Wow-first

So no more anonymous "Panties!" posts?

You already have to use your email address to view pages on the WaPa - why not just use that info?

Will also miss the clever posts, such as those by "The Receiver"

you can always say you're anonymous...

-Anonymous

*WaPo

Suh-weet

For the record, I have never been anonymous to post first with "panties!" On this idea, I, for one, welcome our insect overlords.

Great Idea.

They still have a good chance at being 10-6 - Look at the schedule:

Date Opponent Prediction

11/4@.....Jets.........W
11/11vs...Eagles.....W
11/18@...Cowboys...L
11/25@...Bucs.........L
12/2 vs....Bills........W
12/6 vs....Bears.......W
12/16@...Giants....W
12/23@...Vikings.....L
12/30vs...Cowboys..W

Egg-cellent!

Great. It was getting away from being fun, let alone pertinent.

"Matt, if the injury to Rogers is as serious as Jason thinks it might be, Springs might still be wearing burgundy and gold next season. His cap numbers will come into play, but he is still our best corner. Even if they draft a rookie corner in the first round, they would not want to have a starting line up of Smoot and the rookie. It would be overly optimistic to expect that a rookie would immediately learn the scheme and become a quality No. 1 corner."

Posted by: M | October 29, 2007 04:46 PM

Draft? You're thinking the DRAFT? Hellooooo free agency ... with a special warm welcome to Nana Mushmushi (probably misspelled that one).

The cumulative blog count would be around 35,000 if registration had been in place from the beginning.

They still have a good chance at being 10-6 - Look at the schedule:

Date Opponent Prediction
11/4@.....Jets.........W
11/11vs...Eagles.....W
11/18@...Cowboys...L
11/25@...Bucs.........L
12/2 vs....Bills........W
12/6 vs....Bears.......W
12/16@...Giants....W
12/23@...Vikings.....L
12/30vs...Cowboys..W

Posted by: Optomistic | October 29, 2007 04:51 PM

I think the key on this is that you guys have somewhat lost control of your destiny already. If the Eagles continue to make progress - which they will if McNobb is finally fit - you may find yourselves having to beat the Vikings AND the Bears just to get to 9-7, which may not be easy if the Bears D decides to turn up sometime soon.

Speaking of which, who would have thought that the Bears D would be the issue this year? Griese is stuck throwing Hail Mary's because their D can't stop anyone from running now.

Carlos is done for the season.... JG is awaiting final word from Bubba, but it looks like he is done this year... Too bad, I thougt he began to come along this season... this sux....

Optometrist, looking beyond the Jets game with a prediction about the Philly game is tough, esp. until we see what the secondary can look like without Rogers.

Goodbye trolls!

True, but the Eagles have no receivers and we will hopefully have smoooooot back.

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Anyone else here NOT lamenting the loss of Carlos Rogers? I feel bad for the man on a personal level but I really see him as a #3 or #4 CB.

Smoot will be back healthy NEXT year. He will be a game-time decision every week, however. Hamstrings never get better during the season (because they don't get the proper time to heal).

Hmmm registration is good. Although I agree with sween I'll miss some of the hilarious posts.

Nice Starship Troopers reference - definitley one of the greatest bad movies ever made!

I'll be free to wallow in my own crepulence!

- Montgomery Burns

I find it interesting that the vast majority of posts are about the Pats or hating on J-La.

Is it because we're too depressed about the steaming pile of SJK that our team laid on the field yesterday? So there is nothing left to say about them?

I think Ocho Ocho got it about right:

Monday Post-Mortem

1) The Redskins are not a very good team.
2) The injury problem has reached epic proportions.
3) The defense has been demoralized.
4) The offense is lifeless.
5) Jason Campbell has an undisclosed problem with his throwing hand/wrist and has lost his confidence.
6) Portis has a willing heart but an unwilling body.
7) The top offensive coaches are inept.

Conclusions: This season is done. The Redskins might not win another game. They need to start working on which CB, DE and O-Linemen to draft.

4-12, you may not have to change your name this year, after all.

Boo Registration. HOORAY BEER!

Glass Half Full,

I disagree. I{ think he stepped into the #2 well, but I guess we will see... hopefully Smoot heals up and Mackline plays well... Torrence needs to be ready... Maybe westbrook gets the call up, but I doubt he's ready just yet

Good bye Blog. I will miss you.

"Anyone else here NOT lamenting the loss of Carlos Rogers? I feel bad for the man on a personal level but I really see him as a #3 or #4 CB."

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | October 29, 2007 05:01 PM

I used to feel that way, but keeping up with results on the field so far this season, I think Rogers has picked up his game. I think he's fairly key in run support and good in man coverage. Admittedly, he's been burned on some big plays (other teams' highlight reels ... like the open field miss on Buress), but that's b/c he's been playing in the position of the #1 CB.

As much as I like posting as Michael Scott and other TV/movie people... I'm don't mind so much about the log in. Its a shame its come to this, but it has really gotten bad up here.

Thanks Cindy.

The cumulative blog count would be around 35,000 if registration had been in place from the beginning.

Posted by: Insect Overlord #43 | October 29, 2007 04:55 PM

And these would be exactly the 35,000 posts that were worth reading.

Red Stripe Guy- Boo more expensive beer. Hooray registration.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21491206

I agree that his run support has improved this year but I don't think he can cover an orange with a paper towell. I'm not a huge Smoot fan either for that matter.

Hopefully our eminent talent evaluators (not blog, Skins) can identify the right player in the draft to contribute early in his career. Torrence is interesting though. He's supposed to be extremely fast...so he's got that going for him.

Not sure I agree that we won't win many more. I actually think 9-7 or 10-6 is emminently possible. Our defense can pull it out and I think we're playing enough teams like the Jets/Lions where we can hang a win on them.

However, I've been pondering all day and I'm beginning to be swayed by the argument that the league has passed Gibbs and Co. by.

We've played 32 quarters of football so far. Of those 32 I think we've had about 8 of consistent, solid to excellent offense. So 75% of the time our offense is struggling, scrambling and fumbling (literally and figuratively).

We can't sustain this all season. And ultimately I have to point to the coaching. We have too many offensie weapons for this level of mediocrity. Yeah these guys are paid professionals, paid to execute. And we've had major injuries. But at some point heart has to kick in, pride has to be instilled and once again this season I feel like both of those are missing for the full 60 minutes.

I haven't played football but I've played team sports all my life and at some point if things are at a constant level of average or mediocrity and you don't see your leaders (coaches, stars et al.) stepping up and demanding greatness then the mentality of the team shifts. You don't expect much more of yourselves. You practice lakidasical you play the same way. (Now it being the NFL their lakidasical is really intense compared to the average bear.)

I don't hear anyone demanding accountability publicly. Once again remeber in Gibbs 1.0 when the veterans like D. Green, M. Coleman etc would call player meetings and take it to the team? Where are actions like that?

Finally I can be the real "Nate in the PDX"

MUHUHAHAHAHA!

Jason,

I can't tell you how disappointed I was with your post. I have loved the stuff you've been writing since you started but that last post about the Pats running up the score was amazingly wrong. Everyone that plays sports at any level, and we have many friends that have played at all levels, knows one of the very first things you learn about is sportsmanship. Any league at any level and every team has an award for this. It is inherent to sport. They run together always. Sport and sportsmanship. I would argue that what the Pats did on Sunday is worse than anything TO or Pacman Jones does to the reputation of the league.

Up 38-0 with minutes left in the game, continually passing the ball, going for it repeatedly on 4th down...I mean, are you kidding me. Yes, I did want that tyrant to kick the field goal. Absolutely. Kick it and let's move on.

