amen Jasno

Let the speculating commence!

joe's love for brunell is sickening.

but let's commence to our regularly scheduled fanfare aka...from the last post:

these are exciting times. i haven't felt this good about this team in such a long time. really. when was the last season this team had so much going for them?

even jasno's nfl annonymous execs are saying that the only problem skins have is/was on their o-line. and they took care of that a little and hoping to get samuels back.

let's go people! buy that big skins flag to put on your front yard every sunday, get your lucky jersey ready, clean your lucky seat and move that big screen in the perfect spot. cuz we're goin to the superbowl!

Trading away more draft picks for over the hill players today. We could have used the pick to draft our next left guard of the future....now we get this guy for 2 years and he retires

Jason! Why do you hate the Redskins so much? When I say "Hate" I mean, point out the obvious.

Oh yeah, if you don't write articles that only talk about the good stuff with this team. Then you must be a hater. We think that because we're too stupid to think anything else.

Yours In Christ

Karl Swanson aka Andyman (Breaking NFL rules to post information on websites since 2004)

first

Can Someone Please tell me what they gave to get Pete Kendall?? -Thanks

I heard 2.7 M

from previous thread:

I will never totally let the FO off the hook because they shouldn't have waited until halfway through the preseason and after JC get his knee folded until they addressed the Oline issues.

But I will say, this was a great move and he is better than any guy who would have gotten cut and he should have enough time to be ready by week one. I have no more major complaints about this team and now am fully in the Kool-aid line and am excited about the season. 9-7 or 10-6 and the playoffs BABY!

Now can we dump Brunel to the Falcons and recover this pick we sent and I'll be ecstatic.

A solid move in the short term made necessary for the continual oversite in the long term. It is embarrasing that an NFL team that thinks they are playoff worthy was looking at starting an undrafted rookie at LT and an out of position tackle at guard.

At least if they moved a 2009 pick, that is something.

This isn't aimed at Janso but.....so what if coach joe is vague....GOOD...he was a master of non information.....the genius bill bellycheck says nothing, lies etc...and its "game planning"

what is gibbs gonna tell the morons in the press room the real thinking.....no way...

so, ok aimed at janso, why make a big "seems to me...." insinuation....

st. joe is gonna scrap, defend, lie for his team....and i for one luv him for it!!!

according to jasno skins gave up either a 4th or 5th in 2009. which is kinda hard to believe.

Alexander, The word is The Jets will get a fifth-round pick in 2008 or a fourth-rounder in 2009

Jasno, I love the impartiality and even the healthy skepticism, but its time to think about your career. This town LOVES a homer. TK can't buy a drink in D.C. ever since the "Bandwagon." Even better - look at George Michael - he is a sports icon in this town. He gets close access to Gibbs as long as he maintains the company line AND he is now handing off the job to the WHITE-HOT (and also very smart, don't get me wrong) Lindsay Czarniak. Think it over...impartiality=respect, but homer=free booze and Czarniak. It's up to you.

Great follow up Jason.

It shows you're really in tune with the team's strengths and weaknesses and can read the tea leave in Ashburn.

Keep it up.

agreed with above, plus he's getting a raise. (don't tell RB)

I'd choose free booze over respect any day. Respect can always be found at the bottom of a glass.

And from strippers. You can always get respect from strippers.

I hate you JLC. All you do is speak the truth while I readily eat the horse crap that is fed to me daily by ES.
-McMetal.

A 4th or 5th rounder for a starting guard is a great deal. Hopefully that's all they gave up.

And hopefully they left themselves some cap room to resign Cooley.

Regaining the draft pick in a deal with Atlanta for either Collins or Brunell would be nice. The skins don't need two solid aging backups to Cambell on the roster. If they were smart they's give Palmer some playing time this week and see if he's got any potential.

Like the Kendall trade. Good move at the right price it appears. Two things: 1) Howard Bryant's article in ESPN is phenomenal on Gene Upshaw. 2) Lindsay Czarniak is not that hot and in fact, I would say not hot because she is so goofy. Throwing that out there. I have enough guy friends (The Glover Park Mobsters et al.) so I don't need a girl to act like my boys too. Erin Andrews is actually really amazing. Class, sophistication and that mule is Top 5...in the world.

BOOYAKASHOT!

i think goofy can be kinda hot.....

This just in: Larry Michael of redskins radio claims to have "broken" the story of the Kendall trade. I guess Mike Vick "broke" the dog fighting story since he knew about it before anyone else. So funny how they act like they're a separate entity from the Skins.

Found another doozy for spiking the Kool-Aid. Check out nfl.com's Fabiano picking "sleeper" picks for kickers in fantasy football. http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801b51fb Gostomski from NE, Mare in New Orleans, and SUISHAM! Way to go nervous little kicker guy!

Yes, strippers. Mmmmm, strippers.

comes back to the tj "18 carries" ducket 3rd round pick disaster. maybe that pick this year would have yielded a nice guard. ooops gave it away for some magic beans. btw george michael is a yapping idiot, who like him?

what's a BOOYAKASHOT?

Why is it that the Redskins site is always the last to put up any kind of news? The Kendall trade news is on NFL.com, the Jets website and just about everywhere else but nowhere to be seen on Redskins.com. Get with it Danny boy!

OK people, put down the bong. Brunell will leave Ashburn when he retires...he's not getting traded. He's shown little during the preseason to warrant the kind of 'value' Gibbs will expect for him...and we all understand that the coach is 100% in the tank for him...it killed him to be forced to go to JC last year.

Lindsay Czarniak is hot as balls.

Lindsay Czarniak is hot as balls.

Lindsay Czarniak is hot as balls.

Did someone say strippers??

OK people, put down the bong. Brunell will leave Ashburn when he retires...he's not getting traded. He's shown little during the preseason to warrant the kind of 'value' Gibbs will expect for him...and we all understand that the coach is 100% in the tank for him...it killed him to be forced to go to JC last year.

Posted by: B&G | August 23, 2007 02:23 PM

I'm a little upset by this post. I totally agree with what you said about Brunell, but nobody tells me to put down my bong!!

Jasno has a brass plaque at Night Shift in Baltimore. Takes many a private dance to get one of those.

I like strippers, Lindsay Czarniak and Erin Andrews. Oh..and Lisa too. I'm still waiting on the answer as to if we can get her in the Chris Cooley booty shorts if we're 7-3 after ten games....

Jasno: thanks for the posts. But before you pat yourself on the back too much, consider that Coach Joe may have been ticked at you only because articles like yours threatened to drive up the price we had to pay the Jets, not because he disagreed with you. His vote of confidence in the o-line the other day may have been as much about trade posturing than anything else, although I think he and others genuinely think Heyer can play (which he can).

I'd choose free booze over respect any day. Respect can always be found at the bottom of a glass.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 23, 2007 02:14 PM

Don't forget about strength and a sense of self satisfaction....

Ok besides the things I see with my eyes that Brunell looks shot and Todd Collins is looking alot sharper than him,it was a no brainer to start collins(But I wont read anything in that) I love coach Gibbs
What was the reason to trade for Kendall if its not to start him and keep our present and our future from spending the the rest of the season in a sweatsuit and crutches standing on the sideline.

Why is it that the Redskins site is always the last to put up any kind of news? The Kendall trade news is on NFL.com, the Jets website and just about everywhere else but nowhere to be seen on Redskins.com. Get with it Danny boy!

