you still suck.

Haven't posted in awhile. Just wanted to say thanks for doing the blog, Jasno.

A little justice. Hooray!

4rdstth!

Stop with the 1st/1rd/3ifth crap already.

Good last article Jasno

Regarding Kendall and the draft pick... were there other teams interested in him? What kind of salary would he have commanded if he hit the open market?

Maybe it was a shrewd move by the FO by giving up a draft pick instead of having to bid on him in the open market. Saved ourselves some cap space? We might have been priced out by other teams.

Maybe, just sayin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/1997/history/allart/87vikings.htm

First!

Top Tenth!

If only that hit to Brunell's knee in '05 would have ended his career... would we have seen some cap relief then?????

Let's be honest, how funny is it that our 3rd string QB has a 47 mill contract? SUPER SMART UP YOUR BUTT, GIBBY!

Hey "you suck," stop discording the blog! At the least, be creative. I'm tired of the foolish vitriol aimed at our dedicated blogmaster.

Dull vitriol bores me. I don't come here to be bored.

If you must, lay a vitriolic haiku on us or something.

Like this:

Jasno rips St. Joe:
Bitter soccer wannabe.
Hail to the Redskins!

(Not something I would write, overall (although the third line is a classic), but provided for educational purposes.)

Got it? Angry dudes, start bringing it with humor or creativity.

These are the 'Skins I grew up with.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/1997/history/allart/dw1995a.htm

Who said Brunell is 3rd string, anon skippy?

Hey Top Tenth and all you first guys, pretty lame not putting your name out there.

No one will ever know who you are.
If you're going to bust your a** to get in the top 10 you might as well put your name out there for the credit.

Thats a hefty fine, though I doubt that'll deter Keisel or others from doing it again.

Cheap shots are for punks.

4th, Thanks.

I hope all goes well for you and yours in the future.

The 1st/3rdth/4nd morons are a necessary evil, like Cowboy's fans. Can't say I like them or even want them around, but ultimately you have to have some appreciation for the hemmeroids that remind us to wipe better next time.

Thanks A$$ Hats for your hard work in the blogosphere. You are appreciated.

12rdsth!

Brunell couldn't be a back-up in the XFL right now, and that league folded 30 years ago.

WHOOPS! Nevermind, he's the 47-million back-up for the Redskins who can't throw 10 yards down field and looks like Star Jones (pre fat surgery) trying to move around in the pocket.

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!! HA

AND THEY SIGNED HIM UNTIL HE'S LIKE 47! SMART MOVE THERE!!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20426743/

"Who said Brunell is 3rd string, anon skippy?"

Atlanta has him listed as 1st string. Enough to command a 47 mill contract given the circumstances he will enter.

Hey Jason THANKS MUCHO FOR THE UPDATES DUDE! At least we know you aren't bored there? What's next? Guess we have to wait until after the game for speculation ...

hey farstriker...you suck too.

JaCan't just sucks more.

Better?

Lindsay Czarniack is mawwwnnneeee. I last heard she was banging Todd Collins...

Lindsay Czarniack is mawwwnnneeee. I last heard she was banging Todd Collins...

Zebra,

I read that Kansas City and Miami were both trying to get Kendall. Redskins did great to get him at this price, for a fifth pick, and with no signing bonus.

http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/2007/08/gq-gives-us-photos-we-want.html

Thanks Jason. :)

I still say it was Heyer's fault Campbell got hit at all, he engaged Keisel and then let him go.

I don't buy that it was the guards fault, and the coaches shouldn't think we didn't see the play correctly.

- Ray

Marginally. You can do a lot better.

Come on, I want to see you criticizing your guts out!

tHANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTS mark. I appreciate it.....

Is it Beer:30 yet? Anyone else thirsty? I'm quite parched and dying over here...

$12,500 for potentially ruining years of hard work and a run at the playoffs...yeah, I'd say that is as fair as Mark Brunell in a shot-put competition.
YUPPPERZZZ

Thanks for the update JLC. It should have been more.

Everyone should read this article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/history/gibbs/articles/jg91fet2.htm

You may become a better person for the rest of the day. I have.

For all the people that are leaving worthless nasty comments you're pathetic. You don't have to agree with everything that has been written here, but remember your reading Jason's personal views. All this "you suck" stuff; if that's how you feel then don't read his blog. I don't always agree with what Jason may have to say but that's what you debate about on here you don't have to be nasty.

I like Peter.

I like Peter too.

Now, "Gay Guy," that's what I'm talking about! That's funny!

You are CYGO!

4th, if you havent read Gibbs book 4th and 1, you should... great read whether you are religous or not.

Did the Redskins give up too much for Kendall?

Jason thinks that $2.7 million is too much, but he doesn't cite any statistics. As a professional economist (when I'm not a talent evaluator) I'd judge that salary relevant to the following:

1. The salaries, including bonuses, of the Redskins' other starting linemen.

2. The average salary, including bonuses, of all NFL starting guards.

3. The salary that other teams would be willing to pay him.

So, Jason, how does Kendall's salary compare to (1) or (2)? I bet you don't know -- you're just blowing wind.

Now, I don't know how to find any of those numbers easily, but I do know, from Jason's story, that the Jets were willing to pay him $4.4 million for 2008/9. The Redskins are paying him $5.0 million for the two years. But, recall that the Jets had already paid him a signing bonus, so they obviously valued him more than the $5.0 million the Redskins are paying.

Jason thinks a fifth round pick (or fourth the next year which amounts to the same) is too much. His reasoning? McNair and Green were bought for about the same.

Well, duh. In the case of the two QB's, there was no competition for either. Only Miami wanted Green, and only Baltimore wanted McNair. Kendall? The 'Skins had to outbid Kansas City and Miami. So, you've got two physically questionable QB's that no one wanted and a robust guard in demand at a time of the year when he's the only option.

Is a fifth rounder too much? This year's fifth rounder is Dallas Sartz. Who's more valuable to the 'Skins -- Dallas Sartz or Pete Kendall?

I don't think fines are the way to punish players. Unless they are still under their rookie contract, will $12,500.00 really hurt Kesiel?

Solution - 1 game suspensions for low blows (Don't get excited Jack, not that kind of a Blow... and sorry to your kids in advance).

1 game suspensions would not only hurt the player financially, but the team they play for as well. If JC would have been out for the year with a knee injury, name 1 person in the Redskin's Organization who would be ok with the only punishment being a $12,500.00 fine.

* The Redskins are 4-1 to win the NFC East (lowest in the division), 20-1 to win the NFC and 50-1 to win the Super Bowl, ahead of just nine teams. The over-under for their-regular season win total is 7.5.

* The Redskins are also three-point favorites Week 1 vs. the Dolphins; the over-under is 36.5 for that game. The Skins are +7 at the Eagles in Week 2, +3 at the Packers in Week 6 (lock!!!!), +10.5 at the Patriots in Week 8, +3 vs. the Bears in Week 14, +5.5 at the Giants in Week 15 and +2.5 vs. the Cowboys in Week 17.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/07/our_local_teams_odds_of_winnin.html

Hey lets be honest here i think some of the 1st, 3rds, 5ths are regular posters on the blog who post anon 1sts just to get a laugh about doing it.
I myself am guilty of this two or three times. I find the whole routine and subsequent argument a humorous part of the blog.

