ufb...snyderrato is going to blow up a decent team.

Please tell me Snyder is not going to blow off Grilliams for a guy who hasn't had a HC job in 3 years....

Please Snyder. Do Not Sign Fassel.

Give GWILL a chance!!!!!!!!!

2nd i think. Please tell me this is not true. Why would be want Fissle for a head coach. Synder is really a clown. Why would you want to fire Al when his offense is proven. I think he should at least give him 1 more year to prove himself

:(

We don't need a fossil.

Did Dan Snyder check with the Ravens? Does he remember that Billick had to step in and fire Fassel so that the Ravens offense could finally score some points? What a hugh mistake that will be if he hires Fassel instead of giving Gregg and team/coaches continuity a chance!!!!!!!!!!!

[reposted]
Very well, gregmarino, for you I will.

He's visiting DC the weekend of the Super Bowl so if he crosses into obnoxious during the visit, I'll be sure to describe to him exactly how I want to see Tom Brady, Teddy Bruschi, Junior Seau and the Belicheat himself bawling like babies who dropped their pacifiers.

Wow. That's so...

anti-climactic

I say go with Williams. Fassel never impressed me all that much with the G-Men.

This had better not be true...

What the heck is so special about Fassel anyway? Is it because he has a rare tie on his resume?

Youre a real piece of shti Synder...

I don't like this at all...

This is sooo f'in random...

What! Is it pronounced Fissle or Fossil?
I don't want to get this wrong later and sound like a dork.

If he brings in Fassel as the HC I am done with the Dan. He just don't get it and why would Coach Joe want anything to do with this clown.

It's terrible! He has beautiful eyes and his hair smells like cinnamon!

This really ruins my day why the heck would dan want snyder he hasnt done nething in bmore and now we might be set back three years so much for continuity

Either Gibbs is coming back after all, or it is Dick Vermeil.

Damn JKC and that trust!

You can't spell Fassel without ASS...

FASSEL?! You have to got to be kidding me! If Gregg Williams isn't the next coach of the Redskins then we might as well abandon ship b/c it will be at least 10+ years before we reach the playoffs again.

This would be even dumber than the Spurrier move (b/c Snyder got rid of a good NFL coach for a stud college coach in Spurrier).

To not hire Williams would be mean a total gutting of the coaching staff and team! Gregg Williams has paid his dues and EARNED the right to be our coach. WE WANT GREGG WILLIAMS AND ONLY GREGG WILLIAMS!

I feel sick.

Wow...just, wow.

Popsicles, anyone?

Decided to come in the office for a minute today and all I can say is WTF!!!??? Fossil???

Watch ole Danny Boy F this up and leave GG hanging. GG goes somewhere else and has great success...

I know I'm jumping the gun on this, but I DO NOT LIKE THE WAY THIS IS TURNING... I don't understand Dan's logic. GG must not be getting this job at this point, unless it happens today or tomorrow. GG is done.

Thanks Redskirt, I appreciate that.

This Jim Fassell thing has made me throw up in my mouth a little...can't help but think that GWilliams could possibly have a little Billy B in him. D-Coordinator, failed in his first coaching go-round...ugh...

I'm still holding out for my previous hypothesis... cloning Lombardi's DNA to resurrect the Legend that should have led a Redskins Dynasty in the early 70s.

How is Fossil a big name? How is that blow-away? Splash? We've waited (impatiently) for some progress and this is what we get?

Sort of like Finding out Maggie Simspon shot Mr. Burns. Anti-climatic.

If Gibbs is supposedly involved in the "process," why in the hell would he support bringing in Fassell?

this would really make us a laughing stock, and make the Gibbs 2.0 era 4 years wasted away.

next season, all we will hear is how the Redskins threw Williams to the curb for a re-tread like Fassell who HCing a mediocre team at best.

u got to be kidding me!

Is this maybe a little bit what Cowboys fans felt like when the totally underwhelming Wade Phillips came up as a possible successor to Parcells, a great coach who had restored some quality and dignity to a franchise which had been adrift for some time after its height of glory??

Nobody outunderwhelms Jim Fassel.

Well, if this happens then its time to get like the bungles or the brownies. Stop buying tickets, stop paying danny and he will have to sell eventually.

I have ignored the recent emails for season tickets saying my waitlist number has been called (3 years in a row now, isnt that amazing). I cant ignore my team, but I wont pay Danny any more money. No jerseys, no tickets, no beers no hotdogs.

Fassel sucks..
time to update the coach tracker

Fassel did manage to take a Giants team to the super bowl that had kerry collins at QB, Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard as WRs, and Tiki Barber at RB (during his unproductive, 3 fumbles per game tenure). It's not like he was underachieving with an uber-talented team.

What a crock of horsecrap. If Snyder hires this guy, I'm not spending a dime on the Skins this season. What a JOKE!

Posted earlier today around 9:00AM

http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/01/22/fassel-sightingsounding/

It can't be true. Fassel isn't even on the wapo coaching chart!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/interactives/coachsearch/

Really, does anyone think this franchise will ever be competitive so long as this management structure is in place? The coach is irrelevant. Mediocrity is the operative word.

Fitting that Fassel would return to the East Coast branch of the team that made him famous.

I certainly never understood all the fawning over GG, but I really don't get this selection. Maybe Fassel is so hard up for a football job that he's willing to surrender nearly all decision making to "Mr." Snyder and his racquetball partner.

I think #21 would want Double G as the next head coach as well. The Snyd is a MOron!!

NOOOOO!!!!

You can't spell Fassel without ASS...

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2008 12:09 PM

FASSEL STINKS!

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Djim%2Bfassel%26ei%3DUTF-8%26ni%3D18%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26b%3D55&w=300&h=417&imgurl=www.newsday.com%2Fmedia%2Fphoto%2F2002-10%2F5192597.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsday.com%2Fsports%2Ffootball%2Fgiants%2Fny-giants1029pg%2C0%2C5956039.photogallery%3Findex%3D3&size=19.8kB&name=5192597.jpg&p=jim+fassel&type=jpeg&no=67&tt=180&oid=6147d3a89840c530&ei=UTF-8

Fassel! Jesus! I mean who would want a man who took a mediocre at best team to the superbowl! I would much rather have a person who has been a head coach before and lost!

What could be worse than a Superbowl head coach! Look out everyone, THE SKY IS FALLING!

Unbelievable - what on earth could he have said in his interviews that would elevate him to leading candidate? I don't get it.

I guess I'm not intelligent enough to understand the logic behind something like this.

Williams - been with the team the last 4 years, knows the players, culture, etc at Redskins Park, has the backing of the players, and would provide continuity, which this team is sorely lacking.

Fassel - hasn't coached in 3 years.

Someone help me out with this?

Fassel as OC, Schwartz as DC, Double-G as HC.
You heard it here first.
I just can't believe even Dan Snyder would hand the Skins over to a guy who 4 years ago was running a Quizno's (Fassel).

Ho-Ho-Kus in the House!

Aaaaaaaaaaaargh. Please tell me this is some kind of bad dream.

If Williams doesn't get the job, I'm going to be ill. I also heard that Snyder and Cerrato don't like Saunders, either. I guess they missed all those games where Todd Collins made Sunders' offense look like one of the most effective in the league, even in adverse conditions.

