1st maybe.

heyo!

Trade for Briggs and draft the best available lineman at 31. It is the only scenario that makes any sense. You get one proven commodity in Briggs and potentially a nice complement on the line at 31. A win-win scenario.

What are we gonna do with ROCKY? If we trade for Briggs we also have to throw in Rocky and get the Bears 2nd round pick also to make this deal.

Whew, definitely a strange year for the skins and the draft. Seems like half a dozen scenarios they could follow. Trade up/down, stay put, trade for Briggs, etc... Glad I don't have to speculate on what they'll do as part of my job.

I hadn't heard all those negative comments about Adams before.......after his workout people were saying he was solidified as the top d player in the draft..........so sounds like if we move back, Anderson and then Carriker are the options

nothing too new there, Anderson is upside and potential bust, Carriker is a safe pick with a lot less upside. I haven't watched Anderson play at all, so can't really say much.

Stupid work and it's time-occupyingness...

"To the best of Jonathan Vilma's knowledge, a Redskins fan began a blaze of speculation that spread to Weeb Ewbank Hall, where Jets General Manager Mike Tannenbaum last week was asked about Vilma possibly being traded. Tannenbaum said Vilma, who led the league in tackles two years ago but struggled last season in the new 3-4 defense, remains a Jet and added, "I'm glad he's here" and "I expect him to be here." In trying to douse the flames of conjecture, Tannenbaum managed to fan them by saying that no player, with the exception of punter Ben Graham, is untouchable. So it is that Vilma, the 12th overall pick in 2004, goes into tomorrow's draft faced with the prospect that he might again hear his name called."

Jason,

What do you think of the theory that this is part of the lying game and that they're making you the mouthpiece to tell people that Chicago is interested in trading up to 6 so they can increase the value of the pick?

Does it sound like JLaC sees the Briggs deal as near-completed?

Wonder what NFL Commish Goodell will do about this guy with his new "Pac Man" policy. This guy can't keep himself out of trouble either it seems.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6743208

F Michael Vick

Well, how else is Vilma going to hear he's been traded; after all, he spends all off-season on the roofs of New Orleans.

Oh, that and pushing kids on swings.

In terms of a new linebacker, Antonio Pierce relayed a great line he lives by that he heard from Gilliams. Shows his respect for good coaching. (We should not have let him go)

"Even a rock, if its placed right, will make a play at linebacker every once in a while."

"no player, with the exception of punter Ben Graham, is untouchable."

At least he has a sense of humor. Maybe he can replace Vinnie.

Just my take, but I'm sure the Skins have not divulged what they are going to do with Jason - or any member of the media. It's all total speculation.

So I've been thinking about that old Whitesnake classic:

"Wasted days, and sleepless nights... And I can't wait to see you again..."

Redskins Insider. IS This Love?

It seems to me that if we add Briggs to the lineup, we will just continue to muddy up the chemistry where we have adaquate coverage.

muga,

Should have thought of old Mr. Smith.

inspired by the Gettysburg address he was.

posting as though Yoda I am.

I want to know what love is. I want Redskins Insider to show me.

Lisa,

Do you look at all like Tawny Kitaen? Cause I look just like David Coverdale and Chuck Finley combined.

That Mike Vick story is disturbing.

Maybe Atlanta will be in the Brady Quinn sweepstakes as well...

i just realized that Lisa did not post the whitesnake reference... I need to take a shower... no offence, Dame...

But, LB, do you have a Jag?

JLC,
Leftovers taste better anyway...

Again it looks like the team will try to acquire players that will have an immediate impact (Briggs). The Skins are better than their record, but really the team doesn't seem positioned to take it to the show.

Carriker sounds like he might attack in the opposite direction a la ST.

Sean Taylor would eat the phone booth,with all three rookies inside.

LB, your infatuation with Lisa is still valid...

MV,

Love is a battlefield, dude.

But, we are strong...
No one can tell us we're worng...
No promises no demands...

Old School asked about greatest moments in our rivalry from the opposing point of view. It was easily 12/16/1979...

If they needed extra momentum, Riggins provided it with just under seven minutes left to play. Breaking outside at his 34, Riggins outran linebacker Mike Hegman, bounced off a tackle attempt by Harris 10 yards downfield, then won a footrace with Dennis Thurman for a 66-yard touchdown dash which upped the Redskins' lead to 34-21.

That lead held until Randy White's recovery of Clarence Harmon's fumble with 3:49 left. Suddenly, the Cowboys were no longer playing dead.

Staubach needed only three plays - a 14-yarder to Johnson, a 19-yarder to Hill, and a 26-yard scoring shot to Springs over the middle. Springs took the pass at the five and literally dragged cornerback Ray Waddy into the end zone as 2:20 remained. The 59-yard scoring march left Dallas trailing, 34-28.

Then the defense came on to give the Staubach-led Cowboy attack one final chance. It was all the Eastern Division champions needed.

Good times!

Trade for briggs. Get the #31. Then trade briggs for multiple mid round picks. This is just a thought.

LB, LB.

(Love Bites, Larry Bud.)

MV,

Depends, do you look like Tawny Kitaen?

Actually, I drive a Saturn. Money metal.

Love me tender, love me true, RI.

thanks guys for the advice on what to do with my built up 3 hours of goodwill.

what i did to get those three hours:

i got up at 5:30am for 8 weeks.

when i came home at 5:30 PM i take over the kids, play with them, feed them, give them bath and put them to sleep.

on the weekends i take over the kids completely.

even when i'm working out, doing yard word i'm watching the kids.

actually i haven't taken a shti by myself for about 6 months.

haven't been out with the guys in a year. while she goes to get her manicure, pedicure, massages every 2 weeks and hair every 3 months and is routinely going to dinners and lunches with the girls.

