The Fog of Uncertainty still looms over the coaching search.

Maybe "Mr." Snyder really likes Arizona peaches and sent Jeeves in the plane out there to pick some up. "Jeeves, good sir, get to the Jet and kindly pick me up some peaches."

Really, at this point, it's the only plausible explanation.

Oh, and am I first?

It was Mark Carrier (formerly of the Ravens).

Elfin says they interviewed Grimm Thursday. Snyder et al. feeding the Times again?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20 080113/SPORTS01/162054547/1005/sports

Hmmmm...the plot thickens...

According to this site (http://www.city-data.com/states/Arizona-Agriculture.html), one of Arizona's leading cash crops is lettuce!

Maybe "Mr." Snyder is pulling a Rerun and has joined forces with Tom Cruise to worship a head of lettuce!

This sounds like investigative journalism that Jasno should be on like white on rice. Barno needs to call him on it. He's our resident annoying gadfly. I'm just here for the after dinner mints.

what a pass...too bad the skins can't do that cuz all their recievers are under 4'11"

maybe cindy can authorize jason for a leer jet to follow snyder's plane around...

How on Earth is CBS America's most watched network?

A Leer jet!!!! That's Diddy's plane!!!! Sorry, Dealer, too funny to pass up.
This is my favorite "first" post ever:
Oh, and am I first?
Meanwhile, Wacky Norv is out of timeouts, but who am I to criticize? We've got ourselves a ballgame.

Forget the Leer...you want the Citation X.

Is Jessica in Dallas today?

Who was the mystery person interviewed on Friday by Mr.Dan? (Hummm)Ray Rhodes will be the Redskins next head coach.

No, she suddenly remembered that she had to record an album.
On another matter, I'd like to announce to the group that I've had it up to here with Peyton Manning.

Are you frustrated with Sprint Mobile, Sony, Mastercard, DirecTV, Gatorade, ESPN, or Reebok as well?

Why the hate Cindy. I LOVE Peyton Manning!!

"If I were you, I would just buy some bigger shirts."

Posted by: PDiddy | January 13, 2008 01:35 PM

Got to give credit where it's due. That wasn't me, that was Crickets.

LOL!!! who knew that a letter could change the definition of a word like that...

leer="To look with a sidelong glance, indicative especially of sexual desire or sly and malicious intent."

diddy, i was thinking the same thing regarding cbs but then again i don't watch tv...just whatever the wife dvr's (that modeling agency show, housewives of orange county, the hills, platinum weddings...)

i can't believe i just confessed to that...

(Take 2...)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 13, 2008 01:35 PM

Got to give credit where it's due. That wasn't me, that was Crickets.

I wonder what noted disciplinarian Norv Turner will make his team do if they lose today. Papier Mache?

(Take 3, this'll get it...)

Loved freakzilla's list of excuses for the Seahawks.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 13, 2008 01:35 PM

Got to give credit where it's due. That wasn't me, that was Crickets.

Any posable guys from Arizona State or the University of Phoenix that he could be talking too?

Joke about Univ of Phoenix.

I think I'm still a wee bit drunk from last night. That's my confession.

suzanne, your "LOVE" for peyton is biased cuz you "HATE" the best qb that ever lived, tom brady.

I have to say, on the "list of quarterbacks I hate", Phillip Rivers is pretty much right on top.

Funny thing: I was wearing the same outfit last night that Tom Brady wore in his press conference. I felt vaguely cool for the 8 seconds that he routinely appeared throughout the evening on the televisions in the bar. Like I was about to throw a touchdown with my tequila or snag a supermodel girlfriend.

It was that kind of night.

Dealer, um, what about Todd Collins!?!?!

Seriously, Brady would not be half as good without Moss, Welker, and everyone else that he can get the ball to.

Bret Favre on the other hand...how can you not love someone whose name is constantly used in the same sentence as "boyish enthusiasm?

But most of the Peyton commericals make me laugh (except for that one where he looks like he is in a hotel hallway - that one confuses me).

People, people... The jet was empty. Danny just wanted a dry run to see how long it would take to get to Glendale.

Q: "How do we get to the Super Bowl?"
A: "Practice, practice, practice."

So that oath of sobriety didn't take. Well done sir, January didn't stand a chance!

I was faced with one incontrovertible truth: in a room full of extraordinarily beautiful women, only alcohol can make me interesting :-) Suffice to say, I am the most interesting person I know when I am drunk.