Posted by: Why? | August 23, 2007 02:23 PM

Its because per NFL rules, they can't post it until its official. So, they have Karl Swanson use the name "Andyman" to go on Extremeskins and post the details. Then its just a "leak", to manipulate the weak minded into thinking the sports media is behind on all their news.

the hit was illegal! it could have happened if dockery was there, it could still happen with kendall. We completed a 30 yard pass on the so called hit that justifies your theory based on unnamed executives.

is BOOYAKASHOT another way of saying SJK? seriously, we all know what sjk is by now, but not a booyakashot

I advocated the Kendall trade up here 3 or 4 weeks ago when I first heard he was unhappy. That said, I love it. A solid veteran, good in the lockerroom. If we stay healthy, the playoffs should be a lock.

Jason,
I wish I was 1/100 the Journalist you are. I'm very jealous.

Its because per NFL rules, they can't post it until its official. So, they have Karl Swanson use the name "Andyman" to go on Extremeskins and post the details. Then its just a "leak", to manipulate the weak minded into thinking the sports media is behind on all their news.

Posted by: The Reason | August 23, 2007 02:29 PM

Why is it on the Jets site then?

"Joe's love for brunell is sickening."

The only QB I saw Gibbs stick with far too long was the always loquacious JOEY T.

You don't see it do you? Gibbs is easing Brunell out. He is giving him a show to demonstrate what he can do for other teams. Particularly Atlanta. Hopefully they can get a draft pick for him to ease the pain of losing a pick to the Jets.

I've seen him do this in the past too many times.

"Jason Campbell broke his collarbone yesterday in a Redskins win over the Titans in their first preseason game as he a failed to pick up the corner blitz and was hammered by a blitzing Titan"

Jason La Canfora spoke with unnamed executives who questioned Jason Campbell's intelligence and why the Redskins would have him out there in a meaningless preseason game.

Balls are not hot IMO.

Mad Dog, you should be their new GM! What should they do next?

I heard there is no more tailgating in the CASH lot....is this true??

skins suck. need to unload my season tickets again!!

JLA - I like you I really do but I have been a skins fan and a Gibbs fan for a long long time...so your not so sutble disrespect for them really f n bothers me...Gibbs doesn't trust or like you it seems...it makes perfect sense for Gibbs to say what he said as coach...you are looking for reasons to rip the org and that bothers me to...Gibbs wants depth and other guys to feel like he is being fair...Gibbs knows how to play it...you don't ok so stop withyour whining because Gibbs doesn't give you a scoop or honest answer and your bitter 'cause you don't have better relationships at the Park...your super bowl blogging was good tho!!!

Good call Periculum.

>>> "Balls are not hot IMO."

Well put.

Lindsay Czarniack gives a mean Jeff Smoker... I mean MAWWWNNNEEE

Yeah, Karl posted it on ES about an hour before it when on the Jets website.

That's a nice gap on the NFL clock.

brunell needs to get shipped out for whatever we can get for him. 5th rounder, 6th rounder...whatever. we won't get jack later on and he won't see another regular season snap in a redskins uniform unless both campbell and collins are gone. let's GET a draft pick for once instead of giving them away!

brunell's just standing in the way of jordan palmer's potential development.

if gibbs loves brunell so much, fine. he can be hired as a consultant and then he won't count against the salary cap.

Jason,

I'm a big fan of yours but why are you all up in arms over Gibbs not naming a guy who hasn't even practiced the starter?? Sure we all know Kendall is coming here to start but it makes no sense to just come out and make an announcement before his 1st practice.

And the Skins FO's hands were tied here. If we acquired a guard in free agency we would have paid a ton. Instead they re-signed Wade who AT WORST can be a solid 3rd tackle and let training camp play out to see who else would become available. I'm sure they've been monitoring the Kendall situation for some time now. It's unfortuate the JC got hurt, but it was a dirty hit and you couldn't predict the Samuals injury and what team has a great great backup left tackle situation? I keep hearign about Gaither from Baltimore but I actually watched the Giants game and he got shook completely on a couple of moves that game. So even the "all mighty" Gaither would have been beaten badly here and gotten JC hit on occasion.

Jason, we need you to be cool with Gibbs so you can do your job well and get us some information and dirt on the Skins. Love your work man, but you sounded a bit snappy up here and I just don't want that to ruin your relation with the team, which ergo ruins our coverage of it. Your better than that man.

herb, the quotes from Joe Gibbs are to an "assembled media", not to Jason LaC exclusively.

Well Jason,

If you were Gibbs WOULD YOU WANT TO PISS BOTH WADE AND PUCILLO OFF? They don't play for you. They need both of them, sans any controversy or attitude problems.

The guy is 34. He is a transition player. Perhaps Wade (and Heyer as others have suggested) will learn to play both guard and tackle. Perhaps one or both will start. Perhaps the same will hold true for Armstrong. They need time to coach/teach these guys. Why not let them have it?

AND they still need better depth at QB. They needed Patrick Ramsey without the attitude over Brunell and Campbell. Sheesh what a guy? He could have started here. Probably would be. What has he done with these other teams? He is a backup, always the backup and never the starter.

JASNO, do you think Gibbs wants that headache again on the offensive line after losing both talent and sleep at the quarterback position?

This makes perfect sense. Show case Collins and entertain possible trade talks. If Collins gets destroyed MB moves up to number 2.

Gibbs is the perfect fit for DC. Just about everything he says is the opposite of the truth, we all know it, and we all love him for it.

Colleen Dominguez outclasses Erin and Lindsay.

Really for GIbbs to be such the Christian, he is one hell of a liar! I must have been naive the 1st time around, but I bought his lines then. His constant lies and denials are a major reason the fans are so upset with the team.

GREAT TALK ICARUS!

"Jason, we need you to be cool with Gibbs so you can do your job well and get us some information and dirt on the Skins. Love your work man, but you sounded a bit snappy up here and I just don't want that to ruin your relation with the team, which ergo ruins our coverage of it. Your better than that man."

JASON, Dinosaur brains 101:

1. Don't report that sources within Redskins park agree with your "unassailable" sources from other teams. You really did not have to say that to make your point at this stage of the season. IT HASN'T even STARTED YET HAS IT?

2. Make your sources less "unassailable", try point-counterpoint. Let them make their point, and ask them what they might do instead. Do the same with Gibbs and company. Just as you hate the unimpeachable Joe Gibbs, I hate unassailable anonymous sources who are used to pick at every single false step the Redskins might make in preseason.

3. Take on St. Joe, but do it with hard facts and less conjecture by the unassailable sources. Joe doesn't like to conjecture. Haven't you noticed?

This dweeby blog entry oozes with sarcasm and arrogance. Maybe Jason should realize anyone with two eyes realize the problem at LG. That is not ground-breaking journalism. It's patting yourself on the back for stating the obvious.

Do you actually think that it would be in a coach's best interest to say exactly what he thinks? Only a few successful coaches have gotten away with that (Parcells for one- and we see how overrated he was in his old age). More often, successful coaches keep everything in house and project a positive air to the lapdogs in the media.

"Gibbs is the perfect fit for DC. Just about everything he says is the opposite of the truth, we all know it, and we all love him for it. ...."

Posted by: mugamack | August 23, 2007 02:43 PM

Waitress : Tuna on toast, coleslaw, cup of coffee.
George : Yeah. No, no, no, wait a minute, I always have tuna on toast. Nothing's ever worked out for me with tuna on toast. I want the complete opposite of tuna on toast. Chicken salad, on rye, untoasted ... and a cup of tea.
______

George : Excuse me, I couldn't help but notice that you were looking in my direction.
Victoria : Oh, yes I was, you just ordered the same exact lunch as me.
George : My name is George. I'm unemployed and I live with my parents.
Victoria : I'm Victoria. Hi.

