could it be FIRST!!!

Their reaction can be taken either way. I think they are just sick of the reporters asking the question.

In the immortal words of AI:

Practice!?! Practice!?! We're talkin' bout Practice!?! Not a game but Practice!?! Practice!?! ...

I don't think its frustration with Taylor that is the problem, I think its asanine reporters asking why a guy didn't show up to VOLUNTARY workouts on-time. Who cares, he doesn't have to be there. We had everyone but 2 people show up, thats better than most NFL teams. I'm personally sick of hearing about Taylor, he hasn't done anything wrong yet people still won't get off his back. More people need to look at themselves and figure out why they care whether or not Taylor shows up on time, gotta be something better to give all your attention to...

I think you are overblowing the situation.

Don't mean the previous comment to be taken negatively towards the GB, just my personal frustration at the medias attempt to create stories. That was a better guest blog than most I've seen on here.

puck,

Yes, I am. But then I'm a cracked out hamster.

Thanks Wickett! No offense taken. Your opinion is of course the more rational of the two. I tend to think that the frustration Taylor's teammates feel from the media could eventually spill over onto him depending on his attitude. Based on Howard's article today I'd say he is in the "say-all-the-right-things" mode. So that's a good sign.

Larry Bud, I don't understand your rationale since the media DID talk with Sean Taylor - at length. He was very pleasant, personable, and answered all their questions. Obviously, the media decided to talk with the other players as well. I saw the show and they simply looked exasperated with being asked the same questions - not exasperated with Sean.

In the immortal words of Billy Shakespeare, "Much Ado About Nothing". It didn't matter that he wasn't there, and now it doesn't matter that he is there. Offense doesn't pay attention to the offense - they are too busy learning Big Al's newest wrinkles (about 200 more pages worth). Offensive players only care if there is live hitting - then they demand to know where Sean Tay is at all times. That doesn't happen until August.

It's May - the TV and radio guys have nothing better to do but ask dumb and repetitive questions when they have airtime to fill. (Unlike the Wash. Post, where there is no article unless there is something worth writing about.) The radio/TV hacks couldn't ask Gibbs about it yesterday because he "wasn't available" (trying to get their stories straight in the FO, no doubt), so all they can do is bug the other players, who don't really want to be bugged about anything. (Tomorrow, the same clowns will be asking the players what they think of Portis' playoff predictions. That should be another popular question.)

We've all got to remember, Art Monk barely ever talked to the media, and he's one of our most beloved 'Skins. We can't get upset at the Punter Hunter for not talking to the media. That's his right. It just gets much more publicity now due to the proliferation of sports-talk radio, and the ESPNization of sports in general.

Oh yeah, and I hate Mark Brunell. He should retire immediately and go run a car dealership in Jacksonville. It doesn't require any arm strength.

"Punter Hunter"

Love it!!

Lisa basically sums it up well. ST talked to the media. He was friendly, etc. Don't make this out to be something it is not.

Stop grasping at straws just to create some type of story.

Reading to much into it.

Is this guest blog really written by Steve Czaben? This is a classic radio-jockey-type made up story that pretends to have some sort of insight, when it is in fact blowing hot air for the sake of making waves.

Guest Blog Gets...Two Thumbs Down.

Reading too much into it.

Is this guest blog really written by Steve Czaben? This is a classic radio-jockey-type made up story that pretends to have some sort of insight, when it is in fact blowing hot air for the sake of making waves.

Guest Blog Gets...Two Thumbs Down.

LB- nice blog- thanks for taking the time. Can't say I agree too much, though. Regurgitating the last few comments: it's early, this is practice, pls stop all asking the same stupid question. Mountain of a molehill.

I don't blame any of the players if they choose not to speak with the media. They are asked the same questions over and over...especially after a loss....and what they say can be twisted to make them (and the Skins)look bad.

Gibbs is a primary example of this. Steve Czabe (who I dislike) was talking about it this morning and I actually agreed with him. Czabe said that during Gibbs 1 there was no media parade as it exists today and that Gibbs has been unprepared with how to deal with it.

Brunell showed up for OTAs, at least. I saw an outtake in the local news sportscast this week (in DC) with Brunell and JC yukking it up during workouts, so it's possible that bloggers feel more "hate" for him than his teammates do.

Larry Bud:

Thanks for putting your neck out there and I hope your critics will do the same sometime soon. Teddy Roosevelt had a great (but lengthy) quote on the subject http://thinkexist.com/quotation/it_is_not_the_critic_who_counts-not_the_man_who/12121.html. You may well be picking up some signs of dissatisfaction. I am hoping there are strong-enough leaders in the clubhouse to pull the youngins aside and get their heads straight. However, those days may be gone...

hey!

that wasnt about mark brunell at all!

I can't imagine that annoyance with media questions would be redirected toward a player who rarely speaks to the media. If he acted like TO, it might be as Larry Bud suggests.

Is ST's team-oriented sound bite an indicator that he's matured and is ready to become a true leader?

Whoops - that link did not resolve well. Here is another...http://www.yuni.com/library/docs/645.html

Obviously, I'm not as cracked out as some. I only saw what was posted on the skins site and then ST shunning the media like Dwight shunning Andy from the office.

If he did talk at length with the media, as Lisa says (I believe you 100%, by the way) then good for him. I'm sure that will be a relief for the whole organization and for me personally.

I still think that some of the resentment toward the media could come back to ST. Sellers looked like he was going to hit someone.

And although I take umbrage at the comparisson to Czaben, I have to think that a silly little blog by an a$$ clown like me is hardly an attempt to create news. You give me way too much credit, Greg/Tinks

Oh, and I think it is a bit of a false analogy to compare ST to Art Monk. I'll admit that ST's recalcitrance is not a crime nor should he feel obligated to talk to the media for any other reason than to calm people down, which it sounds like he did.

Mark Brunnell is the taint of the Redskins organization.

I like the idea of him as a car salesman in Jacksonville, so long as their used cars, preferrably for people with bad credit, and full of horrid commericals featuring athletes bobbing their heads or creating commotion in a search for the best deal. Wait a minute... that's Eastern's. God, I miss Maryland.

Brunell shows up for OTAs because it is his only chance of getting another paycheck. Another "me me me" move by Brunell, just like last year when he knew his shoulder was hurt but wouldn't take himself out of the games. How much did his plink-plunk passing style help the team last year? I'm sure his teammates loved him for that.

If we had made the move to Campbell earlier in the year, we'd be off so much better this off season. The kid has talent, I think that he just needs some more time in the game.

Brunnell is selfish and washed up. The only thing that he accomplished last year was the record for most consecutive passes... AGAINST HOUSTON no less! What a joke. Almost as much of a joke as Todd "I really did play at Michigan" Collins, at least he keeps the practice squad warmed up.

Does anyone miss Tim Hasselbeck? I thought that he was a competent back-up.

Reading way...way...way too much into this one. The only thing the players are getting tired of are the same stupid questions over and over again about why a guy didn't show up for voluntary workouts. If you watch any of the games the players love Taylor. He's a beast and they know it. He is the cornerstone that this defense will build around, two full seasons from now (when Gibbs goes back to being the cuddly Grandpa he never really left being) when Cowher (please God, just this one thing and I'll never ask for anything agian) comes in the only starters from this defense that will still be starters when he gets here (for the Redskins) will be Taylor and Landry for sure and maybe McIntosh or Rogers but that's it. Every other one will be gone for the reasons below:

Springs- age, salary, injuries

Marshall- overachiever anyway just won't be good enough

Fletcher- age, salary, he is a two year signing

Washington- Love him but salary and injuries

Griffin- Age, Injuries

Golston- Young high motor guy but a rotation DT at best.

Smoot- might still be on the team but won't be a starter (hopefully)

Carter and Daniels- shouldn't be starters now and hopefully one or both won't be come June 1st cuts.

Everyone knows he and now Landry are the only real solid peices of our defense going forward. They don't dislike him, they're just tired of the stupid repetitive questions.

