missing one tackle is not a reason to cut a player.

Why do amateur writers feel the need to riddle their works with clichés? As a reader, it really turns me off.

We couldn't afford Dock and we couldn't afford Pierce. Pierce has had his moments with the Giants, but he's overpaid. And Dock will never be worthwhat Buffalo paid him. Time to move on. Neither signing "haunted" us.

JM220 - I am about to send you an email.

4-12 - Same

Can Clinton Portis show the burst he once had?

It was his shoulder not his legs.

Every year around this time I go to Game Stop to pick up the Madden video game and build the Redskins to an 11 and 5 team

Maybe that's why you came up with some of these questions because you think the game is real. No way in SJK do you pay Dockery that type of money. You along with everyone else here would have raised hell.

Sheesh and you guys complain about me and my predictions that Brunell may be headed to the falcs.

Look they just cut Lemar Marshall. Lemar Marshall remember him? They are serious as a heart attack about making a run this year. The defense looks like it could be special. Both Joe Gibbs and Jason's sources agree that the special teams are going to be really special. So special that guys the skins cut are likely to catch on quickly elsewhere.

SO WHAT EXACTLY is Joe Gibbs doing wrong? He hired Saunders because everyone claimed he was "outdated" yet his offense was more successful. It also won more than one superbowl. How many has Al Saunders won?

YEAH the offense has problems. BUT guess what. Ramsey is a backup in Denver and Gibbs finally found a starter for the team. Yes wide receiver is a problem. And the hole at guard is glaring. But they do have a running tandem and a decent tight end.

And in the end championship teams are built starting with the defense. Just ask Jasno's favorite team, the Ravens. So, the defense had to be addressed immediately with whatever few draft picks they still had. And it was.

And Gibbs is an offensive guy remember? Yet he drafted for defense? Sheesh. You got 2 out of 3 firing on all cylinders. Let's be a little patient here.

root for the uniforms, now if they can just show renaldo wynn the door.

Great to see another ex-Cowboy in the house, right jm, 4th, 4-12!

JM, you actually lose at Madden? I just hit the reset button.

with news flying fast and furious....is this really the time for another RAMBLING GUEST BLOG......jeesh..

People are wayyyyyy overreacting to cutting Marshall....

I'm pretty sure Lemar's base salary was about $1 million for '07, so that would be the savings. I'm rusty on my capology...still in preseason mode with that.

Thx for taking the time to summarize, though I think the majority of concerns are on offense at this point (save for the Marshall release). Wow, also surprised by them letting LM go- I hope MW can hold up and Blades is showing some serious progress; I also REALLY hope that this is clearing some room for OLine help.

Jason- any word on Betts and his attempts at not fumbling?

If i here that Todd "I got cut by the Texans" Wade is better than Jon "Longest Tenured Redskin" Jansen my head is going to explode. IT IS PRESEASON. Jansen, as any experienced veteran knows that. The starters are not gonna risk hurting themselves right not because these are EXHIBITION games.

Periculum

Its an offensive league... this team will go as far as the offense takes it...i agree that it looks like our defense could be good maybe very good and we will play very well on special teams thats enough to stay in games but to get over the top two things need to happen... scoring and creating turnovers... take the ball away and capitalize...we do that and we could have something.

Tommy - While you make some valid points I personally am not going down that road in the preseason. The D is looking good so far and the offense may come around once Samuels returns so unless/until they stink up the regular season I will remain blissfully optimistic/naïve/ignorant/you name it.

Also, as I recall, under Gibbs 1.0 the running game always seemed to struggle in the preseason and then turned it on when the games counted.

From Redskins.com:
The Redskins have also signed wide receiver Jerel Myers, who played in the Arena League with the Kansas City Brigade last year. He spent time on the Buffalo Bills' practice squad in 2003-04.

Myers was coached by Redskins' wide receivers coach Stan Hixon at LSU.
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Are they truly that desperate for bodies at WR?

C-2 I haven't picked up Madden 08 yet. Been playing Dragonball Z and Tiger Woods. (I love the Wii)

I will be waiting for the e mail 4th. Smack are you starting today. lol

periculum,

Nice post. If there has to be another "guest blog" maybe you should write it.

Lemar Marshall is 31 years old. I, for one, am happy to see him replaced by some young guys. I wish we could get younger at every position (except safety, of course).

Marshall's cap number is $1.182M, $1M in base salary. If cap savings was the point, I think there were other decisions they could've made.
I can't say I understand the move, but Marshall is undersized for an LB and did seem to struggle with making tackles the last couple of weeks. The only thing I can guess is that he's been passed by Campbell, Blades and Sartz and the numbers at LB finally caught up with him. That doesn't hold much water if they signed Godfrey, tho.

4-12,

Signing Todd Pinkston was desperation. This guy from the Arena League, he's just a long-shot. I predict that, in the end, they get a receiver off someone's waiver list.

Ok here we go, Dockery was not worth the money Buffalo gave him. We will use the best patch guard on the roster and maybe pickup a guard at"cut time". Todd Wade for Jon Jansen...are you insane! Jansen is the "rock" for a reason.Carlos will widen his fingers and catch some picks. Expect a better year from Brandon Lloyd and don't forget Thrash and Pinkston. We will get one more year out of Collins and Brunell. Andre Carter will play like a freak and Marcus will get sacks while Daniels occupies blockers. Portis will be just as good as he was in 2005, even more so with Betts looking for more carries. This teams will be 9-7 and Gibbs wil step down from a hard season and expect Cowher to be brought in by Snyder.

Ok fans, hang in there and don't be so critical. Remember we have the Eagles and Cowboys to beat out as well; not an easy task for a 5-11 team a year ago.

The 'skins are not picking up WRs to find a #2 receiver. They just need bodies to throw out there in the last two preseason games. Moss, Lloyd, ARE, Thrash, and one guy who can make tackles on specials with potential.

Maybe they're getting ready to unload a pricey, non-productive receiver too?

I want my NFL 2K series back!! All-Pro is good, but I don't want a made up team of has beens - I want to play the games w/ my Skiins!

I'm gettin' all tingly. did the new linebacker sign for league minimum? .. I would think so.

Jansen is overrated and was a turnstile at times last season. He was outplayed by Wade last year. He was a Pro Bowl caliber before that so not sure what happened. No one calls him out because he's a 'core Redskin'. I'm calling him out. Dock had to go...too much money. We should have resigned him last year before he came free. Marshall and Holdman were among the worst in the league last year. Good riddance. Maybe Marshall was out of position but that's not my problem. At MLB, he was horrible.

Does Godfrey by chance have the ability toe rush the passer better than Lemar Marshall... OR is he better suited to fill in at Strong Side LB when Marcus plays out of the 3 pt stance as a DE...

JLC - what is the thought behind this move... Give us the scoop bro...

I guess starting the season 3-0 during the playoff run of 2005 doesn't qualify as starting stong. Apparently, we haven't "started strong" in several years.

Re-signing Dock for the insane amount of money that Buffalo gave him would have been, uh, let's see here....insane. Cutting Jansen for a Wade, who looked good at times but got a tremendous amount of help in blocking schemes last year, would fall in the "I'll light you on fire category".

Where's the gatekeeping on these guest blogs?

Whoa. For a second there, I thought Les Carpenter was writing blogs here...

I think the Skins wanted to upgrade with Godfrey (who, I agree is an upgrade) and they had to decide who to release. The best answer for the future of this franchise was Marshall. His release is exactly what good teams do...draft young and replace mediocre old veterans.

Teams like Philly and New England do this all of the time. They hear it from the fans right up until the point they have another 10-13 win season. I for one see this, along with keeping both Golston and Montgomery last year, as a positive trend.