Hopefully they can get a draft pick for him

peric, did you just start following this team this season? cuz they don't think like that. they never have and never will. Win Now baby!

why's everyone getting mad at jasno like that? the guy's doing his job. he's being conservative. just like madden. why would he go out on a limb (like us) and risk his career and then later follow us on the ledge when the skins suck like they been for sooooooooo long.

we have nothing to lose with our optimism, no matter how justified we think it is. meanwhile it's jasno's bread and butter. you think he's gonna get fired cuz he didn't like the skins moves?? he's sure as hell to get fired if he says "i love the skins! and every move.". in other words do you really want mark maske back?
;p (just playing cindy!)

that was me up there!

-littery

I'm amazed how many people here are cool with Gibbs getting dissed like this.

Did I just read a we need Ramsey post? I love you Periculum your insanity brightens my days.

We need nothing now except for people to stay healthy, we actually now have a very solid team, if a decent rush end comes available during cuts or a shocking WR cut happens that would be something to look at, but otherwise we are set. And frankly, this team as it currently exists can win the division.

But we certainly don't need Ramsey. And to his great credit, he never got an attitude here.

what we NEED right now ... and I got the fever for it ... is MORE COWBELL!

Czarniak is a hottie, but let's not overlook the FOX ON FOX, Jillian Barberie!
NOW THAT'S HOT!!

F ChRis LarRy (soory that was totally gratuitous)

The Truth is out there.

Jasno will seek it because that's what really good journalism is about. Not presenting two sides to a story.

It's okay for him to add his opinion and even speculate which separates nicely by adding:

"Alrighty then. Whatever."

And I say, yeah...whatever Coach Joe I know you gotta grow your people and not divulge anything that could hurt the team.

Jack, someone said something about 10-6, which to me seems unheard of, at least in the NFC East, unless you have a bunch of lucky breaks that includes the final game of a back who has announced he was retiring midseason before heading off the the networks ... but they you still end up losing in the first round of the playoffs.

The stating rotation is as it should be. If Brunell has to be on the team, let him bring up the rear. Let's just hope that Collins gets off to a better start than last years debacle. Even with that, I have more confidence in him than the alternative.

Jeez I'm already tired of hearing you guys moan on this log like a bunch of byataches. I heard Joe say distinctly that he wasn't satisfied with the line. He was specific that he had a problem with Jlac calling out Heyer because the sacks weren't his fault. What is wrong with you people? Why don't you guys get up off your butts so that your ears can hear?

poop

"it doesn't make sense to..." When does that matter? It didn't make sense to trade TJ Duckett and not play him last year either. Don't put anything past Gibbs here. He might start Heyer just b/c he is worried about hurting his feelings after giving up the hit that almost ended our season last week.

Anybody know which pick we traded for Pete Kendall?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2988171

I echo prodigal son. Any adult can read between the lines. Yes, we have OL problems. Yes, Kendall was brought in to start. But, just because we all know that doesn't mean that Gibbs should be throwing guys under the bus hours after they busted their butts for him.

It also doesn't mean that Gibbs promised Kendall that he will start. Maybe Wade starts this week and dominates. We can only hope. I bet Kendall would still start the last preseason game, however that doesn't mean Gibbs should publicly hand the position over to the man.

I for one am quite happy that Gibbs isn't throwing our guys under the bus, I'm happy he defended Heyer and I wish others could gain some perspective on what it takes to make guys want to play for you. Gibbs knows that answer.

I think LaCanfora does a good job covering the Skins. And I appreciate his efforts here but I don't worship at the altar. His supporters (and now him) are saying his article was about the left side of the line. It was mainly about Heyer and he quoted people questioning the team's use of the rookie. He was wrong about Heyer and at some point he'll man up and admit it. And why the need to keep saying JC was almost lost for the season. Is it possible he was almost lost for the first game? First 2 games? Let it go man. JC wasn't severly injured. Almost only matters in horseshoes and hand grenades.

my bad. should've scanned the whole blog first.

Dcsween, I've been the biggest skeptic, but now, I feel good baby, we should be able to run and protect the QB, Lloyd & ARE can't be any worse and Moss and Cooley look healthy and explosive again. Here is my revised optimistic prediciton

W Dolphins
L @ Eagles
W Giants
W Lions
W @ Packers
L Cardinals
L @ Patriots
L @ Jets
L 2/23 vs. Eagles
L @ Cowboys
W @ Buccaneers
W Bills
W Bears
W @ Giants
W @ Vikings
W Cowboys

10 wins, 6 losses.

I think this is very realistic, its 3 - 3 in the division, and I think possible.

Jack - you bipolar? all the anger, sarcasm and ranting from the last couple days is now leading to insightful and optimistic posts. good work

The only stretch really is beating the Bears, but Grossman is overrated and they're defense is what it used to be, other than Tommie Harris they have no DT's and Arch Delux is starting for them!

You can substitute that game with the Zona loss in your prediction. We better not lose to them at home.

jack,

i like your prediction, except you have us losing 5 straight games and then winning 6 straight to close the season, this seems pretty unlikely

not bipolar, just happy, we fixed my complaint, that's all I was asking for, without this move you still would have seen skeptical sarcastic Jack because I don't buy that Samuels is good enough to fix all the problems our line had. Now, we have depth, we have talent, and we have a starting caliber tackle on the bench if anything happens to Samuels or if Jansen keeps sucking. I have no more complaints! This is what I was begging and pleading for and I got it!!!!!

10-6 baby
NFC East champs and I think we go out in the NFC Championship to the Saints.

That's my prediction, and you see a Saints/Chargers (possibly NE but I still think San Diego has the most talent) Super Bowl.

Jack, I hadn't tallied them that way (and I would switch the loss against Arizona with one against Detroit ... but I'm absurd that way), but I do see a pathway ... ASSUMING they can DO IT against the Dolphins at home on Sept. 9th. My point is that, while 3-3 in the division is the starting point, it is impossible to have any confidence about how the division match-ups will end ... typically until about 10 seconds remaining in the fourth quarter. MAN am I getting juiced about the season getting started!

Jack,
how do we loose the Cards?

Yeah, I saw the win/loss streaks there too, we've always been streaky though, maybe you can flip flop the Bears win for a Cardinals win. But I think 10 - 6 is very doable.

Stumped,

First, we always seem to screw the pooch on a home game we should win and I don't think Arizona or Detroit are going to be easy games. You watch, both those teams are going to be very much improved.

Plus, I'm with Jack on Chicago not looking the same, esp. on D (and not just Archuleta) and with the loss of Thomas Jones, but how in the world can anybody predict who will still be uninjured enough to stay alive in December?!!?

I agree with a lot of the comments here that Jason is getting a little too touchy about all this offensive line stuff. Yes it certainly looks to any informed Redskins fan like Pete Kendall is coming in to start at left gaurd and that the other options at guard have not panned out well but why would Coach Gibbs throw his guys under the bus? Wade, Pucillo, and Heyer are doing their best and will all likely play important roles down the line at guard and tackle. I don't know what purpose a public lambasting would serve or even so quickly conceding the job to Kendall who is no superstar himself.

Call me crazy, call me stupid, but I still say we beat the Eagles in one of the two. Probably, the first one, (the element of surprise).

Jack,
So, that game falls into: expect the unexpected...okay.

sooo... Coach Joe Gibbs, 3 time Super Bowl winner, didn't want to concede that a WP beat reporter is smarter than him...?

Get off your high horse. Of course they saw a need but they also saw their lineup and felt that there was no better move than what they were doing. Now that Kendall is on the team, they now have a better option. But are they going to show there hand to the entire NFL? Of course not!!

This is a GREAT FO move, GIVE THEM CREDIT. It is definitely deserved!!!! Especially if we gave up no more than a day two draft pick!