Jack, your crystal ball makes my head hurt. NFL personnel prognostications two full years out?? Dude, I can't even think beyond the '07 opener.

I think Brunell may be the nicest guy on the face of the urf, I just don't want him playing QB for my team. Great having his experience as a backup, I guess, but again I do NOT want him going into a game.

Larry Bud, good work with the guest blog. Nothing wrong with that at all.

And I LIKE that we're making mountains out of the OTA molehills. We've gotta, if we have any shot at 100k by kickoff.

Some stuff on Saunders -- who in my opinion, along with Soupy, has a lot to prove this year -- from redskins.com. Nothing new here, but it gives me some hope for them and the offense as a whole:

"Saunders had tremendous success in 2005 leading the Kansas City Chiefs offense to a number one overall ranking in the NFL for the second consecutive season.

"In 2005, Saunders coached the most explosive offense in the NFL, leading the League with 70 total plays over 20 yards including an NFL-high 15 touchdowns. Kansas City also led the League in yards per play (5.85) and topped the NFL in eight other offensive categories.

"In 2004, the Chiefs led the NFL in total offense for the first time in franchise history, accumulating a franchise-record 6,695 yards or an average of 418.4 ypg. In the process, Kansas City established an NFL record with 398 first downs, breaking the previous mark of 387 set by the '84 Dolphins.

"In total, the 2004 Chiefs ranked in the NFL's top five in each of the four major offensive categories for the first time in team history: total offense (1st-418.4 ypg), scoring offense (2nd-30.2 ppg), pass offense (4th-275.4 ypg) and rush offense (5th-143.1 ypg).

"Last season, Kansas City also led the NFL in 24 different offensive categories, while tying or breaking 18 different single-season team records, including marks for offensive TDs (58), third-down conversion percentage (47.2 percent), most games with 400 or more yards of total offense (nine) and most consecutive 400-yard games (five)."

First 40,000 tix to London game sell out in 90 minutes...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10184423

Hey Cindy, what are the big topics for the owners' meetings next week? Anything we should be paying attention to?

nice story

Larry Bud, did you write up the blog prior to Taylor showing up? Couldn't tell from the writeup.

If the media questions for Santana, Sellers, and Campbell were AFTER he came back, then I share their disgust. What a non-issue!

"Okay, when is this shunning thing going to end?"
"Un-shun. Never. Re-shun."

Nate,
Thanks for the kool aid. I agree Saunders has a lot to prove after last season. And I really, really want to believe...

In the interest of 100k, your previous post stated Brunell was a good backup but you didn't want him going into a game (?) ...are you conflicted, or would you'd just keep him on the roster because he's best available for now?

The owners will be salivating over the untapped international market (40,000 tix link).

sween,

They were after he showed. Sellers commented on how thin ST looked. Now, I'm not sure, but it might have been before he spoke to the media. I was unaware that he spoke to anyone other than the skins site people. They definitely didn't braodcast anything on the 6AM version of Sports Rise, which was probably left over from last night anyway.

They're not yelling "Bruuuuuuuuuu-nell", they're just yelling "Boooooooooooooo"

What the heck did I mean when I said Brunell was a good backup but I didn't want him going into a game... I love the experience and all that, which would make me feel comfortable if Brunell went in during garbage time and handed off for the last series of the game. He doesn't make me nervous like any of the less experienced guys would. ANd of course Gibbs loves him like the son he never had.

But as a player Brunell has no remaining upside. NONE, zip, zero, zilch. So if God forbid Campbell were out for a game or more, it would be awful to see #8 as our acting first-string QB.

Yeah, I guess that makes no sense. I'm just rambling at this point.

Jack,

I'll concede that I'm a conspiracy theorist on the paranoid side of the street, but Cowher???? How about Grimm? I'd rather not have another guy that burned out on Head Coaching. I love Saint Joe, and think he can turn this around, but I think Cowher would hae a rough time here.

"ANd of course Gibbs loves him like the son he never had."
-Nate

Ouch! Cody played QB... In high school...

I think it is a bit overblown just simply because ST did talk with the media and did answer those questions. He actually refused to talk to the media all last year if you remember so this was somewhat of a story, that he actually DID take questions. Hopefully he's matured some...

As for Brunell....Couldn't agree more about the selfishness. That is two out of three years he has been here that he continued to play (AND THE COACHES CONTINUED TO LET HIM PLAY) when it was clear that he couldn't throw the ball. His first year here he was hurt, had no zip on the ball and totally sucked. It was a leg/knee injury then. He knew about it. Then Ramsey is named QB. MB gets healthy and looks great. Good arm strength, throwing with zip on the ball and playing well. This past year, it is painfully obvious he can't make the throws he needs to and yet JG still lets him play. Then we find out he's injured. How DUMB was that!

MB -- nice guy, definitely past his prime and probably done. But at least we didn't give up any draft picks for him right before he was about to get cut by the Jags and pay him twice market value for him (tongue in cheek....)!

Nate, about the Saunders' 2005 stats, while they are impressive, you can't get 5.85 yards per play with a rush-heavy offense. Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes were part two to a pass-heavy offense. I'd be interested in seeing what the points scored/points allowed ratios looked like. A rush-heavy offense has lower scoring, but it also keeps the defense off the field, meaning fewer points allowed.

That said, sure would be nice if the Skins could put up 5.85 yards per play ...

Oh, and the Saunders thing... I wasn't trying to say I'm so drunk on Kool-Aid that I think our offense will be as good as KC's was in 04 and 05.

Just that there are a few reasons to hope for a better offense than last year's, an offense which will sustain drives and score points and not infrequently strike with a big play. The sorts of things that were hard to believe in when Brunell was QB and the 700-page playbook, still warm from Kinko's, was being distributed to all the lads for the first time.

Hmmm ... having seen this many, many times in the past ... sigh ... its time to ask the question what could be worst? I am Joe Theismann and I am the QB for the Redskins in their 2MD super bowl in a row. Our team completely dominated the competition from the onset of play. I am great. So, its perfectly fine for me to have wild sex with Kathy Lee Crosby (cute animal show host) when my wife "isn't looking" just before the game. And its fine for me to lose my attention in said game and do things like throw rocket screens near my own end zone to Howie Long.

I am Doug Williams. The very first black QB to win a super bowl. I was a number one of number ones for the Tampa Bay Bucs. I am great. I accuse my wife of cheating on me in public ... but when the facts are revealed it is actually I who was doing the cheating ... on many, many occasions.

Sean Taylor is basically a good kid who has some attitude and possibly anger issues. These reflect in both his play and his "passive aggressive" behavior toward Redskins management. He thinks they ripped him off. His comportment really went off the deep end when he thought some folks down in Florida stole his new truck.

He may be right about the Redskins. But he still needs to PLAY LIKE A PRO BOWL SAFETY to prove that he IS RIGHT and SNYDER is wrong. THEN GIBBS WILL go to bat for him.

Oh, please. Do you really think MB's "selfishness" has anything to do with the coaches' decisions to use him. We learned since last season that Jason Campbell didn't even practice with the first team, so he had ZERO experience until MB was taken out after a winning season was no longer possible. If anything, MB is ver UNselfish, a team player.

You know I love all the Brunell haters(this is my sarcastic face)

It was not that long ago that he got us to the playoffs...he played hurt, restuctured his contract which gives him more time to mentor young Soupy, and he has been a stand up guy all around.

I would like to say that to call him the "taint of the organization" is RIDICULUOS, but since I am dyslexic I will simply call it RRCIDLOUSDR

So there are 6 QBs now on the roster. Who is number three?

Jason Campbell (stays)
Mark Brunell (gone)
Todd Collins (stays)
Sam Hollinbach
Jordan Palmer
Casey Bramlet

....blah blah blah.....

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2007 03:06 PM

HUH?!?!?!?!

I see how it is, when Brett Favre who hasnt had a QB rating higher than my Blood Alcohol Content in three years plays hurt he is considered a hero and/or brave.