[and yes, she's smoking hot. why else?!]

and i think i'll take 4-12's advice and go play 9 and maybe listen to ESPN radio while playing.

skins want CJ but they can't get him because ATL, and Tampa are more desprate to get him than the skins. So i think Briggs is happening.

BTW, those of you concerned about Mcintosh's role here when Briggs comes. Mcintosh is included in that deal. What skins are negotiating is getting something in return for Mcintosh. like a 2nd or a 3rd round pick.

Sfskin, welcome to the east coast! flying back sunday or monday? tough. i hope you flew jet blue. with directv and all...

Larry Bud, MV Dame is NOT a dame.....he's a guy.

Sean Taylor would eat the phone booth,with all three rookies inside.

Posted by: Stumped | April 27, 2007 12:51 PM

Sean Taylor could choke a man to death with a cordless phone.

Hey Snyder/Cerrato:

I've seen it before, it happens all the time

You're closing the door, you leave the world behind

You're digging for gold, you're throwing away

A fortune in feelings, but someday you'll paaaaaay!

Your as cold as ice to us fans.

If I looked like Tawny Kitaen, I'd be all over myself. And I'd probably be a woman. But I'd be a lesbian.

(Can we say that on RI?)

I once saw the four horsemen of the apocalypse galloping hard past me. I turned and fled too, as it meant that Sean Taylor was coming.

Thanks for looking out, Lisa!

#2, game 1, 1992

Winning the battle on offense, defense and special teams, the Cowboys' 23-10 victory over the Washington Redskins on Monday night was stunning in its efficiency. The big plays came from everywhere, from Alvin Harper and new millionaire Michael Irvin, from Danny Noonan and new Cowboy Charles Haley, from Issiac Holt at one end of the punt team and Kelvin Martin at the other.

Quoting lyrics from the worst of the '80s is no way to get to 50K.... have some respek pee-pole...

In that 1992 game, I was landing at National Airport and got in trouble because I refused to turn off my portable TV during landing, and then they discovered the six pack of Heineken I'd smuggled on and consumed. I was met by two FAA agents in the concourse who said I was at risk of arrest. I said "who cares, we're up 9-0 already!".

With Briggs you get a proven commodity who also is able to help when you need to cover the Eagles Brian Westbrook. He along w/McNabb make the Eagle offense go. If the Skins get Briggs they finally have a LB to cover and possibly shut him down. With that #31 they could draft DE Anthony Spencer who most Big Ten Lineman have voted as the Toughest Lineman to block. Spencer is not high on a lot of boards b/c he's a tweener 6'3" 260. The Eagles used one of their tweeners this year a LB named Cole who recked havoc and was a big reason they improved even w/o Kearse.

I don't see that Briggs would help that much. We need DT, DE, OL and DB help. WR, RB, and LB are all set. I really hope this is all just a game.. If they take Briggs, HE WILL DO WORSE IN DC THAN CHI TOWN B/C HE WON'T HAVE THAT GREAT SUPPORTING CAST.

Let's hope to move down from 6th.

cload, you're dirty and sweet, clad in black, don't look back, and I love you. You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah.

911 people. That's all we need for 50K.

SMACK- You know if you did that today, they'd have you in Gitmo by sunset.

MV -- I know the 48 posts-per-day is a strain, and they will all count, but somehow it'll feel cheapened.

Stumped, from the last thread, here's the Stumptown sports bar of choice:

http://www.ondecksportsbar.com/

Smoke-free, with WiFi. Solid. I will see you there.

How many Portlanders are up here, anyway? Very cool.

As I mentioned before, a few blocks from our new house is a house with a Go Skins sign proudly displayed. Loving it.

SMACK - WTF? Have you no decency?

Larry Bud, MV Dame is NOT a dame.....he's a guy.

Posted by: Lisa | April 27, 2007 12:57 PM

Yeah, but it's a blog and I can dream...

I know that's why I made the shower comment after the original post.

Dealer,

Good call, bro. And I feel you on the kid duties. Same here. Seems like you should get more than 3 hours, though.

And cload, cload, cload

Pour some sugar on me...

I know, that's why I never fly on gameday. Just can't trust myself.

Well, DUH, he's a CowPies fan...

Briggs, #31 and #37 for #6 and McIntosh?

Too good to be true.

but decent or not, the posts count!

Sorry skinswest, but it's all that losing that makes your occasional win all the more savory, right?

cload, please accept my apologies. I will cease and desist for the good of humanity.

I get the feeling we're going to hit 50K before I catch up to my obligated 48 per day. I'm running about 88 behind as it is...

muga,

prolly.

The Briggs deal reminds me of the Archuleta deal. It seemed like such a good idea at the time...

Why all the yelling?

Its obvious you hate me
Though Ive done nothing wrong
Ive never even met you
So what could I have done

I am in NC. Saw a truck on the way in to work this morning with a Redskins toe hitch cover. Good karma for the 'Sprint to 50K'

Can we draft a GM with the #6 pick?

cload,

never cheapened, maybe cheap tricekened, though.

Have we gotten an offical count yet this morning?

But, LB, are you gettin' it?

armagedon it, baby.

Mr. Spartan posted:
"Even a rock, if its placed right, will make a play at linebacker every once in a while."

