Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

I'm a bit new to the blog. What are TCCLs?

Agreed to an extent Jeff

Regardless of what Herm Edwards would say ("HE'S a Kicker"), I think thats kind of low for the kickers. I thought they've performed great and deserve a higher rating than the Dline, which still needs to smack around a quarterback.

How about 10 TCCL's for the 'teams in general.

12 for Sellers...He's a bad, bad man.

LB Marcus Washington told me he would like the rest of the country to continue to ignore the Redskins saying he hopes people weren't paying attention to their Monday Night win over Philly.. "I want us to be like crocodiles, we sit back, wait and bask and then we eat when we eat."

Rush actually said that McNabb was getting the benefit-of-the-doubt because he is a black QB -- because, according to Rush, the media is clamoring for a successful black QB.

http://www.slate.com/id/2089193/

Agree that Media overreacting to DMac story, and now we get all the weird "reverse rasism" rants....so tiresome......

TCCL definition can be found...

Here:

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/RI+Lingo

DorkCanforna is back with his negative comments about the 2-0 skins. Dude you are hardly around and when you are you shout sH!t.

Your too tough on Coach Joe for the clock management for last week. J Campbell said that the confusion came because the audio in his headset went out. Yes, there still needs to be a backup plan to execute but it wasn't the total incompetence that it appeared to be.

Yo, BDWESQTM, it stands for Tom Cruise Couch Leaps, cuz tom cruise is a big dbag.

do we have a link for the webchat?

New "She Says, Z Says" on cnnsi.com. I am massively in love with Brooklyn Decker. Even if she DID pick the Giants! She deserves a spanking for that one. Naughty, naughty zoot.

OF COURSE she picks NY, her name is BROOKLYN for SJK sakes!

How Now Brown Cow.

Where is everyone?

"...and then a second but much smaller (to wit, Shavian) earful about Jevon Kearse..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:41 AM

Shavian earful... Bryant Shaw... tiny ears... Anyone? Anyone? Too clever by half? Yeah, that's what I thought.

its interesting how mcnabbs comments surface now and not a month ago when mcnabb had the interview. I hate how the media likes to try and start fires to make more intersting stories....

what does "jumping the shark" mean?

If a tree falls on the Forrest and he cries like a p***y, does anyone hear it?

Diddy, if you enjoy "She Says, DBag Says", then you'll love "The Alternative with Jay Mohr" on FOX Sports. WAY funnier and his wife Nikki Cox makes a regular appearance (usually scantily clad) to make their picks for the week. I encourage all to check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

How about Wilbon dropping the N bomb in his column? Kind of takes my breath away to see that word on WashPo, but I absolutely understand why he used it. And I do agree with McNabb that the criticism of him has gone above and beyond what could be expected simply for poor play at QB.

I caught the whole HBO piece while I was in NYC and as usual McNabb made tons of sense. Not sure if it's available on the net or something but I would recommend watching the whole thing to provide some context. Not that James Brown was fishing for controversy, but he did press McNabb on the history of being criticized from many different angles.

McNabb looked really bad against us on Monday, the same kind of really bad we've seen a lot from Brett Favre during his long decline. Shaking your head because the guy used to be so very good. But he (McNabb) is only 30, and I hope he gets well and has a nice long career after leaving Philly and our division.

Diddy a little more help for those in wiki challenged work places, please

The thing is that Brooklyn and I have history. I've been lusting after her for more than a year now, she's been ignoring me for even longer. It's the kind of healthy relationship my mom told me to seek out.

From wiki:

"The term Jumping the shark alludes to a scene in the TV series, Happy Days, when the popular character, Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli, on water skis, literally jumps over a shark. The scene was so preposterous that many believed it to be an ill-advised attempt at reviving the declining ratings of the flagging show.

Since then, it has become a metaphor that has been used by U.S. TV critics and fans to denote the point at which the characters or plot of a TV series veer into a ridiculous, out-of-the-ordinary storyline. Typically, such a show is deemed to have passed its peak. Once a show has "jumped the shark," fans sense a noticeable decline in quality or feel the show has undergone too many changes to retain its original charm."

My favorite JTS moment is either Cousin Oliver on "The Brady Bunch", the replacement of Ponch and Jon on "CHiPs", or the signing of Norv Turner to be the head coach of the 'Skins.

The thing is that Brooklyn and I have history. I've been lusting after her for more than a year now, she's been ignoring me for even longer. It's the kind of healthy relationship my mom told me to seek out.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:26 PM

she has been ignoring you, too?? That two timer!

Rush was wrong. By the time McNabb came around, there were enough successful black QBs in the league to nullify his point. Not only that, over his career Brad Johnson had a few things McNabb has only had once (or never had at all): 1) effective receivers and tight ends, 2) a firm commitment to the running game, and 3) consistent RB production from decent runners. Alstott and Pittman combined were better than everything the Eagles trotted out until Brian Westbrook found his inner muse two season ago. And let's not even discuss that loaded Vikings offense Brad played with earlier in his career.

I am not an Eagles fan, but I certainly didn't root for McNabb because he is black. However, he is charismatic and athletic -- which makes him popular for similar reasons to, say, Michael Vick. Except McNabb is about 50 times the QB Vick was. Steve Young was charismatic, athletic and popular...and a better QB. Then again, Young also had a much better supporting cast: Jerry Rice, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Ricky Watters, Bill Walsh and others.

By the way, Rush and McNabb didn't say the same thing, Jeff. But someone else beat me to that point. Sounds to me like you saw what your preconceived notions led you to see.

I can't recall on Redskins.com
was it Sellers who was upset that the Skins aren't getting any respect?

Who cares about respect? I don't.
Just win baby... and the respect will come.
Meanwhile this team can sneak up on people.

For example on ESPN Salisbury and Hoage were salivating over the Packers and Texans being 2-0.

It's ok folks, maybe we can get some wins now, because that schedule sure does heat up in a few games! Yikes!!

HTTR!

The turmoil engulfing Red Sox Nation is ohh so sweet.

Hail To The Redskins!

MV Dame... you want to go back and start tallying how many posts people have made and we can measure our self worth by that # on the wiki?

even better, cindy could go back with the IP addys and see who posts the most as someone else. I'll confess I've done it a few times.

You keep your lusting, sinful eyes off that girl. She's MY sweet little potato pie.

In my typically nitpicky way, I took the liberty of amending the definition of TCCLs on the wiki. That bit about "jumping the shark" just didn't sound right to me.

A teevee show "jumps the shark" when it airs a moment which is just absurdly untrue to its very nature, usually in a desperate attempt to regain lost ratings, and everything from that point until the inevitable cancellation is tainted.

