1st!!!

numero uno, ein, meg, iki, one. you pick the language.

tres

boy this new post just killed the conversation need a new rumor lol

Jasno,

Thanks for this and for the two earlier posts today. The first of the three was great -- full of news and analysis and insider insights. I know you're stretched thin, and I really appreciate your volunteer work on behalf of those of us who can't even spell your name.

Jasno,
Thanks for the posts. Great info. What are these guys thinking? Why so stubborn? Is Bugel losing his touch as far as evaluating talent? When Samuels comes back maybe Jansen should move to guard. In the meantime get some protection on the left side!

At least skins didn't bite on Warren. This time they stripped the Raiders of one of their mid-round draft choices. You think if this guy could play they'd send him to one of their biggest rivals?

Back from a blog and work vacation. Man Wednesday was a bad day for the blog.

5 TCCL's to the Defense for picking up the slack Sat night.

5 TCCL's for Jasno Campbell being 23/24 and limber!!

I had to run to a local dive Sat night at Bethany Beach DE to catch the game.

Met a guy there who we will call Chief. He was a mid-50's diehard skins fan. Told me some awesome stories, and said he reads the blog but never posts.

The best story was the one that I am jealous of, because his team meaned that much to him... In 87, when the strike was on, he went down to the stadium to stand in line with his players and walk the pi cket line... he supported his team and wanted to stand in unity with them.

That is dedication we all wish we had to our team. But the kicker was that he went down there with his 3 week/month (sorry had a couple of Jack and Cokes... i know it was one or the other)daughter... and to this day he has a picture of Dave Butz holding his little cheerleader during the work-stoppage.

Thats what this team means to the older generation, and what some of us younger folks may overlook... may our children have the same experience..

Great story Zebra!

Awesome story Zebra.
I hope he didn't get caught up in the Darryl Grant firestorm...I think he was pounding on the bus full of scabs as they drove by. That was good stuff.

From PFW via ESPN -

- The Redskins have been quietly happy with their defensive line, a trouble spot in 2006, to this point. DT Joe Salave'a looks like his old self after a down season, DE Phillip Daniels appears strong enough to handle moving inside on passing downs, and DT Kedric Golston has been good in camp drills.

- With Warrick Holdman's season appearing to be finished due to the spinal concussion he suffered early in camp, it looks like a heads-up competition for the Broncos' WLB job between D.D. Lewis and Nate Webster.

- We're hearing the chances of Priest Holmes landing on the physically-unable-to-perform list to start the season are 60-70 percent. As of this writing, Holmes, who hasn't played since 2005 while recovering from head and neck trauma, had yet to participate in any contact drills and merely was working on his conditioning. Plus, backups Michael Bennett and Kolby Smith were having good camps and will provide depth behind Larry Johnson once he signs.

- We hear the Buccaneers are down on rookie DE Gaines Adams' technique. Defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin has been spotted spending one-on-one time with Adams after practice to rectify the problem. But Adams' struggles make the release of perennial Pro Bowl DE Simeon Rice even more perplexing.

- Sources close to the Falcons tell us Chris Redman, who hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2003, had taken a noticeable lead over D.J. Shockley, a seventh-round pick in '06, for the No. 2 QB job before Shockley suffered a potentially season-ending knee injury in the Falcons' second preseason game. If Shockley is lost for the season, look for the Falcons to reopen trade talks with the Eagles regarding Kelly Holcomb.

- Keep a close eye on Niners fifth-year WR Taylor Jacobs, who has been on the field a lot in three-WR sets and is a real favorite of WR coach Jerry Sullivan. We're told Jacobs had an outstanding training camp. The former Redskins second-round pick always has possessed great athleticism and could end up being a very intriguing late bloomer.

- It would not be a shock, we hear, if the Seahawks decide to cut the cord with injury-prone seventh-year OL Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack. Rumblings from team sources suggest the team might finally be losing patience with a player who just hasn't been able to stay on the field.