Now we have sportswriters like you lionizing them for this. You love it, huh? You love that? Gimme a break. You damaged your reputation greatly with that post for a lot of readers that have followed you since day one. Your philosophy is to be unsportsmanlike, embarrass grown men, run up the score. Is that your philosophy? You're getting pretty tough, huh Jason? That's how you roll.

You're "if you don't like it stop me" argument is absolutely ridiculous and a fallacy. That is precisely why the game is out of hand, because the other team couldn't stop the team they are facing.

I just can't believe a reporter who had some integrity and stood up to Skins management would support that classless behavior exhibited by the Patriots. They are a classless organization as LDT said last year. I can promise you Bill Walsh never would have done something like that. Joe Gibbs wouldn't. Bill Parcells wouldn't. Jimmy Johnson wouldn't. I remember that 1991 Redskins team absolutely destroying teams, and when it was CLEARLY out of reach, they took their foot off the pedal. That was it. You leave the clear victor with your integrity intact.

But apparently Jason you like the bully approach. That exemplifies what you think sports is about. Pathetic man.

Everyone on this blog knows how much I love Brady and how much tighter I have always thought he was than Peyton Manning. I wrote a long post about that last year. No more. I have lost all my respect for that team, its players, its coaches and its fat cat owner and his classless organization.

And Jason, you lost a supporter in me because I won't be able to read your stories anymore without thinking about your philosophy on sports. You're a horrible dude.

Carlos is out for the Year.

Gibbs said it just now.

I think we are going to miss him.

I'm gonna miss Rogers. He's a lot better than the man who's going to take his place.

My ramblings continued

Yesterday after the first 2-3 drives, everytime our offense stepped on the field I had to watch through my fingers because I could barely watch the pathetic 3 and out or worse the inevitable turnover.

Yeah the Pats have pasted a lot of people but at least when some of them stepped on the field you figured they'd put up a good fight and get something done. I lost that feeling about the Skins early on yesterday.

IMO that is a reflection of lack of mental coaching and leadership.

*sigh* I think I may be done. . .

springs gets hurt next.

Any sense as to whether Carlos was hurt b/c he should have been inactive yesterday and went too hard?

Maybe NOW would be a good time to try me out at CB.

I'm with the Guv.

You'd never see Tom Landry run up the score on people.

After yesterday we no longer have a top 10 defense.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

I was 'sick' yesterday, so was 'lucky' enough to watch the game. The Pats are good. I don't have any problem with 'running up the score'. Over here, the 1st tie-breaker for most sports is scoring % (Points For/Points against x 100).

Watching the game, I felt that I couldn't blame any of the individual players on offense. I really didn't like the play calling. It seemed that our run plays were slow to develop, giving the Pats older LB's time to get to the ball. They aren't a young, quick team, we needed to try and take advantage of that, but didn't. I thought we didn't utilize JC very well at all. Our passes were very short, with the odd deep pass. Where are the intermediate routes? BALANCE doesn't just mean having the same amount of runs as passes. It means running right, as much as you run left. It means passing the ball to different areas of the field. That's why the Pats offense was so good, because our defense didn't know what was coming next, or where it was going. If you go back and watch the game, you'll see that almost every single pass play the Pats ran, was off play-action, which held our defenders, and kept them second guessing. Our offense on the other hand, didn't use play action any where near enough, and when we did it seemed as though it was only when we were going deep.

BALANCE

Rogers took a very bad hit on the knee from a bad angle yesterday. Even if the knee had previously been sound, that hit might have torn the ligaments anyway. Having a possible slight tear already just made the process easier. Knees aren't made to bend in that direction, in any case.

Alex in LA, Rogers got hit from the side when one of his teammates fell into him with his foot planted getting ready to make a tackle. Plain old fashion bad luck. See e.g., Jansen and Thomas injuries (or Prioleau in the kickoff of Game one last season).

Hope #22 is okay in the long run. Any knee injury sucks but ACL & MCL is nearly impossible to recover fully from.

Draft - someone mentioned it above...do we draft another DB or go for a WR in the first round?

Kost- You picked a great day to be 'sick.' Did you call your boss at halftime and say you were feeling less 'sick' and would be in to work after all?

AMEN, Governor!!! I absolutely feel you! What you wrote was horrible, Jason. Belichick is a cheat....pure and simple. Because he got caught cheating (and was slapped slightly on the hand) he is determined to make every team in his path pay. Gibbs has never been anything but respectful to him but he shows no respect for anyone. He could have run the ball instead of calling pass plays. And Brady is an idiot too.....yelling at his players when they made a presumed mistake even though we were scoreless - not to mention taking on the refs (who made an idiotic call against Randle El).

Jason, maybe you should go back to reporting on hockey.....although the Caps are sucking too. Bet if the team that suffered that abuse yesterday was your beloved Ravens you would be singing a different tune.

Dave Campo never ran up the score on anybody either. Class act.

better post this now before the registration..F Jasno for the lame BS he wrote regarding Bellicheat running up the score being OK..F you little shmecel deckker

4-12 - I waited until halftime before I called and told him I wouldn't be in, that way I sounded genuinely sick.

I know that being over here means I'm used to a different culture when it comes to sports. But don't they fiddle with the rules in most sports to encourage more scoring, because everyone wants to see TD's? I reckon if we had've played that with that mentality against the Giants, we wouldn't have lost that game.

The Pats beat us in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Whether they did it with better technique or better athletes or better focus, I don't know. I do know that the Pats were in our backfield a bunch, that we barely touched Brady and gave up plenty of yards on the ground. We're not in the same league as the Pats, and not many teams are.

I'm curious if anyone else besides Ocho Ocho and I think Soups' wrist is worse than we're being told.

I know this sounds lame but at some point they shot him running onto the field for warm-ups or something before the game started and he was holding it holding it still/stiff and was touching it with his other hand just like you do when you are in pain. My immediate thought was "Uh-oh the wrist is bad and hasn't gotten any better."

I also thought the wrist may account for calling so many slants and short passes.

I think the Defense performed reasonably well considering they spent about two games worth of time on the field (26 points per game, not bad huh?).

Four turnovers (not the apple kind). I guess that fumble recovery for the TD did keep them off of the field though.

Okay, I've had enough. This hairshirt is ithcy..

Jets anyone?

Registration sucks

Thanks,
NateJmcRaZyALKostSmackSweenSkinMeg4-12RedcoatEVB

Mmmm... apple turnovers...

Joe Gibbs interview on channel 4 just ended. You all know what he said, so I won't bother with details.

I'm with ya Stumped.

I'd love to get a good solid win in Jersey.

Speaking of Jersey - I saw Bruce Springsteen last week in Oakland. Man he is the best live! He and the E Street Band just rock the house for 2 solid hours. The crowd was a wee bit lame but that is to be expected with the West Coast bunch.
I am one step closer to being able to die happy as I got to finally hear Thunderoad live.

Here is the motto for the week - "It's a town full of losers. I'm pullin outta here to win." (hmm town = East Rutherford obviously)

People cannot be trusted.
Can't even use your own blog name, going out and using anothers psuedonym?

Way to go people.
Guess my momma was right.
She used to quote the Bible sometimes:

All have sinned and the wages of sin is death.
She used to say: the only person you can trust at all times came to die for people like us.

Kost- Most of the rules changes in the NFL over the years do favor increased scoring, especially the way a defensive back can't even breath on a receiver or it's interference.

Now, if you could get rid of the "insurmountable 1-nil lead" in soccer, that would be a great start.