Bunch o' crap.

ummm..Rocket Screen to Jack Squirek (sp?)

I think that it is entirely possible that Gibbs goes to MB and asks him -- you alright? MB "Yeah, shoulder's fine". Gibbs says "Good, you're still the starter".

I fully agree that Gibbs bears a LARGE part of the blame. If he knew MB had a shoulder problem (and if he watched the tape showing him incapable of the deep ball -- and he must have because the offense was tailored to his dink/dunk limitations), then it is his fault that he 1) continued playing MB and 2) that he didn't get JC ready sooner.

The worst thing that happened to us last year was that win over Houston. Gave Gibbs the false sense of security that all was fine with MB. IT WASN'T. And MB had an obligation to say something, IMHO.

On a related note, why did it take the offenseive gurus at Redskin park 10 games on consecutive years to figure out that we needed to (and COULD) run the ball??? Seriously! They "discover" the run late in the season two years in a row and we're suddenly in games!

I did not see any disgust on Santana or Sellers face when asked about Sean Taylor. Sellers pretended to not know who Taylor was but he was trying not to smile....and then he said that Sean was "phenomenal" and that he looked thinner so you can tell he has been working out. Again, to those of you who did not see Taylor's interview, he was so engaging and personable he could have been a choir boy. He has a really nice smile.

Stumped, I don't see how Collins stays. He's 52 years old and has thrown seven NFL passes. Definitely NOT the guy you want buckling his chinstrap if God forbid Campbell goes down. Too many known unknowns. At least with Brunell we have known knowns.

Collins can stick around on a volunteer basis to wash Saunders' car and mentor the new third-stringer.

I'll concede that I'm a conspiracy theorist on the paranoid side of the street, but Cowher???? How about Grimm? I'd rather not have another guy that burned out on Head Coaching. I love Saint Joe, and think he can turn this around, but I think Cowher would hae a rough time here.

Posted by: Larry Bud | May 16, 2007 02:55 PM

Bud, no offense, but you just invalidated your guest blog status by saying you would rather have Grimm over Cowher. Are you insane? Cowher is still pretty young (50 years old), and he didn't burn out as a head coach he just wanted a break (and has said so in several interviews) and wanted to move on from the Steelers. Anybody can understand wanting a new challenge after doing everything that he did in Pitt., he has a chance to put his name on the short list of all-timers if he can turnaround a once proud franchise (that currently always thinks it is better than it really is) and return it to greatness. And you know that no club would pay more than the Danny. You would actually rather have a guy with no head coaching experience than a relatively young first-ballot hall of fame coach like Bill Cowher? The entry exam for guest blogger must be easier than I thought.

sween, 'Canes, 'run-first' play calling could be the key to the offense this year. Heck, the Gibbs/Saunders detente on play calling philosophy could be more important than Campbell's development.

I haven't evoked rage in a while, so I will step out on the limb and say that I am AOK with Brunell when healthy. That said, I do agree that he cannot be trusted to come clean when he is hurt. The coaching staff needs to decide for themselves, based on EVERY hit and Brunnell's immediate response, whether he is hurt and should stay on the field. Otherwise, he's a fine #2 QB.

Love the name Punter Hunter.

On Sean Taylor, I don't need to see more game film or see more maturity. I say re-sign him at the same time as signing Landry ... don't risk going into the season (esp. if it does turn out to be a good season) where his value increases further. Just make sure that he (Taylor) gets more money than Landry in his (Landry's) first year. After that, its an open competition. With the Punter Hunter contract, make sure the structure of it is heavy with incentives for superior play (and includes disincentives for conduct that might lead the Commissioner to deprive the Skins of Punter Hunting). Then run the risk that the Punter Hunter will indeed earn the performance incentives (i.e., a risk of busting the salary cap such that significant numbers of vet minimum players need to be cut).

Supposing to know what might be in the afformentioned players minds is as assinine as the questions from the reporter. Why do people try to create conflict where there is none? If anyone actually watches the interview they'd know there is NO conflict. Taylor three days of voluntary practice. Springs said he would be in the first of June after his personal workout program is complete. Stopit already.

Hey Jack, sounds like you just volunteered to be the next guest blogger. E-mail Cindy or Jasno, they'll be happy to get your stuff posted on a new thread.

If you're nice, maybe Cindy will let you pick the player name to use as the blog title.

So if Collins is holding a clip board. Bramlet might be buckling the chin strap.
With Palmer and Hollinback with their noses buried in 700.

Larry Bud, I don't understand your rationale since the media DID talk with Sean Taylor - at length.
Posted by: Lisa | May 16, 2007 01:18 PM

I am not a regular blogger. But I have watched this one leading up to the draft. For the most part I agree with Lisa. With this blog I stopped reading right here! Larry Bud, sorry my man, your spidey senses have done you an extreme misread in my estimation. I think your attempt to quip and be funny got in the way of a relevant issue. Everyone here needs to take several steps beyond the media and what goes on in the locker room. Guess what? You can't. Most here have not even played high school ball, much less college and certainly not pro. I promise you that Moss has his loyalties SQUARELY with Taylor and would be unrelenting in defending him. DA U! B4 DA MEDIA! We need a new blog, Larry Bud, its ok to TRY and be funny, just be relevant...

I was assuming C2rd was PD2rd? Wierd

Nope. The only craziness I exact is on SMACK. I like to be the defender of the blog against all that is Stinkin Cowpuke!!!

I think of that kid in high school who loved to annoy people to the point of violence. I think all of those kids became reporters.

Anyone who thinks that I'm going to come and coach for that idiot of an owner you have is seriously smoking crack.

> ....blah blah blah.....
> Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2007 03:06 PM
> HUH?!?!?!?!

Careful, seventh order master of alt.flame here. :)

Al Saunders was a coach who was able to coach a fairly consistent and stable group of players over several years. There were different players with different skills in Washington. He also appeared to be experimenting with some new features and gadgets as opposed to wrinkles. Hi I'm Al Saunders Assoc. Head Coach of the 'Skins. Hand picked by HOF coach Joe Gibbs. I am great. Welcome to Washington Al. We don't cotton to Hank Stram's Chinese fire drills here abouts.

I am down on my knees begging begging BEGGING!

Could we PLEASE for the love of all that is good, bad, ugly and evil in the world STOP talking about Sean Taylor and the EFFIN OTAS!

WHO FLINGING FLANGING CARES!!!!! IT ISN'T NEWS!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER! AND THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO SAY REMOTELY NEW, ORIGINAL, INTERESTING OR RELEVANT!!!

OH MY GAWD I'VE TURNED INTO BOOFER!

Good job, Larry Bud. After 3 seasons, you expect a pro to stand up and be accountable for his actions. In the NFL that means answering the media questions and not expecting your teammates to do it for you. It's part of the gig.

Good for Taylor for doing the obligatory media thing this week. If he goes back to being a recluse then, yes, it bears watching how his teammates will react.

Help me!

Now that I have that out of my system.

Thanks for the guest blog Larry Bud. You're enabling my coked up needs as a hamster. Plus despite my outburst I agree with what you said. The media needs to leave it alone.

Well, I knew before I got to reading that a post titled Mark Brunell would bring out the a$$clown in alot of bloggers. I don't see him as selfish, he knew that if he was benched he would not come back off it. So, who here in that situation would say that they are hurt and can't play. Also, if he did that everybody would be coming down on him saying that he is a baby because he can't play hurt, even though most everybody didn't want him to play. He played through his injury like most players do, it is on the coaches and trainers to determine that he is not capable of running the offense. He will probably end up being the number 2 QB and based on our roster that is probably the best choice, unless he still can't throw because of the injury, then Collins is the number 2. But which ever one is not the number 2 should be cut and one of the young guys should be number 3, and be groomed to be the back up for JC.

As far as the guest blog, I think it was decent and a different look at the situation. I go along with everybody else though, just seems like a non-issue.

And Cowher, I don't want him coaching this team. He seems overrated to me, and deffinately not a first ballet hall of famer.