Thanks for the update, Jasno-- I sure hope that we can pick up a draft pick for Brunnell-- that's how the best teams build!

thx 4 tha update Jasno.

I feel so relieved that we won't be getting rid of Brunell.... :-|

nite all!

Weekly League Leaders Passing Yards

1 G. Frerotte, STL, 187
2 P. Ramsey, DEN, 169

Talk about a return with a bang Zebra!!! Great story!!!

Dave Butz rulz!

Randy White Drulz!

One reason I love this blog is that all you news hounds go grab the dirt! That way I can just come here, refresh obsessively and be good! You dudes are my personal aggregators!!

Great tidbits Kosty

Love the Ferotte/Ramsey 1-2....classic

I remember going down to the mall for a Redskins rally the year before they went to the superbowl for the first time under Gibbs. Ol' Bostic, quite the public speaker, basically promised us revenge and then some on Dallas (sorry SMACK) and a superbowl if he had anything to do with it. 500,000 folks down there in the middle of a work day. In the MUD. Never seen anything like it since.

Of course the Redskins aren't shopping Brunell.

I still think the Brunell deal will happen. If Atlanta loses one more QB even to a minor injury I think the phone lines will light up again. IN the end it will have to be Atlanta's idea.

Frerotte and Ramsey ... sheesh next week watch it'll be Bramlet.

NEW RUMOR: They try Jansen at guard and move Wade to right tackle.

cowgirl or not, "Manster" was the SJK.

I'm not sold on that theory just yet!

I don't follow this blog closely, but why is JLC taking shots at the competition? It's shoddy, Jason, and betrays a certain mean-spiritidness I didn't think you had. My opinion of you and your reporting has slipped a notch. It's just not right to adopt such a nasty tone.

I, too, am a journalist, and have been in the game longer than you have, my man. Internet or not, you just don't do things like that. It's unprofessional and demeans *you*, rather than the reporter you slimed. Just do the best job you can do (and you do a great job by and large), and let the other guy do his.

I don't know if there's a personal grudge here or not, but if there is, that still doesn't justify your childish name-calling. Grow up a little.

Mike Nolan (former Skins D coord) RE: On Taylor Jacobs as number three guy:

"He's close in there. No other two are, so three's good. The thing that hurt Taylor the other day was he was up all night because his wife had a baby. We were hoping to do a little bit more with him. We gave him five or six plays and then I just took him out. He does have a very good chance. He's been very consistent. Some guys have a couple of good days and then they slack off but he's been very consistent. He's well rounded and a vertical threat. Some guys are one or the other and some guys are both. I think he has the ability to be both. He's got a lot of speed and he runs those routes very well. He has good hands. He's coming out of his shell a little bit and he's playing with more confidence. Last year he wasn't the most confident guy out there. That may have been because of his experience at Washington or his personal experience. I don't know what it was from, but this year he's had a good training camp, and off-season as well."

They also have Derek Smith at MLB been there since leaving the Skins. Zak Keasey at FB instead of LB.

Former Skin special teams star Greg Manusky SF 49'ers defensive coordinator.

As some of you know, I'm a grad student in folklore at Indiana University. Well, I got a gig teaching Public Speaking to incoming freshmen this year and I'm currently writing up my syllabus. You RI-faithful will be pleased to read my cell phone policy:

"Nothing is more annoying (except for maybe Dallas Cowboys fans) than having a cell phone go off during a speech or while I'm talking."

Hahaha!

Nice work TDawg!

Thanks, kost! Thought you might appreciate that one!

Too bad I can't (legally) give extra credit to Skins fans.

So whose manning the night shift on the RI board? Lurkers and all, announce yourselves!

16strdteenth!

1th!

Present

Hypothetical:

The Falcons offer a 7th round pick and an O-Lineman for Brunnell and Fabini.

Discuss.

Awesome, TDawg!

I haven't run into cell phone problems yet from my students, but if I do I'm using your verbiage in my syllabi.

I would take the deal if the o-lineman was any good. Personally though i doubt we are going to get anyone from atlanta that is better than what we currently have on our o-line. and if that is the case i'd much rather a higher pick say a 5th rounder.
Why did you throw fabini into the trade?