I think San Diego might be shopping for a new kicker at about 5pm tonight.

Diddy, this is an interesting tactic you've employed in your campaign to abstain from alcohol for the month of January. ;-)

Also just read Norval's lips and he said the "F" word and "JC" (and he wasn't calling for Jason Campbell!).

Norv is apoplectic. Is anyone else enjoying this as much as me?

I might try for February. January is a tough month what with all the days in it.

Maybe I should abstain on Leap Day.

Norv might be using those very same letters again here in a minute.

Holy moley, what a great return. Sucks for the penalty, but still awesome.

Okay, Peyton Manning is the WORST blocker I have ever seen!

They just got lucky with the holding call...

I enjoy Peyton's commercials. I'm just tired of him.

I've never seen Norv look so manly.

Wow, what a BS penalty! Hahaha!

Norv is going to bust a vein!

This is awesome.

I live out here in Phoenix and one of the things we have here are fancy day spas (up in Scottsdale). A lot of celebs pop in for a day of pampering so maybe The Danny and his racquetball partner just needed a day to relax after all of the stress from the job search.

I actually like Norv Turner - think that he had some terrible, terrible luck when he was here (can we say Ferrotte ramming his head into the wall to celebrate?)

Not that I am rooting for the Chargers, mind you.

Norvell seems like something is bothering him.

Still, this game is fun to watch.

Well, assuming that Indy gets by SD today, they're going to have to be much sharper next week to take down NE.

Bill Cowher has that certain Washington Redskins look to him.

A pox on norv's face, oh wait too late.

I agree with Cower, Indy will pull away in the 3rd

They are already printing up the programs for the AFC Super Bowl. The NFL will have Pats/Colts and then Pats/Pack if it kills them. Look for some bad calls against the Boys today. I know, grassy knoll...gravelly road.

So who is the better QB? 18 or 12? I don't think we can answer that until 5 years from now, but its going to be as tough a question as Elway/Mareno.

I agree smack, I do think that the NFL may be tampering with some games.

It must have been a tough decision for the NFL. The pretty boy vs. the old grizzly vet, or brother vs. brother. Oh to have such choices!

Just had this conversation with Tony. Which matchup would the NFL rather see in the Supe? Certainly Brady....less so Manning vs. Manning, altho they'd like to have the Gints in the game. As much as they'd like Favre in the Supe, they'd prefer Dallas. Dallas v. New England. Put that in your gravelly road and smoke it...
Er....
Meanwhile, Norv appears to have coached 'em up at halftime. Norvball!

What if Norvball derails the Pats next week? I just blew my own mind with that one.

Would it not be strange if Peyton loses this game and Eli wins his?

Even stranger if the Super Bowl was a Chargers/Giants matchup - with the two QBs who were traded on draft day facing each other.

Of course we know that will never happen since the Patriots are going to the Super Bowl and will win.

I can't agree with you there Cindy. Your logic is sound, of course, but America has seen Cowboys Pats.

Watching this game is making me wonder if JC could make any of the throws that Rivers has made, or show the pocket presence that Philip is showing?

3rd year quarterback, going into his 4th year and second year starting.

Enough excuses, let's see what he's got...

Reality: New coach, New system, New players, No familiarity, ONLY 2nd year starting(maybe 1st full year) = FREE PASS

But for how long?

TV and the league luv the numbers the Boys of Cow bring.

Wow, intercepted at the two! What if Norv is destiny's darling this year?

But you've got one chance with Favre story, the Cowboys will go on forever. Hey did you know Jerome Bettis is from Detroit?

Packers vs. Patriots is what I want to see...

JC is on the hot seat next year. The NFL is a win now league and his apprenticeship is over. As fans, we should rightfully have high expectations of him. The coaches have to let him fly and see what he's got. You only go as far as your QB, after all.

If I had two beeeelion dollars, I'd buy the Cowboys and move them to Anchorage. It would be a public service, my contribution to the American people.

To me it all depends on if JC will start being able to make a quick pass, throw from "half cocked". JC has the same problem that a lot of young QB's have, slow windup before the throw always looking to gun it when he would probably give his guy a better chance to catch the ball if he takes something off once in a while.

There you go, after a comprehensive demographic survey of the average NFL viewer, I win 1-0.

I'd buy the Redskins and move them to Manila.