Is anyone going ask if Jason Campbell is going to wear a knee brace? If he was wearing it he wouldnt have been injured in the first place. AsK Daute Culpepper, Carlson Palmer, and Donavan what they think about the knee brace.

Mark,
Todd Wade did play very well last year in place of Jansen last season, but you cant honestly say he is better than Jansen. I would understand the argument to replace Jansen if Wade was an up and coming young tackle, but he is not. He is a journeyman who has bounced around because he is inconsistent. Jansen is the Rock and has been the leader of the O Line since he was drafted. Samuels is the talent of the O Line but Jansen is the heart.

Godfrey played for double G in Tenny town.

Dik,
Try this link for places to watch in MIAMI:
http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToWatch.php#Florida

Marshall was dead weight. What was he going to bring to the team this year?? Any word on attitude issues with him losing his starting spot? Maybe he was not taking the demotion well and causing problems internally...

Week 12 Raiders W 21-14 13 12 1 1.0 5.0

Godfrey's stats against the Raiders in week 12 last year. 13 tackles, 12 solo and a sack.

Question 7 - Why do the guest blogs pretty much sum up everyones statements without adding any depth or insight?

I'm not drinking the Tommy hatorade, just more a question/comment about how the blog "hits" me sometimes. Its very "regurgitated."

Now I'm going to go drown myself.

Why don't guys like this go post at extremeskins- where even a thread this rudimentary will draw criticism- and let this blog actually be dedicated to actual news and insight. Just an opinion.

Lemar was not Wilbur.

Now I'm going to go drown myself.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | August 21, 2007 12:59 PM

...in Tommy hatorade.

releasing former starter Lemar Marshall, the team's leader in total tackles over the past two years.

Godfrey, 34 and a veteran of 11 seasons, is joining his fifth different franchise.

Not sure this was really a smart move. Maybe if he was younger.

Wow, that's some low-quality, amateurish writing. Actually makes Jason look good by comparison!

Hmmmm.

While I find it hard to believe that there is NOTHING for Jason to write about the Redskins at this very moment, why do the powers that be at WP.com continue to allow this blog to be written by amateurs? If you want the world to hear your opinion or "insight", create a personal blog or post on extremeskins and stop trying to show us how smart you are about football.

This is the ONLY blog at WP.com that with contributions, not comments, from the peanut gallery and it is becoming a joke. Frankly, too much of RI is spent hearing about Jason's family, vacation, soccer, beer, and social gatherings. The personal stuff is nice filler, but the blog is about the REDSKINS. If you want to ramble on, get Marc Fisher's job!

Jm220 go read the stat line...Godfrey is a quality LB depth...

Lemar starting LB on league worst D

Godfrey starting LB on league top ranked D...

as stan lee would say...nuff said...

Lemar was the quintessential "guy of the street" that GG and Dale Lindsay paraded around as their system guys....

Godrey has an 11 year pedigree as a starter with decent career stats...

Have to agree with CL, the guest blog was poorly timed and rehashed shti we already know up here.

*yawn*

Back to trades and injuries please.

F you CL!!!!!!

The guy is 34 years old. I just think if we going to pick somone up he should be younger than 34.

The RI blog is mostly very good...even when I disagree with JLC (yesterday's OL blog). Yes, this one from Tommy was a waste (sorry Tommy). However, if you don't like it, just go to the Lemar Marshall or Mark Brunell blogs that were posted late yesterday or today and comment there. It's not like you didn't get news today...geesh.

Well said, Lester.

The guest blogs ("glogs"?) were supposed to be RI fodder between February and July.

No more Glogs, please.

Godfrey was not resigned by Chargers (that says something).

Marshall was a starter when the Skins had top-5 defenses two and three years ago.

Lester Burnham,
Uh, hello. This is Jason's blog, really.

Jason does it cause he wants to, not because the Post has decreed it or has made it a part of his job description. My understanding is that he does it in addition to all his beat reporting and the his editor Cindy helps support the blog too.

Your opinions about what this blog is about are always welcome. Thanks.

Lester - Jason does this blog on his own time, the wapo paper is his job not the blog.

F JLC!!!

I am just bored at work and want to go to the gym. Sorry. F the FCC! Now that's better.

maybe they could have traded marshall for something? Maybe they could have picked an O-lineman in the draft instead of more linebackers. Maybe they could trade brunell for an 8th round pick. Maybe they will be 8-8 this year.

Let us see how the season plays out. Then we'll have the whole offseason to say "told ya!"

Also, to the comment that "it was not my fault" Marshall was playing out of position at MLB...We ask players all of the time to "take one for the team" and take a role which is best for the team even though it is not best for them individually.

When Snyder was too cheap to pay for Pierce (don't give me that "there was no cap space." whehn has that ever stopped us?), Marshall was willing to play out of position for the team. In fact, he played well the first season when the D seemed not to miss a beat. It is stupid to say "he is not good at MLB." No crap, that isn't his position.

#98's 2005 highlight reel:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/471907/2005_lemar_marshall_highlights/

It's 2007, not 2005. In the NFL, what have you done for me lately?

Running across the blog yelling "I am not crazy"

Wow anyone can write a guest blog it seems. We haven't started strong for the past few seasons? Have you already forgotten our 3-0 start in 2005? Amateur.

Wow, 1st Tommy hatorade & now Jasno hatorade...it's getting deep in here. Why don't you guys go blow off some steam on Madden '08...the season will be here soon enough and then we can all make comments on real issues pertaining to the Redskins and not just the hypothetical.

At least you got clothes on this time jm220.

just for 4-12. Looking around to make sure my boss isn't looking. Just joking. lol

Lemar Marshall had ....drum roll, major injuries after his tackle leading performances on top 5 defenses. Get some Ginkobuloba Jm & BT, seriously. He got run over post injuries, knees and shoulders if I remember correctly, and was never the same player. Sad but true.

They moved him to the middle because his wheels were lacking and he stunk up the joint, on one game where the Skins D gave up like 245 yards last season on the ground he had no solo tackles. His days were over.

No wheels, no shoulder, no run stuff no slot on the squad...

and now for something completely different

Here is a rough draft of the SCSkinsFan Glog (JLC will probably post this later today):

Let's rehash what we already know about our beloved 'Skins, because it is way more fun to write a glog than cutting the grass or balancing the checkbook:

First, we all KNOW that the DANNY BOY cares more about his checkbook than ... blah blah blah

Second, Gibbs should stick to coaching and blah blah blah

Third, Grilliams is the worst coach to ever (continue hyperbole here)...

Fourth, Al Saunders and is 700-page play book need to blah blah

Fifth, this is a 5 and 11 team that needs a GM and... *zzzzzzz*

a man with three buttocks

What's a "fartsriker"?

DTC my main problem isn't that they let him go. But they brought in somone old. 34 with 11 years is old for a LB. We have enough old players.

Oops. "Farstriker". Nevermind. Damn these new glasses.

gee, thanks, that's very sensitive. 'fartstriker'--ha.

"farstriker" is one of the epithets of the Greek god Apollo, the archer

I just like it

News flash...it's not a big deal that we dropped LM or picked up Godfrey. It's a minor roster tweak that will hopefully improve us marginally in the near term. I would think that Godfrey adds a speed dimension that LM doesn't have however.

Ah it's so easy to play skins GM and claim we'd *never* make the wrong moves.

Dock was a beast - at times, but that was truely mad money he got, and for once I applaud the team's fiscal responsibility. The only negative is the Todd Wade experiment may take 3-4 games for a verdict, and that is tough w/ a hobbled QB.