Because Fabini is a weinie. Veteran or not, the guy has not had a great camp and his blocking has been weak at best. He got beaten by some German dude from NFL Europa, who plowed down our QB. I think that on paper, Fabini looks good, and it might help to coax the Falcons into parting with a guard (you can't get worse at guard).

I'm not sure TDawg, I see the Falcons playing this weekend with Harrington, Redman, and Bramlet as their 3 QB's, then waiting to see what happens on Aug. 30th, the deadline for the 1st round of cuts. There's a big chance someone of half decent quality will get cut, like Kelly Holcomb. So I don't think they'll be making any trades.

Yeah, kost, you're probably right. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Falcons pick up Kelly Holcomb.

I wish we had Bramlet at #3!

Who else needs a QB? The Vikings?

I've always wondered-- why the SJK does Brunnell scream "340!" every time before the ball is snapped?

I've always wondered-- why the SJK does Brunnell scream "340!" every time before the ball is snapped?

Posted by: TDawg | August 21, 2007 01:05 AM

Its his age... he has to yell it out before every snap just in case he might forget

I've always wondered-- why the SJK does Brunnell scream "340!" every time before the ball is snapped?

Posted by: TDawg | August 21, 2007 01:05 AM

He's reminding everyone how many inches from the line of scrimmage he can throw the ball.

He's reminding everyone how many inches from the line of scrimmage he can throw the ball.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 01:56 AM

LMGO

I've got one-- he's yelling how many days are left in Joe Gibbs career for keeping him on the roster.

...wait a minute, that doesn't make much sense.

He'd be perpetually 340 days from forced retirement.

Oh, it's late.

Nite!

Just a shout out to "Entourage": "Bladerunner meets Field of Dreams". Brilliant.

It may have been a cheap shot but I laughed my A$$ off about "Day Late Dave"! What a perfect description for perpetually late information from him.

Enough with quoting "longtime NFL executives."

How about you put a name on these faceless critics?

Where is everybody?

To writer who was new to the blog. I guess as a writer you don't blog. I never read one until I got here and felt the same way, until I realized blogs are supposed to be more 'loosey goosey' than the print edition.

According to JLaC, all of the redskins beat reporters are friendly and the discuss amongst themselves at times. So I am sure Elfin dosen't mind jab. If he had more peeps on his blog, he could jab back.......

There's a reason 32 teams, including the one he plays for now, didn't draft him.

So, did he say the same about the guy the Ravens picked up? You are my boy JLC but I think you are being a little to hard on the kid. Hell, there are vets OL giving up sacks on a lot of teams.

Not taking sides in this debate, just passing info:

Heard Sirius NFL channell more rumors about Atlanta/Brunell. Could just be recyccling or could be talks are on, who knows. They saidn if they were skins they would do it. Cap relief + pick + don't need to old QBs....

Again just passing what I heard....

F Chris Larry

Chris Larry killed the blog.

Chris Larry wears pink panties

It only makes sense to trade Brunell. Collins can't do any worse than Brunell, now. Plamer can still go on the practice squad, and then we have an extra roster spot for someone else...

4th,

"Loosey goosey" is no justification for the kind of cheap shot JLC took at Elfin. And yes, I blog, and yes, I understand the rules of blogs vs. print. I would *never* blast a collegue like that in public. It's classless, and "it's just a blog" doesn't wash. Period.

And don't play the "you don't blog here regularly" card. Frequency of contribution to this board does not equate to validity of opinion.

Just read today's article. Sorry for not checking back on the blog for duplication, but I have to ask: what options do we have for the O line?

Just read today's article. Sorry for not checking back on the blog for duplication, but I have to ask: what options do we have for the O line?

The 'you must not blog here regularly' "card" was not a card. I was just stating you might not be familiar with the kind of community we have become. It wasn't a card. It was prob a statement of fact from what I read in yor comments.

