Ugh, soccer...

Has anyone heard anything about the redskins going after jenkins. if we could pick up jenkins trade 6 for 14, and be able to get an end there, maybe carriker or even anderson, that would make for a very successful offseason for the skins.

Marlon White says, "I usually didn't pay much attention to sportscenter when "soccer" highlights came on..."

SC shows soccer highlights!?

haha

soccer is a *great* sport

I don't know too much about soccer and can't really seem to get into it.

I find that kind of wierd because when I was a kid I used to LOVE playing kickball.

Look, nice effort, but why do we have to read about soccer? That is so European and so boring.

If they would widen the nets a couple of yards so someone could score, maybe it would be a game. But the nets were designed in 1774 when people were the same size and speed as Dan Snyder -- 4' 3" and about 20 seconds in the 40 yard dash. Goalkeepers are bigger and faster today, but the nets aren't. Boring.

I used to love playing dodgeball. If you can dodge a wrench....

Love the talk of trading down to 14 and picking up Jenkins... that would actually be a great trade. I know he's older, but we still need a third DT for a good rotation and we could still address DE with #14.

the other football. that's a buzz kill

It's the five d's of dodgeball: dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge!

KK;

The fact that goals are hard to come by does not detract from the sport in the least. In fact it makes each goal that more important and exciting.

That would be akin to the NBA all-star game or NHL, no defense, all offense.

The only thing I would change about the game is to tighten down on the diving (i.e. Faking a foul). But since it is so subjective that would probably just muck up the game.

Go to a game, obviously Europe would be the best place, but if the World Cup comes to the US in 2010 (South Africa is supposed to have the tourney, but there are many issues), do yourself a favor. RFK is a perfect venue for a US/Mexico World Cup qualifier as well.

We all complianed earlier about skins fans not being passionate, you cannot get more passionate that Futbol fans!

I was heavy growing growing up so dodgeball is always a touchy subject with me. I'm skinny now so sometimes I want to go into an elementary school and just strat drilling the meanies.

But Im not bitter :)

F futbol/soccer

Jenkins is a very very good player, but I think it's preferable to get the next Jenkins, isn't it?

Didn't Jenkins almost eat himself out of the league last year? Old, injured, out of shape - no thanks.

World Cup soccer is exciting. Can't say the same for MSL - sorry DC United fans.

We could definitely afford to pay asante' samuel if the pats agreed to take springs in the deal.. I don't know if they would want him, but they should be able to afford it (cap-wise) if they were going to pay samuel the franchise amount for 1 year anyway.. i wrote here months back that this is the deal the skins should do, because it works for both teams...
The skins need a shut down corner to replace springs by next year anyway, and if you can get a young guy like samuel and still get a first round pick.. you can't can't go wrong with that.. just remember.. Interceptions 2006: Entire Redskins 6 Samuel 10..
For the Pats.. they love draft picks (since they know how to pick good players) and having the # 6 along with their other 1st rounder, they'd be set to restock their team for the future.. plus with the free-agent reloading they've been doing (for a run this year), springs would suit them just right for the next 2 years..
If spring cooperates (??), in my opinion, this is something the skins should do..

good arguement chris larry. i can see your point.

yuk........ditto chris larry

Cindy, I must agree. Living in NC, I struggle to see Redskins games and am subject to Panthers talk much of the year. Jenkins is definitely a good player, who is on the decline. If we are going to get a DT, it makes sense to use #6 to take Okoye or Branch who have the young legs & motor to stay in the game.

are the redskins at all interested in jenkins? i mean, if this isnt true, can you kill this now?

No more trading picks for players on the slide!

I like Okoye, too. But what I really like is growing a draft pick into a real player. But that's me. That's how I roll.

Jon...,
the problem is neither of those players is worth the #6. We could address two spots of need by this trade scenario... of course we could also address it by trading down and picking up a DE and a DT. I am cool with either...
but it would be nice to get two players with the #6, instead of reaching to grab either a) the kid b) the attitude/work ethic issues, man-eater.

What better player to groom then Okoye who is 19 with loads of upside. I roll like a Cinnabon. Mmmm...delicious.

Inigo, you killed my draft buzz...prepare to die.

Seriously Chris Larry, anon, and any one else who says soccer is boring/lame etc.... What of the sport have you watched to gain such clarity and wisdom? I am not saying your opions are invalid, but as a player and a die hard fan since I can remember... I am persuaded to try to convinve you of otherwise.

If it is MLS, college, the american brand of Soccer which you are forming your opinion... then that is akin to saying Football sucks from watching peewee league.

If you watch good soccer, the best players in the world, you might have a different opinion. We as a culture are spoiled b/c all of the major sports are dominated by the american style/player; As it is in NFL, NBA (not so much anymore, but the sport cut its teeth here), MLB (same as NBA)... But in a sport such as soccer, the best play elsewhere and we are not able to see it at its highest form when we are forming our sporting view of the world (young kid to highschooler).

Case in point is the PTI talk about how mens tennis is horrible now... well, horrible to the american consumer. The best mens tennis player ever is killing records as we speak, but because he is not american, we view it differently. If Tiger woods played in Asia, instead of here, how would golf be regarded right now? Would it make his accomlishements any less stellar?

It is just a matter of perspective. So I say try to gain some on Soccer at its highest form, not your highschool team, or MLS.

MLS is akin to AAA baseball, local and cheap but entertaining as well. Will it sway your interest if you are a passing fan, probably not. You have to go to the major leagues for that, and luckily ESPN and other networks are giving the casual fan that opportunity to expeirence soccer at its highest form.

Come on now, really? Futbol??? I find those desk top metal ball clackers going back and forth more entertaining than futbol.

I came to America so I can watch real football and maybe I can get a spot on the Raiders. Soccer sucks...but it pays the bills.

I loved the World Cup last summer. It was the perfect lazy sport to watch during our neverending heatwaves out West.

That said, the MLS, European leagues, and just about every other form of soccer is too dull for me. I liked the tournament, the national pride, the fans jumping up and down, and the chance to root for both the USA and Australia.

Just get me to training camp. If only they broadcast OTAs :-)

PDSquared,

I think we have to disagree on this one. Any sport which you have to watch "at its highest form" to appreciate isn't much of a sport, at all. Football you can appreciate at all organized levels, not just when it's played between the eight best teams of the NFL. And when we saw the World Cup last summer -- presumably its highest form -- it was settled by a lame official's call.

You can claim that the "fact that goals are hard to come by does not detract from the sport in the least," but I'm not convinced. I've watched 1-0 soccer games and they're much more boring than 5-4, with lead changes, which you hardly ever see.

Now, I accept that this is all subjective, and that a thinking person, like yourself, can enjoy a good soccer game. Personally, I've tried, and I can't. I understand there are even intelligent people who enjoy golf, although I haven't actually met one. But, please, this is Redskins Insider, and no one here really much cares.

ESPN telling me who is on rise or decline for NFL draft,
A blustery 2007 Masters
Tiger Leads in the final round and wins going away...

