First!?

HEY!!!!!!

Can Eubanks walk with an injured toe?

I guess the hot looking reporters work in the WaPo retail section ...

All I want for Christmas is a Redskins Playoffs birth and a Gibbs extension

Can Eubanks talk with an injured doe?

(just wondering)

Why does the name Omar Stoutmire always make me think of cookies?

Barney
Pip Squeak? LOL, yes sir grandpa! I haven't heard that word since watching classic eighties high school movies. Tenure? What the hell do I care about tenure? I just want the Skins to win, I don't care whose at the helm to do it. And where in my post did you read that I was demanding he get fired? I'm against him getting a contract extension for up to this point a 500 record. And where were you old chivalrous one, when this team was losing game after game and over half the people on here were calling for his head? And I could really care less what you personally have problems with in regard to other peoples opinions. Any don't YOU forget this is the NFL, and without the fans there would be no Skins and Gibbs would of never got the opportunity he did.

And just because you keep the Burger King restrooms sparkling clean day after day, it doesn't mean your job is guaranteed for life, right? He's got a job just like every other American out there, and no matter how good you WERE at your job, doesn't mean your entitled to keep it if you don't keep producing. That's life...Old man.

freakzilla, you're thinking of otis spunkmeyer.

who coincidentally roomed with neil olkewicz at maryland.

...or Orville Redenbacher.

mmmmm, popcorn.

freakzilla, you're thinking of otis spunkmeyer.

Yes! Thank you. That was gonna drive me crazy.

And I thought Olkewicz roomed with Famous Amos.

I was so crushed when I found out Orville Redenbacher wasn't a real person.

"agreed to terms"?

There are two weeks left in the season and this is a street free agent. How many ham sandwiches can you eat in two weeks?

Orville Redenbacher isn't a real person? F my childhood memories.

wait, so how could he die if he wasn't real?

Nate, I think "agreed to terms" means that Omar wanted to be called "Exclusive Defensive Back Reliever," but the team wanted to call him "Pre-Approved Seasonal Consultant."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_Redenbacher

real guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_spunkmeyer

fake guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Wonsley

real guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Campbell

fake guy, unless you count kost52

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_Redenbacher

real guy

Well, I'll be jiggered (as my grandpa used to say). I was always told he was made up, just like Lee Harvey Oswald.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Winged_unicorn&redirect=no

real guy

Not sure what to make of these not guilty pleas. But I sure as hell am not interested in following coverage of a trial, getting to know these young men, hearing details of that fateful night...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3162052

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_redding

real guy, really incredible talent. just doesn't get better than "These Arms of Mine."

Look people. Gibbs may not be on top of his clock mgmt game, but they do have a younger core group to build around and I don't want that disrupted! Teams that keep coaches eventually win more oft than not! Sign the extension!

I'm really not interested in following the trial, either. No matter what happens, it won't bring Sean back, and even if I follow every iota of the trial, it won't change the verdict or the sentence. A bright light was snuffed out and stolen from millions of people. That's plenty for me to be sad, angry, even hopeful about, right there.

"agreed to terms"?

There are two weeks left in the season and this is a street free agent. How many ham sandwiches can you eat in two weeks?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 19, 2007 09:30 PM

Not sure what the vet min is but guess its around 800k. So he'll pocket about 100 if he sticks for 2 weeks. Not bad for 120 minutes of work and some practice time.

Skins are getting no respect once again by the books. 6.5 point dogs for the second consecutive Sunday night. Same result I hope. F NYG and NO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Campbell

fake guy, unless you count kost52

Otis Campbell was the first person to make me want to become a fat, sloppy drunk.

I'm not there yet.

Otis Campbell was the first person to make me want to become a fat, sloppy drunk.

For the record, John Belushi was second, Barney Gumble was third.

Oh yeah -- go look at the picture in Boz's column from Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/17/AR2007121700092_2.html?sid=ST2007121700188

Doesn't it look like Doughty and Toomer are doing some kind of weird Irish jig?

Why does the name Omar Stoutmire always make me think of cookies?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2007 08:40 PM
_______________________________

Makes me think of a spindly basketball player.

Doughty and Toomer are big Morris dancers. You didn't know about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance

Doughty and Toomer are big Morris dancers.

Neat!

I'll bet toddcoat can do that. He's English.

Doesn't it look like Doughty and Toomer are doing some kind of weird Irish jig?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2007 10:45 PM
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Actually, it is the new millenium version of what Charles Mann used to call the "high booty" stance.

