first?

last

makes sense and fits in well with the redskins need to comply with the rooney while balancing the desire to maintain some continuity. . .

works well for both meeks and caldwell as both want to be perceived at having other options and I guess neither would likely want to interview solely to meet the rooney reqmnt. . .

this seems to be working out as best as it could for the redskins, so far . . .

Interviewing almost done... GG will be the new Head Coach by weeks end.

Let's get Meeks, Caldwell interviewed quickly and then award the job to Gregg Williams. I am curious to know what alterations Williams would want to make to the offensive staff.

BTW, landed in SD as that game wound down yesterday and people here are, rightly so, going nuts for their chargers. . .

guess we'll be piling on the danny big time, if norv pulls off the upset of all upsets, huh ?!?

after all the guy used to coach in DC . . .

wierd/interesting to reflect on what could have been if it does happen. . .

Isn't Scwartz the coordinator for Tennessee? If so, they can't bring him in as coordinator under Williams because it's a lateral move and he's under contract.

Posted by: LiberalMike | January 14, 2008 11:10 AM

What if they gave him the title of Assistant Head Coach - Defense?

Thanks, washingtonpost.com Sports Editor!

skinsfan, why would Danny get piled on? What did Norv do when he was here that gave any indication that he is a good coach? Not to mention he took over a 14-2 team from last year, and coached them to what, 9-7 this year?

Sorry, one playoff victory does not a good coach make.

From last post:

Nate Dog, first, and no one seems to want to answer this but, where in the hell is Warren G? 2nd, you asked earlier what someone had against the Chargers. Here's what I have against them:
Norv.

I don't want a team to be rewarded for completely screwing the pooch. They're giant clusterhump of firing marty/panic hire of a pushover coach who won't talk back to an arrogant GM was absurd.

They deserved a 4-12 season like we had to endure under norv 'you can't fault the effort' turner. Screw that guy in the ear with an iron stick and a running start.

I hate it when teams make terrible decisions and still do well (like the giants por ejemplo). We make terrible decisions...and aside from 5 games in aught 5 and 4 games in aught 7, we do terribly.

I only have one horse in the race. Let's go Packers. Perfect ending would be for the Pats to lose to underdog Fav-ruh.

As a side note, did anyone else find themselves pumping their respective fist when they showed that evil SOB Jerry Jones with the pouty face on the sidelines? I know I did. Soooooorrrrry 'bout that bruh! How does that 12th year without a playoff W taste? Oh, it's bitter? Yeah, little tart? Doesn't really go down smooth does it bruh?

Love it.

AMTTS
aka The GM Quandry

what are you guys even talking about? what has williams done to deserve the head coaching job? coach a winning team? nope. won a superbowl? nope. theres only one man out there for this job, and i believe he will get it.

BILL COWHER! HAIL!

Get him and we will be superbowl bound next season!!!

Hail!

It's interesting isn't it, IF Grilliams was to become our Head Coach, what would his drafting philosophy be? Being a Defensive minded coach, would that be a priority, or would he have faith in what has has, and target the other side of the ball.

I've had a look at a few Mock Drafts, and most have us looking at DE Calais Campbell, and WR Limas Sweed, one even had us getting Campbell in the 1st Round, and Sweed in the 2nd.

Kost, if we ended up with those two, I'd be a happy camper. I'm not going to get my hopes up, however. Sweed will probably be gone in the first round.

mrhanki9 - a little captain obvious here, but none of these coaches (gibbs, parcells, cowher, walsh, knoll, etc.) were super bowl coaches until they won their first super bowl. meaning there's always a first time for everybody. a little history, no coach has ever won a super bowl with two different teams. ever. williams has consistently been one of the best defensive minds in the nfl for years and years. he's the real deal, and as long as danny can hire him without the urge to fire him at the first sign of failure, this team will be legit.

Norv has been gone a while now and surely he has picked up experience along the way. When he was here he wasn't very good.

The jury is still out in charger-town. Easy to pick up a team that someone else built their first year off of a winning season and win again. Ask Barry Switzer (sp?).

greg:

agreed, just looking ahead and wondering what we'll be saying if norv pull off this upset. . .

wouldn't change his record here in DC, but remember, he did get into the playoffs before the danny started playing monopoly with the franchise. . .

if, and it is a HUGE if, SD upsets NE, you got to ask yourself the question, ya know?

From the last thread:

I hear ya, Roo-yay.

I was called out above for being a crybaby, so I'll pay it forward and ask you not to wallow in those sour grapes about Norval's poopy tenure in DC.

Also, they fall under the heading of the lesser evil. This weekend, anyway.

-Nate in the PDX

This is just the latest development for which we Redskins fans can thank Joe Gibbs. He came out of retirement to put this franchise back on track, and this coaching search is proof that to me that he largely succeeded. This search would never have been conducted in such a dignified and professional manner 4 years ago. My guess is that Williams (who I am predicting also has learned the right way to be a head coach from Gibbs) is the choice, and the team builds on this year with a minimum of disruption.

mrhanki9 I hope you are kidding. If not you're an idiot. Cowher uses the 3-4 defense which the Skins don't have the personnel for. That turnover would take a couple of years.

Seriously, did this Roweq character not even consider the possibility that I myself am a minority (an Hispanic and a Jew to boot)? I have been fighting for colorblind equal opportunity in this country for over a decade, and to accuse me of racism simply because you don't agree with my stance on the Rooney Rule is beyond the pale.

Posted by: barno | January 14, 2008 01:17 PM

I have a feeling that I'm firmly on Barno's "ITA" list now, but I'll make one last attempt to engage him.

Barno, you're either being naive or disingenuous to suggest that being a minority means that you can't be a racist.

Where I grew up I had the misfortune to meet two 'true' racists (think America History X and you'll understand what I mean by 'true').

The first was a white skinhead with his face totally covered in tattoos who did the world a favour by stepping off a 7th floor balcony while out of his head on glue. The second skinhead ended up with life imprisonment for kicking an Asian guy to death "for fun". He also happened to be Afro-Caribbean (UK analog of African American).

Racism knows no cultural or ethnic boundaries, it's a state of mind.

To suggest that the Rooney Rule equates to Affirmative Action is just plain wrong; the Rooney Rule does not insist that 'minorities' are given head coaching jobs according to some quota system, merely that they are considered for the vacancy at all. The best candidate (in the mind of the owner) will ALWAYS win the job, regardless of colour. It just so happens that since this issue was raised the proportion of minority head coaches has steadily been on the rise. Causation or correlation? You decide? Either way, how is taht a bad thing?

Your attempt to join the Rooney Rule to Affirmative Action is both flawed and irrelevant.

Hey drouhier,

"Screw that guy in the ear with an iron stick and a running start."

Isn't that just a little vitriolic?

It's only a game.

As a side note, did anyone else find themselves pumping their respective fist when they showed that evil SOB Jerry Jones with the pouty face on the sidelines?

AMTTS
aka The GM Quandry

Posted by: drouhier | January 14, 2008 04:16 PM

that was the best shot of the game, classic, absolutely classic. . .

skinsfan, if Norv pulls off this upset, I'll say that he's still not a good coach. I'd say that he took over a team that went 14-2 the year prior, and has one of the best RB's in the league, so hard how could it be.

mrhank.net, I agree and I disagree. I agree that Grilliams stinks as a head coach. There was a reason they couldn't wait to get rid of him in Buffalo. I've maintained for the last couple years that his constant abrasive nature wears out its welcome everywhere.

His arrogant 'it's the system' approach makes guys not want to play for him. You can try and sell me that he's 'learned' under Joe Gibbs. I'm not buying it. Classic case of a dude that should always be a tight assistant coach.

Here's what you do when you take on Grilliams:

You say goodbye to Al Saunders. No one is really talking about this, but you can mark it down. Some might want this, but i don't. I'm not in love with Al but it's what JC (not in a basket) knows. He learns offensive systems like I learn foreign languages: slowly and with lots of stuttering.