Sheesh. That doesn't say too much for Holdmann, does it?

No, no, no Briggs. He's overvalued as a result of playing on that D where every play funnels guys away from Urlacher toward him. We can't lock up a ton of salary at LB and ignore D-line & secondary. We already have enough salary tied up there -- look at how well pouring endless cap space into WR has worked out --let Rocky play and spend the money elsewhere. Trade down from 6, pick up a second round pick so you might have guys in 2 years who can fill in for the overpaid guys who break down with age. Sigh.

Sean Taylor is predicted to finish first in the NFC East.

muga, is 49113 not official enough for ya?

I think Riggo would agree,

It's better to burn out than to fade away, unless you have one arm

Are the other teams just as active, but keep quiet about all their trade talk?

The Redskins are EVERYWHERE.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/04/26/draft.five.things/index.html

Speaking of karma, I got a bad feeling about the draft...had to make some purchases yesterday, and I just looked at the receipt. Tax was $4.12. Uh-oh.

Now that you mention it SMACK, the three out of the last four beatings we've giving you guys have been especially savory - particularly the Monday nighter two years ago. Although last year at Fedex was pretty nice too. Yes even when we suck - beating the cowpokes never gets old.

Nate:
Thanks for the local venue. It looks sweet.
I'll check it out in the fall.

Geographically challenged, perhaps, but 50K draws nearer with every post.

And its a dirty job, but someones go to dooo it.

I'm going on record saying tomorrow I will be in a very bad mood because of the skins 'pick'.

PROVE ME WRONG DANNY BOY.

TRADE DOWN FOR THE 10,000th TIME.

"Even a rock, if its placed right, will make a play at linebacker every once in a while."

Posted by: MrSpartan | April 27, 2007 12:44 PM

Sean Taylor can kill two stones with one bird.

how great is that phonebooth quote con carriker? i still think he's better suited to a 3-4 and winds up playing inside for us and therefore out of position. but i defer to the scouts on that. good to know there are probably 4 D Line guys worth taking (adams, okoye, anderson, carriker) should we do a deal or two to move down.

Let's also not forget, when we do make our draft selection ...Every rose has it's thorns.

SO some people think Gaines Adams has a small neck? There's a joke in there somewhere about Norv Turner's turkey neck. But I'm not going further, indeference to Officer PC.

And how about that brilliant quote: "He could be a monster, but he might also have bust written all over him." Um, got commitment issues with your cliches, Mr. Secret Prognosticator? It's anonymous, make a stand!

Blog! Blog! (Till You Drop)

Hey stumped; Are you acually Heather Mills? Didn't know you liked football.

Go Skins Go - Most of us here want the skins to trade down. But the question is, are there teams willing to trade up? We'll find out tomorrow...

Smack

got a ton of respect for ya.thats a classic line , I could see myself uttering.

that 92 game , it was immediatley apparent to me the changing of the guard. we suddenly looked old and slow like the old proud lions we had become and you were lighting fast and smelled blood. that brings me to....

the second game that season, you were clearly the team to beat and we were a down team clinging to playoff life.I was at the commonwealth brewrey in boston pounding beers my back to the TV, ( i was taping the game and wanted to watch it start to finish without knowing the outcome) freind of mine and I had tickets to the sringstein concert at the Boston garden. Bruce was awesome. got home at 3am,
hit play on the vcr and watched start to finish, wild scramble in the endzone touchdown danny copeland.... andre collins picks aikman at the goaline. great game, great night.

Wedding day = draft day can be okay. On my wedding day we pulled off the Ditkabingus and landed Champ and Jansen. That was awesome.

And there's some kind of subtle moral message about what's Really Important.

should be Old School.

adding to total

All you guys dumping on Briggs, how many times did you watch him play? Here's what Peter King wrote about the trade:

"the Redskins don't have a crying need at linebacker, and I don't expect them to make a trade, swapping the sixth pick in the first round and either MacIntosh or Lemar Marshall for Briggs and the 31st pick in the draft. But I think you need to realize why the Redskins would ponder this move. The one thing you must remember is that Lance Briggs is an excellent football player, one of the five or six best linebackers in football. Last fall, watching the Bears, I saw how they used Briggs and Urlacher interchangeably at both middle and outside linebacker, and Briggs was every bit the factor in many of their big games that Urlacher was. He can take on guards in the hole and he can play side to side as well as almost any linebacker playing today. I think he's worth the big money. If I were the Redskins, I would certainly trade my sixth pick for Briggs and the 31st, but throwing in the good linebacker would kill the deal for me."

Mind you, it wouldn't be my choice, either, but Peter King's rarely endorsed anything the 'Skins do and he can see the logic in the trade.

I was wondering about that 'small neck' comment--can someone tell me how that would relate to football skill? Or is it just a stand in for 'not beefy'?

Do you guys watch the draft like how a six-year-old watches a scary movie?

"He could be a monster, but he might also have bust(s) written all over him."

Thought that was a reference to Tank Johnson

MrSpartan,
I'm Not Heather Mills. But if you check out Nate's link, I'm the third chick from the left.

:)

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Have you seen Tawny lately? Unless I'm mistaken she was on a 'reality' show recently, and I wasn't impressed. Now back in the day, she was very attractive.

As far as Carriker is concerned, we need the mean sum-b*tch on this team. Trade back to #9 and get him.

Why #9, because Atlanta wants him, and combined with this:
"Industry sources in the Minnesota area tell us that the Vikings are strongly believed to be planning to pick safety LaRon Landry with the No. 7 overall selection in the draft."