I am guessing coach Joe will say that Godfrey is solid backup at SLB and a need, given Marcus W's injury, and letting Lemar go now gives him a better chance to fight for a starting job somewhere. I'm guessing Nolan in SF or possibly the Iggles may take a look at him.

lol Farstriker. I did a double take when I saw the name, but had already hit send.

but jm, we have only one old LB -- Fletcher -- everyone else is under 30, and surely we can have one older guy for one year if he's an upgrade (and not too expensive).
My recollection is that he was released because his cap number was pretty high and they had a young guy they wanted to get in there.

The issue with Dockery and Pierce is the same as it was with Bailey, Clark and others and that is the team waits until the players' walk year before earnestly negotiating with them. Then the team and fans are surprised when other teams come in and sign them for what is viewed as 'ridiculous' money. The bottom line is that we are paying the price today for all of the trades of the past few years. It's hard to develop depth in the offensive line when you don't pick in rounds 2-4. That's how you end up with an undrafted FA starting at tackle and a journeyman at guard. And, for anyone saying that it's just the preseason and we shouldn't worry about the offensive line that's just crazy. When, exactly, is the line supposed to develop continuity and consistency. We have the Dolphins and Eagles in the first two weeks and I would argue that right now both of their D-lines are better than our O-line. Fortunately, the Dolphins are terrible on offensive...but, we're going to have a real problem competing with the Eagles as things stand today.

The skins released a backup linebacker(at best anymore) and signed another backup(who despite his age has more upside for this season.) If Lemar was named a starting lb, not one person here would be happy with that decision. It is a good move.

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

oops oops oops

Dockery was way over paid in buffalo, out of all of the lineman I would rather lose Dockery. My question is why does Ranoldo Wynn make the team every year? This guy contunies to fly under the rador and make money! The skins need to start thinking about signing Cooley for a long term deal, he is a fan favorite and a top 5 Tight end in the NFL, something we havent had since? The skins need a GM, because it always seems like the fans know what to do a little bit more then Snyders frat buddy Vinny.

Now's the time to get handle on pass protection - NFL.com

Preseason protection:

Team Pass plays, Sacks, Sacks/Att
Washington 61, 8, 1/7.6

Hey, I was leading the 'Jon Jansen is a Pro Bowl caliber right tackle' parade a couple years ago. Being honest, he fell off. Maybe Wade isn't the answer in his place. All i know is that we should be fairly evaluating guys and the best 5 should be starting regardless of loyalties or reputations. If Heyer is better than Jansen, he oughtta be at right tackle. (don't know if he plays that side). I think the Skins get caught up sometimes with loyalty and don't look at performance. ALL personnel decisions should be based on what's happening on the field.
What I saw last year was Wade playing better than Jansen. I also saw a huge drop in our linebacker play. I saw a suggestion somewhere about moving Jansen inside and playing Wade at RT. I don't care. I just want the best 5 out there. Marshall and Holdman were bad. They had to go. Even Rocky would have been better than Holdman last year. I'd rather see a guy run the wrong way occasionally and makes some plays than see a guy in position every time yet rarely make a play.

OK, I accept that Jason writes the blog on his own time without any additional compensation or support from WaPo or WaPO.com. Early on, the blog seemed to nearly 100% Grade A Redskins stuff - the Morton's Angus beef of Redskins talk. Now, however, it like a McDonald's hamburger: some beef combined with floor sweepings and offal.

Rather than deceiving the reading public, maybe the name of the blog should be "Jason's Thoughts" or "Jason Shares His World and Talks About the Redskins (sometimes)" or "Jason and Friends Ramble on About Stuff". I don't think that it is too unreasonable.

I am not a hater and come to RI to find stuff that is not filtered like what I hear coming from Ashburn.

i can't believe you guys are mad over releasing lamar. seriously?

farstriker, thanks for Inside Man fill...i didn't see it until a day later.

That was lame... Don't quit your day job dude!

I don't remember Wade playing at all last year. Wasn't one of the remarkable things about the OLine last year that they didn't miss any starts or had the healthiest line of any line last year. When did he play?

LB can you answer a question for me? If you are that unhappy with JLC and the job that he is doing. Why come here? I really don't get it when people come SJK about the blog. If I don't like something why in God's green earth am i going to continue to stay.

BT, If your plumber tried to do your electrical work and screwed it up, would you say, "it's not his fault, he was trying to fill in for the electrician so their company wouldn't lose the business?" NO. No one cares that Marshall played out of position or that he took one for the team. He was subpar. Period. If anyone besides marshall is to blame, it should be Lindsey or management for not having a guy who played MLB on the team. Bottom line is that he was no good in there. Also, when our D was top rated a few years back, Marshall was certainly NOT the reason. In fact, he was the weakest link at LB.

Guest Blogger writes: "Could we have severed ties with Jansen knowing he has declined"

HAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!!! this stuff always cracks me up. You guys don't even realize the power that the media has over you. You are brainwashed. You keep reading La Canfora's claim that Jansen "requires help" at tackle, but it's simply a myth because for some odd reason JLC feels like spreading this nonsense around.

Jon Jansen is one of the best starting tackles in the NFL. Anyone who believes he is "declining" is either A) brainwashed by shoddy reporters or B) Blind.

Mark... You said it!

"Even Rocky would have been better than Holdman last year. I'd rather see a guy run the wrong way occasionally and makes some plays than see a guy in position every time yet rarely make a play."

I never understood this... Rocky should have started much sooner than the last 2 games... Holdman was horrid and it's not like we didn't give anything up for Rocky, I thought he showed flashes of brilliams nad ST's and thought for sure he contribute more to the LB corp last season... Maybe GW has learned a few things and more apt to play the young guys sooner,,, IE - L2, possibly Blades and Sartz...

Guest Blogger writes: "Could we have severed ties with Jansen knowing he has declined"

HAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!!! this stuff always cracks me up. You guys don't even realize the power that the media has over you. You are brainwashed. You keep reading La Canfora's claim that Jansen "requires help" at tackle, but it's simply a myth because for some odd reason JLC feels like spreading this nonsense around.

Jon Jansen is one of the best starting tackles in the NFL. Anyone who believes he is "declining" is either A) brainwashed by shoddy reporters or B) Blind.

Skins started 3-0 in 2005. But I'll let you call it a slow start if it helps you make you point.

Dockery worshipers should wake up. There was talk about replacing him for a couple of years. He was pretty much a lumbering goon until his contract year. He had one good season and isn't doing very well yet in Buffalo. Jansen hasn't played poorly, he just hasn't played great. I'm convinced he'll be fine. Lemar Marshall was rumored to have attitude problems after being replaced at MLB and being passed over for Rocky @ OLB. He isn't very fast but was a decent depth player. I'm pretty sure Godfrey played for GW @ TN and should know the system. He's there to compete for a b/u job w/the young guys. It'll play itself out. I don't know which game the Guest Blogger was watching but the game I watched showed a Redskins offense that had a rythm and moved the ball well. The passing game looked very good. The running game will improve when Samuels and Portis are playing along with more time for Betts.

I can't type worth a SJK!

You really need at least 3 games to show a statistical trend (and the Steelers and Saints already have 3), but things could still be better on the offensive side of the ball after 2 weeks.

Redkins offense:

PPG - 30th (12)
Yards rushing - 31st (60 Yds/G)
Average rush - 30th (2.4)
Passing yards - 23rd (160 Yds/G)
Sacks allowed - 27th (8)
Yards per play - 32nd (4)

Let's face it, the real discussion here should be the 'Skins lack of production in the red zone.

Farstriker is an 11th level Paladin w/ +20 melee when using bow.

[:-|

First of all, Derrick Dockery isn't worth $49 million. That's Steve Hutchinson money, and he's no Hutchinson. Other league observers thought he got too much money.

Second, CP is valuable to the Skins. The team is 12-2 when he rushes for over 100 yards. Also, he plays with injury, and is a better blocker and ball protector than Betts.

Daniels is washed up and Carter should be better this year. But he can't play against the run.

