Okay, if Santana's hurt, can we put Lloyd on IR? Probably not, but thought I'd ask.

edible thongs

sfskin,

Thanks for the lol re: the hamster video. In needed that.

12 times!

Did anyone else guess The Princess Bride from your quiz last night?

Lloyd is coming back from the bye week with a hangnail that will require him to go on IR

SCskin - nope you were the only one and you are of course correct. One of my fav movies ever.

sfskin, I watched that hamster video several times. I agree that Yoder was out of position.

Anybody else hurt enough to be put on IR? Fox? I know he's a solid teams tackler, so maybe that's bad. Anybody else notice Lloyd, Brandon as the second to the last guy on Suisham's right during kicks?

The last dozen or so posts on the last thread.......

Well this makes things interesting, who's up next in the B.Lloyd inactive pool?

4-12 - Just dropped you an email.....

Hail!

McCardell visit is curious-

1. Keeping 6 WRs? - doubtful
2. Moss more injured than team letting on? - really hope not (spells certain doom for team)
3. Cutting The Receiver? - unlikely due to cap hit
4. Cutting Ricochet? - unlikely since he was just signed
5. Cutting Thrash? - the only option left

Am I missing something? Thoughts?

Will Keenan be coaching? Because honestly that is where we need to tap free agency, is for a bit of a better coaching approach, not necessarily another WR.Being a LONG time fan I know I will be sent to Redskins hell, a Super Bowl Party in the mid 90's where the Cowboys win, for questioning Saint Joe however all 3 weeks this year there have been some odd situations.

1. Kicking FG on 1st Down in OT in Miami = +
2. The whole pre-halftime debacle in Philly = ?, we lucked out
3. Final drive against the N.Y. Gints = - - - - bad bad bad
I love ya Joe but with Danny boys $ maybe we need to hire a million per year game manager.

For what it is worth, Adam Schefter said he thinks it is more the Skins looking for a 3rd wide receiver they feel comfortable with rather than Moss being badly hurt. Schefter said they have been searching for awhile (guess he meant all offseason) so that probably means Caldwell is not lighting them up in practice.

He also said McCardell will be signed on Monday - so I imagine that Randy Thomas will be placed on IR, right? Or will they release Caldwell? Or someone else?

lisa, they're still carrying 6 safeties. won't be surprised at all if one of them gets cut.

Just had a look, etrod has Lloyd being cut during the bye week, and dcsween has him being inactive in Week 4.

one post in 40 minutes? is it the bye week or something?

Maybe the didn't get a beep beep?

hey kost, would to re-post the pool.

I think that I am SJKed, cause it seems less and less likely that he will even catch a ball. He should be inactive very soon!

I don't see the point in signing McCardell; they are probably going to leave him inactive for several weeks and even if he gets in the game they are not going to throw his way. The Skins passing game is elementary at best and that has nothing to do with Campbell or Al Saunders (Gibbs is the answer).

Which is a bigger athletic achievement?

x) Setting the all-time homerun record?

Q) Setting the all-time touchdown pass record?

(let's assume all athletes involved are not juicing)

All time home run record is more of an achievement. It has only been broken twice in 75 years.

I'm picking him up on my fantasy team right now...

The Receiver is prone to deuchebaggery.

Posted by: sfskin | September 27, 2007 02:48 PM

___________

LMGO.

Thanks for the analysis. Logical, but with a hint of emotion. A good blend with a bold finish.

Thrash won't be cut. That you can take to the bank. His value on special teams outweighs any thoughts of that. McCardell might be coming in because Reche Caldwell wasn't what they expected in practice. Another possibility may be that they cut the Receiver to set an example. I believe that even with a cap hit that example is more important than the financial considerations. Hopefully, they can finagle a way around them ...

Jason. Spell Checker.

Please.

Here's Bangkokben's inactive pool -

Game 2: talent evaluator
Game 3: bangkokben
bye bye Brandon week: etrod
Game 4: dcsween
Game 5: NC ICU RN
Game 6: Stumped
Game 7: kost52
Game 8: Thaiphoon
Game 9: Ricky Bobby
Game 10: farstriker
Game 11: sfskin
Game 12: Stop
Game 13: WaPoLiveFan16
Game 14: Cindy's boy toy
Game 15: 35332
Game 16: Dorf
Playoffs???!!!: getharn13
Dresses entire season: Big Fish
The Receiver leading the League in every receiver category: P Diddy

I reckon P Diddy's guess is in a bit of trouble!

The blog is a little lost when there isn't a target to aim for isn't it!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/donovan_mcnabb_has_perfect?utm_source=slate_rss_1

hilarious

Do the Redskins really need a 37 year old receiver? Thrash seems old, but is only 32. He's a more than adequate #3 or #4 receiver, down field blocker, and special teams player.

Given the injuries on the O/D-lines -- it would make more sense to pick up an additional backup guard, tackle, or defensive lineman...

The Onion... here's a repeat that deserves another look

Well it's about 30 hours until the Aussie Rules Grand Final starts, and I can tell you're all dripping with anticipation! I know I am (well at least I hope that's what it is!).

If you've got nothing on Friday night, and you're looking for an excuse to have a drink, check out this site
http://www.afana.com/drupal/parties/2007/frontPage

It has a list of all the Grand Final parties that are going on for all you US Americans.

The one in DC is $35 for all you can drink! That's a sweet deal!

And feel free to copy and paste next time a CowPie shows up...

It's only $35 for all you can drink because you'll have one drink, and then the Aussies will realize you are American, and turn you upside-down into a trash can.

ON Sirius NFL channel tonight Adam Schefter reported that the skins are signing him on Monday. He was reporting that it is a done deal

Hooray for the Office!

Booo for not synched audio/visual

another non-redskins related comment...

Bionic Woman looks like a real 'winner' of a show. I thought NBC was better than that.

Where is everyone?

seriously, this is creeping me out.

This is like a bad Twilight Zone

I'm scared.

I'm lurking. Nothing to say. Mourning for the Mets ...

Cutting Lloyd now would be no more of a cap hit than waitng for the season to end. The hit would be on next years cap unless they wait until after June 1, 2008

The blog is dead.

THEISMANN OUT AT ESPN

ESPN spokesman Mac Nwulu tells us that Joe Theismann is no longer affiliated with the network.

Here's the official statement: "We have reached a settlement with Joe Theismann to end his association with ESPN. We thank Joe for his many years of work for us and wish him well."

The move isn't surprising. After taking Theismann out of the Monday Night Football booth, ESPN refused to fire Theismann, since to do so would have required the network to buy out his contract. And Theismann wasn't going to quit, since taking whatever piddly assignments that ESPN threw his way -- and getting paid a salary based on being on MNF -- was a lot more financially attractive than getting nothing. So after several months of each side waiting for the other side to blink, a deal was reached.

Presumably, Theismann will get some of the money that remained to be paid under his contract, but not all of it.

So ends a relationship that extended over more than three decades. And it came about without a party or a press conference or any other proclamation. Instead, ESPN replaced Theismann with Seth Wickersham on the expert picks page of ESPN.com, and apparently presumed that no one would notice.

The fact that ESPN had nothing to say about the departure before the departure was detected by visitors to ESPN.com tells us that ESPN isn't particularly happy about how the relationship ended. The fact that Theismann spent a good bit of his time whining on the record, and on the air, about his removal from MNF probably had something to do with that.