I'm still miffed that zcezcest got to the Eubanks "walk" joke before I could.

hey where have these posters been:

noone from tampa

big fish

jack

cindys boy toy

redskirt

redskin willie

shuttledik

How did I miss this -- here are some of those Morris dancers resplendent in Redskin colours, and the proper configuration, white jerseys and burgundy pants, to boot!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/NorthWestMorris20040501_CopyrightKaihsuTai.jpg

Look closely and you can see the tiny, handstitched curly R on their hats.

Apparently they are from Northwest DC.

cL, noone somehow had his IP address blacklisted... very weird, and apparently still unresolved.

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/thread/1008910/IP+Banned+from+RI

Redskin Willie was suffering from blogxhaustion mid-season and I think is hanging back. Hope to catch up with him in person for the finale.

We don't see enough of sfskin up here, which I would guess has something to do with, like, work, such as.

oh please redskins willie, pull a tube and get back to blogging already....

Comedy. This is vintage CP. LOL

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3161188&categoryId=2459789&n8pe6c=2

F using work as an excuse...i work my azz off and still get some blogging in

do what I do, ignore the wife hahaha...

"yes coming to bed in 5 minutes honey..."

...also, and I hope he wouldn't mind my saying so, Redskin Willie is spending a ton of time with a wonderful little lady -- he's giddy as a schoolboy, absolutely head over heels. Which is cute as the dickens. And is a pretty doggone good excuse to be off-blog.

I'll take the liberty of quoting an email from Willie from earlier today. Close your eyes and it's like he's up here with us:

"Two great wins to salvage a season that would have been so easy to mail in. Whatever happens from here, it's been a bit of redemption for St. Joe, in my opinion.

"Toddball??? Who knew?"

Emailed by: Redskin_Willie | December 19, 2007

F work not slowing down one tiny bit in mid-December. I mean, sure it's a good sign of the health of the company blah blah blah, but good grief, give it a rest already. It's all a man can do to keep one eye on the blog and the other on this or that action item.

"Ghost Town" the Specials

glad we're not taking the ultimatum as seriously as some of the previous milestones, or millstones, or whatevs.

How did I miss this -- here are some of those Morris dancers resplendent in Redskin colours, and the proper configuration, white jerseys and burgundy pants, to boot!

I want one of those hats to wear on my paper route.

Well, the ol' clock on the wall says....

...the hell?

Who took my clock?!

Anyway, turning in early tonight. Had some pretty wicked insomnia last night, and I'm plum tuckered.

aye, zilla, aye.

hey where have these posters been:

noone from tampa

big fish

jack

cindys boy toy

redskirt

redskin willie

shuttledik

Posted by: chrislarry | December 19, 2007 11:18 PM

I'm glad to have made your MIA Hall of Concern, ass.

F Chris Larry

With Love,
The Living Breathing TDawg

And don't forget Periculum...and like such as.

The Cindy needs to get us the count.

Then its time for role call.

Uncircle the wagons, its time to lay down some incessant alphanumeric jibba jabba.

Hail, etc

I'm getting this feeling that the Skins are coming together as a TEAM since Sean death. I really believe that they will win the last two games.

When I'm playing Madden and my star playmaker gets a season ending injury, I just press reset. It is really encouraging to see this team rally. I especially see it in Smoot and Landry. I liked the "suicide mission" story. I really hope Smoot fights his guts out in Minnesota. Last tie he was there it was the "love boat," this time it will be the Boat of Pain.

I believe in two more!

I believe as well!

Noone said on the wiki that his work block WAPO IP address.

I dont know who used to quote simpsons all the time, but jspaceman or freakzilla (cant remember which and dont want to go back to the last thread to see) seems to quote it alot as well.

I figure a lot of peeps change their name time to time.

After one heck of a lot of soul-searching, I have to write this publicly. Joe Gibbs, I apologize.

I have been loudly critical about Gibbs 2.0. I've asked, begged, screamed and prayed for a new coach since last year. From poor clock management to sticking with shaky veterans to questionable signings and play-calling, it just seemd to get worse rather than better.

But what happened at Giants Stadium last Sunday was nothing short of awe-inspiring. And it has nothing to do with playoff chances. I figured this would be their Little Bighorn; get slaughtered in about 20 minutes and season over. They had almost no reason to play well or to be expected to. Especially the way they've played in New Yorok in the past.