Not a first ballet? Swan Lake... damn thats the only ballet I know the name of...

well, this is the home of the typo

1st!!!

Hi I'm Skippy and I have a metal plate in my head. I really really like Lemon Meringue Pie and watching Peterbilt trucks, which my friend Floyd has one of which lives in a Doublewide. Floyd got new curtains.

Here's my question. I read the Redskins cutted Zakk Hilton, who was a tighted end. Is it because his sister Purvis Hilton is going into the graybeer hotel? Because he should not be punished by Joe Gobbs because he cares about his sappling, which is a fancy word for brother or sister or both, especially in the parts of Tennessee.

Certainly when Purvis Hilton is out of the Slummer, her simpling could then be available to tighten up the ends of the Redskins Park.

Also, since I know so much about Meringue pie, can I write a guest bog about pie? How many Redskins enjoy eating the pie? Lemon Meringue is the best. But Dusenberry is good too. Gotta run, piicking up Radio Marti on my teeth again.

Fondly,

Skippy

1st!!!

Hi I'm Skippy and I have a metal plate in my head. I really really like Lemon Meringue Pie and watching Peterbilt trucks, which my friend Floyd has one of which lives in a Doublewide. Floyd got new curtains.

Here's my question. I read the Redskins cutted Zakk Hilton, who was a tighted end. Is it because his sister Purvis Hilton is going into the graybeer hotel? Because he should not be punished by Joe Gobbs because he cares about his sappling, which is a fancy word for brother or sister or both, especially in the parts of Tennessee.

Certainly when Purvis Hilton is out of the Slummer, her simpling could then be available to tighten up the ends of the Redskins Park.

Also, since I know so much about Meringue pie, can I write a guest bog about pie? How many Redskins enjoy eating the pie? Lemon Meringue is the best. But Dusenberry is good too. Gotta run, piicking up Radio Marti on my teeth again.

Fondly,

Skippy

I am not a regular blogger....

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 03:29 PM

I like to be the defender of the blog

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 03:37 PM

Uhh, no name? Much like a Super Hero, I appear when the blog is threatened. If it be by the evil forces of an Eagle fan, I will be there. If it be by the treacherous stinkin cowboy, I will be there. Look! Up in the Sky...

""Oh, please. Do you really think MB's "selfishness" has anything to do with the coaches' decisions to use him. We learned since last season that Jason Campbell didn't even practice with the first team, so he had ZERO experience until MB was taken out after a winning season was no longer possible. If anything, MB is ver UNselfish, a team player.""

I agree. He's a great team guy. He could have been like Shawn Springs and refused to rework his contract. What he did was best for the team and I applaud him for that. You never heard anything negative when he lost his starting job. And all this stuff about cutting Brunell is just crap. Cutting him would hurt the cap by about $1.1 million, whereas cutting Collins would save about $1.2 on the cap.
hating on Brunell shows nothing but pure stupidity.

sfskin, you lost me at flinging flanging.

Opinion poll: Now that the federales are involved in the bitey dog matter, any chance that Michael Vick is NOT going to be "a little distracted" this season?

Hint: This is a rhetorical question.

I wish the Falcons were on the schedule again. Instead, we get stupid Tampa Bay again, plus stupid Dallas, stupid Philly, and both stupid NY teams. Stupid.

sween- If the Zapruder film of Vick at the bitey dog thingy shows up, my guess is Goodell suspends him 4 games.

midniterc - AMEN!

DALLAS COWBOYS RULE, SKINNIES DROOL.

..................Shocker.

I think sfskin has a point - the OTA's don't really offer up enough action for us to mull over. Sean Taylor is present and accounted for, and despite what Csquared may believe, most people that post here seem to be pretty happy with the way things are going.

But I didn't play college ball, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about either, huh Psquared? Not sure where you were going with that one...love the blog, hate the bloggers?

I think we should focus on what we'd like to know. dcsween, Nate, Lisa, Larry Bud, 4-12, even Periculum, what info would you like Jason to track down when he gets back on the beat?

I'd like to know the terms of Sean Taylor's contract - why did people think it would work out to a 4 year deal when he signed it and what are the details of the incentive provisions?

Cowher isn't a first ballot hall of famer?

Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach, joining Pro Football Hall of Fame member Paul Brown. In Cowher's 15 seasons, the Steelers have captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles.
taken from Wikipedia....

If that's not an instant hall of fame resume I don't know what is. Now maybe the Danny's nature would make it so he wouldn't come to Washington, but to say he is overratted and not a hall of famer is just dumb.

Man. Typical GUTLESS Cowgirl. The people have this one. No need to swoop in and crush you like a jelly bean. Cause I'm BAD! Cut, Cool J!

Jack, top of my to-do list for Jasno when he's back is finding out what become of Barno's prize.

"Barno, I Did Not Mean to Scorn You" is my all-time favorite blog title.

Frankly, I spoke with Bill Cowher about my experience here, and Men, he's just not coming.

Sean Taylor is present and accounted for, and despite what Csquared may believe, most people that post here seem to be pretty happy with the way things are going.
Posted by: mugamack | May 16, 2007 04:42 PM

Mugamack, reading for comprehension? Thanks for agreeing with my point and then trying to slam me?! I post because I care a great deal for the Skins and am definitely an optimist. And this Psquared thing? Garbage. That is why I dont think, even remotely, that there is not harmony. Do your homework friend. No hater hear. But I will hate on haters....

Jack, after what we've seen with Monk I would be loathe to predict how the Hall of Fame selectors might treat anyone, even a guy with credentials like Cowher's. They refused to put in Parcells simply because they thought he might come back, and they refused to put in Madden for a long time after he became eligible. Among the active or recently active coaches, I can only think of Belichick as a HOF slam-dunk. (Probably forgetting someone.)

There are only 21 coaches in the HOF:

George Allen 1966-1977
Paul Brown 1946-1962
Guy Chamberlin # 1922-1927
Jimmy Conzelman # 1921-30, 1940-42, 1946-48
Weeb Ewbank 1954-1973
Ray Flaherty # 1936-1949
Joe Gibbs 1981-1992
Sid Gillman 1955-1969, 1971-1974
Bud Grant 1967-1983, 1985
George Halas 1920-29, 1933-42, 1946-67 Earl (Curly) Lambeau # 1919-1953
Tom Landry 1960-1988
Marv Levy 1978-1982, 1986-1997
Vince Lombardi 1959-1967, 1969
John Madden 1969-1978
Earle (Greasy) Neale 1941-1950
Chuck Noll 1969-1991
Steve Owen # 1930-1953
Don Shula 1963-1995
Hank Stram 1960-1974, 1976-1977
Bill Walsh 1979-1988

Just listened to ST comments today..and so..there you have it, he just felt it was not mandatory and wanted to take a few more days off. Not because of$$$, or anything else the media could create to get "The Story". I commend ST for giving an honest answer to the reporters questions. Maybe not the best answer but an honest one. If I could just touch on one other note. The increase media coverage I thought was nice at first, but after thinking about it..contineously hounding the other players about ST has to be disctracting at the least, and actually may cause friction between the players. The team is in fine shape. Let them do there dang job! Hail!!

Does anyone else think Tony's trip on The Sopranos this week has inspired various regulars here to mix peyote and posting?

mugamack, I think I mistakenly pointed my Barno comment at Jack instead of you. Whoops.

midniterc said on May 16, 2007 at 04:21 PM:
"He's a great team guy. He could have been like Shawn Springs and refused to rework his contract. What he did was best for the team and I applaud him for that."

Puhlease. Mark Brunell's reworking of his contract was not a selfless act. It was the act of a man who had no options. He had to either take a pay cut or take a hike. He didn't have the leverage Springs has. Football is a business. When the team has the upper hand it uses. It should be no different for players.

Speaking of London which Nate was several hours ago.