UPDATE: Nwulu says that, under the deal, Theismann is free to work immediately with any other media company. (Maybe he'll send us an application.)

Guess who will have a new XXX Radio Show?

Oct 7, 2007: Clark Going in to Ring of Fame
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Site Staff
WarpathInsiders.com Sep 27, 2007

Landover, MD- The Washington Redskins announced today that wide receiver Gary Clark will be inducted to the Redskins Ring of Fame at FedExField during the October 7, 2007 game against Detroit Lions.

"Gary is a well-deserved addition to the Ring of Fame," said Redskins Owner Daniel M. Snyder. "A Redskin to the core, he has displayed intelligence, toughness, integrity and a winning attitude. That's something we all applaud."

Clark began his professional career with the USFL's Jacksonville Bulls in 1984. Later that year, he was drafted in the second round (55th overall) by the Washington Redskins in the USFL Supplemental draft. During his first season with the Redskins in 1985, Clark finished with 72 catches for 926 yards and five touchdowns despite starting just ten games. In his second year as a Redskin, he earned his first of four trips to the Pro Bowl (1986, 1987, 1990, 1991).He was an integral part of winning Super Bowl XXII and Super Bowl XXVI with the Redskins. He played eight of his 11 NFL seasons with the Redskins, finishing his career with 699 receptions for 10,856 yards and 65 touchdowns. Clark also had twenty-seven 100-yard games as a Redskin.

After eight seasons with the Redskins, Clark went to the Phoenix Cardinals for the 1993 season. As a Cardinal in 1994, he became the first NFL receiver to catch 50 or more passes in the first 10 seasons of his career. He retired from the NFL after spending the 1995 season with the Miami Dolphins.

Go ahead and cut the worthless bum Loyd!! Wasn't Kenan McCardell originally drafted by Gibbs in his first stint with the Redskins??

Dorf,

My Nipples are chaffing.

I need some Whiskey.

Office rulz
According to Jim drulz

Hay-sus Chreest-eh... can't the Post afford Spell Check software for J-La?

You know, I can honestly say that I have never talked about B. Lloyd. I have never really viewed him as a player. But after that blow up he had on tv at the end of the season last year, I have had nothing but hate for the man. And he seriously looks like a turd burgler after he actually catches a pass. Unfortunatly we have not seen this g a y parade since he has not caught a ball yet this season. But we did see a glimpse of this during the one of few catches against the Stillerz in the preseason. If any of these words are mis-spelled, or this makes no sense, its becaue I am 12 deep and 1 too many blizzies to be able to spell or speak. If you don't know what a blizzie is, let's just sum it all up as a single rolled stale philly.

Go 'Skins!

F the Samba girls.

USA USA

(this is a soccer reference)

btw I need a job

This is not looking good. We can't lose a key person every week.

Need some reporting. Is the Lloyd acting up, not working, too many L's, or just sucks.

I thought he was working with Springs and looked OK in pre-season. Maybe he changed Springs more than springs changed him.

What is up with Moss?

The samba girls are cute so I meant the literally, but in respect for their culture and women-hood.

a

I forget where I was at.

Just slam Mr. Sellers into the "pelican" of the "D" during critical goal line situations, and, presto, we're have a short yardage back!

M&M, you need a job? The blog needs a night watchman.

I really like sayinf Keenan McCarDELL, but he ain't the answer.

This team has squandered too much money on bad signings from Deion ro the WR to Archulettus to Spurrier to George to Arrington td nauseum, made too many bad draft picks to be a major challeneg to the elites for at least three to five years.

MAYBE if there was a Betherd style genious makign the picks instead of VInnie Baby and Joe Gibbs, but this team is middle of the road toast.

I agree to an extent, Corky. But I don't think anybody signed off the street in week four is ever thought of as "the answer." Unless it's a really dumb question.

This feels more like a stopgap to me, an insurance policy against something Serious afflicting Santana.

And it also makes me think that Ray-Shay hasn't exactly set the practice field on fire.

Picking up TWO old dudes off the street during the season to help out at WR sure ain't inspiring much confidence. -Capt. Obvious

*** Not football

Just finished a bottle of delicious Dick's Best Bitter, made right up the road in Centralia, WA, and featuring Mount Hood hops. Yummy.

http://dicksbeer.com/brew_info.tpl?key=10

I'm about to crack into a Hammer 'n Tongs Draught.

And no, I didn't buy the beer just for it's name.

Nate, Kost,

Just poured myself a tall cup of Kirkland's Sumatra Supreme. Grown right up the road and across the strait from kost and roasted across the Potomac River at COSTCO in Pentagon City. On balance, either of your swills sounds better.

Can anyone remind of the other corner backs that were drafted just before and just after Anvil hands Carlos, the king of cushion?

I am thinking Pacman, who may have been a better athletically but had off field probs, am I am strating to wonder about the number one pick on Rodgers. I keep seeing Plex torching him...wakes me up

Caldwell should be cut. If he isnt active after two weeks, and then they sign another old guy, gotta be him. Why have two, especially when one cant see the field/

DTC--In the 2005 draft, Pacman was taken #6, Antrel Rolle #8 (Arizona), and Rogers was #9. Next DB was Fabian Washington, #23 (Raiders). Personally, I think the Redskins picked the best of those four.

Zebra
Lloyd,Caldwell.McCardell
if any of these WRs excite you then know your still drinking the kool-aide? President of the team (GIBBS) has got to go! McCardell will be of no use this yr and any yr(OLD as CRUST in YOUR UNDERWEAR)

Boofer;

I never said any of them makes me excited. DO YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO READING COMPREHENSION IN 5TH GRADE?

te - you cracked yourself a beer at 4:41am?? Nice work buddy!!

Sorry, my sentence was interrupted -

TE - You cracked yourself a beer at 4:41am on a school night?? Nice work buddy!!

NFLN is reporting that McCardell will sign a contract on Monday, not just visit.

Just passing the word....

Zebra
You never said they do suck?

As for my comprehension skills? I appreciate your concern but it is you who didnt understand. SORRY DUDE!

I'm pretty smart.

I was saying that we should pick up McCardell all along. I knew we had that need. I also said we should go after Keyshawn before he officially retired.

So many of you called me names.

I'd also like to point out that I asked Michael Wilbon if we'd go after TJ Duckett in one of his chats well before we actually did. Wilbon answered my question like I had two heads. Something like, "are you kidding me..."

I'd like a job please.

Ok, and I still dont understand. Because you are not making sense. You are reading into the fact that I did not say they suck and thinking that I like them?

To Clarify:

Caldwell should be cut since he hasnt been activated, obviously he hasnt shown anything.

McCardell hopefully will actually see the field so we can assess if he is a 3rd wr.

And I hate B Lloyd and I have stated as much in the past.

I'd also like to point out that I asked Michael Wilbon if we'd go after TJ Duckett in one of his chats well before we actually did. Wilbon answered my question like I had two heads. Something like, "are you kidding me..."

I'd like a job please.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 28, 2007 07:45 AM

Sorry, dude. If you ever suggested that the Redskins should go after Duckett, you need to stay as far away from the FO as possible. It looks, though, that maybe Wilbon should be considered for the job.

Looks like Jason's "help" should have been 4th Floor - he's posted more news to the Washingtonpost.com in the last few hours than anyone from the Post has for days.