I think Lloyd will have a better year. After all it can't get worse than last year. Randle-El is what he is: a mulit-dimensional guy who got too much money. But I still like him.

As for the draft, they would've drafted a lineman, if they weren't missing 3 picks. O-lineman weren't deep in this draft, it was very weak. I like HB Blades, I think he can be future starter.

As for the video game--get real. I could be the Cleveland Browns and start Charlie Frye at QB, and Brady Quinn at WR, and still win the Super Bowl. Which reminds me, I need to get the game.

these guest posts are so stupid and uninforming, whay do they keep appearing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070820/od_afp/entertainmentbritain;_ylt=AmknuArGHP.PeM2scCmd1ees0NUE

Dik -- some cornball D&D character re-purposed the name, what can I say.

The true farstriker--god of medicine, light, truth, and, ahem, plague--is a deity, Apollo, nothing more and nothing less.

Artistic renderings of him tend to resemble #21, but I expect his true namesake on the team will be shown this season (hopefully during the first Dallas game) to be #17.

F the glogs (SjK)

23strdteenth!!!

btw, 'glog' is the best coinage of the day, nu2me at least. Did SCSkinsFan invent it? If so, kudos, SC.

Trade Boonell for a dozen new footballs and use the $2MM in cap savings to get Cooley's extension done.

Do it now.

Go.

DJ speaks the truth about Dockery. And, about Pierce -- as I recall it he only started one year for the Redskins and he had a breakout year. The idea that we would have signed either based on their performance before their contract year is simply foolish.

These guys weren't Cooley or Reaper. They were men who matured in the Redskins system, and left for bigger money elsewhere. In Pierce's case, the 'Skins made him a competitive offer, but he opted to leave for another five percent that the Giants gave him, and he hasn't played as well for the Giants as he did for the Skins. I've got to believe that Pierce (like Smoot) regrets the decision to leave.

Before we crucify Tommy, these issues were talked about a couple of months ago, so he may be new.

Many questions abound Tommy, I guess at this point the first and foremost is the results of Saturdays game and the recent signings/releasings

ITA

JLC,

Please find guest bloggers with the ability to write coherent, complete sentences, not rambling, labyrinthine passages like this one as I attempt to prove a point about how giving the inarticulate access to your blog is a waste of your reader's time, unless the point of having Tommy guest blog was to have us decipher sentences like this one: "Even thou Todd Collins looks good in pre-season, he has not thrown a pass in the league since his boy, Thurman Thomas, was playing and he just gave his Hall of Fame speech and having Mark Brunell in the quarterback shuffle - who looks like he lost more than 10 steps is another loyalty decision by Gibbs", in which case you would have succeeded.

Thank you!!

Zebra, I dont think that were bashing Tommy. I just saying that anyone of us could have written it, and we've made those points a 1000 times..

To date, farstriker, I have used "flog" (fake blog) and "glog" (guest blog) up here in the RI.

Never seen them before, but they are probably out there somewhere on the interwebs.

Check and mate KK;

We cannot expect the FO to correct all mistakes at once... but it seems that they are letting JC be the QB which was in question mid-season last year.

THe defense is back to being what we thought it could be, or at least it is shaping up that way. L2 looks like a great choice over Adams and whoever else isnt making an noise this preseason.

CP is staying out of preseason just like LT, LJ, and other stud runners.

B lloyd made a great move to get open... that is major progress for him.

We kept #52 and he is playing like a beast

We ended the archibingus

So those are all good things, so we have a problem along the o line. And we need to sign cooley. If JC comes back by week one healthy, then I say we are much beeter shape than last year at htis time.

Progress is progress, lets have some patience and cheer for our team to get better

Q8- What is a horse-shoe?
Q9-Are there any horse-socks?
Q10-Is anybody listening to me?

Mark - That is an stupid comparison.

Really, I would figure that a player that has 100+ tackles the past two years just MIGHT have a little bit to do with their success.

First, I would like to thank Tommy who, for his efforts, got us started on a new thread, which means the screen refreshes more quickly when hitting F5. Thank you, Tommy. [Booooo to Tommy critics who don't try to do him one better.]

Second, how has THIS information not dominated conversation today?

"- Keep a close eye on Niners fifth-year WR Taylor Jacobs, who has been on the field a lot in three-WR sets and is a real favorite of WR coach Jerry Sullivan. We're told Jacobs had an outstanding training camp. The former Redskins second-round pick always has possessed great athleticism and could end up being a very intriguing late bloomer."

Posted by: kost52 | August 20, 2007 10:17 PM

Are you KIDDING ME? Taylor Jacobs!?!?! I will boo him till my throat is sore and never regret his departure (Walt Harris, Antonio Pierce, and others notwithstanding). Niners just need to wait till the REGULAR season.

The other bit from kost52 was about how Pork Chop Womack might not make the cut. I say SIGN him! I don't care how badly he is performing for someone else. He will be deeply loved if he can come in and solve our OG woes. [Also heard that Mulitalo might face being a #3 OG, so maybe even TRADE for him!]

On Lemar Marshall, I am wistful ... like I am every time they cut another Michigan State Spartan (first Whitticker, then Kyle Brown, now Lemar). My theory is that SOMEONE needed to be a scapegoat for last year and firing the LB coach alone was not enough. Marshall had a crappy game against the Steelers; I'm guessing his mental game had been at an all-time low in camp. Made him a natural for Grilliams' doghouse. Adios amigo, good luck. For those who say Godrey is a "solid" guy who "knows Grilliams' system from Tennessee ... Marshall is a solid guy who knows Grilliams' system in Washington. Btwn Godfrey and Fletcher, the Skins are reloading with MUCH older guys. In the last thread, someone said Marshall was in his "twilight". BS. He will catch on elsewhere and should be starting there before the season is out.

GODFREY DANIELS! One is an LB. One is a DE. These two words are how my dad swears. Sounds more sophisticated and less Mayberry than Gosh Darn It and does not require the SJK. I always knew what the [sjk] he was saying.

Speaking of Mayberry, where is Nate? Lots of new posters over the past 72 hours and no one has rolled out the welcome wagon. Anyway, till he gets here, welcome!

People, J-La is always going to report the negative. He is not a skins fan, and appears to be an anti-skins fan, which is some ways is good, but he is about as fair and balanced as Fox News.

The truth is, negativity is what sells in the news biz, and us readers have nobody to blame but ourselves. So I don't blame Jason for sometimes going out of his way to say something bad about the skins.

But in reality, this has been the most positive off season since Gibbs took over. Much more positive than negative, so let's just be happy that we are taking steps in the right direction.
Are we a legit superbowl contender? Nope.
Are we the worst team in the NFL as J-La portends?
Nope.

We are just like the majority of teams in the watered down free agency era of the NFL. We could go 6-10 or 10-6, it all depends on one or two plays a game. That's it. So just sit back and enjoy watching football this year and let go of all the preseason paranoia. It only feeds the beast.

but he is about as fair and balanced as Fox News

LMGO

Good point diesel;

And DMAN, people are blasting the guest poster... and it strikes me as ironic that some lurker can post whatever he wants about Tommys post, uncensored for the most part by WAPO, but expects for Tommys post to be censored and not allowed per his uncensored opinion.

Kind of like the blind leading the blind... doesnt make mucb sense now does it

Also, on the JLaC hating, lighten up. He starts new threads, often with intriguing insights and before the content has been digested by editors. LOTS of other RI peeps bring in new content. JLaC is one of RI peeps (and happens to be the only one with his picture on the top), but this blog was hijacked by its readers LONG ago. Save the expert journalistic critique for class. Come correct with something NEW to talk about -- Carping about JLaC has been done before -- and make sure your something new is interesting. The RI bloggers have the attention span of a hamster on ... [you know the rest].