So, listen, we've got about 835 to go for 50K. Anybody think we can't do this BY Draft Day? Meaning by 12:00 midnight TONIGHT.

Sean Taylor can kill two stones with one bird.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 27, 2007 01:19 PM

Funniest ST comment today.

KK, it just smells fishy to me. We made MLB a priority and landed London School of Economics. Then NOTHING on the LB front, and we all shift our focus where it belongs, on the D line (followed by safety and OG). Then Next Question created a possible trade out of thin air, and suddenly we're engaged in a serious trade discussion?? Come on already.

Altogether we'd have to average about 82 per hour over the next 10 and a half hours...

Do you guys watch the draft like how a six-year-old watches a scary movie?

Posted by: SMACK | April 27, 2007 01:23 PM

With this FO how can we not?

MV Dame, that's only about 80 posts an hour. We can and will do it.

CINDY & J-LA, we're going to need a new post at some point, around dinnertime, because we're going to bust this one.

I really think if we were going to trade for Briggs it would have been done by now.

Why is it whenever you beat us lately there's a miracle involved? Guess we can go ahead and close up that hole in the roof. Damn you St. Joe!

MV D,

Maybe you should change your name to MV ND (MV NotreD?) to avoid fruther confision.

jm220, I sure hope so.

Hey, jm, did you hear from the ladies (sfskin and Lisa)? I gave both of them your e-mail, which I hope was okay.

And in the process, Nathaniel Boone, I think we just might crash the servers. How many awesomeness points would we get for that?

Nate, what kind of shop are you running out there? You know what happened to Heidi Fleiss right?

Yes Nate, I heard from both of them. No problem in giving them my e mail.

Nate,

It's only 1:30. You back from lunch already?

I think it's just pre-draft lying game noise, myself, to try and get some action going. Make the others think we're going to trade with Chicago so that they'll pay more for the pick.

But, if it does happen, Peter King's on record saying that we've gotten a good deal. When was the last time that happened?

He thought that Campbell was one of the five best in that draft, but said the 'Skins paid too much to get him. If he really was one of the five best -- and we'll know in a few years -- then he was a steal.

I like that MV Dame is kind of ambiguous.

Especially because 'dame' is an archaic term that no woman I've ever known would use to describe herself.

"There is nothing like a dame! Nothing in the world! There is nothing you can name that is anything like a dame!" Love those show tunes!

charlie-boy, it was remarked way back in October '06 that I change my name from MV Dame to Notre Dude. But it just didn't feel right, you know? Besides, I don't mind the confusion. Makes me feel kinda special...

Dame you, Nate!

By the way, that suggestion came from good ol' Joe in Raleigh. Where in the world did he disappear to?

Aaaaagh.. trying to clear my schedule so I can just post furiously until I go home and continue unpacking from the move. Even if the interweb is connected (I'm looking at you, Comcast.) I will be too busy to help much in the early evening, and at this rate we are going to hit 50k.

Can you feel it? Can you feel the excitement?

Besides, I don't mind the confusion. Makes me feel kinda special...

Posted by: MV Dame | April 27, 2007 01:35 PM

Well, isn't that special.

sorry, charlie. didn't mean to harsh your mellow, my friend.

Speak for yourself, Nate!

Can you feel it? Can you feel the excitement?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 27, 2007 01:37 PM

I only thing I feel right now is Taco Bell creeping up on me...

I don't think I'm going to be eating today. The adrenaline rush will sustain me, I think.

LB, I feel... adrenalized.

4 years since "mission accomplished"

From Peter King's Mock Draft:
"What Matt Millen wants to do is trade down, obviously. He might find a partner in Washington owner Dan Snyder. They talked at length Thursday. The most likely scenario has Millen taking Johnson even if he can't deal him. Who should I give you guys in my mock draft?" I said to Daniel Snyder on Thursday. "Give us Calvin Johnson," he said with a big smile. OK. Now, sir, you've got to go get it done. If not, don't be shocked at a rekindling of the Lance Briggs deal, or this 19-year-old Louisville phenom."

Nate,

So what's going to happen after we hit 50K? What's next after that? Bloggers Hall of Fame?

The word 'dame' makes me think about noir, tough guys, gumshoes. Jim Thompson, James Ellroy, that kind of stuff. I really dove headlong into that genre for a while and dug it immensely, though I would catch myself doing tough guy talk sometimes.

If any of you like to read books and stuff, I read an awesome book called "Berlin Noir" by Phillip Kerr.

It's a long offseason, you're going to need something to read.

Nate,
You'll want to be there to help with Comcast connections...the people they send out are clueless.

calebt17--Good question. Where is the Blogger's Hall of Fame? St. Elizabeth's? Can we get a padded room, next to Hinkley?

KK said it right: this is all part of the lying game, and are using JLC as a mouthpiece. For all we know, they may be in love with Adams or another one of the D-Lineman. I just hope they don't do something stupid.

We got sunlight on the sand
we got moonlight on the sea
we got mangos and bananas you can pick right off the tree
we got volleyball and ping pong and a lot of dandy games
what ain't we got? we ain't got dames.

except, MV, Lisa and Cyn Cyty

caleb, GREAT call. We should dedicate a few dozen posts towards the 50k goal discussing what we'll do after hitting the 50k goal. How post-modern of us.

(trying hard to sound like Edward G. Robinson)

MV, you're my kinda Dame.

see

Hey, I still want to know -- now that more of the geniuses are on line -- do the 'Skins have a better record with their draft picks or with their free agent signings? I say, overall, their draft picks have turned out better. What do the geniuses think?