A funny thing happened on their way to oblivion, though. The Washington Redskins found themselves amid the ashes of their season. They were our Rocky Balboa. Long odds, almost zero chance. But what they had that we all missed was heart. And that starts with the coach. For all his foibles in 2.0, he erased them all with the heart he and his team showed in one blustery night in the New Jersey swamps.

His bust is once more shining brightly in Canton. Forgive me coach. Win or lose this week, stay and coach as long as you want. You earned it in way no one should ever have to.

Amen, Soups and cmecyclist.

On paper, this team has so much less strength than at the beginning of the season.

But when it comes to heart, guts, and fight, this team is so strong. It staggered, it got knocked to the canvas. It struggled to get up against Buffalo. It got its legs back against Chicago. It got its wind back against New York. And now Minny had better look the F out.

Why does the name Omar Stoutmire always make me think of cookies?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2007 08:40 PM

Thank you for making me spit my coffee all over my monitor!! I guess Safety Omar Stoutmire is a more intimidating presence than Safety Otis Spunkmeyer!

I'm not saying he'll be cut by the Cardinals, I'm just saying:

And Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald unlocked a $5 million escalation, pushing his 2008 base salary to a knee-wobbling $14.6 million.

Worth keeping an eye on...

Greg;

Which may be the exact problem, he will be expensive!

I want to find a 2nd tier tall guy. One who can play, but is not an every down player. Since we have El and Moss, we dont need a bonafide #2, we just need a bonafide tall guy who can catch and go over the middle.

AD@CT IN THA DOME,GETCHA POPCORN READY!!I DARE THA SKINS TO RUN.EVEN THA OWNER SAID DON'T RUN!!

Little Virgina Newelpost writes:

"Dear Santa,
My Daddy says that if you were real, you'll bring the Resdskins the ability to seriously beat down the Vikings and Cowgirls as a Christmas present. I believe you are real, but I'm not sure if being involved in NFL games is what you're about. Could you please let me know?

Dear Virginia,
Yes, Santa is real. In fact, he nearly lost his home at the North Pole trying to beat the spread on Redskins games this season, and he was getting creamed by starting Campbell on his fantasy team. Santa so much likes the Skins, that his outfit is burgundy and gold (not that red nonsense you see on the fake guy at the mall). Santa would like nothing better than to see the Skins win out, but he's no miracle worker (that's the boss's area of expertise). Santa will do his best (Vikes and Girls are getting nothing but coal) but it's up to the coaches to figure out how to deal with the Vikes 8-in-the-box plan to stymie the running game. Santa wants Collins to play out of his mind again, and that should be very helpful. And please tell your Dad that using God's name like that when he watches Skins games is counterproductive.

Merry Christmas to all and to all, Hail.

Zeb, good call, he probably will be expensive. Just something to keep an eye on.

Toddcoat, what are your feelings on Parcells as your VP, of football ops? He had some good drafts with the pukes.

AD@CT IN THA DOME,GETCHA POPCORN READY!!I DARE THA SKINS TO RUN.EVEN THA OWNER SAID DON'T RUN!!

Posted by: kyler2780 | December 20, 2007 09:16 AM

Is this the written form of down syndrom>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Quagmire

fake guy

no relation to Omar Stoutmire, I presume.

I was a formidable Simpsons quoter back in RI 1.0 but because of the new system, BMGO as Homer is not the same. I will throw some quotes out here and there. God that show is good.

Sams3, lay off the Downs kids. I wish more people in the world were as loving and positive. Tourettes is fair game though.

kyler, I think you're just stupid.

JustMe, just lovin the Portis v. Miss Cooley-to-be game, esp. about the fried snails and "Name that Tune? Is that even a real game show?" and "NOOOO! She didn't say Motley Crue!"

Not to nit-pick, but, whats the point of writing, 'tha'?? I mean its the same number of keystrokes, and you can actually spell it correctly. And at the same time, give yourself the illusion of being somewhat intelligent....crazy, I know...

Larry Fitzgerald WOULD be expensive, but after he gets cut, the meter gets reset, so pay no attention to the current salary number. It seems like it could be a value choice though -- where they get what you pay for (i.e., more like London Fletcher than, say, another big money WR from SF or the safety from St.Lou).

lfitz is bomb diggity!

giggity giggity!

"Did you say Utes?"

"Yeah, two Utes."

"What is a Ute?"

"Oh, excuse me, your honor. Two YOOTHZ."

Buick Skylark

This blog is dead..........

Magic Gritts!!!!

Any self respecting southerner would never use instant gritts!

