Well at least it's a new subject.

Second?

3th

WTEM confirms through its 'sources' that Marriucci is in the running......

The situation is looking Meeks...

West Coast offense. Ugh. Got a bad feeling this might be Old Ball Coach part II.

4!!! That should be about the number of draft pics Ceratto blows on some overrated, unachieving chump player. His drafting is a DISASTER...going back to Druckenmiller w/San Fran.

As long as Cerrato is the Hobbit's right hand chimpanzeee, the Skins are destined for mediocrity.

Has anyone determined how Fassel feels about all this? Last week the Post quoted "sources close to Fassel" as saying that he "felt manipulated." Manipulated? By Dan Snyder? That's impossible! [When you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.]

If he felt manipulated last week, how does he feel this week?

ooooh ahhhhh .... people I know nothing about. But since its Dan and Vinny, I feel obliged to criticize it.

So here goes. Are they kidding me? These guys. How many Madden '08 titles have they won? I mean, if danny boy believes in him, then he must be a suck-up who'll keep his job the longer he sucks ... and I mean that in every single way it can be taken...

and .... well. actually, I got nothin'

So, Mooch worked with Cerrato in SF. Cerrato looks like James Woods in sunglasses. Woods was in Casino with Robert DeNero, who was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon...got it?

This is what Brian Mitchell has to say:

PHOENIX -- Before appearing on the John Thompson Show earlier this afternoon, I chatted with former Redskins player Brian Mitchell about the prospect of Jim Fassel being Washington's next coach. Mitchell is in Arizona for a week's worth of broadcasts from the Super Bowl.

You'll read Mitchell's take on Fassel in tomorrow's paper. You'll read Mitchell's opinion of front office chief/grand poo-bah/Snyder right hand Vinny Cerrato right now.

"A lot of people are still laughing [at Snyder] because of the Vinny Cerrato promotion and the way they're doing things. ... When you look at Al Davis, you see a lot of the things Dan does and along those same lines. I think Dan is willing to spend money and he's not stupid or else he wouldn't be successful.

"Somehow Vinny got his ear and Dan has to force himself to listen to somebody else in fooball for a minute and he'll find out he's not listening to the right guy. ... All these people [around the NFL] have the same mindset of this one guy. If you look at Vinny in Washington, what the [heck] has he done? Don't tell me he took the team to the playoffs this year. That was on Joe Gibbs and the defense a bunch of players who fought."

Posted on January 28, 2008 4:31 PM

I was thinking it could be posible that some of these "leading candidates" I don't know maybe their agents are leaking that out just to get their names really going who knows...But At this point I have decided that out of everyone I was the Mooch!

Hmm . . . will the new coach get to pick any of his assistants?

Bringing together a staff from various places around the league who are all current active coaches and have some working knowledge of one another, (Mooch and fassel) have stayed current because they cover the league and are both not to far removed from thier last gigs, shortens the curve on the staff getting thier coaching mojo on and may help us evalutate talent (Hopefully cheap up and comming) from all around the league....that was a disadvantage for gibbs and his band of merry men, most had been away along time and took the 1st year to adjust....just trying to be positive.....

zap123--

The word from people like George Michaels is that his drafting is pretty good. They say that if he'd been given more leeway, that the Redskins would be better today. He wanted Shawne Merriman when Gregg Williams picked Carlos Rogers.

Now, I don't know. The Redskins are so opaque that it's hard to know what he picked and what was imposed on him by the HC or the coordinators. But you seem to have a strong opinion, so undoubtedly you can tell me where he screwed up.

Would you please tell me which picks Cerrato is responsible for that make you so down on him? Did he find Cooley? MacIntosh? Blades? Heyer?

I am a lifelong 'Skins fan and a season ticket holder.
However, after years of mediocrity, I find myself thinking: "What other ways could I find to spend $1800 a year?"...

By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jan 28, 8:04 AM ET

TOKYO - Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page said Monday he was ready to take the iconic band on a world tour after burning up the stage at last month's reunion concert in London. But it probably won't be before September.