When Al goes, JC has to go back to square 1 and learn a new system thus stunting his growth. If you're wed to JC (which we seem to be), you need to consider his long term future. I have no interest in wasting a year while 'gets comfortable' with the new system. Making Grilliams the head guy has lots of consequences.

To your second point about Bill (na-ee-en-en-ajah) Cowher, like Sameer, he's 'naganna...nagannna...not gonna work here anyway'

He's no dummy (although he is on over-rated coach who makes the same face no matter what happens. He's the Rene Zelwigger of coaches). He knows he'd be walking into a gongshow if he took this job. Teams without general managers aren't teams that established coaches want to coach. He'll be an analyst for another year and walk into a better situation.

ArtMonkToTheSticks

"Thanks, washingtonpost.com Sports Editor!"

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 14, 2008 04:15 PM

I'm thinking this may be the fabled "Emilio" of whom we've heard tell. Also, remember when CynCyty used to sign posts as "Jason's editor"? Good times. Here here for registration and The definite article, TheCindy!

jaypem, you make a terrific point, noting Grilliams' perceived (by you and me) ability and willingness to learn.

I want to believe that the Grilliams who has kept meticulous files on every assistant coach in the league in little blue folders in a desk drawer has been taking copious notes from Coach Gibbs and figuring out how to do things differently. The dude was knocked down a peg after Buffalo, and I think on some level he's been regrouping ever since then.

And you can't outregroup Gregg Williams.

then you'd have a bad coach pulling off one of the biggest upsets ever. . .

I'm just sayin' . . .

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the Rooney Rule what got Mike Tomlin the job in Pittsburgh? When Cowher left, everyone assumed that either Whisenhunt, or Grimm would be promoted, but Tomlin was interviewed, and even though he had only been Defensive Coordinator for 1 season, the Steelers were so impressed with the way he interviewed, that he was hired.

bruce:

to paraphrase the words of the greatest:

'I don't know what vitriolic means; but if it's good, I'm that'

It's just my writing style man. Lots of superlatives and over-aggressive depictions. I don't really want a metal rod inserted into Norv's ear. I do want him to lose though.

Because I know what Gregg Williams plus Ralph Wilson can do (i.e., barely keep the team out of Toronto), I'm willing to find out what Gregg Williams and The Owner, i.e., OCD plus cash on the barrelhead, can do.

Caldwell as OC?

They say it's always the quiet ones you have to watch out for.

And if you've noticed, I haven't said anything all day.

Myself and AMTTS, we are way out of synch today. Disagreeing on Norval, disagreeing on Grilliams. So it goes.

Sure beats jawing about the Rooney Rule, though.

Barno, you're either being naive or disingenuous to suggest that being a minority means that you can't be a racist.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 14, 2008 04:29 PM

Never suggested that. So when you speak of someone being disingenuous, surely you are referring to yourself.

kost- Welcome back!

Nate- I found kost!

drouhier,

The trouble with your "style" is that the style takes precedent over the thoughts. As a consequence, less is thought of your thoughts.

*** Rooney alert ***

kost, if you've been reading carefully, that interview demeaned Mike Tomlin.

*** end Rooney alert ***

stevie, Ravin or Reche?

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the Rooney Rule what got Mike Tomlin the job in Pittsburgh? When Cowher left, everyone assumed that either Whisenhunt, or Grimm would be promoted, but Tomlin was interviewed, and even though he had only been Defensive Coordinator for 1 season, the Steelers were so impressed with the way he interviewed, that he was hired.

Posted by: kost52 | January 14, 2008 04:36 PM

So you are saying he wasn't interviewed because of his merits, he was simply interviewed because he fulfilled an interview quota. This is what you are saying, right?

barno, please stop it.

The Danny is going through all the right steps for several reasons. Even IF Williams is the foregone choice, The Danny doesn't want to tick off the Commisioner by violating the spirit or letter of the Rooney Rule. Danny is rising in the ranks of owners within the league and some day wants to host a Super Bowl, so getting Goodell p.o'd wouldn't help his standing with the Commisioner. Next, he MAY be trying to make the right decsion, not just the easy one. Finally , by interviewing some of the top coordinators , he and the eventual selecton (Williams) will have some insight on other guys out there to ebcome defensive or offensive coordinators. They'll need both since Suanders isn't likely to stay with Williams and some of the Gibbs Geritol may decide to leave with a nice buy out. So far The Danny is showing the patience he says he learned from Gibbs.

It's a tough day for us Nate but it's one day. You put it behind you and move on. We're all grown men up here (except for the bladies (blog ladies)) and we're all part of this thing.

So yeah, me and Nate had some words. That's for him and I. It ain't for you punks in the media to start printing nonsense. It's between him and me. We just trying to win games. He's a great teammate and he expressed his frustration to me and I expressed mine to him. We worked it out. That's it. End of story. Next question.

ArtMonkToTheSticks

Barno, you're either being naive or disingenuous to suggest that being a minority means that you can't be a racist.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 14, 2008 04:29 PM

Never suggested that. So when you speak of someone being disingenuous, surely you are referring to yourself.

Posted by: barno | January 14, 2008 04:39 PM

This is a "your mom goes to college" statement if I have ever seen one.

Welcome back, kost52, and happy new year, or whatever you call it down there!

I am not very strong with the maths, but I added up the time elapsed in your holiday story and it didn't come close to the amount of time you were AWOL from the blog. So I am still of the opinion that there might have been a scrape with the authorities, perhaps, or a run-in with a renegade motorcycle gang in the post-apocalyptic outback.

In any event, glad you're back, mate.

Can someone please tell me why you all are so sure Saunders will be fired? According to John Keim of The Examiner (and Warpath) players, coaches, and league sources say they are unaware of any rift between Williams and Saunders. One defensive player said "they sit next to each other in team meetings and they laugh with each other all the time. I can't see their personalities clashing."

sams3,

The king of "your mom goes to college" comments, calls someone else for making a similar comment.

Hilarious!

Seriously, did this Roweq character not even consider the possibility that I myself am a minority (an Hispanic and a Jew to boot)? I have been fighting for colorblind equal opportunity in this country for over a decade, and to accuse me of racism simply because you don't agree with my stance on the Rooney Rule is beyond the pale.

Posted by: barno | January 14, 2008 01:17 PM

Barno, unless I'm suffering from a total lack of English comprehension today (always possible) the above statement was your attempt to suggest that because you couldn't be racist. It specifically refers to the fact that you are a minority who has fought for equal opportunity, and the only example you give of that fight are to challenge Affirmative Action.

I'm not being disingenuous at all. You ARE.

A quick tip. "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?" is not a valid debating technique once you leave 2nd grade.

AMMTS, what are your thoughts about Nate's blogging on the Cabo San Lucas website?

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the Rooney Rule what got Mike Tomlin the job in Pittsburgh? When Cowher left, everyone assumed that either Whisenhunt, or Grimm would be promoted, but Tomlin was interviewed, and even though he had only been Defensive Coordinator for 1 season, the Steelers were so impressed with the way he interviewed, that he was hired.
Posted by: kost52 | January 14, 2008 04:36 PM

Rooney Rule may (or may not, who knows) have gotten him the itnerview-- but as you say clearly he got the job on merit.

Yes AMMTS, I was yelling at the TV when ol' pouty face had his pity party.

Sorry I havent been around, been playing mommy and daddy of late. My wife is seeing stars in her left eye and is slightly numb on the left side of her head and arm.

Just had the MRI, will hopefully get no more news in two days...

AMTTS, myself and I laughed out loud at that one. Thank you, thank you, sir, for shining that sunshine up here.

Nate- Was just thinking the same thing, re: maths and kost's story. He left out this part of his journey...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/13/wkayak113.xml

I'm not being disingenuous at all. You ARE.

A quick tip. "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?" is not a valid debating technique once you leave 2nd grade.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 14, 2008 04:45 PM

So are you saying you're still in 2nd grade? This would explain a lot of your comments on this blog...

"I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?" is not a valid debating technique ...