If JLaC is reading this, I'm sure he tell us/you it was just a little ribbing. I have been ribbed plenty.

This may be the WashPo, but it ain't the one I'm use to. But, I understand. You're a Journalist. Been a journalist longer than JLaC. Your either Robert Novak or Charles Krauthammer, right?

Or, I could be totally wrong and JLaC could be auditioning for ESP of N to be a 'character' on one of there many shows.......

To all the Bugel lovers out there, I guess we are going to rely on the guy who drafted the following busts to tell us that Heyer is the real deal:

05' 5th round Jim Molinaro, (out of football??
05' 6th Round Mark Wilson, (out of football)
06' 7th Round Kili Lefutu, (not projected to make the team).

Sorry Buges, you got no track record during Gibbs II.

Intersting, here are our needs going INTO the 2006 DARFT! This according to SI. Sadly, little has changed since late 2005, I guess we are slightly better but not younger at CB.

Team Needs:
OLB: The 'Skins need more pass rush and lost LaVar Arrington.
CB: They have solid starters but can always use depth.
OL: They lack backups at both guard and tackle.

Ok - I just have to ask. Why on earth would anyone WANT Brunell, anyway?!

Ok - I just have to ask. Why on earth would anyone WANT Brunell, anyway?!

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 09:09 AM

the same reason someone would name themselves Dik - because they're a moron

Did I miss something on RI? Darn, I guess I did.

Keithinator-- what did JLC say about Elfin that you don't think is professional? I cannot find it.

And don't play the "you don't blog here regularly" card. Frequency of contribution to this board does not equate to validity of opinion.

Posted by: Keithinator | August 21, 2007 08:10 AM

Yes it does.

He refers to Elfin as "Day Late Dave" in the last paragraph...

So does having a cool moniker like "4th Floor" rather than lame, derivative names like "Keithinator"

People still send faxes??

Thanks, Cload. I missed the reference to Elfin; didn't know what JLC was talking about there. Don't read the Times.

And so help me, if you don't take these posts tongue-in-cheek I will have to buy jm a ball-peen hammer to upgrade his current fisher-price model.

P Envy - Well, at least YOU named yourself aptly.

Hey there is nothing wrong with fisher-price. LMGO

A person who is said to possess greatness stands apart from others in some way, usually by the size or originality of their vision and their ability to manifest that vision. And yet those who recognize that greatness, whether they display it themselves or not, also have greatness within them; otherwise, they could not see it in another. In many ways, the achievements of one person always belong to many people for we accomplish nothing alone in this world. People who display greatness rely upon others who are able to see as they do, to listen, encourage, and support. Without those people who recognize greatness and move in to support it, even the greatest ideas, works of art, and political movements would remain unborn.

We are all moved by greatness when we see it, and although the experience is to some degree subjective, we know the feeling of it. When we encounter it, it is as if something in us stirs, awakens, and comes forth to meet what was inside us all along. When we respond to someone else's greatness, we feed our own. We may feel called to dedicate ourselves to their vision, or we may be inspired to follow a path we forge ourselves. Either way, we cannot lose when we recognize that the greatness we see in others belongs also to us. Our recognition of this is a call to action that, if heeded, will inspire others to see in us the greatness they also possess. This creates a chain reaction of greatness unfolding itself endlessly into the future.

Ultimately, greatness is simply the best of what humanity has to offer. Greatness does what has not been done before and inspires the same courage that it requires. When we see it in others, we know it, and when we trust its presence in ourselves, we embody it.

Oh yeah...well the Jerkstore called and they're all out of you.
Come on now Dik - give me something better than that - I need a good laugh.

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that Robert Ferguson's agent contacted the Skins. Most people think he'll end up in Houston given the Mike Sherman connection.

Do the Skins have any interest?

I like those JM, thanks for posting them.

Hmmmmm. Should I believe what Joe Bugel comes out and says to the media, or what unnamed "personnel executives" with another nfl franchise say to JLC?

If today's piece was a column, fine. But an "I told you so" article from the skins beat writer in the WaPo? Lost a lot of journalistic respect this morning.

