First! Does Zorn have a relationship with Fassel?

when will it end!

This is insane! When is Snyder going to put this issue to rest... for the other coaches, players and, for God's sake, the fans!

This whole thing is embarrassing...

Maybe this is good. Maybe GG get's the nod with a new OC... I can't see them hiring Fassel and a OC

Why would Snyder be interviewing the subsidiary coaches without having announced his head coach? Unless what the HC thinks is not an essential part of the process...

Ugh. You guys have my sympathy.

I'm having a hard time seeing these dots. My picture is all covered with biugs.

I don't understand why everyone is in such a rush. I think having a new coach by the Super Bowl would be a pretty decent time-table. It's a big decision. I wish they were this contemplative with free agents and draft picks in the past. They should take their time, make sure they talk to everyone who interests them, and then decide. There is ABSOLUTELY no rush right now.

looks like i will be saving $200 next year by not getting the NFL package on Direct TV. Sigh... this is just ebarrasing

Why would we be going after an OC when we dont have a HC, this makes no sense, if snyder has decided he just needs to make the announcment

What -- we finally get Jason up to page 235 of that 700-page Saunders playbook, and it's time to toss it on the scrapheap??? Say it ain't so, Danny-boy!!

I mean, I ain't no great big Al Saunders fan, but it's gotta put a young QB like JC back a full year to have to learn a whole new system from scratch -- AGAIN...

Redcoat, if the whole coaching staff is introduced in a single appearance, there will be little doubt who is running this "unbroken, unfixed" thing.

More importantly, however, what does this have to do with pies?

I'm going to be consistent from my previous post as we are all looking for some consistency :

Fcuk that,

Hire Grilliams and get on with it.

Fcuk the rest.

Fcuk, hurry this thing up!

What the Fcuk!?

See! If they are interviewing Zorn, that means Greggg Williams will be the next HC...

The ship has remained steady through all the rough waters.....

Vegence is mine!

Both zorn and fassel have ties to Utah State... Fassel was an asst coach there in the 80's and Zorn was an asst there later after fassel left in the 90's

This is totally crazy. He is doing this to bring attention to himself. What an ass!!

Redcoat, he has to see what combination of coaches he can land, I would imagine. You can't hire a head coach in hopes a good support staff will just appear.

There goes that nice pie-induced coma we were all in...

Could simply be that one of the HC candidates they are interested in (Williams, Fassel, Schwartz, etc.) told them he'd be interested in Zorn as OC and they want to see if they can live with him before offering the HC job to that candidate.

Oh, goody. It's always a great thing to have your 3rd year QB with a Wonderlich score of 13 try to learn a new offensive system every 2 years. But no worries, because we've got a backup QB who's been using the same system since the mid-90s.

How about we leave the coaches alone and get a new owner?

Does Dan Snyder have one of those deli-style number dispensers outside the mansion to handle the interviews?

"Mr. Fassel, you're number 96 . . . now, serving, number 96 . . . Mr. Zorn, now serving number 97."

"No, Mr. Williams, it's not your 5th turn yet."

This is hilarious. Every fear that every Skins fan has had about the Danny and Vinny "Fredo" Cerrato has come true.

Or would Vinny be "Igor"?

My favorites:
Pecan Pie(haven't had it with caramel & chocolate though)
Pumpkin Pie
Apple Pie

All can be made better with Breyer's vanilla ice cream.

***Note to self***
Pick up pie and ice cream on way home from work. Eat for dinner.
***End note to self***

jm220, are the falcons interviewing people for attention too? Maybe they should just hire anyone who says I'll do it. Lets just skip all the interviews and hire based on a dice game.

Why would Snyder be interviewing the subsidiary coaches without having announced his head coach? Unless what the HC thinks is not an essential part of the process...

Ugh. You guys have my sympathy.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 23, 2008 02:41 PM

Danny is just following in Jerry JOnes' footsteps, as usual....

My only data point on Zorn is that he used to be the QB in Seattle (throwing to Largent, right?). I'm not sure how I feel about bringing a Klingon into the organization though.

The comments on this blog are getting ridiculous.

A bunch of people who don't know what is going on feeding incredibly wild speculation.

Relax people. Wait until the process is finished to judge what you know nothing about at this point.

Saunders was never the problem.

The problem was and is questionable talent. And the problem's only gonna get worse.

I'm gonna need to know what type of pie Zorn favors. Jasno - can you work the phones on this?

Zorn is a Seattleite thru and thru and probable OC when Holmgren leaves, no way Zorn leaves Seattle for DC...humoring himself by playing with little Danny Snyda

Can we get back to the pie talk....mmmm pie...key lime pie isn't so bad either.....

I'd like to think they've got their HC settled on then. Otherwise WTH. Yo Danny, the cart goes behind the horse.

fassel and zorn were both west coast guys heving been born in CA... both played QB, so seems like these two may have some connections.

The question is, who is in the room with Snyder while Zorn is interviewed? Williams or Fassel? Williams is in town isn't he, what about Fassel?

Wasn't it Marie Antoinette who said, "Let them eat Pie."

(I just had this mental image of Danny in drag!)

Both zorn and fassel have ties to Utah State... Fassel was an asst coach there in the 80's and Zorn was an asst there later after fassel left in the 90's

Posted by: Big_Money20 | January 23, 2008 02:44 PM

_______
I just love that everytime a new name is mentioned, someone plays Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon with them.

All I'm saying ... and I'll only say this once ... is 8 to 10 servings.

http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1937,148176-234193,00.html

Mmmmm...bacon.

sams3 yoiu didn't see the birds going after other coaches before they picked their HC.

Forgot about Key Lime!

I second the thought about finding out what kind of pie Zorn likes. Matter of fact, let's find out what kind of pie all of the canidates like. Then we'll have better criteria to base this HC search on!

I'm gonna go ahead and put my vote in for coconut creme.

But since Zorn is a Seattle guy, I'm gonna say he's up for whatever they're serving at Starbucks. Something like Super Moca Chunk Delight Low Fat Skim Latte Pie.

I just love that everytime a new name is mentioned, someone plays Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon with them.

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 23, 2008 02:50 PM

how did we go from pie to bacon? the only swine here is Cerrato.

Jim Zorn is fun to say.

Fruit pies? Bah! Cream pies? Ugh!

Quiche rules!

Bacon was great divider up here. You were either for or against it. Now pie on the other hand!

sween, I sent that link home. I'll definitely be making that soon. Maybe this weekend.

FYI, I'm pro bacon and pro pie.

Any headcoach will want to have his own staff. Danny isn't trying to hire one person, but a complete package here.

It is a tough job. He has to see who is available and willing. He won't hire a head coach without knowing that a complete staff can be assembled. That's why it's taking so long.

I thought the head coach picked his coaching staff and not the owner. The Danny is an idiot.

What's that? Kevin Bacon is being interviewed?

What if we chose the next head coach through a pie-eating contest?? The heck with all this interviewing...pie, pie, pie...

On a side note, I'm also partial to a fresh picked, fresh out of the oven, apple pie...

well, guess we can quit hoping for anything today... no way we get an announcement now with the Zorn Dawg having steaks with the Dan tonight.

"Mmmmm...bacon."

Posted by: TheCindy | January 23, 2008 02:52 PM

"how did we go from pie to bacon?"