Non-fubol related - Prince is doing 17 shows in London in August. He promised that each night will be different, the band is learning/rehearsing 150 songs! The tix are like $50 so they can be affordable. Why oh why oh why London? San Francisco/San Jose/Los Angeles ANY city in the US would be great wouldn't it?

PDiddy you're the only one on here I think has the ability to make it there for this. I'm happy to go as your representative on an all expenses paid trip. Not sure what you get out of it. The satisfaction of doing a "charitable" act?

Nate, That's an impressive list, but I would argue that Cowher easily belongs there. Whenever you start talking about a guy and your saying one of only two or one of only six your saying they are elite. Also, if my math was right, he would be the 6th longest tenured coach on that list. Impressive in its on right, but in the win now or else climate of today's sports its amazing. If he hadn't have gotten his super bowl ring, then I could see where you saying he is a bubble guy but if Marv Levy, Tom Landry, and John Madden are in there's no question that Cowher should be there too. Now, he won't cause he will be coaching again before he is elegible, but still, I don't care what any of you guys say, I would love to have him as my coach. Everyone is just down on him now cause Big Ben can't ride a motorcycle.

Csquared, who spiked your Sunny D? Your like a rabid tasmanian devil over there. Are you really that fired up, or is it just the hemmy talking?

I think Cowher is HOF. With the exception of Bellichik and Jimmy Johnson what other coach in the last 15 years is better than Cowher?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/01/barno_i_did_not_mean_to_scorn.html

So who is Barno? What did Jasno do?

SMACK, I promise, when it comes to the Cowdungs, I am always fired up. I know, I know, being a cowboy fan is a religion. Well, when you jump on the bandwagon and stay while the Superbowls are coming in it is. The only hemmy in my world is the Cowboys. They are the BIG Hemmy on the A$$ of the NFL! Fired up enough for ya?

Thank you sfskin! At least there is some sanity in the room.

Csquared, that Psquared thing was just a typo - sorry.

I still am missing your point, I guess. I need to take another look at what you wrote:

Everyone here needs to take several steps beyond the media and what goes on in the locker room. Guess what? You can't. Most here have not even played high school ball, much less college and certainly not pro. I promise you that Moss has his loyalties SQUARELY with Taylor and would be unrelenting in defending him. DA U! B4 DA MEDIA! We need a new blog, Larry Bud, its ok to TRY and be funny, just be relevant...

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 03:29 PM
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Still not getting it... what do you mean? Everyone who posts here should do what? Play high school football? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Don't think Cowher would ever consider this franchise and its owner. Pittsburgh was in it for the long-haul with him. Through lean years and playoffs after Noll. Snyder doesn't have the patience to last more than 2 years. If the current coach didn't have HOF credentials leading this team to super bowls I doubt that he would even be here.

That means you are stuck with guys who are willing to come here to make a reputation to try for jobs elsewhere ala' Bidwell and the Cardinals.

BOTTOM LINE: When Gibbs leaves the franchise is screwed.

I did not say that Cowher should not get into the HOF, but deffinately not on his first year of eligiblity. Nate helped prove my point on this. Cowher has just one super bowl ring, sure the other stats are good, but he had all of those great (ok maybe not great but really good) teams and he could only win one championship. That does not say first ballot HOF to me, but I would say he deserves a spot eventually. And I am still against him becoming the next coach of the Skins.

"I don't see him as selfish, he knew that if he was benched he would not come back off it. "
Posted by: gethanr13 | May 16, 2007 03:56 PM

But isn't that the definition of selfishness?

Simple Mug,
We should feel much more comfortable with the fact that two guys who played at the U, in the same FRAT, and now on the same NFL team are bonded more closely than the media and Moss. In addition, Sellers is on the bus. No way he is going against ST. Etrod will tell ya, if Sellers knows whats good for em he wont!! Actually, that would be some sweet contact between those two guys! Anyway, dont get hung up on the not playing football thing. The point is these guys are on a team. For the most part, except maybe a TO, teammates got each others back! Media asks questions to provoke, irritate, and sensationalize what would be a REAL boring time of year.

I think we may have found the Skins' counterpart to Boofer...Csquared

I've probably been a Cowboys fan five times longer than you've been able to wipe yourself. My bandwagon has tailfins and historic plates. I have to assume you're only 8 or 9 years old, because those superbowls were over a decade ago. By nature, wouldn't any bandwagon fans have jumped off? Your stuff is tired, you got nothing.

And Marv Levy does? He never won a Championship. Eight division titles, playoffs the first 6 years, two Super Bowls, one ring, and 15 years in the current NFL. Your just wrong if you don't think he is in, Bellichik and Jimmy Johnson are the only other two coaches in his league from this era. (excluding Parcells and Gibbs)

Csquared, I agree with everything you just said. I just didn't understand why you called out "everyone here". Do you have a problem with the general tone here?

If anyone missed it, Sean Taylor has anothe 3 minute clip up at redskins.com - not quite as polished at Tuesday's comments, but genial.

Sort of reminded me of Bull Durham with all of the sports cliches he throws in there.

I don't need to hear another word from him until the season starts - I hope the press lets him focus on football.

George Allen and Marv Levy never won a SB and Levy went 4 times in a row! Yet both of them are HOF. How does Cowher not stack up? Considering the success he had in Pitt as the FA era took off and that he did it with at times less than stellar teams is impressive.

Michael Westbrook had Stephen Davis' back...on the turf while he pummeled him.

By the way in addition to millions of other reasons why the Skins rock is that we have 3 HCs in the HOF (I know I shouldn't count Lombardi but I am damn it!)

Brunell is a stand up guy. A great person. He has taken the demotion with a great deal of grace. He has had a great NFL career.

But he steadfastly maintained, for two separate seasons, that he was fine and healthy when it was obvious that he was not. I guess you can argue that he was the teams best option to win, even hurt, but I think that would be stretching the truth. Gibbs, in two different seasons, waited WAY too long to replace him. His first season here he was AWFUL (and probably hurt). Last season he was very limited in what he could do for the team. And after the fact we find out that he NEEDED shoulder surgery.

And let's not forget about that. He totally had shoulder surgery in the offseason. How is that shoulder going to hold up now?

Here are a few to add to the list of better than, or at least as good as Cowher.

Tony Dungy
Mike Holmgren (is that spelled right?)
Mike Shannahan (ok at least I can spell Dungy)

And there are coaches that haven't been coaching long enough to put on the list but may fall in this category eventually. (example - Lovie Smith)

Oh, I love it! Bring it you no talent Cowboy lovin HACK! First of all, you are from S. Fla. Second, you became a Cowboy fan in 77. Oh, irony of irony. The Boyzzzz, won the SB at the end of the 77 season in 78. Yes, I watched and remember. Beat the mighty Craig Morton and Orange PLUSH! My GOD! Are you such a bandwagon, that even the bandwagon losers that call themselves Cowpuke fans wont take ya. So you hover around this site to work on your insecurities? Yeah the recent wins were over a decade ago. But, when your folks recognized what a loser you were as a child in the 70s they threw a Dallas t-shirt on ya and said hey WINNER. Oh, and I was wearin a Chris Hanburger jersey LOOONG before you knew what football was. You are out of your league Cowgirl...

Nate, took your advice and sent a guest blog in, just got a response from J-La saying they're going to put it up. So looks like in the near future you will all be able to tell me how wrong I am....should be fun.

Geth - agree with all your selections but I'm not sure I'd put any of them ahead of Cowher. Actually I'd also add Jeff Fisher whom I've always been a big fan of especially once they went to Tenessee. Fisher probably won't make HOF unless he can get an SB ring.

Nate's about to step to Csquared...got a feeling....it's coming....hang on.....

So wait a minute, 78 comes before 77? I had to stop reading right there. You really are even more feeble than I thought.

So wait a minute, 78 comes before 77? I had to stop reading right there. You really are even more feeble than I thought.

Are you guys asking me why he shouldn't be in, because I thought that I was clear that I think he should be in, but he is clearly not a first ballot guy.