Oh, what was that you say? Tiger really did not hold the lead, but showed himself to be quite human? Tiger gave the lead away and actually it was Tiger who did not challenge down the stretch?

Wow! What a weekend!

Most important and probably most missed; Easter is a reminder of the Lord coming to earth yet rejected by the hatred of humanity, being crucified, but rising again being vindicated, proving he really was whom he stated himself to be.

Happy Easter Everyone!

KK;

Personally, Highschool football is hard to watch. The talent is low and it is just ugly. Now I grew up with football, loving the sport, but those lower leagues etc are boring to me.

I do not appreciate highschool football. I appreciate college and pros. Europa has the same problem as Highschool.

I guess my point is that you already have an opinion about soccer, so to watch it at its highest form would be the only way for you to get past your biases.

I recently got into golf after having a skewed opinion previously. No one I knew played so it seemed lame. Once i tried to do what those players do, I gained perspective. And since i can aprreciate the skill invloved, I can watch others do it at the highest level.

And goals are not the end all be all of soccer. I know you can appreciate a good lick on the QB, or a great pancake block, because you understand the value of such a play. This is the same in soccer. A good save, pass, slide tackle, volley is the same in soccer. Just as in football, the TD is not the end all be all.

So a 1-0 score is only boring if you do not find value in all the other intrincacies of soccer as I mentioned above. Soccer is more of a chess match, with guile and strategy. Not to say football does not have those, but collisions and big plays are what deifne football as well as play calling and scouting. Soccer does these on the fly , which is why I give it more value in those areas. But, I can find both appealing, so both are interesting.

Did you feel the NCAA's were affected by the officials non-call on Greg Oden of OSU? How did they not give him a technical/flagrant foul when he pushed the player from memphis (?). Then two shots and the ball wins the game for that team. Instead, only a straight foul, two shots then OSU gets one more possession and nails a three to tie it when it should have been a 2 possestion game. So pigeon-holeing soccer with a lame call (which was the head-butt I assume you are referring to, which was absolutely called for and did not affect the game in the end since it went to PK's) is invalid.

But I can agree to disagree all day long. You will find many people here who do like the sport, which is the reason Jason and Cindy discuss it on the blog.

I was heavy growing growing up so dodgeball is always a touchy subject with me. I'm skinny now so sometimes I want to go into an elementary school and just strat drilling the meanies.

But Im not bitter :)

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 9, 2007 12:12 PM

lmao

Trying...to..care...(Sigh)...nope, can't do it.

See ya at the draft.

Anybody can play football, it takes real skill to play soccer. Those who diss soccer are just upset they do not have the athletic talent to play it.

I would like a refund on the minute of my life it took to read that post, please.

Well, I dont think I could tackle CP, but I do tend to agree with your point.

My friend played O-line at Brown, a local guy from Dematha, and he thinks the skills to play soccer are much harder to learn and perfect than those of football players.

One of the issues with soccer in this country is that those players who are good at soccer, and other sports usually leave soccer in the dust at college to pursue acceleing in a sport that pays and has a professional league ie.e NFL, MLB etc. That is why the MLS is a great thing, because some of those kids will stay with soccer, making it better and better in this country. It will take a long time, but slowly and surely it will happen.

The exact opposite is true in Europe where players who used to stay in futball are pursuing basketball, etc. Steve nash played soccer in Cananada (misspelled purposfully) and went to Bball, Mutombo, Parker, Hilario, etc.

Soccer? I hardly know 'er!

Refund given...

Anybody can play football, it takes real skill to play soccer. Those who diss soccer are just upset they do not have the athletic talent to play it.

Posted by: | April 9, 2007 01:42 PM

How is that short bus with the flavored glass?

That is the most ridiculous thing I have read.

In more pressing matters, this picture and caption was posted on the Junkies webpage this weekend:

"So, I'm at Tyson's mall Friday night for the Moss/Taylor/Portis signing. Hanging out in the redskins store beforehand. Chad Johnson walks in like a normal guy. He had just came from Nordstroms, had like 8 bags with him. As I'm standing there with my mouth open he says "I don't see any 85s around here!" Then he grabs a Lloyd jersey and writes "OCHO CINCO" on the back."

http://a900.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/62/l_9302198f551bd14ebd143b8724ac7493.jpg

"Inigo, you killed my draft buzz...prepare to die."

Posted by: JonTPK126 | April 9, 2007 12:44 PM

Inconceivable.

Maybe now that Jersey will sell. Seriously, has anyone seen anybody with one on? I can understand Arch, since he was the next coming of Brad Edwards, but Lloyd?

Hey, I bought a dozen of those suckers. Gibbs better not cut my baby now.

Did you all hear? Pierson Prioleau married an Indian gal in the offseason, moved to the midwest and bought a new home. They just moved into it and dubbed it the PP Tee Pee!

Sorry if this has already been discussed but the Carolina Panthers are looking to trade 27 yr old DT Kris Jenkins. Do you think Carolina would be interested in trading up to the 6th spot and giving up Jenkins and the 14th pick to the Skins? That way we could line up Jenkins with Griffen and perhaps draft Jamaal Anderson or Adam Carriker with the 14th pick. Out D-Line would be much improved. Do you think the Skins would have to give up more then the pick swap?

Kris Jenkins is 27 yrs old. He's not old and I believe he's a local kid who played his college ball at the University of Maryland. I think the Skins have to make this trade if they can pick him up along with Carriker/Anderson at the 14th pick.

So what if Europeans dont like football and Americans dont like soccer. Football is uniquely American, and thats O.K. Europe has many strictly european customs and institutions, and thats what make europe so cool to vacation in. Football was made by Americans for Americans and the game captures the spirit of our nation. I know many immigrants who have moved to this country and fell in love with football, just like Americans who love soccer.

GLOBALIZATION SUCKS!!!!

Rob;

I thought he was over 30. Must have been thinking about the other DT. I say yes, as long as we get a 3rd this year or next.

Wait... soccer is called football/futbol everywhere else in the world? You can't sign up for a football team in England at quaterback? You can drive on the right side of the road over there, right? And carry a gun?

This is a Football blog, do not want to talk about Soccer or Golf... ugh! I need a nap.

Are we seriously going spend ANYmore time on soccer? Sure there is alot of running and you have to be athletic, but come on... isn't this the sport where you FINALLY score and you take your shirt off? Give me a freaking break, keep your soccer and we will continue to watch Sean Taylor knock the breath out of every person he hits. Soccer... was for the kids growing up that were babied by their mommas and couldn't play football. A sport where ties are accepted and ecouraged. What's next? A debate on how cool Duck,Duck, Goose is?!

I think the Jenkins trade would be a good idea. But it would be better to get another pick out of it, like a 3rd rounder, or a couple of late round picks at least. Deffinately makes more since then Briggs or Samuels.

Rumour has it the Broncos are interested in Jenkins.

So bring up a topic to discuss Hail, and stop LURKIN!