Posted by: Big_Money20 | January 23, 2008 02:54 PM

We never left the pie.

http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/breakfast/bacon-pie.html

Now all we need is the root beer.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bacon+pie

You usually don't interview OC without KNOWING who the HC is ...

Are Fossil and Zorn scientologists?!

Boston Cream for me. Which, of course, isn't a pie but a cake. Somehow, that seems to fit in The Danny's world, though...where up is down and black is white and Deion is still Prime Time...

"Bacon was great divider up here. You were either for or against it. Now pie on the other hand!"

Posted by: BCBarney | January 23, 2008 02:56 PM

I'm a uniter, not a divider.

Is quiche pie? I love bacon quiche. If it is a pie then I'd be able to combine my love for pie and bacon! The world would definitely be a happier place for me. Not my arteries, just me.

One comment somes it all up:

"Are we there yet?!?"

Matthew McConaughey was a pretty good coach in "We Are Marshall." They should hire him. He'd be fun. Especially if he brought the bongos with him.

I did swine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn

And I'm guessing that Flapjacks would win any pie eating contest easy.

maybe this isn't all Danny's fault. what if Greggggg said that he wants to keep Al. Danny wants to make a change there obviously. maybe Danny really wanted to hire Gregg but it didn't work out. who really knows.

this was a bad team last year that happened to use ST's death as a rally cry. they weren't that good. i think with that perspective you really have to view what the coaches were really getting out of the players.

The smartest thing you will ever read on this blog:

Bad management can screw up anything

Got to remember folks: this is my cousin Vinny's team now. Don't think he isn't calling a lot of the shots right now.

If Williams takes the job at this point, he's crazier than a pet raccon!

There ya go. And we could run the Veer. Wouldn't even need an OC.

One comment sums it all up:

"Are we there yet?!?"

Posted by: JoeyV | January 23, 2008 02:58 PM

Whereas a different comment would spin out of control:

"Is the bacon pie ready yet?!??!"

Cowboys hired their OC before the head coach last year and that seemed to work out pretty well.

I think we should be happy that Danny is taking his time. Rather than rushing out and hiring another Spurrier. Whether it's a coach you or I want or not, we should want Danny to choose a coach that he trusts. The last thing we need is a coach that is on a short leash from the day he is hired.

Oh no! Management screwed up the pies!! Now how will we decide the HC search if not with a pie eating contest?

The offense has been the problem for years, not the defense.

Al's in hot water now? Wasn't he brought here to fix that stagnant offense?

The only time the offense clicked was when Collins was QB'ing and the WR corps was a little healthier.

Irony: If Saunders gets fired, it will be after 2 years at OC--just like Fassel in 2006!

Bacon was great divider up here. You were either for or against it.

Posted by: BCBarney | January 23, 2008 02:56 PM

Against bacon? That's crazy talk.

If we're going with movie coaches then I'm putting Denzel on the "To Hire" list. After that comes Al Pacino.

No way does pretty boy McConaughy make my top 10.

dcsween : both have there pluses and minuses. Bacon Pie has lots of pluses including pants sizes.

Does anything surprise you guys anymore?

SERIOSULY.... WTF is going on?

Next, they will indeed be hiring Richard Simmons or Billy Blanks (Tae Bo dude) for Assistant Coach-Head Trainer...

That actually might be one of the best ideas yet!!!

Against bacon? That's crazy talk.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | January 23, 2008 03:02 PM

There was considerable resistance to adding bacon to different things. Now bacon on it's own is probably universally loved.

Now I'm remembering Nate's Maple Bacon Doughnut of yore.

Where's Nate and where did he find that legendary porcine confection?

Is it just me or do any of you get scared every time Jasno or others update this blog!

Denzel?! It would be just like Danny boy to hire a high school coach.

quiche = savory pie

as opposed to the fruit and cream types, which are sweet pies

980 continues to report that Jim Fassell will be named as Head Coach today or tomorrow.

I think Snyder wants Cowher but he will not be available until next season so he is hiring a "patsie" to be the fall guy. Will fire him at the end of next season and go after Cowher.

Williams is no "patsie". Stupid, stupid Snyder!!!

"Against bacon? That's crazy talk."

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | January 23, 2008 03:02 PM

Homer Simpson: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Lisa, honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?

Lisa Simpson: No.

Homer Simpson: Ham?

Lisa Simpson: No.

Homer Simpson: Pork chops?

Lisa Simpson: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!

Homer Simpson: [Chuckles] Yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.

OUCH! I stepped on a Zorn...

No longer scared, Numb to it all... because its so dumb.... almost like this comments: Super Bowl Bound Next Year! Sigh...

wonderlandinstallers,
You're not alone. I shivered when I launched this morning.

Is it just me or do any of you get scared every time Jasno or others update this blog!

Posted by: wonderlandinstallers | January 23, 2008 03:03 PM

I'd like for Jasno to make a bacon pie and post on it's progress and how it tasted. that way I wouldn't have to be scared of HC news.

Now I actually like this move if Saunders is to go...Zorn I think would be a good O-cord. Most ex-QBs are regardless of starting or not...but Zorn would be a good choice. But that basically says Saunders is GONE. I don't know what to think really...After sleeping on Fassil ..I'm not as down onit as I was when I first heard yesterday...It could be worse...at least he has had success....and I noticed a few posts calling JF soft...I don't see that...He was always firery in his conferences included being all mad and making that guarantee they would make the playoofs and the players responded and they did...anycase..there are worse choices out there....I mean GW definitely does not have the good track record. I was never sold on GW...My heart wants it but my brain says no..SO NATION...PUT ON YOUR SEAT BELT..GIBBS HAS LEFT AND THE OFFSEASON HAS BEGUN. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN LOL RIDE LIKE THE WIND BABY! LOL

Bacon cheeseburger cake!

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Bacon-Cheeseburger-Cake/Detail.aspx

so i guess the big question now is:

what team are we all going to root for in 2008?

MY GOD why are all of you so stuck on Williams? I don't get it? As a D cord..he was up and down...and as a head coach he was AWFUL...Why is he Jesus all of a sudden....I'm leaning more towards new blood...I mean in the last four years did we win a SB? DId we even come close? NO! The last four years were inconsisant at best....I have a change of heart..I do not want williams we need new blood

i guess the million dollar question is would zorn be oc for GDub or the fossil?

im kinda partial to American Pie...which is just like Warm Apple Pie...

of course there is always hair pie...which i think was booger's favorite in revenge of the nerds...

Bacon cheeseburger cake!

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Bacon-Cheeseburger-Cake/Detail.aspx

Posted by: 4-12 | January 23, 2008 03:08 PM

I got all excited and realized it's just a cake. No bacon at all. Looks pretty cool though. Good find.

Jason, thanks for posting the blog. keep the good work. Reading the above blog messages, Skin fans are frustrated by
the hiring process. I have to agree with
them, we have no power in hiring, but we
can voice our opinions. I guess these past
9 years of the Redskins, they are still
rebuilding the program. must be using
the long-term approach. Good Luck!

Oh and before some rebut with the players and coaches want him...BLAH OF COURSE THEY DO THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS! They know they will with Williams...The players just want to not have to learn new systems...so boo freakin whoo

Dan Snyder is applying the new definition of stability and continuity... complete chaos. Buh-bye Saunders, buh-bye Williams, buh-bye countless other assistants and underlings. Blow it up, start over, nothing means anything, it's time for a new run of retreads.