Tom Cruise Couch Leaps are not unrelated to jumping and to teevee. Tom Cruise demonstrated his delight in something by jumping up and down on a couch, on Oprah's teevee show. But that's where the connection ends.

TCCLs are used to measure praise doled out here on the blog. More TCCLs indicate higher praise. It has no similarity to the notion of faded glory, being past your prime, or whatever is embodied by the phrase "jumping the shark."

Blah blah blog. You all have permission to hate me for this post.

If a tree falls on the Forrest and he cries like a p***y, does anyone hear it?

Posted by: | September 21, 2007 12:20 PM

Classic Anon! ITA

My biggest JTS moment......when Law & Order started the spin-off "Juvenlie Court for crimes of Vandalism over $5000" or for CSI when CSI Fargo started.

I agree with Nate... I think the TCCLs have lost their original meaning.

I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks. If anyone watched the MNF game he was walking around smiling, overflowing with confidence because he believed that the game would already be his for the taking and that he could shine in the MNF spotlight. Then reality set in and the outcome was obvious ... your skills are no more and thats why the Iggles drafted Kolb. So what does he do, uses the black excuse....typical. Listen McKnobb, the black excuse has been worn down as much as the"Wuuuuuuz up" term. The spotlight isn't on you anymore and your confidence isn't what it was, so ditch the black excuse and practice more.

MV Dame... you want to go back and start tallying how many posts people have made and we can measure our self worth by that # on the wiki?

The simple answer, Dorf: no.

I'm two days from retirement like Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 14 and you want to put me on an exploding toilet?

Who are these a$$clowns on the chat trashing JC.......makes you really wonder about people...

McNabb is coming off knee surgery. It usually takes an additional season to recover. I have a feeling he'll be back in form next year. It's a worst to first League, you know.

As for the African American QB thing...I haven't seen the full HBO interview, so I'll refrain from commenting. The media love to take specific incendiary lines and blow them out of proportion.

I told you all there was a BEEP BEEP!, I believe a select few owe me an apology.

Also, Dorf, as discussed last week, I am a fan of the "classic" TCCL scale, which as I recall simply measured from 0 to 5.

This year has introduced a newfangled scale like something out of Doc Brown's lab which apparently can go from absolute zero (a zillion negative TCCLs) to infinity and beyond.

But I am change-averse, as a rule. 0 TCCLs for "change for change's sake."

Jeff, just curious, did you watch the entire HBO segment with McNabb's interview?

9 TCCLs to the Yankees, for making up 13 games on the Red Sox in the ranking.

I will give them 10 next week when they take first place

two in the pink, one in the stink

can somebody post the link to the chat?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/09/14/DI2007091401035.html

"I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks."

Jeff, you again miss the point completely. McNabb made those comments months ago in an interview. He wasn't trying to justify anything. He wasn't even talking about himself, nor was he speaking bitterly. It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

Read Wilbon's column for an intelligent take: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/20/AR2007092002688.html
Save you "black excuse" rants for Al Sharpton. Just because you don't bother to dig past your superficial perspective doesn't mean your view of reality is accurate.

Or you can keep the blinders on if you want...whatever.

Hey Nate. Yes I did and it seemed to me like this was a guy who obviusoly put too much onus on being black and how the world works as opposed to focusing on the fact that his skills have diminished and hios team has lost their spark. If McNabb and Iggles fail this year; expect to see him in Minnesota.

Does anyone remember the Simpsons episode where Bart is watching a "McBain" movie where McBain and his partner are at a bar and his partner Mendoza is sharing about how he's about to retire and go yachting with his wife and some scumbag who McBain busted comes back for revenge and kills his partner?

MENDOZA!!!!!

MV Dame, you reminded me of that... thanks!

McNabb's comment?

Look, why do we have to make race the focus?
Why did McNabb throw race into the question? Because he wanted to direct the attention off of himself that's why.

Fact: whomever is the QB in Philly, NY, Chicago
will have much worse scrutiny than the QB in Tampa, GB, KC, etc.

But hey, weren't we all brutally tough and honest about #8's poor performance here in DC last year?
Oh, he was white, and that doesn't count?

Double standard.
Excuse.

I dunno, Jeff, I saw it and didn't have at all the reaction I was led to believe I would have from all the hype. And I certainly didn't come away with the feeling you did, that (if I follow you) McNabb was trying to say that criticism of his play is not completely valid because people hold him to a higher/different standard than they hold white QBs.

Anyway, I repeat that I like the dude, and I want him to get healthy, get the heck out of our division, and wrap up his career in a happier place than Phillthy. I'm still guessing Chicago, his hometown, but you're right that MINN is a good guess too.

Jeff;

The interview was apparently prior to last weeks game and from the sound of it prior to the regular season starting. So its not an excuse.

All McNabb is saying is that he feels judged differently. Can you truly sit there and say HIS feelings are invalid? Have you lived one day as him?

As a whole I think we will never get past race in this country if we keep pointing it out. But then there are situations like the Jena 6. There is a lot more 'hidden' racism in this country versus the out and out in your face racism.

As a white person I feel in a privileged position b/c people put their guard down around me being white and say shti they shouldn't. Just from that I know there is still a lot or racist bigots in this country.

If you dont know about the Jena 6, enlighten yourself and do some reading.

and yes, I know the interview was prior to the start of the season... that is my point.

QB's in some cities will have it much harder regardless of their race!
Ask Eli Manning
Hey, ask Rex Grossman! They are all over him and were last year as well when they were winning!

Oh, and philly is know for their race issues.

I'm getting more and more paranoid about this game.

This is a classic trap game.

Division opponent.
Able to put up points.
Team "finally getting respect"
Opponent getting trashed by hometown media
Favorable matchups.

I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

Hey Nate, I hate McKnobb too but you have to admit he walked around with a swagger before the game because he thought the game was already won....ya by the Skins. its all an excuse on his part.

Again, Redskin Ray, if you watch the interview I think JB was pushing steering McNabb to analyze the nature of the criticism he has received throughout his career from many sources. And in the course of that analysis McNabb made some points about how he feels he is perceived, which have now been conflated into some racist/reverse-racist screed which just was not there. This is just my opinion.

Anyway, I feel like this conversation has jumped the shark. 0 TCCLs for us on this one.

Dame,

You're killin' with the lethal weapon ref. Did I mention I have a deep bone bruise in my ribs? No fair making me literally LMGO.

Jeff -> Redskins Ray
Redskin Ray -> Jeff

I'm officially nervous, last week nobody picked us to win, now every single expert on ESPN picks us to win this week, I like it better when Tom Jackson and Ditka are the only people who think we can win.

I wouldn't jump the shark. He might not appreciate it.