Seriously: no Williams = another step backwards in the Redskins' return to consistent respectability. Keep the same coaches/coordinators in place for more than 3 years, and maybe some permanent progress will be made! Please?

There is alot history here.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E5D81F31F93AA35752C0A9629C8B63

I just bought my Sean Taylor Pro-Bowl jersey... does Danny get any of that money? That's the last jersey I will ever buy.

No Fassel...

Listen, the sky may be falling. This is a joke. Fassell donesn't get any benefit of the doubt from me, nor should he. He's been fired from his last two gigs and KC just denied him the OC position. I can't believe this...

I'm beyond trying to understand Snyder at this point, or predict his actions.

Whatever happens, we'll SJK about it but ultimately suck it up and do everything we've always done as fans.

That being said... (a la Kyle in South Park's episode about 9/11 conspiracy theorists) "Fassel? Really?? Reeeally???"

HIRE GREEG WILLIAMS...nobody wants fassel . After everything that happened this past year you have to hire gregg williams. there is no other choice. Hire fassel as the offensive cordinator if u want get rid of al but make greeg the head coach NOW

Why does everyone assume Flapjacks is such a great coach? It's like saying because you can fix cars you can fix airplanes. Running a Defense doesn't mean you can run a team.

HIRE GREEG WILLIAMS...nobody wants fassel . After everything that happened this past year you have to hire gregg williams. there is no other choice. Hire fassel as the offensive cordinator if u want get rid of al but make greeg the head coach NOW

Sams3,

the word is continuity. A team headed in the right direction, coming off an improbable season with serious emotional stresses does not need turn over. It needs stability.

Hey, look, we brought in a 3 time superbowl winner, we should win one right? Heard it, lived it, it didnt happen that way... but it could continue what that 3 time winning SB coach established.

I think everyone needs to settle down a bit. This is a long term hiring, not a short fix. Bill Callahan was a great hire for continuity when the Raiders lost Gruden, and he produced very quickly for them, taking them to the super bowl in his first year. He wasn't the long term solution, though, and look at the shape that franchise has been in since that season.

I'm not advocating Fassel nor am I bashing GG. In fact, I'm 100% in favor of GG. I'm just saying this isn't as simple as continuity.

Fassel was fired because he was the scape goat on a team with 0 talent on offense.

Dan really likes Jim.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9905E2D61F3EF931A35752C0A9629C8B63

After the Ravens let him go, guess what, they kept losing.

Well, the "culture" of the last 4 years has been offensive ineptitude, squandered talent, poor coaching, mixed record on personnel selection, and a 31-36 record. Granted, 2 playoff appearances out of 4 years is more than before, but the team's advancing age and mediocre performance are hardly indicative of "the right direction".

That said, GG is a good coach who has a good outlook and philosophy and would be a fine selection for the team. Note that with the exception of Heyer, all of the team's young, up and coming, discovered at the dredges of the draft and depth chart talent is on defense. GG knows what he's doing. But he isn't the only highly qualified choice, and the teeth gnashing by fans in that regard is comical.

Fassel, on the other hand, is the out of left field water boy that will not question "Mr." Snyder's meddling. He's Norv 2.0. A bad choice for head coach or offensive coordinator, hands down.

Fassel seems like an uninspired choice. Guess Snyder hasn't forgiven Double G for that whole archibingus fiasco.

Diddy - I'll take a popsicle - got any tequila spiked ones?

Zebraskins,

I'm not for or against Fassel or Williams, I just don't understand why everyone is acting like it woudl be insane to hire a proven coach?

People are acting like Synder is about to hire Richard Simmons to run the team.

I thought Snyder at least knew how to sell tickets and merchandise. If you're not going with GW, who makes sense, then choose someone flashy and exciting. Fassel is boring and a mistake.

If he's so great, why isn't anyone else interviewing him. I think the Falcons are waiting to see if we dump Williams so they can get him.

Snyder, please, hire someone decent. My enthusiasm for the 'Skins had waned in the face of real life until Joe came back.

Callahan should have never been a head coach psp.. he couldnt even hack it at Nebraska.

GG has been a head coach and will be a highly sought after one if we dont keep him.

And I dont care where Fassel was or where he was fired from.... anyone from outside the org is a bad idea b/c of CONTIUNITY, the same players in the same schemes knowing whats in store for them lets them focus on their primary objective - football.

And please stop using the cowpies as an example. Their talent got them as far as they went this year, their head coach did not.

Dude.

Lets hire both as co-head coach and call it Fasseljacks.

When this is all said and done, someone needs to go back through the archives and find the people who claimed to be "inside sources" and rate their accuracy.

I remember there was one dude who said that GG had worn out his welcome with "Mr." Snyder with his arrogance. Something about undermining St. Joe with the players, etc.

I say "someone" because in a few minutes I'm about to be filthy rich from selling popsicles at the edge of the cliff and will retire to Sydney where I will spend the last 50 years of my life eating surf and turf at Manly Beach with a bevy of bikini-clad Aussie chicks.

I think lots of folks are getting it:

GG - HC
Fassel - OC
Saunders - Gone

GG is too quiet to not have the job.

richard simmons would be better than fASSell!! by far!

Posted earlier today around 9:00AM

http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/01/22/fassel-sightingsounding/

Posted by: skins.sox01 | January 22, 2008 12:15 PM
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That part in the article about control is perfect. I was just going to mention that perhaps that's why they're looking at a washup instead of a strong GGW. This sucks.

It should be Fassel for one depressing reason. If Snyder hires Williams, he's going to have him on the shortest leash ever. He'll be lucky to last a year. Fassel, on the other hand, will be such a panned hire that Snyder will give him time to prove himself.

Bottom line here is that Fassel is a good coach ( one Super Bowl, three playoffs) and he is desperate to get back in the league.

He'll let Danny play GM - no problem.

He will also be fired after two seasons. Write it down.

Fassel is a stiff. I just can't imagine Snyder getting up at a pres conference after hiring Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs, to announce that Jim Fassel is the new HC of the Washington Redskins. What an absolute dud. Even though Wade Phillips was a dud, at least he was currently working as a highly succesful DC. Fassel got fired from the Ravens, our red-headed step-sister from up the road. Maybe Danny thinks this is him showing maturity by not chasing the biggest name. Or maybe he wants to hire a guy he can fire in a year when he goes after Cowher.

I'd rather have Tom Cruise coaching the team.

Whoever is the coach will be on the hot seat the minute Bill Cowher is done watching girls basketball. That is an iron clad, 100% guarantee.

This is old news. It was just confirmed by JLaC today, that's all.

I posted a Chris Mortenson Report that states the same exact thing.

Calm down people. I am at the Helm of the GG HC ship and we are still on the right path. Stop jumping and trust that Dan will make the right decision in making GG the head coach and Fossil the new OC.....

Richard Simmons pre-game speech -

Ready!! OK! Beat that team, sack that guy, grabs those ballsssss!!! C'On everybody!! You two Double G, shake those man-boobs!! YAHHHHH!!!!

What's taking the story so long to be posted? JLC typos? 8-)

Even the thought of Jim Fassel coming to coach the Redskins is a nightmare on the level of the last day in Jonestown- somebody pass the Flavor-aid!

From espn.com:

Jim Fassel, the last coach to take the New York Giants to a Super Bowl, had a second interview with Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder on Tuesday, a source close to the situation told ESPN.