I've had it with the lazy Post writers. If Brian Mitchell can hook up with CP during the bye week, surely someone - ANYONE - whose job it is (you know, the one they get paid for) could report more than some incomplete rumor than has been more fleshed out elsewhere.

B Mitch hooked up with CP on The john thompson radio show which clinton calls into weekly.

Once a week, where the post and their writers are on the beat every day unless they are on vacation.

You guys who complain need to get a life

What is it with retarded girls fans who don't know what a fact is? Make idiotic statements like, " McCardell will be of no use this yr and any yr"

You truly are an idiot but I'm not even angry with you. I'm angry with the Texas school system and your parents. May god have mercy on your soul.

They brought Caldwell in because he's the only man in America that can "keep an eye on Sean Taylor"...

Nice Cload.

skinz
IT takes a RETARD to RECOGNIZE a RETARD!
That being said, I told your DUMB AS* that Caldwell would be of no use & I will tell your COMPLETELY DUMB AS* that McCardell will be of no use!!! Why do you think hes still on street!!Saunders Offense is hard enough for VETS what do you think it will be for a NEW WR?? WHO IS SLOWER then your GRANDMA!!!

Reche will still be on the team and Santana will be fine for Detroit. Thrash will be on the roster. I really don't know what they will do with Lloyd but his future isn't looking good. You know what really makes me sick, two years ago Plexiglass was looking for a home and nobody really wanted him. He didn't sign with the Gmen until his second trip to NY which was on March 17th. My question....why didn't the Skins bring him in? Now look what he is doing to us. Again poor personnel management.

Ahh good old Friday night, I'd hate to be at work right now!

Boy you can practically see the tumbleweeds blowing through here!!

Posted by: IM a RETARD | September 28, 2007 09:01 AM

Ahh good old Friday night, I'd hate to be at work right now!

Posted by: kost52 | September 28, 2007 09:04 AM

Enjoy it while it lasts, mate. Where will you be when I'm soused to the gills and watching the Cowboys on Sunday?

RC, yesterday you called me a homer, regarding you comparing the Dolphins and Redskins being in the same boat.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it. The phins are 0-3. You can spin the 2 victories the Redskins have ANY WAY YOU LIKE, but they won both games. Call them lucky, call them close, call them whatever. They're wins. Period. I'll take a close victory any day of the week, rather than a loss.

Beantown Greg you have been so salty lately...I love it!

Also in response to DTC above, the visions of Plaxico running past Double Move are fresher, and therefore more horrifying this week, but they have not completely supplanted the brutal visions of our entire defense chasing Tiki Barber downfield.

Suffice to say that I am never watching us play the Giants at the On Deck sports bar again. Make me feel embarrassed for sitting in a public place watching our defense collapse once, shame on you. Make me feel...

I teach 6th grade reading comprehension and believe you/me... Boofer is a lost cause. He's not playing with a full deck of cards.

I wasn't that pleased with the office last night... seemed forced. Andy's bloody nipples was gross. Jim and Pam... meh...

How bout them Redskins?

I just dont get our front office at all, why do we keep bringing in these small receivers, we need someone with some size, do we even have one over 6ft tall?

CL, have I? I didn't think I was, but then again, maybe.

I just don't think that comparing a team that is 2-1, to a team that is 0-3 is even close to reality. Then when I compared the 0-3 Saints to the 0-3 Dolphins, RC said that wasn't close to reality?

Thats some kind of spin....

Dorf! It was a pretty good episode, not great. Did have some great lines and scenes but agree it felt forced at times.

Butt:

Making check out to "science"

"I don't respect her but I will go see her"

Cree listing all the painkillers...

Those were all good lines!

Hi Greg, I think you've missed my point. I'm not trying to say "my team is better than yours" or spin anything.

What I AM trying to say is that I think both teams find themselves in a similar position at this point in time - regardless of current W/L count.

Both teams had misfiring elements last year (defense for you, offense for us). Both teams invested significantly in addressing that in the off-season.

Both teams had elements that seemed to be either good or improving enough to not need so much investment (offense for you, defense for us).

And yet we find ourselves in similar situations inasmuch as our defense is now our Achilles heel and your offense is misfiring.

All I'm sayin' is the teams are closer than the records suggest. We're supposed to have an 'inferior' offense to most teams yet we've scored 61 points this season. We're losing because we can't stop people on D when we need to.

You're D has worked hard to get off the field but the offense isn't (always) cashing in on that and if they can't you might find yourself looking at a season like last year.

Do I think Miami is better than Washington? No. But I don't think a 16-13 O/T win at home suggests that Washington isn't much better than Miami either.

We had 3 first downs inside the 10 in the game, you had none. The final score doesn't lie - we didn't do enough to win so we didn't deserve to win; but let's not make that fractional difference into some vast air of superiority for you over us - our teams are not that far apart right now.

And maybe that's why Gibbs is still erring on the conservative side - not always, but a little more often than I think some of you would like.

This is how bad it's gotten with the inability of the front office to improve the WR corps for three years now.

Kennan McCardell? Reche Caldwell? There's a reason these guys were on the street.

It's pathetic.

If Moss is a no-go for Detroit we will have a really hard time scoring more than 24 points. That means 2-2, folks.

And I don't know how this gets fixed for next year -- the potential free agents are not attractive and even first round WRs rarely find success in their rookie season. And there isn't a Demetrius-Williams-type project on the roster to hope for either.

And the reasons I say we don't compare to the Saints is twofold:

5. The expectation on them was/is orders of magnitude greater than on us.
7. The Saints offense (if fit) is probably still good enough to get them to a wildcard in the NFC. NO WAY ours is from here, even if we could somehow conjure up a 10-6, which would be incredible from 0-3 when we still have to play the Patriots twice this year.

"When a farmer sees an animal that is in pain, that has no quality of life, that has no utility, a farmer does what city folk don't have the stomach to do."

Okay Greg, let's try this statistically.

Redskins 2-1, versus teams with a combined record of 2-7.

Dolphins 0-3, versus teams with a combined record of 6-3.

When you've played Dallas twice, the Eagles again and the Patriots once, and we've played the Patriots twice and the Giants and Eagles once, maybe we'll have a better idea of who's record is better.

I have a feeling that the records will look pretty similar by then because we will have played the woeful Bills twice as well.

If you're record is still better than ours I shall happily bow to your superiority - intellectual as well as footballing.

What say you?

By the way, I too would take close victories, but I would worry that we would fall away at some point if we couldn't get clear of other teams. Although it's certainly not an issue for us this year!! :-)

Redcoat,

Blah, blah, blah.... Need a link to a Dolphins Blog?

Mornin' RC...

What's the latest over on the 'Fins blogs? Are they calling for Cam's head? Lamenting the absence of Ricky "Ganj" Williams? How restless are the natives?

I know Moss has some clutch catches, and long catches, as well as drops.

But ARE has really stepped up, with a TD and key catches as well. Really he and Moss are the same type of player.

So losing Moss wouldnt be crippling. It would make it hard as ARE gets single cover on the lesser of two CB's and now would get more attention.

But Maybe B Lloyd is the #2 and he shows something. You gotta figure if he is #2, he would be on the field more with more opportunities.

Not saying he will produce, but he def did not have many chances as #3, not that he warranted more looks. But if he is forced into the line-up by injury, maybe he will surprise.

Oy VEY!