Jenkins hates the skins,so he can stay in Carolina for all I care. We need to Trade the 6th for more picks. Only go down a few spots and take what you can get as far as other Picks. Don't get to greedy.

Jenkins will be 28 before the season starts. That would be a better usage of cap space than Briggs or "get paid" Samuels. As long as the skins trade down and pick up an additional pick to draft another dlineman. This deal would be a no brainer. That is if we had a front office that HAD a brain.

rusty trombone

Fair enough... My thoughts on the draft is that we will hold tight until our pick. If Peterson is still there, we will either trade (depending on if these two teams go after M. Turner before then) with the Bills and receive there 1st and 3rd for our sixth and draft Okoye and OG Beekman or trade with the Tennessee for their 1st and 2nd and draft DE Moss and C Kalil.

Fox predicts that Denver would have to give up one of their third round choices to get Jenkins.

http://www.benmaller.com/nfl_rumors_notes#138719

If that's all he's worth to Denver, then it seems like the 'Skins should be able to get him from Carolina with a swap of number 1's plus Carolina's #5.

I can't get over the Brandon Lloyd/Ocho Cinco photo.

that made my day.

ps.

f- brandon lloyd

First off...

I played soccer for 14 years in the DC area, attended UVA where they seem to only win soccer & lacrosse championships and still enjoy watching and critiquing our National Team play, especially in the World Cup (national pride, right). I can't say the same about MLS or the Premier League.

For those of you who don't know, the DC area, along with a lot of other areas across the country, is a hot bed for soccer. For those of you hating on the game, try running for 90+ minutes, with no timeouts and only a 10 minute halftime. ACL tears occur along with various other injuries (I broke my wrist and big toe, in separate games of course). I know that you see a lot of "diving" in soccer to draw fouls, but diving is the equivalent of an offense in football calling a play where the receiver's goal is to get a PI call on a DB.

Growing up, I was able to play every other sport except for football. Mainly because there were a slew of neck/spine injuries during that time frame. I was given the option of playing my senior year of HS, but thought better of it even though the football coach desperately wanted me to play. Shoulda, woulda, could've, but didn't.

Now for Skins business, since I've been a huge fan since childhood. Trading down to get Jenkins and Carolina's pick doesn't seem like a bad deal to me. You get a proven run-stopper, albeit an oft-injured one and a chance to draft a DL prospect. I certainly can live with this trade, but would be extremely disappointed should the Briggs trade come to fruition. Although I would like for the team to acquire more picks than just the one. Maybe Quinn or Peterson fall down the draft and a team like the Dolphins or Vikings give us quite a bit to move slots. Who knows.

Not sure why, but in a lot of mock drafts, Jamaal Anderson's stock has dropped quite a bit. I wonder what the deal is...

Maybe Jenkins hates everyone and everything. Still, it's hard to hate the team that is signing your million-dollar checks.

"Jenkins started 16 games in 2006, and made it back to the Pro Bowl after two seasons that were marred by injury. But he has skipped out on the start of the team's offseason program, despite having a $175,000 workout bonus in his contract.

We're hoping that Jenkins gets traded to the Raiders, so that he can play alongside his idol (eye roll), Warren Sapp. Said Jenkins about Sapp in 2005: 'I hate him. Everybody says I'm supposed to be polite when I talk to you all, but I hate him. He talks too much, he doesn't make sense, he's fat, he's sloppy, he acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. He's ugly, he stinks, his mouth stinks, his breath stinks, and basically his soul stinks, too.'

Jenkins also said that seeing Sapp celebrate on the Panthers' home field after a 2004 game that Jenkins missed due to a season-ending shoulder injury drove Jenkins to stop going to the team's games...

Though Jenkins made a strong comeback in 2006, our guess is that other teams are still concerned about his work ethic, and his ability to stay healthy. It's a risk-reward thing, and the question is whether the potential downside will make another team shy away from a guy who still has a solid potential upside." (pft.com)

Actually, if you look at ESPN's draft value chart (FWIW), then the Redskins first round pick is worth 1600 and Carolina's is worth 1100. The difference is 500 pixie points.

If Jenkins were worth to Denver the #3 that they got from the Skins, then he's worth 240. If the Skins took him, Carolina would still owe the Skins 260 points in a "fair" trade. 260 points would be Carolina's third round pick (200 points) plus their fifth (35 points) and sixth (23 points).

If we get a pass rush DE we don't need another DL. Carter is going to do the job this year. the interior line is decent we just need another DE to compliment the Carter. Our LB's are solid, and our DB's are already improved. Taylor can roam and PP, can cover, Spings and Rogers will get help from Smoot. The DEF. is much more improved then all of last year.

www.soccersucks.net

Hail;

We can always use a good DT. Griff still gets injured and Golston might be a one-year wonder. We need depth to ensure we are up Shtis creek. That was our absolute MAIN issue last year. No DB to step in for springs. No SS to step in for PP.

Draft young DL, get vet DL, TE help and our roster should be complete.

cleveland steamer

Kris Jenkins: Placed on injured reserve by Carolina with an injured right knee (9/14/05)...Placed on injured reserve by Carolina with an injured left shoulder (10/13/04)..Entering 8th year
Why would the Panthers shop him if he had any value left? Let's not follow the Bronco's lead on this. They do not have a good history of picking up FA D-Lineman (Kenard Lang sound familiar? Gerard Warren? Courtney Brown?)

Jenkins is not old. He is only 27. But I'd rather the skins draft there own d-lineman. Let's be a redskins team instead of a free agent team. Remember how Smoot played when he was with the team the first go around? If he can regain that form (He's still youn) he can be a shutdown corner.

Some great draft advice from the best, most professional, classiest, most successful Running Back in the history of the NFL. He is a little biased but I like what he says about the Skill postions. Barry Sanders.

"I think it's kind of sexy, I guess, to get carried away with skilled-position guys(Attn Snyder and FO), but I generally think the skilled-position guys are more interchangeable on the professional level. They get all the attention, and what have you.

"Unless you're talking about a Joe Montana, unless you're talking about a Jerry Rice or a Jim Brown, then your skilled-position guys are interchangeable parts.

"You have to shore up your offensive linemen." (And Defensive Line)Full Article-Detroit News http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070408/SPORTS08/704080302/1126/SPORTS0101

Its Official--Spark it up! "Ricky Williams , the former Dolphin who played in Canada last season after being suspended for a year for substance abuse, has applied for reinstatement."

Thank you, Redskins Ray for that little bit of Christian insight. And though I do celebrate Easter, I think that this is the Redskins blog, not a Jesus blog. Wishing people a Happy Easter is one thing, but trying to tell us what we should and should not be thinking about in a Redskins blog is pretty ridiculous, and pretty smug from the perspective of a person who may not be a Christian. Just my humble opinion.

"You have to shore up your offensive linemen." - Barry Sanders

Posted by: MrSpartan | April 9, 2007 05:28 PM

Not surprising that he'd feel that way considering how he always seemed to be running for his life behind Detroit's line. He sure made it fun to watch though.