I think we're going to hear the name George Seifert before this thing is over.

I cant even imagine working in an organization like the Skins, with so much polotics and backstabbing ect, ect

Snyder is really the 2nd coming of Nixon

just trying to be positive.....

Posted by: Oldschool | January 28, 2008 05:09 PM

Positive? On RI? You'll pay for that.

I wonder if there is any way that the Mighty Midget could be forced to sell the team. COntact the NFL? Raise money as fans and buy it from him? It's painful and embarassing. Detroit is starting to look like a well run organization compared to the Redskins.

Hmm . . . will the new coach get to pick any of his assistants?

Posted by: HokiePaul | January 28, 2008 05:09 PM

He may be picking all of them. That's what makes it exciting.

Dan Snyder is too successful a business man to be as chaotic as this process appears. There are sure to be details that have escaped public notice that would temper all of this.

Add to it the fact that the media and even the DC fans LOVE to beat Dan Snyder like a dusty old carpet. When the details could be interpreted two ways, nobody ever reads them in his favor.

This was Gibbs team for four years. So who's to say what Vinny will do, or what any of them have learned in four years.

We'll find out. Until we do, I'm prepared to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt on the convoluted order in which these announcements come out, and on the personnel he chooses to handle the various jobs. God knows he wants to win. He may be wrong about their abilities, but I don't see him putting someone in a position of power unless he thinks it amounts to wins.

For the record, I think Mooch would be a great hire.

jvwright--

What!? Two positive posters on the same thread. I like your spirit and I endorse what you say. Now get ready to take your medicine.

>>> "Snyder is really the 2nd coming of Nixon"

Hmmm, the dudes in the Maison Blanc right now could be in the running for that title...

Mariucci would be a good choice. He's a perfect figurehead, loves to talk, and loves to hear himself talk. Blache is a stellar defensive coordinator, and Jim Zorn really deserves this chance (and we fans ought to be happy for a guy who paid his dues as a player in the expansion outpost of Seattle and who has had a great opportunity to learn the WCO from a coach like Holmgren). I find it incomprehensible that people would criticize the selection of those two coaches.

Now, as for how "Mr." Snyder has completely botched this process...that well and truly warrants criticism from all angles.

Snyder has a plan. Its called money. Find the people that suck up to you and then buy them.

Trouble with those type of plans is they usually don't work out. Not everyone can be bought easily. Sometimes you want to buy a person (anyone think Zorn was not bought?) and don't even know if he'll fit in with the other kids after they get bought.

When Gibbs quit, I sagely posed the question. Which role did Gibbs give up that was more important, president or coach? Given the fiasco, Gibbs was clearly more valuable as team president than as coach.

Yes, lets give Syder the benefit of the doubt..He has certanly earned it...What the HELL? The guys been responsible for all this upheaval since he took over save for Gibbs...

I don't think Vinny has a lifetime contract....snyder has elevated him to a high visability position, he is in fact our GM.... its his responsibilty, now dan is still involved in big way but vinny is in charge of all the raw material to assemble the product, Dan's input is I like this shinny piece vs that and i am willing to pay x for this shiny part...if the pieces don't fit it will be off with vinny's head, my guess is because he never has had this much authority no outsider can really tell what have been Vinny's recomendations vs coaches vs dan's....Now everything is Vinny....he can't hide behind a consensus with his owner and a hall of fame coach, when he goes to dan now with pick or FA or trade he owns it....that will either be his confirmation or his demise.....let it play out....if Vinny is no good he will be gone in due time....I mean dan changes managers and coaches like underwear.....

I mean dan changes managers and coaches like underwear.....

Posted by: Oldschool | January 28, 2008 05:31 PM

That makes me feel good.

OK boys and girls. What follows is the wisest thing you'll ever see on this blog (damning with faint praise?) So remember it and use it. It'll come in handy throughout the rest of your lives. Here it is:

BAD MANAGEMENT CAN SCREW UP ANYTHING

thank you for paying attention

I mean dan changes managers and coaches like underwear.....