Jack, I like how you're thinking. I actually think the Skins win at Lincoln Financial. McNabb will still less than mobile and Skins should be able to put decent pressure on him. Iggles receiving corps does not scare me at all and I think current line up of LBs is quick enuff to deal with Westbrook. I think that's a early game Skins steal. At NYG scares me.

In spades parlance - 10 with a strong possible 11.

Obviously this is all subject to injuries, if Moss tears his hammy again we're 4 - 12. but it wouldn't be any fun to not make predictions, this is my predictions barring injuries, obviously that isn't going to be the case but I'm just trying to guess. I mean if McNabb goes down we sweep the Eagles. It could be better than this or worse, but I think this is realistic as things sound now.

Assuming Samuels, Portis, Washington, and Campbell come back like they're supposed to.

I didn't like those predictions very much, but mine seem like a doable 10-6 also. So as long as we're 10-6, sounds good to me! :)

W Dolphins
L @ Eagles
W Giants
W Lions
W @ Packers
W Cardinals
L @ Patriots
W @ Jets
L 2/23 vs. Eagles
L @ Cowboys
W @ Buccaneers
W Bills
L Bears
L @ Giants
W @ Vikings
W Cowboys

I actually think we'll split with the Eagles. Maybe the Bucs or Vikings will steal one from us instead.

Call me crazy, call me stupid, but I still say we beat the Eagles in one of the two. Probably, the first one, (the element of surprise).

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 03:24 PM

YEP.. CRAZY STUMPED :)

The Iggles have no defense and everything about that team hinges on McNabb's health. Plus there are locker room troubles resulting from the release of Trotter. I'm predicting a series sweep this year. I also see us beating the Jets.

The Vikings will be challenging the Browns, Texans, Falsons, and Raiders for the worst record in the league. They won't beat us. At Tampa always seems like a tough game, but we would have won there last year if Betts didn't fumble and Garcia isn't that good anymore.

Stumped, no way can we surprise the Eagles. Two games a season btwn Gibbs/Williams and Reid/Johnson/Morninweg for a few seasons and there are no surprises, just a couple/few different players. That's why that Miami win is so critical -- to make sure the Skins walk in with a head of steam and some swagger.

Here's a thought to consider. Just stop and think about it...

The final game against Dallas at home for the division championship.

...wait...really relish the thought.

(maybe an overtime Skins victory)

HAIL!

W Dolphins
W @ Eagles
W Giants
W Lions
W @ Packers
W Cardinals
W @ Patriots
W @ Jets
W 2/23 vs. Eagles
W @ Cowboys
W @ Buccaneers
W Bills
W Bears
L @ Giants
L @ Vikings
W Cowboys (girls, nothing to play for. skins, tooning up for the posseason!)

14-2 babeee!!!!

Keep in mind Gibbs' December records; Skins under Gibbs are always hot in December. This year there are 5 games between 12/1 and 12/31. We'll take 4 out of 5 no matter who we play, especially if the division or playoffs is on the line. HAIL VICTORY!!!

I have to bring an element of realism here to the schedule. We need to go better than 3-3 in the division.

See, we see these teams a lot during the year, it speaks to how good our team is when we work our own division. When we see AFC teams we never see, there are many wildcards thrown-in like unfamiliarity for one, that can change a game... either way.

So if we are good against our division (I say 4-2 sweeping the gmen) that will bode well against out of division opponents.

I think we stack up well against the NFC b/c of run d and run O. The pass D and blitzes will help against the better teams of the AFC.

So I say 11-5

Littery, sorry man, there's just now way, you think we can win at the Patriots and Jets but lose to the Vikings? wow, just not gonna happen.

This ongoing childishness from JLC is getting annoying. I love the Skins, my idol is Joe Gibbs, even if we are losing... I would rather lose with Gibbs. Maybe JLc doesnt understand that b/c his team left him in the middle of the night and moved to Indy. I dont give a s***.

you can love the Ravens and hate the Skins from top to bottom, but c'mon. the articles, the blogging... they are so slighted all the time. People dont blog on redskins insider to listen to a beat reporter get pissed at a hall of fame coach. sorry.

W Dolphins
L @ Eagles
W Giants
W Lions
W @ Packers
W Cardinals
L @ Patriots
W @ Jets
W vs. Eagles
L @ Cowboys
W @ Buccaneers
W Bills
W Bears
W @ Giants
W @ Vikings
W Cowboys

Zebra, I don't disagree that 4-2 is possible in the division. I still think 11-5 is lofty though. 10-6 is realistic and would be a great year after last season.

"The Vikings will be challenging ... for the worst record in the league. ...."

Posted by: Jack | August 23, 2007 03:33 PM

Reminds me of how the thinking started last season ... and why the ONLY team to beat right now is the Dolphins. The season was DOOMED last year by that loss on MNF to the Vikings. Maybe it was doomed for lots of other reasons too, but a win against the Vikings could have meant the season would have unfolded completely differently. [Also, losing Prioleau on that kick off didn't help either. Damn FedEx turfgrass, always siding with the other guys.]

Sween...don't doubt our week two chances that much. The Eags have A LOT of injuries and, I for one predict McNabb to have a Carson Palmer in 2006 type of year because of the injury. If we can contain Westbrook (and between our safeties and McIntosh we have the personnel to do just that) then I'd say we SHOULD win that game.

jack, those 2 losses are for resting players. cuz by then the division, bye, homefield, everything is clinched at 13 and OH! but the scrubs play their heart out to beat the girls. cuz they're the girls!

I hesitate to prognosticate, but if I must contemplate our fate and pontificate upon this debate, the skins will go eight and eight Just kidding. They should go 11-5 with losses to at Eagles, at Pats, at Jets, at Dallas, and vs Bears. 4-1 in December to take the division. Hail!

dcsween, that damn first play of last year was so ominous!!!

I was pumped for the Superbowl ride of 2006, flew to DC for the home opener, spent a s***load of money on tickets and watched them lose to a terrible team on MNF. It only got worse the next week... f-Dallas

dcsween, the season was lost when we made Brunel our starter, the absolute worst thing that happened to us was that flipping Houston game where MB completed 87 2 yard hitches and Gibbs still felt like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I still contend that MB has dirty pictures of Joe, there is no other reason a hall of fame coach as good and smart as Joe once was could possibly be as dumb as he has been with MB. Its gotta be blackmail, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

stumped,

we lose to the Cards the same way we lose to Tenn in '06 and Oakland in '05. I can definitely see us losing 1 or 2 games at home we shouldn't lose, which means we need to take 3 or 4 on the road we shouldn't win.

From latest AP story.

"Gibbs said Todd Wade will start at quarterback Saturday night in place of Campbell. Collins and Mark Brunell are competing for the No. 2 spot and have been rotating snaps at practice. ..."

Todd Wade at QB -- now that should be interesting! lol

I'm optimistic about our hopes this season, but would like to raise a particular challenge I see in the NFC East: Philadelphia.

Only when our D was good and when the Eagles were in a virtual free fall without D. McNabb, were we barely able to scratch out a couple of wins against them. For the past many years, as long as they have been at least 75%, the Eagles have handled us. It's generally not even a contest.

How will this year be different?

I'll have what littery is having. Give to to Inigo while your at it please.

F ya'll! how come no one's taking me seriously. we're going to the superbowl! 10-6 "don't buy you shti up here". 14-2 is the only way to be. confident. take-no-prisoner attitude (on the D). healthy P'ed off CP! JC steady as can be.

jasno, keep writing them hating words man. and tell sally to join you too. we need some bulletin board material. they gonna shock the world!

