FIRST

SECOND

Not a hammie!

Damn you!

pre season...we talkin' bout pre season??

Khary could go IR or it could burst his bubble.

Good news people! I've just come back from the doctors. He said that I'm don't have the dreaded Equine Flu which is ravaging the country at the moment.

Luckily for me, the flu only effects horses. Not those who are hung like horses!

go cooleyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

3strdteenth!!!!!

Leave CP alone biased dumb-dalkian!

peeps! you guys better have a play by play up here. i'm paying .25 cents/minute for this connection.

btw, i got the biggest sinus headache and spent an hour in the airplane's bathroom that wouldn't flush. and it wasn't mine. and i had to smell it!!! EWEEEEEEEEEE! yucky!

any ideas how i can prevent this in the future (sinus pressure cuz of altitude in the plane)?

Don't be duped - Portis will get 85% of the carries from the get-go.

Love how Buges just said on CSN that they aren't worried about the running game -- whoops, guess he didn't get the memo from Joe Jackson that they are supposed to say that they are very concerned about it.

Can't wait for Week 1.

Out.

Shoot I'd keep LaRon on the bench too.

Let's face it he's first string and has earned his spot (sorry PP).

put eye drops in your nose

jasno, you must provide a live link to your claims next time. :)

Cyn Cyty please make when CP blow up you have JLC write that he was wrong. He will be fine.

any ideas how i can prevent this in the future (sinus pressure cuz of altitude in the plane)?

Ummm, don't fly? Not terribly convenient but eminently effective!

What time is kickoff?

How does spending an hour in an airplane bathroom help a sinus headache?

shoot! dang gone losable type!!!!!!!!!

what kind of eyedrops? saline?

littery,

I was wondering where you were. We're still waiting for the start.

I'm plugged into the xxx radio feed at:

http://www.triplexespnradio.com

The best I can do at the moment.

hey guys-

is this one being broadcast anywhere on the internet?

i've got the audio feed, but i wanted to see if there was video swirling around out there anywhere...

thanks!

the flight attendant thought it was a good idea to put me in a stinky bathroom and sit with my head between my knees...didn't work...instead felt like puking

MNF fires Theismann and now we have to listen to him?

Skins on d. Jags return kickoff to 16. David Garrard starting.

28th!!!!!!!!

the flight attendant thought it was a good idea to put me in a stinky bathroom and sit with my head between my knees...didn't work...instead felt like puking

Just cause a flight attendant leads you somewhere, doesn't mean you should follow her. Although usually it's the right move.

Litery,

I used to fly a lot. I solved the problem by holding my nose and trying to blow out. It equalized the pressure in the sinuses. It worked for me almost all the time. Good luck

Great penetration by number 94 on the run

joey t rulz....haters please....

toefield four-yard loss (can't turn corner); runs it again and gets it to the 15.

Toefield starting @ RB, rush for -4 to start

Have I got something wrong with my measuring of time zones? I thought the game was meant to start at 7:30 EST, isn't that like 15 minutes ago?

Hey what's up with Rocky Cartwright? I haven't seen him all preseason

2nd team sounds like they are doing a good job.

Skins at 30; jc on flanker screen to moss. up to the 34.

Okay, it's started :-D

That's in the same way that baseball games start at 7:00

pointless game..........

Not sure, but when you register for the audio feed at xxx, there is a pop up that trys to sell you TV software (presumably to see the game).

Kost,

My wife and I have two horses and two donkies. I told her your story with a straight face. She became very concerned and then could not stop laughing. Good Job!!!

Speaking of rock nice carry for 20+ yards up the middle

Rabach just blocked two dudes. Nice.

Sounds like JC is looking good. Cooley is doing well. OK pull them now.

Skins moving ball nicely. Good mix of passes and runs. Cartwright a coupla nice runs.

Sweet TD catch by Randle El. Time now for JC to come out.

Touchdown ARE!!!!!!!!

JC took a hit and complete to the back. Please oh please pull him now.

Check that: time for EVERYONE to come out.

Start drinking the Kool-Aid now folks!

Money!

WHAT! WHAT! In your face JLC!!!!!!! Now pull all the starters.

Soups looking money. Check.

Run game going. Check.

Kendall looks very good in a Hog uniform. Check.

Touchdown. Check.

Check, please!

can we call the game now?....this is a joke....the nfl really needs to look at this....pathetic

The offense looked really good on that drive. Rock had a nice run. JC threw some nice passes. And, the best thing was no Run-Run-Pass.

Man that was without CP in there. I can't wait until next week.

I loves me some HB Blades. That boy is a definite keeper.

Love Trucks with the throw-back Dexter Manley neck support.

check-that, meant Wilbur Marshall

Sam giving HB a lot of respect. Says the D is playing really fast.

83,088

David Macklin on the corner blitz. Nice sack.

unfortunately sam than mumbled something about chris hamburger and asked for seconds on cream corn...

Bram just reported that Jansen is having his lower back ice down by the trainers. See this is why I don't care that CP didn't play one snap.

Our 2nd string defense looks better than our first string last year

Nate Dogg, Cyn Cyty, anyone else who cares:

We got The Boren Penultimatum in the bag!

LOL Poor Sam. He's like the senile uncle that you hide in an upstairs bedroom. You love him, but you want to keep him away from people before he says anything embarrassing.

No worries -- Wade is a better right tackle than Jansen is now.

CL what are you talking about? That is so not true but you did get a laugh out of me.

WHEW BRunell playing now... can't believe i said that

Marcus Mason in now at RB

I second that, Dante. This is probably the only time I'll ever be relieved to see Brunell on the field.

Mason is a baller. Love that kid.

Brunell on a bootleg. WOW! Would have love to see that one. LMGO

i know jm220 but he did compare blades to chris hamburger earlier...

sam is so done...

rain...great...i am even nervous about injuries to depth...

Who's the guy on offense with the dreads... they are blocking his name... but they are impressive

Does anyone else love the Jints back up QB Lorenzen.....i love that dude....to bad a giant...