Posted by: Oldschool | January 28, 2008 05:31 PM

Yeah, but its what he does to the underwear before he changes thats the problem. Which means he won't be interviewing any of the A-list boxers or briefs

Sorry PDiddy,

Not sure who or what Maison Blanc is but if he (they are like the Danny, then mediocrity awaits...

Am I allowed to ice the kicker two times in a row? Is it really worth risking seven points when we could have these easy three? If I keep working under Matt Millen, will I EVER get a job as a coach again?

http://www.nflfans.com/bears/images/articles/0007IR.jpg

zesty,

man we get it, is anyone not feelin you? Get a new tune. Do you prefer east coast, west or rocky mountain oysters?

chris LARRY

I mean dan changes managers and coaches like underwear.....

Posted by: Oldschool | January 28, 2008 05:31 PM

Just wish there weren't so many skid marks every time he does....

MOOOCH

Per wikipedia, Larry Brooks made a cameo appearance as a substitute teacher in the ABC sitcom "Welcome Back Kotter".

What's not to like about this guy?

Is it really necessary to hire a head coach at this point? Why not just let the coordinators call their own time outs, and the O-coordinator decide when to go for on on 4th down vs. when to turn it over to the special teams coach? What else do you need a head coach to do (other than to create a "tree")? Choose uniforms?

Not everyone can be bought easily.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2008 05:29 PM

Ha. Dan Snyder could buy Saint Mother Theresa to be coach if (1) he wanted her and (2) she were still alive. But, it's true that it wouldn't be easy.

BONG!

Maison Blanc, French for White House.

snyder runs his football team just like he runs his corporations...

when are they gonna update the tracker...

man i wanted continuity and williams...with williams out of the loop we need to forget about it and move on...though this is not my preference...some of this is starting to make sense can could be a positive direction...at least we have some continuity on defense so far...

not synders process though...thats bass ackwards...

Okay, I'm not up on this Internets fad that all the kids keep talking about, but what is the significance of the "Bong!" thing?

The current denizens of La Maison Blanc are far, far worse than Nixon ever was.

Yeah, I definitely like the idea of Mooch more than Fassel.

You know what Jasno's done here, for the next week everyone's hopes are going to get built up that Mariucci will be our HC (a la Williams), then Fassel will get named, and the outrage we saw when he was first mentioned will be re-lived.

It'll be good for the blog count though!

JLa is making a strong case for Mooch... I wonder if we are going that direction. It would not break my heart. Anyone other than Williams I have a wait and see approach with. Mooch is the kind of guy that can shuck and jive with the likes of Tomkat and Saruman the Grey... so I suspect that there is much merit there. I am afraid that Fassel would come up small in that category. My thinking is though, that after the fiasco in Millen's Detroit world that he would learn his lesson about getting into a scenario where a crappy personnel man is giving him his horses... Cerrato = Millen.

For those of you who think that the new offensive coordinators etc are going to change the fortunes of this team I have some sobering facts for you. The West Coast Offense has been around and in Washington for a long time. It requires receivers to run precise patterns and the quarterback to read progressions quick and to pass on a strict timing count. This is what Collins did very well under Suanders' system. This is NOT what Campbell did well. Our offensive line really sucked last year. If Jansen comes back he is coming back from a broken leg and I do not like his his chances of being 100%. Clinton Portis also gets himself tuned up for about 1/2 of a season. He spent the first half of last season getting in game shape and learning to run behind his blockers again (his 3.9 avg per carry is not that impressive). So to sum up the dirt, our offensive line is below par, our qb has not mastered a timing pattern offense and our main running back has had his best years. I see no reason to be optimistic about next season's offense at this point.

If we hire a new Coach who has no attachment to the offense or defensive coaches I would love for them to have a mic on him when it is third and one and we call a reverse that is stopped for no gain. I can see his face turning red and saying what in the heck am I doing here. I hope this doesnt happen but it could. (assuming coach would have called another play)

So we may wind up with Pooch and Mooch.
Yo!