"Kind of like the blind leading the blind ..."

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 03:10 PM

I had a prof once who forgot her glasses and the microphone for the lecturn. Kind of like the blind leading the deaf.

Check out the headline... who knew jm220 had a sister in Des Moines.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070820/NEWS/70820002/1

sween,

I say good for Taylor Jacobs if he can find a job. The job will only last, though, until he's injured and that should be within the next two or three days. "Oooh, there goes my leg again."

He will surely be bye-bye before the bye week. Looks like the niners got the best of that trade -- wasn't that how we got our Rumpf?

4-12; you had to make that up, right? tell us you are a writer for the register... eerie how far the blog karma reaches....

funny sween

Pierce was a great fit for the Skins Def, but this one is on Williams, thinking He (Williams) is smarter -- well, now comes in Fletcher (great player), but we had one in Pierce! -2 to the Skins

The OL needs to be more complete, we are not at full strenght, in the season, those missed assignments will have someone on them, so the defender CAN'T run wid at our QB! Dockery is overpaid, not a wise move to keep him! +1 to the Skins!

I agree we should ahve taken a OL during that one draft you referenced, but we didn't! -1 Skins

Can everyone get off Portis, everyone thinks he is injury prone, giv me a break, he is still youthful nda will have a banner year - we are doing to him that the Chargers do to LT, NO Playing in the Pre-Season - you mean more to un DURING the Season! +2 Skins

The chosing of Jason Cambell was huge, thi kid has what it takes, that lst game last year showed what he was made of, getting of the turf in the 1st half and coming back in the 2nd to fight, great pick - he will prove to be a better QB than Eli Manning - hands down!! +2 Skins!

Gibbs will turn this thing around here this year, everything does seem better, the Def is back on track adn the Offense will get healthly, I am looking for 21-16 games with us on the winning side, so 10-6 is not unthinkable this season adn the playoff's again, I love the Laundry pik, he is a player, let's hope Taylor has grown up and can hold his own, otherwise Laundry can not make up for Taylor's misgivings - +1 Skins

+3 to the Skins means more wins baby adn that is all we are asking for here!

Enough already - let's kick off the new season!

KK, yes, even though my throat is sore from booing him (and people in my office look at me with very confused looks on their faces), I wish Taylor Jacobs all the best, esp. with a newborn.

There is something I really don't understand about the Lemar Marshall/Randall Godfrey decisions. Why now? The 75 man roster cut is in a week (next Tuesday, the 28th) and the 53 man cut is next Saturday, the 1st. Why cut Marshall now? Godfrey was an unsigned free agent. Why sign him TODAY? Something weird here, just can't figure out what.

Or the blind leading those who can see. This is amazing.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_232194348.html

4-12 LMGO!! That's why you are the man.

if jansen is so good why has he never even been a pro bowl alternate? the guy is only considered good by the clueless, blindly optimistic redskins fans who would also tell you that santana moss is a #1 reciever, sean taylor is a top 5 safety and thet joe gibbs is a competant head coach. You guys need to step back and take a much more realistic and unbiased view of things

Recognizing I'm about 8 months too early on this, I think the Skins top need in the draft is at running back, esp. one who is willing to block like Portis, who does not have butterfingers like Betts, explodes after contact like Portis, and catch like Portis/Betts. Essentially, the Portis model in the 2008 edition.

DC, I hear ya, but you are wrong about Santana.. in this age of smaller recievers not being able to be manhandled by DB's... him and Steve smith are two of the most dangerous recievers in the NFL and he is definately a #1 on most teams in the nfl...

"... if jansen is so good why has he never even been a pro bowl alternate? .... "

Posted by: DC | August 21, 2007 03:28 PM

Because the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest?

I find it funny how redskins fans, coaches, players, etc talk about 2006 as a fluke and say they have to get back to "redskins football" whatever the hell that is.

I think the more logical explanation is that 2005 was the fluke and that the 2000-2004 when the redskins sucked every year and 2006 when they sucked again is what "true redskins football" is.

Until you guys have a new owner things will never get better, you will continue to squander draft picks, sign the big-name players and coaches that are either washed up or do not fit the offense/defensive systems.

People can point to this past off-season when lil danny used "restraint" but the only reason for that is he had no draft picks to trade and no salary cap space.

You can believe that if bug eyes cerrato and lil danny had the cap space and assets to trade that you would be seeing michael strahan, randy moss, joey porter, etc playing here this season

Tommy is a good kid, I fault Janso/Cyn Cyndy. This is simply not the day or time for this kind of glog. A day when cuts and signings are being made, the Vick stuff, Trotter rumors...no one wants to read a laundry list of crud we already know!!!!!!!!!

When I think glog I think weird topic, actuall expert fellow writer or maybe something fun. Like I got a glog in the pipeline that will BLOW YOU AWAY!!! Holding it for opening week. Its got audio, picture, old school memories, anti dallas and the text will be like 4 sentences max!!!

Also I believe Glogs should be reserved for Hamster Level ROers OR you should sign them with you handle...Tommy? Who is that, did he get his tonsiles out? (Bonus points if you get tyhe reference!

The O-line , oh the bloody O line. We take a few sacks in preseason and its the end of the world. WE DON"T HAVE SAMUELS IN....YOU IDIOTS. You put Samuels in with Pucillo, Rabach, Thomas and Jansen and 3 games into the season Portis will hit holes the size of some of your egos.

RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jerry Jones,

Two words: Terrell Owens.

cL, like ... um ... pucillo and heyer, i.e., The Replacements?

what about Terrell Owens?

Nice! DcSweeny My Man!

If you do not think Santana Moss is a #1 WR you do not know much about football. The only receiver better than him in the division is the malcontent SJKhole known as TO. Please don't tell me Plexiglass or Reggie Brown are better.

As far as Todd Wade goes, he played for the Texans who were known for getting David Carr battered on a weekly basis. He started the Saints game and filled in admirably for Jansen. Jansen may be starting the downslope of his career but I want to see how he fares come regular season before I start calling for journeyman Todd Wade.

cL, not really me (intentionally), but my sister loves all things Paul Westerberg so it was osmotic.

Jerry Jones at 3:43pm, if this were Jeopardy, you'd win the $600 square which reads "Keenan McCardell is the most over-the-hill-washed-up-still-trying WR in the NFL"

Jeff Wilson, you don't live in Charlottesville do you?

No why?

I do and I got a very good friend who lives in Cville named jeff wilson and is a skins fan, thought you might be him that's all.

And by the way, Samuels isn't going to be able to help Jansen or the running. He is a top 5 pass protector but he isn't going to help Pucillo/Wade/or whatever ham sandwich we sign off the trash pile be able to run block or stop DT's like Haynesworth from running over them. Samuels in there means JC's blind side is safer, that's it, he's not the cure all for the entire line.

This is the most inept sports blog in washingtonpost. The blogger cannot spell, is such a negative person, and is not even a 'Skins fan. Worst of all, he let amateur writers write stupid guest blog like this one. We want profesionally well-written inisder accounts, not junk like these !!!

C'mon, C Larry. You think you can sneak through a Replacements ref on this crew? Not today.

As for LeMar/Godfrey, I'll withhold judgement for a week or two, it seems to be a perplexing move, rather than tragically illogical, at least, on the surface.

I thought Jack said he wasn't coming back..

Oh, Goomba, aren't you getting your money's worth? I want a new Mercedes with pin stripes and a driver.

Whoops - time to go get my face simonized!

I bet you didn't know these plugs on my head are from my tushy, didya.

"Lemar starting LB on league worst D

Godfrey starting LB on league top ranked D..."

In spite of everything, his age, nagging injuries the guy had 4 sacks. FOUR. Thats almost more than this entire defense last year.
AND MOST of his tackles were unassisted. He sounds like a good sub for Marcus or Rocky should they need to go out.