How many bushes would you say? 1,2,3,4,5. 5 bushes. Ah, Ah, you forgot this one and this one! 7 bushes!

I can't believe I have to cheer for the Iggles this week, I hate them so very much.

Nothing like some My Cousin Vinny to help boost spirts! COME ON REDSKINS!!!!

This week needs to hurry up, I can't wait anymore!!

ME TOO, but if it helps our Skins, i'm game!

I live in south Jersey so it's twenty times more painful to cheer for them. It's all Igs aroudn here, one day someone decided that south Jersey ='s Philly and everyone just went anlong with it.

I'ts much easier to cheer for the Bills and the Pats over the next two weeks. Then we won't have to cheer for the Iggles at all.

On a side note, is anyone getting screwed more that the Falcons right now? Jenna Jamison couldn't keep up with these guys.

"So, what do you think? Breakfast? Two breakfasts."

Not to nit-pick, but, whats the point of writing, 'tha'?? I mean its the same number of keystrokes, and you can actually spell it correctly. And at the same time, give yourself the illusion of being somewhat intelligent....crazy, I know...

Ratified, and also, punctuation is traditionally followed by a space, and:

@ means "at"

& means "and"

On a side note, is anyone getting screwed more that the Falcons right now? Jenna Jamison couldn't keep up with these guys.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 20, 2007 10:26 AM

ZING

Welcome back, Mr. Stoutmire!

Is it just me or does the Skins' relationship with the on-again-off-again safety seem a little like that of a battered spouse ... well, maybe a battered spouse who earns about a $100 grand a game ...

@ this time, I am down w/this & tha

@ this time I @m as well , tha people have spoken

Is it just me or does the Skins' relationship with the on-again-off-again safety seem a little like that of a battered spouse ...

Yes it does, however the redskins are the wife.

It's peanut butter jelly time.

For real.

Or as I call it, 2nd Breakfast.

Mmmmm.

Doughty and Toomer are big Morris dancers. You didn't know about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 19, 2007 10:54 PM

Doughty and Toomer are big Morris dancers.

Neat!

I'll bet toddcoat can do that. He's English.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2007 10:58 PM

I may have Morris Danced at some point in my past, but I'd prefer to draw a veil of discretion over that period of my life.

Seriously though, the dancers traditionally dance IN PUB GARDENS. It's really just an excuse to go on an elaborate pub crawl... "I'm just going dancing with the lads dear, I'll be back later. No, don't wait up for me, you know how long these dances go on".

It's right up there with going Wassailing, how many 'historic/traditional' excuses to go drinking can you come up with? :-)

And thanks Cindy for your boosting on the Fins yesterday. If it has to be the Big Fat Tuna to help us get going again, then so be it. I just hope we don't lose Cam.

Sam,
Know what you mean; I'm in Wilmington......hate to root for them but I guess we have to. I actually found myself cheering for them last week against Dallas. But living around here, I think I actually hate the Eags more.....definitely hate their fans and media more. Bunch of fair weather bandwaggoning j-holes.....fun to listen to WIP right after they lose......I can't stand when people call them the greatest fans in the world.....let's talk sellouts and we have a clear cut greatest fans in the world winner.

Otis B. Driftwood (the proper Groucho Marx one, not this BS Rob Zombie thing).

Not a real person, but should have been.

Regarding Cameron, Greenberg nailed it this morning...can you see Parcells with tears in his eyes over his team winning their first game in December? No. He's gone.

Parcells and Cameron are old friends jspace, I would be astounded if he is gone.

The other thing this means is that Huizenga will not sell out majority control, he had to assure Parcells of that before he would sign (which he hasn't yet as far as I know).

Dolphins should see if they can strike a deal for B.Quinn. Maybe now that the Browns have Anderson, they might be able to get Quinn for 75 cents on the dollar.

I wonder how Parcells will feel about buying ingredients for another chef?

I can see him pulling a Pat Riley, building a championship caliber team, then canning the coach and taking over...oops, I mean taking over so Cam can spend more time with his family.

For those who are constantly bashing the Portis/Bailey trade.........guess which team is out of the playoffs already, and guess which team is fighting on! Yeah, that Denver defense is awesome. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

i'm posing a sincere question here; in the situation the skins are in right now, with two games left and the season on the line, who would you rather have playing for us, portis or bailey? my vote still goes to portis.

Dolphins should see if they can strike a deal for B.Quinn. Maybe now that the Browns have Anderson, they might be able to get Quinn for 75 cents on the dollar.