Is it really necessary to hire a head coach at this point? Why not just let the coordinators call their own time outs, and the O-coordinator decide when to go for on on 4th down vs. when to turn it over to the special teams coach? What else do you need a head coach to do (other than to create a "tree")? Choose uniforms?

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2008 05:52 PM

This head coach position is fashioned to be nothing more than a disposable napkin.
When things go bad the new coach can be jettisoned without hurting the "continuity" of the system now installed. Pretty neat corporate position for Danny to fill to deflect future fan anger isn't it?

None of us is as dumb as all of us.

When Gibbs quit, I sagely posed the question. Which role did Gibbs give up that was more important, president or coach? Given the fiasco, Gibbs was clearly more valuable as team president than as coach.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2008 05:29 PM

This is interesting...I have seen this theme over and over again the last few weeks. When Gibbs was here..everyone said he was a good coach but not good talent evaluator and should not be presdient...NOW people are posting that he was agood at being the President...so whcih is it that all of you actually beleive?

Is it really necessary to hire a head coach at this point? Why not just let the coordinators call their own time outs, and the O-coordinator decide when to go for on on 4th down vs. when to turn it over to the special teams coach? What else do you need a head coach to do (other than to create a "tree")? Choose uniforms?

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2008 05:52 PM

This head coach position is fashioned to be nothing more than a disposable napkin.
When things go bad the new coach can be jettisoned without hurting the "continuity" of the system now installed. Pretty neat corporate position for Danny to fill to deflect future fan anger isn't it?

Posted by: driley | January 28, 2008 06:13 PM

Thjis does not even deserve a response...Are you freakin kidding me?

O love how most posters FIND something to bash Dan about...It happens with every new bit of info that is put in artiles on here...and yesterdays faults are forgotten..I think everyone is stoned!

Actually, I thought the general sentiment was that as a coach AND talent evaluator, St. Joe was behind the times and should go. I only joined the chorus briefly after the Buffalo game, but thought St. Joe had clearly redeemed himself with that Vikings game.

No matter.

This franchise is clueless, and will be for quite some time. Just sit back and root for the uniform. I can't quit the burgundy and gold, no matter how hard I try.

All I have to say is when you let a really good egg fart, you know how proud you are? The fact that everyone loves their own brand should not shock anyone. In fact, it is the secret to Dan Snyders success. He is the guy that blasts one under the covers, traps it down with his arms and waits for his wife to come to bed and as she pulls up the covers, gets blasted with the force of a nasty gargamel egg fart. To which danny snickers for hours with complete lack of self control and he lets one fly again without the benefit of surprise and because he is laughing, he loses the SBD approach and it makes a very airy loose sound and his wife simply replies "gross"... but his kids are hiding outside the door, wondering why Danny is laughing so hard and they each start pulling each others fingers. And when Snyder finds his kids passing gas without respect of sound or smell, he asks them in a stern face "where did you learn that???" and his boy, crying, says " I learned it from you dad... I learned it from you!!!" To which Dan calls Cerrato and cries and asks him what to do, to which Cerrato responds "Hey, kids are kids... at least they are smoking dope!!"

leevi98,

Just how much power is the new coach going to have? Ability to choose personell that he works with everyday? Nope. The defensive and offensive coordinators are set and most of the assistant coaches are settling now, before the head coach is hired. So if things go bad next year, who's neck will get stretched first? Vinny's? Guess again. The coordinators?
Not likely unless there is a total blow up of the entire organizational chart. Head coach=the easy choice.

Peter King's take:

4. I think I'm going to withhold judgment on Dan Snyder's, um, shall we say, curious approach to naming a new coach until I see what he does with the head coach. But unless he chooses a head coach who has signed off on the two coordinators signed by Snyder the other day -- Jim Zorn on offense (like him an awful lot) and Greg Blache on defense -- it's not going to be just me who has a field day with Snyder. It'll be everyone who has ever watched this game. Who picks both coordinators, then chooses a total stranger to them to be a head coach?