What there is a debate over bacon are you people insane!! Thats it I am done with this blog, selling my season tickets to blogging....I am gonna eat nothing but bacon until some people realize its the perfect food..

AGAIN WE NEED A GENERAL MANAGER OF FOOD CONSUMPTION UP HERE!

I'm rooting for the Washington Whatchamacallits? But then I root for them every year.

Can turkey bacon really be called bacon?

Cindy, Matthew McConaughey is a Redskins fan. I remember seeing him interviewed during a game a few years back, and he declared his allegiance to the burgundy and gold.

This is insane! When is Snyder going to put this issue to rest... for the other coaches, players and, for God's sake, the fans!

This whole thing is embarrassing...

Posted by: psummers | January 23, 2008 02:38 PM

No, what's embarrassing is reading this blog and seeing comments like the one above from people who have absolutely no idea what is going on nor any clue whether these rumors are true or not.

Please, for the love of God, will you people get a grip for one second! Know your roles, and shut your mouths (or shut your laptops). Let the professions who are in charge do their jobs, and let this whole process play itself out without offering your ill-informed moronic opinions.

NONE OF US--I REPEAT, NONE OF US--HAS ANY CLUE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. SO STOP RUSHING TO CONCLUSIONS AND ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE FOLKS IN CHARGE WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS FRANCHISE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT.

gibbs came out of nowhere the last time, when we were interviewing fassel, rhodes and dennis green... please sign that blank check to Bill Cowher.

Can turkey bacon really be called bacon?

Posted by: NCICURN | January 23, 2008 03:12 PM

Yes, for us non - pork eaters. Turkey Bacon Rocks!

my vote
HC - Pumpkin pie (has to be custard)
OC - pecan pie (because you have to be a bit nutty)
DC - Sweet potatoe pie (gotta have the roots on defense)

side note - anyone see the Good Eats pocket pie episode (my mouth waters just thinking about curried mango pocket pies)

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_32305,00.html

I'm going to go with a quiche is an offshoot of a pie. Kind of like a rogue splinter group. I love quiche, I love bacon cheddar quiche, and I love pie of all kind.

What I want to know is how many people on this blog have Hail to the Redskins on their Ipod?

I've got the mini-mini so it comes up about once a day.

Good post Barno!

barno, would you rather have pie or bacon? Better yet, no bacon for you. Your blood pressure seems to a little high. Yep, you need some pie. A little something to put a smile on that face!

Please, for the love of God, will you people get a grip for one second! Know your roles, and shut your mouths (or shut your laptops). Let the professions who are in charge do their jobs, and let this whole process play itself out without offering your ill-informed moronic opinions. - barno

My-my, isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? - Peace

LIONS TO PART WAYS WITH ROGERS

The Detroit Free Press reports that the Lions will part ways with veteran defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.

Per the Free Press, Rogers will be traded or released.

Rogers, a second-round pick in 2001, is signed through 2010, at salaries of $4.25 million, $5.25 million, and $7 million over the next three years, respectively.

I have it on my ,I pod laptop, desk top, and my car horn!

There's an old Tennessee dish that I forget the name of that is like a layer of bread, then a layer of cheese, then a layer of bacon, repeated like 7 times. I'd say that's both the best and worst pie you can buy.

I think I'm going to let the professional journalists update us with information as it happens. I'm no longer going to criticize them because they're at the Park, talking to sources I don't have, and, really, what do I know about writing a lede and earning a byline?

That's what I'm going to do.

And eat lots of quiche and pie.

is cheese cake a cake or a pie? It has cake in the name but it always seemed very pie-esque to me.

I like biug pie

HTTR on my ipod, laptop and desktop. Plus my 3 yr old son knows the lyrics by heart. What a good kid!

sheidt99, you just described Heaven. A little slice of Heaven.

So will this mean a switch to the west coast offense? What would the skins have to upgrade to do that (WR, OL, FB)??

Thanks for your input Barno. While I certainly don't have a professional opinion on the matter, I do pay a good bit of respect to the true professionals out there that have won countless Super Bowls, playoff games, and Divisional championships who continue to comment that the situation in Washington is "amusing".

Ok not the car horn but that would have been cool right?

We can all use bacon wrapped, cheese whiz filled, deep fried hot dogs!

http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/post_135

"Know your roles, and shut your mouths"

spoken like a true fascist, nice work Barno. Wasn't Snyder just a rich fan? Dontcha think 12 years ago he was screaming about what he would do and than thought "hey i have the cash to buy this sucka and run nit myself" so whats the diff family fcker?

And so what if people spout off it there right, its fun, go take your thought police law and order poop somewhere else tool bag.

I'm going to say that cheesecake doesn't have flour in it, therefore it is not a cake. I have no idea what to make of flourless cakes, though. Maybe that's a new thing that scientists have yet to name.

Next season with new blood the Skins might not have that midseason melt down we ahave seen for 4 years straight and have to win 200 games to get into the playoffs....

Are you kidding me with pumpkin pie? Thats a 4th rate pie at best. Apple, Blueberry, heck, how about mince-meat pie?

IS EVERYBODY HAPPY????!!!!

Pumpkin Pie was a saint! Don't you disparage her like that!

you've never tasted my pumpkin pie!

When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmm, boy.

OMG, I totes forgot that McConaughey is a Redskins fan. Perfect hire if he can get Matthew Fox as an assistant.

TRACKING THE REDSKINS WITH THE BEAT REPORTER.

Below are updates on the Redskins coaching search from Washington Post's Redskins beat reporter Jason La Canfora. Stay tuned for more updates as we get closer to the end of the search.

"Redskins are interviewing Seattle Qb coach Jim Zorn for an offensive coordinator position. This continues to jibe with what I have heard through this process about Al Saunders possibly being in hot water." Beat Reporter, January 23

"I keep hearing that Jim Fassel is in a great position to get this job" -Beat Reporter, January 22

"Gregg Williams is by far the leading candidate for this job." -Beat Reporter, January 12

"Bill Cowher fits the bill for what Snyder would be attracted to" -Beat Reporter, January 8

"former Baltimore DC Rex Ryan would replace Gregg Williams if it goes down this way" -Beat Reporter, January 22

"The Redskins have still said nothing to Williams and the rest of the coaches and all signs pointing to Fassel." -Beat Reporter, January 22

"This franchise went from 900 million to 1.5 billion since Gibbs came here in 2004. That's the bottom line here. Snyder is not gonna give the head coaching job to someone that doesn't have that big name, that sex appeal, who is not going to help him sell club level seats, and expensive suites." -Beat Reporter, January 8

"I Need A Job Where I Can Just Make Things Up And Create The News" -Beat Reporter, January 21

"In an era of rampant speculation I am being as careful as I can." -Beat Reporter, January 21

"For all of the yapping about continuity and stability, sure sounds like a blood-letting is upon us. Owner Dan Snyder was given multiple opportunities to endorse an in-house candidate, and specifically Gregg Williams, and declined to do so." -Beat Reporter, January 8

"Jim Fassel, former Giants coach and Baltimore assistant, could be getting a look." -Beat Reporter, January 21

"Cowher fits the bill for what Snyder would be attracted to. Now, as I mentioned earlier Cowher would want full roster and personnel control and probably want to bring some of his own people in as well" -Beat Reporter, January 8

