I have really tried to say out of this and think more of the good things about Sean and what he has meant to me. However, this is really getting out of hand. Do you guys even know what a thug is? One incident doesn't make a person a thug. He had one incident and trust me I worked and been around thugs (some in my own family) and they have a long history. DUI doesn't make a person a thug. There is nothing in his past other than atv incident. I am a Muslim as your all know. However, it's funny to me hear (I am assuming here) all these so called Christian people talk as if God can't touch a person and change them."Through Me all things is possible". That's not from the Quran but from the bible. There is s section in the Quran that is called "The Lip Professors". Don't say you believe in God and His power but don't believe He can change a man.

I said this yesterday, I've been impressed with Snyder throughout this whole tragic ordeal.

Also, I've said this before, but its worth repeating. Jason/Cindy, you guys are the best, the work that you've done to keep us in the loop has been just fantastic. Thanks for all that you've done, and will do.

You are right gregmarino88. No question that The Dan has come up big. As well as JLC and Cyn Cyty. I am wearing the Reaper jersey for the last time tomorrow and will get it framed after that. May you have peace and Allah bless your family Reaper.

jm,
As always you're right on the mark.
I hope I'm as ready as Taylor was when my time comes.

Bump to new post:

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As to what Taylor did, I don't think he denied waving a gun in a man's face. According to yesterday's Post, "It ultimately led to him facing a felony charge of aggravated assault and a misdemeanor count of battery, which were bargained down to 18 months of probation after a lengthy legal fight that nearly resulted in him spending at least three years in prison."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 29, 2007 08:48 AM

Actually TA Sean's former lawyer said Sean never actually had a gun, and the brandishing the weapon part was just the accusation..was never proved, but Sean/his lawyer admitted he did have an altercation. These same people later came and shot up his truck which and Sean was not able to press charges. This is all according to now a few different over the phone interviews I heard watching Comcast Sportsnet. So as far as I can tell according to the law and what's on the books. Sean never actually had a weapon. Which doesn't really explain why then he was not allowed to have a gun of his own in his house, and not even sure if that was actually the case. The point being none of us really know what happened that day. he may have had a gun he may not have had a gun...and we have no idea the events that let up to that.

One thing we all should have learned over the past few days (you really should have known this already) just because a guy on the TV or a reporter in a newspaper says it...doesn't mean that's the truth.

The difference between what Rolle and Wilbon is saying may be subtile to many but it's quite different I believe.

Wilbon was saying that because he was a black kid that grew up in a rough situation once you get to the NFL you have to get away from all of that...move on and separate yourself from your old friends and acquaintances that are bad influences on you...and really just interested in you for your wealth at that point probably anyway. Perfect...absolutely right...can not argue with that. Another pretty smart guy that has come a long way with his life that I actually really respect now (used to friggen hate the guy) Deion Sanders. He knows, he understands how hard it is to get away from your younger life and them move into all that fame and stardom. He understands that some guys no matter how hard they try can not get away from those people in their past. Sometimes those friends and acquaintances feel that you owe them in some way maybe for helping them reach stardom...maybe because of some code or oath they created when younger "When one of us makes it, we take the rest with us". Then they get to the NFL and everyone is telling them to drop their old lives don't look back. Many try and manage a fairly clean break and can move on...other's have bonds sometimes that are too tight...and those people will just not leave them no matter what they do.

This is more what Rolle was talking about. I think he was saying possibly a combo of...some of his friends were bitter that he didn't take them along...or even more general...that a larger group of acquaintances were jealous and bitter that Sean made it and they did not. And that lots of people down there knew who Sean was maybe thought they were closer to Sean than they were. Also could mean that Sean didn't really know this person, people at all...just that they lived close to them grew up around him...were jealous..were...Who the hell really knows?!

Either way Wilbon has no place...and Rolle does. Simple as that. If you don't get it sorry.

Miami and the surrounding area is a damn rough place. We all wish Sean had just dropped everything and moved up here..maybe...maybe he would have been safer. But his whole life was down there...family friends...that was where he was born and grew up. No one is asking you to move away from all your family and friends and your whole life...so you don't really know.

Just remember no aspect of life is ever as black and white as you seem to want to make it.

Posted by: rbfett | November 29, 2007 12:36 PM

Just looked on StubHub....less than 100 tickets available for Sunday. However, for the Thursday night game, there are almost 3800 tickets available. I guess with it being a Thursday night game people are not so thrilled about being there late and going to work on Friday.

Why would we expect the media to get it right? When do they ever? There is always a slant or a spin to everything. Politics, sports, entertainment, you name it. Bias comes into play, because these stories are written by people with biases and prejudices.
There have been many days on this blog where there are more posts complaining about jlc than talking football.
The media (especially tv) collectively having their heads up their a**es is nothing new.
Jason should be commended for his work and presentation of this sad, sad story.
RIP 21

Here's a collection of some of the light-hearted comments about Sean Taylor that were posted back during happier times, the NFL draft last April. RI bloggers were really concerned about who would be the Redskins first round pick and how to turn the defense around.
Some of us were questioning the Sean Taylor LaRon Landry tandem. What do you call a secondary with Sean Taylor and LaRon Landry? Some feared that Sean Taylor would be even be traded. I really enjoyed this series of comments and thought some of you folks would get a kick out of re-reading them.
HAIL!
(Don't fear the Reaper.)