Posted by: Redcoat | January 14, 2008 04:45 PM

"Yes, yes, you told Brant. Brant told me. Someone peed on your rug. Where do I fit into this? Did I pee on your rug?"

Sorry if my posts are a bit late, I'm still catching up on this morning's posts!

I think Grilliams is the right choice, but what worries me, is that up here, we did a lot of complaining about Gibbs' conservativismness, from Wiki regarding Double G - "As the Bills' head coach, his team was known for highly conservative calls, especially on offense. He was the inspiration for Gregg Easterbrook's designation of "the maroon zone" by constantly punting in opponent territory."

There's a part of me that wishes Dallas won yesterday. Then we'd only be dealing with koolaide brrrp-fart-guzzle dude instead of 'he who commits incest'

" ... from Wiki regarding Double G - "As the Bills' head coach, his team was known for highly conservative calls, especially on offense. ..."

Posted by: kost52 | January 14, 2008 04:48 PM

I saw that too. I figure they covered that was hours Two through Four of the 12 hour interview today.

[In other news, while have everything that Gregg Easterbrook has to qualify me to opine on sports (including an @$$hole), isn't the idea behind punting to get the ball back into opponent territory?]

Good question Sween...

(wearing huge sunglasses and fighting back tears)

'That's...not fair...it ain't fair...that's my teammate...we lost as a team man...that's my quarterback...it ain't fair...for y'all to do that to him....it...'

(Shakes head in disbelief)

'it ain't fair to him...'

AMTTS

PS. Sween, greatest softball of all time. You are the Steve Nash of the blog.

Jason and fellow commentators, what do you think?

G Williams - Head Coach
Jim Schwartz - Asst Coach Defense
Jim Caldwell - QB Coach (assuming he doesn't get the Indy head coaching job, and Snyder offers him a lot of money)

I couldn't see bringing in Schwartz ahead of Williams...he was a protege' of Williams, think it makes more sense for him to bring him in as an Assistant, since they're of the same philosophy.

Jim Caldwell would be great for developing Jason Campbell into a Peyton Manning-type QB.

Jason and fellow commentators, what do you think?

G Williams - Head Coach
Jim Schwartz - Asst Coach Defense

Posted by: nsoules | January 14, 2008 04:53 PM

Even if we could get Schwartz as an assistant this seems like a bad idea. He's going to be a head coach, if not this year then next. We don't need a guy to breeze through here for a year like Marvin Lewis did on his way to Indy. We need a D coach for the next four years.

Or on his way to Cincy, on second thought.

I thought we had all agreed on Greg Blache as new D boss? No? I thought that issue was resolved months ago in the succession plan?

The Lewises stopped over in Indy on their way to Cincy, t_e. It was quite the road trip, I hear. Indy, Muncie, Quincy, Cincy.

I'm assuming that if Al Saunders and the Skins were to part company, the "Saunders style" offense is what it is ... intellectual property that is not owned by Saunders. Along the same lines of peeps who fell in love with Ryan Clark AFTER he left, I've had a hunch that Bill Musgrave (previous Skins QB coach ... now in Atlanta ... coaching, well, no one really) might have had chops to become a grown up O coordinator with a "Musgrave style" offense. That offense certainly seems like it COULD include Saunderian concepts.

NORV NORV NORV. I can't beleive their are Skins fans in here actually blaming Danny and saying what could have been with Norv...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Norv is doing NOTHING but calling plays for the team that Marty built...end of story...Do not think for a second we should have kept NORV PLEASE! LOL Thats just stupid

I predict it's going to be Jerry Gray as the new defensive coordinator.

Does anyone know, what is the Dallas equivalent of RI? I'd love to see what those guys might be talking about today.

Jasno (aka "The Beat Reporter") suggested that Mr. Blache was thinking about packing it in and calling it a career ... at least in the context of the "dog and pony show" of interviewing for head coaches (oddly, this seems like the one thing on which Barno and Jasno seem to agree). Anyway, maybe those plans would change if Grilliams gets the HC job. Me? I'm pro-Jerry Gray (if only so Steve Jackson gets the "secondary" job outright). I'm pro-Steve Jackson too.

Here's my solution to the Rooney Rule debacle; force barno to be interviewed for ANY available NFL HC position.

Not only will this ensure barno is finally directly persecuted by the rule he so desperately loathes, the 12+ hour interviews and travel required to attend them should severely curtail his ability to post about it on this blog

Adam

Hold up, I got caught up in my weak joke and missed something.

t_e, did you just confuse two head coaches of color? Oh no you dih-int! I'm working up a huge ball of righteous indignation over this! This will not stand! Consider yourself barnoed!

Adam, you got my vote.

Nate,

Who you talking about? Marvin Lewis or Lovie Lewis?

That stuff about GW's offense being conservative with Buffalo...well how would you call plays with Rob Johnson as your QB? ENOUGH SAID!

It was only a matter of time before Barno became a verb.

Your attempt to join the Rooney Rule to Affirmative Action is both flawed and irrelevant.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 14, 2008 04:29 PM

Buddy, race-based means race-based. No "if, ands, or buts" about it. The rule requires that team satisfy a racial quota, right?

It is exactly the same thing as racial preferences, aka affirmative action, because it takes race into account.

To come to your conclusions about this rule, you have to disregard a whole lot of facts.

You completely disregard the fact that there are disproportionately more black head coaches than there are blacks in this country, right?

You completely disregard the fact that to become an NFL player, you must be physically gifted, right?

You completely disregard the fact that on average black and Samoan athletes are disproportionately faster and stronger than white athletete, and thus the reason there are disproportionately more black and Samoans in pro football, right?

You completely disregard the fact that it takes different skills to become a coach than it does to become a pro athlete, right?

You completely disregard the fact that you do not need to be physically gifted to be a head coach, right?

You completely disregard the fact that you need to be intellectually gifted to become a head coach, and thus the racial make up of coaches more closely resembles actual society--where one race isn't any smarter than another--than the racial make up of players, right?

Why don't you stop completely disregarding this stuff? Maybe then you'll be taken a little more seriously in this discussion.

latent_racebaiter, your opinions are worthless and your arguments are all rhetorically faulty!

Revisionist History:
If only we had hired Marty first to build the team, then hired Norbert (Norv+Dilbert) to call the plays.

F Order of operations.

Barno,

Can you satisfy the Rooney rule by interviewing a guy in a wheel chair or a Native American?

Nate, 4-12 - The reason there are a few days missing from my holiday summary, is because I thought it pointless to mention the days I spent hungover in the tent. So that's what happened to those other 9 days.

Barno,

Do you believe that NFL teams should be required to interview males for cheerleader positions and females for every position?

Guys, stop fanning the flames and they will die out!!!

Barno,

Can you satisfy the Rooney rule by interviewing a guy in a wheel chair or a Native American?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 14, 2008 05:14 PM

Exactly. What is a minority? Both parents must be minority? One parent? One grandparent?

Like I said, it's a messy business when institutions open up this can of worms.

So we agree we all know nothing.

On the Rooney Rule - It did not get Tomlin hired, Tomlin got Tomlin hired, BUT the Rooney rule made sure that he was in the room to convince them to give him the job. AND it made sure he was in the room in previous years with previous teams to better become part of the flow of coaches getting interviewed for jobs. Rooney rule gets people culturally (and by that I mean Football culture) disinclined to consider minorities to consider them.

On GG and the coaching search - I can't fault DAN for anything he has done in the coaching search so far. If you annoint GG then you have a Detroit debacle where no one will interview with you. If you don't annoint him them you are unhappy with him and only want a big name coach. The DAN can't win on this one, so he is just going about doing his job, which, for an owner, is picking the next Team President and Coach.

On the 700 Page Playbook, if he goes he goes, if he stays he stays. I can see GG saying, yeah I want him and Buges and Ernest, but not so much the rest of the Geritol Generation, and I am okay with that. I think everyone, including JC, saw what the offense can look like, and it is my gut that seeing it work like that, JC will step it up another notch next year.