I just couldn't take thinking about this crap this week. But my job is now so boring, I can't take that either! lmgo.

I apologize for crawling under a rock for a few days, but after the way I shot my mouth (fingers) off about Area51 last week, I just couldn't deal. Sue me.

In my defense - they weren't put in position to lay a lickin' on no one in the 2nd half - so it's not exactly their fault.

Obviously, the O-line has a way to go to keep this team in games. The way this team is set up this year, we can't have the offense completely stymied for a half. It just won't work that way.

So I offer my condolences to all and my support to the team for their ol' college try after the ARE return.

"Maps"

This is how bad it's gotten with the inability of the front office to improve the WR corps for three years now.

Kennan McCardell? Reche Caldwell? There's a reason these guys were on the street.

Posted by: CMoney | September 28, 2007 10:00 AM

CMoney--

Most would say that they have improved the WR corps. In the last three years they've added Moss and Randle El. Isn't that an improvement over Rod Gardner, Taylor Jacobs?

As for this inane comment "there's a reason these guys are on the street" isn't that a tautology. Is there anyone on the street who's not there for a reason?

In the third week of the season, if someone's hurt, you've got to sift through the "on the street for a reason" guys. What is your solution? Trade some future draft picks for someone else's third or fourth receiver?

Look, there's enough wrong with the front office without having to stretch and blast them for looking at McCardell or Caldwell.

Dik,

It definitely seemed like the whole team lost their lust for may hens in the second half.

Maybe after eating some crow, they will come back hungry against the Lions.

Boy these 'not' jobs are tediously unimaginative aren't they....

Need a link to a mental midgets blog 'not' guy?

Hi SC. It's actually fairly restrained right now. The people who have been calling for Cam's head ever since we hired him are still calling for it and will continue to do so until we %) win something or C) he quits.

However most people are in the "we are who we thought we are" camp. We're not good enough to contend and the point of this season will be to see if we've finally righted the ship on offense, and secondly if we have to totally blow-up the defense in the off-season (my gut says we do and we will).

We got way younger on offense this year - I think an average of about 5 years per player - although that gets worse if you factor in Trent!! - and that part of the team is showing signs of life, but the D - ugh....

I'll talk some Saints:

Lay off the skill positions - they're doing fine. No one could have any production when the O-Line is a siv. (See Washington game against Giants....durrrr).

I am flabbergasted why the national media hasn't reviewed this point at all, other than "it ain't sexy to talk O-Line"...

Re: Saints, I think they're all surprised that Drew Brees looks SO sketchy back there Dik.

He's looking more like David Carr than Drew Brees right now. I appreciate that's at least in part because of the o-line, but boy has he made some BAAAAD throws too.

RC-

I agree with your analysis of the 'Fins-'Skins in terms of talent and upside. Both teams should be happy to get to 8-8. In the sorry NFC, that is a wildcard appearance. In the AFC East, probably bottom of the division.

How's Zach looking for this week? How do the 'Fins match up against the Raiders?

Oh yeah, I was also wondering what RI Nation was thinking about the upcoming Iggles-Gints street fight Sunday night.

I predict the Iggles put up more points than the Gints in an offensive shoot-out. Should be fun to watch.

I just chevcked it out, Brees has 1 TD and 7 INTs this year, yuk. He has a total QB rating of 57.1 and he's 32nd of the 34 on the list at ESPN, above only Grossperson and Tarvaris Jackson.

Way to work the metaphor, SCS! ;-)

Again, if they weren't so darned tired (O-Line problems) & placed out of position (Prevent D) - I'm sure we would have heard from them in the 2nd half.

Redcoat - I do think that there is a fundamental philosophical difference between our teams. Additionallly, we're a year removed from our coaching switch.
But we have certainly both screwed ourselves in draft pics & cap room.

Greg has def. been a bit salty. I've noticed as well.

RC, I always laugh at people who show the records against. It is flawed logic. After two weeks we had played two teams with a combined record of 0-4. Guess what two of those 4 loss' those teams had were to us. You have to remove both teams records from the equation or it's a self fullfilling prophecy.

Yeah - but count how many seconds Breeze has when he drops back - it's like 2! Every Dropback! No one could produce in that situation. Something happened to that line. They can't run block and they can't pass block. The pics are a direct result of panic.

This is a situation where the obvious stats belie the situation - the offense has no time to do anything.

I think ZT will be a game-time decision SC, but he's certainly practising. Longer term it may be good for us if he doesn't play because Crowder is getting experience at MLB which is where he will play when Zach retires. Crowder screwed some plays up on 3rd and 'x' situations that kept drives alive for the Jests, but how else is he going to learn?

As for us vs. Raiders, I think we will be able to move the ball on them - not tons, but enough. And I think we should be able to stop them - you can be sure there will be plenty of blitzes on Daunte, that's for sure!

My gut says we maybe win 17-13, it will probably be a game much like our one in week 1, I just hope we can finish a little better, as 0-4 would be real ugly.

Sorry for the saltiness.

Hopefully, no harm, no foul?

I still think the Redskins are a ten win team. The O-line will be MUCH better in Detroit. Two weeks to gel & get healthy? Hey - we might even get back to callin' 'em hogs! hehehehe.

Redcoat I dig not guy myself, would rather read that then breakdown of Fins!!!!

JK, JK redcoat your my dawg!

SMACK - I'll probably have called in sick, be in bed, hungover, after celebrating the Cats Championship Victory (Aussie Rules) the Melbourne Storm Championship Victory (Rugby League)and the Razorbacks Championship Victory (My Basketball team).

I hear what you're saying Skinz, but they will be meaningful over the course of the season.

On our side: Do I think the Cowgrrls will have a winning season? Sadly, yes. Do I think the Jests will have a winning season? Sadly, yes (grrrr). Do I think Washington will have a winning season? Maybe, if you can get the offense working, yes.

On your side: Do I think we will have a winning season? Probably not, 8-8 would be good. Will the Eagles? Probably yes if the real McNabb is back and stays healthy, but boy you met him at a good time!! Giants? Probably not.

Oh, it doesn't really matter what I'm trying to say, I hear you Skinz - bad comparison on my part.

Dik, when you say "different fundamental philosophy" what do you mean? I'm intrigued.

Beantown, don't get me wrong my man, I love your saltiness....no need to apologize!

That was a terrible loss on Sunday but we have to maintain some perspective. We are 2-1 and a very competitive team all around. I summoned the courage to watch the second half tape of the Giants game and it actually, strangely, made me feel a little better. No doubt about it. We got whipped. Coaching was bad, execution was bad, false starts and fumbles were bad. And the Plax catch and run was actually far worse on tv than it seemed in person.

But after all that, ARE had a great gutsy return to the 35. And, Jason, for all the things he did wrong Sunday, stood in the pocket in the face of great pressure and made some bigtime throws repeatedly on that final drive (even after a 3rd and long completion was called back for holding on Rabach). He looked unfazed.

Moreover, though occasionally Cooley was left alone with Strahan that was largely a factor of the Giants blitzing which the line picked up fairly well given how little time they have been together. One time Wade went to help Fabini instead of helping Cooley and that allowed Strahan to take Cooley one on one but this side of the line is all back-ups and has never played together. It will get better with time.

That is not to say we should accept this loss. We shouldn't and the team shouldn't. But I am not ready to press the panic button yet.