Broken record, but my prediction is 1-0. That's my story and I'm stickin to it. [and I didn't really get there till this morning].

Inigo, I don't have as much trouble with the JLaC/St. Joe cat-and-mouse game (question: which one is Itchy?). The brutality has much more savage right here on this very blog. You may have noticed that chRIs larry pulled up a chair and started throwing popcorn. Teams play games that count. The games that the media/coaches play don't count.

Ricky Bobby is so right. That's exactly what I think, we'll drop one to Detroit or Arizona cause we always do something dumb like that. 3-3 in the division
6 - 2 at home
4 - 2 on the road
Very realistic.

13-0
16-0
or 14-2
or 13-3
delusional

This is now a very good team and I can't wait for the season, but we're still not the most talented team in the league or even our conference. WE ARE NOW very solid on both sides of the ball and should be tough in every game.

Wade does everything!!! For the opener they will line him up as the #2 receiver that he need, he'll use his height and size to be the ultimate possesion receiver. Then he line up opposite Carter on the D-Line for at least 18 sacks this season.

"... Todd Wade at QB -- now that should be interesting! ...."

Posted by: FW | August 23, 2007 03:46 PM

Crap, that's one less roster spot where Priest Holmes can compete.

Nyskinsfan...because the Eagles just aren't as good as people think. Look at last year, they were something like 5-6 before Garcia sent them on a run. Now, they've lost Stallworth, LJ Smith is very dinged up, McNabb is 9 months from tearing his ACL, Kearse looks like a shell of his former self, and they really don't have a solid backup QB if McNabb does go down again...which he seems to do every year.

Gotta go guys, let my new positive vibes permeate this blog and spread the word, Jack is drinking the Kool-Aid again.

I aint smoking whatever Littery is but I am drinking the Kool-Aid baby!

Hey JLC,

Meeeeoooooow! Pick a cat fight you can win!

Baby likes blue velvet... - Candy colored clown!

Frank Said:
Thu, August 23, 2:40pm EST

"This is an absolute disaster! Tangini absolutely blew this one. Kendall was their best lineman, Captain and glue to the O-line. They should have resolved this issue several months ago. Ferguson is lost without Kendall just look at last weeks game with that childish round-robin at guard."

Jason LaCanfora is always so critical of the Redskins coaches/front office..yet you make your living writing about our team here in Washington in our biggest newspaper. But what do you expect of someone who is not a Redskins fan..

4-12

(LOL. You all knew that was coming!)

mmmmmmm...Erin Andrews on ESPN now. Yummy!

I maintain that the Eagles are consistantly good on both sides of the ball. They were really banged up when we were able to beat them a couple years back, and I don't think that is the case this year. They are deep and have been and will be the team to beat in the NFC East, if not the NFC...in my opinion anyway.

All that aside, I don't want to hear that we're going to beat them because they are not looking that good (even though I've heard that they DO look good). I'd like to hear how our team has been brought to a level where we can compete with them. I've got a few ideas of how we are better, but am not totally convinced. Just trying to get people to give me specifics on how we're more up to the challenge.

seriously, inigo, c'mon man! let JC play middle of the road, safe. it's okay. that's why there's only one mel kiper.

Back to Brunell going to the Falcons.....can anyone tell me what he has shown this preseason that makes him worth anybody wanting him? So far all I have seen are his standard 8 yard passes or throws out of bounds, or taking sacks b/c he can't even drop back well anymore. And this against 3rd string. The Falcons would be crazy to give up anything less than a waterboy and a used kicking tee much less a draft pick. Gibbs will never cut Brunell, but there is no way ANYBODY would trade for him.....

who knew all it took for Jack was a burly guy from New Jersey? ;-p jk.

To shed a little light on the OL saga...

Gibbs is likely serious when he says Kendall was brought in for general depth purposes.

Obviously, the situation at LG probably expedited the move, but Gibbs and Bugel have always had one guy on their roster who could play all 5 positions.

I have heard Bugel call him the "swing guy" and Gibbs and Bugel intend that player to be the "6th lineman" who plays whenever someone gets hurt, and not a regular starter.

During their 1st tenure, that guy was Raleigh McKenzie. He was a 9th or 10th round pick and went on to have a stellar career, both with the 'Skins in the 80s and the Packers in the 90s.

I believe the reason they drafted Kili Lefotu was for that role, because Lefotu had played all the OL positions in college. But he is a project and the Redskins need someone now.

So enter Kendall...

So I think what Gibbs was trying to say is Kendall will serve a larger role with the team beyond just being the starting LG for the immediate future.

I am not sure why people in the last two posts are so pissed about the Kendall deal. We get a starting Guard for a 4th round pick. Granted, we might have been able to him for less, but we had no levearge in this deal. It's not like the Jets had to trade him. Again, the forth round pick might have been a little high for a 34 year old, but if we did not address the OL, it would have been a loooong season.

Joe Gibbs would break down in tears if Brunell was traded. It will never happen, but if it does, please remember this Deeeeeeeeeeeep Thought, by Jack Handy.

"It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man, to laugh at that man crying"

"Gibbs is likely serious when he says Kendall was brought in for general depth purposes. ..." - Cliff Hux

Reminds me ... I think Fabini gets cut.

Ramsey to his credit never bellyached in public, to his credit. But in private ... I remember the great article by a post reporter who happened to be on the scene when Snyder was having dinner with Ramsey's agent at Blackie's House of Beef, or some other bistro I don't recall? The guy asked to be traded right after Gibbs signed Brunell and purportedly after their discussion about it.

Yeah, he really bludgeoned Gibbs. But in private. YA KNOW Jack IN THE NFL players are paid a lot of money. Just because you are were the starting QB last year does not mean you don't have to compete to earn that job this year.

I don't believe in franchise quarterbacks. I don't believe in starters by default. And I don't believe in Clinton Portis sitting out the preseason like a primadonna. Hey Portis ya need an oxygen mask already?

Jason, can we tone down the anti-Gibbs rhetoric a little?

I generally like your reporting, but not lately. I think some professionalism would be nice. I'm getting close to leaving this blog after a year of fun times.

I mean, do you really expect the coach and team president to give more straightforward answers? He's not there to make your job easy, he's there to worry about intra-team politics and the like. Maybe he needs to say those things, even if they're obviously false. Also, your target audience understands how these things work. We know why Kendall is here and we know why Gibbs has to give the answers he's giving. We're not stupid, at least most of us aren't.

Coming up with the cash for Kendall in this season suggest to me that alot of the veteran depth (like Fabini) who came in on one year contracts face the cutting ax. Was Stoutmire a multi-year deal or only this season? I remember that Fox was a 2-3 year deal. Corey Bradford and Todd Pinkston both seem like they have this ONE game to demonstrate they can earn their one year, vet minimum deals. For guys in the league that long, vet min deals escalate dollar-wise.

If so, meet me in the "A friend in need" bloq to cyber. I've been told that I look like Brad Pitt.

Thanks

Posted by: nyskinsfan | August 23, 2007 03:58 PM

You know what you are talking about. I despise the Eagles but they are the team to beat in the division. People say their WR's suck but they can spread the ball around to Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown, LJ Smith and Westbrook and be successful doing it. McNabb when healthy is the only proven QB in the division. Their OL is very good (rumors about Shawn Andrews being hurt could be big) but they are deep as well. IMO their weakest spot is the LB's and DT's. You have to run the ball on them and wear their defense down. I think it is realistic to split with them and the Cowboys while sweeping the Gmen. That sets us up for the playoffs.

"... I don't believe in franchise quarterbacks. I don't believe in starters by default. ... "

Posted by: peri wrinkle your nose | August 23, 2007 04:07 PM

I think Old School has a theory about that first one. On the second one, I think Mr. Tomlinson and I will have to agree to disagree.