"Cowher is off the market...He knows the kind of $$$ Snyder spends and he is not wavering in his stance" -Beat Reporter, January 10

"I'd be stunned if the Skins don't reach out to Cowher soon" -Beat Reporter, January 8

"If it's Gregg Williams, the process will be over in 3-5 days" -Beat Reporter, January 8

"Several NFL sources said that they took the identification of Schwartz as a candidate as another sign that Williams, who the players strongly support, does not appear to be the front runner." -Beat Reporter, January 10

"It doesn't come off as a great sign that they bring in Williams's former assistant, obviously" -Beat Reporter, January 10

"We've just started this process. It's the first interview of many. We need to slow down. It's impossible to see the entire picture right now. It's a fluid situation and this isn't free agency - you don't hire every guy you bring into town." -Beat Reporter, January 10

"I thought he and Gibbs could have sent a much stronger message about the validity of their in house people as candidates at the press conference" -Beat Reporter, January 10

"Wouldn't it be an indictment of this entire Joe Gibbs 2.0 era if Snyder went through the process then handed it over to someone with little-to-no head coaching experience - without at least talking to the in-house guys first" -Beat Reporter, January 10

"Greg Williams will most definitely be a part of the process and, as I posted earlier, he is expected to interview at the end of the cycle, likely the final interview." -Beat Reporter, January 11

"But to this point I do not have anything firm enough to meet the Post's standards" -Beat Reporter, January 12

"It would really be something to have none of Gibbs's guys even get an interview" -Beat Reporter, January 12

"the consensus I keep coming to is Williams is the guy" -Beat Reporter, January 12

"Got an email from one of those on-line casinos with the odds for the next coach of the Skins. It's notable for what it doesn't say more than what it does:

Gregg Williams - 2/1
The Field - 2/1
Bill Cowher - 5/1
Al Saunders - 5/1
Brian Billick - 6/1
Jason Garrett - 9/1
Mike Singletary - 12/1
Rex Ryan - 12/1
Jim Caldwell - 15/1

So, basically, Vegas has no idea at this point" -Beat Reporter, January 9

Pumpkin Pie is my great midnight mistress.

Smile we do have 3 SB titles and two of our QBs have been voted in the top 20 as alltime best QBs in SB history with 1 being #3 and the other #20 :)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3204599

Cheesecake is a category all it's own. Just look at how many types of cheesecake there are. Insane.

Greg, I'll give you apple and blueberry even though I don't like them but pumpkin has to rank above mince-meat.

Lemon Merengue, made this back in middle school. Not a great pie but it looks pretty cool.

sween,

Thanks for the pig related simpsons quote... reminded me of the "Adam and Eve" parallel they did where a pig with a top hat and a monocle plopped down next to homer in Eden and let Homer peel his succulent underside right off!

Also, the pie talk reminds me of when Marge left Homer alone in the kitchen with a pie to check on a fighting Bart/Lisa shabingus and Homer talking to the pie...

"All right pie, I'm going to go like this (chomping his mouth) and if you get in the way its your own fault."
(Homer hits his head on the stove and starts to yell and stops briefly)
"Ah what the heck"
(eats the pie)

If they are going to blow it up then they should go after a young coach. Not some old coach that been fired twice in the last three years. WTF!!!

OMG, I totes forgot that McConaughey is a Redskins fan.

Posted by: TheCindy | January 23, 2008 03:21 PM

He's from Texas though. I think that disqualifies him automatically.

I'm going to take pumpkin pie out for a nice seafood dinner and then never call her again.

BCB, I'll see your pumpkin pie, and raise you a peach cobbler....

It's from Kentucky and called a "Hot Brown".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Brown

The picture looks nothing like the time I had it. I'm not kidding when I say there were 7 layers of cheese and bacon.

Fossil is a spring chicken. He post-dates all other fossils by millions of years.

my fave,

hair pie

Pumpkin Pie is my great midnight mistress.

Posted by: JoeyV | January 23, 2008 03:21 PM

How about Strawberry Shortcake as a midnight mistress?

Barno, If you have hate in your heart brother, let it out!

Can you believe the Redskins' new coach is going to be a guy who got shown the door after his interview for the OC job at KC!

how emberassing is that...

Barno - I know this may surprise you, but, you know, more than just the weather changes over the course of 10 days.

Now settle down and eat some pie or a Kentucky Hot Brown or something.

"...After sleeping on Fassil ..I'm not as down on it as I was when I first heard yesterday...It could be worse..."

Posted by: leevi98 | January 23, 2008 03:08 PM

See? Isn't the blog kind of like therapy? [Based on your 3:10pm rant, however, bipolarism may be present. This is 180% different from where you were coming from yesterday about selling your season tickets if they hired Fassel ... only at 3:10 you were even more adamant.]

Note to Dorf: "Ooooooo ... floor pie!"

you know what - all you people talking about cheesecakes and casaroles should all go start a blog on the Food Network!!

www.foodnetwork.com

MY GOD why are all of you so stuck on Williams? I don't get it? As a D cord..he was up and down...and as a head coach he was AWFUL...Why is he Jesus all of a sudden....I'm leaning more towards new blood...I mean in the last four years did we win a SB? DId we even come close? NO! The last four years were inconsisant at best....I have a change of heart..I do not want williams we need new blood

Posted by: leevi98 | January 23, 2008 03:10 PM

leevi98, Barno, I have to disagree. The problem is, the last 4 years were better than the previous 12.

Other than pulling off the surprise of bringing a HOF Skins coach out of retirement, there wasn't much to cheer about from this franchise in those 12 years. And what's going on now looks a helluva lot like what was going on for 12 years after the first time Gibbs retired. Been there done that. The results were NOT good.

So far, none of the candidate trotted out so far have any advantage over Williams. Fassel's Superbowl visit is easily balanced by his complete lack of success since then.

i'm personally a fan of the sheppards pie. all that goodness mashed into a bowl...

"Know your roles, and shut your mouths"

spoken like a true fascist, nice work Barno. Wasn't Snyder just a rich fan? Dontcha think 12 years ago he was screaming about what he would do and than thought "hey i have the cash to buy this sucka and run nit myself" so whats the diff family fcker?

And so what if people spout off it there right, its fun, go take your thought police law and order poop somewhere else tool bag.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 23, 2008 03:18 PM

ChrisLarry once again demonstrates his constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth. Chrislarry has both A) never heard of world famous wrestler The Rock; and B) wouldn't know a "Fascist" from a doorknob.

"Fascist" is a favorite insult of choice from many bed-wetting liberals, most of whom don't even know what the word means.

Jason appreciate all the updates cuz its obvious we get no updates from our horrible front office and we have no idea with what is going on with our franchise...basically if fassel is brought in and all these changes occur your saying joe gibbs 2nd stint was bs and all for nothing and that danny the little rich nerd snyder has lied to all of redskin nation about 'continuity.' It is a shame as a franchise and diehard fans that we have to go through this nonsense over and over. It is hard for me to say that I won't pay for season tickets and all bogus ass prices that snyder makes us pay cuz I live and die with my team, but I am getting to the point where it is making me sick. If we don't hire Gregg Williams as the head coach lets get ready for a completely new team, new offense, new defense, a whole new group of core players, and lets get ready for alot of top 10 draft picks....just what danny boy loves offseason limelight...