#41? His name is Brian Bell.

CL you just love him because he damn near 285lbs. lol

Because of the fly-by-night cable company in 21132, I can only "watch" the game on NFL game center. It is one or two plays ahead of XXX. This is the link:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29503&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=PRE4

Just got home. How did JC look?

jm220....agreed...us portlies need to stand tight!!!

SCSkinsFan,
70 yard drive for a TD. He made it look easy against the 2nd JAX D.

CL LMGO!!

Buying my Super Bowl tickets!!! Looking good so far!!! cooleyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

JC was 5/5, 54 yds, 1 TD.

Thanks, Stumped.

Just got on NFL gamecenter. 5/5 for 54 yds and a TD. Nice.

HTTR

Fire up the Bandwagon!

I'm feeling GREAT about the Boren Penultimatum. It IS in the bag.

Saw what we needed to see. D held up in the first series and Campbell finishes with a perfect QB rating. Shows over ... time to go home.

Portis' approval rating rivals that of President Bush. His reoccurring knee tendinitis has caused his ADP to plummet from the mid-second to the late-third round (31.3 Y! ADP). But don't be imperceptive. Whispers from Redskins insiders have described the injury as "overblown." More than likely, Gibbs has simply exercised extreme caution to ensure his star back is at or near 100 percent for the start of the season.

Don't be obtuse to Portis' saliva-inducing potential. Still only 25, the flamboyant tugboat is a gifted, tough inside runner who showcases electric acceleration through the hole and on the corners.

Outside of his impressive physical skills, the peripherals for a banner campaign are favorable. The Redskins' acquisition of veteran guard Pete Kendall from the Jets bolsters an already formidable offensive line. Also, Washington has a laughable schedule with 10 games against rushing defenses that ranked well outside the top 10 last year. Finally, throw in Jason Campbell's continued maturation and Al Saunders' explosive ground philosophy and Portis has the foundations to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Sure, Ladell Betts is a must handcuff. And, yes, he'll likely wrestle away 8-12 carries per game and see an expanded role until Portis proves fully operable. But look at the situation positively. Betts will ease Portis' load, which should keep the cursed No. 26 healthy and more productive. If you recall, the Redskins ran the ball 30.6 times per game last season. Even if Betts carried the rock 10 times per game, Portis would finish with 1,351 rushing yards and 14 touchdowns over a 16-game slate based on his 4.1 YPC and 0.87 TD/G averages from last year. Convinced he'll miss time? Using the same averages over 12 games - not including the likely 200-plus receiving yards he could feasibly rack - Portis would finish with 1,013 rushing yards and 10 scores. That's an average of 13.4 PPG, which would've ranked 13th among backs last year.

Heady owners looking to steal Portis for a six-pack of Mickey's must act now. In recent Yahoo! Plus league trades he's commanded thrifty returns, swapped straight up for Carnell Williams, Ahman Green and Hines Ward. For those yet to draft, he's worth the risk in the late second round in 12-team drafts. Fearless Forecast (13 games): 1,118 rushing yards, 10 touchdowns, 24 receptions, 225 receiving yards.

For those of you outside of the area, try this site to see the game. I've never used any of the streaming sites they list there, and it looks like you'll probably have to download and install software of some type, but at least this gives you something to try for some visuals.

http://streamednfl.blogspot.com/

Looks like Macklin is playing well.

We have an embarassment of riches at DB after the SpeedRumph shabingus

A couple of other options for now or future games:

http://www.sportstvlive.us/

http://www.streamtvnow.tv/

I can't speak to how they work, how reliable they are, etc. But, I saw them listed on another site. You can check them out if you wish.

alright not listening anymore...let me know any thing important

Touchdown Brunell

crickets

Lisa will be happy =]

details?

Brunell 5/6 47 yds 1 TD

14 yd pass to Hoag... "perfect pass" according to Sonny...more Sonny....

"Best the offense has looked all offseason"

I am going to hate myself for this. CL they just did a add for your croc shoes.

Watch Portis fumble against the fins. We lose. He gets yanked. As he predicted, gone next year.

JM220:SWEET!!!!

peri...wow...ok...

Come on 2nd team Defense stopthem already.

don't be perdiculous!

4th and 7....40 yard bomb for the TD =[

Jaguars are in teh game now

Pulling out hammer. Double smack to the back of your damn head periculum. What are you basing this off? Have you ever even played a sport?

check that...short pass....missed tackle by Westbrook..safeties in on a blitz

Cue the lightning. Everybody go home.

"Westbrook missed badly" on that play....not going to help his chances

LBP is in the game

SH!T

Cowgirls just gave up a touchdown....somewhere a unicorn just got its wings.

I am feeling really good about next week.

CL did you see your boy from the G Men run down field and throw a block?

no...wife home...she is watching some horrendously bad movie.....heather locklear...hillary duff...wow

Wish that I could bear witness, visually, to our productive QB output, tonight.

I will need to settle for Raiders/Seahawks, which is coming on in a few minutes out here in the Pac NW.

Hail!

I think there were three standout players among the question marks. First was Marcus Mason. He was running against a scrub defense, but what I liked about him was his ability to make a bunch of cutbacks to hit holes. I think he will at least make the practice squad, especially with Portis health questions. Second was Ryan Hoag. He had nice footwork when he made the catch in the end zone. But what I really liked about him was when Mason had one of his good runs, it was Hoag that was blocking several yards downfield. That's the sign of a player that wants to make the team. After blocking his man out of the picture, Hoag turned around and started blocking someone else. It was great work. I had no idea who that #18 was, so after that play I came back and found it was Hoag. The third player was LB Anthony Trucks. Always seemed to be around the ball. He actually made a good pass defense downfield like a CB. Grilliams likes those LBs that are quick enough to cover downfield. Overall, I'm pretty happy after the first half.

should have dealt portis and bloyd to oakland for randy moss...that would have earned gibbs a 4th trophy

bah...jacksonville TD...after a Frost shank...