Greg;

No flag. I could give you a red like the a$$ of a ref did in the Chelsea Manchester Game last night... what a joke!

What was the final of that game? The wife HAD to watch the season premeirs of Ugly Betty and Greys (i will admit a guilty pleasure in watching ugly betty tho!)

Greg, no harm, no foul - and keep it coming!!

I'm an 'advocate' by nature and profession (not a lawyer though!) so I like to debate/argue with people, and this stuff is FUN!

It's cool to be a fan, it's cool to represent your team. I try to inject tome realism into my fan-ness when I can, but I also understand that I can be just as one-eyed about some stuff as the next guy.

And cL, I could never take offense. Believe me, if you ever met Mrs Redcoat 1.0 you'd know there's no insult I haven't been subjected to before, and probably worse. :-)

DIK
10 wins? have you looked at schedule? Why dont you look at schedule then put the 10 wins on this post? You have 2 already so only 8 more? GOOD LUCK

Man Untied won 2-0 Z (heh heh).

And you should know that Chelsea actually 'stole' Mikel from Manchester after he'd signed a contract with them, so there's plenty of bad blood there.

SKIN fans are already LAUGHING STOCK of NFL and DIK will show why?

Seems to me the difference between G 1 and G 2 is a lack of killer instinct. In G 1, when we had a tema down by 2TDs to start the second half, we would come out and try to lay a couple more on them, especially within the division. KILL was the word of the day. Has a kinder gentler G 2 come to coach us?

Kost,

Thanks for reposting the pool.

I really don't see the obsession with 3rd WR. I agree with 'the reporter' that we should have ran the ball more last game - especially with the running backs. On the other hand, I don't have any faith with the right side of the line to open holes. If Moss is healthy, I wouldn't mind throwing deep ten times on the Lions to try to set up the run. However if he's not 100%, I would like to see five or six runs in a row to set up the occasional deep ball.

I was a big optimist going into the season - primarily due to the health of our starters. Now health is an issue and consequently my optimism has waned. Still, the knee-jerk reactions from some 'fans' is nauseating.

The 'skins should be competitive in every game this year. If the quick decision making improves from the top down, we may have football in January.

I'm going to side with Dik and James Tuthill and say that if you guys can fix the current issues, you could still have a 9 or 10 win season, but you're going to have to fix them this week before things start going backwards.

Now for us? Not so good.

Redcoat - Don't get too down, you'll get a win soon! The Dolphins are scheduled to play Notre Dame this year yeah??

Redskins 2-1, versus teams with a combined record of 2-7.

Dolphins 0-3, versus teams with a combined record of 6-3.

Redcoat it's too early in the season to make the above comparison. Plus it doesn't help you. Five of the six wins by teams who have defeated the Finless come from two teams. That means one team's sole win for the season is vs Miami. Redskins record demonstrates they have feasted on the poor, which is what they are supposed to do. At the end of the season, it's Ws that determine whether you make the playoffs and they don't use video of how your got 'em.

Thanks RC. The first goal was a thing of beauty with the outer sole cross by Giggs? and Tevez getting his head on it in front of Chec...

Tevez is Argentinian, correct? Is that still a sore spot in the isles?

Agreed LH, I actually made an abortive attempt at trying to say that above and then gave up mid-post.

ND? I guess MV Dame would be pretty happy if we played them right now as they might have a chance to win a game!

Redcoat - Been watching any RWC? Happy with your boys?

Yes it was. No issues with the Argies Z, there are a few who have graced the EPL for many years now.

The issue that some people have with Tevez is more about him playing for West Ham last year and his goals keeping them in the EPL when he wasn't actually their player!! Me? I could care less.

The thing I've enjoyed about Man U in these last few years of Ferguson's reign is that they play high-tempo soccer but still play it with a great deal of skill. They're always fun to watch. Unlike Chelski....

Test

Watched some Kost, but it's been really ugly for us. We're well short of what we need to be to progress much further in the tournament.

I would say we'll be well beaten by the Aussies in the quarters - although, on any given day....

Nah, we'll get slaughtered!

Test - Your post worked buddy.

I think the Larkham injury hurts us, but like you said on any given *day!

Renaldo impressed me last night, and not about his step-over move, but he does have a repertoire of other nice feints and misdirection plays and gets the balls to others feet. I guess they use him more out wide and not as a top striker?

I think the All-Blacks will dominate, but out of nowhere will get knocked out in the semi's.

I hear ya RC. I got your point initially It just always cracks me up when people look back at 14 win teams and say "look at their opponents record compared to team X who went 3-13" I mean there are 11 loss' right there.

I like the Dolphins camparison and I like RC. Glad you are here.

Did you see that Brazilain chick last night?

It looked like she was lost dancing with the futbol, and forgot she was part of a world cup game!

I know what you mean Kost but I just can't see where we can hurt you. England has no identity at all. Are we a "9-man, keep it tight in the trenches and win with judicious kicking a-la 2003" team, or a "15-man everyone passes, everyone scores" team?

I think we're neither. We're just not very good. :-(

Randle El has a 21.6 yards per catch average. He hasn't been too shabby on punt returns either. They have Thrash. I am thinking they just need a 3rd young wide receiver from the draft. Moss seems to have become injury prone. And then a 4th receiver to back up Randle El. Fourth/Fifth wideout has to always be James Thrash.

At least they now have 2 starting wide receivers instead of 1 plus an assortment of backups led by James Thrash.

Its the OL that is now a problem. Jansen has had two major leg related injuries. Randy is now injury prone. They are going to have to come up with some youngsters who can step up next year. Its why they are having so many problems running the football.

And then there is cornerback.

I think the DL is reasonably set. LB's reasonably set. Obviously safety is their deepest position.

4th- Just got your email and pinged you back.

Hi blog!
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HTTR!! HTTB!!

I predict the Iggles put up more points than the Gints in an offensive shoot-out. Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 28, 2007 10:32 AM

Hope you're right, but not so sure about the shootout prediction. Dawkins and Brown (PB safety and corner) are probably going to be back in the Iggles secondary, so this should greatly improve the pass D. As for the O, Westbrook has rib issues and Lions D is god awful. Gints D seemed to get their act together in the 2nd half of the Skins game; think this would be a much better test of if/how well and Iggles O is returning to form.

Still, I think this is an away game we can steal to get back into the division race.

Adam

Thanks Kost!

Thanks Skinz, I'm happy to be here.

Z, Man U have never really used Ronaldo as a central striker, he is much more of an old-fashioned winger whose job is to make goals for others. When you think Ferguson bought him for about half of what he got from Madrid for Beckham you can see what a great piece of business that was!

Everyone got p*ssed with him to begin with over the stepovers, but he's always been much more than that and he's shown that for the last couple of years, he's really matured as a player.

I saw the Brazilian girl Kost and she does look really skillful, although there's some truly awful defending going on with her a lot of the time - she looks like she uses the same moves a LOT and the way to play someone like that is just to stand off and wait rather than dive-in. You can usually take the ball right off their toe when they start spinning.

I use it on the 20 year-old guys I play at soccer all the time!

Has the RI blog been hijacked by a bunch of foreigners? ;)

Living in this land where 'soccer' is always on tv, it pi$$es me off that the womens world cup is not on the tube. What a bunch of machismo! As if the men of this nation don't want the country to know that the German, Brazilian and American women would kick their mens national team's @$$es.