Personally I'm going to sit back and wait for Guiness (book not beer), Ripley's and That's Incredible to come and interview me.

Dancing Bear, did you know there's a strip club called the Dancin' Bare in North Portland? I kid you not. It's not too far from our house, not that I would ever go to such a place.

And it's right across the street from the giant John Bunyan statue. I know, I know, it doesn't make any sense to me either. Parts of Portland are very David Lynchian.

" ... So, listen, we've got about 835 to go for 50K. Anybody think we can't do this BY Draft Day? Meaning by 12:00 midnight TONIGHT.

Posted by: MV Dame | April 27, 2007 01:26 PM"

This would be wrong. Shameless. Encourage posting about gerbils. ONLY in the NFL would something start 12 hours before it actually starts. I say no. Lets improve quality instead, otherwise, someone is going to get injured.

Stumped, Mrs. Nate is handling the Comcast shabingus. She will make sure they get it right. She was almost as distraught as I was over the lack of the internets.

As a resident genius, I'd have to go with FAs. But then, I'm only an slightly below average genius. Not really mensa material.

From Len Pasquarelli's Column on espn.com:

"Safety dance for Redskins: When it comes to safeties, maybe the third time will be the charm for Washington and owner Dan Snyder. The Redskins used the fourth overall choice in the 2004 draft on safety Sean Taylor"

Um....yeah, it was the FIFTH pick in the draft, I guess actually having the journalistic integrity to report facts is asking too much.

Oh yeah, Payt in the PDX? I missed when he was up here posting. Skins Nation has no boundaries. We are everywhere.

there was a strip club in Tucson called Skin City. It was right next to the Notell Motell.

So anyways a little more germaine to the blog.

KK, did you read Boz this morning? He broke it down really well. Man, I love Boz.

Nate,

Do yourself a favor get rid of Comcast they are terrible. Smartest move I ever did 3 months ago switching to DirecTV and check to see if Verizon Fiber Optic is available in your area. You won't regret it.

Questions for all you techno guys. Wife and I want to set up our computer, and her laptop, with the whole video/audio capability thingy. I know about Skype. Is that the best? How about web cams? Which ones work well? Someday I'll learn how this whole technology thing does what it does.

Re Briggs, sure, he may be ok. There are views other than Peter Kings, for what it's worth a dc paper other than post has had the following views:

"He wouldn't be as productive in their defense," the scout said. "Chicago's defense is designed to have the weak-side linebacker never be blocked and make every kind of tackle and play known to man. In [the Redskins' defense], the weak-side linebacker is taking on offensive tackles. He's not going to be the player for them as he was or will be for the Bears."

also:

"Nothing against Briggs, who is a two-time Pro Bowl player who has never missed a game. But he's a perfect fit for the system he currently plays in; he would be a square peg in the Redskins' round-hole-type defense."

and:

"I watched a tape of the Redskins-Giants game (Week 17) when word broke the team was interested in Briggs. The Redskins used three linebackers on 39 of the Giants 61 offensive snaps, two linebackers on seven plays and one linebacker 15 times. Rocky McIntosh, in the spot Briggs plays, was on the field for only three of the 22 plays where the Redskins didn't use three linebackers.
London Fletcher in the middle will be an every-down backer and Marcus Washington, because of his threat as a pass rusher, will also be on the field on third down. The way to keep Briggs on the field is to use a look on passing downs that uses Washington as a stand-up defensive end/pass rusher. Not an ideal scenario.
2. Acquiring Briggs will add a solid tackler, but it won't solve two big problems: Creating turnovers and pressuring the quarterback. In 64 career games, he has 3.5 sacks, seven forced fumbles and six interceptions.
3. How little confidence do the Redskins have in McIntosh? Can they possibly be giving up on him after one season and two starts? My take is that they weren't thrilled with McIntosh's development last year (I mean, he couldn't beat out Warrick Holdman) but the coaching staff still thinks he can play. The Briggs pursuit has been led by The Danny.
4. Doesn't the owner remember what happened with Adam Archuleta? He thrived in Lovie Smith's scheme in St. Louis, but didn't fit Williams' scheme in D.C. That should scare Snyder away from anybody with ties to the 'Tampa Two' philosophy, especially linebackers and defensive backs. "

Nate:
That was me...your quest drew me out of the lurking category. I filled in for you while you were out

I changed the Blog name when you returned.

Now I'm hooked.

MV,

Safety Dance!!!

I won't leave my friends behind...

Oh, that sounds wrong.

RI just knocked out 140 posts in less than 50 minutes.

It is a sign that the 'skins are taking the draft more seriously that they are putting out so much misinformation about what they are doing.

Doesn't anyone notice that the 'skins have put out at least three separate "news items" saying they are interested in Johnson, Landry, AND Okoye?

Only one pick, so they can't take all three, folks. Most of that is misinformation in an attempt at stirring the pot for trading DOWN.

They either trade down OR pick Okoye. You read it here.

Stumped, that's awesome. Stick with Stumped, it's not only a funny descriptor but it's evocative of Stumptown. Glad to have you aboard. You can tell how addicted this is, though, so plan accordingly.

You can take a horse to water but only Sean Taylor can make the horse drink.

sween, you have to admit it's not all bad. There's a surprisingly high level of quality even amid all this quantity. Everyone has elevated their games for this phenomenal effort.