My favorite part is that heyer has looked good so far....

J-La-C...

"So you're saying there's a chance..."

Yeeeeeessssss!

I have nothing against MB. He's a great guy, humble, seems to have been a good friend and mentor to Ramsey and JC and he took a big pay cut to stay witht he Skins and help where he could... However, it seems that is where his Upside starts and ends... He just been slowed by age, and injuries and is no longer willing to stay in the pocket and take a hit to sometimes when he needs to... Although, he is Super Smart... ;-) It seems that Todd Collins is more than able to be the back-up to JC and if ATL is willing to give us a decent mid round pick for this him, we should do it. A 3rd Rd pick unlikely, but maybe a 4th is a possiblity... We need to start stockpiling our picks so we can accumulate to good young talent and depth behind our aging guys (especially on the O and D lines)... I'm wondering why Vinny's JACK-SJK is not trying to shop him to ATL for a pick now that Shockley is hurt...

Just pointing out your woeful unoriginality and incongruous name choice.

"oooo - your name is Dik... that makes you stooopid ... duuuuhh.." lmSJKo

I've heard better jibes from 4th graders.

.. So are you taking shots 'cause you actually like Brunell?

I'm caught up on the comments. Periculum, you totally lost me on the Pizza Hut comment. Yeah, we do have Pizza Huts here, but nobody's forced to eat there.

As for this grossly rumored trade to the A T L, why would our junk be someone's treasure. Here are the QB stats from the Falcon's last game:

PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
C. Redman 11/21 90 1 1
D. Shockley 4/5 46 0 0
J. Harrington 4/7 31 0 1

Bramlet rides the pine. After Shockley's injury in the 4th quarter, Bramlet dosen't even get in. He may make the team but likely won't.

Harrington is the starter. Redman is the back-up. So ATL is suppose to give us something for our should be #3 QB so that they can have a 37-year-old third string QB. Why? No one in professional sports is this stupid. No not even here.

Atlanta does what it can this year with what it has and Harrington either blooms or plays like we expect him to and Falcons are officially on the clock.

There is no pressure for this coach to win now. Season over. Audition for next year.

Hey all. Been a long time since I have posted, but I have been keeping up with it lately. Since it is now pre-season and there is now a reason to really keep up to speed with it.

As to the OL, while Heyer has struggled, it is not all his fault, it is the usual incompetence of the personnel dept. that has traded away numerous draft picks over the years that has led to this chronic depth shortage on both lines, year in and year out.

And because of this, you have a rookie free agent like Heyer being thrown to the wolves after just one injury to the OL. Also, he cannot be performing horribly, or else I do not think that Big Jake would have given him passing grades so far this pre-season. Rather ironic that a group that was supposed to be the strength of the team heading into the season is now it's most glaring weakness. It also does not help that Jansen is starting to look his age and of course, who knows how it will take Samuels to return to form. I must say, that I had a bad feeling about the OL once Dockery signed with the Bills, as that move was one that would help expose that lack of depth.

As for the Noodle-Armed Mummy, I doubt Atlanta would give anything more than a 7th rounder in 2057 for him.

At times I've been frustrated with Brunell during his time here, but I'll ALWAYS remember those two throws against Dallas.

The past 10 years have been mediocre at best. Mark crushing Dallas was the best Redskin moment over the past decade. Thinking about that game still cheers me up.

Sometimes I think we owe Mark more respect than we give him. Thanks for the memory, MB!

did the redskins really release lemar marshall?? i saw it on profootballtalk.com and apparently adam schefter reported it?

"Is Bugel losing his touch as far as evaluating talent?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

Again, Bugel is trying to convince us that he is making a diamond out of a turd and I'm not buying it....but Coach Joe is.

Makes you wonder if it's not time to get a new head coach in here who is up to date with the times. 27 years ago maybe it would have worked when scouting was less efficient but not today.

One a side note the D looks impressive. Maybe it's time to give Williams a shot at being head coach.