A somewhat-accurate, updated expanded roster, if only because it is kind of a slow day. (Any day with a soccer guest blog is, by definition, a slow day.)

Number Name Position Age Height Weight Experience College

5 Casey Bramlet QB 26 6-4 225 2 Wyoming
8 Mark Brunell QB 36 6-1 217 14 Washington
17 Jason Campbell QB 25 6-4 230 2 Auburn
15 Todd Collins QB 35 6-4 228 12 Michigan
46 Ladell Betts RB 27 5-10 223 5 Iowa
30 Nehemiah Broughton RB 24 5-11 250 2 Citadel
31 Rock Cartwright RB 27 5-7 223 5 Ks State
26 Clinton Portis RB 25 5-11 205 5 Miami
45 Mike Sellers RB 31 6-3 260 7 Walla Walla
87 Cedric Bonner WR 28 5-11 170 1 Tx A&M-Commerce
11 Mike Espy WR 24 6-0 195 1 Mississippi
12 Steven Harris WR 25 5-10 192 1 Arkansas
18 Ryan Hoag WR 27 6-2 200 2 Gustavus Adolphus
85 Brandon Lloyd WR 25 6-0 192 4 Illinois
89 Santana Moss WR 27 5-10 185 6 Miami
82 Antwaan Randle El WR 27 5-10 192 5 Indiana
83 James Thrash WR 31 6-0 200 10 Missouri Southern State
47 Chris Cooley TE 24 6-3 265 3 Utah State
83 Eric Edwards TE 26 6-5 260 3 LSU
87 Todd Yoder TE 29 6-4 262 7 Vanderbilt
71 Ethan Albright C 35 6-5 265 12 N.Carolina
61 Casey Rabach C 29 6-4 301 5 Wisconsin
75 Calvin Armstrong OT 25 6-7 325 2 Washington State
76 Jon Jansen OT 31 6-6 308 7 Michigan
60 Chris Samuels OT 29 6-5 310 7 Alabama
74 Todd Wade OT 30 6-8 317 7 Mississippi
76 William Whitticker OT 24 6-5 338 2 Michigan State
67 Kili Lefotu OG 23 6-4 315 1 Arizona
62 Mike Pucillo OG 27 6-4 311 5 Auburn
77 Randy Thomas OG 31 6-5 306 8 Miss. State
69 Ross Tucker OG 28 6-4 310 5 Princeton
72 Taylor Whitley OG 27 6-4 315 4 Texas A&M
99 Andre Carter DE 27 6-4 265 6 California
93 Phillip Daniels DE 34 6-5 285 11 Georgia
92 Demetric Evans DE 27 6-3 280 5 Georgia
67 Jamaal Green DE 26 6-2 258 2 Miami (FL)
78 Joe Sykes DE 24 6-2 266 R Southern University
97 Renaldo Wynn DE 32 6-3 292 10 Notre Dame
95 Lorenzo Alexander DT 23 6-3 300 1 California
73 Ryan Boschetti DT 25 6-4 305 3 UCLA
96 Jared "Santa" Clauss DT 26 6-4 290 3 Iowa
64 Kedric Golston DT 23 6-4 292 1 Georgia
96 Cornelius Griffin DT 30 6-3 300 7 Alabama
94 Vaka Manupuna DT 24 6-0 300 1 Colorado
94 Anthony Montgomery DT 23 6-5 312 1 Minnesota
95 Joe Salave'a DT 32 6-3 295 8 Arizona
50 Khary Campbell LB 28 6-3 250 5 Bowling Green
59 London Fletcher LB 31 5-10 245 9 John Carroll
98 Lemar Marshall LB 30 6-2 227 5 Michigan State
52 Roger McIntosh LB 24 6-2 231 R Miami
57 Anthony Trucks LB 23 6-1 230 R Oregon
53 Marcus Washington LB 29 6-3 250 7 Auburn
34 John Eubanks CB 23 5-10 173 1 Southern Miss
32 Ade Jimoh CB 26 6-1 190 4 Utah State
27 David Macklin CB 28 5-10 206 7 Penn State
22 Carlos Rogers CB 25 5-11 199 2 Auburn
21 Fred Smoot CB 27 5-11 178 6 Mississippi State
24 Shawn Springs CB 32 6-0 204 10 Ohio State
29 Leigh Torrence CB 25 6-0 183 2 Stanford
37 Reed Doughty S 24 6-1 208 1 Northern Colorado
39 Vernon Fox S 27 5-10 197 5 Fresno State
28 Jerrell Pippens S 26 6-2 195 2 Nebraska
20 Pierson Prioleau S 29 5-11 188 8 Virginia Tech
23 Omar Stoutmire S 32 5-11 205 10 Fresno State
21 Sean Taylor S 24 6-2 232 3 Miami (FL)
6 Shaun Suisham K 25 6-0 205 2 Bowling Green
4 Derrick Frost P 26 6-4 208 3 Northern Iowa

This list seems to indicate the draft needs include: a center/OG hybrid, a Daniels/Manley-size DE (Anderson/Carriker?), a TE who can block and catch (Allan?), and maybe an OLB prospect (DeOssie?) prospect. Landry at FS would still be the best pick for the future, but there are so many needs and so few draft picks this year.

Maske is pulling double duty this week, with Jason shopping for PPTPs and Howard working on "Cold Pizza." Here's something that's on Mark's insider now:

Washington Redskins officials are in the process of meeting with the top draft prospects, and LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell is scheduled to arrive in town Tuesday evening and be at Redskins Park on Wednesday.

The Redskins have the sixth overall choice in the draft, and there's no indication that their meeting with Russell is anything more than them doing their homework on all the top prospects. Coach Joe Gibbs has said he's committed to Jason Campbell as the starting quarterback, and team officials say they're in the process of meeting with 15 to 20 leading draft prospects.

Russell is thought to be the top candidate to be selected by the Oakland Raiders with the top overall pick in the draft.

I want some help on D-line, but I would rather have the #6 than Jenkins. The guy is a loud mouth and a younger player would be a better solution. So if we dont get another first rounder, no way.

Macaca, You say you celebrate easter but when someone writes about the history of the holiday and why that is important to them you chastise them. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are the foundations of this country. I will admit some people take it too far and it can be offensive, but when the post is titled Happy Easter, you have to expect people to talk about Jesus. Would you not expect someone to talk about the Decloration of Independence on the 4th of July. I rest my case

Sorry I read Macaca's comments and thought I was in the Happy Easter post.

> This list seems to indicate the draft needs
> include: a center/OG hybrid, a Daniels/Manley-size
> DE (Anderson/Carriker?),

Andre Carter 1st round SF 49'ers, pick 7 2001. 12.5 sacks 2002
Renaldo Wynn 1st round Jacksonville pick 21 1997 (2 picks after Kenard Lang, same year as Shawn Springs)

Cornelius Griffin 2nd round pick 11 Giants 2000.

Philip Daniels 4th round 1996.
kedrick Golston 6th round pick 2006.