There once was a time when I too came here for the inside scoop on the happenings of my favorite team. But the inside information turned into a society of blogocrats that bragged about their aristocratic instrumentalities and unparalleled genius and wealth while snubbing the average fan.

Not all of us can be private financiers of our own mega dork enterprise or spend valuable time wasting away wine tasting and lusting after hot babes. The society of anons believes most of the diatribe is smoke and mirrors that help your poor geeky tormented souls feel better about your pocket protector and taped up glasses.

We must at some point come to a time and place where the cybersophisticates not allow themselves to denigrate the paper hat and burger flipping generation just to get a decent night sleep.

Also in regular attendance are the pompous and self appointed sophisticated and thoroughly boring blogocrats that go on with the endless diatribes of blah, blah, blah about everything that is not related to the subject at hand. Don't get me wrong I love a nice cool refreshing PBR but you dorks have turned a national icon of a beer into another one of your trashy microbrews.

So now you have some insight as to the thoughts and motives of the name droppers and the anons that frequent your blogosphere. Not all the droppers and anons are strangers to many of you but feed off the hypersensitivity and the over zealous defense of your great blog name.

Note: Opinion expressed here reflects only my opinion and is intended to entertain and not inflame.

Detroit - WIN
Greenbay - Loss
Arizona - Win
New England - Loss
Jets - Win
Eagles - Win
Cowboys - Loss
Tampa Bay - Win
Bills - Win
Chicago - Loss
Giants - Win
Vikings - Win
Cowboys - Loss

10-6...wild card to Playoffs...

I disagree that the d-line is set. Griffin is gettin long in the tooth, and injury prone. Daniels/Evans are mediocore, and Carter seems to take plays off. Golston and Monty are good young players. I'd say we are anything but set.

And if we're on the subject of the WWC, Greg Ryan may have put in the worst coaching performance of all time. Replacing Solo with Scurry for the game was incredibly stupid, but using his last 2 subs for defensive players when down 3-0 in the second half was just mind boggling.

Brazil looked/showed to be the better team last night and the horrid second yellow call on Boxx was a huge blow, but that game should/would have been significantly closer had someone benched Greg Ryan prior to it.

Adam

Well you have Tonga next, and you should put them to sleep.

Talking about sleep, I'm off, night all!

Q. What do you call a zoo with one Dog?

A. A Schitzu

GO YOU CATS!!!!!

Just before I go-

Bangkokben, they had the Matildas (Aussie Chicks) games on free to air here.

Posted by: not normal | September 28, 2007 11:28 AM

Now, this is confusing! I'm thinking it's not the not guy, but he used the not guy's name. Do we have a regular poster named "normal"? And, in a way it makes sense. The opposite of him would be normal, just like the opposite of 4-12 is 12-4.

So, here's my question. Should I paste this into the Wiki or just ignore it? I think not, but maybe the not guy just outwitted me (again).

Best part of that Chelsea Man U game was John Terry trying to swipe the red card from the Ref before he could show it. And in response to this grievous misdeed, the FA cracked down on Chelsea by doing...absolutely sjking nothing!

Adam, Team USA would have lost that game regardless of the coaching decisions. 1-0 or 2-0 or 4-0: it's all the same a loss in the semis. Brazil was better - period. It is my hope that our flame throwing goalie gets a chance to go solo with Marta in China so we can see how well she does. She showed a real lack of class.

Kost

Larkham going down really does hurt but we still have plenty of talent.

Gotta agree SMACK, Terry is definitely getting a free pass on that one. I suppose there has to be some advantage to being England captain!

I think you're right too LH, the calls made by the coach we're horrible but he didn't make the USA offense completely punchless. Solo should be benched for a good long while after throwing people under the bus like that. For her to say "I would make all those saves" is just arrogant.

I think is funny what everyone talks about on the bye week

Hey Cindy's toy, I didn't say that I suggested that we pick up TJ Duckett. I was just sharing with everyone my predictive powers.

Not only do I know who we should and should not pickup. I also know who the skins will pick up--regardless of whether they should have or not.

I find it irritating that folks reading posts are not smart enough to interpret them correctly.

I think we ignore 'not normal'. I have no idea what a 'blogocrat' is, and I have found this Blog very welcoming especially considering that I'm $) British, *) a Dolphins fan, and E) prone to drifting somewhat from the matter at hand.

And I've flipped burgers in my life, nothing wrong with earning a living.

And I meant to call you Cindy's Tool. Get a better name.

I have found this Blog very welcoming especially considering that I'm $) British,

Posted by: Redcoat | September 28, 2007 11:50 AM

You're British??!! That's different. Hey, everyone ITB -- Ignore the Brit. I thought all along you said you were Brutish. Blimey.

Oh dear...

You're British? Does that mean you're close to Argentina?

Detroit loss
arizona loss
gmen loss
eagles loss
vikings loss
The rest you might be right?

Presumably this lame stuff continues until RI forms a pefect replica of the inside of the head of the 'nots' et al, i.e. empty, devoid of any sentient thought.

What a shame that some people have so little.

RedCoat! I didn't mean to leave you hangin' - dang work!

Well, first let me address that McNabb comment - lol. I believe we beat the Eagles, not that they beat themselves. Their recievers were dropping balls because they were getting drilled. McNabb was being pressured at times and the effects were evident.

This now speaks to the philosophies I mentioned. To whit, the Redskins under Gibbs are designed to control a game through metered offensive success (let's not bring up execution here) and defense that stops scoring. Even with a small lead, as we saw against the Gints, the concept is to not give up the farm by taking chances.

I believe the Phins approach differs in two fundamental aspects. The offense is supposed to eat up a lot of yards fast (let's not bring up execution here... either! hehe) and score score score. The defense is meant to threaten, cause turnovers and chaos.

I do believe if Gibbs has any true success in the next two years, it will be an anomaly that may, but most likely may not, be attempted by future teams.

I also believe with the continued emphasis of individual performance and outclassing vs. team building and team play at the High School and College levels, not to mention leaving before 4 years, also contributes to a culture counter to Gibb's ideology.

man who lay woman on ground, get piece on earth

So is this a "drive-by fruiting" (great line that) by the 'nots' or some sort of a full-blown virtual 'sit-in' where they are in a circle singing "kumbaya" and chanting "the whole world is NOT listening"?

too many fake not posters Redcoat. eeesss bad.

man who eat too many prunes, get good run for money

LH - Brazil was the better team, but...

1st goal seemed a direct result of zero communication between goalie and field players; if goalie calls off defender, that's an easy save/catch. I'm putting that one squarely on Scurry and (by proxy) Ryan.

2nd goal was a great move by Marta (as well as so so defending) to get off a good shot, but the general rule of thumb is that goaltenders should not get beat from that angle on the near post. Not an easy save, but a very important one because...

If the US loses Boxx but goes into the half at 0-0, they could bunker down and play for pks/hope Brazil over commits to scoring and get a fortuitous counter attack to Wambach. Plus, it would have explained Ryan's sjking ridiculous 2nd half substitutions. Down 2-0 and having to chase 10v11, they were dead.

I feel Solo's comments were bad because they did dig a bit at Scurry and (ideally) they shouldn't have been aired in public. But I've got zero problem with her thinking she could have made the saves (to be honest, I'd be pretty pissed if she thought she couldn't make the saves; you want your goalie thinking they are a brick wall, regardless of how true/untrue that is) and she was 110% correct in her assessment of Greg Ryan.