Go Peter

SOME LIKE NUTS, SOME DON'T
ALMOND JOY has NUTS, (vertical smile) MOUNDS DON'T.

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20Pages%20Summary.html

"Did the Redskins give up too much for Kendall?"

He would be the oldest most experienced lineman there.
If he is a good mentor and "player-coach" he might be well worth
the pick and the salary to whit:

Samuels Kendall Raubach Thomas Jansen

Heyer Pucillo Wade
Armstrong

I was there at that game 4th!!!!!!!!! It was a Glorious day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me and my bro bought some scalped tickets for $35.00 a piece. One of the best days of my life

Don't sweat the "you suck" crowd. This is just an effort from some ES folks to attack anybody who writes about the Skins.

If the Skins want the ES guys to have so much access, let them sit with Mr. Snyder in his private box. They aren't Journalists. Or they are failed Journalists pretending to belong.

Sadly, they have a crowd who loves it when they act like little children, so they just keep it up. They don't even realize they make jerks like Lenny P and Peter King look professional.

Updated today. Now lets get Cooley locked in.

Current Cap Position

$2.781m under the Skins adj cap of $109.656m.

includes $1.087m tied up on players on IR.

Ray,

Its actually not as simple as you think. Ignoring that the hit itself was an inexcusably stupid play by a veteran Keisel, the hit resulted from a combination of poor play by the guard and inexperience by the tackle. The play was a fairly simple stunt in which the guard has to "deliver" Keisel to the tackle. In this case, I'm not sure Heyer knew it was coming and the guard let Keisel loose too early. As usual, it was a combo. If it was Heyer next to Kendall, Kendall would have prevented it. If it was Puc or Wade next to Samuels, Samuels would have prevented it.

If the agent is willing to talk, no excuse for Cooley not to be extended by Week 3 or 4. WE CANNOT LET THIS DUDE HIT HIS CONTRACT YEAR. REWARD HIM NOW!

Kendall is the lowest paid starting offensive lineman on our team now. He counts less towards the cap than Todd Wade. I'd say it was well worth it.

Thanks for the link.

Average salary per year, including bonuses:

Samuels--$6.7 million per year
Thomas--$5.7 million per year
Jansen--$5.1 million per year
Rabach--$2.8 million per year

And last, but least:

Kendall--$2.5 million per year

So, how can Jasno complain that the's overpaid? He's earning less than any of the other starting linemen.

Reading JaCan'ts writing is like wiping my asz with a papertowel. It does the job but it hurts like hell!

Landry only counts $2 Mill on this year's salary cap. Great. The future years aren't complete on his deal, though........

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20-%20Detail.htm

Thanks IM. It might be meant for me to read the book (4th and 1). I kind of believe in those things.......

Dear "ES Reader" person,

I don't know what an ES is. I just think his writing sucks. Negative and spun from a sour point of view. If this ES believes the same thing, I guess it is wise.

you suck.

Looks like Kendall got a $1.5 Mil Signing Bonus as well, which is included in the $5 Mill toal value deal.

Chump change the way the Skins give out bonus $$ around here.....

you suck.

Posted by: you suck | August 24, 2007 04:50 PM

school starts next week. you repeating 2nd grade yet again, or are they finally letting you move on to 3rd grade?

Look around 3:20 on the clip. It was definitely Heyer who let Kesiel through.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PfAu6oHL5QU

I dunno - I kinda like J-La's writing. I enjoy the blog work too.

If you don't like it, why would you be here. He can't help it he's a Ravenette. We all have faults.

For instance, you suck....

...
..
.

...well - that about covers it, doesn't it.

Hey - anyone have any ideas on the Castro rumors? I'm stayin' indoors tonite 4 sho.

I think Jasno's criticism of Kendell is age-related.

How does age 34 compare to the ages of the other linemen?

10 til 5 on friday afternoon and I'm still at school with a long to-do list. My stinking aid didn't do anything I asked him to do (he's a Cowboys fan too btw) School starts Tuesday, I have fantasy drafts tonight and Monday night, and I think I may need TiVo this season.

The Dorf will Abide at school most of the weekend

Oh, & Jasno - what kinda picks scheme could we get for Cooley now, do ya think?

school starts next week. you repeating 2nd grade yet again, or are they finally letting you move on to 3rd grade?

Posted by: | August 24, 2007 04:52 PM

NOW THAT REALLY SUCKED! GET BETTER.

Does anybody beliwve that Vick didn't gamble on his dogs? That's a pretty claculating plea: guilty to fighting and cruelty, let the public suck hind... innocent to gambling so he can play again in the NFL.

Talent Evaluator,

"So, how can Jasno complain that the's overpaid? He's earning less than any of the other starting linemen."

Perhaps because like myself he was hoping that they would take Brunell and a draft pick and perhaps get this guy from the Falcons:

"Coaches can't stop talking about how impressive rookie guard Justin Blalock is as both a run and pass blocker. It will be interesting to see how he performs Friday at New York (Jets). Defensive end John Abraham has looked great, maybe even faster than last season."

It's a damn shame that the NFL is more worried about Vick gambling on the fights rather than the fact that he actually took part in them and killed dogs.

I believe Vick didn't gamble!!

Samuels - age 30

Thomas - age 31

Jansen - age 31

Rabach - age 29

Kendell - age 34...the oldest, but the other 4 starting line average 30 years of age.

Keisel got fined!?!?! Who would ever have thought THAT would be a blog topic to talk about? (successful campaign completed).

Thanks, Jason.*

* La Canfora is Italian. It means "The Canfora."

Somebody made a comment about game suspensions. Might make sense, but for repeat offenders. Fines for this type of infraction also should be indexed to seasons in the league and contract pay range.

Sounds like direct and illegal to me. F the Steelers and their players. F Pittsburgh fans and writers.

periculum, Justin Blalock was the Falcons second round draft pick ... and the Skins just signed Pete Kendall to play guard. John Abraham just got there last season (though he'll be injured and out for the season within a few weeks). I wouldn't think the trade value of Mark Brunell comes anywhere near either of those guys, esp. based on his preseason performance so far. You wanna take a mulligan on that?

YES.. it was a dirty hit.. NOT A SACK.. correct your damn article.

It could have happened with an ALL PRO offensive line in front of JC.. he waited till the last minute to find Cooley.

You SUCK!

Sheesh Sween,

*La Canfora is Italian. It means "The Canfora."

That doesn't say much? Now does it?
We'll do a quick swipe through google.it and ...

hmmm nothing up my sleeve AND OH its a plant
AND

HEY it facilitates the expulsion of gas from the intestines,

its astringent, anti-secretion, interferes with the absorption
of iron and other minerals.

In chemistricals err chemistry its also a ketone.