This Briggs thing bothers me...
But it seems the objective of Draft Day is not to make any huge mistakes.

It certainly wouldn't be the biggest mistake the FO ever made.

Setting aside the likelihood of this happening, but would you be happy with the following scenario? Redskins trade down twice. First, to a 8-14 range, picking up a second or third round pick. Second, they swap that 8-14 pick and Rocky M. with the Bears for Briggs and 31 pick. I read that the Bears would like to move up, but not as high as #6. The gains for the Redskins: Briggs, 31st pick in the first round (D Line or WR), and a 2 or 3rd round pick (D Line, O Line, Corner, Safety). The gains for the Bears: a higher first round pick (the best available player), Rocky M (currently a downgrade from Briggs, but a decent prospect that may flourish in the Bears' system) and no need to worry about Briggs sitting out the season.

Abra abra cadabra... I wanna reach out and grab ya

I'm down with the misinformation.
DC has corned the market on that...

Saturday, will tell the tale.

Joe in Raleigh was last seen lurking near a real North Carolina BBQ pit.

Oh, and F KC BBQ.

Rennypolis - If you tell me who the Skins will trade down with...then I'll say, "I heard it from you first."

"Nobody gonna break my stride
Nobody gonna slow me down
Oh no (oh no)
I got to keep on movin'!"
That dumb song has been in my head since I thought of it during our last trip to the 80's up here, a few weeks back.

Stumped, 'corned the market' is a La Canfora-worthy misspelling/malaprop/whatever. That is good stuff.

So is 703 the single thread record?

If the Redskins draft Brady Quinn, Nate has to change his blog name to "BQ,MW"

Make sure you credit me when I said we are going to select jamaal anderson yesterday........

"Everyone's laughing and rioting and cornholing except Buster." - Lucille Bluth

I hope this blog is HGH/Steroid free because it wouldn't be right to break a record with the juice.

Do we have a count?

If the Redskins draft Brady Quinn, Medicine Woman, my scream will be heard from Manila to Melbourne.

Here is a throw back for you Nate.

Shout Shout let it all out. These (Briggs trade) are the things we can do without out. I am talking to you (Dan). Come on.

kk

i am no genuis. We have done well at the top bailey, samuels, arrington, jansen betts, smoot, cooley, dockery. but have gotten zero out of the bottom way to many misses or guys that are ok at best. need to come up with some players from the bottom portion of the draft. and we simply throw away picks in deals giving us fewer turns at the crapshoot all together.

that being said we are not a draft only team and will continue to look at all avenues of getting players, which i am on record as saying is not a bad thing. its not the strategy, its the execution of the strategy.

It makes sense to get players who are in their prime already playing in the league, yeah you gotta pay them but its not my money, we get around the salary cap colapse every year. its just really hard to pay top dollars to a boy to play a mans game you just don't know if he can. in alot of ways i would rather give it someone you know can play, then wait for this years draft crop to develope and 5yrs from now grab some one from a team that can't or won't pay them. in the meantime you have to make sure you getting real good players of your own from the middle and lower rounds. top down and bottom up.

Bobby Depaul

Tears for Fears reference from jm, I'm impressed!

After we hit 50K, Nate is going to do the Naked Snoopy Dance at Pioneer Courthouse Square. With an IPA in hand.

sween, you have to admit it's not all bad. There's a surprisingly high level of quality even amid all this quantity. Everyone has elevated their games for this phenomenal effort.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 27, 2007 02:02 PM

Abra abra cadabra... I wanna reach out and grab ya

Posted by: MV Dame | April 27, 2007 02:05 PM

MV Dame, what happened to your number count in the parenthetical?

Nate, ...

Old School, there is a persistent notion that under Gibbs 2.0 there is heightened pressure to 'win now,' over and above what is expected in the NFL. He may not stay the full five years, has had serious health problems before, not wanting to tarnish his legacy, and so forth.

Have you perceived any difference in the team's conduct vis-a-vis personnel which you would attribute to this pressure?

Nate,

Thanks for the tip.

I skipped right over the Boz article. Just went back and read it. It was brilliant and a real dose of perspective and reality.

Let me know if I miss anything else, please.

Funny, sween, very very funny. You got me :)

Have we discussed the special, super congratulatory gift that the 50,000th poster will receive?

You can fool me Danny Boy, I hear the thhecrets that you keep, when your talking in your sleep.

Looks like it will be Briggs. Oh Well, being a skins fan is like when..your the fastest runner, but your not allow to win.

sween, I saw back a couple of posts ago that I repeated "MV Dame (36)" twice. I couldn't very well make up for that later by skipping a number cause some enterprising Insider was sure to catch it and then they would have strung me up by my typing fingers no matter if the skip was warranted or not.

(To be continued...)

"Although wide receiver is not a pressing need, they could be tempted to take one of them at the end of the first round if they trade down."

A trade for Briggs, then a WR???? That would be a true shanbingus on draft day..

Have we discussed the special, super congratulatory gift that the 50,000th poster will receive?

Posted by: John D in Houston | April 27, 2007 02:18 PM

Yeah, a new mouse as the left click button was most likely worn-out from clicking the refresh button.

i will add the most critical thing when evaluating current nfl players as FA's. can they play for you. you know they can play, but can they or do they fit in your scheme?

this where we have missed the boat on good potential FA's, trotter and arch come to mind. both really good players but very, very limited, simply had no skills in any other system.

How we will the 50K historical significance be treated after the fact? Will the commissioner of blog world show up to watch then the last few posts before the record?

(Continuation...)