Sam..."Looks like Frost kicked that with his knee."

just got home from football [ractice with my son, what is score, how we doin, reading thru, looks like we doin good, can't get any updates here in CT

All you CP haters. What are you doing to do when he start balling like before? Some of you are such fair weather fans. You guys will be the same one praising him

connskins....redskins Offense looked good...

J. Campbell 5/5 54 1
M. Brunell 5/6 47 1

Palmer is really stinking it up.

He was instructed to do so to minimize the risk he gets plucked off the PS

Only Fag* like strahan say balling! Everybody made fun of the Giants D and they stoped real fast!

Redskins 1st string offense should look good against 3rd stringers!

Love Whole Foods! @ what other supermarket could I score a date with one of the employees? @ what other supermarket would I even want to?

Smarter than dating a bartender, JM, Diddy?

Over-the-moon off-topic, I know, but come on, it's the second half of preseason game 4 in a 12-4 season!

HAIL

nobody from jags 1st string d started!

Please help me to understand who Palmer thought he saw. LOL That kid is terrible. I can't imagine that Bramlet was worse than this.

Did I just say 12-4? Did somebody ether me?

Palmer picked....returned for a TD.....dreadful start for LBP...fumble, interception, delay of game, etc.

RMilot LMGO

Man LBP seems to really sucks.

Sam said LBP just played his way off the team. LOL Even suggested that he might want to go to Canada. LOL

RMilot....mission accomplished.

So, Bramlet to ATL was a mistake?

Justme I was LMGO about that statement as well.

What happened to Eubanks? I had the TV off while I was putting the brat in bed. I came back in time to see LBP throw that horrible interception, but I didn't see why they were carting Eubanks off.

It appears the gaping chasm between BBM and LBM pales by comparison to that between BBP and LBP

I guess, given their relative draft position, this comes as no great surprise

Rmilot after a KEG of KOOLAIDE I agree, 12-4 but when it wheres off and reality settles in its 4-12!

keep dolla bill happy and healthy I dont care if he didnt touch the ball in the pre-season.

JC looked good, 5 for 5 54 and a TD! I'll take it, esp since I was worried about his knee even if it was just a bruise.

LBP stinks out loud. I'm usually one for not being too harsh on the kids, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why they wasted a draft pick on this boy.

Bram just mentioned Eubanks had a "hamstring injury."

JustMe

Bram just said he has a hamstring pull.

Thanks guys.

got to agree with jm220... people will eat some crow in regards to Portis this year... at least I hope so, I drafted him in the 2nd round for fantasy football.

Bram said he spoke with JC after halftime. The knee feels great.

jm220 I hope because somebody made fun of you saying Balling your going to stop?

JustMe, not actually having looked at the answer, who else was taken around him?

Chatting with Jon Wile, who does layout for us. He caught the latest epi of "Hard Knocks" last night...the one that features Rod Gardner getting cut. Sounds like must-see viewing....

redskinfan666 trust me he will have a big season. People (most who never played the game) are making way too much over this. He will be really sore come Monday and Tuesday but other than that. There really is nothing to worry about.

jm
did you play in college or anything?
serious question...

got to agree with jm220... people will eat some crow in regards to Portis this year... at least I hope so, I drafted him in the 2nd round for fantasy football.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 30, 2007 09:39 PM

Well, Ini, if you took CP in round 2, I assume you went either RB or top-notch QB in the first. Either way, that's a great value pick.

RBD202

I played from little league all the way through high school. Went to college on a track scholarship.

jm220 that doesnt anwser the saying BALLING and somebody made fun by puting down gmen for saying it last yr? Which was Gay!

I played a ton of Madden Football in college.

RMilot,

A bunch of other dudes I know nothing about. LOL I thought I remembered them looking at that TE Ben Patrick, though, who was taken 10 picks after Palmer (and just before the Skins selected Tyler Ecker). Maybe they should have taken him with the LBP pick.

nice
was trying to think of a jm that played
john matuszak...
got nothing

redskinfan666

ITA.

joe morris - is that you?

Then again, let me see if Patrick is even still on the roster of the team who picked him. LOL

Seriously, JM. You're the coolest dude on this blog, but this notion that one has to have played football to hold a valid opinion on it is wrong, jockocratic and narrow-minded; I think you're better than that.

Jacksonville's scrubs are taking the 'Skins scrubs behind the woodshed.

duhhh joe montana
welcome to RI

Sam just said the 10 o clock news will be coming shortly and that came out of no where. LMGO You got to love Sam

Seriously, JM. You're the coolest dude on this blog, but this notion that one has to have played football to hold a valid opinion on it is wrong, jockocratic and narrow-minded; I think you're better than that.

Posted by: RMilot | August 30, 2007 09:50 PM

We never played a down of football but I bet we know more than anyone on this blog.

RMilot if you played then you would know you can go without playing in the games. It's not like CP forgot how to run. So, it's really silly for people to sit and say he is done because he didn't play in pre season.

Let's compare ....

Jacksonville...Q. Gray 14/19 147 2 0
Washington ....J. Palmer 2/7 10 0 1

It's not missing the games that worries me. I'm talkin' bout . . . practice

Nice pull Inigo. I grabbed Peyton first, and picked up CP early 3rd round. Nothing but laughter in the draft room.

I point to their schedule, half the teams had bottom tier ranked run defenses last year, so nice value pick? I like.

I am with you and old school baller jm220, CP is gonna light it up this year, it just feels right.

wow, nfl network, i think actually just complemented the skins, i will have to listen again

wow, our back-up back-ups really, really suck

Yeah....Collins and Brunell are old...we need to find a decent #2 QB soon.

Portis gets ~20 touches in Week One. Book it.

RMilot he has practice. Remember practice is closed to reporters now. (go back a couple of post and read JLC words yourself) And the limit access that JLC did have he said CP was out there doing drills.

Sure 'Palmer the #3' was dumb before this game, now it is just plain assinine. Collins getting no action. Huh?

QBs

1. JC
2a #8
2b Collins

Pratice squad Palmer

Wes....here's a question for you.