On the GM - No, we aren't getting one and that sucks. We would be better off if we did. Assuming GG has Gibbs-Lite power on the draft, I think we have to hope that he learned from Gibbs. Gibbs, an offensive coach who would be judged on his offenses, spent 3 out of 4 first rounders on defense, and his fourth pick on a player he knew could not help him the following year. It is true Gibbs traded high picks for offensive players - and it never worked out, and hopefully GG has learned from that as well.

So we sit back and hope that GG has learned, as other coaches have (most notably the Cheater in Foxboro) from one coaching gig to the next.

Barno,

Do you believe that NFL teams should be required to interview males for cheerleader positions and females for every position?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 14, 2008 05:17 PM

Absolutely not. The Constitution allows gender to be taken into consideration when it is a requirement of the job.

Miss Teen Barno: "I personally believe that U.S. Black and Samoan Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some-uh people out there in our NFL that don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our, ah, minorities, like such as Rooney Rule, and the Logic and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our racism over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., er, should help The Beat Reporter and should help the Rooney [timer bell] and the Heavy Metal Parking Lot countries so we will be able to build up our future [mike retracted momentarily by emcee] for our-" [mercifully cut off by emcee]

(Nate's transcription, like such as)

Well put Levinems, on all counts.

I'm really curious about the soap opera tea-leaves-reading that will come out of which assistants depart when GG/Flapjacks/Man Boobs takes over. Oh, the palace intrigue!

BTW, down here at MacWorld today and tomorrow. Can't wait to buy whatever it is Steve Jobs is selling tomorrow :-)

What about Olivadotti for a promotion? I have a feeling that Grilliams would still have strong control over the Defense, so I like the idea of giving a young assistant a go, he seems to have done a good job with the linebackers, who knows, he could end up being the next Tomlin, or McDaniels.

Diddy, if you see the "I'm a Mac" guy, tell him I thought he was good in Die Hard 4, and that Jeepers Creepers is one of my all-time favorite horror movies.

And that if he turns in a third enjoyable film performance, I will bother to learn his name.

I don't think Blatche is ready to call it quits....he simply does not want the headache a head coaching position will entail.

Grilliams' Draft History as Bills Head Coach -

2001

Rnd 1 - Nate Clements CB*
Rnd 2 - Aaron Schobel DE*
Rnd 2 - Travis Henry RB*
Rnd 3 - Ron Edwards DT
Rnd 3 (Comp) - Jonas Jennings OT
Rnd 4 - Brandon Spoon LB
Rnd 5 - Marques Sullivan OL
Rnd 6 - Tony Driver FS
Rnd 6 (Comp) - Dan O'Leary TE
Rnd 6 (Comp) - Jimmy R Williams CB
Rnd 7 - Reggie Germany WR
Rnd 7 (Comp) - Tyrone Robertson DT

2002

Rnd 1 - Mike Williams OT
Rnd 2 - Josh Reed WR
Rnd 2 - Ryan Denney DE
Rnd 3 (Comp) - Coy Wire SS
Rnd 5 - Justin Bannon DT
Rnd 6 - Kevin Thomas CB
Rnd 7 - Mike Pucillo C
Rnd 7 (Comp) - Rodney Wright WR
Rnd 7 (Comp) - Jarret Ferguson - RB
Rnd 7 (Comp) - Domonique Stevenson LB

2003

Rnd 1 - Willis McGahee RB
Rnd 2 - Chris Kelsay DE
Rnd 3 - Angelo Crowell LB
Rnd 4 - Terrence McGee CB*
Rnd 4 - Sam Aiken WR
Rnd 5 - Ben Sobiewski OL
Rnd 6 - Luavale Sape DT
Rnd 7 - Mario Haggan LB

* - Player has been to Pro-Bowl

I have no idea who the Mac guy is either. But I did meet PC (John Hodgman) in a bar in NYC once. Very nice guy.

Grilliams drafted Poochie in 2002? That's all I need to know. Double G for head coach!

Seems to have done alright with his picks. Not much late round success, Mike Williams was a bit of a bust, but he seems to know his defensive players.

Plan for the offseason:

Get a real GM

-or-

Head Coach: Williams
D-coordinator: Olvidati
Don't bring back: Burns and Beraux

Cut: Lloyd, Jansen, Kendall, Springs, Suisham, Caldwell, McCardell, Brunell

Re-sign: Cartwright, Collins

Draft: DE, MLB, Safety, TE, C, DT

FA:
Bryant Johnson (Big, Posession WR)
Max Starks (Young OT)
Jordan Gross (Young OG)
Marcus Trufant (Young CB)
Josh Brown (Experienced K)

Feel free to pick apart

Diddy, if you see the "I'm a Mac" guy, tell him I thought he was good in Die Hard 4, and that Jeepers Creepers is one of my all-time favorite horror movies.

And that if he turns in a third enjoyable film performance, I will bother to learn his name.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 14, 2008 05:38 PM

isn't that guy dating the broad from ET?

4-12, Wikipedia says his name is pronounced Poo-sill-oh. If you correct your nickname accordingly, well, uh...

Maps!

I am glad to see everyone is taking up my mantle and carrying on with the non-ITA'ing of Barno.

Its very easy to qualify this argument, you may not like the rule barno, because it may smack of forced hiring practices, but there is no quota on minorities being hired, just interviewed. Thus the difference between that and Affirmative action.

And to end all arguments, it is MUCH better than the alternative, any way you look at it. i.e. Qutoas for hiring not interviewing or just the outright ability for a team to say they dont want minorities, which if you look at skins history, will tell you we were the biggest purpetrator of that in sports history.

Diddy, if you see the "I'm a Mac" guy, tell him I thought he was good in Die Hard 4, and that Jeepers Creepers is one of my all-time favorite horror movies.

And that if he turns in a third enjoyable film performance, I will bother to learn his name.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 14, 2008 05:38 PM

That's Justin Long. He always plays smug, self-satisfied roles.

Diddy you don't know the Mac guy? He is a funny actor:

- Dodgeball
- The Break-up
-lead in Accepted
- Die Hard 4

and other stuff...

He just had a hilarious cameo as George Harrison in "Walk Hard"...a movie (as a music and comedy nerd) I LOVED. And in which Jenna Fischer (Pam in the Office) was h-o-t!

And I am OK with smug and self satisfied, as evidenced by my blog posts.....

Anyone catch the new Terminator show last night? Thoughts?

"Suisham, Caldwell, McCardell, Brunell" - none currently under contract for next season...

and yes Barno he is dating the "broad" from E.T. AKA as Drew Barrymore...

No one doubts your non-PC bona-fides my man....keep on keepin on, the world needs more of you....!

Is Alvin a smug, self-satisfied Chipmunk?

Mac users are satisfied because we're not spending time waiting for Windows to boot up.

The new Terminator show is on my TiVo. May watch over Slingbox later tonight...the reviews convinced me to record it.

So I always thought Williams was half hispanic for some reason maybe its just his color complexion. Speaking of which how come there are no hispanic Head Coaches?

Anyone catch the new Terminator show last night? Thoughts?

"Suisham, Caldwell, McCardell, Brunell" - none currently under contract for next season...

Posted by: 4-12 | January 14, 2008 06:18 PM

Well, I thought it was cool enough to be worth my time. I'll watch the 2nd half tonight. I'm not quite sure how many seasons they can get out of its premise, though.

It was better than that Bionic Woman farce of a show. Which isn't really saying much. I think another episode is on tonight.
I'm just jonesin' for Lost in a couple weeks.

Soldat Anglais,

Je sais que vous avez essayé, mais il ne vaut pas l'effort. Go Fins.

Mac users are satisfied because we're not spending time waiting for Windows to boot up.

The new Terminator show is on my TiVo. May watch over Slingbox later tonight...the reviews convinced me to record it.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 14, 2008 06:21 PM

I can't stand those "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials. I don't want to be sold a freaking lifestyle, I just want a damned computer. The computer I use is NOT an appendage of my personality.