And then with us making the run to 50K by midnight, I felt that speed was in order so I was looking to jettison any unnecessary ballast that was slowing me down. (##) was the first thing to go.

Make sense?

Nate: If you don't drink, don't sleep, What da do you do?

"I'll wager one million dollars to the charity of anyone's choice, versus the same amount to ALS. If the blood on the sock is fake, I'll donate a million dollars to that person's charity; if not, they donate that amount to ALS. Any takers?"
-- Curt Schilling

TO will swoop in (on his Winged Unicorn)and take the credit for the 50kth.

Actually, given his ever present-ness here, Sean Taylor should post the 50,000th

LB, I wanted to point out that you missed sfskin. She's a great dame.

Speaking of sfskin, and in response to calebt17 and others...

There's no rest for the weary. Once we hit that 50K mark, sfskin has already bellowed the war cry for 100K by Opening Day.

Oy.

"Sean Taylor would eat the phone booth with all 3 rookies inside of it" AMAZING!!!! This draft is deep at spots we need major help at. I know it's hard, but resist the splash. Trade with miami or buffalo...drop a few slots. Then trade with denver who wants to get in that range..they over pay like we do. Grab more picks even if you use the extra picks to get your taget players in the rounds 2-4 range a la Cooley. Grab 3-4 D linemen and a Gaurd maybe...Take a flyer on a big reciever. Our QB is young, all our skill position players are young, Rocky, ST, CR, KG...We have some youth. Keep up the trend and maybe we can be 8-8 to 11-5 every year for 5 years and pick up a piece here or there get on a run and get back to the big game...this boom or bust is getting so old.....As for what will actually happen? We will pick Quinn and trade Campbell to the Dolphins who will pick Okoye at 9 who will sack Quinn 3 times and concuss him in a 35-9 week one loss....Cheers

I want the 50,000th. I am willing to trade a dimebag of catnip and my little sister for it.

Hurray!!! Tomorrow this #6 pick debacle will be all over with and I can rest again!!

Bright Lights, Big City . . . Cyn Cyty hits the big time!

POSTED 8:27 a.m. EDT, April 27, 2007

NFL CONSIDERING ANOTHER REGULAR SEASON GAME

Mark Maske and Cindy Boren of the Washington Post report that the NFL is considering the possibility of adding a seventeenth regular season game in order to accommodate the league's desire to play overseas games.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

After starting my work day 3 hours late (after SWEARING to myself not to post until I finished some things), I forced what I have to get done into the next four hours.

I'm all draft-talked out. Spent. Rumor-talked out, even rumors I made up myself. Seems like we've been through the best-case scenarios and the worst case scenarios (though something tells me there is always something worse waiting to happen out there).

I really really really really don't want them to screw this one up. I can be happy with whoever comes in (trade, draft, whatever). I will embrace idea of the newcomers whoever they are -- whether its Briggs, Vilma, Anderson, Okoye, Branch, Landry, Anderson, Adams, Carriker, whoever. That part is all good.

The "screwing up" part means letting someone get the better of them this weekend, esp. Bears, Broncos, or even the Lions. JUST MAINTAIN CURRENT PLAYER/PICK VALUE. For cry eye loud, just break even on the weekend and hang onto next year's picks!

At this point, I'm happy to talk about the current roster, games over the past season, upcoming games. I might even ignore that the draft is happening ... just to make my last mojo push so that cooler heads prevail. I don't want The Owner picking guys. I don't want Vinny picking guys. I'm not even sure I can trust St. Joe to exercise some skepticism. Frankly, I want happy if BUGES had the final word. Better yet, a coin toss. Just DON'T SCREW THIS UP!

Boris,

I'll trade you next years 50,000 and this years 48,000...

I think the Redkins may finally have this right. You cant draft a DE with the 6th pick. Get a solid LB and a couple of picks and end up with a serviceable DE anyway.

We may not be the prettiest girl at the dance...but at least we're dancing

One other draft comment. Please look out for Buster Davis, the LB from FSU. He is so tight and angry. He goes unmentioned because he isn't that tall, but he is ridiculous. Whoever gets him, is getting one of those Pro Bowlers that everyone wonders why he didn't go high in the draft. He is awesome.

http://seminoles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/davis_buster00.html

Nate

no change, skins have never been a total rebuild type of franchise.failure to secure the franchise QB to build around and the with exception of the ritchie/early Norv years we have been borderline + - 8-8 type of team which reinforces the we are close type thinking

being really really bad for a strecth 3/4 yrs? would or could change the thinking because it might be apparent even to them that we are not close. but as soon as you think that at least based on recent history we make a playoff or near playoff run
so gibbs as coach /president doesn't change the franchise in the way they have allways gone about each offseason. the big (potential difference is Campbell)

MrSpartan, the subtle innuendos follow, there must be something inside ...

Next week, we will have a lengthy period of bloggery, both "good catch" and crying/gnashing of teeth like Sean Taylor tackled our familes.

Then nothing ... till maybe the June 1 cuts and release of the Simpsons movie. I'm prematurely nostalgic.

I got my first real keyboard
Bought it just to get my fix
Blogged until my fingers bled
Was the season of 2006

You guys (gals) better pack a lunch tomorrow, b/c Sean Taylor is taking everyone to school.

Governor, in response to criticism about his height, Fletcher had a great quote -- something like "last time I checked, the running back comes through a hole in the line that's wide, not high."

MV Dame

Gary Thorne just said that the blood on the keyboard was really paint

WTF?