Adam

Adam,

Thanks for your thoughts on the womens national team. I wholeheartedly concur. As for the Eagles against the Giants, I think the Giants 2nd half D was more to do with the 'skins not attacking with their strengths (running game) or against the Giants weaknesses (deep ball). There were obviously a few shots downfield but very seldomly were the receivers covered down field.

Ah, I see some ChickenSJK who won't post his ID is calling me out. Well, gutless wonder - let's look and see who DC can beat:

Lions - W
Pack - W
Cards - W
Pats - L
Jets - W
Iggles - L
Girlz - W
Bucs - L
Bills - W
Bears - W
Giants - W
Vikings - W
Girlz - W

Now I said - CAN, not necessarily will. But you never know - you really don't. No one had us beating the Eagles and we did, and we can again.

Now, if you want to play a game of what if, I can match you call by call. Pick a game & say why we're going to loose and I can explain why we're going to win.

Bottom line, you don't know until it happens.

So, If you're actually a skins fan who is just SJKing all over his own team - you need some anti-depressants. And if you're a fan of another team coming over here to compare DIK size, a) I got ya beat and b)if you're so confident we suk, why are you even here? You must be scared o' somethin... impotent weasel.

Sine Your Pitty on the Runny Kine

Geez ease up on the Red Bull Redcoat. You are getting paranoid... wait...

F REDCOAT

Coors Lite Guy:Hey Coach,did you see them guys that just took your ice cold Coors Lite?Who do they think they are?

Denny Green:They are who we thought they were!!!

Coors Lite Guy:Well if they are who you thought they were,why did'nt you stop them?

Denny Green:We let'em off the hook!!

Now that is some funny SJK right there.

To stir up funny debate:

How about Meee-Shawn?!

hahahahha

WaPO - blog is stuck again! lol.

No bull, I'd rather have Mee-shawn that McCardell. Key had a good year last year with Carolina, kept his mouth shut, and is a great blocking WR as well as a big target. I'd love that signing.

Bye weeks suck!

Here's something footbally to talk about. Rank the winless teams in order of likelihood of getting their first W this weekend...

Falcons (host 2-1 Texans)
Bills (host 1-2 Jets)
Rams (visit 3-0 Cowboys)
Dolphins (host 1-2 Raiders)

You're right about your game with the Eagles Dik, but I think it gave McNabb a wake-up call. He seemed to believe he could get well in his own time and could coast through games until then (the Packers loss was put on the punt returners not him).

When the Skins D stopped the run and roasted the receivers he couldn't do anything about it as he obviously wasn't mobile enough to either scramble until they could get open or even run himself on occasion. McNabb may only be an occasional scrambling QB now, but with 500lbs of metal on one leg he sure as heck scares no-one.

IMHO the biggest statement he made in that Lions game was that he took the brace off. That said "I'm back and I CAN beat you all on my own if I have to". Now the Lions D is NOT the Skins D, I grant you, but if THAT McNabb turns up in your second game you will have all the trouble you can handle. And I hate to think what he might do to us....

Interesting thoughts on the philosophies of the teams. I think you're just about bang-on with us, although our offense is supposed to be more balanced than it has been to date.

The funny thing is I think the Gibbs philosophy as you expound it IS high-risk. If you don't go for the kill when you're in front, ANY mistake could let the opposition back into the game. The timidity of the play-calling at the end of the second wquarter and in the second half (two-minute drill aside) was fundamental in allowing the Gints to build and maintain all the momentum in th egame. Only one team was trying to win, the other was just trying not to lose. Big difference.

I can't comment on college/HS football as I don't watch it (no interest) but if you're right and that is the emphasis it's going to be very hard to assemble Gibbs-type teams in the future.

Rams Rams Rams Rams, Rams Rams Rams Rams, Ramity Rams!!!!

And the flip side, rank the winful teams in order of likelihood of grabbing their first L this weekend...

Cowboys (host 0-3 Rams)
Packers (visit 1-2 Vikings)
Colts (host 2-1 Broncos)
Steelers (visit 1-2 Cardinals)
Patriots (visit 1-2 Bengals)

Nate:

Most likely to least likely...

Miami
Buffalo
Atlanta

St. Louis

Go Lambs!!
I like the fins over the raiduhs!

Nate:

Most likely to get L to least likely to get L:

Steelers
Packers
Patriots
Colts
Cowboys

Here's something footbally to talk about. Rank the winless teams in order of likelihood of getting their first W this weekend...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 28, 2007 12:49 PM

I don't like anyone's chances that well!! I think we probably have the best and it is nowhere near a gimme....

Does anyone even know who Buffalo's backup quarterback is?

And can anyone explain to me why that hit on Losman by Wilfork is only worth $12.5k? It was obviously intentional and VERY low.

It's true, Jack - that could help things... now, locker room is a diff. story. How ridiculous & insulting is that of the network to sit him next to the Tuna?

Parcells just bristles every time MeShawn opens his mouth. hahahahaha

Watch this link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

I don't see how that only gets $12.5k, he extends his forearm to ensure he hits him and he knows he can ONLY hit him at the knee.

The worst thing about Keyshawn is that he is as bad a presenter as he was good as a receiver. He should have played another year and got some serious coaching before embarrassing himself like that on TV.

I guess I'm SJKed in the Lloyd, Brandon pool.

As far as who is most likely to win this weekend, I'm going with the Fins since Porter made a guarantee and I have to stick with my fellow underwater friends.

RedC - I have absolutely NO idea how the NFL rates their fines. I understand you're not supposed to "disrespect the ball" (TO) but I don't see how it's the same as taking a player out w/ a cheap shot. And the fines are similar, it turns out.

-Good Point.

Emmitt Smith makes Keyshawn look like Dan Rather.

That's true bigfish, is Emmitt in the running for the 'worst ex-pro presenter ever' award?

What's the frequency, Emmitt?

He's ran away with the title IMO. I can't think of anyone worse than him. He can't even remember the names of the players that he's supposed to be talking about. I'd rather have Michael Irving back on the set.

For you bigfish

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2007/09/plea-to-espnplease-get-rid-of-emmitt.html

Nate,

I will take the 'Fins to get off the schnide, and the Packers to come back to earth a bit this week.

That clip RC put up about Wilfork leading with an elbow to Losman's knee is no suprise.

The Pats are a straight-dirty team. They are coached up that way.

I now put mental asterisks by all championships that involve Belicheat, Bill.

Bless you SC.

And at least Joey T. must be relieved to get rid of the "worst presenter ever" title... :-)

Thanks RC. They hit the nail on the head with that one. And I forgot all about this marvelous quote from Emmitt;

"You cannot change the stripes of a leopard." - Classic.

RC,

I am starting to think of Gibbs 2.0 in similar terms as Jimmy Johnson 2.0 in Miami. HOF coaches who probably had the game pass them by in some way that I am too mentally deficient to comprehend.

I like Jimmy Johnson as an announcer, although he did predict Washington would "struggle" this year back in Week 2.

Erratum: I meant JJ as an "analyst," not an announcer.

I enjoy babes in bikinis running around on the beach

Hey everybody, a little of topic. Me and my co-workers were having an in-depth conversation about occupations and had a question. Whats the difference between a turd burglar and a turd wrangler?