Age is a factor with Wynn, Daniels and Springs. A solid defensive end would help. But could be acquired in the later rounds. If the redskins could pick up Asante Samuel they would be able to address this need. But I think Gibbs would be far more likely to go for a wide receiver. Again, cover corners and wide receivers are critical skill positions that a team must address if the right player is available.

> a TE who can block and
> catch (Allan?),

Mike Sellers.

> and maybe an OLB prospect
> (DeOssie?) prospect.

They usually draft 1 or 2. They just lost Molina to the Cowboys.

> Landry at FS would still be

Taylor is enough. Perhaps Springs at FS?

> the best pick for the future, but there are so
> many needs and so few draft picks this year.

They do need more draft picks both this year and next. They need to be really good at both selecting and grooming later round picks. Golston is a welcome rarity.

Periculum what are you talking about? The skins don't even have any draft choices this year. All the skins have to do is draft a defensive lineman and I believe there roster is solid. Besides adding young depth this team really doesn't have any wholes besides the d-line. Folks this team is at least a 10-6 team

Now that the skins have a qb in JC the offense is going to be freakin good. The skins solved the cb issue with a healty spring, smoot, makin, and rogers should be alot better. Mcintosh is going to b a force. Not to mention adding LFB. So the skins will draft a d lineman to go along with A carter and C Griffin. With the same coaching staff in place this team is going to be one of the best teams in the nfc. Someone point out the wholes. Because after the draft I don't see any. What was wrong last year? The defense and Mark Brunell. Well both have been fixed.

The draft is as much about the future as it is about getting immediate help. Few draftees start; it helps them to have someone good to learn from for a year or two. There are a lot of younger DTs on the roster, but not many young DEs. It's hard to say if any of them will step up this year at either position. Golston may well be a star in the future; being a starter as a rookie is a big deal.

As for some of the other starters -

Renaldo Wynn is old and slow.
Cornelius Griffin is beaten up.
Phillip Daniels is getting old and slow.
Mike Sellers is getting old.
Springs still runs like he is young but gets hurt easily.
Andre Carter is a speed rusher, a la Mann. (We need a Manley-type to replace Daniels.)

At safety, Taylor's coverage skills are suspect. In Williams Cover-x defense, both safeties need to have good coverage skills, speed, and sure tackling ability. No one on the roster has the skills set that Landry has. (Taylor is better-suited to strong safety in a standard defensive set; Landry would play free safety.) Springs could play traditional free safety without any more problem than playing CB, but playing him as a Williams Cover-x safety with more close-in tackling responsibilities might lead to a very short season for him.

As good as Asante Samuel may be, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to fit him in under the salary cap and still have room to sign draftees. Doing so would probably require cutting every player that has a high salary and no cap acceleration. The new fiscal reality of the NFL for elite cornerbacks is going to be draft them, sign them, extend them, and them let them go via free agency after 7-8 years. Assuming Springs stays this year, my best guess is the top draft pick next year will be used on a CB.

Mr. Spartan is right. IF you are going to have a good team. You need a dline and an oline. If not you can forget it. Just ask D Carr.

Is anyone else p.o. off that P. Ramsey never got a fair shot here in Washington?

I like the idea of trading #6 for Jenkins, #14 & a 3rd Rnd pick. I think he would be a great addition to our DT rotation, and we can still pick up Carriker or maybe even Anderson in the 1st round. Both of whom probably suit our needs better than someone like Adams. If we stand pat, draft Adams, both our starting DE's will be on the small side, and we'll be a little weak against the run on the edges. Making a trade like that allows us to improve both the DT and DE positions, and gives us a chance to take a young OG with the 3rd round pick.

If anyone knows this information, please enlighten me... I thought I read somewhere that each team has a limited number of personal visits by draft-eligible players. Is this right?

If this is the case, then using one on Russell seems to be not only a waste of time, but of a valuable opportunity to meet someone they could draft whose presence would not potentially dismantle whatever semblance of cohesion and progress the offense (and team in general) has been able to muster. Knowing this F.O., I would expect that the "limited visits" thing is true. Just bringing this guy in can't be good for Campbell's sense of security -- no matter how it may be sugarcoated to him...

Goldenfried - I think the number was 35? I think the reason the skins are looking at Russell is that for example, if the Raiders don't pick him, and he drops to us at #6, we'd like to know his value, so that if there is a draft day trade, we can be on the good side of it for a change.

"Is anyone else p.o. off that P. Ramsey never got a fair shot here in Washington?"

yeah, me, but if JC is going to be as good as I think he is then so be it. Alls well that ends well.

J, I was (and still am) definitely upset over the way Ramsey was treated.

Goldenfried,

I think the limit is 30, so it's a pretty good number. The Skins had visits scheduled with the top 25 projected players in the draft. They also had a mini "combine" at Redskins Park last week with a lot of players who will probably be drafted late, if at all, and some prospects who probably will not be drafted at all. I don't know how that impacts the count against the alloted scheduled visits, but since it was a group event, my guess is that it didn't count against that total at all.

I just did a little googling, and each team is limited to 30 visits from "out of town" prospects. So, the event last week must have been from "local" schools, which would explain how they got around the limit.

Ramsay did get a fair shot here. He also got a fair shot with the Jets. His best course of action would have been to stay here and work with Gibbs and company. Gibbs is known for playing the smartest and toughest QB. Whether its Rypien or Theismann. Neither were 1st round draft pick material. Ramsay opted to act the prima donna like Jay Schroeder. Ask what happened to Jay? He went from being touted as a promising young QB to Jimmy Johnson calling him the worst QB he ever saw. Ramsay did not help himself by asking to leave. He definitely hurt himself.

If Philip Daniels and Renald Wynn are old and slow then so is Shawn Springs. They were all drafted around the same time.

The Skins have a d-line. You aren't going to get Shawne Merriman in this draft. If that was the case then you would go for him. There is no one like him available. Calvin Johnson, LeRon Landry, and Leon Hall would have an immediate impact. NOW SEAN TAYLOR CAN BLITZ. He is not used that way because of the glaring weakness in the defensive backfield. He is considered to be one of the top 5 blitzers without even being used that way YET!?

You don't need a pass rusher that much. YOU already have Carter, Taylor, Marcus Washington and Cornelius Griffin who is not that beat up. Not like Shawn Springs. You also have Marcus Washington. Which is why the experts keep mentioning Amobe Okyoye and Alan Branch who only make the 2nd tier in Gil Brandt's ratings. Whereas Adams and Anderson are right at the top. They believe the Redskins need a run stopping tackle.

Can the redskins stop the run with Griffin and Golston? I think the answer is yes with additional depth. Can the redskins rush the passer with Sean Taylor, Andre Carter, Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, LeMar Marshall, Rocky McIntosh and perhaps Philip Daniels? I think the answer is yes if the free safety and the corners can cover on the blitz.