Everytime I see Justin Long now, thanks to those ads, I just want to yell "SHUUT THE F#&% UP!!"

XXX just reported that the Skins will be interviewing the Colts coaches.

Z,
Although, his/her behavior can be very troll-like, I agree, we shouldn't ITA Barno, he's one of our own.

kost52 you are almost correct. All the reports was the job was going to be given to Grimm. But Mike Tomlin came in and drop the hammer.

Sound like we got a Windows user there. ;-)

He's just posting while his other computer boots up. Hey, some people like completely functional beige boxes with no personality.

I've been a PC user my whole life, and a Windows guy through and through (in more ways than one). But when I got my 13" MacBook, I saw the light. It Just Works, and it's just gorgeous, to boot.

I can't see myself going back to a PC so long as Apple keeps making great stuff.

Can't wait for tomorrow :-)

Diddy- What would Bill say if he knew you were now a Mac guy?

Who I think the Skins should take with their picks -

Rnd 1 - DE Calais Campbell, Miami
6'8" 280lbs

- Big body to replace Daniels.

Rnd 2 - WR Marcus Monk, Arkansas
6'5" 214lbs

- We need a tall receiver, and what could be better than one named Monk

Rnd 3 - WR Todd Blythe, Iowa State
6'5" 210lbs

- We need a tall receiver, and what can be better than one named Todd.

Rnd 5 - RB Cory Boyd, South Carolina
6'1" 200lbs

- I just think he'd look great on the roster with Cody Body, don't you Jasno?

Rnd 6 - LB Robert Killebrew, Texas
6'1" 225lbs

- For some reason his name appeals to me.

Rnd 7 - DE Dexter Manley II, West Texas A&M
6'2" 282lbs

- Would love to see that name on a Redskins Jersey again!

Undrafted FA -

WR Johnny Walker, Oklahoma
5'11" 204lbs

- Again, for some reason his name appeals to me!

I always had an iconoclastic reputation in the company anyway. I have been using a Mac ever since Vista came out. Apple makes great stuff that works. Their competitors can't say the same thing. It's that simple.

Sound like we got a Windows user there. ;-)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 14, 2008 06:41 PM

Yeah, I'm a windows user. All I've learned from the I'm a Mac commercials is that I'm not trendy enough to buy a Mac.

I couldn't care less what computer I use, as long as it works. My Dell w/ WinXP SP2 works just fine, thank you very much.

Can you imagine going through college with the name Johnny Walker? I don't think I would ever have seen sobriety.

Gotcha. Safe to assume he is just "Bill" as opposed to "Mr." Gates?

Kost for GM!

This should settle the Mac/PC debate (okay maybe not)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mCCYLC-4xA

Off for home and diaper duty.

No BMGO from there...dead computer; hooked up the wife's laptop, but it doesn't let me post anything. :(

Always just Bill.

But when I got my 13" MacBook, I saw the light. It Just Works, and it's just gorgeous, to boot.

I can't see myself going back to a PC so long as Apple keeps making great stuff.

Can't wait for tomorrow :-)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 14, 2008 06:46 PM

To me, the problem is 1. Macs cost 10% more, on average, and exhibit 15% slower performance, and 2. yeah, it Just Works, but with what?? Rather than run a windows emulator, might as well just run the real thing.

Then again, I don't really get frustrated by Windows because I'm much more computer literate than most, and I like the versatility.

But, hey, Mac users love their Macs, and they're welcome to it. Just not my thing.

The Cowboys are arrogant even in defeat....the Pillsbury Dough Boy (aka Wade Phillips) said "the better team lost....we outplayed them....but we lost."

Kost, why are you talking about replacing Daniels? He played well...plans to play for several more years....is a locker room leader....has a very manageable salary...and Williams loves him.

I don't know what will ignite more of a flaming thread: a discussion about race and the Rooney Rule, or a discussion of Macs vs. PCs.

Can someone please tell me why you all are so sure Saunders will be fired? According to John Keim of The Examiner (and Warpath) players, coaches, and league sources say they are unaware of any rift between Williams and Saunders. One defensive player said "they sit next to each other in team meetings and they laugh with each other all the time. I can't see their personalities clashing."

Posted by: Lisa | January 14, 2008 04:44 PM

Been wondering the same thing Lisa

Cut: Lloyd, Jansen, Kendall, Springs, Suisham, Caldwell, McCardell, Brunell

Re-sign: Cartwright, Collins

Draft: DE, MLB, Safety, TE, C, DT

FA:
Bryant Johnson (Big, Posession WR)
Max Starks (Young OT)
Jordan Gross (Young OG)
Marcus Trufant (Young CB)
Josh Brown (Experienced K)

Feel free to pick apart

Posted by: jgarrisn | January 14, 2008 06:11 PM

And you must live with the Danny in "DreamLand".

Why does everybody want Starks, he was part of an o-line that SUCKS.

Don't need to do so much, a little tweaking, restructuring, and a solid draft.

That's all.

Lisa, it wasn't a serious mock draft and I couldn't find any non-serious picks rated high enough to go in the 1st round.

That being said, at this early stage I'm for drafting Calais Campbell with our first pick. Not necessarily as a reflection of Daniels' performance, more a reflection of his age. Didn't mean I'd cut Daniels.

I don't know what will ignite more of a flaming thread: a discussion about race and the Rooney Rule, or a discussion of Macs vs. PCs.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 14, 2008 07:07 PM

I think Mac vs PC would be far more entertaining, though I fear a blending of the two debates and a bunch of heated posts arguing whether or not interviewing Mac user for an NFL HC position constitutes Rooney Rule compliance.

Adam

I always had an iconoclastic reputation in the company anyway. I have been using a Mac ever since Vista came out. Apple makes great stuff that works. Their competitors can't say the same thing. It's that simple.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 14, 2008 06:51 PM
I had been told many years ago that Macs were better, more stable, and they "just work". Then I spent 15 years working for a printing company, we had no choice but employ both Macs and PCs, and you know what? They both suck just the same. Everyone needs to set up their computer to do the job they need done, if it works as a Mac,fine, if it works as PC, fine, but Macs are NO better than the PCs I built for my users to this day.

As a side note, did anyone else find themselves pumping their respective fist when they showed that evil SOB Jerry Jones with the pouty face on the sidelines?..
---

Better yet, did you see TO crying in his press conference? That was classic. Made my day!

own a pc, but have a mac book for work....so maybe i have a good perspective....well i bring my mac book home almost every night b/c my pc sucks....i hate it, f vista, f windows...complete joke...

basically:

macs rule
pcs drool

its like a wet dream v nightmare....

the cost differential is a legit issue however.

CL - Are you saying that after you use your Mac, there's a clean up involved??

Jerry Jones with the s@itfaced look...great
T.O. crying...priceless

Oh...Barno, it's time to put the Rooney Rule issue to bed. I'm not saying that race can't be discussed in sports, but damn dude...go on the lecture circuit or something.

um kosty....no comment...

Well, just so we know where we all stand on the relevant debates -- I am pro-Rooney Rule and pro-PC. Shoot -- I'm a Catholic and a McCain supporter too, if that makes anything more interesting.

I am confused by the below. From other sources I understood Brunell was under contract until 2010 (7 yr deal).

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Contracts%20Chart.htm

Not the biggest cap hit to cut but still some impact I think.

Anyone catch the new Terminator show last night? Thoughts?

"Suisham, Caldwell, McCardell, Brunell" - none currently under contract for next season...

Posted by: 4-12 | January 14, 2008 06:18 PM

ok this is fun:

pro rooney rule, pro mac, i worship the Norse Panthenon and am writing in matt taibi for prez...

also pro gay marriage, anti straight marriage. think dogs and cats are equals and i prefer karen to pam for jim on the office, but am pro jenna fischer on real life....

Pro Rooney Rule, Pro Mac, Pro Obama, Pro Gay Marriage, Anti Straight Marriage, Anti Cat, Pro Karen, Anti Bionic Woman, Pro Journeyman, Pro Jessica Alba pre-pregnancy, Anti Jessica Alba post-pregnancy.

