (strong, fast, explosive).

Listen to the experts people, the BEST defensive player in this draft and we got him. Besides acquiring a bunch of picks, this is the best scenario for us to help our D. Were you all ready to go to war with Vernon Fox? Okoye is a child who will need years to grow into his body and become and NFL player. Are you ready to wait that long? I'm not.

Welcome L2.

Maybe the Giants can draft Brady Quinn and then trade LBM to Indy to be a backup for BBM.

I missed the final countdown to 50,000 what were the highlights?

Nice early call on Landry, AMTTS. Congratulations!

So where are you today? Medicine Hat?

Is it possible for the skins to use a nickel package all the time and put either landry or Taylor closer to the line... more of a 'rover' (like a college SS)?

How many DBs do we have? Smoot, Rodgers, Springs, Jimoh, Pierson, Macklin, ST, Landry, etc. That's overkill. Until we find some way to pressure the QB, it's mediocre city. This whole operation really makes you think Snyder caught lightning in a bottle once to gain his fortune and has gotten progressively dumber since. HIRE A GM! This team is beyond frustrating.

chris Larry:

The highlights on the way to 50K were mostly lowlights - lots of Wizards and Nats chat, and requests for the updated number of posts.

ugh.....bruce smith...i am suprised he didnt the wide outside angle to the podium...

I hope someone tells Marshawn Lynch to never mention Toronto again.

nats...wizards.....boring....

Next year will rest on the health and pep of Corn Dog and Phillip Daniels with Carter proving last 6 games of last year was no fluke...

Gibbs better let Griffin and Daniels chill this offseason

I just realized that we're going to piss away so much $$$ on the safety position...no wonder we suck

Go Skins:

Theoretically, the Skins could play a 3-3-5 defense, since there isn't any pass rush anyway. I don't know how effective it would be, however.

The rover system works well in college because the average skill level is much lower overall. Polamalu of Pittsburgh is probably the best-known and only safety being used like a college rover on a regular basis.

Does this give us the highest paid secondary in the league?

You heard it here first. The Redskins will aquire New Englands second first rounder and select a DE or DT.

Great improvement for our secondary, which badly needed it.

well, this almost guarantees that sean taylor won't be around next year.

this old man's gotta leave town.

really, i've been curbing my criticism of joe and vinny cuz i thought they'd do something smart in the draft but nope. instead they did exactly what people wanted them to do.

get out joe! we were better off without you!

it'll be rookie leading the blind in the secondary.

this is sickening!

Attention Cindy!!!

Loseable Type is losing some of our posts again. It started yesterday and continues today. I just lost my third one for this morning.

Sorry I couldn't be with you the last two days on the March of the Penguins to 50k. I think Brady's girlfriend sees the size of her diamond shrinking with each pick. At this rate, she's getting this:
http://www.diamondnexuslabs.com/jewelry/product_info.php?cPath=112&products_id=863&osCsid=jhf4m2bbjbah31229ot9tsf9t3

i had no idea brady was 6 '3" he looks like he's 5'10".

chicago should take him. and he needs to get up out of that seat before that though.

Too bad Alan Branch isn't in NYC. He and Quinn could have gone out and had a long lunch this afternoon.

Too funny, Cindy! LMGO!!!

(Your karma is going to be very very bad, by the way.) : )

cindy, ocho, mean stuff!

They actually whisked him away, to the Matt Leinert Room, so the agony won't be broadcast.

btw, who was the 50Kth pick last night?

It's the Aaron Rodgers room

Okoye was the pick to make. We don't need two Sean Taylor's even if Landry was the best defensive player in the draft. Okoye is a 300 pound, four year starter, who was chosen team captain by his teammates and graduated college by the age of 19. Anyone who says his age is problem isn't looking at the facts. He'd be an immediate impact player, who'd cause enough havoc inside to open up the pass rush. Hopefully Landry and SeanTay will work together, but even Gibbs in his press conference didn't seem sure it would work.

TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey dealer!

Mean? nahhhhhhhhhhh . . .

I hope the Jets didn't move up to take Quinn; if so, the fans will burn down the place.

I gave up my primo seat on the train back to DC last night to a couple with a baby, so I got a little karma to burn...but not much.
Loseable Type issues duly reported!

charles, i agree. i couldn't believe my eyes when it said he was a SENIOR at the age of 19. and he's an ATHLETE!!! and the BEST!

OMG!!! why couldn't the skins make that trade!!!!!!!!!!!!! F this FO!!!!!!!!!!

For those people that are saying this is a great pick because he was the best player on the board, I ask this: Would we have taken Jamarcus Russel if he had somehow fallen to 6? We need to address our needs, not take the flashy/sexy/best player on the baord. Especially without another pick until round 5. Landry seems like a good player, perhaps one day great (you can never tell), but will he make the Redskins a better team?

Eisen just said "they better come correct here".

JLaC's influence expands exponentially!

Okay, with that Brady-less move, I now feel really sorry for Quinn. And his girlfriend. I can mock no more.

ahh that's nice cindy. that should buy you a couple more diggs at the golddigger...

Cindy,

I think you burned up that little bit of karma with that 4K faux diamond. : )

14th pick and 6th rounder for 25th pick and 2nd rounder AND 5th rounder.

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

WTF is the skins FO doing????????!!!!!!!!

Maybe Green Bay trades Rodgers to Oakland for Moss, and then drafts Quinn to hold Favre's clipboard for awhile.

He gets out of the PacMan room now and she won't need a big ring living on the tundra later.

Seriously. They're treating Quinn like he's made of Kryptonite! And he's now Mel Kiper's best player available. He's gotta go soon.

in other words why didn't they make that trade????????????

LOL@the jets fans! their first reaction was "who?"

Well, at least Radio City Music Hall is safe for another year.

I like the idea of the Draft being held in Philly, and seeing the fans there throwing batteries at Chris Berman. (Going, Going . . . GONE!!!)

Jets fans are idiots.

I miss the Ol' Ball Coach. :-)

Maybe chicago wanted landry ?.. and the skins want to make sure the player they want is there when the 31st pick comes.. and they then make the trade with chicago ? what u think ??

2 picks in the first two rounds and a 5th rounder! i'm gonna throw up.

"STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!" VINNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd feel sorry for Quinn if he hadn't gone on all these interviews the past couple weeks self promoting and acting like a pompous jerkoff.

Lee - Drafting Russell would have been idiotic since we have Campbell at QB. If you don't think secondary was a need on this team I don't think you have been following. It is a shame we have many more needs than picks.

hey, who knows, maybe L2 can bring a little maturity and super-intelligence along. It has happened before.

dealer,

the Jets only made that trade to keep the Steelers from taking Revis at #15. They didn't want anyone at #6 apparently.