The redskins let Champ Bailey go. He is in a class by himself. He is worth at least 3 1st round picks. Therefore, you need at least 3 'next tier' down cover corners to replace him. This should tell you something that the 'experts' seem to fail to mention. It is extremely hard to get top notch skill players. Positions like quarterback, corner back, wide receiver and running back can be the hardest to fill. Look at how many 1st round QB's have been dumped? Look at D. Carr indeed! Look at Harrington.

The redskins do still need a top flight wide receiver to compliment Santana Moss. Calvin Johnson would indeed be perfect.

The right mix of 'skill players' in the defensive backfield will make the current d-line look all pro.

Mel Kiper's mock draft has the Redskins picking LeRon Landry at the #6 spot.

Here we ago again. Someone who has not been a frequent visitor to the blog commenting about us letting Champ Bailey go....for hopefully the last time...he WANTED to go.

THROWBACK - LaRon Landry is #6 on Mel's Big Board, that's just his player rankings, in his mock draft he has us taking Adams at #6

Lisa - It still hurts though doesn't it. My dogs name is Champ. sniff sniff

Actually, it's hard to determine if Ramsey really got a good shot here. First of all, the Spurrier system ruined him, then Gibbs was not willing to give him the chances that he gave Brunell. (PR did look quite good in the second half of the Giants game in NY when MB got hurt.)

But on the other hand, no one outside the organization ever got a first-hand look on how well he ran the practices.

Oooops. Sorry, system should have been in quotes.

Soccer, Soccer! Soccer you can't handle the truth! The truth is this town loves football.. the kind where you can use your hands and if you get knocked down it because somebody really pounded you.

The draft is days away. Wake up and smell the scoop.

This is the insider. Drop some nuggets on who's cooking what deal. Talk about undrafted free-agent prospects, anything. Get some insider sources going. Get serious. Cover the Macklin signing for starters.

I think we gathered a fair amount of info on the "Cement Truck" (sounds slow)Fletcher.

In the span of a day last Wednesday, in Kansas City, I had a barbequed turkey sandwich (Gates Barbeque) and barbequed pork (Arthur Bryant's Barbeque). First of all, barbequed meat done right is better than Ruth's Chris sirloin. Secondly, the Gates turkey had a slight edge. Superb sauce. I'm not saying Kansas City is Boston or Seattle on my list of top cities, but I am saying if I lived there, barbeque would be lunch and dinner 14 times a week. Or more.

Ramsey got the shaft. He was ruined by Spurrier and the one guy who could have resurrected him, was in love with his God Buddy in Brunell.

Does anyone think the reason Gibbsy gave some much leeway to Brunell is because he drove Gibbs to the Hospital when they originally met?

Ramsey got the shatf. He was ruined by Spurrier and the one guy who could have resurrected him, was in love with his God Buddy in Brunell.

Does anyone think the reason Gibbsy gave some much leeway to Brunell is because he drove Gibbs to the Hospital when they originally met?

Ramsey got the shatf. He was ruined by Spurrier and the one guy who could have resurrected him, was in love with his God Buddy in Brunell.

Does anyone think the reason Gibbsy gave so much leeway to Brunell is because he drove Gibbs to the Hospital when they originally met?

Ramsey got skrewed. He was ruined by Spurrier and the one guy who could have resurrected him, was in love with his God Buddy in Brunell.

Does anyone think the reason Gibbsy gave so much leeway to Brunell is because he drove Gibbs to the Hospital when they originally met?

Ramsey was ruined by Spurrier and the one guy who could have resurrected him, was in love with his God Buddy in Brunell.

Does anyone think the reason Gibbsy gave so much leeway to Brunell is because he drove Gibbs to the Hospital when they originally met?

Great story on Fletcher.

Loseable ZBlog TYPE!!!! Sorry about that.... double - triple post. The darn site wouldnt update to show me it got posted!

I think it was just Gibbs love of seasoned quarterbacks along with Ramsey's loose cannon mentality. Plus, I think Ramsey's confidence was shot before Gibbs arrived.

Well, hopefully Gibbs sticks with JC through thick and thin. He will have some bad games and having Brunell sitting there behind him makes me nervous.

JC needs to learn. Give him 16 full games to live and learn and then eval whether or not he is the real deal.

GBN:

Rams, Broncs intrigued by Panthers' DT... St. Louis and Denver have emerged as the two teams most interested in Carolina DT Kris Jenkins whom the Panthers are reportedly shopping. Jenkins had been considered to be one of, if not the, best defensive tackle in the NFL, but played little in 2004 and 2005 because of injuries. Jenkins did return this fall and went back to the Pro Bowl, but wasn't as productive as earlier in the decade. The Panthers have reportedly been concerned about Jemkins' weight, which may have approached as much as 400 pounds when he was injured. The fact that Jenkins blew off the first two weeks of Carolina's conditioning program this spring also didn't his cause. Still, no word, though, on what the Panthers are expecting in return for Jenkins, a 27-year-old who is signed through 2009.

Sorry, guys... I've started a relationship with Barry Svrluga from the Nationals Journal blog. I feel so dirty, but I can't stop.

Smoke boys and girls, that's what the next few weeks before the draft are about with the Skins. They got a plan. I think Danny boy likes hearing ESPN speculating in some weird sick way... any news about the Skins is good news to him.

Here's to a long baseball season. Cheers.

So do you guys think we will take Landry at #6 like Mel says, or will we trade down. I like Landry, but we need D-line help...what do you guys think? Just tryin' to start some conversation since we don't have a new post yet.

I like Landry as well. Our last line of D was lacking. I think PP will be solid there, but he is not a potential star, like Landry. I think we can get a younger DE, or DT from another team, maybe at June 1st cuts.

However, I have heard than because of the generous salary cap hike, just like the franchise tags that were doled out b/c of said cap, the players avail at June 1 will not be as high caliber since the better ones will jsut stay with their team and not be a 'cap casualty'... think Shawn Springs. In years past he would be gone no question. Not so now.

Really we need depth/potential starters to get a good competition and provide for injuries.

Greetings Macaca,

I love the Skins and certainly my posting history on this blog reveals I have followed our 'Skins quite closely.

This past weekend was Easter. Who would argue that if the events of that weekend were indeed historical realities they "trump" all other events of mankind... even our beloved Skins Super Bowl victories in 83, 88, 92.

I was wishing everyone a Happy Easter, and was not out of bounds in doing so. Good grief, this particlar thread also includes folks talking about soccer, dodgeball, and barbequed turkey sandwiches! You only took issue with me, and none of those others.

What was clearly revealed was though you said you celebrate Easter, your knee-jerk reaction revealed inner tension in your feeling you had to make the huge leap departing logic [and fairness I might add] suggesting I was attempting to turn a Redskin blog into a Jesus blog. I wished everyone a Happy Easter "once", and clearly your conscience was jolted to have such a defensive reaction launching into attack mode attempting to paint me as the bad guy.

Just make sure the next time anyone mentions any other holiday on this Redskin blog or discusses anything other than the Redskins you go after them as you did me and call them "smug" as well. This will allow us to draw the conclusion that you are indeed fair and not smug yourself.