Know your roles, and shut your mouths...

...let this whole process play itself out without offering your ill-informed moronic opinions.

SO STOP RUSHING TO CONCLUSIONS AND ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE FOLKS IN CHARGE WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS FRANCHISE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT.

Posted by: barno | January 23, 2008 03:12 PM

Wow... just, wow.

Did RI just become a police state or something?
Did "the ownership" just revoke the right of lawful assembly?

Seriously Barno, you have NO evidence that the people who are in charge know best, you're just hoping that. I hope you're right too, but only time will tell. Regardless though, the customers are entitled to their opinion, as always.

Are you contrarian by nature or perhaps what my Father rather 'charmingly' used to describe as someone "who likes to stir the shti"? Maybe you really see it as your calling to save everyone from their foolishness and mayhem? No matter, abusing people who don't conform to your world view isn't a good way of getting them to see your point.

If the views expressed on this blog are that distressing to you perhaps you should take a break until everything blows over?

Sorry Barno forgot my "Great quotes of Pro Wrestlers" book at home today...

"Bed wetting liberals" I will take as a compliment from the likes of you ditto head...and that wetness my man is baby juice!

Oh yeah!

big_money - what else is there to do but worry about the skins and dream about pie?

Greg, I see your Peach Cobbler and...well that's a classic. One of the big ones. But I'll still take a banana cream pie out for a spin once in while. Delightfully simple.

The HC search is becoming mind-numbing and I can't say I have a better opinion that the FO. But, since a OC is interviewing, I'm guessing it's almost over. I wouldn't be happy with Fassel as I'm not impressed with him. GW I'd like but I'll still root for the laundry.

Big_Money20,
The food talk may appear random at first, but upon close inspection patterns begin to emerge.

(We're all debating food as a proxy for head coach hand wringing. We're exhausted from loss of sleep. My reference to Shortcake, for example, has nothing to do with food.)

Is Snyder smoking and not sharing?

From the movie "True Romance" ... with lead characters played by Patricia Arquette and Christian Slater ...

Her: "When I see a really good movie I really like to go out and get some pie, and talk about it. Would you like to get some pie with me?"

Him: "I would love to get some pie."

"I can't wait to see what Davo and others who have posted similar idiotic comments this week and last will say next Tuesday afternoon when Gregg Williams is introduced as the new head coach of the Washington Redskins."

Posted by: barno | January 18, 2008 10:45 PM

"Mission Accomplished"

by: President Bush on May 1, 2003

Wow. Just...Wow.

just heard on the radio that skins will announce jim fassell as their HC tomorrow.

also on a related note Fossil watches have been contacted by snyder to work out a skins watch deal.

would you like a skins fossil watch?

My theory is that Gregg was Snyder's first choice. He tried to seal the deal -- over four meetings -- but Gregg overplayed his hand making demands that Snyder couldn't agree to. Thus the four meetings -- to try to reach a compromise.

What was the sticking point? Maybe control over the coordinator positions. Maybe personnel control. Maybe money. Who knows?

A lot of what has gone on since then has been designed to get Gregg to back down -- Mora's the one; Fassel's the one; Meeks thrilled us. Etc. But, at some point Snyder will have to go with his second choice. He's given Gregg plenty of time to think it through and Gregg has to either "fish or that-other thing."

Just a theory.

Big_Money20,
The food talk may appear random at first, but upon close inspection patterns begin to emerge.
Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 23, 2008 03:34 PM

Fine! Then I bring this to the table...
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_29636,00.html

So if you have a good QB coach this means that Fossil's strength is mitigated.

All signs point to Grilliams, quickly everyone jump on the it's 100% Williams job and Fassel is out bandwagon.

Oh Danny why do you play with my emotions.

"Fascist" is a favorite insult of choice from many bed-wetting liberals, most of whom don't even know what the word means.

Posted by: barno | January 23, 2008 03:30 PM

Pretty intense, but the term bed-wetting liberals is kind of funny.

" ... If the views expressed on this blog are that distressing to you perhaps you should take a break until everything blows over?"

Posted by: Redcoat | January 23, 2008 03:32 PM

There is no possible way for me to step away from this now ... we're in too deep ... and need to focus on the matter at hand ... pie. With beer.

BigMoney20, Bacon Cheddar Meatloaf with pork AND veal! Dude! You win!

Snyder will hire all the staff secretly, blindfold them all, and place them in a dark conference room at Redskins Park and switch on the lights.

"Walla! Everyone, meet your co-workers!!!"

Good luck.

Well, this makes sense.

Fassel - Head Coach, but would also replace Saunders acting as OC.

Zorn - Offensive Coordinator, but has no practical NFL OC experience (short period in college at Utah in 90's). Rather, he's a QB Position Coach. So, hiring him as OC eliminates hassles with lateral move compensation, puts two hands (Zorn & Fassel) on Jason Campbell for development. Also, gives Fassel a puppet in the booth for play calling during games. With a new QB-PC and new OC, Campbell & the offense will be going through another learning curve.

Ryan - Defensive Coordinator and Vinny's goombatz. Since this is a lateral move, draft compensation will be due the Ravens. But who needs draft selections? Ryan's big challenge will either be re-casting our 4-3 into his 3-4 vision or converting his own schemes to suit our talent. Either way, someone is going to be going through another learning curve.

Welcome to your new Washington Redskins Redux. New faces, same old results.

ChrisLarry once again demonstrates his constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth. Chrislarry has both A) never heard of world famous wrestler The Rock; and B) wouldn't know a "Fascist" from a doorknob.

"Fascist" is a favorite insult of choice from many bed-wetting liberals, most of whom don't even know what the word means.

Posted by: barno | January 23, 2008 03:30 PM

Sorry Barno, as someone from "the world" i.e. not just the US, I have to enlighten you for once. Muhammad Ali is world fanous, The Rock is not.

Secondly I believe it's easy to tell a fascist from a doorknob, one is a tool for opening doors (very useful) and the other could be described as "an authoritarian political idealogue that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. The key attribute of fascists is an intolerance of others. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism."

I think cHriSlARRy called it pretty well on you. I was hoping that you really were just arguing intellectually for the heck of it but it seems you're not. Shame.

BigMoney20 definitely wins. God, that's brilliant.

There is no possible way for me to step away from this now ... we're in too deep ... and need to focus on the matter at hand ... pie. With beer.

BigMoney20, Bacon Cheddar Meatloaf with pork AND veal! Dude! You win!

Posted by: dcsween | January 23, 2008 03:43 PM

THANK YOU

"I can't wait to see what Davo and others who have posted similar idiotic comments this week and last will say next Tuesday afternoon when Gregg Williams is introduced as the new head coach of the Washington Redskins."

Posted by: barno | January 18, 2008 10:45 PM

"Mission Accomplished"

by: President Bush on May 1, 2003

Wow. Just...Wow.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 23, 2008 03:36 PM

I was wrong about Gregg Williams being hired by Tuesday, this is true. However, I don't believe I need to admit being wrong about Williams being hired seeing as no head coach announcement has as of yet been made.

As for your insinuation that President Bush claimed "mission accomplished" please provide me that direct quote from one of his speeches. As far as I know, that was a quote from a banner placed on an aircraft carrier not by the president nor his people, but by the military. If you wish to badmouth the military, please don't insinuate nor beat around the bush (no pun intended). That's just cowardly.