If I were Campbell(or Collins) I'd be fearing for my life against the Ravens. It could get real ugly.

"The Falcons called once about Mark early in camp and were told the Skins had no interest in dealing him."

I really would like to know why Gibbs has such a stiffy for this guy?

A bunch of morons running the Skins right now. :(

- Ray

Ray in the house!!!!!!

I totally agree Joe in Raleigh!!! MB has done everything within his abilities to help this team. The game in Dallas 2 years ago was CLASSIC! We all needed that badly. I think the blaim shouldn't have been directed to MB, but the reluctance of a certain Hall of Fame coach to bench him during his struggles... I kept saying last season that they needed to bench MB and get JC some epxerience sooner then they did... It probably should have happened 2-3 games sooner... Furthermore, I know its only pre-season, but the way Todd Collins has come in and played really makes you question their QB evaluation... OR lack thereof...

Jasno, Thanks for the updates.

I said this on the blog a couple weeks ago- why not move Jansen to Soups blindside and Heyer to RT. Heyer's would learn a lot more playing next to Thomas, and Jansen would be able to help out more with Puch/Wade/whoever.

Thoughts?

Ray - think back to when Gibbs courted Brunell. Then Gibbs had an 'episode'...almost a heart attack, I guess... and Brunell actually drove Gibbs to the hospital. For a man of Gibbs demeanor and character, I'd say 'saving your life' probably carries you all the way until you're ready to stop playing.

So I think Brunell will get more chances in DC as long as Gibbs has a say.

Ray... I don't agree. Bugel is doing the best he can with the resources he has been given... You can't deny the fact that the FO has screwed the pooch trading all their picks away... picking a few offense lineman in the 5th, 6th and 7th rounds ain't worth a SJK... That's so hit or miss and they shouldn't be relying on any of that... that is bonus territory if u ask me... Give them credit for finding Heyer and giving him a chance... He's an undrafted rookie and seems to be a decent find thus far... The problem is they are in the position of needing to start him right now which is poor...

It all comes down to personnel mgmt ONCE AGAIN... OLD NEWS. This SJK will continue until they kick Vinny out and hire a TRUE GM to run the show.

Ahhh Ray....always sunshine....

Buges is a freakin legend, do we even know how much imput he has in who we draft/pick up....why did Dockery just make mad cash....b/c he was coached up like crazy by Bugel...

The O-line has been a strength again since he has been here and they certainly haven't had 5 pro-bowlers, he coaches these dudes up. Her doesnt pick the players or is at best a voice amongst many...

You show zero knowledge when you slam Bugel like you do....talk to me week 6 and see if were all whining like middle school girls who didn't make the Drill Team about the O line...

Ray are you seven "gibbs has such a stiffy for this guy" silly bro, silly....

Greg Williams is not HC material. I think that's pretty apparent.

His schtick may work on a defensive unit but I don't think his mentality is right to run an organization.

Somebody needs to get on the phone with Ray Brown!!!! That dude is awsome even if he is old enough to have been one of the hogs from Gibbs version I... he probably would be our best LG today coming out of retirement.

RANDOM!!!!

Greg Williams is not HC material. I think that's pretty apparent.

His schtick may work on a defensive unit but I don't think his mentality is right to run an organization.

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?

No way should double G become head coach. If that happens we will really be in trouble.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=71#s=71&f=1348&t=867680

Also, I don't think you can really blaim Bugel on all this. What would you have him say? To critisize in public does 3 things:

1. Undermines the kids confidence.
2. Calls out the GM, his friend for 30 years.
3. Further point out a weakness for the opposing teams.

I'd love to have Jansen move to guard and wade to right tackle but if he doesn't want to do it then it causes a distraction and messes with team chemistry.

Don't blaim Joe Bugel for lack of depth at the position he coaches. Applaud him for his loyalty.

Blaim the front office for a lack of depth and the play caller for not helping the kid out.