Fassel appears to be emerging as a serious candidate to replace Joe Gibbs as Redskins head coach. He could be considered for the offensive coordinator's job, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen, although Snyder and Fassel did not discuss that possibility Tuesday.

Funny how everyone breaks the news at the same time....

Skins' mystery coaching candidate revealed
By Jay Glazer
Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider.

Updated: January 22, 2008, 11:29 AM EST

Two days after FOXSports reported a mystery candidate in Washington, his identity can now be revealed.

Sources say former Giants head coach Jim Fassel on Monday conducted his second interview for the Redskins head coaching job.

Fassel originally interviewed a couple weeks ago when team brass flew to Arizona. At the time, it was incorrectly reported the Redskins contingent flew there to interview Cardinals assistant Russ Grimm, when in fact Fassel was their target.

At this point, Fassel and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams are in the running. Fassel was heavily liked by owner Dan Snyder the last time the Redskins had a vacancy and may have gotten the job had Joe Gibbs not come out of retirement.

The players clearly want Williams, but Snyder has yet to pull the trigger and, in fact, was even dabbling with bringing in Buccaneers defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin for the defensive coordinator post before Kiffin re-upped in Tampa.

Fassel had a 58-53-1 record in seven seasons with the Giants. He was 2-3 in the postseason.

Read this article at:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7706192 click to print this page

Well if he choses Fassel as HC then I guess they'll be blowing up the entire coaching staff. What fun.

4th, you're asking for calm?!?!?! At a time like this!?!?!?!? This isn't like the run up to a needless war! This isn't like a natural disaster the likes of which the country hasn't seen in 40 years! This isn't like corporate malfeasance in the Fortune 100! This isn't like rampant cronyism at all levels of government!

This is, like, ten thousand times more important!

Calm!?!?!?!

No washups!

The key inside sources thru this whole mess were Redskins mngmt. I'm sure Cerrato and Swanson were dropping calls left and right...

They were playing with JLC et. al. - managing the message.

Honestly, who else would know Danny's every move the last two weeks?

No Fassel!

i'm perfectly calm dude.

JLC -- good reporting, but there is an extra word in the story:

Fassel, who was on the verge of getting the Redskins' job in 2004 before Snyder landed finalized a deal with Joe Gibbs, was impressive in his interviews at that time and has heavy support this time.

Here's hoping Fassel landed safely in Arizona and will spend many happy months there.

Flag on the play

False Start on Zebra, 5 yards.

Fassel hasnt been hired yet, but if he is, then you will hear it.

Fassel did a good job as Head Coach of the Giants. He was made the scapegoat by his buddy in Baltimore after being given a short time to try to resurrect a dead offense. Hiring him would not be the end of the world many are making it out to be.

Now I understand why The Redskins keep this all so hush-hush, fans get so nasty when the team doesn't go after the sexy pick.

I still think it's Williams, Fossil will be the OC.

How I read the current situation...

JLaC could not confirm because the direct sources (Fassel's agent, Fassel, and the redskins) would not comment directly on the meeting. JLaC basically said that in the earlier post today.

Now all of a sudden after that post, the source, his agent, figured the cat is already out of the bag and decided to admit was already known by the public.

Now, in no way does this make Fassel the leading canidate. If Snyder likes him that much, than I wouldn't be suprised if they made him Asst HC/Offense. But, to keep continuity, GG will be the HC.

No one likes Saunders, save for Todd Collins, so it owuld be easier to get rid of him.......

I still think I want Gregg to get the job, and I am encouraged about Saunders's offense. Still, I'm not fool enough to think I really know what they should do. Just because this team made the playoffs does not mean they are close to being a superbowl contender. I feel like they are close, but they might not be. If Snyder feels like they are not close (and hopefully he is taking honest advice from Gibbs on that question) then the right decision might be to blow it up and start over.

Guess the story is out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012201300.html

the giants just won the nfc title. nobody can say the skins aren't close to a super bowl appearance.

Calmer than you are.

Fassel seems like a guy who had job once. With the benefit of hindsight, maybe Billick should have lost his job earlier.

Anyway, I'm willing to give the guy another chance at HC ... just like I'm willing to give Grilliams another chance.

I'd prefer Williams just b/c I know more about him ... but neither guy could replace Joe Gibbs, esp. in terms of coachspeak (plus cackle).

Whenever he talks, Williams sounds real smart (smarter than Billick anyway, who according to conventional wisdom is super smart).

What says that Williams really would leave if he doesn't get HC job? As a DC, he makes more money than a lot of head coaches around the league. Who knows what kind of relationship he has with Fassel (maybe they already have a relationship, they seem to be around the same vintage). Fassel is an O-side guy, so the friction wouldn't seem to present too much fire to make a spark. Would Saunders stay if Fassel came? These are all interesting questions, so I'm not yet willing to buy the popsicle.

If GG weren't the guy, don't you think his name would have been floated in, at least, the Atlanta job? The fact that GG has received nary a mention anywhere else should tell you tea leaf readers everything you need to know...

That said, I have popsicles to sell. Start panicking!

I think Fassel is our our next OC. I think for once Snyder chooose continuity...but he seems to have had it with weird Al. If you can only make your offense work with a 8-9 year veteran QB in your system then its a problem.

PDiddy, one lemon popsicle to go please.

good stuff diddy! If we could surgicaly clone and implant interest in the Skins to other issues we might have a good country!

I will volunteer to be the lab rat!

Did my comments here just mean I helped the terrorists?

The other thing I meant to say is that I hope that the team doesn't announce the new head coach choice until next week AT THE EARLIEST ... and that they announce some changes in the decision-making people for personnel first. I gotta say that that fake post about Jimmy Johnson as team president pleased me, if only in fraudulently and briefly assuaging my fears re: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Well this is the ist bit of real news we've had in days. I would rather have GW as the coach on fassle as a cord. I could live with fassel as the coach and GW as the def cord. BUt I think has demonstrated too much just to be tossed out now. And in response to why has GW's name not turned up for any other job. I think all the other teams just sort of assumed that he would be our next coach. I'b be surprised if he was not corted by other teams if he didn't get this job... And he is under contract so other teams have to be given permission to talk to him.

I still think all of this is very wrong.

So we could be potentially, blowing up our entire coaching staff, defensive scheme, offensive scheme, stability, team confidnence and willingness to buy into a system, and a solid backup QB.

I'm all for JC being the top QB again, but don't forget Todd Collins was a huge part of this teams success this year due to his vaast knowledge and familiarity with the offense. In the NFL your only one play away from losing your starting QB, especially with our old O-Line....

The list of negative effects that need to be solved and overcome is enormous...

Seriously, What the F is going on...

Is Pepper Rodgers available? sound familiar?

I am simply beside myself!!! This is horrible news! I'm ready to march down to Redkins Park and picket for Snyder to sell the team (where are you, Ricky Bobby?)!!!!

We need an owner that CARES!!!!

Fassel? Fassel? I don't get it, it's a joke right?

god help us

I mean GW has demonstrated too much to be tossed out now. You have to keep him with the skins in some capacity if at all possible. But from Snyders view, if he quits you don't have to pay him his future salary.