You can't trade down if no one else wants the slot.

they had no offers!!

vpar57, that would've been a possiblity but st. joe has already spoken for the day...so...i doubt it... chicago doesn't needa nother safety. HOWEVA detroit does

AMTTS is in a hotel lobby in Edmonton. I screamed aloud when my do L2 became a member of my family. What a joyous feeling. The BEST defensive player available. How people aren't thrilled with this is beyond me.

cdubb:

I agree about the russell statement, but that was my point about taking "The best player available." We have needs all over the defense, but the most pressing need seems to be the D line, not the secondary. We could have picked anywhere and that player would have filled a need, but the most pressing need, the place where a precious, rare draft pick would have helped the most, is defensive line. in my opinion....

f the ole ball coach....

chill out dealer jeez...

The Bears didn't want the #6 pick because they are cheap and didn't want to pay big bucks for a draft pick. Now that Landry is a #6 pick, he will be paid like one, regardless of whether he stays or is traded.

amtts, people aren't thrilled cuz it does nothing to improve skins D. like someone said this just means that the skins secondary will be leading the league in tackles made!

and BITES!!!!

Way to rep DC in the Great White North, AMTTS!!!

I've heard the biggest tourist attraction there is the Edmonton Mall. Ugh. Hope you get out of there soon.

What the hell is this.... RUSHEEEEEEEEEEE

I hate this organization. I will burn my season tickets the moment I get them.

How does taking the best defensive player in the draft not help them? Of course they need DL help but nobody was worth the # 6 pick. Did you want them to pull a Miami and waste a high pick on a player that is no where near worth that pick just on need?

chris larry, why should i chill out? i just saw 4K of my hard earned money go down the drain. why should i chill out? cuz all of a sudden nfl is going to allow QB's to throw 2 balls? they had a "ball hawk" already.

sorry...chris, don't take it personally my venom is for this team owner and the FO.

RB,

I'll give you a dime bag and a 6-pack for them. What do you say?

Lee - I hear you. DL is in major need of some youth and upgrading. In all honesty, none of us are going to know how this pans out for some time. Okoye and Anderson could turn out to be pro bowl players or busts. I guess the Skins we just trying to go with what they felt was the safest pick and value where we were drafting. And we certainly have the right to be skeptical based on their track record. Personally I think our success is going to hang mostly on the development of #17.

The Skins need to save their 2008 picks so they have a chance to grab Derrick Harvey next year.

dealer, how does this not make our defense better. We needed help in the secondary too and Landry is much more worthy of the number six overall pick then Okoye.

Suzy Kolber is interviewing Brady Quinn as if his entire family has just been killed. Sure, going to Radio City was a colossal mistake, but come on! He's gonna play in the NFL and make a boatload of dough.

C'mon Green Bay - Draft Brady Quinn!!!

cdubb,

I also think it doesn't matter what the pick is or was, with the current front office very few fans would have been satisfied (me included.)

If we offer Mighty Might in a trade package, do you think we could pick up some extra draft picks? We have to get rid of the little emperer somehow!

I agree Cindy its ridiculous that she is acting like its the end of the world for Brady Quinn. He'll be a rich nfl qb. Stop feeling sorry for him.

Poor Brady - another team passed on him.

And Alan Branch just got dissed again.

They should have gone to lunch together.

If you read the post's articles about the Ravens "Pick the best available play policy" it is sound. I agree we need 2 more starters on DL, but I think we need to trade our 6-6-7 picks for a 2 or 3 rnd pick.

They should do an extra first-round pick for him.

Well maybe we will be treated to the rumor of Vinny getting canned after the draft though I doubt it. I don't like Snyder since he treats the NFL as his personal fantasy league but am glad he isn't a tightwad like some of these other teams. If he would ever bend and get a NFL caliber GM we would probably be making the playoffs every year like the Colts, Pats, Eagles, etc.

A pack of 10 year old Packer fans booing Justin Harrell cracked me up. Probably got no idea who he is.

agree.. probably not.. but i was really hoping we'd come out with at least 2 top players today.. bumming out here.. i'll tell you, all that pre draft talk is all a bunch of bull..

How many people up here were screaming for us to draft Branch a few weeks ago? I guess he is not that "well liked".

Ricky Bobby and Dealer sell your tix please, you guys act like the sky is falling 24/7, get a new tune already. I don't even disagree with you per se but c'mon I have seen the Skins make way worse moves. Last time I checked you do play two safeties and to say LL is like AA is ridiculous. Alls you dudes do is act like the FO raped ur dog, like a personal affront. Yeah there inept, dont get the tix its choice not a judical sentence....

The Titans should take him 'cause Vince Young has that Madden curse hanging over him. Norm Chow would work well with him.

LaRon Landry. Wow. I am ecstatic. Do not overthink people. We got the best defensive player in the draft, and a nasty safety. Just think about what this allows our defense to do. Think about our advantages on running plays, when you can bring Sean Taylor up in the box and now LaRon Landry is back there. We will have Springs, Rogers and Smoot at corner. We now have the equivalent of the T1000 in our Secondary. Liquid metal.

I now am infatuated with Alan Branch. How do we get him. I want him. How can we go and get him.

After reading all those mock drafts last night, I don't remember one that didn't have Brady Quinn in the top 10. Prisco had him as the best QB and first pick. Most mocks had him going to Cleveland at #3. It makes you wonder whether these feature columnists have all the reliable sources they claim.

Hey, RBD. Congrats on being #50K!!!

'I think I should be the #1 pick in the draft'. Welcome to the NFL Brady Quinn.

LOL - Quinn to the Titans and the Madden Curse.

You're on a roll today, Cindy. Must be that NYC influence, huh?

After picking up Warrick Holdman yesterday, I'm surprised Denver even bothered to show up for the draft today. After all, who else could they possibly need???

: )

Thanks
not worthy - just lucky I guess

Sleep deprivation, Ocho.
If Tony were here, he'd say that Brady Quinn is Typhoid Mary! I don't really think Tennessee will take him, but maybe the Cowboys?

I agree with Chris Larry....chill out. All the NFL experts think Landry will be the bomb - and while that does not guarantee they are right, they know a hell of lot more than we do. We had two choices: Landry or Okoye. It's a toss up either way. The Skins tried to trade for more picks and could not.

It amazes me that you all continally complain about the $$$ of your season tickets but continue to buy them. Don't buy them. Watch the from home....or at a bar...or not at all.

Oh, and I'm sure Okoye would have been a season changing player for us. He would have saved the 07-08 season. Get real. Maybe in a few years.

With the 18th pick, The Cincinnati Bengals select a Bail Bondsman.

With the 18th pick, The Cincinnati Bengals select a Bail Bondsman.

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | April 28, 2007 03:35 PM

LMAO

I've been learning to love LaRon Landry for about four months up here, hearing stories of his glories from The Governor and ArtMonkToTheSticks.

I set aside my laser-focus on defensive line, which I thought should be our #1 concern this offseason. I came to trust that things will be better on this defense if we draft Landry because he is a playmaker, a difference-maker, who will elevate everyone else's game.

I fought my way through the valleys of despair as the front office flirted with this and that free agent, with Denver for Bly and Chicago for Briggs, with trading up for Calvin J.