Redskinettes are todays CARDINALS of the EAST! And all of You who talked the same shi* last yr will hav your dic** in your mouth again!! (we dont hav to score in preseason)Potty portis whining about injury!when he pulls his HAMMY this year because hes not up to game speed all you bitc** will whine like him!

so glad school starts monday. all these extremeskins kids will leave this blog to the adults.

"John Abraham just got there last season (though he'll be injured and out for the season within a few weeks)."

Sorry didn't edit the article for specific content related to Blalock.

"I wouldn't think the trade value of Mark Brunell comes anywhere near either of those guys, esp. based on his preseason performance so far. You wanna take a mulligan on that?"

Brunell, 2nd round pick, maybe something else for Blalock.
INSTEAD OF KENDALL. But he is a rookie ...

But you know if you think about it ... well ya never know.
After all that wouldn't be a waste of draft picks. It would more effectively replace the departed Derrick Dockery and then some.
But I guess its a pipe dream.

"But you know if you think about it ... well ya never know.
After all that wouldn't be a waste of draft picks. It would more effectively replace the departed Derrick Dockery and then some.
But I guess its a pipe dream."

I can't help but remember how easily we got JIm Lachey.

canfora - camphor

camphor oil

"highly potent with an aroma that is both medicinal and refreshing"

Sounds about right.

Redskinettes are todays CARDINALS of the EAST! And all of You who talked the same shi* last yr will hav your dic** in your mouth again!! (we dont hav to score in preseason)Potty portis whining about injury!when he pulls his HAMMY this year because hes not up to game speed all you bitc** will whine like him!

Posted by: YO MAMA | August 24, 2007 05:15 PM

This is BOOFER, with less intelligence (if that's humanly possible).

Posted by: Old School = Old Fool | August 24, 2007 04:16 PM

don't want to ruin my rep, but that was me on the previous thread ....i don't want anyone to think i don't value the draft or truley think the way we operate is neccessarily the way to go.... what i mean is if the foundation isn't there QB/coach you are going nowhere but a series of false hopes like we have over the past 15 yrs or so .....the majority of the teams are in that same boat, kidding themselves with the recycled QB and coaches they roll out or the 1st round QB bust they draft.... i just sense us having a better chance than we have had in long long time to move in the right direction.... and as it moves along i see us getting younger, signing more of our own, and still making some FA moves and trades, in other words all means neccessary to get good players to surround a good foundation...hope that clears it up and restores some faith in what i deliver

Kendall is already better then DOC and not one snap? ONLY in KOOLAID LAND!

periculum,

Pipe dream? Man, it's only a pipe dream if you've got an illegal substance burning in the bowl.

It's not a dream but a fantasy. It's about as likely as Lindsey Czarniak showing up at my house saying she's been looking for me all week, etc.

"canfora - camphor
camphor oil
"highly potent with an aroma that is both medicinal and refreshing"
Sounds about right."

AND don't forget ... according to the Italians
it facilitates the expulsion of gas from the intestines,

"It's not a dream but a fantasy. It's about as likely as Lindsey Czarniak showing up at my house saying she's been looking for me all week, etc."

Kind of like Jay Schroeder for the very best all-pro left tackle in the NFL : Jim Lachey. Al Davis we used to love ya baby!

I'd take Lachey over Blalock and Kendall together.

Hurry i need a drink of that koolaid to they SUCK!

great work by the RI research department ... my own intergoogling reveals that camphor is an insect repellant and one of the two active ingredients (other than menthol) in Vick's Vapo-Rub. There's comedy in there somewhere.

5:27pm obviously wasn't me ... plus I prefer Countrytime, coffee and/or Johnny Black ... but I have to admit the signature looks uncanny.

From the espn "Hashmarks" blog:

Ihamos writes, "I was thinking that the Redskins had one of the best sets of defensive backs in the league and a solid set of linebackers. They have great receivers and awesome running backs (if Portis can stay on the field). With the addition of Kendall from the Jets to bolster the offensive line and a defensive line that is looking more aggressive than it's been in a while, is it possible that these Redskins are a playoff team?"

Ihamos, I must admit to being a lot more intrigued with the Redskins than I was before training camp. A lot of this will hinge on the development of Jason Campbell at quarterback, but I agree that the defense finally appears to be making progress. A big part of the problem last year was the Redskins' inability to generate anything resembling a pass-rush.

I think that will change this season. And yes, with the addition of rookie LaRon Landry, I think the Redskins may end up with the best safety tandem in the league. The people I've talked to said that Sean Taylor was an absolute beast during training camp.

Landry has looked pretty raw at times, but it's obvious he has the ability to make huge plays. I'm not ready to call the Redskins a playoff team, but I definitely have my eye on them.

http://myespn.go.com/profile/hashmarks

maybe lachey for priest holmes, percolatum?

"maybe lachey for priest holmes, percolatum?"

No way baby even before the injury at the height of his career. I ain't no Al Davis. Of course old Al did learn from his mistakes which I guess is why they have Robert Gallery.

Here's the particulars:

Canfora

cinnamono, hon-sho

Informazioni di base

Nome botanico (genere e specie):
Cinnamonum camphora

Parti utilizzate per scopi medicinali:
Foglie
Radici

__________________________________________________
Effetti dimostrati:

Facilita l'espulsione dei gas dall'apparato intestinale.
___________________________________________________

muga, thanks for the link to hashmarks, which reminds me, I gotta do some laundry b/c I'm running out of underwear.

jim lachey was a great one, periscope. too bad the shoulder injury ended his career early.

"muga, thanks for the link to hashmarks, which reminds me, I gotta do some laundry b/c I'm running out of underwear."

Too much Canfora ... gotta watch those skid marks Sween ...

OKAY, now you know you set yourself up for that one!

maybe lachey for priest holmes, percolatum?

Ohh Peri, your Priest Holmes Fever-Dream just gets funnier every day.

"Ohh Peri, your Priest Holmes Fever-Dream just gets funnier every day."

Yeah almost as funny as 38 year old Collins for Campbell if he goes down. Beasley for Sellers if he goes down. Bradford and Pinkston for Moss if he goes down.

Kind of puts things in perspective doesn't it?

Its late on Friday afternoon, what are the top three/four things YOU are looking for this game?

"Look around 3:20 on the clip. It was definitely Heyer who let Kesiel through.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PfAu6oHL5QU

Posted by: The Evidence | August 24, 2007 04:52 PM "

This assumes that Heyer's assignment was to block Keisel one-on-one. The way it looks to me, he was supposed to steer the DE towards Pucillo...who didn't pick up Keisel from Heyer.

But hey: what do I (or Redskins coaches who actually know football) know? I'm sure it's just a conspiracy to protect their sensitive rookie, and instead smear their veteran guard and a local reporter. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

/sarcasm off

is perineum the same person as "peri wrinkle your nose it smells?

"What are the top three/four things YOU are looking for this game?"

1. Brunell, does he get traded or do they cut him.
If he puts on a good performance he may be starting for Atlanta
the following week.