LaRon Landry and Sean Taylor. That's the most porn star sounding safety tandem in NFL history.
Posted by: RRCC | April 29, 2007 11:50 AM
Sean Taylor once received a 15-yard penalty for hitting a receiver in the soul.
Posted by: cload and daggar | April 30, 2007 12:43 AM
Well,
The worst case scenario used to be getting hit by Sean Taylor.
Now you can get hit by Sean Taylor and LaRon at the same D@mn time...I don't want to think about, I may throw up.
Posted by: Stumped | April 30, 2007 12:56 AM
Sean Taylor's car has airbags......to protect his dash.
Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2007 01:43 AM
Sean Taylor is from a small town called Knockareceiversheadoff,Fla....and he's getting homesick.
Posted by: | April 30, 2007 08:47 AM

The light sleeps with Sean Taylor on.
Has that one been taken already? If so, I apologize.
Posted by: SMACK | April 30, 2007 12:38 AM
Sean Taylor once peeled an onion and the onion cried.
Posted by: | April 30, 2007 11:00 AM
Roy Williams pushes children on swings, one swing at a time.
Sean Taylor just stares at the swings, and all the kids start swinging at once.
Posted by: Otter | April 30, 2007 03:45 PM
Q. What do you get when you cross Sean Taylor with a Ferrari?
A. You get obliterated. Nobody crosses Sean Taylor.
Posted by: etrod | April 30, 2007 04:57 PM
...but he'll take the Ferrari.
(I'm really trying)
Posted by: etrod | April 30, 2007 04:58 PM
The Reaper jokes are out of control. You guys have too much time on your hands. But keep them coming. LMGO
Posted by: jm220 | April 30, 2007 05:25 PM
Sean Taylor and the skins defense
Cruel and the Gang
Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | April 30, 2007 05:30 PM
Sean Taylor can't stick his elbow in his ear, but he can stick your elbow in your ear.
Posted by: 4-12 | April 30, 2007 05:37 PM
Nicknames for Taylor & Landry?
How about acronymns instead?
OOP = out of position
and
BWAS = better wait and see
Posted by: notherNWskinsfan | April 30, 2007 06:12 PM
On Feb. 10, 2007, hostile aliens from the planet Puntron 3 in the Gamma Pooch sector of the Landeta Major Galaxy decended upon Honolulu, HI in phase 1 of their diabolical plot to conquer earth.
After seeing Sean Taylor's hit on Bryan Moorman, the aliens smiled, offered us their technology, returned to their home planet and turned off all the lights.
We need a new thread.
Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2007 07:15 AM
Sean Taylor once clogged a urinal.
Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2007 09:08 AM
LaRon Landy jumped out of a truck and broke his teeth.
Sean Taylor jumped out of a truck and broke the road.
Posted by: | May 1, 2007 09:32 AM
LaRon Landy jumped out of a truck and broke his teeth.
Sean Taylor jumped out of a truck and broke the road.
Posted by: | May 1, 2007 09:32 AM
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Me likey. Was that you, etrod? You're getting your mojo back. ;-)
Posted by: JustMe | May 1, 2007 10:15 AM
Sean Taylor wears a helmet to protect other players.
Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2007 11:01 AM
That said, Sean Taylor became enraged one day that his shadow was "following too close".
His shadow now maintains a "respectful" 30 ft. distance.
Posted by: cload and daggar | May 2, 2007 09:50 AM

I just wanted to give a quick update on the RIP 21 shirts at Bucktown Tees.

You guys have been amazing, and as of noon today, we're up to about $200.

Once a charity/memorial fund is designated by the Taylor family, I will donate all of the proceeds.

Thank you so much. Everyone should be proud for helping out a worthy cause like this.

If you're at the game this Sunday, cheer extra hard for those of us who cannot be there.

If you want to keep an eye on the sale count, go to Bucktown Skins Fan and check the counter on the side bar.

HAIL!

Stumped, thanks. I've been thinking about how Chuck Norris can come out of hiding now.

Can't find the live chat. Anyone got a link?

nevermind, I got it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/11/22/DI2007112200996.html

Stumped...outstanding post...Laughed my friggen ass off a few times..thanks for that!

Bucktown nice job on the Ts. Probably grab one tomorrow when my sugar momma gets paid. haha

Jason,

Wondered if you had a reaction to Steinburg's take on Shapiro and Wilbon's articles on Taylor this week.

BTW, thank you for your effort & dedication in what must be a difficult week for you there.

I am not a fan of the Redskins as many of you are, I do not follow this code of football much, I am more of a rugby and football (soccer) follower. I live in the DC Metro area and have been in the US since 2001, and am a casual observer as far as the Skins go since I live in the area.
I think some of the criticism JLC takes from many Skins fans is way over the top. He is being objective in his analysis and without any bias. I have to commend his coverage of this unfortunate tragedy, it is quite possibly the best coverage I have seen.