Plus, he's always chewing on that towel, which is a big turn-off.

okay, fun time is over... back to work

real work, not Ultimatum work

Skinz, I feel the same way... we're getting too proud... let's hope the fellers actually putting helmets on this weekend arent'.

I don't see the making excuses thing. Isn't it at least possible that he can discuss what he thinks is unfair criticism AND take responsibility for his play? Because I think McNabb is a smart guy and capable of both.

Ugh. Why are we still talking about this? Are we that hard up? Should we go back to random quote generation? :)

Lets all have a cry for Zebra, boo friggin hoo. This isn't about a racially hick town in Louisana Zebra. Its about a has been, stuck up quaterback who made a bone head comment. Oh ya and Zebra, I would like to be in his shoes making all that money, you knw what I would do......leave Philly. Go to another chat room Zebra that talks about racial equality, we are talking football.

Wow people sound stupid up here today....

Haha Emitt didn't pick us. I can just hear him now on TV.

"Redskins has good players but Manning have all the tools at his disposal to pull off a win."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/notebook?page=sundaycountdown07

skins need to get up on the jizants early and take their will out of the game. cuz NY can score... we don't want to let them hang around into the 4th quarter & definately don't want to have to play catch up with 'em. They have no confidence at all, let's keep it that way and crush them early.

Redskin Ray:

Race was the focus because he gave an honest answer to the question he was asked. To McNabb's credit, he didn't shirk from the question. He tackled it head-on. To paraphrase Wilbon: nobody called Mark Brunell, Rex Grossman or anybody else a n___er, a cracker or anything else racial because of their poor play. But McNabb gets that kind of abuse from Philly fans -- just like Doug Williams did when he played for the Bucs.

That's right: even after all this time, nothing has changed for some ignorant folks. Comparing that to critiques of Rex Grossman's performance is ignorant at best and downright slimy at worst.

It's mind-boggling how people can't seem to have an intelligent, reasonable conversation about race. A black person says there might be some bias, and it seems that a whole lot of non-black people react by immediately throwing up their hands and shouting, "OHMIGOD WHYAREWETALKINGABOUTTHISAGAIN GETOVERIT!!!11one!"

Like I said, save your venom for the real rabble-rousers like Sharpton. Jason is right: too big a deal is being made of this.

We hit 900 comments on the last thread... remember when hitting a total like that was a big deal up here?

Anyway, we're rocking and rolling our way towards 100k... let's keep going, get as many comments as possible before we break for the weekend...

I promise, I promise, there will be NO MORE MILESTONES after we hit 100k (sometime tomorrow??)...

Anyway, about the game: I could definitely see the 'Skins blowing this one. Every time a team loses, they become more desperate - and every time a team wins, they become less desperate. Factor in the division rivalry and media all picking the Skins, and you have a recipe for an upset.

Nothing gives white people hard ons like oppurtunity to scream "reverse rascism".....like SWEET we get in on some of this!!!!

I hear ya Chris LaRry

When I first heard what McNabb said, I took offense. But after watching the interview, I don't see what the big deal is.

What he said is NOTHING like what Rush Limpd**k said. Rush alluded to him getting special treatment because the liberal media wanted a black QB to do well. McNabb said that black QB's get extra criticism because they are black.

I've never been a black QB so I don't know if it's true or not but McNabb has been classy throught his career so he's earned the benefit of the doubt.

Nate,

Don't let Cyn Cyty see that post. Next thing you know we'll be on Boren our way to 1 meeelyon. (with my pinky turned backwards and pressed to my the corner of my mouth)

We'll call it the Allan Parson's Project.

Chris Larry: it is disturbing how true that is and how right you are...except I would amend it to "some white people."

You can always email me at - lacanforaj@washpost.com - or find me on the blog, Redskins Insider. YEAH RIGHT!

J-La balks at posting a DEVO song title "Jocko Homo" which shuffled by on his ipod during the chat. It's not a gay context, it's just typically weird DEVO Esperanto style language manipulation. Just for the record.

And just for the record, it IS a great record, "Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are DEVO." I do love DEVO.

Nothing gives white people hard ons like oppurtunity to scream "reverse rascism".....like SWEET we get in on some of this!!!!
Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 01:07 PM

There is no such thing. Racism is racism. Period.

McNabb is like Mike Vick was in Atlanta last year without the mobility. He has the arm but the targets aren't getting open. When he was mobile, those scrambles would have allowed his mediocre receivers to break off their route and get open. Right now, all he has is B Westbrook out of the backfield. Those other guys get no separation off the line on most downs. Vick would get unwarranted criticism because he would take off running. Couldn't blame the guy because other than Crumpler, nobody there hung on to the ball much.

etrod, I was just about to ask you how long you've been a black quarterback!

JLC, I feel your pain with the Bo Sox. I am a Mets fan and watching them crumble this past week is tough... I can only hope they turn this around, get healthy quick and make a big post season run through October. This really sucks... And to see the Yankees going strong now - just bites even more.

But I still got my Skinz playing tough...

Hail!

I hate to even dip my toe in this.

I don't think anything that McNabb said had even the slightest bit of reverse racism. I just think what he said was idiotic and wrong.

There is a very simple way for Mcnabb or any other QB to end the critism. Stop cashing the paychecks and retire.

There are plenty of things that I don't care for at work and I have the right to stop coming at any time.

i think etrod is a retrod

plaxico hasn't practiced all week... is he playing? if he does L2 should just put him out of his misery..

Boo hyper-sensitive white people!

Hooray Beer!

E in VB - Hi I'm bigfish, longtime Mets fans and I feel you pain brutha.

At least I know how to spell "yeah".

J-Cab

yeah should have said "some"....I am white by the way so I have racial self hater rights...

Jasno, answered my ridiculous question on the chat. Don't know why that made my day.

I posted an interesting take on this all Donovan McNabb shabingus days ago from Jason Whitlock of Fox.com. His points are that QB's are now perceived as management by the other players and that he has criticized by his own black players as result of not supporting TO desire for more money.

McNabb ain't nothing but a nappy headed ho.

Calmer than you guys are..

I asked Jasno if he planned on giving J3 a spare set of keys to the blog but he didn't answer.

First post on this chat... so who brought up race d-bag Jeff

"Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:00 PM "

previous post should say has been not has criticized.

Staggering possibility this week: If the Skins win and the Eagles and Dolphins lose, our team will be 3-0 and all of their opponents will be 0-3.

PLEASE... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE SOME NOISE ON SUNDAY! Especially all my fellow season tix holders in the nose-bleeds

Jeff = David Duke

I do love DEVO.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 01:13 PM

Hey Nate, Mrs Redcoat just decided that she and I will be appearing as Devo from 'Whip It' at Thanksgiving. The Energy Domes have been ordered!!