I am so very, very happy we picked Lando in this draft. I can't wait for him to be back there with the Reaper this fall. This is going to be great.

HAIL!

big news fro RI draft day convo:

Chris larry and lisa agree!

Cindy,

I don't think the Cowboys would take him - it would screw with Romo's head too much. Maybe Carolina at 25, Philly at 26, or Baltimore at 29. Chicago at 31 looks like the last chance for him if all else fails.

Nate! You finally made it! (You missed P Diddy.)

Must have been a 50K hangover?

NFLN is saying maybe at #23/Kansas City for Brady Quinn.

Time to make the move for Bobby McCray, the remaining viable unsigned FA DE. Agent is NEXT QUESTION. Just need ONE more D-lineman and we're good to go till this time next year (when we definitely need the other D-lineman and a corner). Also, tomorrow they need to find a return man.

AMMTS, you've been in Canada for quite a while now. Is there something you're not telling us? Johnny Law looking for you?

So far, I consider this weekend not a screwup. This means they can afford Springs and no other major salary threats from other quarters. I'm still good with their behavior this offseason.

Still, off with Vinny's head for past transgressions.

ya know,

with Branch falling why not trading next year's number 1 this year........force us to look deeper next year, save some money next year for cooly/taylor....and maybe we could add a player (springs?) and also pick up 3/4th...

Can't someone make a pity pick?
Rich Campbell sez Baltimore ain't gonna take him.

I think KC should draft Brady Quinn, and then play a double white-meat wishbone with Brady Quinn and Brodie Coyle. Brady and Brodie! Quinn and Coyle! The flopping stringy hair coming out of the helmet would be distracting.

Rich and I were just talking about Brady to KC.

I'm fine with Landry as long as they get more bodies for the defensive line through the draft, other people's June cuts, etc. That's what the front office is good at. Creative capology.

Congrats to eveyone on the 50k. This Brady Quinn thing is weird to say the least. Landry is a beast, 4 year starter on a championship level team. Oh, and for those of you looking for a break from the draft, may I suggest Nikki Benz, what a star. Continues to shine. What a talent.

Only #32 can make a pity pick.

It would be morbidly funny to see Cleveland take Quinn - in the 2nd round. (If he lasts until the 2nd round, the 4K faux diamond is off the table.)

The NFLN is saying that Cleveland wants to trade up and get Quinn.

Nate, if I can wrangle a spot at Harvey's, you've got tix and a beer on me. We shall cheers to L2. We know have 2 components in our defensive backfield of the 5 necessary to form Bruticus.

Sean Teezee: Onslaught
L2= Vortex

Thanks, Lisa - I missed that.

Who gets picked earlier Quinn and Branch?

I think KC should draft Brady Quinn, and then play a double white-meat wishbone with Brady Quinn and Brodie Coyle. Brady and Brodie! Quinn and Coyle! The flopping stringy hair coming out of the helmet would be distracting.

Posted by: J-Red | April 28, 2007 03:44 PM

LMGO!!!

Seriously, if it gets anywhere near Baltimore's pick at 29 and Quinn still hasn't gone, the Browns will have to make a move with NE to jump ahead. The Ravens would take Quinn in a heartbeat.

Dang, HaikuMan and Bangbros making appearances up here. This feels like a reunion!

Yeah, was completely exhausted from the move and the march to 50k. I took Nathan Jr. to the zoo this morning and heard from a dude in a Bucs shirt about their trade up for CJ. Good, I thought, that means we're not trading up for CJ. But I didn't know what we did until I got home, since the stupid local sports radio dudes weren't giving a full recap.

Relief, tremendous relief. We didn't get Calvin Johnson, we didn't trade for Briggs, we got the best D player in this draft... if we can pull off something wonderful here and pick up Branch without sacrificing our #1 next year, that would be icing on this very delicious cake.

Who gets drafted first? Branch or Quinn? Quinn or Branch?

Good question, really. I don't have a clue.

AMTTS, I'll be there when you hit Harvey's, you know this. And there are some other RI peeps in the PDX, as it happens, so we may have a posse.

And if anybody should dare to heckle, I'll bust out the LaRon Landry imitation I've been working on and clobber him.

Ocho-Ocho, I agree that Cowboys would not want to mess with Romo's head by taking Quinn. But they may trade down with Cleveland and couple of other teams at the top of the second round, who might want to get him?

What's up with those reports of Branch having stress fractures in his legs? Was that just BS being sprayed by teams hoping he would fall? Maybe it was us....wait we're not that smart.

I think the Cowboys need to stay at #22 and get CB/Safety help, or WR help. I can't see them trading down.

Just giddy with the thought that the Reaper won't be the last line of our defense, he'll be the NEXT TO LAST guy you have to worry about. And you will definitely be filled with worry after you catch that ball. Because there's another freight train right behind him who will destroy you.

"Mr. Shockey, our customer service representative will be with y-- Mr. Shockey? Mr. Shockey? Are you still there? Oh, it sounds like you've already been helped."

I miss having teevee sometimes, but not that often.

It is tough to miss Brady Quinn, Medicine Woman on the brink of tears as he plummets down the big board.

cdubb,

Apparently there is a fine line between stress fractures and shin splints, according to experts who saw his x-ray film. I also read that it is somewhat common for large-sized linemen to have the condition. However, adding that uncertainty to other issues that were raised about him apparently created a situation where many teams decided to pass on him. Someone will grab him - the guy has too much potential.

Nate,

He's been crying for more than three hours now. He's probably well into his second bottle of artificial tears.

So is there any action at the Park (Jason?) to make a move so we have another pick today?

I wonder if we did that, if we'd focus on O line or D line. Very, very interesting indeed. But I guess it's all speculation at this point?

if cowgirls pick Quinn that would rule...

Is Quinn paying for Rick Mier's sins?

if cowgirls pick Quinn that would rule...

Is Quinn paying for Rick Mier's sins?

Perhaps Quinn is paying for Thiesmann's, Mirer's and Powlus' sins.

Looks like RI weathered the troll attack which occurred just after the Lando pick, just as Lisa predicted.

It wasn't as bad as troll attacks in the past, I guess. Just random rants about the pick.

I'm more concerned with Ricky Bobby, dealer and other regulars who hate this pick and fired up the season ticket regrets and front office loathing. Dudes, let's just see how this D works in the fall before we kick in the doom and gloom.

LOL - The Ghost of the Golden Dome: Rick Mirer.

The Browns are about to make the worst trade since Herschel Walker. Trade down Trade down!

F Skins fans that bash Thiesmannn

Maske sez Cleveland is offering third-round pick this year and next year's first-round pick to the 'Boys right now...and would take Quinn.

The Browns are on the phone right now talking to the Cowboys. They are offering the Cowboys their 3rd round pick this year and 1st round next year for the Cowboys first this year - so that they can move up and can get Quinn.

J-Red,

Theismann has a Super Bowl ring. Do you?

Here's how smart the Draft Experts were. Through the first 18 picks, here's the record for Dr. Z's mock in SI, Pro football Weekly and one of the Draft Magazines.