Posted by: psps23 | December 20, 2007 11:00 AM

I would be shocked in Cle trades Quinn. A no 1 draft pick will cost a ton in return and if they put him on the block, there are a lot of teams that will be going after Quinn, I would expect Mia, Atl, Chi, Det, Min, Bal, to be on the QB market.

I always will call the Portis move the right move, the only thing I think you can question is the draft pick we gave up. Maybe a 4th round pick would have been more suitable.

We'd be looking at a much different Clinton Portis with Randy Thomas and John Jansen together. I'm still pleased as punch with the Champ/Portis trade.

toddcoat, from what I've read, they are only acquaintences through Bob Knight.

O)n the Portis vs Bailey trade, so we dont have to rehash it every 6 months.

Bailey wanted out.

Luckily we got something in return.

Granted it should have been straight up or a draft pick from Denver, but they knew they had us by the short hairs.

We got a back who is explosive and a playmaker. He has the all time rushing mark for our franchise and single handedly (with the olines help) got us to the playoffs despite Brunell in 05.

Once again, not the greatest trade, but at least we did not get 3 minor leaguers, a pitching prospect and cash ;)

dlhaze,

I don't think Bailey is the reason the Broncos arn't going to the playoffs. They can't stop the run, and thats not his fault! I still like Portis though, he is a warrior!

Cleveland appears to have a Drew Brees/Phillip Rivers situation shaping up. My money goes on Anderson being the one that goes.

I would be shocked in Cle trades Quinn. A no 1 draft pick will cost a ton in return and if they put him on the block, there are a lot of teams that will be going after Quinn, I would expect Mia, Atl, Chi, Det, Min, Bal, to be on the QB market.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 20, 2007 11:14 AM

Do you think they should keep him just because of what they gave up to get him? He could bring in some picks that could turn into valuable assets on defense. I'm not a big fan of the sentiment "because you made an investment in the past, you HAVE to see if the investment pans out." San Diego was in a similar position, and while Rivers is OK, i'm sure they'd much rather have kept Brees and dealt Rivers away if it happened all over again.

Skins flying way under the radar. Mike and Mike broke down the SB chances of all teams still alive for the playoffs and didn't even mention the skins this morning.

I think Parcells' goal is to eventually coach every team in the AFC East.

I wonder if Mike and Mike ever had a fight over whose name would go first in the title.

"Would you rather have a guy who scores points for a team or one who saves them?" If the team is struggling to score points in general the answer is easy. It's a BS debate either way to my mind.

Portis is a useful back, perhaps not 'elite' but then there aren't many who are, and they often off their perch pretty quickly anyway.

Bailey has been a shutdown corner, and possibly will be again. Denver has had a winning record for years and this year's 'failure' could be that they only end up 8-8. Denver's whole defense has been bad this year, Champ has gone with it.

It's been a real down year for the 'strong, defense-led' teams in general I think, look at the Ravens and Steelers. Even the Jaguars have had plenty scored on them by the teams with potent offenses.

All things being equal though I'd probably rather have the Corner, because a running back needs an o-line to make him valuable, a corner can usually do it on their own (see Green Bay's corners).

And I'll go on record on this for anyone who cares. NO WAY Miami takes Quinn, he's not worth anything. If we go after any QB it would be Anderson who I think will be a FA, not Quinn.

Thats because Mike and Mike are Dallas guys.

Amen Toddcoat. I'd rather have Champ. And as you said a RB needs a OLine.

I dont see Cleveland getting rid of either. They are not in tight cap constraints, you NEED two QB's to win in this league (what, one starting QB made it through the whole year last year?).

And Anderson may be a one year wonder. But it goes to show how good a QB can be given time and an running game.

Also I think Cle. will hold onto Quinn for next year because they will want to see if Anderson is more than a one year wonder. Remember when they thought they were set with two QB's a few years back.

toddcoat - a running back can win you a game. a corner can only really help you not lose it.

A RB needs an O-line IF he doesn't have a flying unicorn.

Toddcoat got it. Anderson is a free agent. BUT, the Browns should LEARN from the Brees/Rivers experiment, and re-sign Anderson. The difference btwn the Browns/Chargers circumstances was that Brees was no where near as exciting in SD as he has been in NO (plus the bad leg).

I agree with the suggestion that the Browns should trade for the back up QB spot. Quinn might make some team a fine QB one day, but he should get into whatever that system is ASAP to get onto the learning curve. If I were the Browns, I'd want to trade for a servicable backup QB, plus a replacement starter at a position of need (e.g., good solid player approaching retirement), like Ted Washington (I THINK that is the name of their nose tackle).