That'd be something. Fassel had some success with the Giants, but I'm just not so sure about him as head coach anymore. I like Gregg Williams, but it's possible he is not a good head coach, you certainly don't want to make a mistake. Talk to as many people as possible by all means to make a good decision, but I don't see Fassel as a top talent.

As far as Fassell being the OC, sounds like a long shot:

"An offensive coach with experience mentoring young quarterbacks, Fassel is not interviewing for an offensive position with Washington, according to NFL sources, but solely the head coaching job (although the team could approach Fassel or other candidates to bolster the staff should Snyder opt to give Williams the job")

Not even Ron Burgandy can cheer me up at this point, although it does help...

Ron Burgundy: Hey Garth! How's the divorce?

Garth Holliday: Oh, not so good... I'll probably never see my kids again...

Ron Burgundy: FAN-tastic.

AGH!!! I started to become VERY concerned about this this morning - and was on an airplane all morning - and made my fiance check washpost.com as soon as I landed to make sure that Fassel wasn't named the new coach this morning. Was fine and then came into the office to THIS?!!? I think this is a TERRIBLE idea!

Let me remind you Lisa that I am still pooling money together to buy the team from Mr. Snyder... I am still a few 100 million short, but I am confident that people will get on board here.

The Washington Dorfs will happen. It is my dream!

PDiddy -- was thinking the exact same thing. Why is there no interest in GG from other teams. GG has led a top defense and the players rally behind him and are excited to be playing for him. He has prior experience and did poorly with poor talent. He has had the opportunity to learn with very experienced coaches and leaders including Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, Joe Bugel, etc. He has had to deal with the incredibly difficult process involving Sean Taylor. \

Its a pretty good resume and if the Skins weren't ready to pull the trigger, I can't imagine other teams wouldn't be interested.

With the players almost universally expressing their support for Wms and Sndrs, there's a danger that the players will react negatively. The sense of togetherness could be lost. And if the players feel they have been let down by the decision they could refuse to renegotiate their contracts. The Skins in fact rely on players restructuring every year, and this is no different with the team 20M over the cap for 2008. So if this happens a lot of big name players are going to have to be let go and they'll have to spend the year with a lot of dead money. Well, if they don't trade it at least they'll have a high draft pick in 2009.

There's no interest in Gregg Wms from other teams because til today everyone has assumed he'd be the Skins' HC.

980 just reported that Gregg Williams lack of a relationship with Cerrato (Cerrato for crying out loud!!!) leads to his lack of support from Snyder for the HC position.

Please! Snyder is basing his decision on Cerrato???! Please Sweet Jesus, help us!

Diddy, can you comp Lisa a popsickle?

Jim Fassel has some Joe Gibbs in him, only on a smaller scale.

This from Wikipedia: "In 2004 and 2005, Jim and Kitty Fassel owned a Quiznos restaurant in Denville, New Jersey. Their son Brian was in charge of day to day operations."

Just signed on to Loseable Type and noticed that we have a 150,000th poster! Congrats, one and all.
It was this one:
PDiddy -- was thinking the exact same thing. Why is there no interest in GG from other teams. GG has led a top defense and the players rally behind him and are excited to be playing for him. He has prior experience and did poorly with poor talent. He has had the opportunity to learn with very experienced coaches and leaders including Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, Joe Bugel, etc. He has had to deal with the incredibly difficult process involving Sean Taylor. \

Its a pretty good resume and if the Skins weren't ready to pull the trigger, I can't imagine other teams wouldn't be interested.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2008 12:59 PM

SweetJesus here, how can I be of assitance

I'M THE BEST. So, do I win a Quiznos sub from the Fassel's?

How can Gibbs be on board with this?????

disinformation people! they're trying to throw everybody off the scent of what's really going on.
well, i'm hoping that is the case!

zcezcest1 => now the 150,000th poster => thinking of changing my name to zcezcest150,000. except I'm too lazy.

Lisa, someone said GG undermined Gibbs last year.

I do recall certain situations where GG said something and then had to backtrack.

The Time Out seems to pop to mind.

Lisa, for what it's worth the plane trackers reported that Joe Gibbs' plane left for NC earlier today. Suggests that he's out of here.

Oh, it was the 10 men on Defense that Gibbs did not know about and GG originally said he knew about it.

Then later he said it was his fault for not telling Coach.

zcezcest1,
Congratulations!
And don't forget to thank the Academy.

Bad news Burgundy, decision looms

zilla,

...rosebud...

Anyone got $20K-$30K laying around (Dorf? for expenses?)?

Maybe we can get Fassel to do a guest blog up here.

http://www.allamericanspeakers.com/speakerbio/Jim_Fassel.php

I think other teams would surely be interested in GG if he doesn't get the Skins gig...

It is probably a combination of their opinion that he is a leading candidate to get the Skins job and a strategic move to not contact him and create anymore hoopla, interest hype and or hype about him that would convinve Dan to hire him if he's undecided...

By contacting the skins to interview him for another opening doesn't that thereby make him seem more valuable or sought after to the skins driving home the fact that he should be their man...

Or on the otherhand, maybe Atlanta uses this strategy against the Skins to force their hand if they fear they'll be competing for Spagnoulo following the Super Bowl. Why not bring in GG for a couple of interviews to scare the Skins...

Just some thoughts that popped into my head about the strategic thought process in all of this... Maybe they're not smart enough to think this way or I am too dumb and speculating way too much...

Lisa, for what it's worth the plane trackers reported that Joe Gibbs' plane left for NC earlier today. Suggests that he's out of here.

Posted by: Burgundy | January 22, 2008 01:09 PM

Was it Gibbs or Redskins1 going to meet with the chin?

waiting for a Fassell announcement/ press conference is like bracing for a kick to the groin!!

you know it's coming, and the pain will be insurmountable!

Lisa,

I'm still holding out hope. I still can't believe he would go against the wishes and advice of his personal adviser. If he does, I'm right down there picketing with you. Maybe we can have our dinner at the protest?

A while back, I was asking around up here to see if someone wanted to try and define "tall, possession-type receiver." No takers. Anyway, I found this on the interwebgoogles. After Sunday night, I would have thought they would have included a picture of Plaxico Burress (who seemed to absord some real jawbreakers and still hang onto the ball ... was he on fire or what?).

Possession receiver: Receiver who is used frequently to gain the third-down yardage needed to get a first down thereby enabling his team to retain possession of the ball for another series; most commonly tight end, wings, and slot backs; the name assumes that the yardage needed is relatively short; in 3rd-&-long situations, there is no special name for the players who are used to gain the needed yardage for a first down.

[btw: this definition helped me not at all]

If he goes with Fassel make room RB. I will not have one nice thing to say about the Dan ever!

on the issue of GG not interviewing elsewhere, JLC keeps reporting that he's not been able to contact GG and flapjacks won't return any messages. for all we know, he could've been getting interview offers from all over the place, and opted to rebuff them.

St. Joe lives in NC with his racing team. He's "outta here" in the sense that his office is cleaned out and he's gone.

I don't do comps. I'm a capitalist, not a social worker.

zcezcest1, don't forget to thank me. It was my inspiring post that inspired you to post your inspiring post, thus inspiring us all to buy popsicles and jump off the cliff.

The tracker will need to be updated.