"There is still a lot there that needs to be done," Gibbs said. "But we're always looking for somebody who we think could add to the team and fit in with us."

The deal is pending a physical by Kendall, Gibbs said.

Asked what Kendall would bring to the team, Gibbs replied: "He's proven he can start in this league and he can play center and guard, so he gives us some flexibility. He's a proven guy, for sure. We think he's a legit player."

"Gibbs is likely serious when he says Kendall was brought in for general depth purposes. ..." - Cliff Hux

The guy is ostensibly the Jet's best lineman, in the same league as Randy Thomas. Who are we kidding. Hopefully Wade + Pucillo don't pout in private like Ramsey and ask to be released. He's a kind of a transition guy. He's 34. He starts until the new guys are ready. Now at least they have a few to work with ... hopefully?

Same deal on defense with Randall Godfrey. The guy is equivalent to a Marcus Washington or a LaVar Arrington (sans the drama) but HE IS 34. He is a transition player until the younger guys are ready.

They NEED to do the same with Shawn Springs who is about he same age. The need to get 1 or 2 more young corners beyond Rogers that he can be coached/tutored until they are ready.

Its being done on the DL to an extent at least at tackle.
Its being done at safety.

They still need a real wide receiver not a converted quarterback who is better suited to 3rd down out of the backfield.

Collins looks to start. Brunell might be gone if Palmer plays well. If he is released he goes to Atlanta.

What is the big flippin' deal about Gibbs not saying they brought Kendall in to be a starter? Does anyone really think he would come out and say that? No way....he does not want to disrespect or piss off Pucillo or Wade.

It's no biggie and nothing for anyone to get their panties in a wad about.

Guys, this isn't the paper, it's a blog... and this particular blog is about inside Redskin news and his/our opinions. If it were based strictly on facts, JLC would simply post the articles he writes for the paper and look for comments. Now how boring would that be?

JLC is no different then every other blogger out there. He calls them like he sees them, good or bad. And since March of '06 we've been pretty darn bad.

NYSkinsfan...that's reasonable. You're absolutely right to have a "show me" attitude about the Skins. I actually agree. We've all heard the hype before and I've been burnt one too many times to buy into it 100%.

That being said, the key to beating the Eagles is the ability to run the ball down their throat with no turnovers while also not allowing the big play on D (since McNabb is generally not accurate enough to nickle and dime you down the field and they generally don't establish the run enough to sustain long drives). I just see the same flaws they've always had and I don't think their D is as good as it was a few years ago.

On both ends, I believe we can do that. Our o-line and RBs should be very solid and our D looks vastly improved.

However, while I like the timing of "getting" the Eagles because of their injuries, I'm crossing my fingers that our offense can gel by then.

MMmmmm....Panties in a wad!

They still need backup quarterback depth that isn't over 34 years old. Even the Eagles have finally wised up enough to draft a guy to step in for McNabb. McNabb has overwhelmingly proved IN PRESEASON (not on the bench with Portis) that he deserves to start and may be the best QB out there.

That said its pretty clear the Eagles are the team to beat.

and now Lisa's got Jasno wearing panties!

POSTED 9:33 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:51 a.m. EDT, August 23, 2007

TROTTER RELEASE SPARKING LOCKER ROOM REVOLT?

We're hearing rumblings that the release of linebacker Jeremiah Trotter has sparked a locker-room revolt against management.

Trotter was regarded as a T.O. guy -- an in-house supporter of the talented but troublemaking wideout who disrupted the team in 2005 as he tried to get more money. And, as we hear it, some of the guys on the team who are the most upset about Trotter's release are the other T.O. sympathizers.

But it's not just the remaining pro-T.O. crowd that is unhappy about Trotter being gone. Quarterback Donovan McNabb has expressed his own questions about the move.

The eagles are not the team to beat in the nfc east this year... the f-ing cowboys are. their D is playing lights out and down right scary and with a solid running game from two starting claiber rbs... this team is going to give us fits.

it pains me to think it, let alone say it... but we are gonna have our hands full with them this year.

I know a lot of Dallas fans that would disagree. Assuming the Giants don't fall apart until the second half, our division could be very tough this year. It's up for grabs.

peri winkle,

I agree with everything you just wrote.

It's actually one of the smarter things I've read on here. This is exactly what Gibbs does is get vets who can do their thing until the young guys are ready for those roles.

No doubt Kendall will be the starter, but he wasn't just blowing hot air when he said the guy will provide further depth at other spots. They actively seek out a guy like this. That was my point.

JLC wanted to say this was just about Wade/Pucillo sucking, and that it was a panic move, but I believe Gibbs/Bugel had other reasons for getting this guy as well, if their history is any indication.

Btw, I think Eubanks and Westbrook are the two young guys behind Springs.

Earlier post to peri, not Inigo.

I think Gibbs has spent too much time in D.C. - he's starting to sound like a politician now :(

Seems like the way to transition out of a free agency built business model is to start trying to bring in young guys and get the very best of the very old to make the trains run on time while the young guys figure it out.

Richard Robert (Ricky Bobby, is it OK to call you that? Joey Harrington will never make it in this league till people call him Joe), you'd been really pessimistic in recent weeks. Does this Kendall move light a candle in your darkness? Also, anybody heard from AMMTS? He seemed particularly gloomy round TC time.

I do like the fact that the Eagles cut Trotter; he wasn't the best backer in the league, but he really fit their system and played like a beast. They will definitley miss his leadership and passion. Looks like Dawkins gets a little more of the injury bug each year as well. If he goes down their D is done without him or Trotter firing everyone up. We can beat them in Philly if we go up by ten and the "greatest fans in the world" start in with their boos. Don't get me started about their fans.

Of course, we need to get by Miami first. That is much easier said than done. That D is opportunistic.

I hope the Skins get something for Brunell or Collins. They both could be useful on other teams. But the Skins only need one backup, and Brunell is too expensive for the emergency QB role.

"I have heard Bugel call him the "swing guy" and Gibbs and Bugel intend that player to be the "6th lineman" who plays whenever someone gets hurt, and not a regular starter."

Could happen in the future. When younger, stronger guys are ready to start. Meanwhile he will start.

He actually said that. Man... Joe Gibbs 2.0 is not as good as the original. No sh*t Joe... I am sure you just paid that large salary for another back up O Lineman. Kind of insulting to whomever he was speaking to. I would have asked him if he really thought I was that stupid. What a bunch of BS. I hope they will this year or I'll be calling for a return to NASCAR.

Not to blow my own perverbial horn... but I wrote durning the draft that OLine depth would kill us this year just like the playoff year and we were lucky last year to keep them all healthy.

Kind of muddy comments by JG on Kendall. But I don't get why he wouldn't be more open.

Why not just say Kendall is a really good player who fills a need. And that Wade can move back to tackle where he has been more successful. Come on Joe ... admit the experiment didn't work as well as hoped and that you did the right thing and ended it.

Love the ongoing O-line saga b/t Joe and JLC. It is pretty clear what is happening, thanks to JLC.

It should also be clear that Coach Joe can't just come out and validate everything that is written in the press. He has a whole different set of interests that do not include satisfying journalists. JLC should recognize this and not take what happens at Redskins Park so personally - even though I am sure that he gets balled out by coaches sometimes for his work. Part of the job. He gets paid for it. The end.

Was good to see a positive story about the 'skins today (the Landry piece). Finally.

I like your post Dave. Jason is great but getting a little too touchy on this one. Missing the obvious forest (Joe Gibbs as President/coach/leader of men) for the trees.