" ... If the views expressed on this blog are that distressing to you perhaps you should take a break until everything blows over?"

Posted by: Redcoat | January 23, 2008 03:32 PM

There is no possible way for me to step away from this now ... we're in too deep ... and need to focus on the matter at hand ... pie. With beer.

BigMoney20, Bacon Cheddar Meatloaf with pork AND veal! Dude! You win!

Posted by: dcsween | January 23, 2008 03:43 PM

Dude, don't leave. THESE ARE BASIC FREEDOMS!... I'm stayin'...finishin' my coffee.

Hello everyone longtime reader first time poster. I agree that the logical choice if GG. I also think that something of a shakeup is needed. Is it Fossil don't know but as a long time fan I just hope that the decision that Snyder makes is one that he sticks with for at least 6 yrs and see how it all pans out. Maybe just a little bit of trust in your decisions from the owner and his pet would be just what the team needs with no big splash. Also, coconut creme pie is the best of the all.

Now I need an apron.

PS...

I prefer Hair Pie

My take. The Skins were very competitive against the best teams in the NFC. They were in it, on the road, against all 4 NFC division winners. They beat the NFC champs on the road -- in a game they needed.

They played very hard down a tough stretch, with no fluke wins, against teams that were above average.

They have a young and promising QB who has learned a lot, but has a few more steps to take. They had a terrible time with injuries last year.

They have bonded as a team, as much as any team I've ever seen. They are strongly behind one guy for HC.

OK, so is this a team you blow up, or is this a group you ride with. To me, I think you ride with these guys. They were close to being a very good team. And they know they can be a very good team.

So my question is this. Do you blow it up for Fassel?

For Cowher, maybe. But for Fassel? That is sick.

[sarcasm on]
I'm confident that ex-Giant Super Bowl coach Fassel will be able to take the Skins just as far as ex-Cowboy OC (with his 2 Super Bowl rings!) Norv Turner!!!

If The Dan hires "Norv" Fassel, here's to 7 years of pure fun!

[sarcasm off]

I would not worry who is the coach if Vinny is back to running things.

The only way we are to have any chance if they hire a real front office dude. They might but as it stands this is not goooood. We have reason to dispair.

Stupid no nothing Gibbs haters. This is what you get. You are like the Obama lovers, change change change, who cares to what.

If you wish to badmouth the military, please don't insinuate nor beat around the bush (no pun intended). That's just cowardly.

Posted by: barno | January 23, 2008 03:46 PM

I repeat.

Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

If the shoe fits Barno, wear it proudly!!

bcb, I'll see your banan cream, and raise you some apple crisp, which, while technically not pie, is still yummy...

I know - they want Zorn because they want to trade for Michael Vick, and figure Vick will need a LEFT-HANDED former NFL QB AS OC to mentor him to greatness. In fact, trade fir Vick, keep Brunnell, cut Campbell and Portis, and re-sign Ernest Byner, and you can have an all-lefty backfield.

I'm ready to follow BigMoney20's lead ... move forward from pies ... and onto meat loafs. Waddya say, Coach BigMoney20, where do we go next? [with beer]

[and where is that swingin soul, Nate?]

Also, I feel a new thread coming on ... feels like a press release ...

do you all remember the careerbuilder.com commercial with the office workers competing in a gladiator type competition? I'm having this mad vision that that is what the Snyd is doing with our coaching job. And to the winner goes the right to name the official Redskin's pie.

Maybe it's just the sugar talking.

The fun thing about SportsTalk 980 is that their secret source is...this blog! They'll be reporting Jim Zorn real soon now, so stay tuned.

Dan Snyder should seriously give fantasy football a try for a few years before screwing around with a (formerly) real NFL team!

Where's Skippy when we need him to settle the pie contest?

I've never heard of a corporate job search taking two weeks!! Absolute ABSOLUTE madness!!! Imagine Poor Prince Grilliams cooling his heels by the throne for a whole TWO WEEKS! The pity, the shame, the laughter of other teams' illustrious scouts, &c. &c.

Barno, the White House actually did get the Mission Accomplished banner printed up ... just trying to keep the history straight

Z

Maybe blowing it up is something that I think does not need to be done. Maybe a change in Philospy yes! I am not sure that Campbell can run Al's offense but maybe bring some one in to taylor their offense to campbell.

BigFish! You knucklehead, where you been?

I'm surprised Danny Boy hasn't tried to convince Pepper Rodgers to come out of retirement.

Big News out of Ashburn VA Wed. Jan 23:
The Redskins will be holding a press conference to announce the selection of the new Head Coach. The exact date and time of the announcement has yet to be determined.

barno just went from "adorable little nuisance" to something else entirely.

Burgundy, that would actually be hilarious.

I'm going to have to abscond from the meat loaf talk. I don't eat that stuff so I really have no frame of reference.

Turkey Meatloaf Sandwhiches.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_34654,00.html

Eventhough this is gay, I'm kind of enjoying this...

Stuff I was raised on.

http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/food/pies.htm

If you want pies, come to Britain. My former country's byline is "Pies? We got 'em!".

Basically anything that can be minced up - whether it ought to or not - is fair game.

Does it make anyone else sick to their stomach thinking about Vinny's google eyes gazing over prospects, our cap figures, and ultimately our roster?

How about Snyder in the war room or scouting combine looking over 40 times? A 4.8 is good for a WR, right Vinny? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Jerry Jones in that commerical and starts calling the plays next year.

Campbell and the rest of the players must be sick.

If they hold the press conference today, Danny and Vinny may get to see themselves on 'Inside the NFL' tonight.

Question, if you are Fassel, why would you take this job? Other than the $$$ and that you need the job. And as cynical as any of us can be ... if its about the $$$, thats not the guy you want.

Because if Danny is cleaning house after making the playoffs (and with major injuries, close losses and your best player getting murdered), what is the bar for success?

Nope, it makes no sense to clean house right now.

Actually, a redskins pie would be a big seller. Anyone remember the Redskins ice cream from a few years back? (Maybe it still exists?)

Might be hard to get burgandy and gold in there but I can see something on the lines of a caramel and chocolate ice cream pie.

I'm going to have to abscond from the meat loaf talk. I don't eat that stuff so I really have no frame of reference.

Posted by: JustinBaker | January 23, 2008 03:52 PM

you're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie theater and wants to know...

I heard a rumor that Vinny Cerrato wears clown shoes at the Park.

Sween,

Never posted before was there a prior bigfish if so then I will change my ID to something else. I know how big a thing it was before the dreaded registration. I do not want people to think that I am him. Just let me know. Didn't recall anyone having that ID.

If you really want Cowher, why not exercise that patience your mentor Joe Gibbs talked about, keep things the same, go with Gregg and the rest of the guy, and try to get a Super Bowl.

If things don't work out, well then you make these drastic changes, hopefully with Cowher.

it just doesn't make sense to do it now, after all that has happened and been said.

it's maddening.

Mission Accomplished:

The White House claimed that the banner was requested by the crew of the ship, who did not have the facilities for producing such a banner. Afterwards, the administration and naval sources stated that the banner was the Navy's idea, White House staff members made the banner, and it was hung by the U.S. Navy personnel. White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN "We took care of the production of it. We have people to do those things. But the Navy actually put it up."[5] According to John Dickerson of TIME magazine, the White House later conceded that they actually hung the banner but still insists it had been done at the request of the crew members.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Accomplished

Barno. Please eat some pie.