As far as signing another receiver. THEY ONLY HAVE TWO at this point.

1. Santana Moss.
2. James Thrash.

The rest all pretty underachieved last year.

That is why I would be interested to see what they do IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. They could use a Gary Clark right about now.

Also, I think the blog has gone overboard on Jack. The guy can't catch a break and has been sufficiently chastised into discussing matters with a MUCH more reasonable tone. Props to Jack for his durability in the face of a blistering blog response that has made him the inadvertent effigy representing all negativers.

"DON"T HAVE SAMUELS IN....YOU IDIOTS. You put Samuels in with Pucillo, Rabach, Thomas and Jansen and 3 games into the season Portis will hit holes the size of some of your egos.

RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

AND YOU'LL HAVE 2, count 'em NOW. TWO HIGH QUALITY backups for Jasen and Samuels in Wade and Heyer.

" ... That is why I would be interested to see what they do IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. ...."

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 04:18 PM

Maybe that's what he sounds like, but he is one hit away from walking like another Christopher Reeves.

Sween,
Ok, but I missed the Redcoat shabingus.
Wha happened?

...IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. They could use a Gary Clark right about now.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 04:18 PM

A soon to be 34 year old running back with a bad neck. How's that like another Gary Clark (WR)?

Stumped, I remember some dustup, and then I read about how Redcoat was going to take a few days off, but beyond that I don't remember much -- you know, having the attention span of a hamster on the booger sugar and all.

I always get a kick out of it when the loyal JLaC followers come out and take offense to someone who critisizes this blog. They usually always come with the quote of "aren't you getting your moneys worth", "its a free blog", or my favorite "Jason does this for free and out of his own time".

Well, while people don't pay for this blog, make no mistake about it, the Washington Post makes money from it. Just look at this page as I'm typing. Across the top there is a Ford add and on the top right there is a Radio Shack/Sprint add. The more hits the website gets, the more money they are able to generate from the advertising on this site, thus the more money The Post makes, thus more money to pay Jason when his contract comes up for renewal. Do you think Cyn keeps track of the hit numbers for fun? And if Jason were able to get out of doing this blog, someone else would surely take his place.

Just as Jason can be critical of the team for issues he believes they've mistaken with, so too does every blogger have the right to be critical with Jason or the blog itself for posting a guest blog on a busy day as the season approaches or an incessant harping on an OL problem.

Sween,

The skins aren't signing "older guys" without cause. The release of Marshall effectively means they are happy enough with Dallas Sartz. They are very happy with HB Blades at middle linebacker. That's 2 young guys on special teams. There is still Khary Campbell the penultimate special team guy. So, really they are adding some experience along the lines of a Fletcher to help the younger guys along. There is Trucks and Jones as well.

Godfrey provides a bit of a transition for them. If Mac or Marcus Washington go out they know they can replace them with someone who can handle the pressure.

TheGuru10, yeah right ... and the next thing your gonna tell us is that Dan Snyder is making money off $9 beers, fan parking at training camp, and replica jerseys.

how "inside" is a guest blog by some schmo?

I didn't catch all of it but one day the insults we're a flyin' & Redcoat had enough...

I've caught a few in here, but no sweat off my back. s'just a blog & people bein'...people.

"Guys, Marshall will be 31 years old this season. He's not a young guy that you are developing. He's in the twilight of his career. ...."

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 01:10 PM

... which explains why he was cut in order to make room for Randall Godfrey.

On Godfrey:

San Diego decided to withdraw their free agent tender because they drafted his replacements. That's a really cocky head coach there ...
good ol' Norv. The guy had FOUR sacks. FOUR just last year and 59 tackles 49 unassisted. That is indeed an arrogant defense and coaching staff when you cut someone who had FOUR sacks.

Periculum...u rock dude

Yeah I would say 13 TDs and still being one of the 2 most feared recievers in the NFL makes him washed up. The redskins could use some washed up players like him since he caught more TDs last year than all of the recievers combined. Terry Glenn is another one that is washed up right?

Just because they play for the Cowboys doesn't mean you have to make silly comments like that.

I will give credit to the redskins that deserve it such as Samuels, MWashington, Springs, Cooley, Fletcher---all good players

Peri - who know's what he was going to count against SanD's cap this year...

TheGuru10, yeah right ... and the next thing your gonna tell us is that Dan Snyder is making money off $9 beers, fan parking at training camp, and replica jerseys.
Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:31 PM

What does that have to do with the Post making money on this blog? Of course Snyder is going to charge those things. I missed it, is there a team giving away free jerseys, free beer and free parking? He also puts that money back into the team. Now, if he does is correctly is a matter of opinion and I wouldn't argue that, but he does it. And b/c of that we all have the right to be critical of him for his management decisions. The same way we all have a right to be critical if The Post's blog content isn't something we like.

"Guys, Marshall will be 31 years old this season. He's not a young guy that you are developing. He's in the twilight of his career. ...."

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 01:10 PM

... which explains why he was cut in order to make room for Randall Godfrey.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:34 PM

He wasn't cut to make room for Godfrey. We needed depth at OLB regardless. Marshall played the last 2 years in the middle and wasn't showing the speed to get upfield or back into coverage at OLB. If you want to talk about making room for someone, Marshall was cut to make room for Blades. Marshall was peciled in at 2 on the depth chart at MLB. They saw something in Blades and Marshall wasn't going to stick around as the 3rd MLB that they couldn't move to the outside unless someone saw something I didn't out of Marshall at OLB in the 2 exhibition games to show me he could make the switch back outside.

Jerry Jones, agreed it was a silly comment. Sorry. Keenan McCardell was the only guy I could think of who was still playing and had been in the league as long as T.O. ... was looking for comparables. No one really compares to T.O., however, in dropping the balls thrown and general level of "self confidence" so years in the league was the best I could do.

sorry did someone say Priest Holmes is like Gary Clark? That is the most incomprehensible comment I've ever heard. Do like soccer and just pretend to watch football? How in the world is a short old running back anything like a fast, tall, skinny, WIDE RECEIVER? Notice I said WIDE RECEIVER cause they don't even play the same position...... also it was reported today that there is a 60-70% chance that Holmes sends the season on the IR, but nothing has ever been said about him being released and even if he was, he is a RUNNING BACK, and wouldn't help our WIDE RECEIVERS.

Terrel Owens, meet the Reaper.

...now that he doesn't have to worry about 'Deep Choke' Archu-tetas

"POSTED 3:12 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 3:59 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2007

CAT FIGHT IN NEW YORK

Giants quarterback Eli Manning, previously believed to have the personality of a mop bucket, apparently is changing.

And former teammate Tiki Barber could be the guy who brings it out of him.

During his Sunday night debut on NBC's football coverage, Tiki correctly questioned Eli's leadership skills, explaining that Eli was awkward and uncomfortable while addressing a room full of veterans such as Barber, Michael Strahan, and Jeremy Shockey.

Well, Eli has responded. It's not quite fire-and-brimstone material but, for Eli Milquetoast, it's a start:

"I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the season and [how] he's lost the heart," Manning said, according to Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger. "As a quarterback, you're reading your running back has lost the heart to play the game and it's about the 10th week. Well, I could see that a little bit at times."

Rrrrrowwww.

"

That's one team in dis-aray........

In San Diego's 3-4 D, Godfrey (and Donnie Edwards) were inside linebackers.

On the WaPo making money off the hits, I'm not sure I see your point about why that makes JLaC's typos/bias (still uncompensated) any more problematic.