To be clear, what I really want to see is Jessica Simpson in my bedroom. But since there's only a 25% chance of that happening, I'm going with the odds: Packers vs. Patriots.

Norv looks like he's giving birth.

When Dungy wins this challenge, Norv's head may explode.

Anybody got a pool going about how creatively Romo is going to choke today? "Botched hold on a field goal" was pretty good. But I think he can top it this year.

I'm sure that this has been "bandied" about ad nauseum, but there will be NO gm right?

I should know the answer, but I'm the guy on the board that is not sold on JC!

Norv is giving birth...to cute little Baby Offseason.

Okay, it's touchdown already, Dan. STFU.

I'm afraid that Norv is going to go charging after the next time he comes out on the field!

Diddy, perhaps he'll give us a creative reprise of "high snap off the helmet," perhaps this time headbutting the ball into the Jints' secondary.

I would buy the Jaguars and move them anywhere thats not Jacksonville. Maybe: LA, San Antonio, Vegas, Shoot even Southern VA would be a better market I would think. As much as I hate the Cowboys I could never relocate them because I don't think the NFL should be allowed to re-locate a team once the won a championship.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why would the 'Skins need a GM? We have a talent_evaluator, they have a racquetball_player.

I'd also like to add...if we keep the current roster as "in tact" as possible, Gregg will be the guy.

However I'd like to see a "players" coach like Jim Mora Jr. have a shoot for the "long term" of the franchise.

typical norv team implosion

Has anyone noticed that the teams in the playoffs drafted their talent, and wide receivers are over 6'2"?? Maybe they should be looking for a good talent evaluator as they have not had one for years.

I really need to re my posts before I hit submit.

What I meant to say is that I am afraid that Norv is going to go after Gerry Austin.

I meant shot!

Like what I'll need to have when the skins send out season ticket renewal forms!

what's wrong with LT???? are you kidding me?

I am willing to bet Norv gets replaced in a season or two.

Way to go out on a limb there, alex :-)

ohhhh shti!!!! typical norv team sticktoitiveness!

Well, now.

Indy's D is tanking ain't they

OT question - This was the first year as a season ticket holder, so I did not have to pay up until July. Do you know when you do an renewal (since they only give you like 10 days to pay, I just need to be ready for it.). THanks.

My gut is that he is intended to be a place holder for them to try and get Cower when he comes back in.

i doubt it alex. SD team is so loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. i have forgiven norv for all those after game pressers. i'm rooting for him in this game and the next if they make it to the patsies.

I bet they'd boo these kids in Philly...

Uh is it half time or the 4th Quarter, shouldn't they do this stupid HS award thing at the half?

i'd boo them at fedex. they's holding up a good game.

God, Rivers is such a douchebag.

what a bs call!!! ummmmmmmmazing!

diddy, was thinking the same thing. they still have a quarter to play and he's acting like it's over.

WTF? That was a penalty?

The League has it in for Norv! Hahahaha.

I'm due in February...depending on the hire as HC.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Daniel signed the hc AFTER the forms went out.

We will see. This is Norv's 3rd or 4th HC job right, I just don't see him as a good acquisition guy.

shouldn't he be ejected for that?

Okay this has been the most retarded three play series I have seen

where's merriman for this game? are they still testing him regularly or something?

The NFL is a joke. It's already decided, Manning bowl.

Some of the calls have been really...um shall I say strange.

It's not the WWF but it is close.

Can you tell I'm rooting for the Chargers?

And Rivers is kinda a douche, I had some classes with him at NCSU. However my wife worked with his wife in Raleigh and she was pretty cool.

play of the game so far (touch back)

And the greatest invention of all time for the football fan? Slingbox!

I don't get the Touchback call. He caught the ball at the 2, and stepped into the end-zone while stopping momentum.

volek's a good qb

Well, it looks like Snyder will be able to interview Indy's assistant coaches this week after all.

And the greatest invention of all time for the football fan? Slingbox!

Posted by: dbussjd | January 13, 2008 03:34 PM

Na, the Beer Helmet.

Norv goes into New England and beats the Pats.

Cindy, I will eat an entire Oreo Pizza if the Pats lose to the Chargers.

So why is Snyder not interviewing Singeltary? He would be a smart guy to talk with.

they sure will make it tough cindy for the patsies. but never bet against brady. did you guys see that 4th and 6 conversion?