Moreover, though everyone here hopes Kendall is the starter and a good one at that, he is not exactly Steve Hutchinson. I am not sure what purpose immediately annoiting him the starter serves when he has not even taken a physical or read the Redskins playbook.

People who think Gibbs suddlenly became a politician must have been to young Gibbs mach 1....he invented SAYING NOTHING!

In his return he has been to forthcoming and willing to talk. Keep on saying nothing to the gaggle of reporters baby....thats called being a COACH IN THE NFL....

Cliff,

Gibbs is loyal to his veterans to a fault. He needs to realize that in a salary capped league you can't just rely on your higher priced vets... you often need to rely on your younger, often times rookie, players to be productive. I hope he's finally seen the light at the end of the tunnel and let's Landry start, but it's taken him 4 years for this to even dawn on him, which is disturbing.

Going in a different direction, I don't argue that some younger players should in fact be groomed by a veteran, but how worthwhile is it to be grooming 5th-7th rounders, plus 10 undrafted free agents year after year? Sure, you might find a diamond in the rough once every blue moon, but it's just not as realistic to find a depth guy who progresses into a starter in the later rounds of the draft or not drafted at all. The Skins desperately need to focus on these low to mid round picks. I can't stress it enough. Others on this board have done the same. When will this point get through their stinking heads? I hope next year, but it's awfully hard doing that when you're trading away MORE picks to deal with problems most teams have already prepared for.

"The eagles are not the team to beat in the nfc east this year... the f-ing cowboys are. their D is playing lights out and down right scary and with a solid running game from two starting claiber rbs... this team is going to give us fits."

McNabb has the line, the arm, and now the receivers to score even on Dallas. Dallas won't score against Philly. Philly wins.

With Godfrey I think our defense will play at the same or a higher level than the boys. Again who will score on the other? With the acquisition of Kendal, the Jets best OL, I think the Skins do.

Message to Gibbs: Say Nothing!!!!!!

Why should he admit stuff? This is football not therapy.....jeezus Fing christmas!!!!!!!!

This is insane...say it with me people "coach speak"

"I hope he's finally seen the light at the end of the tunnel and let's Landry start, but it's taken him 4 years for this to even dawn on him, which is disturbing."

Like Petitbone before, Grilliams makes that call. It seems clear he has already made it. Landry already starts with the 1st team. Stoutmire doesn't even appear on the depth chart. Draft pick Doughty does!

Mike (Annapolis): KC - how about answering a question about the one major trade (involving starters) that went down today? Is Pete Kendall a good fit for the Redskins?

KC Joyner: (4:23 PM ET ) I've had a ton of Pete Kendall questions, so I guess I'd better weigh in on him. My take on Kendall is that he won't need to be a world beater to do well with Washington. The Skins have one of the best O lines in the NFL, especially from a run blocking standpoint, so Kendall will simply need to fit in. He's more than capable of that if he stays healthy

F the eagles.....and hard

I hope they have knife fights in their locker room and open assaults on the front office.....if Trotter destroys the locker room that would be his best play as a redskin...ever

Just yesterday we hit 77,777. Now we're about to fly by 78,500...

"Was good to see a positive story about the 'skins today (the Landry piece). Finally."

I personally think all of his stories are good. If they weren't they wouldn't bunch up the panties of the Redskins brain trust now would they? I just think he can be a bit cleverer and more complete when writing them so that they can't smash mouth him on TV.

I hope he writes one about this year's "special" special teams.

Based on their recent personnel moves. They are thinking at least NFC Conference game.

Based on their recent personnel moves. They are thinking at least NFC Conference game.

sween,

If they still have enough money at the end of the day (or next year) to keep Cooley, Campbell, and Taylor, I'm fine with the move.

I mean, it's a great move for depth NOW, but every move has a snowball effect, especially on this team. Plus, what good would this move be if we finish 5-11 again, or even 7-9 or 8-8? Who cares? At some point you need to simply say, "well, we have some bad players and bad luck, BUT we're going to go at them with what we have and stop mortgaging the future". You should only mortgage the future when you're a playoff team, not to HOPEFULLY get to 8-8 following a 5-11 year.

I hope that makes sense.

Mmmm the Kool Aid is getting better and better with the Kendall news.

"No More Injuries" is my chant for the next 3 weeks.

Whatever you took littery it's fantastic! You're like a whole new guy, new look, new shorts, new take. HSJKll maybe that's why everyone is taking Jasno to the woodshed cause we're all drinking the Kool Aid and tuning the bandwagon.

" ... This is football, not therapy...."

Posted by: chris laRry | August 23, 2007 04:37 PM

Journalism comes down to a succinct turn of a phrase. cL has nailed it on the St. Joe media game. THIS IS NOT IMPORTANT. Simply remember that Joe does not lie ... but he doesn't come forward with full truth if he doesn't need to ... and he rarely needs to. Half disclosures are huge benes for the fans, but it is absolutely counterproductive for the head coach to say anything. Belichek's approach to not talking works. Mangini has become down right overboard with it. JLaC just calls it like it is ... and it is what it is.

Also, on nfl.com, there is a video of Mangini at the podium and he said that Kendall ALREADY passed the physical.

Ricky Bobby, got it. Cautious and skeptical optimism ... maybe not glass half full, but instead glass at half capacity.

ricky bobby,

They *have* late rounders and undrafted guys in the fold, some of whom have been thrown into the fire like Heyer, Espy, Golston, Montgomery etc. Sounds to me like Blades is next.

It's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders they don't have.

But it sounds like they will begin incorporating those types of players since they seem intent on keeping the 2nd and 3rd rounders in addition to their 1st's from now on.

Question: If Lloyd, Brandon really DOES light it up this year (like in the range of Santana's numbers in 2005), would it be worth trading him for one or more Day One picks?

get off portis' back. Last year was not that long ago.

I think WE are the team to beat in the NFC East this year.

snowball...So, will Cooley and JC be upset that we signed a new lineman who will free up the former to score more TDs and help protect the latter?

I'm all for punishing the FO when they do something silly, but I think we need to realize that this move made a TON of sense and not question it. How much did Buffalo pay for that other lineman we let go?

Also, Brunell doesn't deserve the abuse. He played well until he got hurt and kept playing while he was hurt. He also didn't have a lot of dudes to throw to other than Santana. He took us to the playoffs and got us a playoff win.

Yes, he threw into the ground a lot and really started to suck when Saunders got here, but I wouldn't put all of that on him. I don't think the QB depth chart is really worth talking about anyway. If Campbell goes down, we've got two capable QBs who CAN HAND THE BALL OFF TO PORTIS OR BETTS.

The blog has been on fire today. I'm off to bag some birdies. You guys stay on par.

here is how i see it...in the blink of an offseason we have become a very deep team....not over the top talented but deep in lots of important places.... cb, safty dl, rb and now oline, that depth means good special teams...again i say the line betwen good and not to good is thin in the nfl and the way we opperate gives a chance to improve everyyear. we don't just sit back and draft we will do what ever it takes to get a player we want who can help...forget the money, we are better than anybody at cap monte carlo.... the difference for who ever said awhile back i don't believe in franchise QB's is thats exactly what we may have....sooo for the first time in along long time we are actually building a team with a foundation doing it with a mix of veterans and young players with a proven coach....now we just have to see how it turns out...but we are clearly on the right track.....Its a NEW ERA....not say'n

The Jets actually could have been something last season with that O-line if they actually had a single competent running back who wasn't injured. Their passing yardage was nice (and it wasn't an all-Coles passing game either). Other than finding someone to replace Kendall, they have some steam from tackle to tackle. My feeling about facing the Jets this season improved just b/c they LOST Kendall. That the Skins actually get him is the ham sandwich.