Hail to the Redskins!

Well, according to Maske, we have about 24 hours until the schedule is released. I can't wait to plan the annual roadie.

Regarding Kris Jenkins:
Boy, he was a tough a few years ago, but does anyone know of statements coming from the Panthers organization regarding his attitude? His work ethic? His recovery from injuries?

Is it the Panthers' belief he is not worth keeping? Have they given up on him?

If so, do we want baggage that is going downhill?

Perhaps Coach Joe could have a serious talk with him, and they could put conditions on him, that he must agree to conform if he comes, or he is released.

Anybody know any more about what Carolina has said regarding Jenkins?

Thanks.

Is anyone else p.o. off that P. Ramsey never got a fair shot here in Washington?

Posted by: j | April 9, 2007 07:50 PM

I've always wondered what Ramsey could have done if he would have come into a better situation. I think the damage has been done and he may never be the same.

You know, I'm starting to think Landry might be the Skin's man at #6. Everyone assumed that the Square (Mr. Snyder, successor to the Squire) was at LSU's pro day to watch Jamarcus Russell, but Landry also performed that day and got pretty good reviews. Is he a need? Probably not, but many think he's the best defensive prospect. Of course, many don't.

We definitely need to force more pressure on the quarterback if we want our defense to succeed and create TURNOVERS!!! so regardless of how the d-line and linebackers look on paper, they did not get it done last year. How many sacks did we have last year?...pitiful!!

There is an issue that has not been discussed and I am not sure how we correct it. What about the Skin's flurry of ill timed and multitude of penalties? It is said to be a coaching issue but I am not sure I can blame them for it. How exactly are coaches supposed to help in terms of game time discipline? If we can correct have of those penalties, I imagine at least 35 more offensive series AND 30 less defensive series. Dcsween/statmaster, do the math...how many addl TD for the Skins would that equal AND how many less opponent TDs? We are talking a 4 game swing at least...not factoring in the horrible timing of when they occurred. Lets also not forget a better d-line would draw more penalties on the other side of the ball as well.

Next Topic...Turnovers. How do we keep a positive balance in this critical category?

Is anyone else p.o. off that P. Ramsey never got a fair shot here in Washington?

Posted by: j | April 9, 2007 07:50 PM

PR was my favorite Skin for a couple of years. It's hard for me to argue with Coach Joe's move, considering Brunell lead us to the playoffs that year, but yes, I do wish he had more than just 1 quarter to prove himself.

I rarely root for other players when they leave this team, but he is a guy I will always root for. Hopefully he'll get another chance somewhere and take advantage of it.

Lisa,

I don't know if you're near a TV right now, but Sean Springs (with his dad) is on Cold Pizza on ESPN2.

I, too, am a big Ramsey fan, but sadly he's pretty much shot, in my estimation. One year under the Spurrier "What's That?" blocking scheme undoubtedly shattered much of his confidence, and I don't think he was given much of a chance to recover from that under Gibbs. Maybe he'll be as fortunate as Carr and find someone that'll work with him, but I have my doubts.

And as to creating turnovers, a defensive pass rush from just the front 4 would be a nice change. It would also help if the defense didn't define covering wideouts as 'standing 10 yards back from the line of scrimmage', too....

While it's clear Gibbs had a mancrush on Brunell, if Ramsey was that good he would have gotten a shot in DC, or in NY, or somewhere else.

In retrospect Ramsey was an overrated prospect. He wowed everyone before the draft with his strong arm, but there are 20 prospects every year with a strong arm. What separates the good QBs is their smarts, not their arm.

I liked Ramsey too, but so far he's proven Joe was right. He's a back up.

Justme, thanks for letting me know that. Wish I could have seen it. We actually do have TVs in my office - which are usually on CNN :-(

What did Swoop/Manimal say on Cold Pizza? I was under the impression that he doesn't actually have the ability to speak out loud.

Ramsey fans,

First of all let me start by saying that Ramsey was a tough SOB and I loved to watch him play...
but he isnt a starting NFL QB. He couldnt do it here and he cant do it in NY.

So please stop it with the BS Ramsey didnt get a fair shake crap. He got pulled after the first game of the 05 season, but he freakin STUNK in the preseason... Gibbs was not wrong to let him ride the pine, sorry.

And another thing, that crap about Brunell and Gibbs being buddies or Bible buddies is screwed up. Ramsey went to freakin Church, hell Brunell and Ramsey went to Bile study together. Gibbs loves the veteran QB, he paid too much for Brunell and let him play for too long. But please do not turn this into a Christian-Favoritism thing. Thats just wrong. It was a football decision, nothing more.

I rarely root for other players when they leave this team, but he is a guy I will always root for. Hopefully he'll get another chance somewhere and take advantage of it.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | April 10, 2007 10:25 AM

I also find myself rooting for him. I do wish that he was still the back-up here. He handled the whole benching thing like a real pro and I admired the way he stuck in there during the no-blocking yrs of spurrier.

I don't get all this blather about Gibbs and Brunell -- "man crush," "fellow Christian," "drove him to the hospital," "proven veteran," etc.

The thing about Gibbs is that he wants to win more than anyone of us. It's his reputation that's on the line. Do any of you really believe he would reduce his chances of winning by playing his second best quarterback?

Ramsey had more than one quarter. He had two years. Gibbs watched both these guys in practice, every day. None of you guys did. And, if you had, do you really believe you're a better judge of QB's than Coach Gibbs?

Ramsey looked terrible in the pre-season games when he was the starter. Terrible. He didn't grow, he regressed. He made bad decisions. He hung on to the ball too long. He threw picks. Brunell made good decisions, and he took the 'Skins to the playoffs. Do any of you really believe we would have done better with Ramsey as QB that year?

Ramsey has had as fair a chance as anyone gets in pro ball, and he simply didn't measure up -- either in this organization or for the Jets where his competition was...Chad Pennington.

Lisa,

Cold Pizza repeats at noon, so if you can get near a TV around 12:30p, you might be able to catch them.

Long weekend away. Folks in town to visit their grandkids. LOTS this weekend, can only blurt out now.

Otter (4/7, 3:43pm), good analysis. BB (#1) here. See above.

I agree with MrSpartan 100% (and by extension, Barry Sanders) about the O-line. Skill players (QB, RB, WR) can do NOTHING w/o a solid line up front. See Arizona (Leinart, Edge, Boldin, and Fitzgerald at skill ... 5 dead bodies on the O-line ... they are who we think they are).

MrSpartan, totally agree about penalties making all the difference, but it seems that concentration is uncoachable. The SKins' O-line was WAY better at penalties, esp. offsides, this past season than seasons past. Fewer penalties (esp. the bogus -- and automatic -- unsportsmanslike calls against Sean Taylor) have to good for at least one possession a game. Can't even guess how many times a penalty was the difference btwn a first down vs. a punt.

Like everything else that's important in life, the Simpsons explains my feelings about soccer as the family watches a promo on television ...