Not Miami - yes yes yes on Brunell! If a rookie was pulling the crap play Brunell did last season he'd have been benched in the locker room.

I understand wanting to give yourself every chance to win but dink dunk lost us many games except Houston AND the Jags game was Moss' victory AND the Dallas win was the blocked FG.

I guess I keep coming back to the thought of what a train wreck this team has been for so many years. Why not pull the trigger on the rookie earlier? Whaddya got to lose that you haven't already lost?

Mugamack,
We are both Skins devout? Not calling "everyone out" but few here understand the inside of one of these operations. I dont, and I am taking the optimistic side. OK??? Sheesh.

Nate, you're on fire today:

"The sorts of things that were hard to believe in when Brunell was QB and the 700-page playbook, still warm from Kinko's, was being distributed to all the lads for the first time"

and

"Collins can stick around on a volunteer basis to wash Saunders' car and mentor the new third-stringer."

you made my day man

Geth - I know you think he should be in but don't agree on the first ballot. If we measure these guys by their eras I don't see why he isn't a first balloter. On the other hand maybe none of these guys are first balloters?

I should have stated that I DO think Cowher probably deserves HOF for his career so far. he did it very well for a long time, and capped that run with a SB victory. The point I was trying to make up above is that HOF election predictions are tough.

Exhibit A remains #81.

The Boyzzzz, won the SB at the end of the 77 season in 78.
Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 05:43 PM

HMMM, man I am glad you are the enemy. Won the Superbowl in 78, at the END of the 77 season. You had to stop reading because you are a SIMP and clearly bested. Go to a Cowgirl site with your weakness.

Jack, sorry for the harshness up above, dude, but something about the way you knocked Larry Bud rubbed me the wrong way. But there is, ah, an antagonistic vibe up here today. It hasn't cut loose yet, but something negative has been welling up for a few hours.

I do look forward to reading your guest blog and providing my usual inane feedback.

bravo csquared

I vote keep Brunell at #2 and dump Collins and groom a rook/2nd year at #3. Otherwise the temptation is to pick a QB next year and while I know we have all(is it really all?) our picks why go for ANOTHER QB?

Presumably Brunell is buh bye after next season so don't we need a #3 this year whose ready to be promoted next year?

I think the only first balloters from this era are the previously mentioned Jimmy Johnson (it hurts a little to admit this) and Bellichik. Shannahan would be pretty close because of the back to back rings, but I just really don't like that guy, for no good reason, so I am leaving him out.

The fact that you live in fear of encountering opposing fans on this blog reveals your ineptitude. Maybe you'd prefer the Skins never have to play anybody either. You could form your own little league and be champions every year.

I became a Cowboys fan after the loss to the Steelers. Amazing you've come this far with a squirrel's brain in your head.

SMACK, you know this dude does not speak for the vast majority of us up here.

That C stands for clown.

Nate's about to step to Csquared...got a feeling....it's coming....hang on.....

Posted by: | May 16, 2007 05:47 PM

....and there it is.

Aarrrgh!!!!

4th, you're killing me! I appreciate the scouting report you provided on the previous Sean Taylor thread, but please please please you gotta break that up. One long, laborious post could easily have been eight nice, little short ones.

We're striving for 100K so keep your head in the game. And that goes for everyone up here...

For all the regular posters here, I want to be clear on something for ya. I am firmly behind the Skins and dont want to knock heads with fellow Skins faithful. I am an optimist and will rarely post against a negative Skins fan. I may not agree and I will hope the teams play speaks for itself. I am of the belief that if your CONSTANTLY negative about your team, then you probably are a fair weather person. You know like Randy Quaid in Major League II. My antagonism is only against NON Skins fans. And, I love going after Cowboy fans. It is in jest and fun. So, SMACK, dont take it personal. Just kneel before me and realize you cheer for an inferior team that has to be destroyed at all costs!!! Wow Nate, name callin and takin the side of a regular over a Skin fan... Confusing. HAAAIIILL!!!!

Ahh, thank you, Nate. And the anon prediction above of your impending smack-down (SMACK-up??) wasn't yo.

Thanks again, Nate. I don't mind a worthy adversary. This guy isn't one, but I still don't mind.

It's that he has my life story memorized that's really kinda creepy.

I think he's chosen option #2, phone a friend, to try to find something good to say.

By the way, Nate, your better than that baby. Lets be creative, HUH?

Nate, I didn't take anything personal, I don't usually, this is what being crazed sports fans is all about, we'd be getting loud if we were arguing at a bar so the way I see it is you can get a little loud here too. Long as we are just arguing about ideas who cares? Plus, I always come across as to critical, I guess I'm more Simon than Paula.

sfskin, I agree with you on the backup QB situation. But as several have mentioned, if Brunell's still gimpy he should go. (And with him, 99% our QB bench experience. Oh well.)

getanhr13, I do think Jimmy J will get in, sad as that is. Shanahan has been really good, but there is a perception that without Elway he wouldn't have those Lombardis. The flip side of that is that Elway didn't have any Lombardis without Shanahan.

I don't think Holmgren gets in.

Tony Dungy is very interesting. Raised Tampa from the dead and then took the Colts to the championship. Probably gets in.

I love Jeff Fisher but don't see him being considered without a SB win.

Gotta keep either Collins or Brunell because it takes two years to bring a new QB along, maybe three when dealing with 700 pages.

I guess you can't be too patient with the works in progress either.

My theory on SMACK is he actually works for the Cowgirls and is gathering intelligence. Okay, that's a stretch for RI.

I'm sure the Boyzz blog is too weak to bother with; so let him lurk.

Alright Csquared, sorry if I got too personal.

No problem Smack. But, there is a new sheriff in town. Dont get nervous cause you know I am more than a worthy adversary... You are still a Cowpuke, DONT PUT YOUR GUARD DOWN!!!!

Uh oh, somebody hide the donuts.

I am not a regular blogger....

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 03:29 PM

I like to be the defender of the blog

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 03:37 PM

LMGO!

Here's the thing, Csquared: you calling Nate out on creativity -- or presuming to know how 'good' he is and how much better he should be -- will not play with all the regulars. As Dorf would say, "We do not abide."

SMACK does deserve a creative adversary. If I'm the jury (and I am), you gotta come correct, son, and so far, not so good.

I just think you may be a regular under a different name calling people out to elicit responses and goad us on towards 100K.

If so, well done. Consider me a contributer.

I think we all need to lay off Csquared for a while. He's obviously a big fan and gets a little carried away.

Csquared, I like reading your posts, just have trouble following you sometimes (you aren't the only one). Keep the passion flowing.

My guard is Lenny Buffet Davis. We put him down all the time.

Stevie, maybe you missed my earlier post just b4 the one joking with Nate. And, I am my own jury on how I come at SMACK. But, you keep takin up for a Cowboy fan. Nice... SMACK you have done some sweeet brainwashin here...

SMACK, DAVIS??? Wasnt he a wash in ZONA. Might be good, if he is healthy!!

Csquared, definitely digging the digs at SMACK -- as I said, he deserves a worthy opponent. But I do NOT want your lame pseudo-comprehensible ranting to be what represents the Skins in this battle against pure, pure evil.

As Jay Mohr doing the great Chris Walken would say, "It's the wrong tone."

Here's what the Boys are gonna do to the Skins twice this year. Three times, if you give us the chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceNf-11-ddI

I wont even watch it! But you can LOOK at this Smack!! 3 out of the last 4!!!!! Not lame Stevie, get a thesaurus, you'll get on board...

SMACK,
Pretty funny, I wasn't getting until the end.

The rivalry is really more important than the season (to me anyway). The Skins will serve it up this season, wait and see.

Csquared, if Davis can just be taught to fall forward more often than backward, I'll be okay with giving him 50 mil. The only "brainwashing" I've done up here is be realistic. If we were the best team in the world, I'd be here telling you all that twenty times a day. But as I am frequently reminded, we've been crap for years now. Still a fan though.

Don't worry C, I'm with you: I ain't watching the dirty, dirty Cowboy link.