Stumped, everyone at work is wondering why I can't stop laughing out loud. Thanks for that repost, f-ing hilarious.

Bucktown, thank you for making the shirts. My shirt has been mailed and should be here today or tomorrow, so I can wear it on Sunday.

Rip # 21 & HTTR!

Bucktown- thanks for the great work with the shirts. Mine is in the mail now and will be worn proudly.

Great post, Stumped. You guys always had me laughing with those lines.

Great stuff Stumped. I know we did more than those.

I wonder if there is an IT geek at WAPO who could pull back some keywords from the archives and get that list of all the funny stuff. Puts a smile on your face ya know.

This year it was funny, everytiem I saw Taylor hit somebody or a WR drop a ball with ST near, I kept hearing those words from some song.... "He's a Bad Bad Man!"

Thanks so much Stumped.

Thanks Bucktown! I got a shirt and will wear it on Sunday! Everyone going to the game should get one!

Stumped, I am here daily. I post occasionally as Club320. I love that earlier post. I smiled so big. That is the best way the fans can memorialize and remember The Meast. Cause lets face it folks, we did not really know this kid, in front of a mic or not. Transgressions or not. We knew him as the Reaper. And the relationship that existed was us in the stands (or on TV), and him on the field BLOWING MF'ers up!!!

Good stuff stumped, good memories

My personal reaction to a comment during the 1:00 PM Chat with Jason:

There was a man who had a blog
And Jasno was his name-o

J-A-S-N-O
J-A-S-N-O
J-A-S-N-O

And Jasno was his name-o!

Good job with the shirts bucktown, I should be getting my hooded sweatshirt tomarrow in time to wear it out, unfortuantly I cant make it to the game but will be around town in it.

Thanks Stumped.

The fact that these two lines were in the same post by the same poster makes me laugh, in the kind of non-funny way:

"Either way Wilbon has no place...and Rolle does. Simple as that. If you don't get it sorry."

"Just remember no aspect of life is ever as black and white as you seem to want to make it."

I admire the way you roll, chrislarry.

Thanks for bringing back the good old days, Stumped.

There was a man who had a blog
And Jasno was his name-o

J-A-S-N-O
J-A-S-N-O
J-A-S-N-O

And Jasno was his name-o!

Posted by: tafka | November 29, 2007 01:53 PM

Ok that made me snort and spit coke somehow at the same time...LOL

Zebraskins,
Yeah, there were many, many more. That was just from 3 threads.

I just went back to the archives for a few minutes and got lucky.

I'm hoping to go back and put together a comprehensive list for the wiki.

Sean Taylor: The man and the myth.

I just wanted to post a few of them quickly to get a more positive vibe going on the blog.

The fact that these two lines were in the same post by the same poster makes me laugh, in the kind of non-funny way:

"Either way Wilbon has no place...and Rolle does. Simple as that. If you don't get it sorry."

"Just remember no aspect of life is ever as black and white as you seem to want to make it."

Posted by: chrislarry | November 29, 2007 01:56 PM

Yeah I really meant to say "In my mind" and was actually planning on adding a sentence or two to clarify and just never went back.

But either way TA, CL I know you are reaching the bottom of the debate bag when all you can do is argue semantics. Gets petty. And TA certainly never going to defend you again as I did a few articles ago...ha And TA I thought you said you were leaving?

On that note I actually am.

Jason..Jasno, Cindy. And everyone else that has posted heartwarming comments over the past few days thanks. It's really helped make this grieving process easier I think for many of us.

And once again any of you headed to the game on Sunday. Cheer your ass off. I don't want to be able to hear the announcers speaking it's so loud in there.

Stumped, Is it wrong to just get a new String of this going? I mean this blog has been so down in the mouth and controversial, and in some cases nasty. This is the way we can celebrate the relationship with ST that we had. Etrod, I think you should fired it up and come strong. The spirit of Two One lives!

What matters is that he's going to be missed by many, and that he will be remembered as a great player - and by all accounts from those who actually KNEW him - a very soft-spoken, respectful young man off the field.

What also matters is that he was shot in his own bedroom; he is the victim, not the perp.

The rest of it, his past (we all have pasts), is just a lot of background noise made by media talking heads and writers to fill air time/columns.

I won't mince words: Wilbon is a jackass. Period.

Rest in peace, Sean.

csquaredskins,
At first I was reluctant to repost those comments because some people might not be ready for it...we're all still grieving.

It appears that most of us are ready for the wake, and by that I mean not only the wake associated with a funeral, but also the waves of sorrow we leave behind us as we go forward.

We should be celebrating his life, no?
He's in a better place.

Go for it man.
(I just really suck at it)

Jasno has been doing a great job, and i really think its great that everyone in consensus has let him know. i'm sure it helps while he has to go through this too, and thanks to bucktown too. i'm getting my shirt, baseball shirt, and wearing it to the game. i'm also bringing a sign, anyone have any ideas? i was thinking of "Do it for Sean, He Saved 2 Lives" or something like that