Neutral on Barno (jury's out on whether he's really a jerk, or just pulling everyone's chains for a good laugh). Definitely Pro Boofer (where is that lil' guy???).

Oh, and so Pro that guy who wants to sue us for slander.

BTW, Jenna Fischer was awesome in "Charlie Wilson's War". And I am definitely, definitely, definitely Pro that movie (and pretty much anything written by Aaron Sorkin).

Bram Weinstein reported on Redskins Radio that it is deadly quiet at Redskins Park and that Snyder & Co. are being extremely secretive. Bram said the last time they were this secretive Joe Gibbs was hired as coach. Bram seems to think all the Williams talk may be a smoke screen.

"barno, please stop it."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 14, 2008 04

Why should he stop it? That topic is about as on point as all of you screaming at Snyder, Williams or whoever without any qualifications to do so. In any case, the rule appears to have accomplished its intended goal. So junk it.

thanks for the perspective forces, ok everyone go home, no more blogging until you have a phd on the topic...nice knowin ya!

Hmmmmmmm...cue Barno railing against the "beat radio guy"...

Speculation, rumor, and innuendo are part of the game. Reporters have to report on it as it happens. I don't like it, but that's what journalism has come to today. Just watch CNN during one of those all important freeway chases or crazy redneck murders.

There was a site somewhere on the Interwebs that had the entire 48 hours of footage from several networks on 9/11/01-9/12/01. While it's painful subject matter, for sure, it's also quite interesting to look back on the "fog of war" and see the kinds of news and rumors that made it on the air that day.

The 'Skins coaching situation PALES in comparison to that. This is just fun and games, and I choose to have fun with it rather than spend my time chastising the beat reporter.

The mac & PC debate...hmmm interesting to say the least...I love how mac put out the ads and the last several years with colorful pretty cases and what not making them look like the the cool hip thing to get when buying a computer.

The bottom line is simple...Mac is for people who don't understand how to use and MAINTAIN their computer. PC with windows is so much better in terms of expansion, user friendly, and world compatibility. I am in the media/entertainment business and I have used Mac and pc and I solely use pc now. Macs tend to crsh alot when working on projects more than pc...but of course ANY COMPUTER IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE USER. I maintain my computers. I have 5 networked all over the house...I have NEEVER had a problem unless I caused it myself. People look for a compueter that will just work great forever...but it's not like that. You must understand what you are using for starters and most out there don't. I still have 2 of my 5 computers for 1999 and 2001. WHy because they are pcs and you can add and expand with them...I have maitained them and cared for them...hence they still work great!

That topic is about as on point as all of you screaming at Snyder, Williams or whoever without any qualifications to do so. In any case, the rule appears to have accomplished its intended goal. So junk it.

Posted by: forces | January 14, 2008 08:14 PM

forces--

What are you talking about, dude? You need to lay low until you can properly distinguish between a qualified and an un-qualified screamer, or racial harmony expert.

All of us who scream are well qualified. We have extensive experience. Some of us have taken graduate courses in the topic. Barno, on the other hand, doesn't even know what a minority is, so what's he doing up here preaching?

So what are you saying Lisa? Is snyder about to hire Vince Lombardi?

Here's that site:
http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

Warning: you're going to spend A LOT of time on there. Like I said, it's absolutely fascinating, and positively gut-wrenching.

Bram Weinstein reported on Redskins Radio that it is deadly quiet at Redskins Park and that Snyder & Co. are being extremely secretive. Bram said the last time they were this secretive Joe Gibbs was hired as coach. Bram seems to think all the Williams talk may be a smoke screen.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 14, 2008 08:13 PM

They about to hire Vince Lombardi?

see what I mean, forces? This chrislarry guy is one of the best qualified screamers up here, and you can't even recognize his expertise.

BTW, for all those who think Mac users are too cool for school...you should be here at MacWorld. They look like every other lumpy nerd to me. I can't tell any of them apart from Windows users.

That said, Macs are better :-)

diddy--Most of them aren't even Mac users. They're from Microsoft, trying to figure out what all this Mac buzz is about and what's coming next.

forces and leevi98 have forced me into an exstisential (i know its misspelled)crisis...must go reexamine my life...its all my fault...

barno save me!

t_e, I know a bunch of old co-workers who are coming in tonight, so you could be right about that :-)

ok f that i love myself...

diddy since Comandant Jobs shuttered all the mac rumor sites will you post any newz you here?

Is the new Mac Book touch a front runner for HC job?

I use macrumors.com for all my Mac news. Apple Insider is pretty good.

But tomorrow's announcements have been an extraordinarily well kept secret. I think Steve has plugged all the leaks on that ship. Lots of speculation out there, but there's nothing definitive and it's all basically a bunch of nerds reporting the same rumor over and over again.

In that way, it's a lot like the 'Skins head coaching rumors.

If a MacBook were in charge of the 'Skins, Portis wouldn't have fumbled in Green Bay. This is a fact. You cannot dispute it.

so, do you think Gregg Williams is a Mac guy or a PC guy? Dan Snyder? Vincent Cerrato?

Bram Weinstein:

"It's quiet."

. . . . .

"Too quiet."

Mort says -

The Redskins have arranged to interview Seattle Seahawks assistant coach Jim Mora on Wednesday and Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks on Thursday for Washington's vacant head coaching job, sources told ESPN.

Mora is the former Atlanta Falcons head coach who is currently the Seahawks defensive backs coach. Meeks has been an assistant coach with the Cowboys, Bengals, Falcons, Redskins, and Rams before joining the Colts in 2002.

greg williams: just bought his first computer, a mac, last july.

Vinny has one of those viajos or whatever

Snyder stole his baby sitters compaq laptop but bought a $2000 carrying case for it.

al saunders uses a combo of an abicus, a ham radio and networked supercomputers

gibbs is currently writing sermons on a comodore 64

Todd Collins just loaded linux on an old 30 gig ipod classic

Cooley uses a mac mini with 1200 inch monitor.

Portis had a cometic mirror wired to a smart board custom made.

I guess I'm just worried that the "mystery" person they interviewed on Friday was Cowher.

nice, cl

SI's Don Banks -

I don't have any particular nugget of inside information, but my instinct is strongly in the direction that we've seen the last of Mike Holmgren coaching in Seattle. As I wrote in mid-October, I expect Holmgren to walk away from the rest of his Seahawks contract once he takes a short break to take stock of his situation and do the self-inventory that he has gone through after each of the past two seasons.

....interesting.

Dallas Morning News is reporting that Jason Garrett is interviewing for the second time with Baltimore tonight. Hopefully they'll hire him and we'll at least be safe from another cowgirl coach.

I'm most definitely pro-Chuck Norris, yet anti-Mike Huckabee?

I do both Mac and PC. I have a 3-year-old 17" PowerBook G4 as my personal machine, and a six-year-old PC for consulting work. Some of the apps that I need to use for work (FrameMaker, RoboHelp, Madcap Flare) need Windows (I run Win 2K, old but stable).

I've also got a Dell laptop that belongs to the company where I'm currently on contract.

I have fewer problems with the Mac than the PC. I maintain both machines regularly, but the PC is more prone to have a problem for no apparent reason, which then goes away for no apparent reason.

If I could change anything about my current setup, it would be to have an Airport router instead of my Linksys, since the Linksys doesn't like to play nicely with Macs unless you turn off wireless encryption, which is dumb.

i am assuredly pro madeleine albright butt anti Hillary?

greg williams: just bought his first computer, a mac, last july.

Vinny has one of those viajos or whatever

Snyder stole his baby sitters compaq laptop but bought a $2000 carrying case for it.

al saunders uses a combo of an abicus, a ham radio and networked supercomputers

gibbs is currently writing sermons on a comodore 64

Todd Collins just loaded linux on an old 30 gig ipod classic

Cooley uses a mac mini with 1200 inch monitor.