Come back to Ashburn for 10/31 and join us!!

Dang, Redcoat... that is awesome, but do you think any of the squares in Ashburn will get it?

So the poms do thanksgiving on Halloween. I know you were different.

HaHa...this little tid-bit from the chat bears repeating:

"Herndon, Va.: ENOUGH with the music comments!

Jason La Canfora: sorry bro, it's my chat and i'll ipod if i want to"

John from Herndon? All I can say is, if the 'Skins lose to the lowly Gints, John's heart will be extremely broken.

"Redskins, why do you break my heart??"

[A classic line in RI history]

Yes Zebrat, you are right I intially brought it up in relation the to the article that also talked about the O-line and other REDSKINS related topics. The McKnobb was posted at the bottom of the article and I responded to it because I don't think it belongs here. Listen D bag(oh such strong words) why don't you move to Louisana and make a difference.

To the rest of the Skins fans, I think Plaxico is a game time decision.

So the poms do thanksgiving on Halloween. I know you were different.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 21, 2007 01:32 PM

Huh?

I'm tired of all the the people who are saying McNabb should shut up and play. I bet you the ones whon are thinking and saying this are from the caucasian persuasion or other race. Don't tell me the whole "He's a BLACK quaterback?" thing died when Doug Williams lifted the trophy. You know why? It still took another couple of years for Warren Moon to throw an NFL pass and even then you could count on two fingers the amount of black quateracks. It sickens me to hear people come with that "We've come along way" crap, it's bulls&@*! Everyone knows it. Let me tell you this country, this world will never come to a time where you look at a person of differnt race, color, religion, or orgin and physically see them as exactly like you, or in some case equal. Donovan McNabb told the abso truth and I LOVE how he stuck by his comments, no moonwalkin or flip-floppin. Here is an example of how racial equality is a jike in this country, well a few.

1)Affrimitive Action - if everything was so damn hunky dory, why is it needed? And if I could I would smack the first muthaf@&* who said "The individual best qualified for the job always gets the job".

2) Don Imus vs. Lamar Thomas - You probably don't know who Lamar Thomas is, huh? He's the guy who was fired for his on air comments regarding the The "U" and FIU brawl. Should he been fired? Yes. It was completley unprofessional, especially given it is during a fight with teenagers on the field. Note to Lamar Thomas: Its probably not good to promote violence among teenagers. By now we are all familiar with the comments made by one, Don Imus. What he said wasn't just degarding to that basketball team, but to all women, especially black women. (FTR, I don't know any nappy headed white women)So when CBS decided to axe his a$$ I had no issues what so ever. What surprised me was the uproar about his termination. 'Are you F'n kiddin me?' He refered to them as "Nappy headed hoes", where the beef? Oh and the kicker to me is the fact that people try to justify it by saying "Well, what about 'Rap' music?" Again, are you REALLY F'n kiddin me? Hip Hop is not real. 95% of what is said in hip hop or rap songs is not real. People don't care to pick the brain of 50 Cent, Kanye West, or T.I. on political issues, global warming, the iraq war, etc... They do with Don Imus. He was, excuse me, still is adored my millions of americans, which means they somewhat value his opinion, and it is a safe bet they'd agree on 90% of the crap that shoots out his face portal. Bottom line, Lamar Thomas (Miami U alumnus) is fired the next day, after his comments saying, "You don't bring that stuff to the OB baby." Y'alls (america) boy Don "Cause" Imus calls a basketball team "Nappy headed hoes" and "Jiggaboos", gets told to sit in acorner for a couple of days and when the cheddar starts to melt, tell him to get the steppin. Double Standarded. For who? I'll let you decide. All that racial equality, justice for all nonsense, can be told to a ignorant fool who dosen't know any better.

Hey I'm just saying, I will be sure to bring that up at my poker game tonight with my black friends who not only agree with me but when i beat them at Texas Hold em' they won't say they were trgeted for losing becuase they were black. Friggin dummy.

bangkokben, 'Coat, funny funny.

Nate,

What do you think about generating a list of the classic, all-time best RI quotes?

Sounds like fun.

This is the dumb sh*% im talkin about right here!

First post on this chat... so who brought up race d-bag Jeff

"Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:00 PM "

Leave it to one of the fine people on RI to dress his a$$ up and set him straight.

JLa quit your whining. The Sawx have the 3rd best record in the majors since the All Star break. Unfortunately for the them the Yankees have the best record over the same period. Your boys are going to make the playoffs whether or not they win the AL East. Hold your head up son. Didn't they win their last World Series as a wild card?

Hey Drama King, the truth hurts doesn't it. The fact of the matter is there will always be racism in the world but the point that people in the NFL are trying to prove is that you shouldn't be judged by your colour when it comes to winning football games. Rex Grossman isn't saying that. Drama King= dumbass

Jeff, I'm hoping you're not as hidebound and uninformed in your views as you come across.

As a European conservative with a small 'c', which makes me a 'bleeding heart Liberal' over here, I want to believe the best of all people, but you're really not presenting yourself in a very enlightened way.

You keep referring to McNabb making 'excuses' for his play, when he had not yet played even a pre-season snap when the interview was conducted. What did he need to excuse back then pray tell?

If you don't like him because he's the Philly quarterback just say that and move on. McNabb's entitled to his opinion about how he's treated; neither you nor I are really in any position to posit on whether he's right or not.

What? you make no sense.

Your original post was about Mcnabb and limbaugh. Jasno had it in his second to last tccl... so that is why you responded. And if it doesnt belong here, then why respond? And then you proceeded to put your foot in your mouth by saying it was the same as limbaugh.

then people, like myself called you out and then you said lets not talk about race. Talk about backtracking.

I really dont understand why you want to cry for me or think I am a brat, I wasnt crying about anything. Just your position on the topic was stupid and I was pointing that out.

So keep talking so everyone can ignore you.

So... how 'bout them Redskins?

My dad is black and my mom is white so I see both sides easily but I don't get involved in race wars therefore I will not comment.

Wake me up when this turns back into the blog that we all know and love.

Why are we even bickering about McNabb. We all know he whines when things don't go his way.

I agreed with Skinz, he said something idiotic because he can't handle a little verbal abuse the same way he couldn't handle TO.

The sad part is he made this a racial issue when it really ought not to be. It was the iggles fan they boo anyone. Let's stop accusing each other of getting a boner out of calling another racist.

Let's focus on beating the crap out of the Jints instead.

HTTR.

Yawn....

Actually alot of people are talking about me on here, and I love it. I must be pulling a "McNabb".

How bout them redskins!

Personal attacks seldom win arguments.

Reading this thread, I feel like I am sitting in the middle of one of my old political science classes.