2. Collins does he look like a number 2 against the vaunted
Ravens defense?

3. Better play from the O-line. They know they are under the
microscope and cuts are on Tuesday. More of a running game
perhaps?

4. Will Randall Godfrey see action?

5. Last but not least does Palmer see action? How does our
worst case scenario look at this snap shot in time.

What is a perineum?

Sounds like a flower...

in stoopid speak, think "taint"

I'm looking for:
1. A running game btwn the tackles, including Pucillo and Heyer redeeming themselves before returning to their depth spots. At least three inside rushing plays for more than 3.5 yards.
2. Heyer showing Terrell Suggs what a man of his size can do.
3. No demolition of Todd Collins (who is, according to all outward appearances, looking like #2 QB).
4. Somebody new (replacing Espy in the return game) to show up with at least a 20 yard return, either P or K return.

"This assumes that Heyer's assignment was to block Keisel one-on-one. The way it looks to me, he was supposed to steer the DE towards Pucillo...who didn't pick up Keisel from Heyer."

I think this is why Pete Kendall now wears a Redskins uniform. And Pucillo is now a backup again like Heyer.

Sheesh, forgot about defense ... how about ONE sack and ONE pick!

"in stoopid speak, think "taint""

You mean like "taint" your bald spot stoopid?

perineum? SJK! That's like south of baddabing and north of baddaboom.

I'm looking for any offensive bright spots against Baltimore's D.

The final score may look like a hockey score.

Yo - Hook us up with some JC Truth news. How´s the knee? 10-6 season is reasonable? Also, who scores on the Giants? We got them coming up in week 3 and I´m loving the Tiki-free lineup. Just hope we got the size at DB to stop the tall Gint receivers. Heard any other juicy NFC East rumors. I know that McNabbus is looking good in Philly. What about Captain Slippery Hands in Dallas? Any ideas what to expect from them?

somethin like that, garlique man.

taint your (front parts) and taint (your back part)

perineum: area between back and the front on a female....

"The perineum also known as taint, grundle, or gooch is generally defined as the surface region in both males and females between the pubic symphysis and the coccyx.
It is a diamond-shaped area on the inferior surface of the trunk which includes the anus and, in females, the vagina[1]. Its definition varies: it can refer to only the superficial structures in this region, or it can be used to include both superficial and deep structures."

Mine is big and bad especially after Canfora.

dudes, this is a co-ed blog. please show a little dignity.

I'd like to see a wideout, not named Moss, make a few plays.

I'd like to see a few of the backups show that they have potential to play with the big boys.

I'd like to see some of the older guys like Pinkston show that they can still play the game.

I'd like to see Dan Snyder in a Hawaiian shirt, plaid Bermuda shorts, and orange Crocs with white socks.

personal foul. flag from zebra forthcoming

Vick suspended indefinitely, without pay, by the NFL. Now there's a surprise.

I have been wired a report from Nate in PDX. Seems he is deep in the jungles of Borneo chewing on psychedelic tree roots and hunting wild hog with blow darts.

He assures me that he has stayed connected to the blog via a mental uplink chip he had installed in his cerebellum and is dismayed by all the goings on....the wire read:

can't these......hamsters....get....along without me.....already

He imparted too me this wisdom that he hoped I would pass along to RI nation......:

PANTIES

I hope that Brunell plays lights out and Atlanta then calls us and offers a 4-6th round pick. I would think if Collins does well, it would make sense. He won't be on the roster next year.

One thing not mentioned often is that if JC and TC go down and Palmer isn't ready, we do have a college QB on the roster who plays WR (ARE). Might not be ideal but could he be worse than a 50 year old Vinny Testeverde? Seriously?

I don't think Brunell will get traded. It's too hard for a QB to pick up a new system in only two weeks. I think the Falcons will go into the season with what they've got.

They're destined for a top 5 pick next year as it is. Coach Petrino has his work cut out for him this year, and a QB on the back 9 of his career isn't going to help them get any better. I think it would be a dumb move for the Falcons.

Besides, nothing about Arthur Blank screams impetuous or prone to rash behavior. He seems like a very measured, very steady individual, and trading for Brunell on the eve of the season would be a very rash move.

Jordan Palmer is destined to be cut or assigned to the practice squad. Brunell will be #2 behind Campbell, and Collins will be #3. Frankly, Brunell is a very capable backup in the NFL at this stage. If JC goes down for any significant length of time, the season is over anyway. We all know it. There are very few teams in the NFL that can keep winning even after their #1 QB goes down.

Jason,

I'm not going to rip you for your reporting in the recent blogs regarding the left side of the line. I will say that the LT position is one of the hardest to stock talent for. Most teams take a serious drop in talent after their first stringer, and many don't have a quality LT to begin with. It is simply one of the thinnest positions there is. My point is, with Samuels out, their only options were Wade (who is really a RT) and Heyer, since Fabini has been lousy in camp - and Wade was already set to try out at guard.

I think the Redskins make some mistakes, but not so many more or less than most other teams. We tend to pull out the microscope on the bad moves, AND hold on to those moves for years, while glossing over the good ones. Though their drafts have been thin over the last few years - certainly not a good thing - they've come out with some pretty good players, with Landry, Cooley, McIntosh, Taylor, Campbell(remember the beating they got for Campbell?) and Rogers high picks that are starting, and needed. Of them all, Rogers is the weakest pick at the moment, but take a look at the top ten picks from the last four years and you'll see as many busts as there have been successes.

Of course the Redskins are thin at some spots - everyone in the league is thin somewhere. This idea that this team could be deep and have talent EVERYWHERE is a little silly. ALL teams have holes to cover, and ALL teams have to roll the dice and hope not to get injuries in one particular spot or another, including the Colts, Chargers, Bears, Pats, etc. That's free agency, and anyone who is telling you otherwise must be selling something (season tickets?).

All in all, the Redskins had a good offseason this year. They loaded up quality depth in their back 7, as opposed to panicking and signing anyone who ever played DL to a contract, and they didn't spend too much money doing it on the whole. They are under the cap, which almost EVERYONE panicked about a few years ago - they kept their staff intact too ensure some consistency for their new quarterback, (the same one we all were mystified about drafting a few years ago, but now about faint over when he takes a hit), they held their ground and didn't overpay for a "6" out of "10" guard, and ending up paying very little in comparison for a guard of equal skills (or better, depending on who you believe), and gave up a mid to late round pick to do it. By the way - does anybody remember where we drafted Dockery? A hint: it was higher than 5th or 4th round.

Things have gradually improved folks. The crazy binge spending has declined - though there are plenty of teams besides the Redskins that have been guilty of it - and the safer, lower priced players joining up have increased. Not much is heard from Snyder, which is as it should be, and the team thus far this preseason is playing with an intensity that is typically reserved for the regular season. Fletcher, McIntosh, Landry, and Carter have all looked good, Springs looks rejuvenated, Cooley is in top form, Moss looks as quick as ever, and most importantly Campbell has shown to this point he's got what it takes. Heck, even Lloyd had a TD.