8 right. 56 wrong.

SMACK,

You're off the hook on your bet. Congratulations!

Nate,

BQ,MW has wiped off the tears and is taking deep breaths now on stage. It's a great scene!

Thanks, Ocho, unless we still get Bowe or Meacham somehow. 364 days til next year's draft!

Now he can be a LATE first-round bust instead of an early-round bust! lol

Maybe chicago wanted landry ?.. and the skins want to make sure the player they want is there when the 31st pick comes.. and they then make the trade with chicago ? what u think ??

Posted by: vpar57 | April 28, 2007 02:56 PM>>>>

Too clever by half for Vinnie & the Visigoths in the FO

for the Browns its insane to get the guy you may have picked 3rd at 22nd....and still get the stud left tackle......pretty huge

Cleveland gave up its second-round pick this year!

Cindy,

I just checked and here is the selection for a #22 pick.

http://www.diamondnexuslabs.com/jewelry/product_info.php?products_id=870&osCsid=jhf4m2bbjbah31229ot9tsf9t3

Good luck to the Brownies on that.

SMACK, you must be rolling on the ground laughing your guts out.

Cleveland paid too much to move up. If Quinn is a bust, the fans will never forget it. In fact, it might even help them forget Art Modell.

You're right, Ocho. He can pop for the $404 model.

Some of you are bona fide idiots!!! They got the best defensive player available. They tried to trade down, but now it makes sense that they didn't because there was not much interest in Quinn. They didn't mortgage the future for Calvin Johnson, they didn't pay 18 million for a guard...so what they have 6 DB's. Didn't some of you clowns cry about not enough depth.

Give the Skins some credit!!! They had a plan and they stuck with it.

This means that the Cowboys get a top five pick next year, when the draft has to be better.....

Although I hate the extra picks to cowboys, that was a move the Browns had to make. BaSically the same deal the skins made for Soupy...

Cleveland has no QBs..IF this dude is good, and cleveland has weapons, than they get him cheaper and still got a LT that may play 12 years....

will be interesting to chart over next 1-4 years

The Cowboys will have TWO top five picks next year, Cindy, due to this stupid trade and what meteorologists call the Wade Effect.

Sure, Dallas can select QB Booty of USC next year after a full season of Romo.

Good point on the Wade effect, Nate. You're right.

Reeason why I wish we had 2nd/3rd rounder...

that OSU WR Gonzalez kid....lun him, tall and will be a beast possession guy.....oh well...

New England is now on the clock. Time to watch out for 2008 Redskins picks flying around.

lun = luv

I'm a fan of two teams, my Boys, and whoever's playing the Cleveland Browns!

I hope the Cowgirls have the #1 overall next year (their own) and #31 the Browns after the Redskins beat them in the Super Bowl.

Screw Dallas.

i hear that cdubb!

Now that we didn't sell the farm to trade up for CJ, and picked Lando at #6, I'm suddenly okay with thinking about possibly trading a 2008 pick. But that's the danger of having traded away all our picks this year, it created this very trap!

Jeez, we should have done a draft pool. I'm 23 for 23 so far.

Gonzalez is only 6'0, 195.

congratulations smack!

those of you saying they didn't get any calls. their hands don't work? they couldn't pick up the phone and call cleveland, KC?

and those of you saying they selected the "best defensive player available"...according to mel? why do they need vinny and that scouting staff then?

and mr. kiper thought that giving up 10 picks to get JC was an awesome move also and picking carlos rogers was a great move too. and ohh from last year. mel thought mike williams was going to be the next jerry rice!

is it any surprise that this FO selected the same way Detroit made their selection "best player available" when they picked CJ? it's their 4th receiver and skins 4th DB in the first 2 rounds in less years.

Would any of you trade Landry for Meriweather and #28 coming up? Sounds like dealer would.

dealer,
I seriously doubt Cleveland or KC would have given up what it would have taken to get the number 6 pick. Big difference between 6 and 22.

chris larry, i don't go to games.

but i love this team. and i was really really hoping that they would do something extraoridnary...but i think it was time to reap what they sew...no picks

thanks joe! great work!

dealer, I think we've heard that the Skins tried valiantly to trade down but when the time came, they decided there was no offer preferable to taking Landry. I DO think they did their best to get a deal done, a GOOD deal, and when that didn't happen they picked the best player available, which was nice because it happened to be a position of need. Not the most need, but a position of need. My opinion.

frank, i know. i'm just bitter. very bitter. i'm so pissed at this FO.

nate, andre carter and griffin are my only hope. i hope they have a monster season. and weird Al can keep his offense on the field.

I'm hoping that Landry does turn out to be The Man we need him to be, 'safety as safety blanket,' so the front seven can key on the run with ferocity and ruthless abandon.

I'm also hoping that we don't trade back into the first day -- just re-read J-La's post about Gibbs all but dismissing that notion -- and just focus our energies on the picks we have tomorrow.

Another gem or two in the late rounds to go with our stud safety and we'll all look back on this draft with a smile. Or maybe it will be the happy memory of 50k. Whatever.

WHY DONT THE REDSKINS TRADE SEAN TAYLOR FOR A 2nd ROUND PICK FOR THEY CAN HAVE MORE PICKS THIS YEAR

I guess Brady Quinn's stock dropping like a rock is what killed our chances of getting more picks.

This is insane. There was nothing "extraordinary" the Skins could have done....AND they've made "extraordinary, splashy" deals many times in the past and HOW DID THAT WORK OUT??? Yeah, right.

Cleveland had no desire for our #6 pick. Crennel was just interviewed and he said they just could not pass up on Joe Thomas and were content with their pick - had no plans to go after Quinn at the point. After he starting falling, they decided it would be worth a shot to see if something could happen.

Geez...if we had picked a QB or a kicker or something like that, I could understand but the irrationality over a pretty good pick is just pointless.

dealer, again, we all love this team so much, and we're all people with brains who have divergent ideas on what the best thing is to do to make the team better.

But at some point we HAVE to trust in Joe and the players we have (which sounds like what you're doing, from your last post), because it's out of our control.

We have to reconcile our own passions with the reality of being fans of a team that is known to break hearts.

How can the Cowboys and Eagles be trade partners? How can anyone be a fan of a team that trades with the enemy?

Trade Sean Taylor for a second round pick. that is insane!!

Steve, YOU are the weakest link...Goodbye.

lisa, when i said "extraodrinary" i meant according to MY STANDARDS and every sane person's. NOT THEIRS!!!

Dealer if JC plays for the next 5-8 years than it was a good move and he showed a heck of a lot of potential...

And double move is not yet a bust, next year is the rubber year...

come back off the ledge your a skins fan, this should be expected by now....savr you tirades and freakouts for the actuall season

Dealer, you know I'm swimming in that pond with you bruh. The FO infuriates me. That said, I really think they did it right this time. Due diligence trying to trade back to get more picks and we ended up with the best defensive player available. This is the best we could have done.