I just don't think we will resolve the race issue up here. Can we talk about the Redskins, maybe?

*ducks his head from all the incoming vitriol*

McNabb should shutup and play.

Your living up to your name Drama King.

Jeff just because Limbaugh was talking about the same person doesn't mean he was saying the same thing. He was actually saying almost the antithesis of what Limbaugh said. You're an idiot.

ITA

This well be the last post about this...
Don't act like racial inequality dosen't exist. You probably are reminded when you look at another human who does not look like you and you from your conclusions about that persons race, whether good or bad. It's out there people. I find it pleasing to hear that other people, besides blacks, express the same sentiment and know this is still taking place.

...Unless you're arguing with Sean Taylor.

Time for a blogsprint... let's get the mojo back.

Somebody fire out a topic, something we can rapidly riff on...

Favorite RI line:

John from Herndon (c. 2006 loss to Iggles to drop out of playoff race)

"Redskins, WHY DO YOU BREAK MY HEART?!?!"

This line concisely summed up my feelings of the '06 season (when I went under the moniker "disappointed").

panties

I say IJTA and let's talk Redskins. I know, I'm a huge hypocrite b/c I'm the King of Jibba Jabba, it's a real place ya know. But some folks (Jeff) are just here to spout venom.

Drama King, your name suits you. No one claimed it doesn't exist. It's just that not everything is about racism.

I agree with your first point to Drama King, I'm just sayin. Oh I'm an idiot, maybe is because I'm mexican, thats is isn't u racist bastard

thongs

Nate, it was NOT random quote generation ... it was the Statement Game. [Invented by yours truly, inspired by you saying that this game was a game where the Skins needed to make a statement. I think you actually put it in quotes, "statement" game.]

Also, did I just read someone type "some of my best friends are black"? I thought that was only on television. White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

I don't really have much that I'm "looking for" from the Skins on offense. Kind of going to kick back in a lawn chair kind of way and see what they have to show me. I'm back in full pre-season mode on offense, i.e., PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't anybody get injured. Its the defense that will keep me nervous (and I don't want anybody there to get injured either). Return to my regularly scheduled irrational timidity.

p.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Bloomers

.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

I think that's Jeff and it's called a cross burning.

Megan Fox

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/655384/megan_fox_transformers_clip/

"Loud Noises!"

Slender-alls

I kid, I kid, sween. I knew it wasn't random quote generation, it was a very, very serious game.

SCSkinsFan, the game you propose sounds like too much work! For up here, for the Ultimatum, I mean. All time greatest posts is a GREAT project for the wiki.

Why can't Mexican have BBQ's

The beans fall through the grill

bikini briefs

underoos.

French cut bikinis

Why does Michael Jackson shop at K-Mart?

He heard little boys' pants were half off.

boxers

Do you think we start blitzing L2 more this week knowing that eli gets rattled whe he gets hit. and who do we put on shockey to keep him quiet.

DONT NEED A F'N REMINDER WHY COMMENTS FROM ME HAVE THIS NAME ATTACHED TO IT!!!! ME A RACIST, HARDLY, LOL. I TELL WHATS ON MY MIND, AND GIVE TWO SH*TS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. TRUTHFULLY, I COULDNT TELL A WHITE MAN, OR A MAN WITH MEXICAN DECENT WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK IN THEIR SHOES, JUST LIKE HOW YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK IN THE SHOES OF A BLACK MAN. IT IS TRUE THAT EVERYTHING IS NOT ABOUT RACE, BUT TELL ME HOW EASY IT IS TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT WHEN THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN IS FOUND IN PROBABLY LIKE 65% OF THE US POPULATION, MAYBE HIGHER. LOOK I'M EVEN DONE WITH TALKIN ABOUT THIS. TWO THINGS THAT SHOULD NEVER BE BROUGHT UP. ONE, POLITICS. TWO, RACIAL AND RELIGION ISSUES, IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO PISS EVERYONE OFF, AND DESPITE THE NAME I REALLY DON'T ENJOY DRAMA. CAREFREE IS THE WAY TO BE! HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY EVERYONE

G-strings

Uhhhhg, I'm beginning to miss the statement sprint. What I really want is to migrate to another blog. I stay for the ol' timers. You're my boy Blue!!!!

I digress:

5 TCCL: Buges-another injury another fine game by the O-line. I personally think you one crazy son of a SJK but you sure can "coach-em-up"

5 TCCL: Winning- At midnight on monday night myself and two other grown men were jumping up and down giggling like 12 year old school girls slapping "fives" with my dog looking at us like we are idiots.

4 TCCL: The new Bois on D- Rocky, LFB and L2 flying to the ball.

4 TCCL: Sellers- My man crush on you continues. I see a Pro Bowl invite for you this year.

3 TCCL: Right side of the line- Good job last week. Keep it up you have a far more stern test upcoming.

2 TCCL: Cooley's involvement- TD catch aside, I don't see him involved as much as i'd like. I think him being a threat in the passing game is the key to our O this year.

1 TCCL: Politics, Religion and Race on the blog- It's divisive and doesn't belong here. There are other forums to discuss such things.

Please see the rules regarding the caps lock key.

ITA

crotchless

White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

American privilege is invisible to most Americans. Some of you fine folks should go live or just visit a third world country (not Cancun or Aruba!) and see how good both Black and White people have it in America!

From an ESPN chat:

John(Manhatten): Do you think Sean Taylor and Laron Landry will be more feared for their hard hitting or their playmaking abilities?

Matt Williamson: (12:23 PM ET ) Both. Those two are bad bad men. I guess their striking ability. Killers.

I think the Skins need to apply a liberal dose of L2 to Eli's face the same way LSU did in that clip on the RI wiki

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/Video+Pages

(first vid)

Thank God it's Friday.

p.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

You're referring to Guy Fawkes Night 'sween. It 'celebrates' a failed plot by conspirators to blow up the houses of parliament with barrels of gunpowder while the representatives were in there at the time on November 5th, 1605.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

Traditionally people would build a bonfire and put a 'Guy' on the top (Guy was named for Guido Fawkes, leader of the plot). A 'Guy' is actually a dummy made out of old clothes stuffed with newspaper, with a fake head on the top. While the bonfire burns kids used to sing "Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot"

The idea was that you let fireworks off (to celebrate the gunpowder part of the plot) and then burn the Guy on the bonfire.

The actual conspirators weren't burnt, that would be barbaric; I believe they were hung, drawn (while still alive) and quartered, and then their severed heads were placed on spikes at the Tower of London until they rotted.

It was still a big deal with bonfiresd in most people's backywards when I was growing up, but mostly it's just official firework displays now as SO many people had been injured/killed by fireworks over the years.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

--Jack Handy

Some of you should step off your high horse, get off the cross and quit assuming you know who you are talking to. It's really tiresome and ignorant.