Also, I think CynCyty does count the posts for fun ... that and because MV Dame does (for fun). Most of the late night blather to drive up the thread count is for fun. Also, until you mentioned it, I had no idea who the advertisers were. The RI bloggers don't really have the attention span for advertising (and the number of posts on any particular thread usually means the ads are only in the periphery of vision when you read the starting post).

sween- It looks like sarcasm is lost on he who calls himself guru.

jack- Yeah, I questioned periculum's Holmes=Clark statement earlier. Perhaps he was joking, and humor is lost on he who calls himself 4-12

I don't know how you compare Priest Holmes to Gary Clark either.

Although, Jack, Gary Clark was hardly a tall, skinny receiver. He was only about 5'9".

The more views and posts by JLaC = more chances of peolpe clicking on an ad.

I have clicked on maybe 2 ads since I have been here. Only because couriosity, though.

How long have blogs been around? I just found out about them last year.....

" been said about him being released and even if he was, he is a RUNNING BACK, and wouldn't help our WIDE RECEIVERS."

Dear SJK Jack.

What an SJK-ing idiot. GEE WHAT WAS ART MONK? A RECEIVER? No he was a running back at Syracuse. Who the SJK was Joe Washington. He caught a lot of passes for Joe Gibbs. AND that whole H-BACK concept where the SJK do you think that came from? Coverting fast backs in to receivers. AND since when was Gary Clark tall? He was shorter than Art Monk who just around SIX FOOT. Bobby Mitchell was a hall of fame running back who became a receiver.

LET'S SEE WHO WERE THE H-BACKS? Hmmm?

JOE SJK-ing Washington coming from the colts. (An HB originally.)
KELVIN SJK-ing BRYANT A RUNNING BACK!!!
There there came the more "traditional" H-BACK. Not really a
tight end, big enough to block so almost more of a running back.

The point is the guy knows the system. He made the system one one of the most productive in the NFL almost single handedly. I think he could come here and catch passes since that was his forte' in Kansas City.

every roster upgrade makes the team stronger even if its a move toward a reserve linebacker and keeping a younger backer or two along with... I agree with periculum on most things except his insistance on priest holmes becomming a wr... not happening

"On the WaPo making money off the hits, I'm not sure I see your point about why that makes JLaC's typos/bias (still uncompensated) any more problematic. "

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:51 PM

Your making my point. I have no problem with his bias or his typos(that people complain about that is ridiculous IMO but their right). What I do have a problem with is people chastising others if they don't agree with his "bias"/opinion and using the justification that he's doing it for free so you should just agree with him attitude. If he doesn't agree with the Skins he can comment on it. If we don't agree with him we can comment on it. That's what a blog is isn't it? Why should someone be told they shouldn't disagree with him or the blogs content?

I gotta get this off my chest. Journalists report on teams and they report what they see and what the evidence tells them will probably happen. They're not supposed to be fans or haters. I'm so tired of people jumping on J-La (and on me for that matter even though I'm not a journalist I am trying to be realistic about this team) for simply stating the obvious and what it likely means. That's not negativity, that's realism. What do you guys want? Just for J-la to say....."Ummm, another great practice today for the best team in football. Everybody looks great, the Skins look like they have the best players at every position and are shoe-ins to win the Super Bowl."

The fact is we're playing a kid at LT that not a single team in the league including us picked in the draft, wait maybe that was our strategy we knew he was so super talented that we didn't want to draft him so we could surprise everyone. Maybe he'll turn into a great player, maybe not, but I don't want him blocking the blind side of my young inexperienced anointed franchise QB after 1 freaking training camp going up against all the defensive line studs on the Redskins roster. And next to him we have a converted tackle who was cut by the Houston Texans, that's right, one of the worst teams in the league cut this guy and we are trying to start him out of position, and our other option is a backup at best center converted to guard also. Folks, it isn't being negative to say this is really bad, and very dangerous for JC, that's just the truth.

Do we have some bright spots on the roster? Absolutely! Our Defense looks great, JC, Moss, and Cooley are making the passing game look great and we have two good running backs. However, all that falls apart if we can't block anybody and right now it doesn't look like we can. If and when Samuels comes back at full strength our pass protection should improve, but the truth is, LG will still be a problem and Jansen looks like he is regressing. All that is, is the truth. Sorry if you can't handle it.

I'd kind of been hoping that Lemar Marshall would have been thrown in on a trade deal -- a proverbial ham sandwich -- in a trade package that would land a guard, like some team's #3 guard/center insert. Still doesn't make sense to me why they cut him now.

Just as Jason can be critical of the team for issues he believes they've mistaken with, so too does every blogger have the right to be critical with Jason.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 04:26 PM

Everyone has the right to do anything including to respond to the whiners. This stuff about "you aren't good enough for me" is tiresome. The blog is what it is, and we accept it this way. We're not interested in altering it to suit the whiners. Get over it.

Guru (if you are the 5:02 post), I agree. I didn't know peeps were jumping down your throat for disagreeing with Jasno. Seems like almost everyone disagrees with him at some point ... and normally, the disagreement is embraced, discussed, repeated, summarized, lathered, rinsed, repeated, etc., ad nauseum. [anything to drive up the threadcount. wink wink]

Perriculum, I don't even really know what to say to you. I think your the only person on the planet who would think that signing Priest Holmes and playing him at WR or even HBack would be a good idea. Holmes wouldn't even think its a good idea. I just can't say anything else on that matter, the depth of your stupidity makes continued conversation on the subject impossible.

Too bad about Marshall..he was a feel good story...but that don't win games, does it?

And since we're talkin' bout keepin players...can we PLEEEEAAASSSEEE sign Cooley already!!!???

One. Two. Three. PILE ON JACK! Just kidding.

Btw and seeking clarification, per Jack's post at 5:03pm, does the term "freaking" warrant the use of SJK?

Periculum

I think you are confusing third down back joe w, kelvin b, with h-back didder, clint cooley, terry orr...like i said i agree with on on some things except priest holmes as a wr and the whole h-back, third down back thing.... we are good other than that. don't forget charley taylor....those guys were rb's for a year or two then converted to wr....but that was like 30/40yrs ago and neither had a seriouis neck injury in between....our recievers are ok....we will find 5 for the season

Since they're my kids I'll say no.

periculum- I love what you write up here. You got some funny stuff. But Priest Holmes, with a bad neck, can not simply become a WR at age 34. Monk (6'3" BTW) was converted at age 22, straight out of college, and healthy. The H-Back, as it existed under the Gibbs offense, is no more. Saunders doesn't have an H-Back.

I think Peri misspoke himself when he said Gary Clark. I think he meant Kelvin Bryant.

Jack, is it OK when your kids call someone "stupid"? Ad hominem (personal) attacks are not in the spirit of the RI blog. I think you owe us all an apology (or, at least, your kids).

Also to Jack and Guru10, regarding the past 4 hours of your life ... can you honestly say that, as much as you want that time back, you felt SUPER smart and you blogged your GUTS OUT? On behalf of Nate in the PDX, welcome to the RI!

"Since they're my kids I'll say no.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 05:12 PM

"

Hopefully your Kids don't read that.........

"I think you are confusing third down back joe w, kelvin b, with h-back didder, clint cooley, terry orr..."

No I'm not. After Joe Washington was traded Gibbs acquired Kelvin Bryant to do what Joe was doing. Riggins was the feature back. Those two would come in mostly on passing downs. THEN, AFTER BRYANT we see them using ORR and DIDIER. Looking for someone with a larger frame for blocking on running plays while still catching the ball.

It all started with Joe Washington.

Based on what he did to the Redskins in their last game with him in 2005 I would think Priest Holmes would make a fine receiver.

DO YOU REMEMBER WE WERE FLYING ALONG AND HIT PRIEST HOLMES AND AL SAUNDERS IN THE AIR ....