So let's take a deep breath, stop with all the infighting, and see what happens. I think we may be pleasantly surprised this year, with the year after being a big one.

CL
Nate is doing good. He needed to take a break to take care of some things. I got an e mail from him the other day. Now stop eating the turnbuckle. lol

"I'd like to see Dan Snyder in a Hawaiian shirt, plaid Bermuda shorts, and orange Crocs with white socks."

HEY!!! I didn't say the Danny could have my wardrobe!

JM220 I got a similar email...just thought I would phrase it differently on the blog.....

CHris larry,

What? You don't want to trade with Dan Snyder? You're the only guy in town wouldn't want to be on the other side of a deal with Snyder.

He'd probably set you up with your own Johnny Rocket for a few threads. Wouldn't you like a new Johnny Rocket?

I am a Sonic man myself......but I can always be bought......

"dudes, this is a co-ed blog. please show a little dignity."

Oh, forgot myself ... S-J-K ...
spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does.

chris larry (if that IS your real name ... I see no cApS), also checked in with Nate. I know he reads, and it has to kill him ("Long time poster, first time lurker"). I also think what might have happened this week was the Second Blog Battle with ES, who were responding to St. Joe calling out Jasno, and interpreting as a call to attack. Though a few peeps also objected to JLaC's tone, most of the vitriol and bile was from new names. We just didn't recognize it without the Deputy. They have morphed and re-organized into cells; a headless organism that can attack when the call goes out. Seems to have died down now.

P Diddy calls it. As goes Jason Campbell, so goes the franchise. Plus, Petrino has to see a silver lining. He gets a bye in his first year as a coach AND he gets his boy Brian Brohm in the draft. I see the Falcons hanging onto all their picks, Brunell or no Brunell.

"I'd like to see a wideout, not named Moss, make a few plays."

Brandon Lloyd, Brandon Lloyd with his band of men.
Brandon Lloyd, Brandon Lloyd practicing his zen.
Fears to put on pads, Loves to show his 'nads.

Brandon Llody, Brandon Lloyd, Brandon Lloyd.

Sween,
Dear God, man! It's all so clear now!

I'm absolutely sure that Collins will look like #2.

"P Diddy calls it. As goes Jason Campbell, so goes the franchise. Plus, Petrino has to see a silver lining. He gets a bye in his first year as a coach AND he gets his boy Brian Brohm in the draft. I see the Falcons hanging onto all their picks, Brunell or no Brunell."

That might work in baseball ala the Washington Nationals ... DOH it looks like they might make a run at .500 with mostly rookie starting pitching and a very young supporting cast? Whod a thunk it?

They sell tickets to games in Atlanta. And people are going to start asking for their money back. I don't think they can afford to call it a season and build for next year. I think they are going to have to do the best they can with what they have. Brunell knows the system having been coached by both Musgrave and Petrino. He would be great for the rookie QB they bring in next year as well.

But you are probably right.

Sween,
Do we have any moles that can help us prepare for a second onslaught?

Should we raise the ITA shields?

Brunell was coached by Petrino? I looked that up on Wikipedia before I posted, but I couldn't see where Petrino ever coached either at University of Washington or Jacksonville...

Ah, I'm an idiot. CL is correct. Petrino coached in JAX from 1999-2001.

And it was Periculum that was correct, not CL. Though I'm sure CL was correct about something at some point today.

I'm going back to my nap now...wake me up when the season gets started.

Is the headless organism finally gone? WTF!?

Is Nate OK?

Petrino coached for a year or two at Jacksonville while Brunell was there. He was either the QB coach or the O. coordinator.

"I'm an idiot. CL is correct. Petrino coached in JAX from 1999-2001."

CL I thought that was me not Chris Larry

porca canfora! LOL ( our new expletive deleted! )

I'd like to see Art Monk get in to the HOF where he belongs.

Atlanta's GM (Rich McKay?) has to be working something major -- maybe even a three way -- to get Kelly Holcomb who, by virtue of being competent and completely redundant -- gives Philly the golden ticket to Wonka's factory. Philly's holding out b/c they know they have Atlanta's answer. Like players who want to become Skins, Philly "just wants to get paid." Skins lucked out in the right time/right place department with Pete Kendall. Philly is going to luck out even bigger off Atlanta's misfortune. They have the keys to fixing their biggest weakness (whatever that is); its just a matter of time.

"Is the headless organism finally gone? WTF!?"

Just got a penile implant, it better be!!!

He's sitting in the corner rocking and whispering to himself...

..."panties."

But I'm sure he'll be okay.

"I'd like to see Art Monk get in to the HOF where he belongs."

I'd like to see NFL MVP, the Redskin who carried the team to its first super bowl, Larry Brown get in to the HOF. But I don't think I'm going to see it.

Believe me Monk pales by comparison as good as he was. Let it go.

Petrino arrived at University of Louisville for the first time in 1998 as offensive coordinator, following Smith. In his one season there, the Cardinals were top-ranked in Division I-A in scoring and total offense and posted the biggest positive turnaround among I-A football teams, winning six more games than in the 1997 season. He then moved to the NFL, spending two seasons as the quarterbacks coach and a third as offensive coordinator with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

A skimming of the posts today seems to show that the Question of the Day by the fanatic Redskins' Right is some variation of "why does the Redskins' front office get slammed more than -insert list of top teams here, e.g the Patriots- when it seems like the success/failure rate of trades/draft picks is the same?"

Leaving aside the absurd stipulation with no back up facts provided that the Skins do indeed have the same success rate on personnel decisions...

The very basic reason that the Redskins Front office gets slammed more than other teams is because they have consistently & doggedly stuck to the same formula and during that time they have never consistently won. A winning year is followed by the same approach which leads to the end of the winning ways. The Patriots are not slammed on indivual possibly suspect moves because they win every year. Owner Dan Snyder has yet to prove his methodology works, and Joe Gibbs, while brilliant at coaching, has yet to prove he can be his own personnel man, especially in the salary cap era.

A secondary reason is that if Dan Snyder is going to run the most profitable franchise in the NFL -- and, for the record, he has every right to make money and charge what the market will bear -- than he should be held accountable for the product that he is producing. He is held to a higher standard because his methods have not produced a winner -- and winning is the ONLY objective measurement of success for sports -- but he refuses to change while still raising prices. Had his management methods produced multiple Super Bowls -- or even consistent winning seasons -- than we'd not be having this discussion.

4-12, Nate is definitely OK, but has a baby on the way and they never really unpacked after the move. Plus the guy does have a job and, as we've all figured out by now, you can only fake it for so long while you're posting here.

Stumped, the ITA shields got stuck b/c peeps were distracted by the Jack/Redcoat/hail to 'em fracas, which was unrelated to St. Joe's activation order. Again, the Deputy would have caught that.

Sween,

You're right Atlanta has to do something. And perhaps Holcomb is a better answer. I just kind of suspect that Atlanta will go with Brunell because he's familiar and knows the system and he will come a lot cheaper.

Well said, and well written, HaikuMan.

Now, rephrase in the form of a Haiku.