'On the run from Johnny Law...ain't no trip to Cleveland'

hahah! my fellow skins fans...dont be sad, I told you the intent was to blow more draft picks! Not content with one rock-head in the secondary, WE NEED TWO! The only concern now is to make sure we get a good psychiatrist to handle these young kids' Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after next season. QB's are going to shell our secondary each Sunday. HAIL your Washington Redkins...

Dallas just made good pick.......

eagles/dallas tradeing is pathetic...

Dealer needs a qualude...

Enjoy the remainder of today's draft from the sidelines. Go eat, drink and be merry tonight. Wake up tomorrow at 2 pm and get ready for our 5th round pick!!!

Who needs to pressure a QB when we will now have two rock head safeties, a gimpy injury prone corner, and a young one that cant catch a cold, much less make an interception???

There is a good chance we might find a top flight Defensive End in round 5. Then again, Rynaldo Wynn is due for a Pro Bowl. Might have to give a $5M "just because" bonus to encourage him.

That was a fake ceratto - notice he spelled the name wrong. The good news is that we are NOT done drafting for the day. We still have lots of 2008 picks to trade for 2007 picks. We also have a trade offer out to Detroit - we're trading Springs for their 2nd round pick. We have to dump his salary so we can sign our new picks anyway, so we might as well get some cheap college talent for him. Hey, it's only draft picks!

Ha! you imposter! I am the true Cerattto! But I WILL NOT dismiss the fact we might be family...I like your thinking when it comes to draft picks. In fact, check your email, I might send you our 6th round pick, or our 2nd in 2008. Wait, do we have a second round pick next year???

Yes, we have a 2nd round pick in 2008, but only for a few more minutes!

hahhaha! im laughing so hard tears are streaming. I got $5 says price for beer goes up another dollar next year.

How about the new Snyder Special? A beer, a piece of Papa John's pizza, and a piece of Popeye's chicken - Only $20.00!

Landry is an instant impact player and a possible pro bowl player for a long time to come. Okoye has potential, but is not a run stopper and is far far riskier of a pick. He could be a bust in 3 yrs. No way is Landry a bust. It's the safe pick and the right pick.

Coach Joe sure didn't seem all that enthused about their pick. Problem will be lining up in a cover 2 all the darn time, even on running plays. That will wear down your safeties fast, thus allowing the deep pass play. And don't forget that Sean Taylor quit on plays last season (remember that great non-tackle in the Rams game?)

Still and all, Landry will probably bring a hard-hitting mentality to the team, and a much better work ethic. Pretty much hands of stone, though.

Best comment of the week - Gibbs stating that the Redskins 1st round draftee doesn't need to start for his 5-11 team.

Pathetic.

Bears picked TE Greg Olson from the U. Skins should offer something to trade for the Bears #2 TE, John Gilmore. Stud to be, plus very good blocking TE.

Colts gonzalez great pick.....

Why should Gibbs be thrilled? Vinny Cerato sucks as vp of player personnel. Sucks sucks sucks. The Skins will NEVER be a championship caliber team with that clown at the helm. And Snyder? He is too buddy-buddy to ever fire him. Gibbs is a shell of himself: he lacks the fire that made him great. His halftime tirades were legendary, and enough to motivate and turn the tide of many a game. He's washed up and I suspect no reason why he wont phone this season in, then retire. Danny will go after Cowher and get him...but at that point, expect at least 2 more years before the team is playoff ready.

We can't stop the run or pressure the QB TO SAVE OUR ASS and rather than at least try and take the RISK to get a young DT or DE, we go for yet another hard hitting safety that doesnt have the ability (at least as a rookie or 2nd year player) to figure out complex Offensive schemes...these two are going to be keystone cops in the secondary.

I dont care who the heck is in our secondary--give me the NFL elite...but if you cant pressure the quarterback, someone that sucked as bad as Ryan Leaf could look great.

So dont expect much more than we did this year...Maybe 8-8. Williams BS schemes pressure quarterbacks from the secondary is just a gimmick, and that one trick pony had his day in the sun.

1. Joe being "enthusiastic". He probably wanted that elusive wide-out. Apparently this draft is deep at receiver so perhaps Joe will get his wish. He probably wanted more picks because he has so many areas of need filled sometimes by folks with character issues and red flags. Joe Gibbs invented the concept of selecting players based on character first. You could have almost called the Redskins the "God squad". And it really worked. Therefore players with character flaws must bear the Snyder and Cerrato stamp. It is obvious he and the coaches probably wanted to trade for more picks as Dallas somehow managed to do. Again ... sigh ... Again Snyder and Cerrato.

2. They picked the right player. How is he different from Taylor? They are both similar. Except that Taylor is more enthusiastic about putting the hit on people. Now the defensive schemers finally have some flexibility. Either guy could play the nickel position in coverage. Either guy could become a hybrid safety-corner. Either guy can blitz like there is no tomorrow. Flexibility. BUT, They still need cover corners.

3. Defensive line. What people say there are "problems" JC? Coaches? I only see a problem at end and that is mostly age related. They will have to address this next year somehow. This year in the later rounds? They have 2 guys they like at tackle they just drafted LAST YEAR. You have to give them a chance to play first. That is how you waste draft picks by jumping the gun and giving up on people before it is time. And these guys aren't Westbrooks, Gardners, or Loyds types.

4. When you can't cover people don't you think that helps the running game? And when you over compensate for the run what happens? If Fletcher works out they should be better against the run. What about the pass and the pass rush. Coverage will still be a problem and if it is you can't blitz. If you solve that problem imagine what happens when either Landry or Taylor can blitz ...
OFTEN! If I am a QB I am going to flinch thinking about Taylor coming on my blind side. AND THAT IS WHY COVERAGE COMES FIRST. Imagine Champ Bailey, a healthy Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers manning the corners and nickel coverages. Now IMAGINE Sean Taylor blitzing. Imagine a run blitz with Taylor coming that turns into a play action pass. And Taylor gets enough football savvy to detect it. Imagine a quarterback going down ... the way Dexter Manley used to do it. First Staubach had to retire, then Danny White. How effective do you think any QB in the Eastern Division would be against THAT? Taylor is scary!

5. Next year defense again. This kind of shows just how effective Snyder's free agent pickups have been. And I think he feels badly burned. This year they are more cautious ... less risks in free agency. AND THAT IS JOE GIBBS stamp. Free agents need to be chosen carefully. IN THE END has Brunell helped or hurt? He has helped more than hurt. Ramsay was an idiot. And his record after the 'Skins shows that. No QB in today's NFL can expect to avoid injury. You need a competent back-up starter. Has the choice Gibbs made for Jason Campbell, A CHARACTER GUY first, helped or hurt? The jury is out but I am willing to gamble that it will be the best thing that could have happened. David Carr has already left his first team.

6. Draft picks are more important than free agents in today's NFL. Free agents fill in gaps to get a team over the edge. Because they can disrupt team chemistry they must be chosen carefully. Gibbs got burned enough times on this when they were trying to replace Riggins. IS THERE NO TEAM GENETIC MEMORY?