Fassel should just dissolve into place just below Williams and I think that on mouse-over, the little Fassel head should emit a Howard Dean-like groaning/cheer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/interactives/coachsearch/

"waiting for a Fassell announcement/ press conference is like bracing for a kick to the groin!! you know it's coming, and the pain will be insurmountable!"

Posted by: bgmoneym20 | January 22, 2008 01:15 PM

Unless its Lawrence Tynes doing the kicking ... in which case it most likely will be on the outside of your right knee.

I wrote an embittered post about being 149,999 and Cindy rigging the #s because I chose an eagles girl over her.

Losable Type?

CindyGate?

I will not rest until the truth is exposed.

Peter:"Are you sure this is completely necessary?"

Patches:"NECESSARY?! Is is necessary for me to drink my own urine?"

Peter:"Probably not."

Patches:"No. But I do it anyway because it's sterile and like the taste."

Unless its Lawrence Tynes doing the kicking ... in which case it most likely will be on the outside of your right knee.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2008 01:19 PM

it would be fitting for a Giants' player to kick me in the knee and dump their old sub-500 coach on me... brutal

I'd like to thank the Academy, the Voters, All MY Fans, Cindy, Jasno (whoever that is) and those creepy people that tabulate stuff like this. But most of all, I'd like to thank the 149,999 ordinary working class folks who helped ME on MY way to MY dubious accomplishment. To all of you, you are like the Hogs, and to RI nation, you know that is the kindest all compliments.

I think if Williams were interviewing, one of the big media outlets would have had something on it, either ESPN, FoxSports, someone would have put it out there.

This just makes no sense. Its so friggin frustrating....

Pdiddy, was that you headed off to Manly Beach with the popsicles?

I have no problem with the wait. It's what he should do. Snyder should exercise due diligence for a coach. I have no problems with Williams or Fassel. I keep hearing people talk about "continuity". I am a hardcore Redskins fan, but this team has won nothing. Yes we have a good core of players, but some of you are overreacting if a new coach comes in. There's no way one coach could dismantle and build a team in the salary cap era.

Seriously, if it is Fassel, I will drive down from New York just to protest this hiring. All the talk about how much Snyder had grown under the influence of Gibbs is absolutely preposterous. This search should have been over a week ago with Gregg as the coach. No one is going to want to play or work for this organization if he throws Gregg under the bus like this. UGH. He's becoming as bad as Peter Angelos.

we're so screwed...

I just hope jasno asks in the press conference on how he could do this after every player wanted williams and every fan wanted williams and this team is so close yet he wants to start from scratch with a coach who has failed at his last stops?

when this goes down we should all go to ashburn and protest

maybe we could bring Dexter Manly in as the next Def cord.

I'll take a popsicle....make it cherry cyanide please....

I'm sure Williams realises that to show even the tiniest interest in another position is to disqualify himself from the Skins HC chase (Danny doesn't do disloyalty).

I'm equally sure that Snyder will happily run out the clock on any opportunities for Williams elsewhere by delaying any annoucnement until he can't go anywhere else (Williams is still under contract so he can't go anywhere else except as an HC). Doing that guarantees 'continuity' on Defense at least.

Pure speculatyion on my part, but there's definitely something of the Macchiavelli about Mr Snyder, and this would fit his MO beautifully.

I have to comment on my new Washington Redskins trivia desk calender... this week appears to be Troy Vincent week and peeking ahead to next week its Jeff Posey week. I can't wait til May when its Chris Cooley week!

Seriously, couldn't they have mixed it up a bit? I'm tired of reading about Troy Vincent. I can't say I'm too excited about Posey starting my weekend off this Friday. SHABINGUS!

Cerrato - Danny Boy, I dropped Fassell's name to the media folks this morning. They think we were meeting with him yesterday when we were actually here at the Park wit our thumbs up are a$$es.

Snyder - Great job Vinny! Now are plan is in motion...

Cerrato - Yah! So what is the plan?

Snyder - Don't know, Vinny. That's the magic of it all... Get Williams in here again for a 5th interview.

Cerrato - Are you going to give it to Gregg?

Snyder - Of course not, that would be too easy.

Cerrato - Fassell?

Snyder - No, come on Vinny, have some creativity?

Cerrato - I'm confused Master.

Snyder - You, Vinny!! You WILL be Coach!!
_____________________________________

And then I wake up in a cold sweat...

If Synder hires Fassel...we take a Giant step backwards.

What a terrible owner.

Napolean and Napolean's little toady want to be involved in the day to day. Maybe Gregg doesn't want to eat fire in the cirucs and maybe Fassel is willing to work with it because he's desperate to get back into coaching?

If those 2 morons flat out ignore the players, coaches, fans, and his own personal adviser's (Joe Gibbs) wishes, just so he and Toady can remain in the war room on draft day and negotiate contracts, I will be floored. They can't be that stupid, can they?

now that is funny bgmoney. I really needed a laugh.

bgmoneym20, your dialogue for Vinny and Dan reads like an episode of Pinky and the Brain!

Which means it's probably far too close to reality for comfort...

Pdiddy, was that you headed off to Manly Beach with the popsicles?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2008 01:25 PM

Why would he leave now? If they hire Fassel he's got a whole offseason to cater to angst-ridden skins fans.

Joe Gibbs sucks, for the second time he leaves a team in a chaotic stage. His egotistical self-interest is causing a lot headaches to the guys who supported him during his tenure as a a head-coach. The guy assumes no responsibility and does not care what happens to the staff that worked so hard for him while he took the glory. AGAIN. JOE GIBBS SUCKS.

Does anyone think that possibly, Fassel might just be our next QB coach? I dont think Snyder is THAT stupid to hire an out of work ex-HC/OC to be our next HC....but its not out of the relm of possibility. So i see it like this

GG--HC

that swartz dude--DC

Saunders--OC

Fassel--QB coach/offensive assistant

Anyone else ever get the feeling that the Danny and Vinny Barbarino are like the two Guiness commercial guys . . ..
Danny says, "Hmmm, what about Jim Fassel?"

Barbarino says, "Brilliant!"

And then things get bad from there. Very bad.

There is a reason players and fans aren't in the business of making front office decisions!
Vinny and Matt Millen.

GW will leave Washington to become a head coach some where else, return to Washington as the opposing head coach and will unleash a fury worse than the 52-7 thrashing we took in New England, then Mr. Snyder is going to say "DANG" I wish I would have kept him. In years to follow GW becomes a Bill Belicheek 2.0 and the Redskins are still the door mats of the NFL. How 'bout dem apples!!! We suck again!
Im sick!

rb, my thoughts exactly.

If they're so narcissistic that they can't put aside their own desires to be in the spotlight, and because of that desire, they bring the team down, I can't be party to this, I cannot follow this team if they cannot make forward progress....there is no such thing as being stagnant, because while we might thing they're being stagnant, the rest of the league is moving forward....

They can't be that stupid, can they?

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 22, 2008 01:33 PM

RB- Trust me, the burning of the ticket renewal invoice is a very liberating experience!

wow optia... just wow.

Maybe this was all a part of the plan Vinny mentioned 7 years ago, when he mocked the loyal fans of this team?

Jasno, just once, I'd love for somebody to ask that freak about this plan...

opita - you bite your tongue! joe gibbs is not a cooc! he is a brave and a decent man!

seriously, gibbs can't help that this team has a control freak, egotistical owner. there would be absolutely nothing different if he opted to finish his contract out. we would have been in this exact position a year from now.