Does CP break 100 yards? What's CP's over/under?

Has anybody seen rookie DE Justin Hickman do anything this preseason? He had nice stats at UCLA and I remember reading that his college coaches thought he had a chance to catch on.

Man this game is taking forever to end.

Joe T just informed us he had small hands and still does.

Nah, I'd say under 100, especially against the Dolphins D. But we'll see. I'll put the o/u for CP at 80 total yards. Betts will get his.

This little twerp in the Geico commercial -- JM, would you please apply your hand to the back of his head?

Does CP break 100 yards? What's CP's over/under?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 30, 2007 10:01 PM

86 on 22 runs. Bank it. Ladell with 40 on 5 runs. RB controversy...

Okay, only 3 NFLteams have had two backs with 1,000 yards...is this the year??

1972 Miami Dolphins
Larry Csonka - 1,117 yards on 213 carries
Mercury Morris - 1,000 yards on 190 carries

1976 Pittsburgh Steelers
Franco Harris - 1,128 yards on 289 carries
Rocky Bleier - 1,036 yards on 220 carries

1985 Cleveland Browns
Kevin Mack - 1,104 yards on 222 carries
Earnest Byner - 1,002 yards on 244 carries

Kinda nice when the sound keeps going out. Only way to shut up Joey T

not football but funny as SJK

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/08/29/moos.craig.follies.cnn

I played a couple of seasons down here! I was a Tight End. So Joe, if Yoder and Edwards don't work out, gimme a call! Hahaha

Although as you can imagine, it wasn't the highest quality.

JC just said he feel good about the O. That they are ahead of where they were this time last pre season.

God, Chris Hansen. The guy saves our children from internet predators, then gets signed to the Pats. What a roll!

Patriots sign punter Hanson, release Baugher


Aug. 30, 2007
CBSSports.com wire reports

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The New England Patriots have signed veteran punter Chris Hanson and released first-year punter Danny Baugher.

The 30-year-old Hanson has 428 punts for 18,347 yards with the Green Bay Packers and the Jacksonville Jaguars. He has averaged 42.9 yards per punt.

He was released earlier this week by the New Orleans Saints.

The 22-year-old Baugher was signed to the Patriots' practice squad in October, then assigned to NFL Europa after the season.

Holy dang! Is that the time? Alright, blog buddies. See y'all in the ayem.

It's going to be so sweet when Uncle Al finally cuts the offense loose in Week One. Remember in Rocky IV, when Drago's fighting Creed, and in the early rounds Drago is stumbling around the ring like an uncoordinated oaf? James Brown is singing, everybody's happy, America rules. Then Drago's trainer screams something in Russian and Drago transforms instantly into a killing machine? Yeah. Uncle Al's practicing his Russian, and the hammer drops September 9. Be afraid, NFL.

Wow does BBP suck. Brunell and Collins aren't going anywhere. I don't care who is #2 or #3 between them, as long as it's not the rookie.

Marcus Mason and Ryan Hoag...good chances to stick around.

That's all I got.

You know, I'm not even sure what is it, but I'M LOVING KOOL AID!!!!!

Coach just said thank goodness that pre season is over. He was ready for it to be over by half time.

Wow does BBP suck. Brunell and Collins aren't going anywhere. I don't care who is #2 or #3 between them, as long as it's not the rookie.

Marcus Mason and Ryan Hoag...good chances to stick around.

That's all I got.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 30, 2007 10:19 PM

BBP din't look so bad this week. LBP on the other hand, er...

4-12,

I agree.... earlier I said that I would rather take Palmer over Brunell, but boy do I take that back now. I know MB will probably never see the field this year, but Palmer was atrocious.

BBP= Baby Brother Palmer

BBP looked like dung. No way that dude is related to Carson. I'd take Jesse Palmer over that lummix Jordache.

now that bbp is out
who is the #2?
I vote for Collins but JG might still want MB

Yeah RB- That was rough. Wife was in the room when he threw the INT...looks at me and says "who was he throwing that to?".

Best Palmer: President David Palmer (RIP)

Sorry Wes, best Palmer is Arnold Palmer. Dennis Haysbert is an awesome actor though.

Kost- I did many seconds of research earlier today for the fantasy football draft. To save you and your mates the hassle...don't bother drafting: Peyton Manning, LT, Steven Jackson, or Larry Johnson in the 1st 4 rounds. They're worthless. Won't help your team at all. No point wasting a pick on any of them. No sir. Hope that helps your planning!

Bethesdaboys's favorite high school girlfriend:

Rosy Palmer

Well, I'm glad the pre-season is completed.
Up 14-3 I was feeling pretty good about tonight, but then the bottom seemed to fall out... goodness, those last two quarters were ugly.

but my main concern was answered positively.
I did not want JC in there long, nor CP in there at all.

I really liked the first team D not in there at all. GW probably said "My starters are set; I know what I want and got. Let's rest them and play all reserves and make evaluation for the last 3 or 4 roster spots on D.

Why have the Skins' second/third teamers and free agent players performed so poorly over the past 3 years?

That, to me, is a troubling sign. They appear to be poorly coached and prepared.

Granted, 95% of them will be cut. But that 5% can, for some teams, be an important part of a team.

And the Skins just aren't getting that 5% help.

Pretty pathetic performance by the 4th string QB. Obviously the season is lost after a 31-14 drubbing by a mediocre Jville team. There's always next year......

just considering how badly I felt after last year's pre-seaon.
Now compare it to this year.
At least I know we will be competitive again as opposed to last year.

Heads up everyone, things are looking much better than last year.

brunell to get traded to seattle
on channel 9

jm220 ate a candy bar in 1998!!!!

Brunell is in the process of being traded to Seattle for a draft pick. Should be in a day or two. He will be their #2 QB, replacing Senneca Wallace, who is moving to TE.

Channel 9 reporting that Skins are in process of trading Brunnell to Seattle for a draft pick! LBP as 3rd string?????

brett habers source
brunell did not deny

Okay, did anyone hear something on Channel 9 about Brunell going to the Seahawks???