:-)

Nate in the PDX hasn't been seen since that Victoria's Secret "panties sale" link was posted up here.

sween- Thanks for the update.

I'm sure you meant to say the:

Jack/Redcoat/hail to 'em shabingus.

I guess it was a Finfish sandwich.

Who is this Essayist and what have you done with HaikuMan?

I'm with you most on the second point ... The Owner has NO economic incentive to develop a football organization that actually win games b/c it doesn't matter how much they lose, the faithful are that faithful -- the prices keep going up, the demand only increases, and the actual on-field results don't change. The model is about revenue generation, not winning football. [Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it structural ambivalence churns the loyal fanbase to distraction.]

For P Diddy:

Show them the money
Must produce winning seasonS.
Respect must be earned.

4-12 Nate is doing good. Received an e mail from him the other day.

He shows the money
Respect? No winning seasons.
But profit is earned.

"The Owner has NO economic incentive to develop a football organization that actually win games b/c it doesn't matter how much they lose, the faithful are that faithful -- the prices keep going up, the demand only increases, and the actual on-field results don't change. "

It never was about economic incentive. If it was Bidwell, Modell, and Davis would have been drummed out decades ago. Its about
competitive pride. I think Snyder has it. I think he wants to win
very, very badly.

He just doesn't want to lose control of the club as he did with Marty. Kind of like going through a really traumatic situation where he inherits Norv, then does the unthinkable and fires him when he still has a chance to recover a winning season and get into the playoffs. Because of that blunder he ends up with Marty ball and has to cede all control of the franchise to him.

He thinks he can learn enough to run the personnel side of the equation like Jerry Jones and Al Davis. He believes he is smarter than those guys. Like some of the "over-the-hill" acquisitions we have observed recently he has a mentor to help him learn. That mentor is now Joe Gibbs. He has Vinnie Cerrato, a close friend, to help him with the intracasies of the player development.

He does appear to be getting better after making quite a splash and a name for himself. The rather quiet off season would seem to indicate that. The Redskins current moves would seem to far more calculated and less fraught with risk and peril than in the past.

Thanks jm.

Off to the weekend. Here's to no injuries tomorrow night. Hail!

Everyone makes a big deal about Vick killing dogs, but the Feds who seized his property are now going to kill the 59 dogs they found on his property - now isn't that ironic.

I too don't think ATL will trade. And I think even less that Gibbs would sign off on it, but I think that it would make sense for the team to do it. I don't think they will. I give the FO kudos for most of the moves this offseason given the hand they had to play (though they put themselves in a hole with previous stupid moves). Proof's in the pudding as we shall shortly see.

You guys are right. If JC goes down, it's probably gonna be a long year whether it's MB or TC in there. That's why it's OK to get rid of MB and try to get something. There's no way he's on the roster next year.

And as I said before we would still have ARE in an emergency for QB.... N'est-ce pas?

Nate in the PDX hasn't been seen since that Victoria's Secret "panties sale" link was posted up here.

Posted by: S. Cribe | August 24, 2007 06:41 PM

LMGO

"It never was about economic incentive. ..."

Posted by: periculum | August 24, 2007 06:53 PM

peri, just as you were really making progress. Now this.

Remember Post Game Heroes?

They're at it again...

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=257

Well said, Periculum. I've never doubted Dan Snyder's desire to will -- ad who wants an owner unwilling to spend money at all? I also agree that the Skins have had a good off-season. I just would rather crown Dan as a great owner AFTER (and, honestly, IF) he can change by either figuring it out or giving up some control to a GM and WINS consistently. 5-11 last year, folks. That is regressing, not progressing and, therefore, he has to be able to take the hits. If they go 8-8 this year, better next and make the playoffs, and begin to show themselves as a solid contender for a long stretch than one year.....then King Snyder it is.....

'Everyone makes a big deal about Vick killing dogs, but the Feds who seized his property are now going to kill the 59 dogs they found on his property - now isn't that ironic.

Posted by: Ron Mexico | August 24, 2007 06:55 PM '

At least the feds will kill them in a 'humane' way... not having their throats torn out by other dogs.

"... I just would rather crown Dan as a great owner AFTER (and, honestly, IF) he can change by either figuring it out or giving up some control to a GM and WINS consistently. ...."
- HaikuMan

peri, sorry for the cheap shot. THIS point is it ... The Owner has NOT (since taking over) figured it out and, unless St. Joe is teaching him how, it HAS to be a GM, and a GM with a longer term vision. It might just be that St. Joe is currently serving that role himself, but the way he talks, he still sounds like he's working within some defined parameters (that do not include a longer term vision).

D they seem to be learning this year. My hope is we see the same thing from them next off season. But I will worry about that after this year playoff run.

It is a big deal what Vick et al did to those dogs. Drowning, shooting, choking, beating, etc. A much bigger deal than having to humanely euthanize the remaining bred for fighting, misused/abused PIT BULLS.

Howard Bryant's latest Vick article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=2990177

No Problema Sween,

"peri, sorry for the cheap shot. THIS point is it ... The Owner has NOT (since taking over) figured it out and, unless St. Joe is teaching him how, it HAS to be a GM, and a GM with a longer term vision. It might just be that St. Joe is currently serving that role himself, but the way he talks, he still sounds like he's working within some defined parameters (that do not include a longer term vision)."

IMHO, Unfortunately, "St. Joe" does not believe he is qualified nor capable of being THE personnel guy for the team. Think about it Sween, Jason, the rest of you ... if GIBBS TRULY WANTED THAT wouldn't he have taken the same stance and approach that Marty Schottenheimer the ultimate ego-maniac did? He is the one that "made Vinne go away" now didn't he?

I sincerely doubt, and would very, very surprised to hear that Gibbs would be against a GM arrangement. In fact I believe he would welcome it. He is team president, he is not GM. He is head coach. He is mentoring Snyder in what he knows and can impart. But as they lose and the finger pointing starts I am certain "St. Joe" takes his share of hits. And as president and head coach it is his job to act as buffer for everyone under him. That Joe Gibbs does eminently well. Too well for some folks taste.

Remember he is protecting the troops not just against journalists and the news reading public but he also acts as buffer in front of a very emotional and reactive owner.

So, in the end Snyder himself is the personnel department in charge of acquiring talent for Gibbs to coach. You can tell by
the blunders that were first made when Gibbs arrived. And those made under Spurrier. This year things have markedly improved. That means Gibbs is finally making inroads there.
Snyder is learning to be patient. BUT only so patient.

He now I think understands that the team will only be as good as its draft picks. The better those are the better the team will be long into the future. He now knows that he can't completely correct that through free agency. The fewer mistakes made in the draft the less you have to go to free agency and take the risk of paying someone exorbitant sums for underperforming. I think he sees that now having been burned enough to finally pull those hands out of the flames.

BUT I still believe that Gibbs as president is key to that. If he goes then I believe Snyder will not find someone who cares about the Franchise the way he does, the way Gibbs does. Instead he will find someone who will be less patient with his desire to keep his hand in the mix as far as decision making is concerned. Gibbs is very patient with him. VERY PATIENT.