Much as I love the Peyton, my first priority is denying Pretty Boy and Dr. Evil. Of the two teams playing in this game, SD looks to be the more capable of doing that.

alex, i think you answered your own question.

also patsies and the colts only teams in the playoffs not wearing 21 on their helmets(?).

They are right, I did drive through Indy a few months back that new stadium is a mammoth. But nice looking for a dome.

TD Indy...

They are right, I did drive through Indy a few months back that new stadium is a mammoth. But nice looking for a dome.

TD Indy...

Okay, the planet may be righting itself now....I do not overrule that call, if I'm a zebra. (And if I were, I'd be Ed Hochuli.) Touchdown.

I saw one guy for NE wearing the 21 next to the 91 they are wearing. It was funny the stickers are so big it was starting to go on the side of helmet where the logo is.

i really think that the next game for AFC is the real superbowl. and the networks, nfl want brady vs. manning next week.

Other then Ed I can't even name another ref.

That sound you just heard? Norv's bubble bursting.

I do think Ed Hochuli will actually belong in the Hall of Fame.

Boys of Cow-Gints Inactives
All-Pro receiver Terrell Owens returned to the Dallas Cowboys' lineup for their NFC divisional playoff game Sunday against the New York Giants, who were playing without two of their top cornerbacks.
Veteran Sam Madison missed his second straight game with a pulled stomach muscle and backup Kevin Dockery was out with a hip flexor.
Owens, who led the NFC with 15 touchdown catches, missed the regular-season finale with a high ankle sprain. He was limited in practice Friday and was listed as questionable for the game.
Corey Webster, who had an interception and a fumble recovery while starting for Madison in the wild-card win over Tampa Bay, got the start again.
Pro Bowler Marion Barber started at halfback for Dallas in place of Julius Jones.

So am I the only person who thinks that the bye week is not nearly the advantage that they make it to be?

Yes.

One comment on the Williams interview:

I have been championing the Gregg Williams as the head coach. Then i fast forwarded in my head to NFC East games where it will be Gregg Williams on the sidelines for the Skins in critical situations. And then I remembered how we got beat like a drum on third downs etc. when he went into those Cover 2 shells and the famed Mike Nolan Prevent D. It got me frightened. Then I thought of Jon Gruden in the same position and it made me so much more comfortable.

TheCindy, any rumors at all about Jon Gruden? Is that a possibility or am I just completely wrong here. What are your thoughts about a Jon Gruden-led Redskins team.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. There's plenty of precedent for the Colts that having the bye week is a disaster. Remember two years ago? I rest my case.

I like Jon Gruden as a coach. (I particularly enjoy calling him Chucky.) He'd be a good one, but it isn't happening here.

Can someone explain to me the whole fascination with Gruden? I just don't get it. He has had some great years but also some terrible ones.

Vantage Point looks cool, but I'm a sucker for Rashomon style movies...

I would have gone for the three there. Counted on getting it back with SD's offensive stars hurting and then given it to Vinatieri to try to win it.

Won a SuperBowl. Demands respect. Young coach that isn't a "players'" coach. Brilliant offensive mind. Coaches with a mean streak. You never feel overmatched when he's your coach. Only guy in decades to make the Raiders good.

I think he's the best young coach in the NFL and in the Top 3 overall.

Love 2 minute drills with HOF quarterbacks...

Okay - Peyton is going to win this game right now - or come out and throw a INT on 2nd down...

Gruden is also under contract in Tampa, and likely to get an extension. The Glazers won't let him go anywhere (and he's got a great situation down there anyhow).

Let that one go the same direction as the Fisher dream...

Riddle me this...

Richie Pettibone goes 4-12, gets canned after 1 season, and people have tagged him a coaching "mistake".

The next year, Norv Turner goes 3-13 with the same team--yet keeps coaching over a total period of 7 years for a compiled record of 49-59-1 with the Skins.

He then posts a 5-11 and 4-12 record with the Raiders before leaving.

Now in his 10th season as a head coach, he goes 11-5 (with a Chargers team that was 14-2 the previous year) and appears to be on his way to a 3-1 playoff record after 2 trips to the playoffs in 10 years.

Does that make Norval a successful choice of head coach, unlike Pettibon?

WoW!!!!!!!!!!!! what a hit! MIH of the season

Wow. Looks like the 'Skins will have a head coach by the end of the week.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

now peyton has more time to do those commercials!