So if Phil Savage calls one of you guys by mistake (b/c he would be meaning to call me), tell him Quinn plus a late round pikc (5th? 6th?) for Rosenfels and their starting nose guard. Oh, also tell him to call the Texans.

mtnskins...did you call in the mike and the maddog show yesturday? if it was you nice take.......don't want to come across as the resident portis hater cause i really like cp, just don't think he is all that special ....my guess is our running game wouldn't look a whole lot different if betts or some other back were get the carries....but can you imagine a defense with springs,smoooooot and bailey at the corners...no contest,I think thats a fair and totally unbiased opinion on that hypothetical....bailey is a dominat shutdown game changing player, clinton is solid back,but a level below elite.

"And Anderson may be a one year wonder. But it goes to show how good a QB can be given time and an running game."

Posted by: Zebraskins | December 20, 2007 11:31 AM

Anderson is legit, but you got the bit right about time. The Browns offensive line is the reason they are in the hunt (not Jamal Lewis).

can anyone tell me how you would have kept Champ here?

Ok, but if they hold on to Quinn and Anderson turns out to be more than a one year wonder, then you start to have a real dilemma. Every year you hold on to Quinn without playing him, he loses value. So if Anderson is the real deal, you've basically just wasted a 1st rounder on Quinn. And if you trade Anderson away at that point and Quinn doesn't pan out, then you just look like an idiot. So I think there's a serious argument both ways. I personally would go with the "safer" bet and keep Anderson (who you know already has a good repoire with the two young offensive stars; Edwards and Winslow), and trade Quinn while he still has value for you.

"... can anyone tell me how you would have kept Champ here? ..."

Posted by: alex35332 | December 20, 2007 11:38 AM

staples, crazy glue, compromising photographs, maybe more cowbell ...

I don't think Quinn's value is going to go down in a single year. I think if Anderson's contract is up next season then you decide then on who to make your starter.

Cowwbell?? Oh thats your solution to everything Christopher Walken.

can anyone tell me how you would have kept Champ here?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 20, 2007 11:38 AM

One of my main reasons for advocating the portis for bailey trade was that bailey was gone anyway, and getting portis was a great bonus. I was just advocating my opinion that in our current situation, even if I could swap portis for bailey, I wouldn't do it (for this season). To me, Portis will be more valuable down this stretch than Bailey would be.

Comp'd tab for life at Camelot?

oi, I don't want either team to win in the Utah Navy game.

This next song I wrote after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

psps, totally. The Browns should call the Quinn move what it was -- unnecessary. As a Clevelander, I know the Browns fans are loving Anderson. They loved Quinn for a little while after the draft (mostly b/c he was saying he used to love the Browns as a kid), even for a while after he got whiny. The jibba jabba up here about Eagles & Giants fans being fairweather fans does not apply to Browns fans. Browns fans love their Browns, win or lose, and they really love underdogs who step up. They are loving them some Derek Anderson about now. The counter to that is that they distrust the famed and fabled, esp. before its earned. They got burned on Kellen Jr. (and PISSED after missing the SECOND season with the motorcycle (ATV?) accident), but are with him now that he's performing. Btwn Anderson, Edwards, Kellen Jr., and Jurevicious (sp?), plus the kicker (Dawson?) and league leading KR (better than Hester) Josh Cribbs, Browns fans are grateful and happy for their MANY YEARS of devotion with no success.

No one would shed a tear if the Brown's FO realized the return on the investment in Quinn (who was a value where he got picked late in the round as it was), and turned it into a roster building exercise.

clinton is solid back,but a level below elite.

I won't disagree that CP is a step below the elite level when viewed strictly from the perspective of running the ball, but that's not the only responsibility that a running back has. I would rather have a dependable, workhorse back like Portis who will flat lay out a defender on a block, than a guy who's just a flashy runner.

In other words, I'd rather have a guy who's just very good across the board, rather than great in one area but average in another.

Anderson is RFA after THIS season. Would seem like a BETTER idea to lock him up and avoid the QB "controvery" by dealing Quinn. The more I think about Quinn for Rosenfels, the more it makes sense (if I do say so myself ... which I did). As it is, the Texans have a QB controversy coming up b/c Schaub didn't live up to (overinflated) expectations and is getting paid more than Rosenfels, who exceeded expectations. Swap those #2 QBs and the controversy on each team is delayed a year, the new #2 develops in the new system, and if either #1 performs worse than expected in year 2, then let the controversy begin, no crying.