7. Snyder has to stop playing Madden 199X-20XX. It can't measure character and chemistry. God knows maybe someday it will if you believe half of what they say on that show "NUMBERS"? LOL

I hate it when you have to cut somebody slack, but it appears that Quinn really handled his precipitous plunge pretty well...
"People kept saying I was losing money [but] I was sitting back there with my wallet," he said. "I have, like, a dollar in cash, and it's still in there. I didn't lose any money."

Eric Weddle (S - Utah) selected by San Diego with pick #37.

Originally, this was the Redskins 2nd round pick.

Yeah, Quinn dropping killed any chance for a blockbuster trade. They all knew they could wait. Everyone was drafting for defense. They knew receivers would be available later in the draft. Except poor ex-QB coach for Skins Cam Cameron. Poor choice there.

Quinn's mouth said one thing, but his eyes said something else. One minute you think you might be the overall #1 pick, and it turns out your aren't even your team's #1. That's brutal, and on top of that you have to go to Cleveland.

I prefer Haiku to Def Poetry.

Eric Weddle (S - Utah) selected by San Diego with pick #37.

Originally, this was the Redskins 2nd round pick.

Posted by: | April 28, 2007 06:57 PM

Not even that, did you see what SD gave the Bears to move to that spot? Swapped 2nds, picked up a 3rd, 5th and another 3rd next year. RockyMac better be a good player.

Landry is an excellent pick!! Archuletta looked like he was running in quick sand last year when he tried to cover. Landry ran a 4.35 forty. This guy could cover Santana Moss as a safety. Add in his size and we've got ourselves a real gem!! Secondary is GREATLY improved, Linbackers are GREATLY improved. If Andre Carter improves in his second year and P. Daniels returns to his form. Griffin takes up the double teams. Our defense is back in the top 5 this year with safety blitzes galore. Our sack problems are over. Nobody wanted to trade up and we made the best pick available. I'm very pleased and everybody else should be too!! This is going to be a great season. Can't wait to see T. Owens catch a Sean Taylor L. Landry sandwich over the middle. I'm loving it!!

IN THE END has Brunell helped or hurt? He has helped more than hurt.

Posted by: periculum | April 28, 2007 06:47 PM

Not sure what you are talking about bro. He single handedly ruined 2004, had a handful of nice games in '05 but we won mostly on the run game and D and was finally put out of his misery after starting out 3-6 this past year.

Don't forget we've got smoot back to do the talking for the defense too. This is the best secondary in the league - springs, smoot, macklin, taylor, landry would be my starting d-backs. Rogers will only play if he improves. Linebacking corps could be top 5 with washington, fletcher and macintosh/marshall. Don't forget taking away the pass also instantly improves our defensive line. They will certainly have more time to get to the qb with nothing open downfield.

Okay, So at LEAST they didn't give up any picks from NEXT YEAR! Gibbs succeeded in keeping Snyder off the trade picks for nothing button. EVERYONE of the coaches I am sure think they need more picks both this year and next. But they will do what they can with what they have. Remember Asante Samuels is still out there. So is Briggs. Neither ended up here for draft picks. Neither is really worth a first or a second round choice. They aren't Champ Bailey at his prime.

WE DID IT! Yeah peeploggers! Oh and woo Landry.

Welcome back, sf. How was the wedding? It was a wild ride to 50K, too bad you missed it.

I'm surprised at the level of negative reaction to the Landry pick up here. It might not have been ideal, but it's definitely not a botch.

That was the first time I've seen film on Weddle. I could end up eating these words, but he looks horrible.

SMACK,

I think the dig isn't against Landry as a player. The talent is there, and it's rather obvious. Dub-La is a better bet than most of the players in the draft, so at least we got a fair shake.

The bigger problem is just how he's going to quite fit in with the team. As far as needs run, it's been clear from Day 1 post-season that the defensive line needed a boost. Sort of like buying another flathead screwdriver when what you needed was a Phillips head. There's also the issue of just how willing we are to take the risk of having a rookie unguided weapon of mass destruction in combination with a perennial unguided weapon of mass destruction. Given how often Sean Taylor was getting out of position last year, we had better hope Dub-La proves to be much more steady. (Of course, the Defensive Assistant Deity better get his act together in his scheme, too, but that's another matter.)

Let's not even touch what this might do to the Sean Taylor contract negotiations that are coming due rather soon....

i'm still mad. and i still haven't found my fcking bottle of valium.

listen peeps, landry is a good pick for a team that has picks in the 2nd or 3rd or 4th rounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's a luxurious pick. luxury that skins don't have. but they keep telling you cap don't matter, free agency is the way to go, draft picks are crapshoot and yet they keep losing players to CAP, keep missing in the free agency, keep hiring coaches, keep the same FO staff and you guys keep saying "have hope".

THERE IS NO HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY should i believe that they'll be better? They ARE NOT. and they WONT BE.

if you dig it, you dig it. if you don't keep your positivity and hope to yourself and shove it!

AMTTS, i hear you on sean tay thing. that's the thing, no one who's supporting LL pick is willing to admit yet another DEBACLE with the "most investigated draft pick in NFL history" (those are joe gibbs words after he drafted sean tay).

this is a delayed reaction cuz i didn't get that upset when that greedy old man was trading 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounders last year cuz i thought maybe, just maybe he knows what he's doing. BUT NOPE! HE DID NOT! and NEVER HAS.

Mr. Tony always says "i can't blame someone for taking money" especially if it's being shoved down your throat by a boy who's boyhood hero joe gibbs is.

but gosh darnit, it sure is ruining years of our lives.

between 83-92 we one 3 of 4 super bowls. gibbs can coach and is still one of the top in the game. you don't forget how to do that. we need a gm who is not our coach.

I hear you, Flim, but I also think your FO was handcuffed by the algorithm of your draft position, your needs, and the available talent. They didn't whiff, and they didn't get their arse handed to them in an ill-advised trade. I would only expect Skins fans to be pleased or relieved.

Finally a trade of veteran playoffs. Mike Williams and Josh McCown to the...Raiders?

won...snicker...no i have not been hitting the sauce!

on a lighter note...i didn't use my "good will" to watch the draft. woohoo!

Playoffs? I mean players. We're on the clock baby!

FYI, 50,747. I know you were wondering.

Though I would have prefered that they pick Amoeba, I guess L2 will do - anyway, I (and many others here) can be happy they didn't continue their shabingusing ways with giving away too much for too high priced FA's this off-season.

How can anyone be a fan of a team that trades with the enemy?

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | April 28, 2007 05:03 PM

So how 'bout a list of Cow-skins and Red-boys? We had Neon D., Calvin Hill(or some other CB running back for a while. Others?

Gibbs and Beathard yukking it up on the Network!

what a dork

So... who's 'winning' the draft?

And Cindy, not one funny story about the editors/commissioners mixer?

Not one little nugget to share, like Selig walking up to the podium with TP stuck to his shoe, or one of the editors handing his luggage to Bettman in a hotel lobby?