"Should I believe what Joe Bugel comes out and says to the media, or what unnamed 'personnel executives' with another nfl franchise say to JLC" (from WrongDog, 10:11 AM)

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OBVIOUSLY, the unnamed personnel execs are more likely to provide the straight dope. They have no serious incentive to be playing CYA/for-public-consumption games. (Now, if they were going by name to their own city's media, then of course they're having to think politically.)

And you get around bias (say, the Dallas personnel guy hates St. Joe, hypothetically) by multiple sourcing, and sticking with your reliable sources, and building trusted relationships over time--what any good reporter would do.

Look around at what other NFL beat writers do--the good ones do just what JlaC does. Bob McGinn at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, for instance. I don't read him regularly anymore (used to live in Milwaukee), but he routinely goes the anonymous-NFL-personnel-guys route and it sure adds credibility and great content to his assessment of the Pack's roster.

As far as I recall, JlaC is the first WaPo reporter to do this kind of thing routinely, and it represents a significant improvement on the Skins reporting we have access to. Believe me, I've read the Post on the Skins for 36 years (with various years out for grad school, etc.).

It is definitely a change from the past, and I can see that it reads like disloyalty to the skins to quote outsiders--but think about it, ain't that what you want to try to get the best picture?

JlaC rocks (even the gratuitous Dave potshot was funny and apropos in our new blog-centered world of journalism)

E read Rays post that everyone is reponding to.

Not sure if this is old news. I just heard about it.

Eagles cut Trotter this morning:

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=eagles&id=5589019

Bugel is doing the job. Just like he did for Turner's offense in San Diego. You know those guy dontcha?

He likes Heyer and Armstrong. Noting that Lefotu, a 7th round pick still sits deep in the depth chart in spite their desperate need at guard!!!. That Molinaro and Wilson both middle round picks are gone.

There was a reason why they kept Jacoby for so long, and Bostic. Moving Jacoby to Guard. Even at the end of their careers when they were more or less crippled and couldn't play 16 games they would bring them in and they would PLAY BETTER than the STARTERS for the brief periods they could go! Ray Brown was a good example of that. Right NOW Ray Brown might be their best choice for right guard at age 43. Its about having heart both to work hard and to slam the defense back in the running game. That's where the intimidation starts. You intimidate defenses on the run. YOU BEAT THEM DOWN then when they are their lowest you sling passes over them.

Its not Bugel its who he has to work with. Right now the undrafted guys appear to be better than the 3 they drafted recently. Wasted draft picks. Who knows who is to blame.

But Heyer and Armstrong are keepers. And they have Wade. That's 5 good tackles. They just need to find some guards other than Lefotu as well as a backup center better than Cory Raymer.
They just have one guard right now.

lemar marshall out, randall godfrey in

I think Jansen would be happy to try to play guard if that's what the team needed. If the Wade experiment doesn't pan out you might still see that. There is still some time left.

I think Jansen would be happy to try to play guard if that's what the team needed. If the Wade experiment doesn't pan out you might still see that. There is still some time left.

We cut Lemar?? WTF?!

"As far as I recall, JlaC is the first WaPo reporter to do this kind of thing routinely, and it represents a significant improvement on the Skins reporting we have access to. Believe me, I've read the Post on the Skins for 36 years (with various years out for grad school, etc.)."

Maske used to do it ALL the time.

Haven't seen any credible sources report the Marshall thing but Trotter is a bit surprising.

I have to imagine that those anonomyous quotes are verified by Cindy or someone else.

Who thinks that a Scout with Baltimore or Philly is going to go on the record and bash the Skins coaching staff or players so bluntly. This type of quote is not unheard of in sports and regular news reporting.

Frankly, I don't see why this is a big deal.

Yes they still need corner backs. They don't need OLB. At least until Marcus Washington retires. They don't need tackles. With Heyer, Armstrong, and Wade I think they are set. They need guards and centers next year. They still need a legit #2 wide out.

So ....