Perhaps this quote has greater meaning then when the coach uttered it.

"Forget the past - the future will give you plenty to worry about." - George Allen

I am worried. Very, very worried.

How about my Gregg Williams Meatloaf Special... check it out.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_34939,00.html

Man, I've just about forgotten about this coach thing... who would have ever thought the food netwrok was where it was at!

All, don't forget Gibbs is still advising so this may not be all Danny's doing.

Sween,

I'm not buying it for a minute. This Bigfish has Coyote Ugly written all over him.

Something tells me it won't be long before the unannounced new HC of the Skins is fired...

i hate humble pie.

Is Vinny in charge of the roster or the Rooster?? I certainly hope it is the rooster that goes to Johnny Rockets for their chicken sandwich!

As a former bed wetter and coming from a family heritage steeped in bed wetting, I am appalled that you would lump such honorable people with "liberals". Shame on you Barno!

CHrIsLarRy- did you have to mention baby juice while we were talking about pies and such?

Get along everyone! Get along!

Maps.

some people call it the sonny burger. i call it delicious.

I had a bunch of issues with the 2007 Skins coaches and players. But the 2007 Skins were successful. Could Al Saunders done better with Campbell? Yes. Why did Santana Moss wait 10 games before showing up? Can't say for sure. Did Gibbs mismanage some games? Sure did.

But did this team play hard, play with pride and win some tough games against good teams? YESSSSS!!!!! Did they get to the playoffs? YESSSSSS!!!!! Did they improve, despite so many things going wrong during the season? YESSSSSS!!!!!! Were the Skins feared and respected at the end of the season? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

If you take a good team that is respected and blow it up, it must work or you will never be respected (Vinny, Danny, that is directed at you).

Jim Fassel is not the guy you blow this up for.

So Snyder has morphed into Jerry Jones and is now determining who will be on the coaches staff? I thought that most coaches enjoyed things like control of the roster and who their assistants were, but I guess if you've been out of the NFL for a few years you'll agree to anything to become a headcoach again.

Breaking

At a news conference today, Redskins owner Danny Snider both hired and fired Jim Fassel as coach of the Washington Redskins. He then resigned as owner, appointed Vinny Cerrato as the new owner, and took over the coaching reins saying, "how hard can it be. You just throw it around a little bit, run it, and hit people. It's football folks and I know football."

Later, new Head Coach - Pie, Danny Snider, was seen wolfing down an entire bacon cheeseburger pie.

I think all the goodwill Snyder built up during the Taylor tragedy will go out of the window if he hires a fossil.

humble pie, can't even be saved with chocolate sauce, or even some Breyers ice cream...

I've been calling the George Michael Sports Machine Sports Hotline (202-363-4444) every 3-5 minutes since Gibbs retired, and after thousands of "this call cannot be completed as dialed" they just updated the recording!

The Redskins announce their new leadership:
Jim Fassel: Co-head coach: Quizno's
Doug Williams: Co-head coach: 2nd quarter comebacks
Michael Wilbon: Co-head coach: player slander

Long live the triumverate! But wait, there's more!

Gregg Williams: Asst Head Coach: Who wants to be a millionaire?
Al Saunders: Asst Head Coach: Todd Collins
Jim Schwartz: Asst Head Coach: The Middle Linebacker
Pepper Rodgers: Asst Head Coach: Owner Backrubs
Brian Billick: Asst Head Coach: Self Backrubs
Jim Zorn: O Coordinator: Passing Downs

Vinny Cerrato: Vice President of the Peter Principle
Dan Snyder: Puppetmaster

zcezcest, reading your post aloud, I couldn't help but think of Cobra Commander. I don't know why. I was always more of a Snake Eyes guy, myself.

Maybe after 4 meetings, GW realized he does not want to be the head coach (especially with no control). Maybe he will just stay as DC and the offense will rebuild.

I am praying that something good comes of all this.

xoxo

Oh the speculation!!! MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP!

Oh the speculation!!! MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP!

Anyone else have a vision of Danny and Vinny in a Miller Lite commercial, a la Steinbrenner and Billy Martin

Tom Friend (ESPN) has reportedly posted stuff to the extremeskins board:

Okay, now that it's all coming out, I can tell you what I know.
Jim Zorn has emerged as the leading candidate to be Offensive Coordinator, ahead of John Ramsdell (Chargers QB coach) and Mike Shula (Jags QB coach).
Rex Ryan is a contract negotiation away from being D-Coordinator, and I'm assuming they'll outbid the Ravens for him.
The heirarchy wants to keep Byner, Bugel and Blache from the previous staff. All others are probably gone.
Snyder simply does not trust or mesh with Gregg Williams, and the debacle of '06 is what started that. The heirarchy felt Williams was arrogant, stubborn and not forthright that year, and another red flag was his horrible relationship with Ralph Wilson in Buffalo. It was too much for Williams to overcome. Just wasn't a good fit here.
------------------------------------
Since I posted, I hear it's mayhem again.
Snyder's interviewing Zorn without Fassel! Shouldn't your next coach be there?
Fassel is in Phoenix and knows nothing yet.
Rex Ryan also knows nothing yet.
They're leaving everyone hanging, and ships might sail, including Rex Ryan's. Snyder is apparently holding all this up. Does he go back to Williams? For the moment, it's in limbo again. For the moment.
----------------------------------

I have no way of knowing but people there vouch for this being him and reliable

Could the dark shrouds that Snyder's hiring process is hiding behind be the rings below Bram Weinstein's eyes?

Just a thought, my meatloaf is in the oven.

Breaking

At a news conference today, Redskins owner Danny Snider both hired and fired Jim Fassel as coach of the Washington Redskins. He then resigned as owner, appointed Vinny Cerrato as the new owner, and took over the coaching reins saying, "how hard can it be. You just throw it around a little bit, run it, and hit people. It's football folks and I know football."

Later, new Head Coach - Pie, Danny Snider, was seen wolfing down an entire bacon cheeseburger pie.

Posted by: sheidt99 | January 23, 2008 04:06 PM

This was about as funny as the Simpsons movie. Which is to say it was not funny at all...

PLEASE GOD, NO.

Both Don & Mike and DC101 are reporting Fassel as HC. ESPN/Redskins dont seem to be saying this though. Any real word about this, or just misinformation spreading around????

Don't be such a sourpuss Barno. Your bipolarity is depressing. Sit down and eat some Key Lime Pie already.

(Breaking: Barno can't see when people are mocking him.)

"How about my Gregg Williams Meatloaf Special... check it out.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_34939,00.html

Man, I've just about forgotten about this coach thing... who would have ever thought the food netwrok was where it was at!"

Posted by: Big_Money20 | January 23, 2008
03:59 PM

I'm STILL laughing at the photo in the link!

Welcome new Bigfish! Yes, there was someone named Bigfish, but maybe he became Pescado Grande or something. Feel free to keep the name ... or if you want to avoid confusion by others, maybe "New Bigfish" might work too. Either way, welcome aboard. Come for the football, stay for the jibba jabba (and pie ... and meatloaf ... and maps, such as ... with beer).