Will this affect the RSS feed? I might have withdrawals if I didn't get this feed on my Crackberry.

sfskin - I certainly hope that you're wrong about Soup's wrist. I doubt that anyone would risk playing him if he was injured, it would hurt him in the long term, not just his psyche, but it could also effect his mechanics, doing things differently to be able to throw the ball without pain. But it would explain why some of his deeper passes get away from him, and why he has trouble holding onto the ball, like on that scramble when he almost knocked the ball out of his own hands!

I have been watching TV today and listening to sports radio. I am really surprised no one on the Skins did anything about the score being runned up on them. New England is a great team and showed it but had no class going for it on 4th down in the quarter. In basketball there would of been a hard foul. In Baseball they would throw at you. It shows the skins have no character. There are 3 things they could of did. They could of hit Tom Brady in the chest as hard as they could after the play. Until they took Brady out of the game. You could of threw a pass at there head coach and fell into him as hard as they could. After the game, the team could of flipped out. I think 1 or 2 would of been correct. There is going to be a team that does it. The Redskins showed no heart. They got beat but could of at least shown some pride. There was not 1 player during the game that did anything. They looked like beaten punks, nice guys. They should of did something.

Partial list of 'Skins coaches who never ran up the score on anyone:

Richie Petitbon
Norv Turner
Terry Robiskie
Marty Schottenheimer
Steve Spurrier

I hate to say it, but Troy Aikman of all people had possibly the best implicit condemnation of Gibbs & Co. yesterday. Aikman pointed out that in today's National Football League, teams no longer need to run to set up the pass. Seems like a simple point, but it goes to the heart of what's wrong with the offense. The strategy of pounding Portis (who looks timid and slow) into the line isn't necessary and it isn't working. I agree that the Skins are missing the 10-15 yard ins and outs that the Patsies used to shred the Cover-2 yesterday. Where is McCardell? He eats those up! Sad to say it, but Gibbs' glory days are long past.

Tommy- You don't have a brother named Skippy by any chance, do you?

This is from Fort Worth Star Telegram website. Maybe someone can get it posted in Redskins locker room. I just got my ticket to the Cowboys-Redskins game at Texas Stadium and I need the Skins to go in there motivated:

Monday Musings: Redskins present no threat
By JENNIFER FLOYD ENGEL
jenfloyd@star-telegram.com

So much for the Redskins being a viable threat.

They blow chunks.

No, really, they are not good.

After watching Skins coach Joe Gibbs and his crew fail to show in a 52-7 loss to New England on Sunday, a certain 48-27 Cowboys loss does not look so bad.

In fact, it looks downright good. Certainly for their NFC East chances.

The Cowboys did not beat the Patriots; they were not really that close. What they did do was score with Tom Brady for a bit, a feat not accomplished by anybody else. Certainly not Washington.

Cowboys observers walk away from this bye weekend with an understanding that Dallas is closer to New England/Indy than to Washington/NYG.

Listen up people and listen closely;

We could have LT in our backfield right now and he wouldn't do any better. It's the O-line. Has nothing to do with who's running behind it right now.

4-12,As we see you gave already, no heart, not a man and a fan, get off the blog. The negativity. I am coach and thats what should of been done. Its called man up. I should not expect you to understand because you already gave up,,,Can you say looser!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy and sad about registration. Happy that it'll get rid of the idiots. But also unhappy. Part of the thing that made the blog work was all the random trashtalking. I actually enjoyed having, say, King Card, show up. And I miss Boofer.

Oh well. Times change.

Sfskin, I belive Jason hurt his wrist (or hand) several weeks ago (the Green Bay game). He came off the field looking at his wrist and it was mentioned during the game. Guess the problem is still bothering him - unless he just has a habit of looking at his wrist.

I like looking at my wrists.

For those that think the Pats should have let up on the skins yesterday, I have to disagree. I agree with Bmitch and Wilbon. If you don't want to be scored on, stop them. Hit the QB or someone in the kisser. But don't sulk and cry! Don't ask the other team to go easy! This is professional football, not Pee Wee!

i play soccer, and my team isn't that great. Whe have had MANY teams running the score up on us, and I gotta tell you, the ones that do get taken down. And it certainley sends the right message.

Now, do I admire Belichek? no. It was classless to do the fake spike touchdown in the 3rd quarter, going for it on 4th down, etc. THAT was rubbing it in. They still may have scored, but have some class about it.

Finally, think about what we have: a team of overpaid players and coaches who have no motivation for winning. If you want to win, go to New England or Indy. If you want to get paid go to DC. That's what players around the league think.

What exactly do you mean that they have no class? Are you saying their not high class; they're low class? Class has nothing to do with it. Nothing whatsoever.

The media spews this stuff and its absolutely meaningless.

Was it right (a good or noble thing) to run up the score. No.

It was needless and stupid.

There is a real issue of sportsmanship (what is good conduct on the playing field versus that is poor conduct) needs to be discussed -- and it is very subjective, so it seems.

Discuss.

Stumped,

I think it was low class to run the score up in the manner that they did. If they pounded the ball down the field, running and short passes, then it's the defenses JOB to stop them. And I think that is fine. But trick plays and deep passes are just shoving it down the losing teams' throat.

Lee , I agree with you. But when a teams classless you have let them no beat us all you want but you will disrespect us and rub it in. I coach baseball and if you are by 15 runs and are stealing bases in the 7th I will throw at you. You beat my team and my hats off to you but there is a way to win,

Rogers will have season ending knee surgery says the NFLN! dam

Stumped, If you play or have coached at a high level you know there is class in the world of that sport. Its the do and don,ts in that sport. Running a score up is fine if you do it by running the ball. You punt on 4th. New England passed and went for it. Thats a no-no....

I'm with the Governor. Jason got it wrong. No need to call Jason names or trash him as a person, but he got this one dead wrong. I used to admire the Pats; now I'd rather be a .500 team with class than be undefeated and have to cheer for such poor sportsmen. Belichick will never be able to catch Gibbs 1, Noll, Landry, Shula, Walsh, etc., because we don't know how dominant those teams could have been if they had decided to behave like petulant thugs and run up the score and their statistics.

As for the Skins, I'm afraid it's clear to me that every day the team is led by Joe Gibbs is one more day until it starts to move in the right direction. I have no confidence -- none -- that Gibbs can lead this team to a championship.

True there have been injuries, but injuries are most devastating when you have no depth, and that's a personnel manangement problem. Good teams have effective systems and good personnel; if a starter goes down, a capable player can be inserted and can succeed because the system is sound. The Redskins have failed to establish a sound offensive system in the three and a half years that Gibbs has been here, and they don't have the depth to plug solid personnel into the holes left by injured starters.

That said, they're still good enough to contend for the playoffs this year. But even if they make it, it's not the dawn of a new era; rather, it's more likely just another 2005 mirage to be followed by more turmoil and failure.

I vote to blow it up.

Tommy,

That's what I mean. Someone on the Redskins had to man up and take a shot at someone. What was a 15 yard penalty going to do at that point. (I don't mean hurt, just crush)

Lee, I agree with you. The Redskins team showed no heart and no pride and it really showed me they have no leader on there team. Because if I were on there team I would of did something.

So, bad sportsmanship - "running up the score with trick plays" begets bad sportsmanship "throwing at them?"

In the long run this game (their bad sportsmanship, not to mention the cheating thing) will do a lot to help the Redskins and ultimately it will be the Patriots undoing.

Bonfire of the vanities...

Dare I say it?
...it's like a bad war.