But "not lame . . thesaurus"? C'mon, don't make it so easy. It's not that your words are too confusing. You're proving my point for me.

Dmnit, I watched it. Couldn't help myself -- thought it might show ST killing TO. There's always a chance of a mix-up with these links, you know?

Steve, focus on something else. Its not confusing it just may be a little advanced. The thesaurus was a reference to a previous post and your comment. Listen, lets put our energy on the Skins. You WILL NOT stop me from coming at haters. Whether you get it or not...

Hey C, why stop at 4? I would love to have our rivalry be great again, but it is not more important than the season. I'd rather get swept by the Skins and win the Super Bowl every year.

It is these misplaced priorities that allow your team go get up for Cowboys games, and then lose to 0-5 teams. Your rival is who you're playing that week, folks.

Smack that dude is HUGE, nickname is BIGG! He has been injured a lot though!

SMACK, loved the link! Was it me, or did that baby look like Tony Romo? You'll see what I mean November 18th.

I agree with Stumped, I'd take two wins over the Cowboys, 6-10 finish over two losses the Cowboys, 10-6 finish.

I know this shows no logic and some degree of obsession and sickness. But the joy I received from the two Redskins/Cowboys games last year was exponentially greater than they joy I felt after the last Redskins playoff victory.

SMACK, DAVIS??? Wasnt he a wash in ZONA. Might be good, if he is healthy!!

Posted by: Csquared | May 16, 2007 06:28 PM

Uh, Newbie- Speaking of advanced, I think you missed the humor in SMACKs "Buffet Davis" post. Well played, SMACK

AHHHH DAMN Smack. See that is the bandwagon coming out. I have been around too many die hard since birth type skins fans and I dont know a one that doesnt say 2-14 as long as the two is the BOYZZZZ. When the Skins started 11-0 and won the Superbowl, I know a million people who blow up over the fact that they lost to Dallas (1-16) that year. A rivalry just like in college IS A RIVALRY!!!! Just ask John Cooper. Stevie, let me know if you need further explanation on the Cooper comment.

Uh, yeah, C, got the reference.

I'm testing out the new handle from you, C. Come at the haters, dude, please, just come better. We're trying to tide us over in the dead 6:15-7:15 hour and you're not helping. sfskin, Nate, it's way too early for you guys to bow out.

To whoever the IDIOT is posting under my name...lay off!! I may be small but I'm feisty!

Latest from Sports Nite: Santana said that he was really excited last season when he learned Al Saunders was bringing his system to the Skins - but they had no idea how long it would take to learn it. Saunders echoed his sentiments - said the first year is about learning the plays and from then on perfecting them. Portis said that last year whenever they broke out of the huddle they were pretty confused about where to line up, etc. but thus far during the OTAs everyone has it down pat.

Saunders also stated that how far the team goes (or at least the offense) will depend on Campbell. He said they have a lot of great players for Campbell to work with and he just needs to manage the game. But Campbell getting 7 starts last season was a positive.

Too funny, Muga. You know you've hit the big time when nobody calls you Megamuck anymore.

But as a fan, you just can't really believe that 6-10/10-6 stuff. 10-6 gives you a shot at making history. You'd trade that for two weeks of PPTPs? That's absurd.

I'd be out of your hair if all the traffic lights weren't out in Silver Spring. You should see the shabingus out there.

4-12 I am going to keep working on you til you stop takin up for a Cowboy. I didnt miss the humor, and you probably missed my post b4 his about the GUARD... Am I takin crazy pills. By the way guys, this is a WAAAYY better argument over politics and hate and MUSLIM stuff with Thomas Jefferson, or WHATEVER!!!? Carte Blanche on BOYZZZZ HATIN!!!!

I'll take that bait: who is John Cooper?

and if has anything to do with Ohio State (seem to remember a Cooper coaching there), you sure you're a Skins fan first?

1-16? Who did we lose to in the Wildcard game? That win meant F all. We were 1-15, people.

On a side not, I believe GW basketball was 1-28 that year. It was a bad year to be me.

Damn Stevie, you still tryin? I will come at the haters the way I see fit. Dont judge so much, and hate cause your not comin up with anything... Get on the bandwagon. Focus on the EVIL EMPIRE.

I will always recognize an error. Sorry about the 1-16... 1-15, and that win meant F ALL? So your supporting the argument that only one win, still against a hated rival. If they beat the Browns that year I promise not nearly as many BOYZZZZ fans would remember who they even beat...

I will always recognize an error. Sorry about the 1-16... 1-15, and that win meant F ALL? So your supporting the argument that only one win, still against a hated rival. If they beat the Browns that year I promise not nearly as many BOYZZZZ fans would remember who they even beat...

Damn, C, like I said, brother, I'm just 'aimin' at 100K. This is good stuff.

Let me get this straight, C. You beat us twice, every year, but we win the Super Bowl, every year. You'd take that deal? In that case, I have a personal punt protector and some land in the Everglades for you.

Of course I remember the win was over the Skins, and believe me I enjoyed it. But it would be awfully stupid and petty of me to rub it in your faces. Yeah, that win propelled us to what, 3-13 the following season.

You have to beat more than one team. The sooner you embrace this, the sooner you'll have a chance at doing it.

There's a certain BOOFER-esque quality to Csquared's pecking . . .

Your, my, and SMACK's posts are just gonna signal what portion of this thread can be skipped when the regulars get back from their commute and dinner.

Hoo Huum. Getting bored. Stevie, I am a sports fan. I LOVE College football and rivalries. Cooper went undefeated every year but lost to Michigan in the end, fired. Same for Shula in Bama not beatin Auburn.
Smack- Be a sports fan and stop being a simp. Of course your analogy is ridiculous. The players are pros and want to win every game. As a fan, there is a RIVALRY between the Skins/Boyzzz. If the SKINS SUCK, I just want them to BEAT the BOYZ at MINIMUM. If we are 8-8 and dont make the playoffs, I want two of the wins to be against Dallas, and so on. It is one of the biggest rivalries in sports... Your point about the team that week is a rivalry has no credence. That team is the opponent. Ok, Sports 101 is out...

good point smack. I'd take the superbowl over beating Dallas twice.

Darn, I thought this might get interesting. But I guess I prefer to go sit in traffic. I'll check in when I get home at 10.

and to weigh in:

SMACK, if my only two options were going 14-2 and winning the Super Bowl every year, but eternal damnation in the form of 2 perennial losses to the Boys, OR 2-14 but always beating Dallas, then yes, actually I would take the Devil's second offer. The little trophy case in Ashburn is pretty full with just three, anyway.

G'night, Boofer. Mommy still tucks you in at 9, right?

Dammit Mug! You guys gotta stop being drones! What he wants you to do is not hate the Cowboys!!! Do you think the fans getting up for a rivalry makes a difference in the rest of the games!!!???These guys are pros for Christ Sake! They are tryin to win every week!!One of the greatest wins in Skins history, NFC champ against the Boyzzz Daryl Grant on the cover of SI. Its not that we dont want the SB EVERY YEAR, but man if you are a true SKINS fan, every win against the BOYZZZ is just too sweet.

So, how many wins a year has moving out of RFK cost the Skins? I'm talking due to the drop-off of fan impact on home games . . .

Stevie, the great thing about an analogy is its just that. New one for ya: Skins finish every year 8-8, lose both to the boyzzz and dont go to the playoffs every YEAR. You takin 6-10 and just lovin it????!

Actual Skins news:

Adam Schefter on the NFL Network just reported that everyone at Redskins Park is really impressed with Jason Campbell and that he is definitely the most improved player.

Sorry, not following, C. Where are the two options in your game of "Would You Rather"? Again, you gotta give me a lot to accept two losses to the Cowboys each and every year . . .

Sorry Lisa, as much as I love ya, that ain't news. That's a White House press release . . .

"Everyone in the WH is REALLY impressed with Alberto Gonzales and think that he will definitely be the most improved AG."