"Question: If Lloyd, Brandon really DOES light it up this year (like in the range of Santana's numbers in 2005), would it be worth trading him for one or more Day One picks?"

My hunch is that even with those kinds of numbers (unlikely with Moss and Cooley getting a lot of balls) teams would not be willing to take on his gargantuan contract (especially the guarantees). Teams can be skeptical of one good year at WR, especially if the other WR (Moss) is drawing a lot of double-teams to open him up. Lloyd might (I hope) be a solid No. 2, but he is NOT a No. 1.

nyskinfan
that other player(doc) we let go to buffalo has had a whole offseason and training camp! Kendall has WEEKS!Saunders playbook is bigger then the CRATE of DEPENDS that show up for all these old fu*** we keep signing!!Dont even say it will be easy or he will be ok! Instead of a guard who sucks and JC gets killed We have a guard who misses assignment blocks WRONG guy and JC gets KILLED AND we lose DRAFT PICKS WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO!!

the really surprising thing is that there isn't a bona fide, straight up ham sandwich on the menu. http://www.johnnyrockets.com/themenu/items_favorites.php Maybe they just weren't moving them priced in the $300K to $1M range.

Gibbs being a good coach by covering for his players and spinning out half-truths when speaking to the media and JLC calling Gibbs on those misstatements are not mutually exclusive. Gibbs is likely doing what he should be doing, and JLC is doing what he should be doing by reporting, analyzing and pointing out misstatements when he sees them.

If I had any criticism of JLC (and I don't) it would not be that JLC is pointing out that Gibbs and the Redskins are peddling a line of bull in public, but that JLC could report or opine now and then WHY they are doing so.

dcsween your the ham!

RPOFH, Your post is distracting and unpleasent to look at.

As for your points, you really make none. I will just retort that we're in a better place than we were hours ago. Can't argue that point.

F RPOFH!!

Relevant Question that hasn't been asked yet:

How much Cap Space did we have before we signed Kendell????

Does anyone have to get cut?

According to http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salary%20Cap%20Position.html as of 7/28 we were $6.612 Mil under.

So, we should still be $2.5M under the Cap.

Still enough to sign Cooley.......

Ah, 4th--darn it...I think we're going to have to cut Cooley because of this signing.

Seriously, why are you asking?

According to http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salary%20Cap%20Position.html as of 7/28 we were $6.612 Mil under.

So, we should still be $2.5M under the Cap.

Still enough to sign Cooley.......

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 23, 2007 05:23 PM

This # doesn't include Laron Landry, Stinkston, Godfrey or Kendall.

4th et al, they need to cut somebody for roster number reasons, not cap reasons.

Why does Coach Joe say stuff like that?! Makes him sound like Don Rumsfeld. Just because you're in DC doesn't mean you *have* to resort to govt-speak.

That # also doesn't include the moner freed up by cutting Marshall which pretty much is taken by Godfrey. 2.7 mil to Kendall and not sure how much for Stinkston. May not be ny if he doesn't make the team. When can we get the details of Landry's contract so we can have a better idea of how much space we have?

That's my prediction, and you see a Saints/Chargers (possibly NE but I still think San Diego has the most talent) Super Bowl.

Jack, you do realize, you're talking about Norval kissing the Lombardi.

Chargers couldn't make it with Marty. NO WAY IN HELL they make it with Norv, deer caught in the headlights, Turner.

I forgot about Landry's deal. We are prob around $500K - $1M under the Cap now. Landry's Cap #s haven't been revealed.......

Sween - I wasn't talking about cutting for roster nor cap purposes purposes.

What teams have been doing usually for 1st rounders are to give them a base salary with a small roster bonus (Prob $3-$5 Mil) and give them a bigger gaurenteed roster bonus to be paid in March of the next year. That's where they get most of their money.......

"Pending a physical, the Jets will receive a fifth-round pick in 2008 or a fourth-rounder in 2009 for Kendall, an official within the NFL said Thursday."

I'm confused on the Cooley extension. If we sign him to an extension won't that count against next year and beyond cap? Isn't his salary + bonuses this year all that counts?

Oh and I forgot to do this earlier . . .

*toot* *toot* *toot* *toot*

Right SFskin. But if you have cap dollars left in the middle of the season, you have until (I think) week 10 to sign someone to an extension and be able to use the remaining cap dollars in the current year to sign them to an extension. That way the Cap dollars do not go unused.

We did that with Betts last year..

KJ said earlier on WashPoLive that it will be a 2009 draft pick that can be as high as 4th or as low as a 6th, depending on how much he plays........

"POSTED 5:48 p.m. EDT, August 23, 2007

REID'S SON IN TROUBLE AGAIN

WPVI-TV in Philly reports that Britt Reid, the son of Eagles coach Andy Reid, has been taken into police custody on suspicion of DUI. Per WPVI, Reid was taken to Mercy Suburban Hospital in Norristown, Pennsylvania for drug and alcohol testing.

Reid, 22, pleaded guilty last month to drug and gun charges arising from a January 30 road-rage incident. He is out on bail pending sentencing, and the presence of any alcohol or illegal drugs in his system could trigger immediate incarceration.

After Reid and his brother, Garrett, were involved in separate incidents on the same day in January, the elder Reid took a leave of absence from the team. The NFL calendar was relatively open at that point, making it easier for him to step away.

But with the regular-season opener only 16 days away, it will be difficult if not impossible for Reid to devote significant time to this situation, and it will potentially be a major distraction for him as he prepares for another NFL campaign.

"

Ahhh, as I feel bad for Andy Reid, his kids are freakin adults. At some point they have to sink or swim. But, I'll take the contraversary from another NFC East team.......

"Thursday, August 23, 2007
August 23-- Pete Kendall deal done

The Redskins have completed a trade with the Jets for guard Pete Kendall.. At the time I am writing this, Kendall is in the building and taking a physical, assuming he passes, the deal will be complete.. The compensation is as follows, the Jets will receive a 2008 5th round draft pick unless Kendall plays 80% of the offensive snaps this season.. If he meets that criteria, the Skins will give New York a 2009 4th round pick."

Is it an additional 4th if he plays 80% or just a 4th?

one or the other, not both

The skins will be lucky to win 8 games. Seriously people, the kool aid isn't working, hasn't worked and won't work. Philly and Dallas will be the contenders of the NFC East

solid analysis smokin joe. thanks for that. good and insightful

Thanks. Almost as insightful as the post.

If people are so insightful and hate the post. Hate Joe Gibbs. Hate JLC. Why are they here?

So KJ was right. Plus for Comcast!

Smokin Joe. I AM THE GREATEST!! (And I kicked your SJK. heh heh heh)

Hmmm old guys at Redskins park? If anything the brain trust
decided that they didn't have enough to ride herd on all the
youngsters that suddenly appeared.

You replace Marshall (basically a backup) with a McIntosh 25, Blades 23, Sartz 24 PLUS a Grilliams favorite Matt Sinclair 25 and the average age declines precipitously. One wonders if "old man" Khary Campbell 28 makes the cut given that behind these are Trucks 24 and Jones 25. So, you have 30+ Marcus Washington, Fletcher at 32+, and Godrey Randall 34+. All could end up starting. But look at who they have behind them to watch, learn, and hopefully emulate?

Redskins depth at the #2, and #3 positions would be younger than ever before! This appears to be exactly how to build a team and they might be finally getting it right for the long term?

Now let's look at the O-line? Let's see Samuels is 30+, Jansen is 31+, Thomas 31+, Raubach 30+, and now Kendall at 34+. He is younger than Ray Brown and Brown was pretty damn good for a 40+ year old