You're right, opita. What kind of diabetic near-septuagenarian with a large family that he never gets to see, including a grandson fighting leukemia, decides that being there for his family is more important than coaching a football team, even though he loves coaching? I mean, what kind of a selfish pr1ck does a thing like that?

4-12,

Maybe I won't be the only one to burn my invoice this year, huh? Did you actually burn yours or wipe your butt with it?

A new sighting of a 'JOE GIBBS SUCKS' guy, I thought they were extinct?

Presumably Opita's grandad would have posted something like "VINCE LOMBARDI SUCKS. He built our hopes up with that 1969 season and then went and died on us in 1970, leaving us...." and so on and so forth, like such as, maps.

Fin loseable type;

Uh-oh, that will draw the ire

I will simply say, falg on the play... oh wait, you bumped a ref, your ejected optia

And re: Fassel -- of course! Fassel! It's so obvious! If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

That's step one of Danny's 10-step plan for success.

Step two is, "If the fans ain't broke, you're not charging enough."

I think the real problem is the influence of Vinny Cerrato. Who cares who has a "good relationship" with Cerrato or not -get rid of Cerrato, Danny Boy!! Is Bobby Beathard still available to come in as GM?

Gibbs has left the building....

RB- Shredder, not Sh!tter

Well this should send us over 150k.

I feel sick. Fassel has to be the new OC after they fire Wierd Al, right?

Great Skins coaches succeeded by their assts:

Vince Lombardi (7-5-2) to Bill Austin (6-8)
George Allen (9-5) to Jack Pardee (8-8)
Joe Gibbs (9-7) to Richie Petitbon (4-12)

I think it ought to be GG because the players want to play for him, his experience is pretty remarkable, the quality of the product he has put out has been high and he's gotten to learn from some great people, etc. But the history says ...

RB- Shredder, not Sh!tter

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2008 01:47 PM

But I thought that "a letter from Shredder had Splinter abducted"?

Dear 8 lbs 6 oz newborn baby Jesus in your gold plated diapers and ghost manger.

Maybe the Dan should assssk Mr. Kraft how to run a team.

GOOOOOOO PATRIOTS!!

can't someone just buy snyder a copy of madden and set it to franchise mode. then he can play GM all he wants without torturing the RI hamsters. can we make this happen?

Snyder - Now Jim, you understand that by taking this job you give up all authority a REAL head coach would usually receive in this position right?

Fassell - Sure Dan, Sure.

Snyder - Jim all we are going to ask of you is to show up on Sundays, and at the park during the week when the media is around. All you have to do is look and sound like a coach, that's it.

Cerrato - Dan, don't forget, don't forget my part!!

Snyder - Oh yah, sorry Vin. And Jim, Vinny reserves the right to go down to the field when things get tough and close, on the verge of disaster ala Jerry Jones.

Cerrato - YESSSS!!

Fassell - I understand. Where is my parking spot?

Snyder - Umm... that's another thing. Vinny gets Joe's old parking spot as part of the deal.

Vinny get Bugal to bring in some milk and cookies, would ya?

If Snyder actually makes this move, and goes with the advice of his toady over his boyhood idol and personal adviser, Joe Gibbs should disassociate himself with this idiot ASAFP. I mean, really, what would be the point of Gibbs staying on and advising this guy when he obviously doesn't listen to the first piece of advise he gives him?

I seriously can't believe this might happen. That continuity BS might have just been smoke up our behinds.

If he does go with Fassel, I hope Gregg and Al leave. Not just because it will be a slap in the face to them and the team, but because them staying (particularily Gregg) will lead to unbelievable amounts of tension and resentment. If it's Fassel, it needs to be a clean break for all involved. If either/or stay, cue the circus music. Oh wait, it's never stopped playing, has it?

JLaC, worst joke ever.

Ask Ray Lewis what he thinks of Fassel's offense.

Brian Billick AND Fassel..TOGETHER could not even get an offense going in BMORE.

Hire Casserly back, and we may forgive Snyder for the last 2 weeks of this crap.

Dorf,

I have the same calendar on my desk. and was thinking the same thing. I'm just glad I survived TJ Duckett week.

i wish they would've done the right thing and hired Williams already and start the search for the new OC. this is getting to be ridiculous. i'm sure they're being very thorough in the search, but there's only so many people out there...unless they're waiting for holmgren to resign in seattle, cowher's daughter to graduate early, or for vince lombardi to be exhumed

What Jim Fassel has been doing with himself since coaching in Baltimore ...

http://www.sonyclassics.com/artschoolconfidential/desktops/jimmy_1920.jpg

Speaking of seemingly stupid coaches, anybody else wonder why GB didn't give Buddy Ryan a field pass to the championship game so that he could punch Kevin Gilbride in the head and shut down the Giants O before it got rolling?

Adam

I don't even want fassel as the OC, let alone the HC. Has Cam Cameron signed anywhere yet? If Synder is not sold on Big Al, than why not Cameron instead of fassel.
Frustrating!

I agree 100%, bring casserly back and watch this franchise be restored to greatness

Okay, read the article. The interview was not about anything but a head coaching position. Now I really feel ill...

Two thoughts:

Are we sure JG2 is on the GG bandwagon? I'm sure they bonded in the emotional finish to the season, but GG undercut JG2 bigtime on the whole 10-men deal.

And with the premium Danny places on Danny being King of the Castle, why would we think Danny would hire someone he knows has a history of disrespecting the authority of those above him?

Fassel makes sense at this point, which I find very distressing but very logical. I think GG is primed to be a good HC, but I don't think it's possible for that to happen here.

That said, Fassel's really not a bad chice. He's got experience, and he's not getting hired just because he's the sexy pick (a la Cowher).

So I think it's time to start working on nicknames. Unfortunately Fassel's so bland and boring to me that I can't come with a thing.

So I think it's time to start working on nicknames. Unfortunately Fassel's so bland and boring to me that I can't come with a thing.

Posted by: AlanKlink | January 22, 2008 01:57 PM

How bout Ass-El????????

Who cares about the head coach!!!

Can someone explain the "cloverfield sled" comment from last night? me not get it.

Freakzilla, you bought all that sentimental crap, didn't you? How is a multimillionaire grandfather going to improve his grandsons illness by quitting his job and leaving all his support staff hanging dry? What about their families? Who would that? To quote you, "A selfish pr1ck". Get your lips off his arse and you will see things more clear. When you beging seeing him at the races, will you still feel the same?

Redcoat, you are an idiot.

It's a play on 'rosebud' from Citizen Kane isnadd...

How bout Ass-El????????

Posted by: bgmoneym20 | January 22, 2008 02:00 PM

Is that Jor-El's no-account, can't-coach-worth-a-damn brother?

opita, being called an 'idiot' by you feels like a compliment. Thankyou.

Id like to think that Snyder, being the good business man that he is, has learned from his past mistakes. I mean, odds are, he has learned a little right?......learned how to bilk the most out of the fans while still making them feel that, every year is gonna be our year.

But honestly, the way the team bonded after The Reaper got reaped, The Two Stooges have to realize that ultimately, its the players who win the games. And not letting GG be the next HC would just alienate the entire team.

Surely Joe Gibbs will hold their hands for just a little bit longer and leave the team, at least, above water.....untill Cowher comes back and Danny blows his load.