Now getting back to the basics...

The four keys to the game
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=29486

Should see a great matchup with Jermey Shockey vs. Fletcher/Washington/Landry.

Who is the RB for the Giants, Jacobs is still out right?

I second the ITA.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

--Jack Handy

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:03 PM

LMGO

Redcoat,

Either Jeff is a troll or he's completely blind. At this point, he either deserves pity or loathing.

After winning the Super Bowl, Doug Williams was asked, "What was the lowest point in your career?" He replied that once, when he was on the Bucs, he played a bad game and his team lost. A couple of days later, he got a package in the mail wrapped in beautiful paper with a bow on it. Inside the package was a rotten grapefruit. The grapefruit had a note attached to it: "If it wasn't for your black a*s, we would have won."

Despite playing in a time that was a lot less kind to black QBs, that was STILL the lowest point in Doug Williams' career. It's not just something that "goes with the territory" for anyone. Only someone who had never had an experience like that would say something so incredibly ignorant.

According to some, McNabb faces similar criticism: people in the Philly stands calling him the n-word when he plays badly.

Nobody in their right mind would compare the criticism Rex Grossman or Eli Manning gets to the type of hate I just described. If you do, you're a damn fool. Period.

And the same people that say "not everything is about race" are the people who say that *every time* an issue like this comes up. How many people have ever said, "Every single solitary thing in this world is about race"? McNabb never even said that his treatment was "all about race" - he just said it was a factor in the way people view his career. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jason blogged about it, so it's fair game. If you want to be annoyed that people are discussing this, be annoyed at him for bringing it up. Personally, I'm glad he allows stuff like that in every so often.

Redcoat, the inspiration for V for Vendetta, correct?

Good movie BTW

Interesting.... Jeff spelled color with a "u".

Big Fish,

Me too...

Huge game tonight... We have to turn it around now... 1.5 games is not much with 9 or 10 games to go... Reyes needs to pick his head up and sto pressing. He's got too much talent to be down on himself. Everybody has slumps but enough is enough... Willie and or Rickey need to give him a big pep talk if they haven't yet. I'm glad we have Pedro on the mound 2night. I'm trying my best to stay positive, but blowing the leads we keep blowing and the lack of production from a couple of key guys is really hurting.

I think Willie is taking some unfair criticism! It's a bit exaggerated. What is he supposed to say, 'Hey - we suck I think we're screwed, put a fork in us... we're done.' Come on... Now, granted, some of his comments have been a bit shocking considering the situation they are in... but no way he should loose his job if they continue to collapse. HOWEVER, if he's not getting in some players faces and challenging them and making understand the urgency of what they have left in the season... then he's not doing his job.

Rick Peterson needs to start coaching up this staff.. they have struggled since the all start break with their consistency...

Time to be Big Time, guys!

White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

American privilege is invisible to most Americans. Some of you fine folks should go live or just visit a third world country (not Cancun or Aruba!) and see how good both Black and White people have it in America!

Posted by: Forrest | September 21, 2007 02:01 PM

Served 6 years in the US Army. Been to Iraq x2. Nothing nice about that place, very depressing actually. Yes, it does make you long for home.

Yep Z, that was the inspiration, right down to the mask 'V' wears being the same as the design that was always sold to put on the dummies.

I agree, it was a really good movie.

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Just got done talking to my co-worker who is a huge eagles fan. She rolled her eyes and said "I just hope they win this weekend" when I asked "What's up with your boy McNabb?"

We are fickle people that care about winning and losing. If you don't think its that simple, I apologize.

I promise, I promise, there will be NO MORE MILESTONES after we hit 100k (sometime tomorrow??)...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 01:04 PM

Hopefully then megskin will come back to grace us with her presence

anyone remember when the blog used to be fun?

These will be the best receivers the Redskins have faced yet. Despite the "Plexiglass" stuff, Plaxico has actually developed into a very dangerous receiver over the years. And Toomer is consistently good, especially against the 'Skins. I think the Redskins' secondary play will be the key to the game (along with the o-line, of course).

LOL, one word for you Drama King " Prozac".

A Vicky's Teddy w the snap button crouch!

***Baseball related post***

Very well put E in VB. I agree with everything you said but the number 1 problem IMO is the bullpen. Blowing leads like they have too often in the last couple weeks is just unacceptable, especially last night (horrible). Our offense keeps putting up the numbers but the bullpen keeps losing the games against bad tems like the Nats and the Marlins. Meanwhile Philly is hot on our tails. I hope things get turned around very quickly starting tonight.

Anyone notice that Lisa has been missing mostly since JM has been gone for Ramadan?

Just sayin' is all...

Not sure if this has been linked. Lot's o skin questions.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=17332

I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks. If anyone watched the MNF game he was walking around smiling, overflowing with confidence because he believed that the game would already be his for the taking and that he could shine in the MNF spotlight. Then reality set in and the outcome was obvious ... your skills are no more and thats why the Iggles drafted Kolb. So what does he do, uses the black excuse....typical. Listen McKnobb, the black excuse has been worn down as much as the"Wuuuuuuz up" term. The spotlight isn't on you anymore and your confidence isn't what it was, so ditch the black excuse and practice more.

You sound like a real Idiot with the whole black excuse thing. It was hardly ended just because Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. You Idiot!!!!

And the same people that say "not everything is about race" are the people who say that *every time* an issue like this comes up.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 02:05 PM

I agree I'd say it every time for issues like this--which is not about racism. But won't say it for other issues that are.

jcabana,

what you last posted... i agree completly. at this time though, its best to let it go and let the peeps who try to be numb to the notion of racial inequality live in their damn fantasy worlds. BTW, Hunky Dory citizens of the USofA, is it possible i could get number of your travel agents, becuase it is obvious you don't live on this planet. Letting it go... letting it go... letting go... now... gone.

Jeff Hayes!

Haven't seen your name in a while. After seeing what Sean Taylor did to that punter, I don't blame you. You should have been here yesterday during the "statement game". A complete blast.

As an airplane is about to crash, a female passenger jumps up frantically and announces, "If I'm going to die, I want to die feeling like a woman."

She removes all her clothing and asks, "Is there someone on this plane who is man enough to make me feel like a woman?"

A man stands up, removes his shirt and says, "Here, iron this!".

jcabana, maybe facing a better set of WRs in this game, but not necessarily a better QB. I would say Elisha is as capable of screwing up as old Trent Green and old, hurt McNabb, and far more susceptible to getting flustered than either of those two.

I told you all there was a BEEP BEEP!, I believe a select few owe me an apology.