Pete Carroll met with Snyder. ugh! will Elvis be interviewing for the job also!?!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3219126

Slightly off-topic. Any predictions for the HOF. I think Darrell Green's a shoe in. Gary Zimmerman should be. I hope Monk makes it obviously. Will be seriously annoyed if Chris Carter makes it ahead of him. At least Carter was decent enough to say he'd pick Monk and Green to go in when he was asked on the Mike Tirico radio show. Carter's got a lot of stats (like Monk), he doesn't have any SB rings (unlike Monk). Don't recall many career defining moments for Carter - an oft-spoken criticism of Monk by his detractors. I may be wrong but I'm too lazy and Monk-biased to bother looking it up.

I can see this is digressing into delirium because we have no good "new" news and we are having to speculate on top of speculations. Bottom line is, I am jonesing for a little bit of real news and a little less covert ops by Lord Helmet and Mr Roboto Cerrato. But can a leopard really change it's spots? I suspect the boredom I feel has led me to consider additional scenarios where Snyder asked Williams if he could toot on command and he said "WTF???" and Cerrato and Snyder gave each other that knowing look and told him he was gone... I think Fassel probably was a joiner and probably giggled with them just to stay in with the "in crowd". After all, what's a little egg gas amongst friends? Besides, in the case of Fassel, it beats the heck out of the unemployment line.

Dan Snyder is too successful a business man to be as chaotic as this process appears.

Posted by: jvwright | January 28, 2008 05:20 PM

"Well, it's no trick to make a lot of money... if what you want to do is make a lot of money."

- Citizen Kane

Do we need a human scrafice to stop this?

Jla Cindy where do you guys live.

Funny how last season Jerry Jones did the same thing and hired assitants first and nobody said anything except GREAT HIRES...when the Skins do the same thing...Peter Kings out there bash the Skins...SO it great for Dallas to do bad very bad for the Skins.....heard this record before

Humpty Dumpty was a big fat egg, fell from a wall and broke his leg.... which came first the chicken or the egg, I asked the chicken and then I ate his leg... sort of like hiring assistants before the HC... ah, but what do I know, I am but a skid mark in the pants of progress.

Funny how last season Jerry Jones did the same thing and hired assitants first and nobody said anything except GREAT HIRES...when the Skins do the same thing...Peter Kings out there bash the Skins...SO it great for Dallas to do bad very bad for the Skins.....heard this record before

Posted by: leevi98

Leevi98 stop it. There was lots of blow back.

leevi98,

It is a system that is very good for the owner if you are the type of owner like Snyder or Jones who has a huge ego. If the season goes well and you go 13-3 then the owner looks like a genius for picking the entire organizational chart of the business. However, if the record becomes 3-13 you have already built in a sacraficial lamb, the new coach. Do you at least see that?

So, Mooch worked with Cerrato in SF. Cerrato looks like James Woods in sunglasses. Woods was in Casino with Robert DeNero, who was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon...got it?

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2008 05:07 PM
___________________________________

Are you kidding?

Steve Mariucci was in "Arli$$" (1996) {Moments to Remember (#7.6)} with Sandra Oh

Sandra Oh was in 58th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards, The (2006) (TV) with Kevin Bacon

"Fun With Titles At Redskins Park"

If I join this club do I get a Little Orphan Annie secret decoder pin?

Maybe that's what Leprechaun Danny is using to choose his next HC. ;)

"Me wants me gold and you'll shoot yer eye out!"

- Ray

Meeks would be nuts to come here. He's a brother and works with brother #1 in Indy. Who do you think is in line when brother #1 shuts it down next year? Or he can come here, an work for The Man. And, btw, The Man has chosen all your Assts. And, The Man wants you to kiss his ass day + night. And, The Man runs down and outs with a Nerf ball after your practices. Meeks stays in Indy and he takes over for Tony D (a classy brother if there ever was one.)

i thought caldwell was in line to take over for dungy???

moooooooooooooooooooch!!!

JLC,

Do you realize how many branch are on the Bill Walsh tree?

More coaches in the NFL have Bill Walsh connections than don't.

...and it the Bill Walsh family not the Mooch Family!

this is a politics free zone -- keep your snide political remarks to yourself no matter what your orientation --- please

Hooka!