Unfortunately Fassel's so bland and boring to me that I can't come with a thing.

Funny, nor can his offenses. They're so "bland" and "boring" even Baltimore fired him.

Think I'll go throw up now; let me know when the f*ckwittery is over with.

I'm opita. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I enjoy ice cream and a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me I have an I.Q. of 48 and that I am considered mentally retarded.

opita, being called an 'idiot' by you feels like a compliment. Thankyou.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 22, 2008 02:02 PM

How did you even read his origional comment well enough to know what it meant?

I've said it before: we'll never win a Super Bowl as long as Dan Snyder owns the team. He has to be the worst owner in the league in terms of needing to be involved. It's too bad his ego is bigger than his wallet because the only people that suffer are the fans. Why hasn't Greg Williams been given the job yet? That sound you hear is me jumping ship on this team. Let's go Patriots, the team that most resembles the Redskins when Jack Kent Cooke was alive.

Freakzilla, in my last post, I meant to say: "Who would do that?" and "begin" instead of "beging".

Wow, from Bill "The Jaw" Cowher to Jim "No Chin" Fassel in one week. What next?

This head coaching reporting by the journalists is so dysfunctional it is not even funny. I cannot believe that the Washington Post can allow speculation about who is a front-runner.

Perhaps if Jason had decent relations with the Redskins he would actually get some real info. leaked to him.

Knowing what we know about Dan Snyder how could Fassell be even remotely considered for a head coaching job? Let's go through the checklist:

1. Recent history of success: no
2. Strong following of assistants that could come too: no
3. Well respected around the league: no
4. Big name, big draw, big news: no

I repeat, my sources are saying that Jimmy Johnson will be the new President of the Redskins and Greg Williams the new head coach.

ggmoney - how about Jim Facial

Redcoat, I am not surprised you take like that.

As a lifetime Redskins fan now living on the west coast, the return of Joe Gibbs gave me good reason to hang in there with this team. Hiring Greg Williams represents continuity with the tradition of this team, and he deserves a chance. Going outside and blowing up what we have now would be an insult to Williams, the rest of the coaching staff, the players, and the fans. I'd hate to see it. Don't know if I'd bother with another subscription to NFL Ticket if I had to go through that. At least it would save me money, I guess.

Could be they're thinking of Fassel as President or Director or Czar of Football Operations. I bet JLC's sources don't know for sure what he interviewed for (if he did). I'm still highly skeptical that Synder would bring in somebody from the outside as HC at this point. It's Williams.

It was easy enough sams, I paraphrased it as "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, he took my toys away!".

Family comes first. ALWAYS. No-one should ever question a man's commitment to his family. I'm no Gibbs fan but you cannot question his character.

having an involved owner is one of the best things you can have. al davis has won a sb, jerry jones has won multiple sb's. steinbrenner has won too many world series rings, and jerry buss has won his share of nba titles. involved owners are annoying because they're always at the forefront and get the brunt of blame for poor performance/decisions, but they also do everything in their power to make sure their team makes it to the top. snyder will hit the jackpot one of these times.

AKlink,

Everytime I've heard Gibby speak over the last few weeks he continues to stress the importance of continuity in this decision. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" according to Snyder, right? How is bringing in anyone other than GW going to meet the continuity guidelines Gibby and Snyder have been talking about? How would Fassel qualify as a choice that results in continuity, unless of course they brainwash Grilliams and Al to be accepting of the fact that they've privately been bashed and denied the HC job respectively?

I am seriously going to look into getting "continuity" placed on the banned word list that makes the system not accept your comment.

I've got to think that if they do bring in Fassel, the Redskins could be looking at some players who have just grown sick of this tired charade of not having more than 3-4 years of continuity, and ask to be traded. Doing something of this nature will have such a long term effect on this team. From players leaving, to rebuilding, to new offensive and defensive game plans....ugh....

opita;

quick question since you know Gibbs so well and what the rest of his staff is thinking about his reasons for retiring,... oh wait, you dont. Nevermind.

ggmoney - how about Jim Facial

Posted by: JustinBaker | January 22, 2008 02:08 PM

'Jim Facial' BRILLIANT!

ISNAD, regarding Jimmy Johnson - who are your sources, I think you are full of 'Snyder'!

Just had a thought...if they hire Fassel as the OC (which is what I think is going on here), would Fassel hire Billick as an assistant coach?

Gregmarino88 are you Redcoat? or do you belong to the same club?

"All the talk about how much Snyder had grown under the influence of Gibbs is absolutely preposterous. This search should have been over a week ago with Gregg as the coach."

Snyder did say the one thing he learned from joe gibbs was patience.

The fact that fassel is back home without a contract says it all to me. I don't get the bashing when he didn't HIRE him, he interviewed him. A re-tread who has been to the super bowl. How dare snyder do that!

Maybe fASSel can bring kerry collins and amani toomer with him...those boys are somethin' special.

optimus prime

My sources include some or all of the following:

1. Jason LaCornolio
2. My mom (watch it now)
3. Your mom
4. Dealer's mom
5. Jimmy Johnson's mom, OK..let's get off mom's because I just got off PDiddy's.
6. PDiddy's mom
7. Magic 8-ball
8. Fortune Cookie from Sam Wang's
9. End credits from Cloverfield
10. just making sh*t up....

Sorry sams, but when your owner stands up there and uses the word, funny us, we expect him to live up to said comments/promises.

I know, stupid us. Can you fathom why Danny would even say the words if he didnt intend on going that route?

Placating the masses, the coaches and players ALL of whom think it is a good idea.

Like I said before, forget the stupid word... the opposite means new offensive and defensive schemes for our players to learn instead of honing the ones they were getting good at during the last 4 games of the season.

Prime Rib

fawcett007,

Maybe we should hire you as coach and you can bring your pervious superbowl players with you?

I was a Fan of Fassel a couple years ago. My belief was that he wasn't a bad coach, he did take the giants to the Superbowl. I was disappointed until he didn't get the job until i found JJG was comming back. I have concerns about what style of offense he's going to implement. I have bad feeling he's going to run a traditional Run on first and second downs throw on third. He also didn't perform too offensivly in Baltimore.

What about CONTINUITY? Dan Snyder said he was all about continuing to build on the foundation that Gibbs had built! Potentially loosing Williams and Saunders IS NOT CONTINUITY!

Yeah, opita, I did buy all that sentimental crap.

But then again, I have a family whom I love and who loves me, and who takes precedence over trivial things like work, so I probably see things a little differently than you.

And I'm sure we will see Coach Joe at the races. I'm also sure that he'll get a full night's sleep under his own roof, in his own bed, next to his wife the rest of the week, instead of being 400 miles from home getting 3 hours of sleep on a pull-out bed in his office in Redskins Park.

sams,

this may sound like a childish response, but they (Snyder, Gibbs, etc) started it (the use of the word "continuity"), didn't they?

you don't say something like that (repeatedly), almost mocking reporters and fans who suggest they would do something different, if you're aren't going to follow through on it...

I'm still hopeful Snyder isn't this stupid and will take the advice of his personal adviser and idol.

4 years from now it will be the Washington Johnny Rockets taking the field at Six Flags Park. Nobody in the stands.

Laughing stock of the National Football League.