Everyone makes a big deal about Vick killing dogs, but the Feds who seized his property are now going to kill the 59 dogs they found on his property - now isn't that ironic.

Posted by: Ron Mexico | August 24, 2007 06:55 PM

The government isn't going to electrocute, body slam or shoot any of the dogs. The government is going humanely euthanize the dogs. The dogs have to be euthanized because they cannot be adopted as pets because of their dispostions - dispositions that were created by Vick and his cohorts through training. So in effect, Vick and his pals killed those dogs as well.

Sorry for repeating points previously made.

There are two links up here now that clearly show that Heyer was responsible for letting Soup get hurt. Proves two things.

1. Joe Gibbs is a liar who will say whatever he can to protect a player from getting blamed.

2. Jasno has been right all along so lay off of him.

You can say that again!

Well put!

I'm thirsty!

Where is that kid from the PDX?

Edible underwear!

Are you high?

New England's receiving game is for real. As it turns out, in their very very short time on the field, so is their D.

dcsween did you see that hit on Steve Smith? Damn that's how you bring the heat.

Deshaun Foster-DeAngelo Williams-Steve Smith. Still, old man Harrison lays lumber.

Wilfork kind of powerful on that punt block, as in locomotive acceleration.

Morris - Maroney - Welker - Stallworth (and Randy Moss isn't even playing).

MAN! Portis-Betts- as the opening syllables HAS to happen; possibilities from there are endless.

Dierdorf is in mid-season form. Mid-season 1985.

Whose idea was it to cut the field into diamonds? Freakin' me out man.

Hey, what's the Jets' side of the story on putting Kendall in the rookie dorms?

Their is an awful lot of sucking goin on in the RI.......Now you get it, my s#*t is pretty clever

Maske has to be busting hump on this Vick thing. That explains what happened to CynCyty too.

F Vick. I read the WaPo for 'Skins coverage. I don't read the Journal/Constitution.

Shessh now we get Kid Trolls.

I think CynCyty is taking some time off. Pre labor day folks are still trying to get out of dodge.

This broadcast team on the Patriots game has to be the lamest on TV. The game is much better with no sound.

Almost all football games are better off without sound these days. I'm looking forward to Jaworski's analysis, but most of the rest really stink.

seriously LH. you can stop now. only crime vick commited in my mind is being stupid.

the more i hear/read about vick the more angry i get about the hypocracy that is the iraq war where innocent blood is being spilled everyday and what's happening in NoLa.

deer=animal
dog=animal
death (not)=life

KtKe, Tom Waits is calling this game in the Manor this evening.

diddy, have you seen strawberry shortcake with her hair pulled back?

mmmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm even better! beautiful ears!

French ex-Redskin makes good! Gardent's on special teams for Carolina.

I suppose half the posters think we should have gotten a third round pick for him.

Mmmmm, Strawberry Shortcake...

Sweet pass by Delhomme.

Picking myself up off the floor. Damn I can't believe I agree with littery. It is really sad that people put more value on a dog life. I was talking with the guy at the Cafe at my job. (his fathter is the owner) It totally shocked me when he said that a dog life is more important to him. At that point I totally lost respect for him. But in America a lot of people feel that way I guess.

JLC,

I can understand you not caring for the Redskins because Dan Snyder is a animal! However, I still love the the Skins and would really like it much better if the local writer for the Post was not always looking at our team with the glass half empty. I know they have made very bad decisions in the past and Danny Boy is a real a-whole... but come on give them a chance we have not lost any games this year, at least not yet!!! Go skins!!! Hail to the redskins!

Carolina's got problems. I wouldn't trade the 'Skins problems for Carolina's.

From ESPN Hashmarks:

"I was thinking that the Redskins had one of the best sets of defensive backs in the league and a solid set of linebackers. They have great receivers and awesome running backs (if Portis can stay on the field). With the addition of Kendall from the Jets to bolster the offensive line and a defensive line that is looking more aggressive than it's been in a while, is it possible that these Redskins are a playoff team?"

MM: Ihamos, I must admit to being a lot more intrigued with the Redskins than I was before training camp. A lot of this will hinge on the development of Jason Campbell at quarterback, but I agree that the defense finally appears to be making progress. A big part of the problem last year was the Redskins' inability to generate anything resembling a pass-rush.

I think that will change this season. And yes, with the addition of rookie LaRon Landry, I think the Redskins may end up with the best safety tandem in the league. The people I've talked to said that Sean Taylor was an absolute beast during training camp.

Landry has looked pretty raw at times, but it's obvious he has the ability to make huge plays. I'm not ready to call the Redskins a playoff team, but I definitely have my eye on them.

Sleeper Pick in Fantasy Football...Jason Campbell.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=2990082&catname=NFL

^

littery I will stop when you stop your stream of conscious mumbo jumbo. Deal?

LH...

So now Vick is a snitch (Bryant's recent column).

Does Vick have to go in protective custody after giving up all of his dog-fighting buddies?

jm220,

I'm not sure it's about the dogs were treated so much. That's the politics that made Vick a target. Its running an illegal gambling operation across state lines. C'mon even an idiot like Vick must have heard about Pete Rose. The guy was asking for trouble. But he thought trouble wouldn't find him because he's Mike Vick, Ron Mexico. Wrong.

Arthur Blank was the wrong guy to leave twisting in the wind. And that's what Vick did. Not to mention the coaches and his teammates. Why do you think Gibbs but mostly Petitbone benched and released Dexter Manley after he turned up dirty on the drug screening? Because he got suspended for that when the team needed him. He left them twisting in the wind.

I don't know why imbeciles like Portis defend the guy. If he was his teammate and got suspended when he, Portis, was depending on him. How do you think he would feel? Now that team has to do the equivalent of NFL "dumpster diving" to find a quarterback. That really sucks and Vick is not worth defending. 47 million is plenty of money for anyone he didn't need to be gambling and dog fighting.

Nice article about Sonny and Sam. Sonny has his own offense and system. LOL Think about it. There's a guy who after serious shoulder injuries and an achilles tendon won the NFL passing crown in 1974 at the age of 40. Throwing side arm with his mobility curtailed. Can Brunell do that?

jm220, I don't put dogs (or any other anmials) lives ahead of human lives. This Vick thing, to me, is simply a matter of breaking the law and paying for it. I don't think the man should hang. All I ever said was that investigation was not going to end without him taking a hit.

And littery, people like you always try to mix issues. The fact that people are upset about Vick does not mean that they are not interested in other issues. People displayed their opposition to the war by voting people out of office. People have also demonstrated and continue to demonstrate their displeasure with the situation in NOLA. Your problem is with the media which focuses attention on sideshows like the Vick case and other nonsense instead the issues you deem more important.

is that all u can talk about is vick and dog fighting. Who cares

The hypocrisy of Iraq? Someone had to defend Israel against an invasion by Iraq or Iran. Its all about the scuds and controlling the majority of the oil supply outside of Russia.