TV Announcer: The Continental Soccer Association is coming to Springfield! It's all here--fast-kicking, low scoring, and ties? You bet!

Bart: Hey, Dad, how come you've never taken us to see a soccer game?

Homer: I...don't know.

TV Announcer: You'll see all your favorite soccer stars. Like Ariaga! Ariaga II! Bariaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!

Homer: Oh, I never heard of those people.

TV Announcer: And they'll all be signing autographs!

Homer: Woo-hoo!

TV Announcer: This match will determine once and for all which nation is the greatest on earth: Mexico or Portugal!

This Easter I gave my daughter a chocolate cross. Bought it at Giant where they had a big stack of them. I told her Jesus died so she could have candy. That's the true meaning of Easter.

I still root for Ramsey, too. And some of you are talking like you don't know he's on the Broncos. With Cutler being young and Jake being gone it's possible PR presses to start. Sometimes all a player needs is the right situation.

I also still root for Gus and Sage. Sometimes I wonder how some of these long-time starting QBs would do if they had to change teams and/or systems every other year.

No love for Gibran Hamdan, skinfanman? That's cold.

What about the possibility that the skins might trade up for the Lions pick so as to draft Joe Thomas from Wisconsin? Anybody else hear that one?

Is Hamdan in the league? He might be able to start for the Raiders.

Last word I heard about the Lions was that they wanted to trade down and take Willis. Wouldn't be surprised if Thomas fell to the Cards. But it looks like the Skins are ok at OT. Only possible question on the OL is LG. The only rumour I've heard about that is they like Grubb. Grubb would be a good pick at #28 or #31.

what does the GSH patch stand for that was on the Skins jerseys a couple of times?

Man I need the schedule to come out soon so I can plan to get up to DC. The only thing we got here is Bristol Motor Speedway twice a year. Besides the NFC East games, which game do you think will be the best one to come to at FedEx?

Posted by: | April 10, 2007 11:56 AM

There is a little box above the comment section where you post. It is called "NAME" Put your name in so we know who is posting. The patch is "GHS". It is for Danny Boy's father, who passed away.

The patch is "GSS" not "GSH" or "GHS" and was a memorial for Gerald S. Snyder, was only worn in the 2004 season. "GSH" is on the "Bears" uniform sleeve.

GSH on the BEARS uniform is a tribute to George Halas, legendary NFL Visionary and original owner of the Bears.

Let me jump in here on the whole ramsey /QB debate.

Ramsey and many QB's in the league lack the most critcal trait that is absolutely positively essential for NFL QB success .... Quick and accurate decision making and pocket presence. Thats it, if have that you can play QB in the league, if you don't you can't. can you make quick accurate decisions and throws in less than 2.5/3 seconds with 300 hundred pound poeple trying tackle you with crowd noise, weather, pressure situations, etc etc.Ramsey cleary could not do that. don't blame it on the ball coach its just a next level thing, there are 100 college level QB's every year that can make all the throws have all the tools etc etc , but need 4/5 sec to drop make the read and throw problem is in the nfl you only get 3. That was ramsey's problem, if you dig further he also lacked pock awareness ( the sense that trouble is comming and where it is comming from)

JC on the other has shown in 7 games good pocket awareness and despite poor footwork and long delivery he doesn't panic, steps up and slides well to buy more time stays focused downfield.the technique can be worked on the "feel" for the pocket/game you have or you don't. that is what gets exposed at the pro level.

Sween bringing the Simpsons... love it.

The best was when the announcer at the game in english was getting bored; "passes it the middle, back to the back, he holds it, holds it, Hooollddddss it (with a how hum attitude)... turn to Spanish announcer; "passes it to the middle, (getting louder) back to the back!, (even louder) he holds it, HOLDS IT, HHHHOOOLLLDDDSS IT!.

Gotta love than show

MrSpartan

Thanks for the correction

I'm not sure the skins wouldn't trade for an OT the caliber of Joe Thomas. I definitely see the need for a DT or DE, but both Jansen and Samuels could be considered on the downward curve, Jansen more so. They may decide that they really need to build for the future this time instead of trading for a vet that might cause them cap pain.

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Wow... Chris Henry is suspended for the first 8 games of the season, and Pacman Jones is out for the entire season. The league isn't playing with these dudes at all.

I hope they use this as motivation to get themselves together. Good football players. It's time they become good men.

Well put Old School (@ 12:31 PM), well put.

So many discussions about NFL QBs end up neglecting the most crucial aspects to a QB's success: poise and decision making.

There's a reason Jeff George never made it as an NFL QB.

Damn! With the #_ pick in the NFL draft, the Tennessee Titans pick CB_______- from _______

Welcome to the Rodger Goddell era folks!

Apparently Pacman can apply for reinstatement after the 10th week of the season.

While I believe suspension was warranted, I'm not sure of the reasoning for putting him out of the league for the entire year. Chris Henry has been charged and convicted of at least 3 crimes and he only got 8 games. But, Pacman has only been charged once, convicted of nothing, and he has to sit the entire year. I think Goddell jumped the gun on that one and should have started with a shorter suspension and added to it if any of the pending charges actually materialized.

Where do the Titans pick in the draft? You think they might want to trade up to get Leon Hall at #6? Gibbs needs to see if Grilliams can broker that deal. LOL

Re: Henry and Pacman, don't hold your breath for too long b4 the NFLPA appeals the decision -- probably more likely to be about Henry b/c Pacman became a poster child. If Pacman wants to play again, he should resist if the NFLPA tries to appeal his penalty. If the NFLPA can appeal w/o Pacman's approval, then he definitely should say he opposes their appeal (regardless of whether he does or not).

My recollection about the history of player suspensions (correct me if I'm wrong -- I'm sure we'll hear lots about this given the news drought) is that the longest one was for the Haynesworth Polka, and that was five games ... and it was for on-field conduct. Has the league EVER suspended anybody for off-field conduct? [I'm not asking rhetorically -- I just don't know.]

Redskins.com says the NFL schedule will be released tomorrow. Can't wait. I predict one nationally televised game on Sunday night for the skins.

JustMe;

The problem with Pacman is that he did not divuldge the fact he got arrested for some of his 10 arrests (cant remember how many). That is the reason, i assume, he got the year. If he was forthcoming, then he would have gotten 8 games as well.

Trying to purposfully mislead the NFL is more detrimental than actually having off the field issues.

JustMe, I agree mostly, except that Pacman is getting suspended for two guilty pleas that he entered previously and failed to report to the team. The recent Money Raining incident made him the poster child, but (at least in theory) that one is not part of this suspension. Titan's pick is #19, and I still think they will be part of that group looking to trade up for Adrian Peterson (along with the Bills and the Packers).

Gibran Hamdan signed with the Dolphins earlier in this offseason.

a new post has popped up like toast.

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Chris Henry and Pacman got suspended because they behaved like spolied children. Just because you "got paid" does not mean you can act like an idiot. The NFL is a priveledge. Unfourtunatly a small percentage of today's younger players, (1,2,3 years), do not understand that.