Portis had a cometic mirror wired to a smart board custom made.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 14, 2008 08:39 PM

Santana's got a fast 4.2 MHz PC, but it crashes like once per day.

Joe Bugel's got a steam-powered Apple IIe, but it just keeps on chugging.

Brandon Lloyd has an iBook, but never uses it.

I am pro Brett Favre but anti Pats. Pro Norv and anti Eli.

"The bottom line is simple...Mac is for people who don't understand how to use and MAINTAIN their computer. PC with windows is so much better in terms of expansion, user friendly, and world compatibility. I am in the media/entertainment business and I have used Mac and pc and I solely use pc now. Macs tend to crsh alot when working on projects more than pc...but of course ANY COMPUTER IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE USER. I maintain my computers. I have 5 networked all over the house...I have NEEVER had a problem unless I caused it myself. People look for a compueter that will just work great forever...but it's not like that. You must understand what you are using for starters and most out there don't. I still have 2 of my 5 computers for 1999 and 2001. WHy because they are pcs and you can add and expand with them...I have maitained them and cared for them...hence they still work great!"

Posted by: leevi98

This post may be the silliest one I have ever read here. It is inaccurate and deliberately misleading. Only PC fanboys and gamers defend their preferred platform so vociferously with so much misinformation.

The rule of thumb remains as it has always been: people who need productivity use Macs; people who like to play games on a computer use PCs.

Sorry to intrude here, since I usually just read but don't post. It's easy to pass on discussions of the Rooney Rule, or Clinton vs. Ladell, but these diehard PC defenders are offensive.

haha good stuff kathy!

This post may be the silliest one I have ever read here. It is inaccurate and deliberately misleading. Only PC fanboys and gamers defend their preferred platform so vociferously with so much misinformation.

The rule of thumb remains as it has always been: people who need productivity use Macs; people who like to play games on a computer use PCs.

Sorry to intrude here, since I usually just read but don't post. It's easy to pass on discussions of the Rooney Rule, or Clinton vs. Ladell, but these diehard PC defenders are offensive.

Posted by: kathy208 | January 14, 2008 09:44 PM

WRONG. PC's are designed for productivity. Even the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials emphasize the fact that PCs are designed to be used for business and productivity, and Macs are used for fun. The real rule of thumb is, if you're doing something involving media, film, music, etc., you're better off using a Mac. Otherwise, for gaming, databasing, designing presentations, or a vast array of other business applications, use a PC. PCs support about 10x the amount of software as Macs, and are much more versatile.

Marc (de la avenir)

Merci marquer, j'apprécient l'appui. Tristement, Barno est un a$$hat complet. C'est la guerre.

Redcoat, I think I'm starting to understand French!!

Redcoat, I think I'm starting to understand French!!

Posted by: kost52 | January 14, 2008 10:08 PM

Hmmm.... I'm trying, but I only understand Spanish and Arabic. (And a little Italian)

Some things need very little translation Kost! Good to se you back again mate. And congrats on the fantasy league win!

Oh sorry Marc, I almost forgot.

Allez les peaux!

Thanks mate, that reminds me, I'll have to organise the charity stuff sometime this week.

Yep, just let me know where to mail the cheque, virtually or otherwise. It was a lot of fun, thanks for organizing it. Shall we try again next year, but maybe with less of the disinterested Aussies?

Oh, and who is going to stop SMACK's juggernaut on the EPL?

Hey -- save the Mac vs. PC debate for sometime around Feb 20, when the 14th round of mock drafts is up and we're debating the finer points of which 267 lb. DE we're going to draft if we can just trade up to #13.

Yeah, definitely, I'm sure we can find some more RI's to replace my bum mates.

As for SMACK, I think he has it in the bag, 2 game lead, we won't catch that, it's not like the NFL Fantasy where it all comes down to one game.

Hmmmmmmm...cue Barno railing against the "beat radio guy"..

Posted by: PDiddy | January 14, 2008 08:18 PM

I actually like Bram Weinstein. Plus, who doesn't love the "I'm Bram Weinstein!" after every one of his reports. Loved it on 980, and love it on 730.

Barno, on the other hand, doesn't even know what a minority is, so what's he doing up here preaching?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 14, 2008 08:21 PM

Yes, I don't know what a minority is. Neither do you.

You think you do. But you have no idea...

Yes, I don't know what a minority is. Neither do you.

You think you do. But you have no idea...

Posted by: barno | January 14, 2008 10:45 PM

As Megskin once memorably said "cue the f*ckwittery".

I can say that Bill Cowher DID NOT interview friday, saturday or sunday. He was at an AAU basketball tournament held in Pine Hills NC all weekend.

His daughter plays basketball at ravenscroft(same school as emily proctor by the way), and my wife's sister plays for a private school rival in Raleigh.

So that is the Korean "racists" remarks, since the term has been thrown around by a certain few like a colds on a NY subway.

Also, if Saunders leaves...does that buy JC another 1, 2 or 3 years?

I'll say that if it is not GW, then Cambell has got to be praying for a west coast offense kind of guy like Jim Mora JR, his zone blocking techniques could also benefit our aging offensive line and CP at the same time.

Also, if Saunders leaves...does that buy JC another 1, 2 or 3 years?

Posted by: dbussjd | January 14, 2008 10:50 PM

Hard to see how the introduction of yet another offensive scheme buys JC anything. You'd also almost certainly be looking for both a #2 and #3 QB as Brunell will probably retire and Collins will follow Saunders wherever as he's only value is in Saunders' system.

Also, I keep seeing people speculating that Schwartz would come to DC and take over the defense if Williams is promoted. That's not a given is it? Wouldn't the Skins have to compensate with draft picks as Schwartz is already under contract and was allowed to DC to interview for the HC role, NOT the d coord role.

And I don't think giving him a vanity title like "Associate Grand Panjandrum, Defense" really gets around that, no matter how big the salary be. Grand High Pooh-bah maybe, Grand Panjandrum never.

I could see Henne going to us in round 4/5.
But a #2 option is a little more difficult...depending on the scheme, Leftwich, Harrington, Carr, Losman, Anderson...

None really excite do they? I'll say it again, it is make it or break it for JC this season!

And what do the apologists have to say?

That's a good point about Collins staying with Saunders, I hadn't thought about that.

And what do the apologists have to say?

Posted by: dbussjd | January 14, 2008 11:02 PM

I believe they would say "sorry" dbussjd.

Is this a trick question? I was told there would be no test.

point taken....

OC: Jim Mora Jr DC:Schwartz(4-3)/Ryan(3-4)
HC: Holmgren/Cowher

Or...Jim Mora Jr HC, and OC Russ Grimm

I think if Holmgren leaves Seattle, it's to retire, not to go elsewhere. And if that does happen, would that make Mora the leading candidate there?

dbussjd, you seem convinced that the team will be blown up. Is that what you hope or is that what you think? Or are you just coming up with alternatives to the continuity option?

What about a scenario that has Gregg Williams HC, and Bill Cowher named team president?

Explains secretive nature, allows Dan to appease the fan base with continuity in hiring Williams, and Cowher is in the building as much as he would have been in NY.

To answer your question a little less obtusely dbussjd, I think 2008/9 will be a make or break for several younger quarterbacks.

Romo, Vince Young, Leinart, Anderson, Russell, Cutler, Campbell, maybe even Rivers and Manning Minor (LBM) too dependant on how this season ends up for them, all may have something to prove still.

If Jason is on his 457th new offensive scheme in the last 7 years by then, I suggest he may be only a few bad games from the QB's junkyard, or the Miami Dolphins as it's better known.

I know you guys are all preaching 'continuity' on here, but I woul dsay it may be more important for your offense than your defense next year. There are plenty of people who run similar defenses, even people in-house who may have absorbed enough to run something without Williams, but I think if you change your offense, you may need a much larger turnover of personnel than you can afford. Effectively you'll have blown the whole thing up anyway if you lose Saunders.