Brunell to Seatlle

Wow... So, are they going to go with 2 QBs on the roster? Or, will they pick up a 3rd string guy from somewhere, as it CANNOT be LBP?

Will Day Late Canfora get this info to us tonight?

My prediction was half right.

I correctly predicted Brunell was going to be traded. Just wrong team. I still take credit...

Did they disclose which round the draft pick is?

late round

It is a WUSA exclusive JLaC dosen't know about it yet....

"All you CP haters. What are you doing to do when he start balling like before? Some of you are such fair weather fans. You guys will be the same one praising him"

If he does, and he may, he will screw up fumble drop passes etc first. Just like Jordan Palmer with his very first action ... again
Portis is NOT LaDamian Tomlinson. NOT, NOT, NOT. He is not a Larry Brown, he is not a Riggins he is not a Byner. He needs these preseason games to tune up and get in synch with his offense. Without that he becomes a huge risk.

Wow... HB Blades in the suit for the post game interview. I love this dude.

Deal is not yet done. Will be done in a few days....

They said the Brunell deal is not done, but should be within the next couple of days.

CHANNEL 9 JUST SAID BRUNELL TRADED TO SEATTLE

Stop with Larry Brown stuff. Larry Brown is no Clinto Portis! He had a few great seasons, like Terrel Davis but is no where near the top ten Redskins! Be his fan but stop making CP out to be some chump because he missed preseason. The dude doesn't fumble.

Collins cleary beat out Brunello for #2 veteran backup status, so getting a late round draft pick for Brunell is prudent...but the problem is the #3 looked really bad tonight... possibly have to burn another draft pick next year on QB

They must have drugged and tied up Gibbs to make that trade. I like it. Something for nothing.

after tonight, trading brunell might not be the smartest thing...

We actually RECEIVED a draft pick for a has been third string q-back? Can't be true....

I am curious to see how JLC spins the Brunell trade into another FO shabingus

More goood news. Getting rid of that weak t*t arm Brunell AND picking up a draft pick ...Shrewd move.

I personally believe the U.S. Americans do not support Mark Brunell because some people out there in our nation don't have Mark Brunell and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa or should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our Mark Brunell for us.

Anyone know what the cap implications would be if Brunell is shipped off? More $$ for Cooley?

Trading Brunell would be a stupid move - after Collins we have NOBODY! Poor Palmer just ain't ready....

I'm sure Jeff George would be available if it came to a choice of him or LBP

Lisa - half the teams in the league only keep 2 QBs on the 53 man roster

"Why have the Skins' second/third teamers and free agent players performed so poorly over the past 3 years?
That, to me, is a troubling sign. They appear to be poorly coached and prepared.
Granted, 95% of them will be cut. But that 5% can, for some teams, be an important part of a team.
And the Skins just aren't getting that 5% help."

I'll take the glass-half-full stance here. NO they are actually performing much, much better this year. We note that one of the TDs was by baby Palmer and not the defense. Baby Palmer also helped put them in bad field position. It was all okay truth be told.

Now the coaches know what they have absorbed and what they still need to work on with the youngsters. They also know they have vets like Cornelius Griffin, Philip Daniels, Randall Godfrey,
London Fletcher, and Shawn Springs to help them get there from here. The Redskins defenses of the past have always thrived on the right mixture of youth and veteran experience to be effective. Its the same now, and there will be much better added depth.

On the offense. They now have an inkling of where the line is with its new configuration. Heyer continues to improve. Now it comes down to the subs. Who will end up backing up the starters? At wide receiver it looks like Ryan Hoag made a statement to pull away from the pack. Maybe that was enough?

At running back they've had a good look at Marcus Mason.

At quarterback it looks Brunell proves to be the better man despite the agile brain of Todd Collins. Did Jordan Palmer show
enough to be kept around? He threw a lot of int's in college too.

At tight end we saw some new guys in there.

So now its up to the coaches to look at what they've got versus what they might find on the waiver wire.

I am watching the Raiders/Seahawks game right now and Seneca Wallace is at QB. They also haven't mentioned the trade yet, but I certainly can see why they would want to get him involved with the offense more, as he will probably be a great TE.

Lisa,

If Campbell AND Collins go down...well, let's not go down that road.

I shudder everytime I think of the "Body Bag" game.

Let's be honest, any team that gets down to their 3rd string qb is not going anywhere anyway. Getting back a pick for one you just gave up to get a better player (Kendall), who will start, is a must.

It's really strange to me that Sportsnet has mentioned nothing about the Brunell trade rumor - since they are practically in bed with the Skins....but maybe that is why.

Brunell to Seattle? We need recon, JLC!

Can we keep Marcus Mason? That dude can play.

I agree with Miss South Caribbean...we should all believe in the fourth string forward to help eliminate racial geographing. That would make not voting that much easier.

Brunell to Seattle, No way? Unless it its a 3-way with Atlanta.

Palmer was terrible, but the good news is that it's been years since we've ever had to use a third QB. Even under a worst case scenario and both Campbell and Collins gets hurt, we can still go with Randel El before Palmer.

Can we keep Marcus Mason? That dude can play.

Posted by: JustMe | August 30, 2007 11:02 PM

He had a much better showing than dee brown. My guess is mason is kept around as the 4th rb

Midniterc...good point about ARE at 3rd...'Skins should only carry 2 QBs and open up a roster spot.

brunell trade story on channel 9 website

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=62301

on 2nd thought...
why panic, we do have Randle El, he could play in an emergency

So now Bram Weinstein says that Joe Gibbs has firmly and flatly denied that the Brunell trade is on. JLC, where are you?

Brunell to Seatle makes sense for the Seahawks. They have no one behind Hassleback, he's a local guy (UW) and they have a good chance at the post season.

Atlanta makes no sense, have two journeymen and no expectations. Coach can get a pass for this year and his guy (the guy from Louisville) next year.

Peri, admit it. You are out of you mind.