Opita, Redcoat is a stand up guy, who actually lends intelligent discussion to this blog.

You on the other hand, come in here with your self-promoting agenda, and generally are an idiot.

Hope that clears things up....

Oh and...

Ron Burgundy: Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?

Brick Tamland: I don't know.

Gregmarino88 are you Redcoat? or do you belong to the same club?

Posted by: opita | January 22, 2008 02:15 PM

Oh dear, you've just insulted Greg bigtime!

There is no club opita, but then maybe I don't know there is one because I'm not a member either?

Why don't you just calm down a little and join the general hoopla rather than throwing out the ad-hominem stuff? If there's room for a Fins fan (me) here, there's certainly room for your dissenting opinions too, but try to express them in a way that doesn't require abusive statements directed at people who disagree with you.

Just sayin' is all.

at some point, the coaching 'search' goes from being 'due diligence' to a rotting, vile smelling garbage thing. We have reached that tipping point.

Can't fault Danny for waiting until the Rooney Rule was satisfied with a legit guy. Or for taking a few more days to process it all. Or even taking another day or two to figure out other staff issues that may complicate things (assistants, etc). But we are passing that point now. Its starting to smell just a tiny bit. But another day or two and it'll be pretty bad.

From here on out, you might want to hold your nose.

I'd give all HC responsibilities to ManBoobs...

I'm thinking that we'll have a new coach soon. Snyder's where he wants to be, with two viable candidates (or so he would have us believe). He's got the media all lined up reporting that there are two candidates, based on "league sources." He wants the Washington Post Hottie Meter to have Fassell and Williams staring at each other on the same line. Now he can bargain with their agents for contract terms favorable for the team.

I think his biggest concern is that neither is the right guy and that he'd like to be able to fire one next year and go with the New Hot Coach. Bill Cowher or the New Big Plash.

So, what he needs is a contract with not much guaranteed money in it. It's much easier to get a contract like that when you're bargaining with two guys than when you're bargaining with one.

I have to comment on my new Washington Redskins trivia desk calender... this week appears to be Troy Vincent week and peeking ahead to next week its Jeff Posey week. I can't wait til May when its Chris Cooley week!

Seriously, couldn't they have mixed it up a bit? I'm tired of reading about Troy Vincent. I can't say I'm too excited about Posey starting my weekend off this Friday. SHABINGUS!

Posted by: Dorf | January 22, 2008 01:30 PM

Agreed, I was a little bored during TJ Duckett week too.

Zebraskins,

I understand your point, however, continuity is becoming a buzz word that every dope on this blog feels they have to use to justify an off the wall opinion.

Just like every other stupid buzz word, anyone that uses it feels their opinion instantly makes sense because of its presence. I'm not saying you are one of these people at all, in fact, I respect your posts as some of the best out there.

Half the people that use "continuity" don't even know what exactly they are advocating the continuance of.

Perhaps Gregg wanted a 4-year deal and a salary like Gibbs just walked away from and Snyder is looking for a 2-year deal at half that so he can hire "the chin" next year and only have to pay about $2M to our new "interim" coach.

Possible? Talk amongst yourselves.

I bought a cont annuity from a contannuity sales guy. Lost a bunch of money on it

understood.

And Redcoat, good for you to only slightly stooping to opita's level. Nate, you must intorduce the blog to opita, but I have the feeling he/she isnt new. (of course I havent blogged since Friday, so maybe I missed them coming around)

Danny is talking about moving the team west, to west VA that it. Then hes gonna hire Jed as the team pres. Vinny C. will move into HC. Michael Irvin is the new OC. Madden will be the new DC. Ryan leaf becomes new QB coach. Bram weinstein becomes the new team mascot. Hows that for a splash.

Okay, it's prediction time! Here's mine:

Czar of Football Ops: Fassel
HC: Williams
AHC, Defense: Schwartz
AHC, Offense: Saunders

My reasoning is that Snyder loves overabundance in everything, especially when it comes to coaching staffs. Anybody else foolish enough to jump in here?

Hats off to opita for staking out an awfully lonely position up here, with some strange, angry bashing of the sacredest cow we have, Coach Gibbs. And for following it up by bashing other commenters up here. Great start, dude! Looking forward to your thoughtful, provocative, entertaining contributions over the rest of the offseason!

And to you, zcezcest, congrats for 150k!

Explain plash? Is that a tip o the cap to JASNO?

isnadd, that's my theory as well. Whoever gets hired is toast once Cowher becomes available. Unless the team wins the Super Bowl.

Explain plash? Is that a tip o the cap to JASNO?

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 22, 2008 02:30 PM

It's early on in one of his posts from last week Z.

It may be they leaked the idea of Fassel intentionally to gage fan and media reaction. It could be that fan reaction will effect the decision. Hope so.

The only thing wrong with the Cowher theory is that Cowher's going to replace Fox in Carolina. If they'd fired Fox this year, then Cowher would be working there today.

Cindy, is this true?

"DCRTV hears that Washington Post sports writer Barry Svrluga will be jumping to the paper's Washington Redskins coverage team. Meanwhile, the Post is looking for someone to replace Svrluga on the Washington Nationals beat. In addition to the Skins, Svrluga will also cover the 2008 Olympics for the Post"

beep beep

God, make it stop!

"... I have concerns about what style of offense he's going to implement. I have bad feeling he's going to run a traditional Run on first and second downs throw on third. ..."

Posted by: Down777866 | January 22, 2008 02:19 PM

This is the precise reason why Fassel would be the head coach (and, as someone mentioned previously, the decision doesn't get announced until its too late for Gregg Williams to jump ship, and thus be forced to remain DC). This bit about running on first and second down ... can anyone say Joe Gibbs? Nothing says continuity like replacing Joe Gibbs with a Joe Gibbs clone. Al Saunders keeps his same role as last year ... offensive coordinator on a leash.

Diddy,

Exactly. This is why it makes absolutely no sense to go with anyone but Gregg. If he doesn't work out next year, well then Danny can chase down Cowher like he's always wanted to do. But to make mass changes next year, only to make them again the following year with Cowher... it's not just stupid, it's flat out reckless.

Didn't Fox get a huge new contract recently?

now Vinny is GOD!!!!!!!!

don't think I am going to wake up from this one!!!!!

beep, f'ing beep

And you thought Fassell was bad news.

My prediction:

Czar of Football Operations: Daniel M. Snyder
General Manager: Daniel M. Snyder
Head Coach: Gregg Williams
Asst. Head Coach Offense/OC: Jim Fassel
Asst. Head Coach Defense/OC: Jerry Gray

My concern with Fassel (apart from he's as boring as the bottom of my shoe) is that he runs the Bill Walsh offense, not the Sid Gillman offense. His system is completely different from the one St. Joe and Weird Al use.

Zebraskins, I will ignore the silly way you make your argument and I will reply.
I presume, and I concede I might be wrong in this presumption, you know Gibbs just as well as I do, that is through the media and not personally. We can only base our opinions on what we read. And what I read is that this guy made up his mind to quit the team on his fly back from the Carolinas, that when he arrived he called Snyder and gave him the good news; that he did not discuss this matter with any of his staff or coaches, etc. etc. So in effect it took the owner, the organization, everyone by surprise - something that he himself acknowledged. Are we under the same understanding?
A decent man, knowing the repercussion that