Selig? Wrong commish....

Also Cindy, thanks for the Goodell post a bunch of threads back. Not sure if you caught it, but in the run-up to 50k I made a high-larious funny comment on questions to ask the commissioners, with the punch line "How's Commissioner Gordon doing?" Damn, that was fun.

Anything to report from Gibbs/Beathard chitchat?

Lisa, I thought the meeting was with ALL the big league commishes, and just happened to be on the eve of the draught. Definitely wouldn't be the first time I got something wrong up here.

Well, I was on the TRADE DOWN! or D-LINE! bandwagon, but I have to admit to not being dissapointed with this pick. AMTTS and THE GUV have given Landry the stamp of "Purveyor of Tightness", and I will go with that for now. I am mostly glad they didn't do something really dumb and trade up for CJ or something.

Mostly I am just siced thinking about the nastiest safety combo in the league for the next 5-10.

I haven't sifted thru the todays posts, has there been a nickname contest for LaRon yet?

My contribution is "L'Android". Cause hopefully his skillz are not of the human race.......

Glad to see most are happy with the pick. We had our hands tied going into the draft, and clearly nobody wanted to trade up for our pick. So we did the best we could do with the situation we were put in, and actually having the best safety combo in the league is probably a good thing. Our d-line suffered last year because our secondary sucked. Now QB's won't have anywhere to go with the ball, so that translates to instant improvement on the d-line. Name another safety in the league that runs a 4.35. The analysts are comparing L. Landry to Ed Reed already.

LaReaper...
Laroninator...
Laronox Lewis...
I got nothing....

Call me Mini-Meast.

The Gibbs-Beathard stuff was funny. Beathard invited him out to his house, saying Joe had left his boogie board and stuff there. Joe joked that if he used it, Beathard would have to give him mouth-to-mouth. Then, they both laughed.
Very funny on the Commissioner Gordon line, Nate. That would have killed!
The funniest of the commissioners are David Stern and Gary Bettman, particularly Bettman when he gets going. Goodell had his moments. Selig, because he's so often being asked about performance-enhancing drugs and congressional hearings, hasn't been that funny.

Peter King thinks the FO is improving. Hoping he is right even though I view him as an idiot.

BEST EXAMPLE OF AN OWNER LEARNING HOW TO OWN: Washington's Dan Snyder refusing to mortgage the future and trade every pick of value in 2008, which is what he'd have had to do to get Calvin Johnson from the Lions. Smart. And LaRon Landry was the top defensive player on Washington's draft board.

The meeting is with each of the commishes over a two-day period...it's exhausting! Sports editors, usually 15-20, fly into New York and we go from office to office (BB, NFL, NHL and NASCAR are within about a four-block area) meeting with them. Don Fehr of the MLBPA also meets with us, as does Gene Upshaw of the NFLPA. This year, though, Upshaw couldn't make it.

LaBeast

cowpokes rb that came to skins besides c hill was duane thomas...i think he had some issues...drugs, by the time he got to us

Awesome, Cindy.

Also sort of had a question of how it feels when you step 'in front of the camera', as happened yesterday when you were cited (along with Maske?) on a piece of reportage. Did you start out as a reporter, do you ever actively 'work' stories, or was that just an anomaly of being in the right place at the right time?

Just loving that WashPo's multimedia assault is affording you a chance to share the spotlight at least a bit with glory hogs like TK, Wilbo and J-La.

I totally wanted to drop this during the race to 50k but forgot:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/webcams/snowcam.htm

As great as ever. The WashPo snowcam.

Ouch. Biting criticism from Les Carpenter:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801121.html

dang, just read the article by les carpenter...do you think snyder will have him offed!

doesn'tseem to be working...my latest post. here goes again. just read carpenters article, brutal. do you think snyder will have him offed?

shouldn't old man gibbs at least stick around in case some player they liked fell. this team stinks

I'm glad the FO did not trade up (although Calvin Johnson would have been a nice addition), trade down (after the top ten, not much 'help now' potential) or make a dumb a$$ trade (Josh McCown and Mike Williams for a 4th round pick -- I can't decide who got screwed more).

Wait until teams start releasing D-linemen to address that issue and keep the '08 draft in tact for the next Head Coach Russ Grimm.

Have they had this draft thingy yet?

Nate, I did start as a reporter and do work stories, even as an editor. I was most annoyed that we'd met with Selig on Thursday and Fehr on Friday before the Mets story broke.

A few observations.

Went to the "Draft party" at Fed Ex, but couldn't get in for like 35 to 45 minutes because only one door was open at "A" gate. THe "VIPs" had already gotten in through some other entrance.

There was no clapping or excitement when Landry was selected. It was like getting a family wagon you hope will come in handy for hauling something when you were secretly hoping for a sports car.

Some passer by let off a "some wide receivers are gonna get thur heads knocked off" comment. But the wind was sucked out of the sail pretty early. I think people were hoping for Akoye and/or a trade down scenario that would provide another pick. The problem is nobody really coveted anyone other than Jamarcus and Calvin and some pass protecting OL's.

Gibbs sounded like he was trying to get people to beleive in his post helicopter speech but I heard a lot of snickers in the crowd.

Somebody asked Gibbs a tough question, whiel he was on the podium and it got me thinking. I don't know how the Redskins are going to re-sign Cooley and SeanTay, my two favorite players. In this way I wonder if the NFL, salary cap parity and all has become dissatisfying to the average fan. You get to know and love a player that is drafted to your team and then when it's time to keep him, he's gone for payday land in another city.

I wonder who Snyder and Gibbs (& JLA) think is going to be available as a trading partner for a DE or DL? What is around to trade with and who would be the target? I agree with Carpenter that people around the league seem to view anything the Skins are pushing as garbage.

If you are going to write in four or five articles that the skins are going to trade (outside the draft) for DL help, its time to start fleshing out the who's and the whens.

The important question is, can Joe Thomas do for fishing what Tiger Woods did for golf?

Les Carpenter is a moron. He says the Skins don't use the draft to build their team, and Gibbs clearly values veterans, but come on - there are a lot of guys drafted by the Skins starting or playing critical roles on this team:

Carlos Rogers
Shawn Taylor
LaRon Landry
McIntosh
Kedric Golston
Jason Campbell
Cooley
Jansen
Samuels
Betts

Some of the guys are still developing, but you can't have a team full of developing players, you gotta have an influx of talent somewhere other than just the draft. The draft is little more than a crap shoot, you mix in proven veterans, duh.

Some of You guys in here are really making me sick. We had 1 pick on the first day. We Knew that.We took the player that could give us the best impact for next year. Guys that are whining now are the same ones who will be jumping up and down screaming I told You so when they are winning next year. Yes the FO has made many mistakes by why complain about getting a quality player. Two great hitting safeties can be huge. Just relax and see how things turn out. Who did you want them to draft a 19 year old kid that takes time to develop. He was a big risk at 6

How about L3?