Posted by: C-lo | September 21, 2007 12:39 PM

Hey, C-lo - here's your apology, RI-style:

F off.

A husband and wife and their two sons are watching TV. She looks at her husband and winks at him, he gets the message and says, "Excuse us for a few minutes boys, we're going up to our room for a little while."

Pretty soon one of the boys becomes curious, goes upstairs and sees the door to his parents bedroom is ajar. He peeks in for a few minutes, trots downstairs, gets his little brother and takes him up to peek into the bedroom.

"Before you look in there," he says, "keep in mind this is the same woman who smacked our a$$es just for sucking our thumbs."

***Baseball related post***

Bigfish... Very True.

The bullpen was the staple of this team last year. Now, it is the demise!

Philly is damn hot and they have become so accustomed to their skethcy pitching that they know they have to come from behind every game and it doesn't phase them anymore.... That is scary.

Throwing the ITA flag on myself for bad grammar and perpetuating the conversation.

TGIF and HTTR.

Let's blitz LBM, shut down the sidelines, and force Plax and Shox to go inside Area 51.

LOL, one word for you Drama King " Prozac".

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 02:12 PM

Does it work for cataracts? Oh well about to get my daily 10 grams anyway

An old man in the nursing home got a bottle of wine for his birthday. He talked the old lady in the next room into sharing it with him.

After they were both totally bombed, he started groping the old lady and pulling at her clothes. He managed to get her blouse and bra off before she stopped him.

She said, "I can't do this, I have acute angina".

The old guy says "God, I hope so cause you've got the ugliest tits I've ever seen."

A man says to his wife "Get your coat on. I'm going down to the bar."

His wife replies "Oh, you're taking me out for a drink? How nice!"

The man says "Don't be stupid. I'm turning off the heat."

Wait, so it's going to be off-colour jokes then? I'm as lousy with jokes as I am with everything else.

Dare I ask for another topic to be suggested?

Just need a few more comments from each of you before you leave work today.

Just a few comments, on ANYTHING, with extra bonus points for making it Skins-related.

If you don't chip in your buck oh five, who will?

Dare I ask for another topic to be suggested?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 02:25 PM

How about McNabb's comments?

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:10 PM

Exactly.

mmok said they prefer boxers, to which i thought mmok is a she.
'
Then I remembered my days at private school.

Freshman year, one of the cutest girls in the class, sitting across the room, with boxers on underneath her rolled up skirt. I was just staring at her crotchal region (hey i was 14 and I wanted to know why i was drawn to this area of her body)... so she notices and calls me out in the middle of class.

I was embarrassed for a second since event he teach heard, then I quipped back loudly "well if you would close your legs I would have nothing to stare at wouldnt I?" You heard a couple "D@mn!!!s form the other guys in the room.

Funny S...

"Help him."

"Help who?"

"Help the bombardier."

"I'm the bombardier!"

"Help him!"

Drama King, Brandon Jacobs replacement is a guy named Derrick Ward. Do a search in the previous post. He is one of guys that gives me pause. [He leaped frogged from #3 to #1 and Reuben Droughns remains the proverbial Ladell Betts, only without the yardage.]

If we are just going for post number i'd prefer just do a dot or something. Easier to scroll through.

I know this is in 'olde English' but as a Brit it stirs my heart to hear it just the same.

I wonder whether anyone makes 'blood and thunder' type speeches in locker-rooms any more before games, or is it "remember your assignments, now go out and do your best" stuff now?

If we are marked to die, we are now
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.

God's will, I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It earns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.

No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God's peace, I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me,
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more.

Rather proclaim it presently through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart. His passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

This day is called the Feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a-tiptoe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.

He that shall see this day and live to old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian":
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars
And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."

Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remembered.

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he today that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now abed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap while any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Shakespeare's version of Henry V's speech to his hugely outnumbered army before the Battle of Agincourt.

* St Crispin's Day is 10/25 so sadly no games that day this year!

bigfish, I hope Larry Bud isn't reading right now. You've got to be doing a number on his bruised ribs.

They call me tater salad

My wife spells color with a "u" also. Hmmmmm.

Redskins

.

3. Don't be scared by Washington's patchwork offensive line (Jason Fabini and Jon Wade on the right side) because Joe Gibbs knows he can still power-rush left,

Peter King at his best. Jon Wade sure looks good.

!

Redskins related post:

As good as the D has been through 2 games, I'm still concerned by the number of times I've seen a third in long situation addressed by sending an all out blitz, only to see the D get burned for a first down.

That happened routinely last year during every single game. It isn't happening as much this year, but it's still happening.

At what point do you guys think the gamble will no longer be worth it in the eyes of Man Boobs? Never? Once they start producing turnovers without a blitz?

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:10 PM

Exactly.

Posted by: Hmmmm | September 21, 2007 02:27 PM

Whatever.

Nice "Catch-a-twen-tee-too" ref. there Nate. Dang that was a good film!

.

I agree with sween, Derrick Ward is a back of the Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber variety that our stout defense tends to have trouble with. They're gonna have to wrap him up because he'll do some damage in the open field.

I think that a couple of the key's to this game are going to be:

1. Running the ball between the tackles, as well as running right at Strahan. I know that he's slowly working himself into shape, which combined with it being a hot day, we should wear his a$$ out.

2. Scoring EARLY, and OFTEN, to put them into a panic, and forcing them to throw. Their offensive line isn't anything to write home about, so Carter needs to bring it hot off the corner.

Just read the plaxico did not practice and the gints are concernicus re his ankle. Any knowledge on this? I would love it if that chooch couldn't play and catch 16 yard passes in front of Fred 'The Cushion' Smoot and the super frustrating awkward lob from Manning where the Fox guy gives him credit for a great throw when it was really a duck because he's contractually obligated to spitshine new york players...

Note: I hate the giants so much.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm NOT going to take it anymore!"

Blogging all week ... free

Statement Game ... free

Getting a call at 2:30pm on a Friday afternoon from a co-worker with a spare seat on the lower level at FedEx for face value (plus permission from the wife) ... priceless.

Sean Taylor spells color with a 'U' as in; "U gonna correct me? I din't think so."

A Dallas Cowboy fan, a Washinton Redskin fan and Julia Roberts were all sitting together on the subway when the lights went out, and the car went completely dark. In the darkness there was a kissing noise, and then the sound of a really loud slap! When the subway car's lights came back on, Julia and the Redskin fan were sitting as if nothing happened, while the Cowboy fan was holding his slapped face! The Cowboy fan was thinking, "That Redskin fan must have kissed Julia, and she swung at him and missed, slapping me instead!" Meanwhile, Julia was thinking, "That Cowboy fan must have tried to kiss me, accidentally kissed the Redskin fan, and got slapped for it!" And the Redskin fan was thinking, "This is great! The next time the subway car's lights go out, I'll make another kissing noise and slap the crap out of that Cowboy fan again!"