1. Corner backs. High 1st, 2nd rounders.
2. #2 wide receiver. (What Taylor Jacobs was supposed to be.)
3. A Backup for Cooley. (Tyler Ecker?)
4. Guards and Centers.

farstriker- unnamed personnel execs aren't necessarily more likely to provide the straight dope, they are more likely to give their OWN opinion. I do not know if they have watched the film in-depth, do you? I don't know if they have ever seen the guy play. I do not know. Would you trust Vinny's assessment? He's a personnel exec, right? So maybe these guys are better at talent evaluation than Vinny, maybe not (probably are, but I digress). Joe Bugel has a track record that I can look at and I trust--and he has made public statements on the record supporting this kid. I hear ya on CYA, but Bugel has stuck by this kid and the evalution I have seen with my own eyes is not the same as what JLc is reporting. JLC stated himself that he "has railed against this from the beginning." Remember the "Experiment Over?" post? If Bugel and co. wanted to cover their asses, they would have tried a vet like Fabini at the spot. But they thought he played well. I thought he played well from my understanding of line play. The detailed play-by-play anaysis I have read has been mostly good. And that one blown block wasn't even all Heyer's fault. My point is that JAsno has had an opinion on this situation from the beginning and today, in the WaPo, he wrote an article that was not objective or balanced in any way. If it was just on the blog I would disagree, but be fine with it. But he crossed the line today and I'm pretty shocked Cindy/Emilio/whoever put it in the paper.

Why would they cut Lemar with Marcus being injured? H.B. Blades looked good but beyond him and Lemar as backups, we have nobody else.

Jeremiah Trotter got cut by the Eagles...

Signing Godfrey makes me think Marcus is in worse shape that we are being told. Lemar is not a big guy.

Please Redskins, DO NOT SIGN TROTTER. Biggest. Sandbagger. Ever.

Ray, do you ever have a positive thing to say about ANYTHING? I'm seriously asking here. You are doom and gloom on here and on the Wizards blog. Really sad.

I think if MB goes to Atlanta, he starts over Harrington. At least I would start him.

The FO and coaching staff seem to have been acting slightly more sensibly, dating back approximately to Jason's starting. If they can keep Jason relatively upright, and it seems gravely questionable whether they can, I have to admit I'm encouraged.

I missed from mid-December to last week; What's SJK?

When the defense was solid in 2005, I believe Lemar led the teams in tackles. Although not big, he's a smart player that is always in position and makes plays. By the way, Fletcher is not big either...

On the topic of young QBs from good schools with tons of potential: Tim Couch cut today by the Jacksonville Jaguars.

On the other end of the spectrum. Vinnie Testaverde signed by New England.

And you thought there was no market for Brunell?

Yah thats pretty crazy...why would you cut lamar marshall...he was pretty good when he played in place for Lavar a few years back. Does Randall Godfrey have a history with Greg Williams? I don't like this move. Lamar could backup all 3 positions and knew the defense pretty well...

Hey |,

Where are you getting this:

"lemar marshall out, randall godfrey in

Posted by: | August 21, 2007 10:58 AM"

?

WrongDog -- great point about Vinny, I do confess.

JLaC on 980 in a couple minutes.

CMoney make sure you give us the info.

look it up, marshall out, godfrey in (shefter reported, sp?)....i believe godfrey played for williams in tennessee

If they cut Marshall, I will be pissed. How many times can you screw a guy who performed well for you in several different positions.

Holy crap it's true. Redskins.com (video...breaking news).

SJK!!!!!!!!!!

Look it up where? Provide a link.

Godfrey played for Double GG in Tennessee in 2000.....SEVEN years ago.

Trust the GGenius, I suppose...

Where did you hear about Lemar Marshall? Where's the link? Nothing is out there that I can see?

Redskins.com (video...breaking news).

Just saw it. Ding, ding, ding, ding Jason what do your sources know about that?

Despair.

damn, wiki is fast:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Godfrey

New post...Lemar Marshall released.

Well, now we know who the Eagles will replace Trotter with...

I saw something from back in June where G-dub obviated Marshall due to McIntosh's recent advancement. Anyone know how much Marshall was counting against the cap? Maybe they're getting ready to make a move? Dare I say, for OLine help?!

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