This is all moot guys, the trade got made and everyone (well, almost everyone) moved on.

Miami are at least $20M under next year's cap and will probably be way more after season's end (about 6 weeks ago really). If they thought Anderson was worth it, they'd get him. The one interesting thing for me about Parcell's with the Dolphins is could he find us another Romo?

CleoLemon will never be more than a career backup, you really don't want him to be starting. Beck may or may not have what it takes, but irregardless (I know that's not really a word) he needs more time to learn the game. So, we need a QB to keep us going while we create the QB of the future. Maybe the Tuna can help us with that.

I also like Portis as a blocking back, not just because he hits them hard, but he seems to love it. On his show players club, he and El were arguing about who has pancaked more defenders this season, they ended up making a bet to who will have the most by the end of the year.

Portis is also an okay option as a receiver. Though so is Betts in that regard.

thank you freakzilla. he's not the home run hitter anymore, and nowhere near as shifty as westbrook or tomlinson, but he does so much more for this team than most realize. there's just something about watching the smallest guy on the field (almost) absolutely lay out guys twice his size.

Thats because Mike and Mike are Dallas guys.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 20, 2007 11:30 AM

No, only Mike is.

OK, I'm about 12 hours late here (family, sleep, such as).

fake guys, who became real guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Day_and_the_Knights

"... irregardless (I know that's not really a word)..."

So does Homer, which is why he puts an accent on the first syllable in "unregardless."

DL you are my favorite dude of all time. NO ONE inthe world is more fair weather than a Philly fan. Any sporting event you go to, when that team gets blown out, they start an eagles chant. now that the eagles are bad they go with whatever team has one good moment in the city, It's pathetic. There is NOTHING better than listening to WIP after a loss. After a loss everyone sucks, this team has no talent, they are going no where. After a win they are the best team in the NFC, no one can stop them, the D is amazing.

When the Philies lost int he playoffs this year you no longer saw the phillies hats. When the Iggles proved they suck you no longer saw any Iggles hats. The hat is whatever flavor of the week the city has going. After they beat Dallas by 4 points when Dallas played the worst they could of and the Eagles played the best they could have, now all you see is eagles hats. It makes me want to vomit. After the skins lost by 500 to the pats i rocked my skins hat harder than ever just so i would never be one of those people.

He's a great blocking back. And I think a fair bit of the blame for his lackluster numbers this year can be put on the JJ injury. Am I the only one who thinks this is an 11 win team had Jansen not gone out?

Isn't Greenberg from Connecticut?

JJ and Randy T. Portis would be a certain pro bowler if they were playing this year.

Did someone mention pancakes?

A healthy O line would probably have netted us an extra 2-3 wins when we had leads at the half.

its the pancake breakfast. we do it every month.

A big question is whether this team can maintain the level of play from the past two weeks. The passion, mostly. Or will there be a letdown. I sure hope they can keep it going. Would LOVE to see them go up there and punch those uppity Vikings in the mouth. Every swingin' soul, including the ones who were very recently swingin' on the unemployment line.

But we all know it sometimes takes a little extra something to get the team riled up.
So, will J-Reid or this Tenorio fellow step up and put a bee in Joe's bonnet at the Friday presser?

HAIL.

Of the O-line, dating back to when Dockery was here, I always thought that Jansen was the weakest link. I don't deny that they guy has a huge heart and is "core" Skins (the longest tenure on the roster after the Red Snapper, right? more than Albright?), but he has had some consistency issues that were highlighted by Wade's breakout game in New Orleans.

Turns out, the weakest link has since been pinpointed further to be the connective tissue in Jansen's ankle.

Skins should do a pancake breakfast, after each game. You get one in the game get one for breakfast.

JJ and Randy T. Portis would be a certain pro bowler if they were playing this year.

Posted by: psps23 | December 20, 2007 12:07 PM

It seems obvious to me. Which is why I don't get the anti-CP sentiments. With the JJ/RT kingpin back in the offense next year, they're going to be nasty. ANd I understand you have to stop making excuses at some point, but you have to admit, the Gibbs luck has been pretty poor. He's due for a break (read: no more *bad* breaks).

they should do sack lunches too. mmmnnnmmmnmmnn.