I'm going to go with my original naming instinct on Landry. I was working with Double-La, but I shortened it to DubLa. I'll stick with it until he proves to deserve something better or worse.

thanks dtc. and les carpenter is the man! telling it exactly how it is. wondered the same exact thing. looks like the old man is wearing too many hats.

btw, i just saw casino royale. it was good. BUT it looked like they turned Mr. Bond into Mr. Bourne.

also i know it was a "product" placement by i've been to the Ocean Club. it's a sweet place. but only if you got money to burn (a grand a night) to get the right treatment. otherwise Atlantis has much more bang, (much louder bang)for your buck.

cindy, why is selig still a commissioner? it's not like his last name is bush or something.

brut, why did "we" have 1 pick?

dudes, we so got cheated. i just looked at the board and four teams got "compensatory" picks in the 3rd round. how come skins didn't get one? they're no better than oakland and SF.

did vinny forget to fill out/mail in a form?

atlantis sucks...white trash capital of the bahamas....ocean club is awesome

"Landmine" close the polls

Les Carpenter is a joke. He could have written that article a month ago and he probably did. We all know the Skins only had 1 pick and they took the best player available. What did he expect - they suddenly find some sucker team to trade up for a bunch of picks? Nobody was trading up for Quinn obviously or anyone else for that matter. Get an original thought Les! Its easy to rag on the FO - everyone here has been doing it for months - you're supposed to be a professional journalist - give us some professional insight. The chop, chop, chop sound should be of you getting chopped from the WaPo staff.

Ahhh, I loved the first day of the draft. Happy we picked up another block-head safety that wont be able to read any defense because is is strictly a head hunter like Sean Taylor. Wish I could have blown more draft picks on him!

Though we will be 8-8 next year, look for us to increase prices across the board! But hey, we make sure we get the best talent around. Hail your Washington Redskins!

"The coach may have been climbing, but on what is usually a significant day for most teams, there was still little reason to believe the franchise was rising with him."

Wow that's brilliant Les - that should get you a Pulitzer for sure.

Obviously I hope Landry turns out to be the real deal, but man the old guys on dline better get healthy and stay that way or we're in deep shti. What a boring day for skins fans though - just sitting around watching the rest of the league get better while our team does nothing. Random thought - wonder if Denver really needed to move up for Moss - I didn't think he was rated that high. Shanahan had those extra picks burning a hole in his pocket I guess.

While I'm not rapt with the Landry pick. When you look at the facts, it doesn't look too bad. Obviously no one was going to trade up and get Brady Quinn. So that eliminated our trade chances. We didn't make the Briggs trade, good. So our options were to basically pick Landry, or Okoye. Think about it, Atlanta, two picks after us, skipped on Okoye as well, and Petrino was his college coach. Doean't this tell you that he has doubts about him??

And the "Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it" award goes to:
Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys

I guess he thinks he'll get attention for being a "wheeler and dealer" for all these wacky trades today, but it didn't make any sense as a whole.

Gave up this year's #1 for next year's #1. Pretty good low risk move. I doubt Cleveland will finish over .500 in 2007, but that return on investment is 365 days from now.

Gave up a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th rounder to move up 10 spots... and then drafted yet another DE/LB. Horrible move. Cancels out the previous move.

Gave up a 2nd and 6th rounder for 3rd, 4th and 6th round picks, which is pretty much break even.

Reminds me of watching my dog chase it's tail. Spends a ton of energy going round and round, chasing something it already has, and ending up in the same spot, but totally exhausted.

hey fellas, right now NOT picking Mike Williams a couple of drafts ago doesnt seems that bad, huh???

"I was most annoyed that we'd met with Selig on Thursday and Fehr on Friday before the Mets story broke."

Cindy,

What Mets' story???

The third DB the Skins have used a top ten pick on in the past 4 years ... Taylor Rogers and now Landry. And how is that DB group and what else have the Skins done there?
Smoot -- left for FA and returned
Springs -- Signed and played well and is now trade bait
Bailey -- gone and is best DB in league
Walt Harris -- gone to become starter and all pro in SF
Ryan Clark -- gome to become starter in Pittsburgh
Archeluta -- gone massive bust spent a ton of $$ on him
Rogers -- not very good so far
Taylor -- big hitter and above avg safety
Lots of others in and out ....Skins mgmt has spent a ton of time and cap space on the secondary. So they draft a guy who plays the same position as Taylor ... the only young capable starter (Springs and Smoot are not young). Its impossible to think this mgmt group ... Snyder Giibs Cerrato ... have any clue.

The third DB the Skins have used a top ten pick on in the past 4 years ... Taylor Rogers and now Landry. And how is that DB group and what else have the Skins done there?
Smoot -- left for FA and returned
Springs -- Signed and played well and is now trade bait
Bailey -- gone and is best DB in league
Walt Harris -- gone to become starter and all pro in SF
Ryan Clark -- gome to become starter in Pittsburgh
Archeluta -- gone massive bust spent a ton of $$ on him
Rogers -- not very good so far
Taylor -- big hitter and above avg safety
Lots of others in and out ....Skins mgmt has spent a ton of time and cap space on the secondary. So they draft a guy who plays the same position as Taylor ... the only young capable starter (Springs and Smoot are not young). Its impossible to think this mgmt group ... Snyder Giibs Cerrato ... have any clue.

Even though...
1. We were stuck at 6 because there was apparently no one who wanted Quinn
2. Okoye didn't even get picked by his old coach
That doesn't mean we made the right choice here. Obviously at this point we can't say how good or bad the pick is because Lando may be the next Ed Reed and make an incredible tandem with the Reaper - or he may overpursue and lack the ball-hawking skills we wanted. And if it works out, EVERYONE will be happy about it. But to me, I still think it was the wrong pick. When you have a GLARING hole like we do (d-line) it is ok to ignore your need and take the best available if:
1. He is a once in a lifetime type player (Reggie Bush type)
2. You have other day one picks

Now, I know Lando is lauded by some as the "best defensive player in the draft", but he is in no way an unbelievable talent that you'd be stupid to pass up. So he doesn't reach requirement 1. Now, I'd be fine with this pick if we had our other picks. Maybe even if we only had one other 1st day pick. But to not pick again until the FIFTH ROUND...you can't ignore such a glaring problem. So Lando clearly doesn't meet the second requirement. He should be a great player, but theres a good chance it won't matter this year. If we pick up some great D-line talent in 08 then great, but barring any other major roster changes I'd say we're in for an ugly season.

And for the record, I would have taken Jamaal Anderson. No one in that draft was more perfect for our system and our biggest need.

Also, with everyone saying "Yeah, but think of what a safety tandem of Landry and Taylor are capable of!!!"...
I am trying to get excited about this right now. I'm Imagining the 'crunch' sounds of quarterbacks being blindsided, WRs over the middle, and running backs finding a brick wall and I'm also imagining big picks in big games and our defense getting their swagger back. And I really hope this all comes true. But let's just say, if the Skins are doing something (taking 2 safeties in top 6 of draft so soon) that no one ha