Why is jasno making us do this crap. He sucks. Hes a crybaby. Anyways thought id say what a doosch he is.

Stumped,
I hope so. i hope one day they get a dose of their own medicine. I hope it woke the Redskins up to do something other than collect a paycheck. I hope someone hangs a hurt on the Pats.

I think the coaching staff could of lost there team by doing nothing.The Redskins played awful and there offense is the worst I have ever seen. The team showed no character yesterday.

I think people are overlooking the reason WHY, the Pats were running up the score. If they had've scored 84 or more points, they would've got 35 bonus points. That helps out when purchasing Madden Cards!

i think the ofense looked ok yesterday. We had almost 200 yards, thats not bad for us.Superbowl here we come.

They would of won a ring on Madden!

Sorry to hear that about Rogers. I was pulling that he would come around this year.

Say what you want about Bellicheat but when asked how he felt about the game yesterday he replied "We still have a lot of work to do. We had 4 false start penalties on offense and special teams needs to do better". You wouldn't catch him saying something idiotic like "our guys fought their guts out" our "I'm super proud of the way we played" especially after a loss.

Wonder if we can bring riggins out of retirement. Monk to , maybe to get some more stats to make the HOF.

How long till we have an offense that goes forward not backwards. I say bring Ramsey back

The Redskins offense needs a make over. They need to start Betts and go with 3 wide receiver sets. Please stop throwing to the sidelines on 3rd down.Portis has looked rusty.

Heath Shuler looked pretty good in that flag football game saturday.....

Listen up people and listen closely;

We could have LT in our backfield right now and he wouldn't do any better. It's the O-line. Has nothing to do with who's running behind it right now.

Posted by: Reality | October 29, 2007 06:22 PM

Bring on the jets baby. here comes a 175 yard offense and an overworked D.Look out we are good.

Thanks for keepin' it light Redskin Ray.

Listen up people and listen closely;

We could have LT in our backfield right now and he wouldn't do any better. It's the O-line. Has nothing to do with who's running behind it right now.

Posted by: Reality | October 29, 2007 06:22 PM

Posted by: Again | October 29, 2007 06:51 PM

AGREED

The Redskins offense needs a make over. They need to start Betts and go with 3 wide receiver sets. Please stop throwing to the sidelines on 3rd down.Portis has looked rusty.

Posted by: Tommy | October 29, 2007 06:49 PM

Agreed

i think it's painfully clear that something needs to be shaken up with this offense for this team to be a contender in the NFC, let alone the entire league. i've been the biggest portis supporter, and i still don't think that he is the problem, but i think something has to be done to send a message to this offense that failure will not be tolerated. it's not enough to "fight your guts out" on the field anymore. give betts the start. have mccardell out there in more base packages. dare i say it, but give b.lloyd more shots down the field. have gibbs take back playcalling duties. let people know that if you're not performing, you'll pay the price (i know this may contrast the b.lloyd statement earlier, but truth be told, he hasn't really gotten shots this year). anything to give this offense a jolt.

Tell jasno to wise up and lets get this password thing going already,frigin goof!

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Betts has a burst and can wear a team down. Portis has no burst and cannot get outside. Lt has speed and power. He would wear a team down. When Betts comes in he gets a good run and they take him out. He is a wear a team down back.The line is banged up but the back has to have some burst. If they putt Betts in by the 2nd half he will get going. He needs touches to get going.

why dont we throw lloyd a screen just get him a catch! huh WHY?

One more thing has been forgotten about the Pats running up the score.

Did anyone notice how the Pats put Randy Moss back at DB when the Redskins were in a must pass situation late in the 4th so he could try for an INT?

That's just extra cruddy.

F the Pats!, Was Moss in?

Tommy, come on now. Walter Payton, Barry Sanders and Jim Brown couldn't get decent yards behind our current O-line.

Moss playing DB was just the Pats way of trying to stop the Skins from scoring. He is tall and can get the high ball. More so than our receivers.....

YES, Moss was in. You didn't see that?

this team of coaches is comprised of look -at-mes,we need, watch-me-get-thers.

That's the problem with BB, he should have just said his team played well, but now they have to get ready for a big test next week. A smile would have helped too. Granted, he has a sour personality to begin with but to give off a vibe that he's stressed about four false start penalties and special teams is disingenous (sp?) and phony. Bill, your taem played great, they are great, they are going to beat the Colts by 30. Lighten up or go get some therapy because you have some major issues my little friend. Nit pick your players in private because what the public saw was the best team in the league. It really doesn't care about false start penalties. That's for a guy with no life that spends 20 hours a day looking at tape and trying to figure out how to beat the cover 2. Oh wait that's you. Lighten up.

Moss playing DB was just the Pats way of trying to stop the Skins from scoring. He is tall and can get the high ball. More so than our receivers.....

Posted by: Lee | October 29, 2007 06:59 PM

And you're okay with that especially since they were up by 45 points at the time? As if running up the score wasn't enough.

WTF is wrong with these idiots, looks like we learned football at a junior college.

my head hurts!

Reality , Thats crazy to say that. The Line is not great at all. But a run here a run there, a screen. They could get going. Peyton would get it done. Portis has lost his burst and looks sacred when he gets the ball. He has not his the hole hard. He is not the same back. I think he is playing injured. Would another back be much better?
I dont know but when Betts gets touches he gains some yards. Last year late in the game he got better. The Oline is not great but pros. Please be real.Betts should get a shot so we can at least see?

Bob, cheating and classiness aside, what you just described is the perfect coach and much better than what we have right now in Gibbs 2.4.7

We should all turn on this team and just root for the other team till they cahnge something.

jm220 blog sissy and I think im smart but i google everything megskin emailed jason to complain about all the negative posts who dont identify themselfs!WAWAWA But jason ignores they and other KOOL-AIDE drinking MORONS ATTACK anybody who is negative and they all posts under different blog names!! BE CAREFUL JASON i would hate for you to put the paper in a position to be SUED for DISCRIMINATION and freedom of speech? These KOOL-AIDE drinking MORONS dish it out but cant take it!!

F The Pats - What are you saying? They should've just let us score? If we're calling the Hail Mary, don't you think it's their job to do what they can to stop it? It wasn't to try and get Moss an INT, it was because he is taller than most CB's, and has a knack for jump ball situations.

F the Pats! , I was ticked off and did not listen to the announcers and was on the phone with my friend, my bag

its actually 2.3.10

Give Betts a shot. The same day we'll be here complaining about not having Portis in there. Damned if you do, damned if you don't with us Skins fans. I do know one thing and that is our O-line is decimated by injuries and that is the main problem.

I need some kool aid

All you all a bunch of douches. Stop whining about Belicheck running up the score. The man is making a case for himself to be the greatest coach/the greatest football team in the history of the NFL. He wants to break records, not maintain some BS sense of 'sportsmanship' or class. God, the whiners on this blog are unbelievable. Accept that we got our butts whipped. It's a fact. Crying about cheating or running up the score or sportsmanship shows a lack of class. Grow up and demand that our crap team get better instead of blaming teams and coaches that are light years better than our own.

OK everyone Jasno says everyone get their last words in .Blog is being shut down at 7:15 pm thats 3 minutes.

hey SOUPY get off this site

Kost - It was one of the last if not the last play of the game for us and they were up by 45. It may not bother you but IMO that added insult to injury on top of running up the points.

Realist , The o line is banged up but if you cannot see Portis in the last few games he cannot turn the corner then I dont know what your watching. Betts also had over 1000 yards last year. Why not just try it to see if it works. If He gets it done then Portis was hurt. If not then the Oline did not get it done. Either way lets find out????