"... So, will J-Reid or this Tenorio fellow step up and put a bee in Joe's bonnet at the Friday presser? ..."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2007 12:11 PM

Yes, Cindy or someone needs to draft up the question for a direct feed at the presser, e.g., "Coach, were you aware that you have NEVER lost in Minnesota? Do you feel extra pressure to win because of that?"

[I think something similar evoked the soul swinging presser before the Lions game.] Looks like Jasno tried this week, but might have fired prematurely.

Nasty is hyperbole for better.

I'm jonsing a scallop burrito from Sweet Heat in San Francisco.

I am with dcsween on this one. I don't see much of a difference between Janson and Wade. Losing Randy Thomas was huge though. He's one of the best in the league.

That said, no one without a star on their helmet is a guaranteed pro-bowler as long as fans can vote.

Sad but true.

Bacon.

http://food.aol.com/best-to-put-bacon-on?ncid=aoltop00020000000435

The difference between Janson and Wade is Janson is good.

Last year he blew people up off the line. Wade may be a SLIGHTLY better pass protector but in the run game it's not close. Wade looks like he is wearing roller skates.

I'll take Jansen blocking for Portis and Betts 10 times out of 10 out of those two. He's fierce. (thanks to LD for that one.)

I'm on a bacon sabbatical. Things had really gotten out of hand.

i'd love to see heyer step up and replace jansen one day.

i remember how inept he was in the preseason. couldn't hit his bum with both hands. seems like he's been really getting better. from miserable to serviceable. i think the next step in that chain would be "pretty ok."

sadly, i think jansen's best days are past. seems like the hogs back in the day played FOREVER. until they were all like 38 or 39, still drinking beer, wearing camo, and flattening guys.

also, i know jasno mentioned it in a post earlier in the week, but what are the chances we see some #79 jerseys hit the shelves?

HAIL!

I wonder if Lorenzo Alexander can play safety?

I think he was a saftey for his pop warner team. I bet he can do it.

No one from Tampa is having trouble posting...the count is 137,090 and I'm a little miffed that you've all missed the greatest Otis of them all -- Mr. Sistrunk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Sistrunk

Speaking of Lorenzo:

"Alexander made his initial claim to fame for the Redskins in a preseason game against Tennessee. He made a tackle, which is not unusual, except that Alexander made the tackle after his helmet was knocked off.

It's coming back to you now, isn't it? Go ahead, say it. "Oh, that guy.""

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/search.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2007-12-20-0093.html

Special teams, offensive line, and defensive line are all nice, but if Alexander really wants to become a "complete" football player, he would change his first name to Todd.

the greatest Otis of them all -- Mr. Sistrunk

Hey, he's at Ft. Lewis now. I drive past there every day going to and from work. I'll tell him hi for you, Cindy.

we are not an 11 or so win team because we simply don't make enough plays offensively and (this year at least) our young franchise qb was a turnover machine....we simply didn't have enough offensive firepower to overcome that....million other factors clock management, some of the gameday decisions etc....but our play makers didn't make enough to overcome our own mistakes....its an offensive league dominated by the few guys that make big plays on a consistent basis...you only need a couple , and the ones we have mostly come up short durring thier time here....if we make the playoffs this season it will be because 1. the qb protects the ball and gets it to his playmakers and 2 his playmakers moss, Portis and cooley make clutch big game changing plays....The defenase has been and will be fine....mark it down.

What about the almost-legendary Otis Gospodnetic the "Father of Social Bookmarking"?

Social Bookmarkers need love too you know.

Some people.

"Hey, he's at Ft. Lewis now."

My alma mater. Go Skyhawks!

snake plisken

Parcells is not going to play out the season at ESPN. The list is now Saban, Petrino, and Tuna.

I agree, Oldschool, except that I'd put a little more emphasis on 2nd-half play calling in most of our losses.

But I have a lot of confidence in Todd's ability to put the ball where it needs to be over the next two weeks, which will help our playmakers to make plays. As for the defense, agreed, I'm not worried. I'll admit being a little frustrated in the heat of the moment sometimes at the bend-don't-break scheme of our D, but when they pretty consistently deny big plays and hold other teams to FGs, it takes away any bad taste.

In a world of highlight clips, it's easy to forget that winning (and losing) is very much incremental, and that doing a lot of little things right typically results in wins.

Nope, its not oats you smell, its a beep beep.

Okay, what the heck does the phrase "league source" mean anyhow? I've wanted to know the answer to that one for a while. Is a ball boy a league source? CP entourage members? Seems like an overly broad, pretty meaningless, throwaway phrase. What am I missing?