Ditto the ARE comments. Jasno really needs a blackberry so he can make sure to keep us in the know 24/7 no way RI should ever get scooped by channel 9.

A dark day in Redskins history...

The Body Bag Game (November 12, 1990, Washington Redskins vs. Philadelphia Eagles, Monday Night Football)
In the days leading to the clash, Eagles head coach Buddy Ryan threatened a beating so severe that "they'll have to be carted off in body bags." Ryan's words were prophetic. The Eagles defense scored three touchdowns in a 28-14 win and knocked nine Redskins out of the game, including two quarterbacks. The Redskins finished with running back-returner Brian Mitchell playing quarterback.

Hmmm I wonder? I wonder if the Danny pulled the rug out from under Gibbs the way he has so often done with all of his past coaches.

Breaking news from Channel 9 Sports: Gibbs resigns.

I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive. Given that Palmer has always been considered a project and Bramlet had experience, I'm really surprised. Wonder if there is a story somewhere there. He seemed to catch on quickly enough down in Atlanta...

If you think Gibbs was pissed at Jason ... just wait and see what he will do to Channel 9!?

Gibbs denied the trade. But, he denies everything. So, we'll see where this goes over the next few days.

"I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive."

Wanted to give him a chance to catch on play somewhere. He clearly wasn't in their plans.

Peri, I agree that more sources need to confirm this thing. However, when reality stares you in the face, you don't blink.

I don't knwo what is worst, the nfl preaseason or these top teams playing these joke of a games in college football tonight

I'm inclined to side with Haber here. Haber scooped everybody big time on the Lerners getting the Nats. Dude has sources and he puts it out there.

Uncle Spence...who says the NCAA doesn't have preseason games?

I'll give u that when louisville had 70 8 min into the 3rd quarter

I actually think there may be something to the trade rumor. While Sportsnet has not mentioned anything about it in the Post Game Show (and they are on top of everything Skins) they were talking about cuts and mentioned "will the Skins keep 3 QBs?" Will Mark Brunell still be here? Which leads me to believe they know something but have been asked to keep quiet by the Skins. Gibbs would never trade Brunell away unless Brunell wanted to go...and Seattle is where Brunell is from and would want to go.

Wha' happened??

the skins don't own comcast by the way
they probably just haven't confirmed it and are waiting to do so
but chick did refer to "whether brunell would be here or not"

Well, on Channel 9 they did say Brunell was aware of the move and that he was happy about it. They mentioned him going to college in Washington, of course, and that he still had lots of family there. Plus, there would be no competition there for him if Matt Hasselbeck was injured. Seneca Wallace is a good athlete, but not such a good QB.

WHERE IS JLC??

getting scooped by every other media outlet

Anybody say 6th yet?

""I still don't get why they cut Bramlet so early. He didn't count against the roster since he was Europa and he can't have been all that expensive."

Wanted to give him a chance to catch on play somewhere. He clearly wasn't in their plans."

Nice to know that they're a charity and not a football team.

NOT BREAKING NEWS
There is no trade in the works involving Brunell. Earlier in the day there was an inquiry by the Seahawks. Sources close to Brunell said the veteran had been told nothing about a trade being completed, or even close, after the game. Collins has outplayed him this preseason, but the other option for a third quarterback -- rookie Jordan Palmer -- is nowhere close to being ready for the NFL and went 2-for-8 for 10 yards with an interception (returned for a touchdown) and a rating of 0.0 in more than a half of work.

As for the anonymous person who wonders where Jason is...he's working the locker room, refiling his story and making some calls.

Bramlet was cut because not only was he 'not in their plans,' but because they had FIVE QBs. You can't keep a guy on the roster to just stand around in practice.

A quick thanks to those who blogged the important first quarter plays - I just got home and ran through the comments and don't even need to read a recap.

As for Brunell, still just a rumor, so Jasno won't give us any firm info. PFT, unreliable as they are, isn't even reporting the rumor yet.

I'm still wondering about that flight attendant who stuck Littery in an airplane toilet for an hour. How bad would that headache have to be for you to stay in there?

I said this earlier today -- about eight threads back, I think -- but the dropoff from Campbell to anybody, anybody, is so severe that I think it hardly matters who the #2 and #3 QBs are. Just like the Colts and a handful of other teams, our eggs are in one basket.

Here's hoping Soup stays upright. Man, do we need him.

Wow, Seattle is a bit out of left field isn't it. But seriously, if the Seahawks plan is to get an athletic guy like Seneca Wallace into the game more, (which makes sense)don't you think it would've been a good idea to start putting that process into place during the start of the pre-season? It's not like they didn't know how good he was, didn't they use him as a WR against us in the playoffs more than a year ago??

Actually, refiling two stories.
:)

I love littery/dealer like my crazy cousin who makes me kind of nervous at family reunions. But I can totally, totally see a flight attendant suggesting he take a seat in the loo for the duration of the flight.

Guessing there wasn't an air marshal on board who could take him down with a tranquilizer dart.

Aha!

Mike Holmgren, formerly known as a genius, sees the utterly brilliant magic that Gibbs, formerly known as a genius, and Saunders, known more recently than either of them as a genius, have cooked up with ARE! And he wants a piece of that!

Seneca Wallace is his ARE, the 'good' Hasselback is his Soup, and now Brunell can be his Todd Collins!

Or something!

It's all making sense!

Totally awesome beer award... and this is saying something a night after that incredible cask-conditioned ale we quaffed at the final ODA...

Haymaker Extra Pale Ale, from Portland's Bridgeport Brewing Co.

Twelve ounces of pure delight.

I'm heading out...On to 88,888!

Did anyone see how Kendall played on that first series?

SCSkinsfan, Buges said tonight (before the game) that he is "elated" they got Kendall. Said he is a student of the game and has a great work ethic.

rotoworld.com

Redskins deny Brunell trade report

Despite a WUSA-9 report in Washington,there is no deal in place to trade Mark Brunell to the Seahawks.

The station said the move was in motion, but we've confirmed there is no deal at this point. The Seahawks reportedly started the talks, and a trade could still happen by Saturday. Aug. 30 - 10:55 pm et

Cindy, you just got mentioned on Sportsnet....