Registration? Is Dick Cheney running this blog now?

no its BUSH running this site!

I agree with you Tommy. Let's give him a try but I'm not optimistic of any better results. I'm just sayin that us Skins fans are fickle and if/when it doesn't work out we will all be right back here cursing Betts and wondering why Portis wasn't playing.

How long till Snyder hires BB after they someday fall from grace?

Realist, I understand the fan thing. But Wins count for the team. The coach has to at least first allow them the same amount of carries and then go with the hot hand that day. There boys do it. Then they will both play harder to get more carries

Kool-Aide Drinkers are cryin to daddy Jason about all the bad realistic fans and they will continue to throw tandrums if he doesnt do somthing!

Hey jasno Whats Black and Deep and dark all over. You! Figure it out

F the Pats! - Don't get me wrong, I hate the Pats, after the Cowboys they're my most hated team. I said before the game, that they should put a big hit on the Brady early, even if it does incur a flag. But I don't get this, yeah you're in front, give us some pity mentality.

If the game was over, and the Pats should've have just been running the ball to run out the clock, then shouldn't we have been doing the same, for the same reason? Hell, maybe the Pats should've been taking a knee about 10 minutes into the second half.

Maybe it's a bit simplistic, but here's how I see things. When you have the ball, you try and score, when the other team has the ball, you try and stop them from scoring. Simple as that.

Kool-Aide Drinkers are cryin to daddy Jason about all the bad realistic fans and they will continue to throw tandrums if he doesnt do somthing!

Yeah they dont like hearing the truth

It's is nice to know that I am on you guys minds so much that you have to post as me.

NFL Network will re-air Redskin vs PATRIOTS tues at 10:30 for all kool-aide drinkers who need to see reality!

Kost, you go join the darkside with Darth Sweatshirt but here in American football there is such a thing as class and respect. Neither of which Bellicheat knows anything about.

Gibbs is such an empty suit - spouting endless cliches in response to every query.

It's downright embarassing.

For heaven's sake, get this clown outa town and back to his beloved left-turn heaven.

jm220
you have done the same and you fool nobody so run to daddy jason like you have & cry cry baby cry cry
You can keep all realist away but you can NEVER keep the REDSKINETTES from SUCKING! AHH HAHAHAHA

POSTED 6:52 p.m. EDT, October 29, 2007

ROMO GETS PAID

Ed Werder of ESPN reports that the Cowboys and quarterback Tony Romo has agreed in principle on a six-year, $67.5 million contract, including $31 million in guaranteed money.

Several weeks ago, we reported that Romo was looking for guaranteed money in that range. And he publicly denied our report.

Apparently, Romo has changed his mind since then.

We think that the Cowboys should have waited until the end of the season to get it done. His value wasn't going to go much higher, and the number could have gone down if Romo had stunk it up or gotten hurt.

Then again, doing the deal now allows the Cowboys to push some of the cap charge into the current year, making it easier to fit the rest of the deal into the future years.

Werder said that the deal is believed to be the highest in Cowboys history. Memo to Ed: "Ya think?" With only a handful of NFL contracts ever cracking $30 million in guaranteed cash, it's a no-brainer.

Romo also "is believed to be" the first undrafted player to reel in more than $30 million in guaranteed money.

Sween, with their cap situation, I expect that there will be a similar offseason to the one they had this year: a couple of second-tier signings, but no big fireworks. But they will have more draft picks than they had last year and if they spend them wisely the team should improve.

Kost, you go join the darkside with Darth Sweatshirt but here in American football there is such a thing as class and respect. Neither of which Bellicheat knows anything about.

Posted by: | October 29, 2007 07:34 PM

See, I thought the Pats were pretty classy, on more than a few occasions, I remember seeing Patriot players helping Redskins up, and Patriot players patting Redskins on the butt when they made a good tackle.

I don't see how 'easing up' on a team is a showing of respect. in fact I think it's the opposite.

If a swimmer is 5-6 lengths in front, is it disrespectful to push hard for the World Record? If Tiger Woods is 8 shots in front, on the 18th, should he 2-putt just to show his opponents some respect?

I was always taught that when you play sports you play from start to finish, you don't give up, you don't let up. That's how you show your opponent respect, by giving them the best 60 minutes that you can. If the Pats had've taken Brady out of the game, not long after halftime, I would've taken that as a sign of disrespect.

Maybe we should get an Aussie Head Coach?

springs gets hurt next.

kost52,
Amen to that! I think it's a bit of an insult when someone who's supposed to be your equal (as professional athletes are) goes easy on you. Yeah, in a pickup game you can slack off a bit since you're not getting paid. But when you're paid to compete, GO HARD THE ENTIRE TIME. I respect the Pats for doing that, and I hope the lesson isn't lost on the Redskins players and coaches.

i'm a die hard reskins fan. hated what i saw tyesterday but as herm edwards said 'you play to win the game!'.i'm sorry, you have to have a killer instinct in the NFL. in gibbs second go round, that instinct hasn't been there. the coaches look scared on the sidelines, they barely go down field w/ deep pass plays. its time for joe to go, i'm sorry. the play calling, bad clock management, no hurryup offense, no second half adjustments. if i were a coach prosecuter he'd be convicted. i love gibbs but this shti has been going on since he's been back. the def has been bad one out of the 3 years, the offense has been bad all 3 years. its a study in contrast: belichek came to ne kickin a$$ and taking names, gibbs came back to dc signing a$$ holes and giving them 8 digit numbers. g dubb has the temprament i like to see. a tough coach who wants to win and shows it. gibbs looks like he's too scared to talk to his players. i won't lose the faith but i want to see a winner not a try not to loser.

kost,
The sentiment come from the old adage: "It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game."

The thinking is, win or lose, that if you play your guts out you can hold your head up high at the end of the day.

Running up the score in an obvious blow-out may needlessly diminish the other teams dignity and self-respect. Usually, coaches in amateur sports, use these blow-outs as an opportunity to give all the players a chance to get in the game.

On the other hand, playing down to your opponent's level is condescending.

What I can't fathom is why you would continue to play your critical first stringers late into the game (e.g. Brady, Randy and others) and risk their injury.

Playing Moss on both sides of the ball seems kind of suspect too. It's one thing if you're behind in a winnable game. It just seems stupid if you've got an insurmountable lead.

It's hard to imaging a bunch of American's talking about this kind of sportsmanship (I suppose there is some basic democratic value at work -- all equal under God, etc, etc, but I really think we've lost this as a Nation, so it seems like a hollow excuse to me now.)

On the upside, barring a miracle the AFC (Pats or Colts) will win the Super Bowl. The best team in the NFC East is not on their level (whomever you consider that to be).

For the Redskins, it's all about laying a foundation. Stay competitive this year (maybe some better teams will have key injuries and the Skins can leapfrog over them) and keep getting better. Gibbs and company have made A LOT of mistakes, but they've done a lot of things right, too. The stability is a plus.

I guess the multiple calls for you to find a job somewhere else finally got to you.

Well I said I would believe registration when I see it - looks like it is about to happen. RI will be going from an anyone welcome (even trolls) discussion of mostly football to an exclusive, elitist blog.

That makes me sad - I will miss posts from The Receiver, Joe Gibbs, et. al.

That game yesterday made me depressed. I have had to stay away from RI until I could handle the doom and gloom that I knew would be here.

See y'all soon in registration land. Big Brother rejoice!