I love that quote. It should totally be a Bushism.

Please go away fake not guy

Well, one steals turds, the other wrangles them, presumably with a rope, though a good turd hug may work out great.

Last night's "The Office" was SJK-ing brilliant.

Hahaha, diddy, whats a turd hug? Is that anything close to the hug with fudgems on the Dominos commercial? If so, count me out!!

"Whats the difference between a turd burglar and a turd wrangler?"

Sounds like a good question for POOP.

You're right SC, but I still can't understand how Goodell can sit back once they see video evidence like that and do nothing.

That Wilfork didn't end Losman's career is less to do with intent than sheer dumb luck.

Pats are the Pistons (Bad Boys Days) of football.

You may be right about Johnson and Gibbs SC, but at least Gibbs 2.0 hasn't had a 'sacred cow' like Marino to deal with.

JJ built half a decent team here (defense) and wasn't allowed to tinker with the other half for fear of upsetting Danny too much. I'm a fully-fledged Marino-worshipper but even I think he might have been better off playing his last 5-10 years as a Viking or something. He may have won something too!!

Marino 1994-1998 as a Redskin, with norval turner's offense. I'z just askin......

RC- Evidently Goodell is loathe to suspend anyone associated with the New England Patheticals.

RC - Gibbs' sacred cow is Brunell. Haven't you been around here long enough to know that?

RC-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShJAEODWMc&mode=related&search=

Good old Norv would have found a way to screw that up anon.

Oh wait, this clip of Dan Marino is classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9LNPwZIGA&mode=related&search=

Thanks for the link SC, "never knowing who to throw to, when the blitz came in" LMGO!

Bigfish, Brunoodlenell was Gibbs' self-created sacred cow, I guess that's even worse. From what I understand even Shula thought long and hard about getting rid of Danny but just couldn't bear to do it, and if the Don couldn't do it, no-one else was ever going to be allowed to.

Maybe that's the key. Gibbs 1.0 was loyal but unsentimental (he kicked Joey T. out once he knew he couldn't get back) but he's definitely lost that edge now.

Do the Redskins need the avuncular 2.0 Joe Gibbs today or the 1.0 guy who would NOT accept anything that stood between him and success?

Rabies wins!

I've seen that one SC, it's great!!!

I used to work for a guy who knows Marino well, and he said that although Marino cultivates a friendly "everyman" sort of image, he's actually extremely hard-nosed. When he's serious, he's deadly serious and doesn't suffer fools at all.

Only to be expected from guys who have performed at the highest levels I suppose.

I didn't actually laugh until Micheal was eating linguini before the 5k - then I lost it... then on to "Sunny in Philadephia" and that's just classic. Frank & his gun are forever paired.

"Whats the difference between a turd burglar and a turd wrangler?"

Sounds like a good question for POOP.

Posted by: bigfish | September 28, 2007 01:41 PM

- the obvious answer is in the question Bigfish, burglars burgle and wranglers wrangle....

Last year, this blog was all about the local tackle football team and the rest of the teams "up here," with witty and whimsical posters, like MegSkin.

This year, nasty personal attacks on Jasno and other posters, as well as pages of BLAM (blog spam), such as "SIGN CHRIS COOLEY").

The change in tone just happened to begin around the time Dan $nyder's golf cart driver, George Michael, "retired" from Channel 4.

Coincidence?

He has a lot of free time now.

I'm just saying...

Something about JLC's post puzzled me.

"Don't see them taking a cvap hit on Lloyd now and might as well wait throught he end of the season"

k. What's a 'cvap'? Is that like 'kvetch'?
6. I thought that if Receiver, The gets cut right now his cap acceleration takes teh Skins over the cap which therefore makes that option impossible.

If 6. is correct, doesn't JLC know that or are we mistaken about the implications of cutting Retriever, The right now?

I'm just asking because if we're wrong on that, maybe he will get cut this year - at least that will cheer a few people up!!

Do the Redskins need the avuncular 2.0 Joe Gibbs today or the 1.0 guy who would NOT accept anything that stood between him and success?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 28, 2007 01:59 PM

I don't see much of a difference between Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0 myself (that may be the problem). It's people like Al Saunders, Dan Snyder and Vinny C that are thrown into the equation that make his 2nd run so much different than the first. That and the salary cap. Gibbs, JKC and Bethard could still field a Championship team these days IMO.

I went to college in Philadelphia. My roommate took a girl from South Philly to dinner at an Italian restaurant. The menu had a picture of the Eiffel tower on it. My roommate remarked to the girl: "That's funny, the menu has the Eiffel tower on it, and this is an Italian restaurant." Her response: "Yeah, and it's not even leaning."

The announcer malapropisms reminded me of the story.

Redcoat - I remember the rants he would lay on the recievers who didn't know how to run a route back then. Heck, I would start apologizing to the TV right there!

ARE seems to be one of the few recievers out there that understand the QB actually decides where the ball goes...

Santana & Brunhilda actually agreed on where it should go, but Como Va has yet to attain that agreement w/ Soup.

Can anyone confirm the rumor that Portis walks around the locker room with his boxer shorts on backwards?

To jump in on the Wilfork, elbow, and subsequent fine issue. Goodell just set the standard for knocking a qb out for a bunch of games. What team is going to say to themselves, for 12-grand, its worth it to dive at Tom Brady's knees, and knock him out for a while.

If I'm a defensive player playing against the pats, I might think about this.

I'm just saying....

I'd punch Tom Brady in the gosh darn mouth for $5.

Excellent story Mark from the future! I got a chuckle out of that one.

That Mark in Pylesville Maryland. Not years into the future you zany 'Fins fan

I'd punch POOP in his dirty whorish mouth.

*burp*

Ohhh .... Alfredo sauce... I'm gettin' cramps.

Gah! Watch the nipples, Kevin!

Back off me.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802c5b76&template=without-video&confirm=true

Love that story Mark. I'm going to say she must have been pretty good looking, because it sounds like her 'conversation skills' might have been a little lacking?

Hey Mark, isn't it time for you to go mowing?
One man went to mow, went to mow a meadow,
One man and his dog spot (and a bottle of pop), went to mow a meadow....

LMGO POOP! I think you'd get plenty of takers for free on that one.

And Greg, spot-on Sir. I can't believe that Goodell was so spineless. If we see a few 'Carson Palmer' type shots as the season gets to the business-end it will be all on him.

RC what do you think about Porter's guarantee?

RC, lets be honest, this league comes down to one thing, and that is winning. I think at this time the Pats have sufficiently pissed off enough people that something of this nature is not so far out of the realm of possibilities.

You can't piss in people's cheerios, and not expect some type of retribution.

Short response Skinz. He's an idiot, but he's our idiot.

Apparently he had a really high hit-rate with this when he was at the Steelers, but we're NOT the Steelers....

Maybe this is how he focuses himself, but why tell the world?

Yeah that's what I never got. What could possibly be the point of doing this and telling people about it. Maybe ther eis that, "oh snap now we better perform"

Problem is if you are one of the Taylor's aren't you like "What in heck are you talkin bout man?"

Eh, why not. It's not as if there's any recourse. Now if he'd said "I guarantee we'll win, or I'll donate a testicle to science", well then I might pay attention.

RC,

I'm hoping my wife will cut the lawn today, as I must start painting the cupola on the barn, and I am not fond of heights.