Lisa, what was the Cindy reference?

Nate, I came close to giving my first Thumbs Down last night! It was called Blowhard Pale, was a very different taste, my g/f said it was very sweet. Only just passed. Maybe I should be giving them a grade out of 10.

Just watched the game highlights on Sportscenter. A thing of beauty. They just showed Campbell going 5 for 5. All 5 passes. No other plays from the game. Just an "oh, yeah, they got beat, but so what, Jason Campbell went 17 for 27 in the preseason." The end.

Jags fans won't be happy, but the Skins starting offense looked like a force. Now i'm rooting for a Top 10 for the ARE pass.

I'm sure this has been discussed already up here, but I have to talk about the ESPN Monday Night Football ad.

Hearing that music as they show a shot of Landry and Samuels getting ready to run out of the tunnel out on to the field gets the blood pumping.

But where did they get that shot from?

5 for 5 for six. Anyone else think Soup might not be ready? Doesn't mean he won't have some bad games, but did you see the 3 step drop and the touch he had to lay that ball right in ARE's hands? Man oh man, this man can play.

Marcus Mason reminds me of Emmitt Smith. Great feet. Great eyes. Does he have to pass thru waivers before being put on a practice squad? If so, I'd worry that someone's going to claim him.

#26 will carry this offense again in '07 like he did in '05, in my very humble opinion.
Clinton Portis is a MAN.

As ARE said after the game, Soup just put the ball up there - ARE went in got it.

That pass was actually pretty dangerous.

Did Pretty Boy play tonight?

So at the end of the Seahawks/Raiders game, they interviewed Seneca Wallace since he played a majority of the game.

And the final question, from Warren Moon, who does the broadcasts with the local network, asked Seneca if he would love to play a position other then QB. The smile that spread across Seneca's face was more then a simple: "Sure-I'll-play-anywhere" look. It looked like he knew something more and the tone in Warren's voice seemed like he knew something more too...

Just saying...

NFL Live. Trey Wingo, Eric Allen, Sean Salisbury. Redskins/Jaguars highlights.

Trey: "Alright, here we go, Redskins at Jaguars, Jason Campbell starting at quarterback"

Sean: "Yeah, he was hurt, but NOBODY puts Baby in the corner, Trey"

Trey: "Well, I didn't know his nickname was Baby!"

Sean: (hearty laughter at his own cleverness)

Trey: "Screen pass to Santana Moss, gain of 4, next play, after a false start, Chris 'Cooley High' with the reception for a gain of 8 - see what I did there?"

Sean: "Niiiiiice, Trey!"

Alright, looks like I will need to do my part to get this post over the 300 mark...

Sean: "I think Jason Campbell's got a chance to be a star in this league."

Eric: "You know what? I like what he's doing right now."

Trey: "Well, you find Cooley, that's going to help ya... And then, second and 7, Campbell avoids the pressure..."

Sean: "Niiiiice!"

Trey: "...out to fullback Mark [sic] Sellers, and a - FIRST DOWN!"

Trey: "Ninth play of the drive, Campbell... 24 yard touchdown..."

Sean: "Nice brurrh!"

Trey: "...ANTWAN RANDLE EL!!!"

Eric: "Nice call!"

Sean: "That's good"

Trey: "In his only series, Campbell perfect, 5-for-5, meaning..."

Sean: "Get him out!"

Trey: (muttering) Jags win.

They gave the jags no love. It was pretty funny.

No Jags dap in SportsCenter or NFL Live. Some guy named Gray goes 17 for 22 with 2 TDs and they don't even mention his name.

Ouch.

So does that mean the theory saying ESPN puts Redskins on the wrong side of players' highlights is a myth?

I think I worded that terribly!

so where can i see the first series? my beloved forgot to push record...

didn't i call (for) it? btw...the first drive? 14-2! c'mon c'mon *said like marky mark*

mark, thanks! i totally forgot because i thought it was a headache...and treated it as such since i'm prone to migraines. and it was my second transcontinental flight in 24 hours...so i was very confused. confused enough to be sitting in that loo with...

I'm still wondering about that flight attendant who stuck Littery in an airplane toilet for an hour. How bad would that headache have to be for you to stay in there?
_____________________________

How do we know he was alone?

NEVER MIND: Adding intrigue to injury in the first half was an erroneous report by a Washington, D.C., TV station that said the Seahawks had completed a trade for veteran quarterback Mark Brunell, the former Washington Husky.

A Seahawks spokesman denied that a deal had been made and the TV station later retracted its own report. (Seattle P-I)

Harumph. I was watching the Haber interview Brunell after the game, at work, with the sound on mute, but I thought I read Brunell's lips to say something about "I've been proud to wear this uniform" as he tugged on the front of his jersey. Thought that meant it was curtains or crickets.

So much for that Chevy promo over at redskins.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2998134

Maybe it's a trade involving TIM Hasslebeck.

WUSATV9.com still has the story up:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=62301

Sleepers, according to Clayton.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2997877

QUOTE TO NOTE: "Clinton's got a lot of comical stuff, but sometimes I wish he wasn't the comic." -- Coach Joe Gibbs, who like everyone else is never quite sure what to make of RB Clinton Portis.

S.I. Scouting (?) Report.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/preview/2007/scouting.report/redskins.html

Luckily for me, the flu only effects horses. Not those who are hung like horses!

Posted by: kost52 | August 30, 2007 07:26 PM

Kost,

I'm shocked to read that they still hang horses in Australia. We outlawed that practice in 1956. Now, it's lethal injections. What a barabric country. You should emigrate.

I said this earlier today -- about eight threads back, I think -- but the dropoff from Campbell to anybody, anybody, is so severe that I think it hardly matters who the #2 and #3 QBs are. Just like the Colts and a handful of other teams, our eggs are in one basket.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 11:39 PM

Nate,

Tell it like it is, Reverend Nate. Amen.