I honestly don't know if the team will be "blown up" from a front office standpoint, nor am I sure that I like that idea either.

If Gregg does NOT get hired, it would be tough to imagine many of the assistants and associate head coaches staying on don't you think?

Hence, a possible bow up...which could lead to a blown up roster as well.

I feel like...Until a Team President/GM is hired, we will be mired between 5-11 and 9-7 teams

I think what happens with Anderson is interesting, will the Browns keep him around while they have Brady Quinn in the wings?

Keep all of the Qb's except Cutler, Manning, and Russell.

Cutler seems to be forcing Shannahan to consider a change in schemes(according to Pat Kirwan)

The Giants seem to be adapting to Manning instead of vice versa

Russell only has a handful of starts, and might get the four years that Carr had in Houston

all of the other qb's I agree with

JC's grasp of the offense has been characterized by some talent evaluators as "tenuous".
The question is, will the game 'slow down' for him. If so, he has all the tools. He can learn a playbook, even if it's not the current 700 pages. We can assume an improved o-line (really can't get much worse than last year). We can assume a slight upgrade in receivers (but health is the more important factor).
He's had a couple of injury scares, now, but with luck he's not had anything that requires the whole reconstruction/rehab cycle.
There is, in short, nothing standing in his way -- whether Saunders is here or not.

What do you think of the influx of spread offenses in the college game and how it is going to/and has to some degree, a huge negative impact on the quarterback play in the nfl?

I humbly suggest that Brady Quinn's current situation eerily parallels the old Quantum Physics problem known as "Schrodinger's Cat".

That is, until his quantumsState is "fixed" by his being "observed" (getting on the field to play) he exists in a quantum states of both "alive" (good) and "dead" (Cleo Lemon) simultaneously.

This represents an interesting chellenge for Cleveland, as until he can be "observed", his trade value is currently both "50% live" and "50% dead". Therefore statistically speaking, Cleveland are better off trading him at this point, as to "observe" him may be to "fix" his quantum state at "100% Cleo Lemon" which would be disastrous for them, yet still fairly lucrative for Mr Quinn himself. QED.

Ergo, smart thinking says Cleveland trades Quinn and keeps Anderson as he has been "observed" to be good. Which means they'll do the exact opposite.

I agree with the campbell comments, although I must confess I am not a fan of Campbell at all.

Disregard taking Henne in the 4/5 if no quarterback has been drafted by us by rounds 6/7 then go ahead.

If not, let's take John David Booty. Erik Ainge could also be available in Henne's spot as well.

"although I must confess I am not a fan of Campbell at all."

really dbussed? i never could have guessed....

and its john david bootay, big bootay!

(Buckaroo Bonzai anyone?)

Buckaroo Bonzai? Was that the smaller, cheaper, Japanese version cL?

Coat, I'd give you major props for linking all of the major themes of scientific thought to Fins quarterbacks, except that there have been so many of them that it's not the same kind of challenge.

Redcoat, to me it seems very similar to the situation the Chargers were in a few years ago, with Brees and Rivers.

redcoat are you telling me you haven't seen Buckaroo Bonzai???? rectify that bro!

I know Cload, I can't even list them all for the last two seasons because I've only got 7 fingers on each of my 3 hands. :)

The rule of thumb(s) is basically; "EVERY NFL quarterback will start for Miami at some point in their career, no matter how medicre that is". Even Todd Collins will start for us before he gets to the mandatory Miami QB retirement age of 62*, just you wait and see....

* = 39 in "Marino" years.

.... so I'd say they can't afford to trade Quinn because of the cap cost, and they can't re-sign Anderson, because after his season he'll be after starter money and they won't be able to afford 2 high priced QB's, which means he hits the market, and the Browns are looking for a reliable vet for their #2 QB.

Sorry cL, I was trying to get a cheap laugh at your expense as the film is Buckaroo BAnzai (whereas a BOnzai is a miniature Japanese tree) like such as, maps, etc.

Sorry, I'll leave quietly officer.

But no I haven't seen it, but now I will. Mrs Redcoat did get me to watch "Johnny Dangerously" though last week and I loved it. Does that count?

I banish JC to the 8th dimension...

How about that Chris and Larry?

Re: Betts.

I like Betts; I think he has done an admirable job filling in, but I think we should shop him for a 3rd rounder. Look at the Falcons-- they could desperately use someone who could step in to the starting role, or even the Browns (to complement Jamal Lewis) if they don't go after Michael Turner, or Houston, who lacks consistency at RB. I'm just saying... wasn't Cooley a 3rd rounder? While I like Betts, I think Rock has the overall package and I think Marcus Mason could be a great find if worked with. Of course, there is ol' Mike Sellers, too. Shoot, Sellers could easily fill in as a #2 back and we all know he'd love more hand-offs. Rewind your mind to Sellers against the Lions. Now do you see?

Besides, this year's draft is so deep at RB this year we could pick up Steve Slaton or another quality back in the third round if we really wanted to (like we did with Cooley, an HB). But we don't need to. Even if CP is on his way out, we have next year's draft to pick up a new RB if he stinks and the others don't work out (but you watch and see-- good O-Line production = CP having a great season... bad O-Line production and CP is STILL the #3 back in the NFL). Rock is a core Redskin and good returner, CP is a mean blocker, Sellers is a tank, and Mason could have some potential there.

If it were me as the GM, I'd be looking to go (in the draft):

Round 1- DE
Round 2- Posession WR (someone tall who can be a real #2... don't get me wrong, I love ARE) I'd say James Hardy would be my pick if available.
Round 3- OG
Round 3 (Betts?)- CB
Round 5- LB
Round 6- FB (Jacob Hester and some of the other FBs in the draft are pretty bad arse)
Round 7- OT

I'd also be looking to get Albert Haynesworth, Alan Faneca, Lance Briggs, and Asante Samuel in Free Agency and hope to snag at least 2 of those guys.

Thoughts?

dbussjd, just curious... what QB do you think the Skins could (realitically) get as a long term (4-5 years) improvement over JC? Please, name names.

...lapsed into The Beat Reporter dimension there... the parenthetical word I was looking for was realistically.

yeah, hardy would fit the bill as a receiver that we need...6-7 4.58 40.

Seems to me that the fact that it is allegedly "quiet....to quiet" around the park doesn't mean diddly poo.

In fact, it reminds me of about a week ago when the glaring dearth of words sounding like "Gregg Williams" coming from Dan Snyder's lips portended certain doom for the seemingly obvious choice to replace Joe Gibbs.

In case certain folks haven't noticed, Snyder has not yet fulfilled the Rooney Rule, so with the sword of Roger "Damocles" Goodell hanging above his head, he's not gonna do anything that makes it look like he's made up his mind on Gibbs' successor.

So, yeah.

alan you give me parameters to work under and i'd be happy to

For those of you regulars who know me... I have an announcement. I, TDawg, am beginning training to play NCAA football for Indiana University next year. Am I 23 and most likely ineligible? Yes. Have I played football since 8th grade? No.

But never you mind. I'm a student of the game, and a 6'1" 285 lbs. at that. Does that give away which position I'm training for?

Oh yeah. Fullback, baby. I'm gonna try to get to a lean 265 of pure muscle, try to make the team, try to play actually, then subsequently try to make into the NFL (likely through the CFL first).

Laugh now, but wouldn't that be cool if I actually DID make something of myself?!??! Oh man. That'd be the awesomest story ever. Mark it here, all of you friends o' mine. This is sure to become a piece of "this day in the RI blog history" history.

TDawg "Da Fullback", out.

nice debussed, niiice

he shouted 'bonzai!' as he expertly trimmed his bonsai qhilst watching 'buckaroo banzai.'

tdawg the next rudy?

Buckaroo Banzai... one of the few movies I saw in the theater when I was young and poor. My review: "That was $7 and two hours I'll never get back".
On TV, several years later, before blogging while intoxicated had been invented (you can submit the royalties to me anytime!), it was a bit better. I imagine the alcohol tab came to about .... $7. A much more satisfying investment.