Say what you want about Bellicheat but when asked how he felt about the game yesterday he replied "We still have a lot of work to do. We had 4 false start penalties on offense and special teams needs to do better". You wouldn't catch him saying something idiotic like "our guys fought their guts out" our "I'm super proud of the way we played" especially after a loss.

Posted by: Get Gibbs Out | October 29, 2007 06:46 PM

Quoting this guy because he just highlighted the differences between Belichek (a good coach) and Gibby 2.0 (horrible coach).

Gibbs 1.0 would chew his team out if they don't show up. Come to think of it, can't think of any Gibby 1.0 team that just fail to show up.

Stumped, good points. I'm also surprised that they play their stars for as long as they have.

I know that the culture of the game is for teams to run the ball once you have a big lead, I mean, look at our final drive in Superbowl XXII, but I guess like most things, the game is evolving.

Is the whole concept of 'running up the score' used anywhere outside the US? I can't think of any? In Soccer, after points (3 for win, 1 for draw) the tie breaker is goal difference, encouraging teams to win by as much as possible. Same in Aussie Rules. In Rugby you get a bonus point, if you score a certain amount of tries.

8:29pm was me.

I suppose that in the early part of the game they didn't want to blitz without Smoot and Rogers in the backfield. But in the second half, with all lost, I'm disappointed that they didn't bring the heat and at least mess up Brady's hair. I've got to believe that D morale would be higher this week if Williams had turned them all loose a few times.

How does it normally work in regards to Head Coach/Offensive Co-ordinator. Does the HC say, "Okay, I want you to test them deep here" and the OC decides on the specifics? Or does the OC make all the decisions?

I know it's a bit up in the air about who does what in regards to our offensive calls, but what's the general approach?

***FANTASY POST***

I would sit Brandon Stokley tonight if I could. I hate to run the score up on Zebra. Those 3 embarrassing points. Good game Zeeb.

kost, sorry about that cheesy narrow EPL victory, and the lame boozy boomerang remark. Funny how those things come back to haunt you.

I agree TE. I would've thought that since we fell so far behind, we should've tried to change things up, apply a tonne of pressure and try to force a turnover or two.

SMACK, No probs mate, I was pretty excited when I saw that Drogba (My replacement for RVP) scored twice, only to find out you had Tevez who aslo scored twice, basically cancelling it out! My choice of Captain really hurt me, oh well, there's always the return leg!

Williams should have made getting to Brady a part of game plan 1A. You know they're going to get their points, so at 14-0, you go risk another 6 points and pound him to the turf.

I saw no blitzes at all. If we play by Bellichicks code, we owe it to Brady to pound him a few time.

(cheap-shots aside!)

Hoorah, Governor!!

**FANTASY EPL***

Oh man, I just traded in Obafemi for Didier, but I hope they time stamp it so you can tell I did it while wasting time today at work, and not after you just mentioned that. Nice job signing him before he scored the goals.

I keep waiting for them to change the scoring though because I watched the entire Chelsea game and didn't hear or see Alex once.

I have never posted here but after watching the Skins melt down on Sunday I have some general thoughts about Gibbs's return.
1. When you look at this team its is hard to know who is in charge. Is it a player, a coach or the owner?
2. Gibbs essentialy gave up control of the team when he brought in Saunders and let him call the plays
3.Gibbs thought he could employ a CEO model of leadership and let other coaches set the tone for thier own indivdual area of expertise, ie defense, offense
4. I get the feeling the players really do not know who Gibbs is, he seems so disconnected from the players. Certainly different from his early coaching years where people played hard for him because they loved him. I never hear any of the players praise Gibbs.
5. When you look at the other teams in the NFL you can really see how their head coach sets the tone, for better or for worse, who is setting the tone for the Redskins.
6. I beleive that this will be Gibbs last year. Sad that such a great coaching legend and "Father figure" of the Redskins will go out like this. I hope I am wrong. I really like Gibbs and think that he is a class act.

hey kost, here's my version of a Skins 1st down analysis, formatting sucks though

__Week__Result__Total_Play_Tot_Avg_%_Run___%_Pass__Run_TotaRun_Avg_Pass_TotPass_Avg
___1____W_____________28____5.96_____75%_____25%______21____4.43_______7___10.57
___2____W_____________29____7.38_____72%_____28%______21____5.24_______8___13.00
___3____L_____________26____4.58_____58%_____42%______15____3.53______11____6.00
___4____Bye
___5____W_____________30____6.33_____50%_____50%______15____4.00______15____8.67
___6____L_____________31____5.81_____58%_____42%______18____2.22______13___10.77
___7____W_____________18____2.72_____78%_____22%______14____1.57_______4____6.75
___8____L_____________23____6.13_____22%_____78%_______5____3.60______18____6.83

Jason killed this blog with his "Help Me Watch the Sox, Please" post and then didn't even have the decency to post a fresh blog for the game Sunday.(Because typing a sentence and pressing enter is soooooo difficult.)

Then he pour gas on it and lit it on fire with his last idiotic post.

So you might as well stomp it out with Registration. ROFL!!!

There's going to be five people in here!

You can change it from Redskin Insider to Canfora's Sewing Circle!!

I'm with the Guv...well said.

noone from tampa - Nice work! How does it compare to all the other 31 teams?

Haha Just kidding!

Sewing circle. That's actually pretty funny.

See, I thought the Pats were pretty classy, on more than a few occasions, I remember seeing Patriot players helping Redskins up, and Patriot players patting Redskins on the butt when they made a good tackle.

I don't see how 'easing up' on a team is a showing of respect. in fact I think it's the opposite.

If a swimmer is 5-6 lengths in front, is it disrespectful to push hard for the World Record? If Tiger Woods is 8 shots in front, on the 18th, should he 2-putt just to show his opponents some respect?

I was always taught that when you play sports you play from start to finish, you don't give up, you don't let up. That's how you show your opponent respect, by giving them the best 60 minutes that you can. If the Pats had've taken Brady out of the game, not long after halftime, I would've taken that as a sign of disrespect.

Posted by: kost52 | October 29, 2007 07:50 PM

Those two examples (swimmer and Tiger) don't apply to football because they're not team sports and they're not competing directly against their opponent (that is to say one athletes performance does not affect the performance of their opponent). If you were playing basketball against the Cleveland Cavaliers and they were up by 40pts late in the 4th quarter, would you want Lebron James to isolate you 1-on-1 so he could drive on you and dunk in your face? would you be saying that Lebron is showing you respect in that situation? No, you'd expect him to move the ball around, and if through that movement they end up with an easy basket, so be it. Just because he's not doing the thing he knows he can beat you with doesn't mean he's easing up. there is a level of sportsmanship that all (or almost all) teams and athletes adhere to. Once you have effectively "won" a game doing something (and 45-0 in the 4th quarter would fall in this category), then there is no need to keep pouring it on and rubbing it in. You don't ease up, you just play in a different manner. It's one thing to score because you're running the ball trying to kill the game but the defense can't stop you. It's completely different to throw bombs to your star receiver in a 45-0 game and attempt 4th downs instead of kicking field goals in order to put another td on the board. That's classless and plain disrespect.

Jason,

Mama always said, stupid is as stupid does.

Jason,

You sir, are a douche.

Also, what does this mean?

"I was chatting in the parking lot with one of the veteran Redskins, who knew what is store."

Hey, I know what is store, too. That's where you go to buy stuff, eh, right?

Now, Jason does you know what is class?

But I'm sure you're totally right about Betts! Go Betts!

Douche. Bag.

PS - You can force us to register, Jason, but that's not going to stop me from telling you what a Douche you are.