I get humour. And people like me.

Posted by: not barno / January 23, 2008

Yesterday, I mentioned Danny had hit the expiration date on this decision and it would start smelling really bad, really quickly.

And darn it, it sure does seem to be stinking up the place.

I don't think Danny like the gray hair stripe that GG sports. Too Leno like. Fassel on the other hand has nice waivy brown hair, just like Vinny's! 8-D

Tom Friend (ESPN) has reportedly posted stuff to the extremeskins board:

Okay, now that it's all coming out, I can tell you what I know.
Jim Zorn has emerged as the leading candidate to be Offensive Coordinator, ahead of John Ramsdell (Chargers QB coach) and Mike Shula (Jags QB coach).
Rex Ryan is a contract negotiation away from being D-Coordinator, and I'm assuming they'll outbid the Ravens for him.
The heirarchy wants to keep Byner, Bugel and Blache from the previous staff. All others are probably gone.
Snyder simply does not trust or mesh with Gregg Williams, and the debacle of '06 is what started that. The heirarchy felt Williams was arrogant, stubborn and not forthright that year, and another red flag was his horrible relationship with Ralph Wilson in Buffalo. It was too much for Williams to overcome. Just wasn't a good fit here.
------------------------------------
Since I posted, I hear it's mayhem again.
Snyder's interviewing Zorn without Fassel! Shouldn't your next coach be there?
Fassel is in Phoenix and knows nothing yet.
Rex Ryan also knows nothing yet.
They're leaving everyone hanging, and ships might sail, including Rex Ryan's. Snyder is apparently holding all this up. Does he go back to Williams? For the moment, it's in limbo again. For the moment.
----------------------------------

I have no way of knowing but people there vouch for this being him and reliable

Posted by: Burgundy | January 23, 2008 04:11 PM

Burgundy, do you have a link for that post? Just wondering..

Breaking

At a news conference today, Redskins owner Danny Snider both hired and fired Jim Fassel as coach of the Washington Redskins. He then resigned as owner, appointed Vinny Cerrato as the new owner, and took over the coaching reins saying, "how hard can it be. You just throw it around a little bit, run it, and hit people. It's football folks and I know football."

Later, new Head Coach - Pie, Danny Snider, was seen wolfing down an entire bacon cheeseburger pie.

Posted by: sheidt99 | January 23, 2008 04:06 PM

Hurrah for satire!! And the funniest thing is that it reflects the post by Burgundy just above it. Well done sheidt!

No decent coach in his right mind would want to be the head coach of the Redskins except for one reason... money. And that's exactly what you don't want, someone looking for a big pay day. So, Grilliams probably said in his last interview "hey Napoleon, shell out the cash or I'm out of here because no coach would work for you and Beavis unless they were getting paid a lot to be quiet". I would be amazed to see Williams back here next year. I hope I'm wrong.

I had a bunch of issues with the 2007 Skins coaches and players. But the 2007 Skins were successful. Could Al Saunders done better with Campbell? Yes. Why did Santana Moss wait 10 games before showing up? Can't say for sure. Did Gibbs mismanage some games? Sure did.

But did this team play hard, play with pride and win some tough games against good teams? YESSSSS!!!!! Did they get to the playoffs? YESSSSSS!!!!! Did they improve, despite so many things going wrong during the season? YESSSSSS!!!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 23, 2008 04:04 PM

But "improved... during the season" is just another way of saying "weren't ready for the start of the season" and "never got it together until a major external event that won't be repeated next year." And those are coaching issues.

This team didn't (and doesn't) have the talent to win a Superbowl, but what we saw this season was that under a normal NFL season, it also didn't have the leadership to even make a reasonable try at getting there.

So why NOT blow it up? You're not gonna kill the best player on the team next fall just to get everyone to pay attention and execute the playbooks. And that's what it took in 2007.

(And for pie? Apple, all the way. Squeeze a whole lot of that lemon juice that comes in a plastic lemon on the apples before you put them in the crust.)

I get humour. And people like me.

Posted by: not barno / January 23, 2008

Posted by: notguy | January 23, 2008 04:15 PM

Is notguy Redcoat? Check the spelling of humour.

Synder interviewing Zorn truly highlights the pathetic state of this team. I thought the Head Coach normally picked his own staff. What is going on here?

This whole coaching search is like a Police Academy movie.

I love notguy. I must say that I LMGO every time I read a post by him. Just great.

Being a die hard Skins fan has been extremely tough ever since Dan Snyder took over the team. It seems as though every year we make the playoffs or have a good season, the following year instead of building on the previous year, we completely revamp the team and/or coaching staff. We are without a doubt the laughing stock of the league when it comes to the front office. Philly, NYG, and Dallas have nothing to worry about because we are not operating like a professional football team. After the 1999 playoff season, we revamped the whole team with the signing of multiple "big name" veterans, which didn't work. In 2001, after coming back from an 0-5 start and finishing 8-8 with seemingly no big names on the team, we fired the Marty and revamped the coaching staff with the hiring of the biggest joke of em all, Steve Spurrier. In 2005, after a playoff berth, we completely revamp our offense after Cooley, Moss, Brunell, and Portis had record breaking years. Now here it is 2008, after a 2007 playoff berth and the resignation of Joe Gibbs, we are looking at revamping the complete team again, which is absolutely MIND BOGGLING!! I cannot believe Gregg Williams isn't named head coach yet.

Is notguy Redcoat? Check the spelling of humour.

Posted by: sams3 | January 23, 2008 04:23 PM

Someone asked that before. It's not me sams,although there are times when I wish it were!

I bet Vinny calls mayberry for bean pies, and Danny watches him eat them, mouth watering and all! That will make you sick, kinda like this hiring a coach process! Please not Fassil!!!! :(

WTEM reporting that Jim Fassel will be announced as the new head coach on Thursday.

Greg, I'll second the motion on the apple crisp but only with Breyer's Vanilla. Just like bacon, desserts are better with ice cream.

ESPN just reported it is a done deal. It is Fassel with Zorn as OC. No word on the fate of Williams.

If I was Cambpell I'd play out my contract and get the hell out of D.C. It's as if the owner doesn't even take into consideration the fact that Cambpell needs stability for the first time in his career. I know players need to adjust to any situation, but come on, the offense was stellar when it was run by somebody who was familiar with it. By his third year in it, I think Campbell would of flourished. He took major steps in it this year when the receivers weren't dropping passes. Now a whole new system? I'm not joking when I say this...I think Snyder has went off the deep end when Gibbs retired. There is no explanation for interviewing a new coach and possibly ruining what was the most consistent part of this team: The Defense. Whether rumors or not, I'm disgusted with this charade.

why is espn radio reporting that fassell was hired for the job. cant find it anywhere else

was it reported on the radio? nothing on the internet yet. anybody validate it?

No info on ESPN.com, usually up there first before radio!

another premature evacuation of information apparently...

Suz, actually meant they improved over prior seasons ... but they had injuries and other major stuff during this past season.

But the point is that this is a team going in a better direction then they have in any time in Snyder's entire tenure. You can dismiss getting to the playoffs, but those trips have been pretty rare. And this was a competitive team against every other team (save the Pats). With the 2nd toughest schedule in the entire NFL.

If you blow it up, is Jim Fassel sound like the guy who you want to rebuild it?

Thanks, Sween