I think color with a "u" in it is how its spelled in french, cant remember 100% french class was more years ago than i want to remember

"Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops."

...

Wife and in-laws are Brits. Color with a "u" is a British thing for sure. I'm sure it's spelled like that elsewhere as well.

.

"You aren't too bright. I like that in a man."

Seems I've heard that in person a few times.

Yo my boy Jeff Hayes poppin in!

There is a Redskins fan, a Giants fan, and a Cowboys fan that got caught drunk in Saudi Arabia, where it is highly illegal to consume alcohol. They are all sentenced to be whipped 200 times. Luckily the whipper was a football fan and seeing as they were too, he gave each of them one wish. The Giants fan was first, he asked if he could have a pillow tied to his back to make it hurt less. But the whip broke through the pillow after like 20 whips and the Giants fan was in extreme pain. The Cowboys fan saw what had happened, so he asked to have 2 pillows tied to his back, but the whip again broke through. Last was the Redskins fan. The whipper said "You are a redskins fan, the greatest team in the world, you are allowed 2 wishes!" So the Redskins fan thought for a minute. "For my first wish, i want to be whipped 1,000 times!" The whipper was confused. "For my second wish, tie the Cowboys fan to my back!!!"

How come "panties" are plural but "bra" is singular?

Is there blog addiction hot line I can call...

I'm starting to worry about myself.

Pretty-much anywhere that used to be a colony bigfish, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa (not Canada now though, sigh).

I think all the phonetic spellers (why isn't that word spelled the way it sounds?) travelled over on the Mayflower so you're stuck with different spelling.

Oh, and that odd thing where you don't use knoves to eat except when you cut your food up at the start!!! I know the origin of that but I've rambled on more than enough already today....

Sorry, for 'knoves' please read 'knives'.

.

A first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Dallas Cowboy fan. She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Cowboy fans. Everyone in the class raises their hands except one little girl. The teacher looks at the little girl with surprise and says, "Jenny, why didn't you raise your hand?" Jenny replied, "Because I'm not a Cowboy fan!" The still shocked teacher asked, "Well, if you aren't a Cowboy fan, then who are you a fan of?" Jenny answered, "I'm a Redskin fan and proud of it!" The teacher couldn't believe her ears. "Jenny, why in the world are you a Redskin fan?!" Jenny replied, "Because my mom is a Redskin fan, my dad is a Redskin fan, so I'm a Redskin fan, too!" The teacher answered in a slightly annoyed tone, "That is no reason for you to be a Redskin fan! You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mom was a moron and your dad was a moron, what would you be then?!" Jenny smiled and said, "Then I'd be a Dallas Cowboy fan!"

Sporks, knoves, whatever...

How come "panties" are plural but "bra" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:44 PM

The same reason that boxers, briefs, pants, and shorts are, while shirt, sweater, and tank top are not--there's more going on down there.

A Cowboys fan tried to blow up my car but he burned his mouth on the tailpipe.

"Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:39 PM

Why the quotes?

We're about 80 shy of 98,500...

This seems more like a classroom discusion than a football blog.
Just a thought, not a cermen

Heh heh, Jasno said "big-money busts" heh heh.

The whipper was confused. "For my second wish, tie the Cowboys fan to my back!!!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 02:44 PM

brokeback football fans?

A body was found naked here the other day, and when the coroner arrived to examine the body. The police officer said to him "you're not going to believe this one". The coroner began his exam, he noticed an Eagles cap over the victim's left breast, he lifted it up, jotted a few words on his legal pad and continued his exam. He then noticed a Redskin's cap over the right breast of the victim he again looked under it and jotted a few more notes on his legal pad. Then the police officer said to him"what do you make of this"...pointing to a Cowboys hat covering the victim's crotch. The coroner lifted it up, shook his for a few seconds then lifted it up again for a second look, about this time the police officer ask "what's the problem" The coroner said I'm use to seeing A#@holes under Cowboy hats!

Thank you, redskirt. But how come "skirt" is singular?

You said Busts, but no time to laugh at that now

I'm a complete and utter mongrel American, but I eat with my knife in my right and my fork in my left (not just to cut at the beginning). I've been told that's weird of me.

I think I learned it from my Alabaman(?)grandfather...

Upon hearing that her elderly grandfather had just passed away, Katie went straight to her grandparent's house to visit her 95-year-old grandmother and comfort her.

When she asked how her grandfather had died, her grandmother replied, "He had a heart attack while we were making love on Sunday morning."

Horrified, Katie told her grandmother that 2 people nearly 100 years old having sex would surely be asking for trouble.

Oh no, my dear," replied granny. "Many years ago, realizing our advanced age, we figured out the best time to do it was when the church bells would start to ring. It was just the right rhythm. Nice and slow and even. Nothing too strenuous, simply in on the Ding and out on the Dong."

She paused to wipe away a tear, and continued, "He'd still be alive if the ice cream truck hadn't come along."

It's in quotes because sadly I didn't say it Mark (in 101001010001100).

An acting hero and fellow countryman of mine, did.

Thank you, redskirt. But how come "skirt" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:52 PM

Ahh! I knew that question might be coming. I'm a champion theorizer, so I'll say it's because the word is of Scandinavian origin.

A boy is wallking near Fed Ex Field when he sees a man being attacked by a viscious dog. He finds a stick and charges the dog without any fear. He gets to the dog, slips the stick through the collar and twists really hard, breaking the dog's neck and saving the man's life. A news reporter for the Washington Post was close by and witnessed the whole event. He rushes over to the hero and tells him he wants to put this in the paper with the head line: "Redskins Fan Saves Man from Imminent Death"

The boy replies "I am not a Redskins fan." Perplexed, the reporter asks "what kind of fan are you?" The boy replies " A Cowboy fan!" The reporter decides on another headline: "Ignorant Redneck Ba$tard Kills Family Pet."

could Lisa and redskirt be the same blogger?

Sure, say somethin bad about Alabama, and Lisa will be up here in a flash.

I'm a champion theorizer
Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 02:55 PM

Oh, if only my name were Theo!

I'm a complete and utter mongrel American, but I eat with my knife in my right and my fork in my left (not just to cut at the beginning). I've been told that's weird of me.

I think I learned it from my Alabaman(?)grandfather...

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 02:53 PM

That's interesting, maybe there's some European heritage way back in your family 'skirt.

Mrs Redcoat's mother used to get told off for doing that by her grandparents when she was little, they would say "stop eating like a German!".

Does anyone have the link to Jason's Redskins chat?

Keep 'em coming bigfish