PPS - Everyone else; it should be an amusing run on all the recognizable names when registration starts, eh? Kind of like the domain name runs of old. Good times.

for everyone on here that slurps up on champ bailey, hope you just caught him getting burnt for a 79 yard td to james jones. not the first and wont be the last he gives up.

f registration and any kind of censorship. may get rid of some of the annoying posts but will take out plenty of creativity and humor i used to enjoy here.

No problem with Bellichek running up the score. If I'm the coach, I want everyone on the field playing hard. All 60 minutes. And I get why he wants to do this. Its intimidating to other teams. But I'm sure teams that he sees twice a year might do more than take offense

SMACK, I watched it as well, and only remember seeing him once. And that was for a foul. Should've been a Red Card. haha

Is this whole registration thing being blown out of proportion? I don't see what's going to be so different?

1st half 1st down stats

__Week__Result______1H%_Run_1H%_Pass_Run1H__R1H_Avg__Pass_1H____P1H_Avg
___1____W____________70%______30%_______7____3.57________3______5.33
___2____W____________63%______38%______10____5.10________6_____12.67
___3____L____________69%______31%______11____4.55________5_____14.00
___4____Bye
___5____W____________56%______44%______10____2.70________8______8.75
___6____L____________61%______39%______11____3.09________7_____12.43
___7____W____________67%______33%_______6____2.33________3______0.33
___8____L____________25%______75%_______3____4.00________9______3.67

huh?

Whoever heard Aikman say that you no longer need to run to set up the pass ... thanks for catching that because that is THE POINT. In todays NFL, running is optional for the top teams.

Spread passing offenses is the best way to win. The NFL rule book practically screams that. The refs help. Yesterday, Randy Moss pushed off on his TD catch and there was no call (and that had no effect on the outcome of the game, just making a point about what works). RBs are most effective if they can catch the ball as well as run.

To be effective with it, you do need a good QB. But how many great passes did Brady throw yesterday? Not many. Mostly a lot of short crisp passes.

That spread passing offense, exactly what Brady runs, is what the Skins should be studying and implementing. Because it is what wins.

2nd half 1st down stats

__Week__Result___2H_%_Run_2H_%_Pass_Run_2H__R2H_Avg_Pass_2H_P2H_Avg
___1____W__________71%______29%______10____5.00_______4_____14.50
___2____W__________85%______15%______11____5.36_______2_____14.00
___3____L__________40%______60%_______4____0.75_______6_____-0.67
___4____Bye
___5____W__________42%______58%_______5____6.60_______7______8.57
___6____L__________54%______46%_______7____0.86_______6______8.83
___7____W__________89%______11%_______8____1.00_______1_____26.00
___8____L__________18%______82%_______2____3.00_______9_____10.00

My God, can someone please send the Maple Leafs a tourniquet? I blinked a few minutes ago and the Caps went up 7 - 1. Yikes!

AL, you're totally right. AND, the reason the Patriots are able to get away with that spread passing offense? Their receivers, every single one of them, are not only tough and fearless enough to get to that second level and block linemen and linebackers flowing to the ball, but they also perfectly time their blocks with the pass. That offense is very, very, very simple. It's all execution, and the Pats execute so well it's scary.

Now that is not to say that there is only one way to win in the NFL. It's just to say that the Patriots offense works because of exceptional players, very well-designed scheme, and flat-out execution. It is something to behold, and as revolutionary (in my mind) as Walsh's offense was in the 80s. Very impressive.

As for the 'Skins offense? The injuries along the offensive line clearly affects what's going on.

el diablo - They're good points, especially the team/individual sports comparisons. As for the Cavs scenario, I guess I just see it differently, I see the passing the ball around to be his team playing with mine. I see the 1-on-1 as a chance to GET some respect, play him as hard as I can, make him earn the basket, or better yet, STOP him from dunking in my face. To me, if he didn't take the 1-on-1 he would be taking away my opportunity to get some respect back. Getting someone's pity isn't a sign of respect.

There is no running up the score in football, you play hard for 60 minutes

However, where I came from if you we up 38-0 amd passing on 4th down in 3rd/4th qtr...

I'm certain our DC would have said blitz 'em, send 'em a message and don't worry about any penalties

noone from tampa -

Interesting isn't it! In each of the losses, we passed the ball more on 1st down in the second half, than we did in the first half. And In each of the wins, we ran the ball more often on 1st down in the 2nd half, than we did in the first half.

Did that make sense?

AL-I think that "short crisp passing game" is what won yesterday against the Skins. The Skins sat back and gave them those passes. But if the Skins had taken them away, Brady would have thrown long. Dude can do it all, and Belichick has the smarts to know what he should do each week.

On the other hand, Williams seemed wedded to the notion of taking away the long stuff and didn't adjust as the game went on.

Man Boobs explained his thinking in the Comcast interview with Strawberry Shortcake. He said as much: take away the deep game. That part worked. Force them to kick field goals instead of TDs: that part didn't. His statements were something to the effect of, "We know they're going to move the ball downfield, we just need to force them to kick field goals instead of TDs."

Of course, the anemic offense wouldn't have scored enough to win anyway.

Time to file this one way and forget about it as quickly as possible.

Not sure if anyone has asked yet but does this mean they bring up Byron Westbrook?

My 9:43pm does seem like a bit of a given at first glance, but when you take into account the fact that we were in front at half time in two of the losses, my comment makes more sense.

I'm talking about the Rogers injury, does anyone know if they will be bringing up Byron Westbrook or someone else from the practice squad?

Outside of the Pats game the run to pass 2-1 in the first half

If ahead in 2nd, it goes 3-1 or 4-1
behind they throw more which is expected

Not sure if anyone has asked yet but does this mean they bring up Byron Westbrook?

Posted by: tweedr01 | October 29, 2007 09:51 PM

I wouldn't bet on it. I doubt they trust him yet. They'll be checking the list of 42-year-old corners who have been out of the game for less than three years and who have appeared in three Pro Bowls. Lot of talent there.

On the other hand, the D actually has given young guys a chance, unlike Gibbs' O. Maybe if Westbrook's looked good in practice they'll give him a shot.

Quick hits:

- registration is depressing...only for it in that I hate people posting under other posters names, and that ultimately is what did it, but its lame.....

- Gov and the rest, puleez...if you cant stop them they score. Also your assuming BB had class to begin with...he is a world class azz hole...what did you expect him to do? I never doubted he wouldnt put the gun on us

- I think Janso was right....gut check and stop them for once...when Vrabel is in...um we should have seen that on tape....Marcus was straight froze on that play....

- I wish we could put it to a team once and while....problem with us is we feel sorry for a team when we have 3 point leadat the half!!!!!

- look we sucked it hard....take our lumps and move on....maybe let it eat them alive every game this season....IF we beat the Jets no celebrating, hot dog crap either...this should humble us even if we win out (not a prediction just making a point!)

the GB game though the ran more 2nd halg because they were ahead well into 4rd qtr

tweedr01 - Seems like the obvious choice, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Will depend on how far along his development is, and on how Smoot is going. They may look at going after a free-agent who was with us in Training Camp, like Jerametrius Butler.

thanks te, kost
it figures they go after the latest cb retiree with 2+ pro bowls/superbowls on their resume, but didn't butler get injured in the preseason? i hope they try going with the younger guys, i think they know the system better anyways, less learning time

I think the Giants game is the stand out stat.

1st Half 1st Down ratio - 69% Run 31% Pass

Halftime lead- 14 points

2nd Half 1st Down ratio - 40% Run 60% Pass

And that's playing with a lead for the most part.