Caught five passes for 100 yards with a 60-yard TD vs. Washington (10/16), marking the third-longest catch of his career. It was his fifth 100-yard receiving day with Kansas City, tying RB Abner Haynes for first in team history for running backs ...

oh and one more thing about the h-back... one LT has a much to do with that as anyone, Joe created the one back two tight end (H)hybrd -back to block the NFL's greatest SKGING defender one LAWRENCE TAYLOR....so we are still good on everything except the whole preist to wr and h-back / third down back and the origin of the h-back....

dcsween, I appreciate your input, but I've been called so many names on this blog its not even funny, and my kids are smart enough to understand that there are stupid people in this world, I mean, they've had George W. for president in their formative years so they realize they exist. And I'm not going to apologize for calling a guy stupid who called me an idiot in his previous post while telling me Priest Holmes would be a good WR. That is stupid and should be so labeled. And after the abuse I've taken for stating my opinions just like eveyone else on hear, I'm not going to apologize to anyone. I've never cussed anyone on this blog and I've been cussed more times than I can count, and will be again right after this post I'm sure, so don't ask me to apologize for calling a stupid person stupid.

Joe Washington, and Kelvin Bryant were 3rd down backs. HUGE difference between a RB coming out of the backfield to catch a ball and a WR running a route downfield.

Peri

I think Preist Holmes would make a great third down back like (kelvin or Joe W) back in the day but he is not comming here...he will be lucky if he plays again period

redskinetts signed Randall godfrey whos old and put himm next to fletcher who also is old and playing LB 20 yrs between them is recipe for injured reserve!

Maybe Holmes can come in as an LG or LT too.

DO YOU REMEMBER WE WERE FLYING ALONG AND HIT PRIEST HOLMES AND AL SAUNDERS IN THE AIR ....

DOH, does anyone here actually watch games and read statistics?
DOUBTFUL.

Caught five passes for 100 yards with a 60-yard TD vs. Washington (10/16), marking the third-longest catch of his career. It was his fifth 100-yard receiving day with Kansas City, tying RB Abner Haynes for first in team history for running backs ...

JOE Washington and Kelvin Bryant were not just 3rd down backs. They were H-backs. Part of the reason for the conversion to the slower, larger blocking H-backs like Orr and Didier was because of linebackers and fast DE's like Taylor and Bruce Smith among others. Bryant was a superlative blocker. As was Riggins.

Okay,

Let's all agree to;
1) no name calling,
2) no cussing, except for the use of SJK (I don't swear, but its an RI staple now)
3) respecting the opinions of others (no matter how stupid or idiotic) and use facts and reason whenever possible.

Maybe Holmes can come in as an LG or LT too.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 05:26 PM

SCSkins!! ROFL yeah, I think he can play SLB too. He sounds a lot like a young Arrington to me. I don't care that he is a RB, he probably played LB in Pop Warner!

Dude. I remember the long TD Holmes had. On a short pass out of the backfield, where several guys missed tackles. Again, to line up wide, at age 34, with a bad neck...it ain't happening.

Do you remember that one game where Trent Green threw and INT, Holmes put one great form tackle on the guy, do any of you guys watch football or read statisics, he has never missed a tackle! He'd be awesome at linebacker for us!

respectfully stumped....f that....

i curse but i don't use SJK...and i like jack.....

and fightin, and scrapin is part of the RI fun! I liked redcoat azs much as any brit.....but he was a wuss bag for not being able to deal with the typist wrasslin....i mean he was a dolphins fan already, hardly the definition of tough......

"he will be lucky if he plays again period"

He passed the physical? So, why not here? Just like B. Mitchell he really shouldn't be running the ball. BUT HE COULD catch passes and be a helluva a lot more productive than THE RECEIVER. Why not here since he knows the system and mindset of Saunders?

People, R U SLEEPING out there? Randle EL IS A CONVERTED quarterback. HE IS listed as the #2. NOW WE CONVERT A HB WHO ACTUALLY CATCHES PASSES and used to get into the REDZONE on regular basis. WHO WOULD WANT OUT THERE CATCHING the BALL? The 2005 version of Priest Holmes or Randle El?

I think I would try to see what Priest could do.

Jack, to each his own, just trying to play vice deputy sheriff of Mayberry (not my role anyway).

Of the WRs on the Skins roster, no one is over 200 pounds (and none is sporting a neck brace). Priest Holmes is listed as 213 pounds. Admittedly, weight and injury history are not statistics, but LJ did just sign with the Chiefs today so, assuming the Skins don't move to sign ANOTHER running back who played for Saunders (w/Blaylock and Dee Brown, maybe third time's a charm), let the record reflect that MOST of the blog will be eating crow when some other team picks up the WR of the future for their #3 wideout.

Sween - Lathered, Rinsed, repeated and threadcount. You reminded me I need to wash my sheets. Thanks. ;)

Stumped,

The only one doing the name-calling up here in the RI is JLC, calling out Elfin as "Day Late Dave"!

Priest Holmes says he is ready. The doctors say he can play. Larry Johnson is coming back now. Priest dissed "the Larry". Priest gets cut.

NOW, why not spin the wheel of fortune? Maybe you come up with another weeener? No?

Stumped, I'd love it if that were possible, but face, there are too many people on here who don't care cause it's just a computer and not face to face. I've been cussed so many times and finally I just decided to let it go because it is just a computer.

Also to Jack and Guru10, regarding the past 4 hours of your life ... can you honestly say that, as much as you want that time back, you felt SUPER smart and you blogged your GUTS OUT? On behalf of Nate in the PDX, welcome to the RI!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 05:16 PM

It's only because I'm a really conscientious guy!

Priest of 2005? Sounds good .....uh......no, wait ....oh yeah it's 2007

Wow, my respect for this blog is gone. I mean really? Holmes at WR? First of all, he's most likely paying the season on the PUP list, but let's just say he does get cut, there is nobody in the world who would play him at WR!!!!!!! he is no longer very fast, he's not big, and he hasn't run routes in who knows how long.....catching a swing pass out of the backfield and breaking it isn't the same as being a WR! And besides, if we want to experiment, let's try the Reaper or CP split out, not a 34 year old washed up RB who hasn't played in 3 years because of a broken neck!!!! Come on people!!!!

Periculum,
I don't understand your weird obsesion w/ Priest Holmes as a WR. I meen it could maybe work, but seeing as the guy is old, coming off a catastrophic injury, and he has never played the position it seems like a longshot. I don't see how you can be so convinced this would work.

Jack,
I find that I agree on a point by point basis with alot of what you post, but on the whole the tone in witch you write it makes me want to throat-chop you. It seems like every post from you is aggressivly pessimistic, as well as leaving no room for even the possiblity of a different point of view

Long time no post. (working for the time being). I feel bad for 98 for getting cut, I care more because it removes the chances of doing a deadly 4-4 or 3-4 combo. The guy was a good OLB. But I am sure Rocky will be better.

I don't get ripping on Gg this early in the preseason, as his D has yet to let up a touchdown, no other team can say that. The only other team to allow less points per game is Baltimore, 16 (Washington 18). If the points get racked up by MIA and the Iggs, once the season starts, then by all means rip the guy a new one.

I like everyone am worried about the offencive production, why can't Gibbs score more then 21 points?

There is one more different problem I have, and that is the fact that I saw more Steelers fans in the stadium last game then Skins fans. We need to stop letting outsiders into the damn stadium. Maybe we are losing so damn many games because have the fans root for the other team. 100,000 people don't matter if 45,000 of them are for the other team.

redskinettes will be in last place again and all of us who look at this team with a little COMMON SENSE which most of you have NONE,will not want to jump at the end of another PATHETIC season!U overblown fans should jump so we can have a fan base that wont put up with losing since 1991!

Check out #3 on the List of Top Ten Fastest WRs in the NFL.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0708/fastest.wide.receivers.nfl/content.3.html