They could trade Brunell AND Collins and it wouldn't affect where the team ends up (provided they make Randle El the #2). It's a big drop off after Campbell, but partly that's because Campbell's so good. There's no dropoff from Brunell to Collins or Collins to Brunell.

jm220

ITA

I think it's hilarious that people were calling for JLC's head last night for not posting on the blog 30 minutes after the game... ARE YOU SERIOUS?

30 minutes, heck 90 minutes, after the game, the dude is still in the locker room, talking to players or writing his article for the morning paper, etc. This blog is probably #43 on his list of priorities, yet he and Cindy still make it a point to give us "insider" news on a pretty regular basis.

Give the guy a break. PLEASE!

As far as Brunell goes, I'm 50/50 on a trade. 99% of the time a team never makes it to their 3rd string QB during a given season, plus we have BBP/Randle-El as emergency QB's. On the flip side, I'd be interested to see the pick Seattle is offering us, as well as the cap ramifications of a trade. I know that is not going to pretty.

I know, I know, easy for me to be an armchair GM and all, but cap space be damned!

I'd sweeten the deal by sending the Shehawks our third round pick in '08, two ham sandwiches AND a maple bar, if that's what it took to get Brunell into someone else's uniform this week.

Had an interesting time at Champions last night... at least it used to be called champions in Rockville.

Watched the game, then there was some house poker going on. So I sat in on the low table, and then won to the next table.

First hand I pull a card on the river all-in, and drop this other skins fan to a couple chips.

Man I felt bad doing that to my bretheren. So I asked him if he blogs, and he said yeah... on ES.

Now I dont feel so bad. I got busted out later but I tried to sway him to switch sides... we will see.

I find it utterly staggering that anybody, anybody would even consider trading anything for Brunell.

Do these people not have access to game footage from the 2005 and 2006 seasons?

Nate I am 50/50 on trading Brunell. After watching the game highlights on redskins.com. LBP look really bad but the other side is when was the last time a team lost 2 qb's in a season.

Zebra, it's been so long since any of our teams were or even looked like champions that DC can't even have a sports bar called Champions anymore?

On Mike & Mike this a.m., they were briefly discussing the NFC East and both thought that the 'Skins were still 4th in the division. Weren't saying they were awful, but they just don't see them stepping up this year. I say nice to fly under the radar for awhile....

Gotcha, jm220, right as usual. I'm just stunned that anybody, no matter how dire straits they may be in, would consider trading for this guy.

And us getting anything for him in return? That would be simply incredible.

In any event, it hasn't happened yet, but I did pack a ham sandwich with my lunch just in case.

Nate
If they are willing to give a draft pick for him is the only reason for 50% for trading him. Face it this is his last year. If we could get something for him makes you want to pull the trigger.

Yeah Nate;

It is called Winston Billiards and Cafe.

Do not go there.

There were two pull down screens for projectors to watch the game. With the poker tourney there, only one was right in front of the table peeps were eating and drinking at.

So about 12 people were buying food and beer to watch the game right in front of them.

All of a sudden, they change the channel to the Tulsa UL-Monroe game. We asked what was up and they said one guy at the bar wanted to watch it.

Now the other pull down was still on the skins. but it was across the way, with the poker tourney in between us and the screen. So peeps were blocking the screen frequently.

They pulled down another screen that was less obstructed, but not in front of all of their patrons.

So, long story long, we asked the bar manager why one person overrides 12, and he said that the TV in front of us is linked to the one at the bar in front of the guy who wanted to watch tulsa. Bull Shti...

So that place can go f itself, never go there.

A first string touchdown
Celebration leaves me sore
Cindy, I need rest

Cricket nice pulls.

Skins looked good last night. JC looked very confortable out there.

What I liked best he was hitting his second and third option in Cooley and Sellers.

What I don't like is he was hitting his second and third recievers.....hopefully our WR's can get open more often like ARE did on the TD.

Those Dink and Dunk will serve us fine provided our running game takes off. Gibbs cut his teeth with power running and short passes then bombs over the top when the D cheated.

Oh man, three and out then TD got me fired up.... Now for the games that count.

Brunell, fighting for the No. 2 quarterback job, was the subject of an inquiry by the Seattle Seahawks on Thursday, sources said, but no deal was completed after Washington's 31-14 loss to the Jaguars at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium. The Redskins could still deal him with roster cuts looming Saturday -- Atlanta expressed some interest weeks ago -- although the market for the 36-year-old is not deep.

MMMM. LOL

mike golic needs to be fired immediatley. He is the absolute worst in the history of TV or radio, the worst.

F Mike & Mike...worst hosts EVA!

If they hate us we must be destined for great things.

Mike Golic is an embarrassment to his much cooler bro, Bob Golic...

ESPN has so jumped the shark!

Love ESPN giving us some justice this morning showing only Campbell's 5 passes as the highlights in a loss.

Also love the positive comments on here with the exception of fake Palmer's play and periculum. Seriously can his IP address be banned with the others. Nothing to do with playing the game or not.

Looks like we got a franchise QB. This is the best I have felt about going into a season in quite some time.

HTTR.

From Tom Boswell's column: "With one sweet, eight-play, 70-yard touchdown drive on their first possession, the Redskins planted the seed of hope. It doesn't take much, does it?" So true!

on a scale oe 1 to 10, how bad is Palmer, i mean seriously. i don't care if he is a rookie, that was pathetic. And who in the skins org. thinks bramlett isn't better than that??????????

CL,

Couldn't agree with you more about ESPN. I remember loving ESPN in college. Now it's ETFM--Entertainment Tonight For Men.

Just checked the highlights on NFL.com. Does anyone know who the CB was that got burned on Reggie Williams TD toward the end of the 1st half. Looked like Westbrook but was tough to catch. Is Ryan Hoag the 5th WR with the TD catch?

Now it's ETFM--Entertainment Tonight For Men.

LMGO!

ESPN is way lame...except PTI of course...

But I will admit to loving Bronx is Burning this summer...

Jason,

After last night, we sure could use some investig