Questions for all you techno guys. Wife and I want to set up our computer, and her laptop, with the whole video/audio capability thingy. I know about Skype. Is that the best? How about web cams? Which ones work well? Someday I'll learn how this whole technology thing does what it does.

Actor Robert Conrad spoke menacingly in a battery commercial, "I dare you to knock this off". Then Sean Taylor suddenly appeared. No one has seen Robert Conrad since.

You guys making a movie or something?

Wow. I double moved with like a 45 minute delay.

Buster Davis of FSU is the new incarnation of London Fletcher. Similar size, similar motivation.

Few people actually know this but it was Sean Taylor that made the guy stand in the corner at the end of the Blair Witch Project.

It's amazing how many analyst no nothing about the draft. Don't they have insiders? :)

We could do a better job.

No movie Cheyenne. Just want her to be able to talk to the baby when she's on her business trip, and apparently these computer things can do that now. Who knew?

If we can finesse a 2nd rounder from the Bears on top of #31 and Briggs in exchange for Rocky and #6, we have got to do it. The people who have seen Rocky perform on a regular basis (Gibbs, Grilliams) since drafting him seem to lack confidence in him. He didn't exactly light up the field when he finally got on it. Briggs is unquestionably a significant upgrade over Rocky, and there is the potential to get two very productive players at #31 and #63, compared to only one quality player (albeit a potential superstar) at #6.

JLC, before we hit 50,000 I'd like a contract extension and don't use the franchise tag on me or I won't post!

4-12 Logitech has pretty cheap cameras that are adequate for what you want to do. They also take pictures in the 1.3 megapixel range. Once you have selected the camera almost any chat program will work: skype, AOL, Trillian, MSN Messenger, CamFrog.

www.newegg.com has a good selection.

Peace.

Has there been any speculation of the skins adding a player to the trade with the Bears.

Sorry I slept on sfskin.

ooh, that doesn't sound good either...

By the midnight hour I'll cry more, more, more.

with rebel yell...

ah, screw it...

I'm getting spent.

Help! The hamsters need more coke!

4-12, I recommend Skype. it's free from Skype ID to Skype ID, just need to install the program on both machines and create two accounts. Easy-peazy.

http://www.skype.com/download/features/videocalling/

BEEP BEEP

NEW POST

This might be a dumb question, but can the Skins actually afford signing Briggs (to the big $ he wants) and sign another first round pick without restructuring some current roster contracts or cutting a veteran player or two in June?

OK, serious up, though.

We won't get anymore out of the bears than what they offered the first time. Why, if they had agreed in principal to do the thing and then thought they could get Rocky too, would they give up anymore tha the original offer.

Hey, Rocky too, Yo' Adrian.

See, spent I tell ya

we'd have to cut some folks, CC. Like prolly Springs and mayhap Washington.

Most likely Washington actually.

Hey, are we going to have to change the SMOOOOOOOOT thing at games this year? GIIIILLLLIIIIIGAN just doesn't roll off the tongue.

CC,
"This might be a dumb question, but can the Skins actually afford signing Briggs (to the big $ he wants) and sign another first round pick without restructuring some current roster contracts or cutting a veteran player or two in June?"

Of course, they can afford to...mortgage the future, amp up the signing bonus.

But when you're only looking ahead to the next season, where does that get ya?

So I'm just walkin down the street mindin my own bidness, mindin my own bidness walkin down the street and BOOOOOM, Sean Taylor dropped down out the sky and killed the M-Fer.

MV,

Here I am, rock me like a hurricane.

CHuck Norris just called, from Sean Taylor's stool.

LB, you got me runnin'! (You got me runnin'!)

Move on over to the new post, my man...

"Don't screw this up", these are the Skins on draft day, I expect nothing less!!! I'm trying to figure out ways we can squander next years draft picks because we don't have any this year. Until the "brain trust" at Redskins Park can run the team like big boy franchises do (Eagles, Pats, Colts,and Bolts)and build through the draft with young players over high priced free agents nothing will change and 8-8 will look good.
If you can move the pick for 2-3 round picks, do that because getting Briggs who is surrounded by really good D and system could be another Armstead or Trotter. If there are no bites make the pick and pray.

Getting my shizzzznnitt in before I clock out.

My kids will be done with testing next week and if the school board hasn't let me go by then I may not see you chaps for awhile. I'll actually have to teach and what not.

May see you all this evening though. Depends on Larry Jr. and Mrs. Mellman

Larry Bud -

The Bears cheapness has been exposed once again by the Briggs deal. Now they have a very unhappy player who wants to leave and other team members siding with him publicly. They have created a situation where they are almost forced to do something that they said they would never do - either pay Briggs with a new contract or get rid of him for the best available price, even if that price continues to go down.

The alternative is to keep an unhappy player who sits out half the season. That's not much of a choice.

Do you guys know there is a new post by Jason on the Briggs deal? Time to refresh and move to the new thread.

you mean to tell me that if we didn't have this glorious blog that we never would have read that story? sweet tuxedo-t-shirt-jesus... thank goodness we have the blog. that was good stuff!

and is there any chance that after the draft or a year from now we can find out who would bet his daughter on that phone booth fight? hahahah great quote.

Terrible pick! The Skins will lead the league in sack futility for the second consecutive season in 2007. Why is Gregg Williams the true head coach of the Skins? 2004 - Taylor; 2005 Rogers; 2006 McIntosh; 2007 - Landry. Ridiculous. We need talent in the trenches on the defensive line. I'm outraged.