Yeah well Bush listened to the wrong people and now there we are. While most all of the Iraqis who supported the US are leaving the country and immigrating to places like Sweden. Thanks to the Iran-o-philes who stoked Bush Iran will likely take over the place in the next few years after we leave. Then if we want oil we'll have to get over it and talk to them anyway. And Persians can be hard bargainers even when they actually like you.

peri wrinkle your nose it smells maybe I am not being clear.

I AM NOT DEFENDING VICK! What I have a problem with is people all up in arms over dogs that are being killed and mistreat and not human beings. (NOT THAT I AGREE WITH KILLING DOGS) Go to New Orleans and see first hand for yourself what I seen and heard from the people there. Read how we are losing about 2 soldiers a day. It's not about Vick to me as it is about human suffering. Now I will get off my soap box.

the more i hear/read about vick the more angry i get about the hypocracy that is the iraq war where innocent blood is being spilled everyday and what's happening in NoLa.

deer=animal
dog=animal
death (not)=life

Posted by: littery | August 24, 2007 09:43 PM

So are you saying if we just let Vick sadistically kill dogs, the war in Iraq will end and the people in NOLA will be fine?

There is no logic here. These are independent events. Just watch the fn game.

SMACK is a philosopher; I've never seen that in a Cowgirls fan before. SMACK has too much education to follow the Cowgirls.

LH we agree that he should pay a price. I guess I wasn't being clear about that.

did somebody eat rotten shell fish? this blog stinks

FiRsT!!!!!!!!!!!

eri, sorry for the cheap shot. THIS point is it ... The Owner has NOT (since taking over) figured it out and, unless St. Joe is teaching him how, it HAS to be a GM, and a GM with a longer term vision.

Yes we all agree that would be best. BUT it took Matt Millen an
awfully long time and a great many mistakes to get it right in Detroit. And that guy really does know how and what it takes to win. He is the living, breathing epitomy of what it takes. Yet even he had problems ... ala Michael Jordan?

So, I think it is possible for Snyder to learn to do this. IF he puts his ego aside. And stops listening to his cadre of very close friends inside his circle like Vinnie. He needs objective opinions from outside. AND I ADMIRE JASON for trying to do that! On his own! I just want to make sure Jason dots all the i's and crosses all the t's so that the arguments or differing opinions he presents are hard to quash as "completely false".

And that is Snyder's problem. He's like Bush he listens only to those people inside his circle. Now look what happened to both of them?

"It might just be that St. Joe is currently serving that role himself, but the way he talks, he still sounds like he's working within some defined parameters (that do not include a longer term vision)."

AS I said I would really be surprised to hear Gibbs admit to that. I have never once heard him say that. He isn't a dolt like Marty. He knows his limitations. That's one reason why he's been so successful in 2 major sports. I believe that Gibbs and his cadre of highly experienced coaches offer that outside, objective viewpoint. The problem I see is that Snyder and company really didn't listen. They paid lip service to it but that is all. But this year I think was different. Gibbs I believe had more control over what deals the owner would or would not make for the team.

Look at players Gibbs went after: Brunell, Campbell ... look at the players he raves endlessly about like Thrash. These are character players. Can anyone really believe that JJ Gibbs, who thinks Thrash walks on water, went after Jason Campbell would go to Snyder and ask him to get a Brandon Lloyd. Sorry but I think anyone who believes that has been smoking magic mushrooms.

That's because SMACK is really a Skins fan. Come back to the light SMACK and leave the dark side alone. LMGO

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2004/passingfancy.htm

You all are too funny!

Posted by: pathetic | August 24, 2007 10:14 PM

Congratulations. The first step in overcoming a problem is being able to admit you have one.

Hey all you Redskins fans! If you want to see how a team is correctly run, and how a team correctly rebuilds, attend a few Caps games this year.

Man, the 4th quarter of this Carolina/NE game is riveting.

smack, thank you. i had no idea. and i'm not watching the game. i wish i was. but i am not.

lh, thank you for the enlightenment.

yes, i deleted the damn post that i written in response to this.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm no point in tuning to the game now right?

The Panthers cheerleaders look fabulous tonight. Reason enough to watch, if you ask me...

Where is Nate? We could use some thong and panties posts up here. Way too much BS goin' on.

how did tom brady do?

I just tuned in late, but it's 24-7 NE, so he must have done okay, unless they've been piling on late.

Thank you, Diddy. That's what I'm talkin' bout.

when the blog needed him the most, Barney was nowhere to be found. Deputy Fife let the blog down, shame on you Barney.

Tom Brady had two touchdowns and two babies tonight.

Pulldownclaw check earlier post for Nate update

Was that during halftime? Diddy did say the cheerleaders were lookin' good....

Yeah, and it was a Cardinals' cheerleader. That guy gets around.

screw this, where the hoes at?

thanks smack.

If you aren't watching Washington Post Live you need to. Easily the best local sports show on television.

And you can watch it online:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/03/19/VI2007031900886.html

Great stuff.

http://midatlantic.comcastsportsnet.com/shows-WPL.asp

Thanks, jm. Still, seems like he's taking a break. I don't blame him, the BAMA patrol's been up here the last few days.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Nate was posting as someone else to see what the reaction would be? Would he get the same respect posting as some random? Maybe he is posting as Jack's kids...just a thought...

Interesting. Has anyone done any sociology studies on blogs yet?

Oh yeah, and I hope that the Skins score more points than the other teams this year.

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Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 24, 2007 06:09 AM

another sociological experiment:
why is JM220 always online and not out having fun, meeting girls etc? besides going to NOLA to volunteer and hiding his blogging from his boss seems like a lame lifestyle

For the last time, can you all please stop using the word "Bama" in an offensive way?

speaking of being home every weekend night...here's Lisa

"Bama"

Can you send me to the corner now? LMGO

What are you doing home tonight anon? Tired of having fun all the time?

another sociological experiment:
why is JM220 always online and not out having fun, meeting girls etc? besides going to NOLA to volunteer and hiding his blogging from his boss seems like a lame lifestyle

Posted by: | August 24, 2007 11:21 PM

Since you are here making statements about me. I guess that makes you even lammer than me.

Anyone checked out the pathetic Ravens' Blog at The Sun: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/

RI kicks ass.

Am I allowed to say I'm "siced" about this season?

CM
That is lame but must be written by a homer - I want to see this... I want to see that happen...Maybe JLA wrote it...HA JK

PDC
Yes you can

They call Alabama the Crimson Tide!

seriously jm
do you ever leave this blog?

ITA

Anonymous, if you are asking JM if he ever leavess the blog, you would have to be on here all the time as well...right??? At least JM posts his name.

And as for me blogging at 11:30 at night...for all the hell you know I could have just got home. Not that it's any of your business.

WOW! bill mahr is discussing vick ... and he has michel martin, wife of vick's attorney...

smack, watch it. whatever michel martin is saying is MONEY!

smack, just watch it! even the white republican is on my side.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE???!! :)

dammit littery I forgot it was on tonight. Too much excitement here I guess. Crap!