Sorry L, little of the Csquared heat coming off me. Don't mean to put you down.

UGH!!!! My man, you said you would take the two losses for a SB win every year. Now, as long as we are in fantasyland, I am sayin if the Skins finished every year at 8-8 and lost to the Boyzz and never made the playoffs, Would you take 6-10 as long as the 6 included two against Dallas. Its real simple buddy, you just float along with SMACKs analogy to give you the Superbowl with TWO losses against Dallas. My analogy EQUALLY unrealistic is if SKINS never make playoffs do you care if we are 6-10 or 8-8 as long as the Skins beat the boyzz twice!!!! Got it????

Maybe it is BOOFER... there are a few more words in caps in each post....

C-BOOF, you need to breathe deeply and count to 10 before each post. I appreciate the intensity, but look at your latest:

"Dammit Mug! You guys gotta stop being drones! What he wants you to do is not hate the Cowboys!!!"

Do you really think that's SMACK's intent? He enjoys interacting with us BECAUSE we hate the Cowboys! And changing one's opinion upon reflection implies individual thought, not subjugation.

"Do you think the fans getting up for a rivalry makes a difference in the rest of the games!!!???"

Not sure if we're dealing with a non-sequitur here, a contradiction or both... can you rephrase that, maybe put it in context? This is the type of comment where a proof-reading might be an asset.

"These guys are pros for Christ Sake! They are tryin to win every week!!One of the greatest wins in Skins history, NFC champ against the Boyzzz Daryl Grant on the cover of SI. Its not that we dont want the SB EVERY YEAR, but man if you are a true SKINS fan, every win against the BOYZZZ is just too sweet."

I don't think the measure of a Skins fan is whether they prefer a win over the Cowboys over a Superbowl win. I respect your opinion, I just disagree.

Is "Boyzzz" an insult? Does it mean "sleepy cowboy" or "cowboy makes me sleepy"?

Stevie, it is actually news....and at least it is something involving the Skins instead of SMACK and Csquared's jabs at each other.

Curious: what's up with the 'squared" thing? There was PSquared.....KSquared....and now CSquared...what gives with the popularity of the word "squared"?

naw, dude, not me: I think that was Muga who said he'd accept the Cowpoke losses.

C'mon: before you start throwing elbows, keep up yourself, chump.

Just thought I'd put this out there guys...

1) What one thing about the Skins gives you hope for this season?
2) What really makes you nervous going into this season?

I do hear you on that front, Lisa, and I'm glad you're back up, contributing positively. I think the squared thing started in my 9th grade class back in 1988-89. Seriously. Alliteration is just catchy, I guess. And now that we've got LaRon Landry, it's also au courant.

Mug, I got your point. I will go real slow for ya from now on.... Its unfortunate, I really prefer talking about the latest positives about the Skins. Like Lisa referred to. However, I know I am new. But, you guys are really defending the position of a Cowboy fan and justifying it. I guess I just dont blog a lot. If we were in a Sports Bar on Sunday would this be happening? Mug, your taking my stuff apart and judging, RIDICULOUS. To be frank, you might be a little sesitive. Ever since I said something about understanding the psyche of a team, its players, and their relationships and made reference to people not playin ball. I admit I got sucked in to this back and forth. I would prefer to focus on Redskin Positive and will not relent on Cowboyzzzzzzzzzzzz negative. Get off your high horse MUG I didnt want to OOOOffend by contiually using Cowpukes etc... This is a public forum you folks have gotten waaaay too comfortable with each other...

Not to whip that horse-hide, sic, but L-squared (sorry Lisa) is my biggest hope. I'm kinda with the Guv and AMTTS's original argument for drafting the kid (and it goes along with my inane rantings about how many losses I'd accept so long as we beat the cowboys twice): so long as he and Taylor are killing a couple people each week, at the end of the contest the Skins get a thumbs up from me.

After the d-line (which we all seem to agree on), my next biggest reason to be nervous is Soupy. I just don't see year number 2 being any kind of a breakout for him. I don't think it's traditionally when it happens -- though I could be wrong. And Joey T's kiss-of-death doesn't inspire confidence . . .

Not being in the area, or even in front of a television, I really apprecaite the run-downs of Skins television news, even if it's not earth-shattering.

So please, keep it up people.

1) Gives hope? Joe Gibbs is Head Coach
2) Makes nervous? Joe Gibbs is Head Coach

touche, Conflicted

(that just looks dirty)

Csquared, happy to hear you're old enough to get into a sports bar.

Have no doubt, I'd be riding you a lot harder if you were in my face and spouting off so often and with so little thought. I know you're trying your best here, I'm just trying to set you on the right path - your points will be much stronger if we can understand them.

You're actually improving - instead of attacking "everyone here", you're calling out people specifically. Keep it up.

Csquared - what would you do with Sean Taylor? The man has shown up, said all the right things, and has 4 years left on his deal. The team is essentially capped out. What would you do?

Csquared? Bark twice if you're in Milwaukee.

mugamack, that is the main reason I share the news that I hear/see - for those of you who are not in the area. Those who live here probably see/hear the same thing I do.

stevie-

I think you are wrong about Soup. First, the name thing, until he refers to himself as Soupy, I'm showing the man respect and referring to him as Soup. As I've said before, Joey Harrington will not be a decent quarterback until he starts referring to himself as Joe. Why saddle the linchpin of our offense with a kid's name?

On to the merits - it's Soup's 3rd year, not his second. Maybe not his 3rd year starting, but his 3rd year learning from Gibbs and Co.

We have heard nothing but good things and the right things about the man. Until Soup fails you, I hope you'll have a little faith, even optimism.

The man is making his receivers and his coaches happy. All evidence points to the team being run-first, which should help Soup. Why are you worried?

Mug, Are you done with the personal attacks? I am. I am too old for that SH@T. I am not trying to make it personal. I made a comment SUPPORTING Lisas point about 5hrs ago. YOU JUMPED on one aspect and twisted it into me hating the blog. Not my intention, I got a little fired up and had fun with it. It is extremely arrogant to question others comments like yours always make sense!!!? Its a friggin blog, get over yourself... Ok, lets all get along. On to your question. Read all of my comments, even if ST was not there I would still support him. We are "capped" today. How we manage that will allow for us to negotiate an extension at the END of NEXT season, not this coming season, barring injury and consistent play. By the way, I will still hate on the Cowgirls every chance I get... HEE HEE...

Not that you're asking me, but I'm saying a good-faith renegotiation of the deal, Mug. I just love the way the kid plays, and mistakes from last year can certainly be spread all around the D. You shouldn't hold Sean responsible, nor do I think the FO is holding him responsible. Everyone seems to agree that his was a crummy rookie deal, and while not saying anything HAS to get done, do approach Next Question (his agent, right?) and make the attempt.

Stevie, as for you YOUNG man.... I promise you that all of Landrys gear at LSU was labeled L2. I cannot speak to what they do in the pros. I am from Falls Church, Va and live in Atlanta. Got an autographed pic of Chris Hanburger sackin Staubach. His son worked for me...

Lisa,

Thanks for your efforts to keep it real. I always appreciate your relating the Redskins stuff you see hear and read -- the interviews, etc. I have no idea how you have time to follow it all and hold down a regular job.

Yer opening Pandoras box Stevie. Sean said publicly "I have a seven year deal, I still have 4 to go" He said that to the media. Next question knows this season is the bargaining chip. With all of Seans off the field problems and last year, his fault or not, he does not have a lot of leverage. Other than our unwavering love!!

Point taken about it being Soup(y is optional)'s third year, Mug. And don't get me wrong, I love the way he played last year, I just am in no position to know for certain how much they simplified the playbook. Also, I WANT him to do well as much as the next guy -- I'm just nervous. But then, I'm a nervous person by nature.

C, chill man, you dish it, you gotta take it. "SH@T" in all caps is a pretty bold statement. I for one was starting to worry that your Mom (or perhaps Nurse Ratched) rang the dinner bell for ya.

Welcome back, slo