Looks like those Indy coaches are gonna be available sooner than later.

I just hope San Diego plays this well against NE.

Okay, officially NOT a Rivers fan - who, besides TO, gets into it with the fans?

Who to root for next week?

suzanne, don't be a hater. root for a true champion (brady).

Should have known the Colts would lose when the Beat Reporter went on WaPo Live this week saying "the only game this weekend that won't be close is the Indy game. Norv Turner and the Chargers are about to get blown out."

I've never seen anyone make more erroneous predictions and assertions in my life than the Beat Reporter.

I actually like Tom Brady - it's Bellichik that I think has no class! Just got to deal with the fiance talking about how great his team is! UGH!

But I HATE Tony Romo! I really want someone to knock the smirk off his face.

cowher has lost so much weight

yeah...it'd be so cool if/when he leaves the patsies...for whatever reason.

Dealer, just because you love Tom Brady does not mean everyone has too. I cannot STAND the Pats (or Brady) and will support any team other than the Cowboys against them.

Also found it hysterical that they brought out Richard Simmons to mock the Beat Reporter and his complaining about being overworked.

That, plus they made him do a ridiculous dance which I also got a good laugh out of.

Good stuff.

lisa, you MUST come over to the darrrk side. btw, did you hate jordan too?

Regarding the purported trip to Arizona - "millions of peaches, peaches for free". This was, if anything a cursory talk with Grimm - he's not in the hunt. However, the Indy coaches (Caldwell, in particular) just became available. WOO-HOO!

I've never seen anyone make more erroneous predictions and assertions in my life than the Beat Reporter.

Posted by: barno | January 13, 2008 04:22 PM

How about:

Wolfowitz tells the U.S. House Budget Committee that oil exports would pay for the reconstruction of post-invasion Iraq. "It's got already, I believe, on the order of $15 billion to $20 billion a year in oil exports, which can finally -- might finally be turned to a good use instead of building Saddam's palaces," he testifies.

VICE PRES. DICK CHENEY: My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

Pres Bush: In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.

[politics off]

I go back to what I said earlier about SD having a better shot at beating the Pats than Indy. Now I guess we'll find out. If they play next week like they did today, it'll be interesting.

No, I did not hate Jordan. As far as the Patriots go, the credit should go to their O line. Brady has ALL KINDS OF TIME to throw the ball.

If not for his O line, who knows how well he would play?

On the Fox pre-game show, they just said Grilliams has his second interview tomorrow.

Jay Glazer just reported that Williams will have a second day of interviewing tomorrow.

Where does Glazer get his info?

Freak, if the Chargers are without Rivers and LT next week it will be a blowout by the Pats....probably will be anyway.

glazer gets info like all journalists by having sources, leaks, friends, contacts, and info feeders....

F Brady
F Jordan
F Gretzky
F Greg Maddox

Agreed, Lisa, but neither of them looked like they couldn't come back after a week's rest. They were both up and walking around.

Sorry SMACK, but I really,really hope that your boys get their A$$es handed to them early and often.

I hate Joe Buck. But not as much as I hate the Cowboys.

Go Gints!!

do you guys rember when snyder called and apologized to charlie casserly for "firing the wrong guy"...meaning he should've fired norv instead...i wonder what he thinks now

dealer he did fire the wrong guy. Norv sucks the team he got in SD is loaded and over came his ineptness..

if snyder had kept casserly we might still have a GM and would have been better run...

F Norv, then, now and in the future...

Sept 2006: Mark Brunnel, 22 straight completions, 24/27 261 yds 1 TD.

--Skins 31, Texans 15

Jan 2008: Tom Brady, 26-28, 262 yds, 3 TDs

--Pats 31, Jags 20

Eerie, huh?

"Norval Turner, Super Bowl winning coach"

Anyone else hate the possible sound of that?

cL, agreed. it takes a special coach to f up a team like SD. and marty was that special coach.

Eerie, huh?

Posted by: Alan4 | January 13, 2008 04:48 PM

I fail to see the eeriness.

wow! where's jessica?

TD Jints!

woo hoo amani toomer!

for the next 4 hours..."go giants!"

With the Colts losing, looks like we'll be able to interview our Rooney obligations and wrap up this coaching issue sooner rather than later.