I'm with you on youth. I'd much rather see them grab a guy off, say, New England's practice squad than one of the superannuated old fudds who are sitting on their butts right now.

Too many of the Redskins seem like their best football is behind them, and too few have it ahead of them.

tweedr01,

Sportnet reported tonight that the Skins may promote Westbrook or John Eubanks from the practice squad and they may bring in outside players for workouts.

I like Eubanks, he plays balls out 24/7, i'd take him and westbrook could end up just like his brother. give him a chance and he might blow up the field like brian.

wouldnt be surprised if they brought back stoutmire. as long as smoot can be healthy and macklin playing the 3. prioleau will probably be used more in coverage in nickel.

Hey noone from tampa,
So, what do you think was USF over-rated or is UCONN better?

What would you think of Skins starting Betts at RB?

but stoutmire is a safety, wouldn't him and prioleau be a little slow playing cb, i know eubanks and westbrook are fast SJKers and looked real good in preseason, worth a shot?

f5f5f5f5f5f5...

I am bummed about this, since it seemed like Carlos was making some strides this year, especially in support of the running game. He still had his iffy moments in coverage, but he was no longer the glaring liability he had been the past few seasons, when he was a sitting duck.

Okay, I think that accounts for our share of grievous injuries this season. No mas.

Time of possession
NE 37:49
W 22:11

From Redskins.com -

Gibbs said team officials would consider its options in terms of adding depth at cornerback. It's possible the team could work out several free agents on Tuesday.

The Redskins' have Springs, Smoot, Torrence and Macklin as cornerbacks on the roster, plus they have young prospects John Eubanks and Byron Westbrook on the practice squad.

"I think we'll look at all of our options there just based on what we think is best," Gibbs said. "Obviously we have two guys there on the practice squad who we really like--young guys that [cornerbacks coach] Jerry Gray has been working with. We'll make a decision based on everything that's out there."

"That's something that we're going to have to overcome. Somebody else is going to have to step in and play well. Hopefully we'll get Fred back. There'll be some other guys who'll have to step up. David Macklin is going to have to step up."

From Redskins.com -

Gibbs said team officials would consider its options in terms of adding depth at cornerback. It's possible the team could work out several free agents on Tuesday.

The Redskins' have Springs, Smoot, Torrence and Macklin as cornerbacks on the roster, plus they have young prospects John Eubanks and Byron Westbrook on the practice squad.

"I think we'll look at all of our options there just based on what we think is best," Gibbs said. "Obviously we have two guys there on the practice squad who we really like--young guys that [cornerbacks coach] Jerry Gray has been working with. We'll make a decision based on everything that's out there."

"That's something that we're going to have to overcome. Somebody else is going to have to step in and play well. Hopefully we'll get Fred back. There'll be some other guys who'll have to step up. David Macklin is going to have to step up."

kost,

No Butler. Buffalo picked him up.

man for some reason that just doesn't sound very reassuring kost

JustMe - Well there you go, thanks.

Redskin Ray,

USF was in shock after the Rutgers game, the played with little emotion, even the coach. On a good day UConn does not beat USF.

I think that we can afford to give Smoot an extra week off since we're playing the Jets. They're starting Clemons, they're a run first offense, Grilliams need to blitz heavy and force this kid to make some mistakes.

Boy, things are looking thin at CB and OL.
I looked at the remainder of the schedule.
It's impossible to predict but I have us finishing 8-8.

How about you folks?

The only thing that pisses me off about the pats is this sound equipment cheet thing that we were told they will do, they do it and they get away with it. Skins had no communication with Saunders or upstairs for the first 29 minutes and no one seems to call the Pats out for it. That being said. After 50 secconds Saunders should have ran down to the field and started calling the play from the sidelines.

11/4 @ Jets 1pm ET FOX Win
11/11 vs. Eagles 1pm ET FOX Win
11/18 @ Cowboys 4:15pm ET FOX Loss
11/25 @ Buccaneers 1pm ET FOX Win
12/2 vs. Bills 1pm ET CBS Win
12/6 vs. Bears 8:15pm ET NFLN Win
12/16 @ Giants 8:15pm ET NBC Loss
12/23 @ Vikings 1pm ET FOX Win
12/30 vs. Cowboys 1pm ET FOX Loss

10-6 but gettin swept by the cowsh*ts and gmen

Troy Vincent anyone?

Is Vincent on the market?

10:42 was me.

I can't play the guessing game -- especially since this team still doesn't really have an identity on offense, and we don't know how the D is going to look w/out one of its top 3 corners.

Hopefully, Macklin plays well. I seem to recall him looking okay in the preseason. If nothing else, he'll be so excited to get significant chunks of playing time with the team he grew up loving, he'll fight his guts out.

Chris Larry,

You are wrong and I can't believe I have to even explain this. It goes against everything that is sacred and honored in sports. There is a point when the score and time left on the clock make a comeback or even the hint of one an impossibility. At this point, in any sport, you take your foot off the gas. You stop kicking the guy with all your buddies while he is laying on the ground in a bloody heap. When the Bulls went on their championship tour and won 72 games, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman sat the fourth quarter. And that was done by arguably the greatest professional coach of all time in any sport. It's called sportsmanship. I watched the Dolphins game last week and what happened this week was different.

I am so disappointed how sportswriters are so in awe of how good the Patriots are that they swallow whole this idea that the Patriots should be doing this. And because they are so talented and excellent that this type of unsportsmanlike play should be celebrated.

I take back that I said Jason is a horrible dude. That was me being angry. But he does have absolutely horrible judgment on this issue.

I say activate Westbrook, the kid had some flashes in preseason.

Doesn't Vincent play safety now. That dude is old and probably too slow to check receivers anymore.

wow 10-6 that's really brave.
Oh wait, you posted as Oct 29
that's really going out on a limb.

10-6? You really think they are going to win all of those games?
going 6-3 the rest of the way with this bunch?

I hope you are right and not me [8-8]

Last Season Vincent "said" he could play CB if needed. Don't know if its true.

If we see some kind of mid season ajustment I think a winning record over the next few games is a possability. But those are big ifs.

I wish Saunders would try a week down on the sidelines. He might not be able to see the field the way he likes, but I think it would help the players to feed off of his energy. During training camp, I couldn't help but be impressed with his enthusiasm, the way he constantly gave feedback and encouragement to the players, and how well they responded to it. Part of the disconnect for the offense might be because there's none of that during actual games.

Of course, he could be up in the booth as well so no one will know which plays he's calling and which St. Joe is calling.

Eh, I wouldn't bother with Troy Vincent.

I was just playin' when I said Troy Vincent, I don't want him or think he'll be Carlos' replacement.

I think it will be Westbrook or Eubanks.

Troy Vincent?
Please don't.

Eubanks or Westbrook either one.
Go ahead and bring them up and give them so experience if Carlos is going to be gone for the rest of the year anyway...

Gov,

Yeah your probably right, that "rightness" and $2 will get you a small coffe starbucks....

like really who cares, when you get your azz kicked that kinda whining sounds kinda lame

Brady is a pretty boy dueche, "The hood" is a legendary jerk off...what are you expecting from them??????? That was par for the course for how they always operate, to expect different is naieve.

Janso is right, stop em! BUTT one day this bitter play with fire is gonna bite the Pats hard, and I will feel fine laughing at them and their dangling knee....but don't give me this no class crap....

And the Bulls sat their dudes b/c they play 72 games and it wasnt worth the injury...smart long term plan, not an over abundance of sportsmanship....puleez its pro sports