I hate Budweiser commercials, making excuses for their sh1tty beer. "It's light and crisp, not dark and heavy like an import."

i do love bud in a king can myself....

wow that was some baaaaaaad tackling...

Is it just me or is Antonio Pierce looking out of shape? Just wondering.

If Redskins One went to Arizona (and didn't ask for anyone's permission to talk to anyone), hopefully they were talking to Larry Fitzgerald.

How did we hold Marion Barber to only 1 yard rushing?

Geno and I declare this to be blaw: If your team has just been knocked from the playoffs, your commercials can't be run until the next season. Sure, it's a lot of dead time, given how many commercials Peyton Manning is in, but a blaw's a blaw.

lisa, b/c they were down 2 o lineman and didn't care about game....

There's that bewildered look that is so becoming on Sheli!

Norv Turner is coaching in the AFC championship game while the Skins are looking for yet another head coach.......

Chargers did without LT and Rivers...looks like the move to dump Marty was the right one after all.

whoops....

anyone feeling like this game is ovah?

Where'd everybody go?

The camera just caught Eli dropping the F-bomb. Everyone do a shot!

That was a nice drive.

Wow! As much crap as Eli gets - he has come up with some great drives at the end of games/halves.

Now it's Coughlin with the F-bomb. Um, everyone do a shot?

eli takes waaaay to much grief up here in nyc.....

giants fans are the worst

f giants fans

but today for one more half go giants!!

Norv Turner is coaching in the AFC championship game while the Skins are looking for yet another head coach.......

Chargers did without LT and Rivers...looks like the move to dump Marty was the right one after all.

Posted by: i155133 | January 13, 2008 05:41 PM

Most head coaches don't get 10 years worth of stunning mediocrity to prove themselves. Turner still has to win his next couple of games, or he's worse than Schottenheimer to me--Marty at least wins in the regular season:

Chargers:
2007 11-5-0 1st -- AFC West 2-0 - Advanced to Conference Championship, Norv Turner
2006 14-2-0 -- AFC West 0-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs (Marty Schottenheimer fired)

Raiders:
2005 4-12-0 (Norval Turner fired)
2004 5-11-0 Norval Turner
2003 4-12-0 (Bill Callahan fired)

Redskins:
2000 7-8-0 (Norval Turner fired)
1999 10-6-0 1st -- NFC East 1-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs, Norval Turner
1998 6-10-0 Norval Turner
1997 8-7-1 Norval Turner
1996 9-7-0 Norval Turner
1995 6-10-0 Norval TurnerM
1994 3-13-0 Norval Turner
1993 4-12-0 (Richie Petibon fired)

My now, don't all of you idiots that enjoyed ragging on San Diego look like fools now?? I hope you enjoy your CROW!!

BTW, you are probably the same fools espousing some sort of opinion on what the deadskins should do. Hope they follow your stupidity.

beep. beep.

The more I think of next year, NO MATTER WHO THE COACH IS, I'm worried...

Take a look at the division. Yeah, quarterback immediately comes to mind...

Collins is NOT the answer, but without a GM presence, and an OLDER I mean "veteran lead" team returning to Washington, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS A QUARTERBACK WHO COULD BE GOOD, OR ONE WHO NEEDS TO GROW INTO THE POSITION, OR ONE WHO NEEDS MORE EXPERIENCE, OR PATIENCE FOR THAT MATTER.

Unless BIG changes on our roster take place, or a change in free agent philosophy takes place...Jason cannot be our guy.

We need a veteran under center who can win NOW with the players that we have.

The current roster does not have 3-4 years, nor does the fan base have that much patience.

Our "quarterback" would also be 29-30 in 3-4 years as well.

NEXT YEAR HAD BETTER BE THE YEAR, OR WE WASTED and I mean WASTED Santana, Clinton, Shawn, Philip, Cornelius, Fred, John, Chris , and Randy's and Mike's BEST YEARS ON A quarterback experiment.

I hate to be the one to inform you dbussjd, but those people are already a waste.

Although I think that Jason will go down as not even Jay Shroeder, it is not his fault that we don't have a GM, or a scouting philosophy that could address our teams weakness's

Belfast...I mean Ireland2...I could be persuaded to agree. With Jason on the roster they are "already a waste."

The experiment is on the lines, dbussjd. JC is good enough, but unless the O-line and can do a better job opening up running lanes and protecting whoever happens to be QB....